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Virtual-U (SimUniversity) Now Available

Ben Sawyer writes "The Alfred P. Sloan Foundation's Virtual U project recently shipped a new version our university simulator. This software simulation game, available at www.virtual-u.org lets you play as president of a U.S. university. You choose how faculty spend time, allocate funds, and decide if you should give special admission to athletes. Version 2.0 improves the model, and adds new features. The product is supported through a grant by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. The product runs on Windows 2000/XP/9X/ME. The software is being used by a number of university education programs, and is part of an overall project to improve thinking about how universities are managed." No word on if virtual-u features a "BSA attack" scenario.

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  1. Posted already? by CmdrTaco+(editor) · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I believe an article was posted on this a few months back, but it seems to be there have been a few updates.

    I think this software might actually be fun to play, plus as an added bonus, it might give some insight into the "bureacracy" and "red tape" that are experienced in so many large institutions. Making decisions that will effect thousands of people is never easy, and a redundant system of checks is needed to prevent disaster.

    1. Re:Posted already? by Ben+Sawyer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hi,

      I don't think anything was posted given that I'm involved with the project and do the postings and grassroots reachout.

      We've been around for a while but until 2.0 was complete we hadn't done a ton of aggressive posting about the project. I did submit a note about a paper on public policy games of which Virtual U was mentioned but that was a general discussion of games in general not Virtual U specifically. Perhaps someone else might have posted something about it? In any case the only other thing I would submit is when the source becomes available later next month...

      Ben Sawyer

  2. To make it truly realistic... by jcsehak · · Score: 5, Funny


    ... I'm going to skip it.

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    1. Re:To make it truly realistic... by DenOfEarth · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...or sleep through most of it

    2. Re:To make it truly realistic... by 56ker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Does it also include :
      students and staffers going on strike?
      the IT project coming in over budget?
      the completed exam papers being dumped in a river by the Post Office?
      Thought it wasn't as realistic as that!

  3. My choices as president by Ayatollah · · Score: 4, Funny

    Naturally, tuition goes up every year no matter what. I will also enfore the no-reusing-of-textbooks policy set by my forefathers. Lastly, I will work harder to admit more students who only want to party. They know they're buying the degree, not the education, so let's have a wet t-shirt contest instead of a group study. Pass the beer bong, dude!

  4. The criterion for determining how good a game is.. by Neologic · · Score: 5, Funny
    I always determined how good a game is by asking the question, "Would I skip class to play this?".
    Can't see that happening with this- would you skip class to play at going to class?

    From the website: Virtual U is a caricature of real academic life grounded in authentic conceptual structures and data.
    Silly me, I always thought academic life was a caricature of reality already, how could they caricaturize it further?

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  5. Holy Cow by martissimo · · Score: 2

    the site gets posted on /. so i naturally figure i better download the game and try it before i comment.

    and i get 227 KB/s from their server while it's the top story at /.

    impressive, well either that or the game sucks so bad that nobody is even bothering to grab the file

  6. Virtual Sim - U scenarios? by Navius+Eurisko · · Score: 5, Funny

    Any good sim game has to have scenarios you can play where an impending crisis looms before you. Here are my thoughts on some possible scenarios:

    - Your campus' Athletic fraternity have lost their frat house to a natural distaster. They, in turn, kick the nerd fraternity out of their house. Do you let the Athletes stay in the house or help the nerds get on the Greek council?

    - The RIAA is threatening to sue your university over student mp3 servers running on network. Do you rebuff the RIAA or crack down on the warez sites?

    - Students have petitioned administration to switch the student computer labs over to linux, saving thousands. The Evil company providing your university with their OS, has bound you with restrictive licences. Do you ignore the students or try and find a way around the licences?

  7. Politcal Sims by bildstorm · · Score: 2

    I love these kinds of games, since they're very much geared towards learning.

    Am I mistaken in thinking that these guys helped fund Reinventing America (I and II)? That was a really cool idea which I'd like to see brought back.

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  8. BSA == world domination? by ryman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Speaking of the BSA: Did anyone else notice the graphic on the BSA's website of a copyright symbol superimposed over the earth? Maybe I'm just paranoid....

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  9. Actually by gatesh8r · · Score: 3, Interesting
    With The Sims, various Housing and Urban Development groups have been using this to simulate ideal conditions for people to live in since there has been a great deal of research done with the game to provide a more realistic situation with various designs.


    It may seem to be a game these simulations, but in simulations it allows for a faster delivery of results statistically and realistically. Most of the time these simulations are money well spent. It doesn't mean that some stat geek isn't going to have some fun and poke around with things as we may do to have fun. You just can't do some things with certain senarios due to time and money.

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  10. Don't bother by tfreport · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Downloaded and played it. The game would definitely benefit from either a tutorial or at the very least more active help features at the beginning. The interface is such that you are lost trying to figure things out. I wasted a half hour before realizing that I was getting nothing out of it and was figuring very little out. Seems like a great idea, I just need some sort of documentation to better understand what I am doing right and wrong.

    1. Re:Don't bother by martissimo · · Score: 5, Informative

      The game would definitely benefit from either a tutorial

      hmm something like this (241 KB PDF) ,or maybe this (22 MB zip file)

      lots of info listed right below the click here to download link ;)

  11. How realistic... by zubernerd · · Score: 4, Funny
    can such a program be made to be... Let's see, it should simulate:

    (1) Backstabbing and in-fighting among the professors. Let's face it, not all profs are looking out of the best interest of the students. Some just want to do their research and not be bothered by such pesky details such as students who want to learn. At the Univ. I'm at, the chair of the deptartment I'm in is about to retire; in other words, there is blood in the water, and there is going to be a ego/pissing contest to get that seat.

    (2) A lazy student gov't Let's face it, what is the job of student gov't? To serve themselves and get laid, what else! Really, the student gov't where I'm at is corrupt and has done nothing for the students. However, I hear their desks are used for more than writing papers...

    (3) 'Loopy' Deans Overheard to between a dean and a prof: Dean "You need to get the enrollment up in your program before we can fund it anymore" Prof: "You need to fund us, since we are near broke and need money for facilities and staff to get studnets in the program" Dean: "You need to enroll more students to get more money" (Now, think endless loop...)

    (4) 6 Chancaller, 10 year... We go through head hanchos like toilet paper, each with their own 'texture'... Really though, there seems to be little direction from the top.

    Ok, really, this is a cool game; I just hope it can help teach the next generation to run a university (and NOT run it into the ground)

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    1. Re:How realistic... by emag · · Score: 2

      (1) Backstabbing and in-fighting among the professors. Let's face it, not all profs are looking out of the best interest of the students. Some just want to do their research and not be bothered by such pesky details such as students who want to learn. ...

      Don't forget the reverse is also true. I remember a professor at the university I was at who was let go precisely because he spent so much time with the students, helping them to learn, and not nearly enough time publishing papers. There was even a petition signed by a few hundred students, to no avail. Last I heard, he'd gotten a better-paying job at a lab in the area.

      (2) A lazy student gov't Let's face it, what is the job of student gov't? To serve themselves and get laid, what else! Really, the student gov't where I'm at is corrupt and has done nothing for the students. However, I hear their desks are used for more than writing papers...

      Damn, I must've missed that action when I was in the SGA. I was part of a group that actually got pissed off with the then-current, frat-run SGA. We organized online, initially via the general discussion newsgroup, then through a nice majordomo list (it helped that we were almost all CS and/or IS students initially). We ran a unified campaign for both the "executive" and "legislative" sides ("judicial" was appointed by the administration).

      We took the legislative, but certain large special interests on-campus managed to secure the presidency. One half of the student government was arguably corrupt, but it wasn't the side I was in. Not that we were able to do anything about it, even though we worked our asses off, even working through the summer before the new year started. We managed to rewrite most of the policies and governing documents, since no one had bothered to keep track of such pesky things as amendments, the passed/failed legislation, etc.

      I'd like to think that we made a difference, but being brutally honest, we didn't accomplish much. I went back a few years later, and basically everything we'd done had been reversed. Then, because of a certain amount of...financial improprieties...allegedly perpetrated by some people on the exec side, what little influence the student government had was eventually crushed by the university administration. Nowadays, I don't even recognize the new organization at all.

      But that year and a half was one of the best times I'd ever had. There were 4 of us living together on-campus, all who'd gotten involved. We became the de facto campaign headquarters, and throughout the year we actually served, still managed to have most of the senate over regularly, and at all hours. Ah, the sleepless nights...tripping over campaign materials...having a half dozen people sleeping on the floor...

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  12. Any porting projects? by PeterClark · · Score: 3

    I skimmed the license agreement, and it looks like (at first glance) a BSD-advertisement license. In any case, the source is available, so (naturally) I am wondering if there are any attempts to port it to Linux/*BSD. Or does it use DirectX? I guess DirectX wouldn't preclude porting, just make it more difficult. Thoughts?

    :Peter

    1. Re:Any porting projects? by Spoing · · Score: 2
      Here's what the FAQ says;
      1. What is the public source version of Virtual U?

        The public source version of Virtual U is now available and provides access to the very source code and source elements (i.e. graphics, sound, etc.) that comprise the actual Virtual U program. This source code is available for free for non-commercial purposes. Licensing of the source code will be made available to commercial interests (be they commercialized interests on behalf of public/private institutions, or industrial entities). All interested licensees of the source code can contact Ben Sawyer at bsawyer@virtual-u.org for more information.

        ...

        Why isn't there a Macintosh version of Virtual U?

        Our development team was skilled with Windows programming and thus Virtual U was originally developed for Microsoft Windows. Due to some of the proprietary graphics features and programming used to create Virtual U's unique graphical interface, it wasn't possible during the development of the first version to do a Macintosh version of the software. However, hope to eventually port Virtual U to the Macintosh. We are actively looking for volunteers who wish to port the core simulation kernal to the Macintosh and create a graphical interface suitable to the Macintosh. If you are interested in working with us on this, please contact Ben Sawyer at bsawyer@virtual-u.org.

        Why doesn't Virtual U run on Windows NT?

        In order to display its graphics, Virtual U uses a special graphical programming API (application programming interface) known as DirectX. Windows NT is only compatible with DirectX 3.0 while Virtual U requires DirectX 6.1 or higher. Because Microsoft never updated DirectX for the NT platform, Virtual U doesn't work with Windows NT. Windows 2000, the upgrade to Windows NT, supports DirectX 7 and higher and thus is compatible with Virtual U.

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  13. Re:Just waiting for the download . . . by rosewood · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    Wichita State University ( www.wichita.edu ) is INFAMOUS for this. WSU has a VERY high arab student population. In fact, most of those news stories you heard about student visas included profiling our school. One of first WTC bombing guys had an expired WSU student Visa (never came to WSU, just got accepted and the visa to get in the US). Rumor has it that one of the 9/11 pilots did the same, however that is un-confirmed. That, however is beside the point. The point is that a heavy minority of the student population does not speak native english, and ESL (English as a Second Language - which I do TA for Spanish -> English) is not flying. Example:

    I started out as a CS major. First college class: Calc I. I had looked at calc stuff before, had a basic understanding - but was ready to learn. My teacher was a jack-ass who normally only taught grad-courses but taught calc once every 3 years "to stay fresh." Luckily, we have a "math-lab" (always sounds like meth-lab) for students. Problem: You can not understand the god damned tutor. I polietly asked him to repeate himself time and time again, and I still had no fucking clue. For the 6 weeks I was in Calc, before I dropped and changed majors, we had 3 subs - one russian, two arabs of some sort. I could not understand one fucking word that came out of their mouths. Reminder: I am a spanish major and I am pretty good at listening and picking things out. My boss at the time had a stroke and I could understand him.

    Anyways, simulate having such a small pool of elligable profesors to where you have to put people who can not "speaka da english" and then you have a winner. (I would not play it, but I would not play Sims and thats a best seller - who the fuck knows. I cant wait for the sim where you sim playing sims!)

  14. Re:Off Topic... by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2

    You, sir, have stumbled upon a key criterion. How many professors have published pedagogical materials within the last ten years that are still in use?

  15. Growing trends towards simulation by JohnBE · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I find the trend towards simulations of real life interesting. Does anyone else remember space simulations such as Elite? In a nutshell they were science fiction simulations. Isn't it odd that as computing power has increased more and more real life situations and systems are been simulated! Sim-this, Sim-that, Sim-U, Sim-Pets etc..

    I wonder if there'll be a Sim-Slasdot, where you have to manage revenue over costs and keep the mods in line ;-).

    So you increase your computing power and instead of simulating unreality, you simulate existing reality (albeit someone elses), there has got to be something backward.

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  16. you know by nomadic · · Score: 3, Funny

    I bet if I played this it would end up like all the sim kinds of games I play.

    An angry populace, a police station on every corner, 0% spent on social programs, and me hiding in my mansion.

    Kind of strange how it always ends up like that...I mean, I don't INTEND on implementing libertarianism...

  17. Re:The Sims by Ben+Sawyer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No we don't let you switch to an open source IT infrastructure. As your point says, it's hard in a game to provide the same level of penultimate decision making that real-life allows.

    This can be dealt with in a few ways:

    1. Build a framework that lets you add over time ever more detail and realism

    2. Build a game where many areas are conceptual and abstract so that people can explore core issues and imagine the details that make up their more general decisions (i.e. fill in your own backstory as you cut the IT budget because you're moving to open source IT tools).

    3. Build some that has immense detail in it. (aka never finish.)

    With Virtual U we went with a bit of the first 2 ideas. Ideally overtime with support we hope to continue progressing things toward ideas like more detail to the IT decisions given feedback and such however the original goal is to focus on the big issues and general decisions.

    One other issue with the IT stuff that is important is to understand what the real impact is. Is there detailed analysis available saying what switching to an open-source infrastructure does to a universities IT budget? Does it really work? While we've undoubtably put some bias in our product, as we go forward and begin to add more detail like this we're inevitably going to add more bias to the model.

    Also I think it can be safely assumed that in Virtual U some % of your overall IT budget is going to open source tools and infrastructure. It would be interesting to know what % of universities IT budgets are spent on such tools and services. Maybe the guys at Educause would know. I'll ask them.

    Ben Sawyer

  18. Re:Anyone else get problems? by Ben+Sawyer · · Score: 2, Informative

    This problem should have been solved... I'm checking on it. Run the Vu.exe from the root directory you installed it too and see if that solves it... it's a problem in a desktop shortcut that shouldn't be there. We might have some latent downloads still out there which weren't updated. I have my admin looking into it. Sorry. - Ben Sawyer

  19. Speaking of the BSA by ch-chuck · · Score: 2

    Was just enjoying a fantasy world where, everytime you run into a bug in commercial software you can get a court order and armed federal marshalls, raid the company, bust in their doors, install auditing software to track down and 'cuff the programmer responsible and demand they fix it or face $150,000 / day / bug fine.

    Then I woke up.

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  20. Re:The Sims by gilroy · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Blockquoth the poster:

    2. Build a game where many areas are conceptual and abstract so that people can explore core issues and imagine the details that make up their more general decisions (i.e. fill in your own backstory as you cut the IT budget because you're moving to open source IT tools).

    I haven't read the code, so I might be entirely wrong. But my guess is, cutting the IT budget would lead to lower available services and thus inefficiency and more student gripes. But that doesn't (necessarily) model the switch to Open Source. Open Source breaks the financial model of "higher price == better (more) service". In other words, just because you don't pay for the tools, doesn't mean the tools are garbage.



    On one level, you could abstract this by saying the IT budget reflects license costs and service costs. If we drive down the license costs, then we can spend more on services in the same budget. But actually the model doesn't work that way. There's simply no way that paying for Office licenses (and Windows licenses) is intrinsically equal to paying for more help desks. If we need to abstract this much, then a very useful sim capability -- test whether Open Source can work as well for less -- is not available.


    On the other hand, it's hard to see how you could code for that without simply incorporating your own personal bias towards Open Source (or against it) into the simulation. Is there hard data anywhere?

  21. Buggy by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 2
    I played this a bit under the "slash the budget scenario". Athletics was the first targeted, followed by cuts to administration budget, increase in IT and distance learning budgets, decrease in non-traditional students. Got accolades from state board and students. :)

    Game crashed when allocating budget for year 2, though. Blah. Kinda buggy.