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Virtual-U (SimUniversity) Now Available

Ben Sawyer writes "The Alfred P. Sloan Foundation's Virtual U project recently shipped a new version our university simulator. This software simulation game, available at www.virtual-u.org lets you play as president of a U.S. university. You choose how faculty spend time, allocate funds, and decide if you should give special admission to athletes. Version 2.0 improves the model, and adds new features. The product is supported through a grant by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. The product runs on Windows 2000/XP/9X/ME. The software is being used by a number of university education programs, and is part of an overall project to improve thinking about how universities are managed." No word on if virtual-u features a "BSA attack" scenario.

147 comments

  1. FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    eat it, bitchez

  2. Woo hoo! by AnimeFreak · · Score: 1, Redundant

    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/04/16/182723 4&mode=thread

    Now I can see if this works!

    Will it also have a party simulator so I can join-in? :)

    1. Re:Woo hoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      BAN ME!!!
      You so crazy anime freak, you are a legend, we are nothing. Pretty like a pony!

    2. Re:Woo hoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whoa whoa whoa... let's play name that quote. okay - who said this: "rarely is the question asked, is our children learning?" for 200 points.

      _
      WINDOWS USERS CLICK HERE!

    3. Re:Woo hoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      haha, that's ol' GW. geez, i'm a stud. aww yeah.

    4. Re:Woo hoo! by GutBomb · · Score: -1

      i am no dubya supporter, but he is misquoted there. he reall said "Rarely the question asked is: Are children learning?"

  3. Slashcode's HTML vs. Microsoft HTML by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Introduction

    Recently there has been some controversy over Slashdot's apparent disregard for browsers other than Konqueror or Netscape (*cough* IE *cough) ability to render the page, and some unfortunate crapfloods which would appear differently in different browsers.

    The "editors" (I use the term loosely) of Slashdot appear to believe that Slashcode generates perfect HTML which any browser should render correctly, else the browser must be "buggy".

    Slashcode's HTML Output

    Just curious, I tried running the front page of Slashdot through the W3 validator to test this claim. The results were shocking.

    Lets stick to the facts and drill down into the numbers. The W3 validator found HUNDREDS of errors on the very first page of Slashdot that you view every day. It terminated with the simple line Sorry, this document does not validate as HTML 3.2..

    So, what is broken? Is it IE? Or is it the amateur garage-style open source code which is at fault? You be the judge.

    Apparently, Slashcode follows the open source coding and testing ethic of "it worked for me". It's just too much to ask them to try to test their code for conformance and compliance, or even just try it on a variety of platforms.

    Microsoft's HTML Output

    Still curious, I tried running msn.com and microsoft.com through the validator. I was totally taken aback when the validator reported ZERO ERRORS in *either* of these pages.

    Conculsion

    1. It may benefit the coders to attempt to adapt to some kind of acceptable process for designing, writing, and testing their own code. Perhaps some professional experience would be beneficial here. Certainly an accountability for certain quality standards must be implemented.

    2. Perhaps Slashdot should consider switching to IIS 5.0 or .NET server and rewriting their code using a stable, reliable platform like Visual C++ or .NET. Perhaps only then will the browser compatbility issues will be resolved.

    These are just suggestions. I am here to help.

    1. Re:Slashcode's HTML vs. Microsoft HTML by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Same results for both sites trolls.

  4. hmm i wonder by SteelX · · Score: 1

    ...if they can simulate my idiotic dorm roommate who puked on the sofa, didn't clean it, and didn't tell anyone about it...

    1. Re:hmm i wonder by l810c · · Score: 1
      2 friends passed out and puked on my waterbed. When they rolled around is squished under the entire bed.

      It Was washable, but No fun.

    2. Re:hmm i wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      C'mon. Unless you have a story that involves a corpse, I have no sympathy.
      We used to joke about how if your roommate kills him/herself, you get an automatic A. Now that's a competitive attitude.

  5. Posted already? by CmdrTaco+(editor) · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I believe an article was posted on this a few months back, but it seems to be there have been a few updates.

    I think this software might actually be fun to play, plus as an added bonus, it might give some insight into the "bureacracy" and "red tape" that are experienced in so many large institutions. Making decisions that will effect thousands of people is never easy, and a redundant system of checks is needed to prevent disaster.

    1. Re:Posted already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Everyone please note: This is not the real CmdrTaco, notice the (editor) in his name? Its a fake account. Nice try.

      Your post linked in your signature is so retarded.

      I am a linux desktop user, and are many many many of my friends. They serve our purpose perfectly. We can play heaps of games, run a very pretty desktop and use a good word-processor.

      Linux on the desktop IS a viable solution, why would I go back to an inferior OS such as windows?

      You claim that I should try Mac? Why would I bother spending 3 times more on an equally fast PC that I can't upgrade or customize? Why would I want to goto a platform that has a limited amount of software? Why would I want to goto an inferior platform?

      You sir, are retarded.

    2. Re:Posted already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the imposter isn't the original author of the article. It first appeared at Zdnet, and was written by the editor-in-chief. So, I guess you're calling him retarded?

    3. Re:Posted already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Have you looked at ZDnet lately?

    4. Re:Posted already? by FreshPondPhil · · Score: -1, Troll

      Why don't you take your geek shit and stick it up your ass cocknocker. Better yet, meet me on Putnam and Fresh Pond so I can beat your ass. Make sure you don't scuff my Timberlands either. I just got thrown out of Miami Bar again and I have nothing better to do than show some pennyweight bonesmuggler who's boss on this street.

      Oh yeah, here's some crapflood material...

      Whips & Kisses
      Valentine's Day can be like a box of chocolates - cloying, stale, and predictable. Miranda St. Croix, PROPELLER's Counselor/Dominatrix In Residence, explains why.

      Lately I've been completely exhausted, finding it strenuous to even keep my eyes open, much less write. But since I'm a masochist, and my id can no longer be controlled, here goes.

      I've recently found myself pondering the month of February and with it, Valentine's Day. Now, I'm not going to go into the history of St. Valentine's Day and what it originally meant, even though by now we should all be aware that any holiday celebrated by the Western world, especially Americans, usually has Pagan roots. Valentine's Day (or, "VD" for the jaded) is no exception. It's based on a Pagan holiday celebrated by the Romans ever since Ovid had writer's block.

      (Now, all you Christians out there, don't get your knickers in a bunch. Our little history lesson is over. On to the present.)

      For me, Valentine's Day has always been a holiday of mixed emotions. When I didn't have a boyfriend, I felt it was just a profit-driven Hallmark holiday blown so out of proportion that men were going bankrupt buying trinkets to avoid hearing their girlfriends/wives/mistresses/boyfriends/whatevers rag on them until next February.

      Then there were the years that I had a boyfriend on Valentine's Day.

      Now how I felt about Valentine's Day during any given year depended on which boyfriend I had. If he was a high school sweetheart, I thought Valentine's Day was "mint", because as a teenager in the 80's in Staten Island, MOST things were "mint". Ah yes. Sweet memories of a sweet boyfriend from high school giving me a sweet gift. God knows, I couldn't name one of the Valentine's gifts I got back then, but I do remember being happy.

      Later on, there were also the somewhat more casual relationships where it was nice to go to dinner with someone, or get some flowers, a card, some chocolate or whatever. Go home, have sex, have a cigarette, get annoyed, get out. Still, life was simple. And good.

      Skip ahead to January 2002 (and cue the ominous music).

      After seven long years of losing myself as a person to an unbearable, unbelievably ignorant mignon who actually thinks Howard Stern is serious about everything he says, I managed to escape a hellish relationship. This has inspired the typical Mardi Gras-like festivities. However, I've realized that I had fallen into the dreaded "where's my ring?" mentality.

      Oh yes, you know what I'm talking about.

      I remember a conversation with my ex's sister at the beginning of our relationship where she said, about her latest casualty, "I'll never get a ring out of him."

      Actually, it was more like, "Ahh, Ah'll nevah getta rahng outta hemm", but I digress.

      I remember being so surprised and confused to hear those words outside the context of a movie stereotyping the attitude of the "typical" Noo Yawk girl. My response was "How about getting the ring because he wants you to have it, not because you think you earned it?" I can't describe the looks I got from the two of them but I might as well have been speaking Ubangi. And now here I am thinking, "Seven goddamned years and now I'm never getting that ring. Didn't I earn it?!"

      So yes, seven years is a long time to be in a relationship. And yes, not being in a relationship after seven years is a bit like having a divorce. It's a bit strange to not come home to him, but other than that bit of weirdness, I feel an overwhelming sense of relief. I can now have intelligent conversations with various people. I've learned that my friends love me for who I am, and don't attempt to stifle me because they're intimidated by my outspokenness. I'm starting to remember that I can be a lot of fun. And I can keep my place clean because I can pick things up when they fall down, or throw fast food containers away before they age into Dadaist masterpieces.

      I'm becoming me again.

      Most importantly, I'm starting to realize that Valentine's Day is a hell of a lot like that ring. They're meaningless tokens unless you're happy with who you're with, and more importantly, happy with yourself. So for those of you planning an engagement ring surprise on St. Valentine's Day, remember this, the Pagan gods don't really care, and neither should you.

      Yes, Miranda St. Croix is a real person, although that's not quite her real name. Yes, she's a real psychological counselor as well as a practicing dominatrix. This is Miranda's first piece for PROPELLER. It's gonna be an interesting year.

      --

      --Mad propz to the homies cruisin the CVS parking lot.
    5. Re:Posted already? by Melantha_Bacchae · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      An AC writes:

      > Linux on the desktop IS a viable solution,

      Having just bought myself a Zaurus, I have to say I am impressed with how well Linux has come along. I don't see any reason Linux can't succeed on the desktop, and it should succeed. We don't need one replacement for Windows; we need several with open standards so they can work together. It is high time people had some real choices. The type of work to be performed, personal preference, and available budget should dictate which OS or computer system is used, not some monopoly in Redmond who only cares about it's own ever growing appetite for money and power.

      > You claim that I should try Mac? Why would I bother spending 3 times
      > more on an equally fast PC

      I found it amusing that when Popular Science had a shoot out between Sony and Apple for best "digital hub" (http://www.popsci.com/popsci/computers/article/0, 12543,230272,00.html), they picked a Sony that was nearly twice the price of the top of the line iMac they reviewed. The Sony had more memory, and more hard drive space. It won by two points (out of 55 total: 42 to 40 -- and I would argue a few of their points). I guess one might as well go with the cheaper of the two -- the Apple. ;)

      > that I can't upgrade or customize?

      I have an iBook and two iMacs. They all have memory upgrades and Airport cards. I have more firewire drives and various USB and Firewire peripherals than you can shake a stick at. Upgrading is not much of an issue with them. If you have the money, the big G4 towers have a very nice latch that opens the case to let you do what you please inside (like PC's bought from major manufacturers, some of what you please may violate your warranty, but that's life). Even with the iMacs, I have yet to run into a situation where I said "Darn, I can't do that because I can't upgrade my iMac."

      > Why would I want to goto a platform that has a limited amount of
      > software?

      Limited?!? Mac OS X?!? You've got to be joking. Most Mac apps run under Classic. There's more OS X apps and games every day (hey, even Photoshop is out for OS X!). Most pure Java 2 apps run nicely. There are a few big porting project feverishly porting everything released for Linux or BSD under an Open Source license. Since Apple made their development tools free we have no shortage of developers. Check out VersionTracker.com to see what all is really out there.

      If that isn't enough software, go grab an emulator and run anything you want (including Windows if you must).

      > Why would I want to goto an inferior platform?

      OS X is based on BSD. It comes with and runs Apache, vi and Emacs, basically all the much loved Unix software. It is not an inferior platform. It blows Windows completely out of the water. If it's not for you, great. Enjoy your Linux desktop. :)

      What happens when you embrace and extend Godzilla? Nuclear heartburn!
      See "Godzilla 2000" (released in Japan as "Godzilla 2000 Millenium") for details.

    6. Re:Posted already? by Ben+Sawyer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hi,

      I don't think anything was posted given that I'm involved with the project and do the postings and grassroots reachout.

      We've been around for a while but until 2.0 was complete we hadn't done a ton of aggressive posting about the project. I did submit a note about a paper on public policy games of which Virtual U was mentioned but that was a general discussion of games in general not Virtual U specifically. Perhaps someone else might have posted something about it? In any case the only other thing I would submit is when the source becomes available later next month...

      Ben Sawyer

    7. Re:Posted already? by SEWilco · · Score: 1
      "... it might give some insight into the "bureacracy" and "red tape" that are experienced in so many large institutions"

      So the game makes you wait in line for two hours during registration time? Or do you get to design paperwork and the 80 steps required to process it?

      "decisions that will effect thousands"

      Yup, that sounds like the real Taco.

  6. Its happening.... by Swix · · Score: 0

    187....147.....100....87......83.....40.....10KBPS

    Ouch.

  7. Another Sims idea by Ralph+JewHater+Nader · · Score: -1

    SimBank. You play the role of a greedy kike trying to jew as many people as possible.

    --

    1. Re:Another Sims idea by Roto-Rooter+Man · · Score: -1

      Is that like playing Ethnic cleansing as the bad guys?

      --

      The goatse guy for president. Win one for the gaper!
  8. Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So we don't need a supercomputer to simulate interpersonal elationships and education. What will they think of next?

  9. MAD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The Alfred E. Neuman foundation!

  10. To make it truly realistic... by jcsehak · · Score: 5, Funny


    ... I'm going to skip it.

    --

    c-hack.com |
    1. Re:To make it truly realistic... by DenOfEarth · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...or sleep through most of it

    2. Re:To make it truly realistic... by fifthcent · · Score: 1

      seriously, how else would you get through college.... or maybe you could do it while intoxicated... riiiight
      :-p

      --
      my $.05
    3. Re:To make it truly realistic... by 56ker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Does it also include :
      students and staffers going on strike?
      the IT project coming in over budget?
      the completed exam papers being dumped in a river by the Post Office?
      Thought it wasn't as realistic as that!

    4. Re:To make it truly realistic... by norwoodites · · Score: 1

      What about students that "cheat"?
      And teachers wrongly accusing students of cheating?

  11. Hurrah for the w3c troll! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll


    Thank goodness, you have my blessings !

    Try running any .NET aspx page (asp.net)through a validator and see what you get! , makes /. look good :p

    "The great thing about standards is there are so many to choose from" - A.non

    1. Re:Hurrah for the w3c troll! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      Try running any .NET aspx page (asp.net [w3.org])through a validator and see what you get! , makes /. look good :p
      It's funny how people were pissed at others putting font tags on every line - and it wasn't a standard. Now Microsoft do span tags on every line and no one bats an eyelid :)
  12. money for old rope? by adporter · · Score: 1

    So someone will get a nice big research grant to sit around watching how a virtual university works, and then find out how to improve their university.

    They will do this while sat in a perfectly good university, with all those "real" things happening. Sadly they will miss this because they are too busy playing The Sims "Brainy People Edition".

    1. Re:money for old rope? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are some things that aren't going to get tested on a real university. "Let's move the Physical Sciences building over three blocks and see what happens" doesn't really happen. But if you can produce copious documentation from a simulation that there's a benefit, maybe when it falls apart from under-upkeep in three or four years, they'll rebuild it there.

      Also, it might be useful for working out funding models in a de-politicized environment. Nobody cares if you cut the VIRTUAL football stadium maintenence fund.

  13. Thumbs up by NickRob · · Score: 1

    To me this doesn't sound all that fun, however, it will give the Student Governments of the world something better to do than write letters to the paper.

  14. The Sims by EricBoyd · · Score: 1

    I hope the game has a more realistic simulation of people lives and economics than The Sims had. If so, it could be an extremely useful tool not only for universities, but for all large organizations - I imagine they face many of the same types of challenges.

    Of course, like all such games, it's limitation will be your in-ability to impliment any policies or creative solutions that the game designs didnt think to allow. For instance, I bet the game doesn't let you switch to an Open Source IT infrastructure...

    Websurfing done right! StumbleUpon

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    augment your senses: http://sensebridge.net/
    1. Re:The Sims by Ben+Sawyer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No we don't let you switch to an open source IT infrastructure. As your point says, it's hard in a game to provide the same level of penultimate decision making that real-life allows.

      This can be dealt with in a few ways:

      1. Build a framework that lets you add over time ever more detail and realism

      2. Build a game where many areas are conceptual and abstract so that people can explore core issues and imagine the details that make up their more general decisions (i.e. fill in your own backstory as you cut the IT budget because you're moving to open source IT tools).

      3. Build some that has immense detail in it. (aka never finish.)

      With Virtual U we went with a bit of the first 2 ideas. Ideally overtime with support we hope to continue progressing things toward ideas like more detail to the IT decisions given feedback and such however the original goal is to focus on the big issues and general decisions.

      One other issue with the IT stuff that is important is to understand what the real impact is. Is there detailed analysis available saying what switching to an open-source infrastructure does to a universities IT budget? Does it really work? While we've undoubtably put some bias in our product, as we go forward and begin to add more detail like this we're inevitably going to add more bias to the model.

      Also I think it can be safely assumed that in Virtual U some % of your overall IT budget is going to open source tools and infrastructure. It would be interesting to know what % of universities IT budgets are spent on such tools and services. Maybe the guys at Educause would know. I'll ask them.

      Ben Sawyer

    2. Re:The Sims by gilroy · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Blockquoth the poster:

      2. Build a game where many areas are conceptual and abstract so that people can explore core issues and imagine the details that make up their more general decisions (i.e. fill in your own backstory as you cut the IT budget because you're moving to open source IT tools).

      I haven't read the code, so I might be entirely wrong. But my guess is, cutting the IT budget would lead to lower available services and thus inefficiency and more student gripes. But that doesn't (necessarily) model the switch to Open Source. Open Source breaks the financial model of "higher price == better (more) service". In other words, just because you don't pay for the tools, doesn't mean the tools are garbage.



      On one level, you could abstract this by saying the IT budget reflects license costs and service costs. If we drive down the license costs, then we can spend more on services in the same budget. But actually the model doesn't work that way. There's simply no way that paying for Office licenses (and Windows licenses) is intrinsically equal to paying for more help desks. If we need to abstract this much, then a very useful sim capability -- test whether Open Source can work as well for less -- is not available.


      On the other hand, it's hard to see how you could code for that without simply incorporating your own personal bias towards Open Source (or against it) into the simulation. Is there hard data anywhere?

  15. My choices as president by Ayatollah · · Score: 4, Funny

    Naturally, tuition goes up every year no matter what. I will also enfore the no-reusing-of-textbooks policy set by my forefathers. Lastly, I will work harder to admit more students who only want to party. They know they're buying the degree, not the education, so let's have a wet t-shirt contest instead of a group study. Pass the beer bong, dude!

  16. The criterion for determining how good a game is.. by Neologic · · Score: 5, Funny
    I always determined how good a game is by asking the question, "Would I skip class to play this?".
    Can't see that happening with this- would you skip class to play at going to class?

    From the website: Virtual U is a caricature of real academic life grounded in authentic conceptual structures and data.
    Silly me, I always thought academic life was a caricature of reality already, how could they caricaturize it further?

    --

    "I hate quotations. Tell me what you know." -Ralph Waldo Emerson

  17. Holy Cow by martissimo · · Score: 2

    the site gets posted on /. so i naturally figure i better download the game and try it before i comment.

    and i get 227 KB/s from their server while it's the top story at /.

    impressive, well either that or the game sucks so bad that nobody is even bothering to grab the file

    1. Re:Holy Cow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well my current transfer is 12.5 so please mirror.

    2. Re:Holy Cow by rehannan · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah?!? Well I got 5.0KB/s! Dialup modems rule!!!

  18. Is SlashDot right? by QuodEratDemonstratum · · Score: 1


    I'm going to ban my students from using P2P services and allow my research staff to patent my research ... if the typical slashbot is correct about the merits of these actions, I should lose my game quite quickly.

  19. Just waiting for the download . . . by millisa · · Score: 1

    I hope there is a feature to 'Prevent all Grad Students who speak unintelligible English from teaching'. I just don't see why this happens. Many colleges seem to think it's ok to let the profs get by letting their grad students teach for them, but I don't see how this is what the student is paying for. They are there to learn a subject from a professional educator, not learn how to interpret thickly accented versions of their own language from another student. If a grad student wants to go into teaching the subject, it is reasonable, but in order to teach they have to be understood first.

    1. Re:Just waiting for the download . . . by BlueFall · · Score: 1

      A lot of schools require their graduate students to do at least some TAing. Often they have English competency exams, but apparently, they aren't enough...

    2. Re:Just waiting for the download . . . by rosewood · · Score: 2, Offtopic

      Wichita State University ( www.wichita.edu ) is INFAMOUS for this. WSU has a VERY high arab student population. In fact, most of those news stories you heard about student visas included profiling our school. One of first WTC bombing guys had an expired WSU student Visa (never came to WSU, just got accepted and the visa to get in the US). Rumor has it that one of the 9/11 pilots did the same, however that is un-confirmed. That, however is beside the point. The point is that a heavy minority of the student population does not speak native english, and ESL (English as a Second Language - which I do TA for Spanish -> English) is not flying. Example:

      I started out as a CS major. First college class: Calc I. I had looked at calc stuff before, had a basic understanding - but was ready to learn. My teacher was a jack-ass who normally only taught grad-courses but taught calc once every 3 years "to stay fresh." Luckily, we have a "math-lab" (always sounds like meth-lab) for students. Problem: You can not understand the god damned tutor. I polietly asked him to repeate himself time and time again, and I still had no fucking clue. For the 6 weeks I was in Calc, before I dropped and changed majors, we had 3 subs - one russian, two arabs of some sort. I could not understand one fucking word that came out of their mouths. Reminder: I am a spanish major and I am pretty good at listening and picking things out. My boss at the time had a stroke and I could understand him.

      Anyways, simulate having such a small pool of elligable profesors to where you have to put people who can not "speaka da english" and then you have a winner. (I would not play it, but I would not play Sims and thats a best seller - who the fuck knows. I cant wait for the sim where you sim playing sims!)

    3. Re:Just waiting for the download . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      What crack head moderator put this as off-topic? He was talking about the game? Did you even manage to get past the first paragraph? Jesus Christ

      My guess? I smell a college drop out / lives-at-home-with-mom-in-basement

    4. Re:Just waiting for the download . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My guess: some disgruntled illegal immigrant.

  20. Virtual Sim - U scenarios? by Navius+Eurisko · · Score: 5, Funny

    Any good sim game has to have scenarios you can play where an impending crisis looms before you. Here are my thoughts on some possible scenarios:

    - Your campus' Athletic fraternity have lost their frat house to a natural distaster. They, in turn, kick the nerd fraternity out of their house. Do you let the Athletes stay in the house or help the nerds get on the Greek council?

    - The RIAA is threatening to sue your university over student mp3 servers running on network. Do you rebuff the RIAA or crack down on the warez sites?

    - Students have petitioned administration to switch the student computer labs over to linux, saving thousands. The Evil company providing your university with their OS, has bound you with restrictive licences. Do you ignore the students or try and find a way around the licences?

    1. Re:Virtual Sim - U scenarios? by l810c · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Virtual Sim - U scenarios? by dirvish · · Score: 1

      I would play if I could demand that the entire campus network be switched to Linux. Or require a bikini dress code. Can you become anyone besides the president? Like a network admin or the President's secratary: the people who actually know what is going on in a university and actually get stuff done.

    3. Re:Virtual Sim - U scenarios? by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 1, Redundant

      You forgot the Animal House scenario. Shame Belushi isn't alive for a cameo. :(

    4. Re:Virtual Sim - U scenarios? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if the basketball coach was named Bob Knight?

  21. Does anyone have... by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    ... the address to download a Cmdr. Taco and Wife set of skins?

  22. Windows only by benh57 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Slashdot posting PR for closed-source windows-only games? This is truly a a new low. There are tons of open source graphics packages and frameworks they could have used.

    1. Re:Windows only by benh57 · · Score: 1

      Aha, they do have source up, but it is for version 1.0, from 1999.

    2. Re:Windows only by Ben+Sawyer · · Score: 1

      We plan on having the source for 2.0 soon. We're working out a few kinks first to get a 2.01 then we'll be releasing the source for this as well. We are encouraing people to want to port it to other platforms as well. It will run on Macs that have Virtual PC we tested it as such and confirmed it works acceptably if your Mac is fast enough. The development approach, and budget for VU didn't allow us the ability to do multiplatform although we wish we'd done it. Ben Sawyer Virtual U project team

    3. Re:Windows only by Ben+Sawyer · · Score: 1

      This isn't necessarily true. We also released the source for 1.0 although for many reasons we couldn't make it truly open source (yet). We are committed to releasing the 2.0 source code soon. One thing you fail to realize about graphics APIs and frameworks is you need developers who were familiar with them and a management staff who was familiar with them as well. We didn't have that so we went with what was known. The point was to develop the model not make the ultimate piece of open source code.

      We also have published a lot of our design notes, pushed the product to free status, and will be publishing more about the model and source soon. Slashdot just posted stuff about Neverwinter Nights for that matter and we're a heck of a lot more open that that product.

      Ben Sawyer

  23. Politcal Sims by bildstorm · · Score: 2

    I love these kinds of games, since they're very much geared towards learning.

    Am I mistaken in thinking that these guys helped fund Reinventing America (I and II)? That was a really cool idea which I'd like to see brought back.

    --
    The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. - G.B. Shaw
  24. GAME OVER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Dammit, the Deltas beat me again! I really hate those guys! Next time, I won't waste my 'double secret probation' bomb quite so early!

    [opens Game Settings and adjusts the ROTC 'Hitler Youth' slider more towards '100%']

  25. BSA == world domination? by ryman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Speaking of the BSA: Did anyone else notice the graphic on the BSA's website of a copyright symbol superimposed over the earth? Maybe I'm just paranoid....

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    "We are far too easily pleased." --C.S. Lewis
    1. Re:BSA == world domination? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone needs to patent the 'business method' of world domination. Or does M$ have too much of a claim of prior art? :)

  26. Actually by gatesh8r · · Score: 3, Interesting
    With The Sims, various Housing and Urban Development groups have been using this to simulate ideal conditions for people to live in since there has been a great deal of research done with the game to provide a more realistic situation with various designs.


    It may seem to be a game these simulations, but in simulations it allows for a faster delivery of results statistically and realistically. Most of the time these simulations are money well spent. It doesn't mean that some stat geek isn't going to have some fun and poke around with things as we may do to have fun. You just can't do some things with certain senarios due to time and money.

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    Karma whorin' since 1999
  27. SWG Beta(PS2 )? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey guys, I'm having trouble with my beta copy of Star Wars Galaxies(PS2). When I boot with the Lunix kit, I'm getting an error that says:

    Not found: /dev/bb

    But I have the ethernet card config'd properly. Can anyone help?

    Also, you were duped into reading this post. Lunis is for fags. FreeBSD rocks your socks. As an aside, I had your sister last night. In the pooper too!

  28. Platform QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The product runs on Windows 2000/XP/9X/ME.

    Well, duh. What, you think it's going to run on Linux or something? I suppose their could have been a Mac version, but we know Mac versions are always at least a year behind The Industry Standard Platform.

  29. hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    by Veronique de Rugy

    Veronique de Rugy, who left France to live in America, is a fiscal policy analyst at the Cato Institute.

    Should we laugh or should we cry? The first round of the French presidential elections are over. For months, media and polling agencies predicted that Jacques Chirac (the supposedly conservative president) would face Lionel Jospin (the socialist prime minister) in the runoff for the French presidency next month. Voters, however, decided otherwise. Now the so-called extreme rightist Jean-Marie Le Pen will face Jacques Chirac. Yes, that's correct, the socialists didn't even make it to the second round of the elections. But that does not mean that a free market and a free society will now reign in France under Chirac or Le Pen. For both men are protectionists and neo-socialists in their economic and public policies.

    I am, of course, delighted to see the Socialist Party humiliated and yet also shocked by the outcome of the elections. Equally delightful, France's main parties of the left are now calling on voters to vote for President Jacques Chirac in the second round of the presidential elections. Can you imagine Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, or Ralph Nader begging Americans to vote for Bush or Reagan? Certainly this is good news.

    But the bad news is that this vote does not signify support for free markets and small government. Neither candidate (Chirac or Le pen) is "libertarian," or even "conservative" in the American sense of the term. Le Pen used to pay lip service to markets. But now he is best known for being an extremely nationalistic opponent of globalization. He also has an unpleasant reputation for being racist. And he got a lot of attention a few years ago for calling the Nazi gas chambers "a detail in history."

    On the other hand, Jacques Chirac is hopeless. He was elected seven years ago sounding like the Republicans who took over Congress in 1994. But whereas the GOP at least made some positive steps, Chirac took France further in the wrong direction. The result of his statist policies and large tax increases is an all-time high unemployment rate. That incompetence put the socialists and the communists back in the French Assembly less than 2 years after Chirac's victory in 1995. This time around, Chirac swears that things will be different and that he will cut taxes. He is, however, a bit less daring about reforming France's social security and her 35-hour work week. As he says, "we still have to do things a la Francaise."

    If Chirac is elected he will continue to promote big government programs, more regulation, high taxes, and bad policies across the board. That's what he has done for 30 years. And there is no reason for him to do any differently now, especially since at 70 years old he doesn't have a political future. This is why the socialists and communists apparently are comfortable in calling on voters to elect Chirac. They know from experience that Chirac represents no danger to the core values of socialism, and, besides, he won't be around much longer.

    In addition to the two candidates chosen-Chirac and Le Pen-the action of French voters shows that they don't really want less government or sound economic policies. If you add the socialist votes, the communist votes, and the other leftist votes you realize that nothing has changed and the French people still overwhelmingly vote on the left side of the spectrum. There was a free-market candidate, Alain Madelin. But his campaign to "give men back liberty and responsibility, give them the chance to blossom and succeed," did not succeed. The 55-year old leader of the Liberal Democracy Party got 3 percent of the votes. The fact that few people voted for him demonstrates that the French still do not get it.

    The French have no understanding of why the economic situation there is so bad. They don't realize that big government is why France fell from the fifth richest country in Europe to the twelfth richest country - just ahead of socialist Greece. The French still worship the government.

    Voting for Le Pen last week means that people prefer to forget that globalization and free trade have made France the world's sixth biggest foreign trader. Nonetheless, given unemployment and other problems, the French apparently would rather blame immigration instead of years of socialist policies for the economic situation. Will French voters ever learn the importance of freedom and responsibility? There is reason to doubt.

  30. Knockoffs by First_In_Hell · · Score: 0
    It is only a matter of time before Educator Tycoon hits the shelves to deliver this groundbreaking product to the public? Haven't programs (i.e. games) like this been available to gamers for years?

    What makes this stuff any more realistic or ground-breaking than the latest buzz phrases on the back of Mall Tycoon, I am definately not gonna take their word for it.

  31. BSA Bastards by PsychoElf · · Score: 1

    The BSA claims that billions of dollars in revenue, wages, and taxes have been lost due to piracy.
    When in reality, the numbers would be much smaller because most software pirates are too poor to afford a $100.00+ program to do just a few projects on.

  32. i wonder... by jcortega · · Score: 1

    if they have an expansion pack so i can improve my social life in college too... just install *Hot Date* and i can find cuter girls in my computer engineering classes (or girls period)

    1. Re:i wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      you want to find a "girls period"...

      you are a sick fucker.

    2. Re:i wonder... by saintlupus · · Score: 0

      just install *Hot Date* and i can find cuter girls in my computer engineering classes (or girls period)

      A friend of mine is just finishing up the last semester of his CS undergrad work. His comment on the girls in his classes?

      "I'm gay, but they're _still_ ugly."

      --saint

  33. I wonder... by schroedinbug · · Score: 0

    if it realistically simulates a government hellbent on passing the income tax, so the money coming in from the state gets smaller and smaller due to "needing to tighten the belt". Its getting rediculous here in TN.

  34. Question: by DarkHelmet · · Score: 1

    So, is there a secret part of the game where you get to be president of Clown College?

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  35. The Student Union Univeristy Simulator by lukecs · · Score: 0

    This software simulation game lets you play as a Student Union President of a U.S. University. You choose how students drink, party and decide if you should sell magic brownies in the Student Union bake sale. Version 2.0 replaces Bud light with Molson Canadian and adds new features. This product is supported though University student money. The product runs away from exams. The software is being used by a number of drunks enrolled in Psychology, and is part of an overall project to improve thinking about avoiding hang-overs. No word on if virtual-SU features a "going to class" scenario.

    1. Re:The Student Union Univeristy Simulator by Ben+Sawyer · · Score: 1

      "Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman, Damn Glad to Meet Ya."

  36. WIPO TROLL!! by Serial+Troller · · Score: -1

    WIPO TROOL, why have you forsaken us!?!?
    Come back, WIPO!!! Come back!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    STOP ME BEFORE I POST AGAIN!

  37. The Limbaughs need this. by bstadil · · Score: 1

    Maybe we should send a copy of this to the demented Judge Stephen Limbaugh (Brother of the Big Fat Idiot) that ruled that games were not Speech and found "no conveyance of ideas, expression, or anything else that could possibly amount to speech" in the games.

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    1. Re:The Limbaughs need this. by Lothar+0 · · Score: 0

      Actually, Stephen Limbaugh is the uncle of Rush, who also has a son, Stephen Limbaugh, Jr., who is the Chief Justice of the Missouri Supreme Court.

      Just more evidence that conservatives are just as pro-big government as the liberals they chastize.

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    2. Re:The Limbaughs need this. by scootr1 · · Score: 0

      Just more evidence that conservatives are just as pro-big government as the liberals they chastize.

      I believe that the word you are looking for is "nepotistic", not :pro-big government".

  38. Off Topic... by dustym · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of a discussion I had with my friend today. We were discussing how crappy his MIS class is and how useless the skills he was practicing were (he is not at all technically inclined).

    We basically came to the conclusion that all college professors should write their textbooks. They should draft them and have an on campus press print them. Nothing fancy, just the core information they are trying to present. This would certainly kill the college textbook racket as well as weed out the really incompetent Professors. Any thoughts? Of course I understand that it will never happen, even on the coldest day of a winter in hell, but still, it is an interesting concept to discuss.

    1. Re:Off Topic... by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2

      You, sir, have stumbled upon a key criterion. How many professors have published pedagogical materials within the last ten years that are still in use?

    2. Re:Off Topic... by erink42 · · Score: 1

      I wholheatedly agree. The most interesting and valuable class I have ever taken was an introductory physics course in which the professors (a husband-wife team) had written the textbokk specifially for that course. The book is also used in several other introductory physics courses, but its insightfulness is only really appreciated by students of the authors, since the lecture material is so well-coordinated with what we read in the book. Fortunate as it would be, it is unrealitic to expect all professors to care about their students to that degree. Sadly, for most professors (particulary at research universities), teaching is just something they have to do so they will be able to do their research.

    3. Re:Off Topic... by batemanm · · Score: 1
      We basically came to the conclusion that all college professors should write their textbooks.

      How about just producing notes for the class? I've had experience of books that were just written for the course and to be honest they were pretty awful. The best way I've seen of doing it is producing notes from the lecture slides that were given. This way the notes tie in with the lectures.

  39. Woo Hoo!! by Shriek · · Score: 1

    Yay! now I can get my virtual degree in jornalism.
    Will that at least qualify me to write virtual articles for slashdot? :)

    Finally a game that is virtually real!

  40. MODS! by limekiller4 · · Score: 1

    MSFUDMOD01.ZIP: Introduces Bill Gates' henchmen to your IT/Finance dept. This will install "virtual IIS" on every campus machine, increases complexity geometrically, saps resources, makes the better CS students grouchy.

    PSEUDCHTMOD01.ZIP: Enforcment of such gems as "trying to learn how to be a CS major will get you thrown out of the class".

    SLAVEMOD01.ZIP: Increases revenue for the school by making all of your students research yours to sell.

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    My .02,
    Limekiller
  41. Don't bother by tfreport · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Downloaded and played it. The game would definitely benefit from either a tutorial or at the very least more active help features at the beginning. The interface is such that you are lost trying to figure things out. I wasted a half hour before realizing that I was getting nothing out of it and was figuring very little out. Seems like a great idea, I just need some sort of documentation to better understand what I am doing right and wrong.

    1. Re:Don't bother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Try this link!

      http://www.virtual-u.org/download.html

      This download includes all necessary documentation

      Virtual U 2.0 Flash supplemental tutorial*
      Virtual U 2.0 Flash supplemental tutorial* (mirror site)
      3.2mb (3/19/00)

      Approximate download time (in minutes) 28.8 33.6 56.6 DSL/CABLE/T1
      15 - 20 13 - 18 8 - 10 1 - 3

      *You should also download our earlier 1.0 tutorial below.

      Virtual U 1.3 full download
      Virtual U 1.3 full download (mirror site)
      14mb (8/25/00)

      Approximate download time (in minutes) 28.8 33.6 56.6 DSL/CABLE/T1
      70 - 100 60 - 90 40 - 60 3 - 20

      Virtual U 1.3 Original Manual download
      285K PDF file (08/25/00)

      Virtual U 1.3 Original Strategy Guide download
      241K PDF file (08/25/00)

      Virtual U 1.3 Original Tutorial Download
      22mb Zipped Archive (8/25/00)

    2. Re:Don't bother by martissimo · · Score: 5, Informative

      The game would definitely benefit from either a tutorial

      hmm something like this (241 KB PDF) ,or maybe this (22 MB zip file)

      lots of info listed right below the click here to download link ;)

  42. How realistic... by zubernerd · · Score: 4, Funny
    can such a program be made to be... Let's see, it should simulate:

    (1) Backstabbing and in-fighting among the professors. Let's face it, not all profs are looking out of the best interest of the students. Some just want to do their research and not be bothered by such pesky details such as students who want to learn. At the Univ. I'm at, the chair of the deptartment I'm in is about to retire; in other words, there is blood in the water, and there is going to be a ego/pissing contest to get that seat.

    (2) A lazy student gov't Let's face it, what is the job of student gov't? To serve themselves and get laid, what else! Really, the student gov't where I'm at is corrupt and has done nothing for the students. However, I hear their desks are used for more than writing papers...

    (3) 'Loopy' Deans Overheard to between a dean and a prof: Dean "You need to get the enrollment up in your program before we can fund it anymore" Prof: "You need to fund us, since we are near broke and need money for facilities and staff to get studnets in the program" Dean: "You need to enroll more students to get more money" (Now, think endless loop...)

    (4) 6 Chancaller, 10 year... We go through head hanchos like toilet paper, each with their own 'texture'... Really though, there seems to be little direction from the top.

    Ok, really, this is a cool game; I just hope it can help teach the next generation to run a university (and NOT run it into the ground)

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    Accentuate the positive, don't waste your mod points on the negative.
    1. Re:How realistic... by emag · · Score: 2

      (1) Backstabbing and in-fighting among the professors. Let's face it, not all profs are looking out of the best interest of the students. Some just want to do their research and not be bothered by such pesky details such as students who want to learn. ...

      Don't forget the reverse is also true. I remember a professor at the university I was at who was let go precisely because he spent so much time with the students, helping them to learn, and not nearly enough time publishing papers. There was even a petition signed by a few hundred students, to no avail. Last I heard, he'd gotten a better-paying job at a lab in the area.

      (2) A lazy student gov't Let's face it, what is the job of student gov't? To serve themselves and get laid, what else! Really, the student gov't where I'm at is corrupt and has done nothing for the students. However, I hear their desks are used for more than writing papers...

      Damn, I must've missed that action when I was in the SGA. I was part of a group that actually got pissed off with the then-current, frat-run SGA. We organized online, initially via the general discussion newsgroup, then through a nice majordomo list (it helped that we were almost all CS and/or IS students initially). We ran a unified campaign for both the "executive" and "legislative" sides ("judicial" was appointed by the administration).

      We took the legislative, but certain large special interests on-campus managed to secure the presidency. One half of the student government was arguably corrupt, but it wasn't the side I was in. Not that we were able to do anything about it, even though we worked our asses off, even working through the summer before the new year started. We managed to rewrite most of the policies and governing documents, since no one had bothered to keep track of such pesky things as amendments, the passed/failed legislation, etc.

      I'd like to think that we made a difference, but being brutally honest, we didn't accomplish much. I went back a few years later, and basically everything we'd done had been reversed. Then, because of a certain amount of...financial improprieties...allegedly perpetrated by some people on the exec side, what little influence the student government had was eventually crushed by the university administration. Nowadays, I don't even recognize the new organization at all.

      But that year and a half was one of the best times I'd ever had. There were 4 of us living together on-campus, all who'd gotten involved. We became the de facto campaign headquarters, and throughout the year we actually served, still managed to have most of the senate over regularly, and at all hours. Ah, the sleepless nights...tripping over campaign materials...having a half dozen people sleeping on the floor...

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      "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." --H.L. Mencken
    2. Re:How realistic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (2) A lazy student gov't Let's face it, what is the job of student gov't? To serve themselves and get laid, what else! Really, the student gov't where I'm at is corrupt and has done nothing for the students. However, I hear their desks are used for more than writing papers...

      One wonders if they put in the wacky dissident groups, like the IOP here at RPI.

  43. Any porting projects? by PeterClark · · Score: 3

    I skimmed the license agreement, and it looks like (at first glance) a BSD-advertisement license. In any case, the source is available, so (naturally) I am wondering if there are any attempts to port it to Linux/*BSD. Or does it use DirectX? I guess DirectX wouldn't preclude porting, just make it more difficult. Thoughts?

    :Peter

    1. Re:Any porting projects? by Spoing · · Score: 2
      Here's what the FAQ says;
      1. What is the public source version of Virtual U?

        The public source version of Virtual U is now available and provides access to the very source code and source elements (i.e. graphics, sound, etc.) that comprise the actual Virtual U program. This source code is available for free for non-commercial purposes. Licensing of the source code will be made available to commercial interests (be they commercialized interests on behalf of public/private institutions, or industrial entities). All interested licensees of the source code can contact Ben Sawyer at bsawyer@virtual-u.org for more information.

        ...

        Why isn't there a Macintosh version of Virtual U?

        Our development team was skilled with Windows programming and thus Virtual U was originally developed for Microsoft Windows. Due to some of the proprietary graphics features and programming used to create Virtual U's unique graphical interface, it wasn't possible during the development of the first version to do a Macintosh version of the software. However, hope to eventually port Virtual U to the Macintosh. We are actively looking for volunteers who wish to port the core simulation kernal to the Macintosh and create a graphical interface suitable to the Macintosh. If you are interested in working with us on this, please contact Ben Sawyer at bsawyer@virtual-u.org.

        Why doesn't Virtual U run on Windows NT?

        In order to display its graphics, Virtual U uses a special graphical programming API (application programming interface) known as DirectX. Windows NT is only compatible with DirectX 3.0 while Virtual U requires DirectX 6.1 or higher. Because Microsoft never updated DirectX for the NT platform, Virtual U doesn't work with Windows NT. Windows 2000, the upgrade to Windows NT, supports DirectX 7 and higher and thus is compatible with Virtual U.

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  44. HA HA HA! Mod parent up! It's funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    heh heh. Student gov't is worhtlesss.

  45. The Big U by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    So does their simulator have giant radioactive
    rats? Mass drivers? Block Wars? Vagrant ex-chancellors?

  46. Since BSA was mentioned (slightly off topic) by The+Evil+Beaver · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Someone, or many someones (perhaps a campaign or something) should call the BSA hotline (1-888-NO PIRACY) claiming that the BSA themselves use unlicensed software. This of course is a lost call for them, and enough at the same time would be about the same as a DoS attack, wouldn't it?

    I'd bet that it would certainly piss them off enough to track people down, so if you do this, make sure that it's from a payphone and that you're wearing gloves. Heh.

    --
    Chris 'coldacid' Charabaruk Meldstar Entertainment
  47. I can't wait... by NanoGator · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    ... for the Panty Raid Party Pack!

    --
    "Derp de derp."
  48. hm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This game had better involve throwing massive amounts of money at the wall and not listening to anyone or else it will be wholly inaccurate.

    (...watching mtv2 on the giant wall of television screens at our new campus "gym", while waiting to use one of the 3 weight benches...)

  49. Be careful... by quick_dry_3 · · Score: 1
    "Windows 2000/XP Users: If you experience any blacking out or..."

    hmm...

  50. Old news of a kind by AtomicBomb · · Score: 1

    Virtual-university awards virtual degree, which in turn purchased by virtual "success people" to create virtual qualification.

    My email box is half flood of these. :-P

  51. If it were a truly realistic sim.. by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 1



    ...I'd be able to assassinate Brother Jed.

    Cheers,

    --
    Bowie J. Poag

  52. Stanford needs this by Animats · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I want to donate a copy of this to some of Stanford's management staff. They've made some bad decisions lately. Splitting off the hospital as a for-profit operation, then merging it back a year later, for example.

    1. Re:Stanford needs this by Ben+Sawyer · · Score: 1

      This is funny because the software was designed by a previous CFO of Stanford...William Massy. Also a big request of some larger universities is do we model a med school. Evidently they are notoriously ornery situations to deal with. - Ben Sawyer

    2. Re:Stanford needs this by Animats · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      Do you model mergers and acquisitions? The Stanford hospital mess involved splitting off the Stanford and University of California at San Francisco hospitals, privatizing them under a new entity, and then undoing the whole transaction a year later, at a cost of perhaps a billion dollars.

      Merger and acquisition activity has such a strong impact on a university that it's worth thinking about modelling it.

  53. from the BSA Attack clip by XO · · Score: 1

    In 1998, illegal copying of software resulted in losses of more than $2.9 billion in the U.S. alone.* This has a significant impact on the U.S. economy. In 1998, software piracy cost the U.S. 109,000 jobs, $4.5 billion in lost wages and nearly $1 billion in lost tax revenue.**


    Umm.. yeah, right.
    I wanna see some documents to back THIS up. Let's audit the BSA!

    --
    "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
  54. Good PC practice. by drink85cent · · Score: 1

    I wonder if one of the goals is to become a spinless politically correct nitwit similar to what Penn State's President Graham Spanier is really like.

  55. bikini by extra88 · · Score: 1

    No one wants to see you in a bikini.

  56. Virtual-U by dolphin558 · · Score: 1

    Virtual-U = training ground for those aspiring to be University Presidents.

  57. not enough funding by swankypimp · · Score: 1

    If you misallocate all your funds and can't build any more units on campus, other local universities will send wave after wave of orcish peons to overrun your administration building. Zug zug!

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    --All your stolen base are belong to Rickey Henderson
  58. topheavy administration by thumb · · Score: 1

    in order to make it fully realistic, you should be able to model your school after corporate structures. that is what is happening at my school right now - the CSU Chico administration has been steadily increasing administrative pay rates and expenses, while replacing tenured professors with part-time staff. i wouldn't be suprised if many other schools in the U.S. are following similar trends of corporatization.

    here are the stats given by the chapter of our faculty association:
    "The number of administrators increased by more than 125 percent from 1975-76 to 1998-99. During the same period, the number of full-time equivalent-students grew by 16.8 percent, and the number of faculty increased by approximately 6.8 percent."

    peachy.

    tim

    1. Re:topheavy administration by praksys · · Score: 1

      There is an interesting problem of economics revealed here.

      We tend to think that economies of scale apply to management costs. If you double the size of a company, then management costs should increase, but they will still be less than double what they were.

      In fact this is often the case, especially when the company is simply doing more of the same activity that it was doing before. The task of management is to solve an information problem. If the problem remains much the same, even as the company grows in size, then the management costs will remain much the same.

      Sometimes, however, the information problem becomes considerably more complex as the size of the company grows. This is often the case if the company diversifies its product line. If the difficulty of the information problem increases at a faster rate than the size of the company, then management costs will come to make a up a larger part of overall expenditure.

      This is most of the reason why the economy has not be taken over by a single monopoly (as Marx claimed would happen). At a certain point growth becomes impossible because the increases in management costs would outweigh any remaining economies of scale.

      Universities provide particularly acute examples of this problem. In a university there are always economies of scale to be had - you can squeeze more students into a class, you can utilize sqace more efficiently, and so on. But at the same time the task of managing all the resources of a university becomes imensely complex as the university grows. So the result is a lot of universities that are growing in size, and spending an ever increasing share of their total expenditure on management.

  59. uh-oh wedgies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    *cringes*

  60. message to slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    in the words of the great jim morrison, you're all a bunch of fucking idiots.

  61. Cut all sports programs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can I remove all forms of sports, athleticism, and jockism from my university?

    1. Re:Cut all sports programs by ArizonaBay · · Score: 1

      I don't think you can remove all the sports programs. You can cut their funding though..

      I did the exact opposite and named my school "Football Yoo-niver-city".

  62. Growing trends towards simulation by JohnBE · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I find the trend towards simulations of real life interesting. Does anyone else remember space simulations such as Elite? In a nutshell they were science fiction simulations. Isn't it odd that as computing power has increased more and more real life situations and systems are been simulated! Sim-this, Sim-that, Sim-U, Sim-Pets etc..

    I wonder if there'll be a Sim-Slasdot, where you have to manage revenue over costs and keep the mods in line ;-).

    So you increase your computing power and instead of simulating unreality, you simulate existing reality (albeit someone elses), there has got to be something backward.

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  63. The Sims.. by Ugly+Bob · · Score: 1

    Perhaps it should be sold to Maxis and be made part of The Sims family.

    Ugly Bob

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    To Live Is To Die.
    1. Re:The Sims.. by MisterBlister · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      You sure are ugly, ugly bob.

    2. Re:The Sims.. by Ben+Sawyer · · Score: 1

      I doubt that Maxis is interested as a publisher but Will Wright has seen the game and generally was supportive of our efforts. He is freinds with the program officer at the foundation that backed it. In general Will supports all sorts of stuff like this. I think he's happy to see games and game design approaches being applied to other needs. Even if we pale by comparison to some of his works it's nice to be seen as an outgrowth of his work. Ben Sawyer

  64. I am still watting for simPimp by bigmammoth · · Score: 0

    I am still waiting for simPimp. . . just think of the possibilities .. all the choices that have to be made, like how much crack to give to your hoes(you want to keep them on the job but you don't want them to overdose), whether to hire protection(you don't want to waste money if you don't have to),or if you fuck your own hoes are you loosing potential business(good question) what kind of system you have set up with cretin cops,(keeping them satisfied by whatever means necessary) to leave your corner in peace. how many hoes can you personally manage before needing to outsource(if you save up a great deal of money you can eventually run a hor house) and then manage rooms and what not, and when you go supper big time, you run a high class escort service to big time business clients.

  65. Test: Pls. Mod Down by Things+To+Do+Today · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    1. Re:Test: Pls. Mod Down by Things+To+Do+Today · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    2. Re:Test: Pls. Mod Down by Things+To+Do+Today · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    3. Re:Test: Pls. Mod Down by Things+To+Do+Today · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      The God Who Loves You It must be troubling for the god who loves you
      To ponder how much happier you'd be today
      Had you been able to glimpse your many futures.
      It must be painful for him to watch you on Friday evenings
      Driving home from the office, content with your week?
      Three fine houses sold to deserving families?
      Knowing as he does exactly what would have happened
      Had you gone to your second choice for college,
      Knowing the roommate you'd have been allotted
      Whose ardent opinions on painting and music
      Would have kindled in you a lifelong passion.
      A life thirty points above the life you're living
      On any scale of satisfaction. And every point
      A thorn in the side of the god who loves you.
      You don't want that, a large-souled man like you
      Who tries to withhold from your wife the day's disappointments
      So she can save her empathy for the children.
      And would you want this god to compare your wife
      With the woman you were destined to meet on the other campus?
      It hurts you to think of him ranking the conversation
      You'd have enjoyed over there higher in insight
      Than the conversation you're used to.
      And think how this loving god would feel
      Knowing that the man next in line for your wife
      Would have pleased her more than you ever will
      Even on your best days, when you really try.
      Can you sleep at night believing a god like that
      Is pacing his cloudy bedroom, harassed by alternatives
      You're spared by ignorance? The difference between what is
      And what could have been will remain alive for him
      Even after you cease existing, after you catch a chill
      Running out in the snow for the morning paper,
      Losing eleven years that the god who loves you
      Will feel compelled to imagine scene by scene
      Unless you come to the rescue by imagining him
      No wiser than you are, no god at all, only a friend
      No closer than the actual friend you made at college,
      The one you haven't written in months. Sit down tonight
      And write him about the life you can talk about
      With a claim to authority, the life you've witnessed,
      Which for all you know is the life you've chosen.

      Carl Dennis Practical Gods Penguin Books

    4. Re:Test: Pls. Mod Down by Things+To+Do+Today · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  66. newbie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I'm assuming that you're new to computers.

  67. Problem... by CrazyDuke · · Score: 1

    ...when student parking runs out, a real university ups the cost of parking fines and passes. It does not build more parking. It gives the students a nice tutorial in modern capitalism.

    --
    Any sufficiently advanced influence is indistinguishable from control.
  68. I've been testing this for the last hour by DivineOb · · Score: -1

    Ok not really...

    --

    I must burn in hell, suffer and pay for my sins
    But Gods the one who's losing, Satan always wins!

  69. Dammit... by errxn · · Score: 1

    Where the hell is the "Commit NCAA Infraction" key?

    --
    In Soviet Russia, Chuck Norris will still kick your ass.
  70. Sports dept. by ascending · · Score: 1

    "Your virtual university always features a football stadium and basketball arena"

    "Set your athletic policies and build a winning sports department "

    Sports department? I really don't _want_ a sports department! :)

  71. Anyone else get problems? by Sadiq · · Score: 1

    Hiya,
    I just downloaded and installed Virtual-U and i'm getting an error bitching about not being able to open RESOURCES\A_WAVE2.RES. Anyone else getting something like this?

    - Sadiq
    www.toao.com

    --
    SysWear - Geek T-shirts (UK/Europe)
    1. Re:Anyone else get problems? by Ben+Sawyer · · Score: 2, Informative

      This problem should have been solved... I'm checking on it. Run the Vu.exe from the root directory you installed it too and see if that solves it... it's a problem in a desktop shortcut that shouldn't be there. We might have some latent downloads still out there which weren't updated. I have my admin looking into it. Sorry. - Ben Sawyer

    2. Re:Anyone else get problems? by Schnapple · · Score: 1

      I got it the first time I ran it and then when I tried to run it again the problem went away. Keep at it, I guess.

  72. you know by nomadic · · Score: 3, Funny

    I bet if I played this it would end up like all the sim kinds of games I play.

    An angry populace, a police station on every corner, 0% spent on social programs, and me hiding in my mansion.

    Kind of strange how it always ends up like that...I mean, I don't INTEND on implementing libertarianism...

  73. Speaking of the BSA by ch-chuck · · Score: 2

    Was just enjoying a fantasy world where, everytime you run into a bug in commercial software you can get a court order and armed federal marshalls, raid the company, bust in their doors, install auditing software to track down and 'cuff the programmer responsible and demand they fix it or face $150,000 / day / bug fine.

    Then I woke up.

    --
    try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
  74. number one problem with the game by j1mmy · · Score: 1

    they grade you on things that don't necessarily reflect the performance of the university. ethnic diversity of students and faculty, for example. it would be far more interesting to compare how a university with a wide ethnic diversity performs as opposed to one without.

  75. Sentimental Graffitti by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds kind of like the Japanese hentai computer game "Sentimental Graffitti" where you are a college proffessor and you have to make all the right moves in order to get all of the girls to sleep with you.

  76. Re:SWP == world domination? by vaxer · · Score: 0

    That's what I think when I see the logo of Sherwin-Williams Paints: a paint bucket marked SWP, spilling red paint all over the globe, with the motto COVER THE EARTH.

    I'll bet the Socialist Workers Party loves it, though.

  77. Virtual U? Had It Since 1995' by shoemakc · · Score: 1

    http://www.vu.union.edu/about.html

    Our version allowed you to waste time, mis-appropriate Student Activities funds, and decide if you should revoke accounts for warez hosting.

    Hardware requirements are minimal, but the renewal fee is quite high (34+ K/year.)

    -Chris

    --
    --an unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys--
  78. BSA Attack? by mr100percent · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Yes, those rabid Boy Scouts....

  79. Mo' Money... by PhunkyOne · · Score: 0, Troll

    What the heck. I typed in Rosebud and I typed in Klapacius and no extra money? Is the cheat broken or something :) Does anyone have a link to this cheat? Oh yeah and the one to tone down the overbearing Public Safety dept :)

  80. Man the floodgates... by jzitt · · Score: 1

    The next poll: how many minutes will it be before we start getting spam promising us degrees from Virtual U?

  81. Perhaps unrealistic... by Patrick+Cable+II · · Score: 1

    From the buglist:

    8. Initialization produces too much Financial aid
    Our financial aide algorithm is setting financial aid to about 50% of gross tuition...


    "Thats not a bug, its a feature!"

  82. Page widening? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  84. The Explanation by mr100percent · · Score: 0
    Here, let me explain the humor of it to those under 12:


    BSA==Business Software Alliance

    ALSO

    BSA==Boy Scouts of America

    Get it?

  85. Buggy by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 2
    I played this a bit under the "slash the budget scenario". Athletics was the first targeted, followed by cuts to administration budget, increase in IT and distance learning budgets, decrease in non-traditional students. Got accolades from state board and students. :)

    Game crashed when allocating budget for year 2, though. Blah. Kinda buggy.