Is anyone else sick of this kind of attitude in the "scientific" community? Referring specifically to matters of the origin of life and the idea of intraspecies evolution, neither theory is even close to establishing scientific proof of their ideas, yet the intellectually "elite" have no problem ridiculing those who don't believe in evolution wholesale.
The dogmatic way these people insult those who challenge their beliefs is reminiscent, frankly, of the religious fundamentalists that they despise so much. How else do you explain the venom that they spew at those who question what they consider sacred? Besides, isn't this kind of attitude contrary to scientific thought? If their theory has so much evidence behind it, you'd think they'd welcome the chance to convince the rest of us further...
I think you've got a point here, but perhaps much of the real issue is the use of the general term "evolution". Just to be completely transparent, I believe in creationism, but I have no problem (and neither do any of my friends who believe in creationism/ID and have thought about it intelligently) with the idea of intraspecies evolution. It seems pretty obvious that, for example, some dog breeds must have evolved from other dog breeds. I mean, hell, even if you believe in the biblical idea that all people descended from Adam & Eve (which I do) then the only real way to explain the multitude of different races and ethniticies that we have today is the adaptation and mutation of the human species.
That being said, it's the idea of interspecies evolution that I have a real scientific problem with. I just don't think that anyone can really say that there's conclusive evidence of evolution between species. If the ID supporters were willing to concede to the idea of intraspecies evolution ("microevolution", in some circles) as they should, or at least verbalize that they support this idea, I have a feeling that this might have chance of fostering some real common ground between both camps.
I think the poster's point was that this seems like something that would be obvious/reasonable to everyone, not just a single Joe Schmoe. Hence, the word "common" in "common sense"...
Umm, yeah, that's why I said "...more akin to a right...". I wasn't saying that driving is really a right granted by the constitution; I was responding the solutions of the idiots who said, "hey, no one really needs a car, so if you don't like this monstrous invasion of privacy, then don't drive."
In these modern times where owning a vehicle is (argueably) a necessity for 95% of the population (this assumption may be more skewed toward the US, I admit). Because of this, I'd claim that this is more akin to a right, rather than a priviledge (such as owning a weapon, etc.) and makes the potential for abuse of such a system very dangerous.
It's different because customers have generally had a greater variety of (roughly) comparable ISPs to choose from: national (AOL, Earthlink, etc.), regional, phone company, cable, etc.). Without including more tech-savvy users (many/most of which who wouldn't use AOL or Windows anyways) there have still been choices. Using different ISPs has been relative simple for Joe Sixpack, as opposed to the large learning curve of using a different OS.
I'm not necessarily doubting your claim, but why would an article (even from the supposedly valid link you and others have posted) in Time or Wired be done in German? That just makes no sense.
From the article: We could look better than paint. But right now, we have to look like paint.
Maybe they've done some consumer studies on this and I'm just not getting it, but wouldn't the fact that it looks better than paint be a good selling point? Or is having the same paint job as the car next to you that important?
Fantastic...the president who inherits the economy is always blamed/praised for it. Clinton inherited the great economy of Reagan/Bush and took all the credit (which was very willingly given to him by the media) and Dubbya gets (and is readily given) the blame for what Clinton started. Does anyone else find it odd that people will believe that a president can have such an immediate, monumental impact on a economy when his policies have barely taken effect or have yet to be enacted?
...You see, it's just that we're putting the new cover sheets on all TPS reports from now on, so if you could just go ahead and do that for me, that would be great. And I'll make sure you get another copy of that memo.
The article was highlighting the growth of PC Baangs in California in the United States of America. Everyone knows they've been extremely popular in Asia for quite some time.
That was my question as well. Why is the one needed if it makes the first digit the same in all the phone numbers? Here in Phoenix we have 3 area codes, so unless I'm dialing within my same area code, I have to use 10 digits. But if I dial a 1 in front, the phone system thinks I'm dialing long distance and won't complete the call correctly.
I work here in the States for the financial services arm of the first company you mentioned. The writer failed to point out how many companies aren't just outsourcing to India, they're actually setting up their own branches there. If my co-workers have a computer problem, they have to spend half an hour on the phone with the company's (I'm trying to avoid mentioning the name explicitly) main IT staff in India (until they figure out, like they've been told repeatedly, that it can't be fixed remotely), file an IT case, and then one of our on-site IT staff is sent to the rescue. Unbelievable.
Thanks for the clarification. I noticed as I was re-reading his post that the definition didn't seem to match his tone, but I didn't have time (reading/. at work and all;)) to figure out what word he meant to use.
Kudos to this guy for word usage. For those who don't know the meaning of "venial" (ok, I didn't know either, until I checked it out;) here it is, from dictionary.com
venial adj.
Easily excused or forgiven; pardonable: a venial offense.
Roman Catholic Church. Minor, therefore warranting only temporal punishment.
What the heck? Who are MSFTards who modded this guys post? Hmmm...Microsoft XP Media Center Edition...watching TV on your PC...Digital Rights Management...this guy's not trolling, he's got a valid (and very ontopic) concern here. If there's any justice, the mods will get metamoderated into oblivion.
You managed to focus on what you wanted to see and missed the main point of his post entirely. Nice job. I think he was pointing out the inefficiency and poor quality results of the multi-national team; their lack of natively speaking english just was an obvious way to highlight the problem with management's cost-cutting measures. Next time try reading with your hyper-sensitive bigot radar turned off.
I know some bioengineering graduate students at my school (ASU) also get Dell laptops for their research. Technically, they're supposed to be returned to the university upon graduation, but since most of them are obsolete by that point, few (if any) are required to.
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Is anyone else sick of this kind of attitude in the "scientific" community? Referring specifically to matters of the origin of life and the idea of intraspecies evolution, neither theory is even close to establishing scientific proof of their ideas, yet the intellectually "elite" have no problem ridiculing those who don't believe in evolution wholesale.
The dogmatic way these people insult those who challenge their beliefs is reminiscent, frankly, of the religious fundamentalists that they despise so much. How else do you explain the venom that they spew at those who question what they consider sacred? Besides, isn't this kind of attitude contrary to scientific thought? If their theory has so much evidence behind it, you'd think they'd welcome the chance to convince the rest of us further...
That being said, it's the idea of interspecies evolution that I have a real scientific problem with. I just don't think that anyone can really say that there's conclusive evidence of evolution between species. If the ID supporters were willing to concede to the idea of intraspecies evolution ("microevolution", in some circles) as they should, or at least verbalize that they support this idea, I have a feeling that this might have chance of fostering some real common ground between both camps.
I think the poster's point was that this seems like something that would be obvious/reasonable to everyone, not just a single Joe Schmoe. Hence, the word "common" in "common sense"...
Umm, yeah, that's why I said "...more akin to a right...". I wasn't saying that driving is really a right granted by the constitution; I was responding the solutions of the idiots who said, "hey, no one really needs a car, so if you don't like this monstrous invasion of privacy, then don't drive."
In these modern times where owning a vehicle is (argueably) a necessity for 95% of the population (this assumption may be more skewed toward the US, I admit). Because of this, I'd claim that this is more akin to a right, rather than a priviledge (such as owning a weapon, etc.) and makes the potential for abuse of such a system very dangerous.
World War I...
World War II...
Vietnam...
Yeah, those were all wars we won easily. Take your own advice and "think for once" before you post, smart guy.
Why not just use one of these convenient, yet real, addresses:
webmaster@bsa.org
info@bsa.org
supportBSA@bsa.org
software@bsa.org
It's different because customers have generally had a greater variety of (roughly) comparable ISPs to choose from: national (AOL, Earthlink, etc.), regional, phone company, cable, etc.). Without including more tech-savvy users (many/most of which who wouldn't use AOL or Windows anyways) there have still been choices. Using different ISPs has been relative simple for Joe Sixpack, as opposed to the large learning curve of using a different OS.
I'm not necessarily doubting your claim, but why would an article (even from the supposedly valid link you and others have posted) in Time or Wired be done in German? That just makes no sense.
Heh, good point. I guess the best choices are being honest or not getting caught.
From the article: We could look better than paint. But right now, we have to look like paint.
Maybe they've done some consumer studies on this and I'm just not getting it, but wouldn't the fact that it looks better than paint be a good selling point? Or is having the same paint job as the car next to you that important?
reduced the cost of plastic below that of steal
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Can you really reduce anything below the cost of steal?
...I'm NY Times *challenged*
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you insensitive clod!
Fantastic...the president who inherits the economy is always blamed/praised for it. Clinton inherited the great economy of Reagan/Bush and took all the credit (which was very willingly given to him by the media) and Dubbya gets (and is readily given) the blame for what Clinton started. Does anyone else find it odd that people will believe that a president can have such an immediate, monumental impact on a economy when his policies have barely taken effect or have yet to be enacted?
...You see, it's just that we're putting the new cover sheets on all TPS reports from now on, so if you could just go ahead and do that for me, that would be great. And I'll make sure you get another copy of that memo.
The article was highlighting the growth of PC Baangs in California in the United States of America. Everyone knows they've been extremely popular in Asia for quite some time.
That was my question as well. Why is the one needed if it makes the first digit the same in all the phone numbers? Here in Phoenix we have 3 area codes, so unless I'm dialing within my same area code, I have to use 10 digits. But if I dial a 1 in front, the phone system thinks I'm dialing long distance and won't complete the call correctly.
I work here in the States for the financial services arm of the first company you mentioned. The writer failed to point out how many companies aren't just outsourcing to India, they're actually setting up their own branches there. If my co-workers have a computer problem, they have to spend half an hour on the phone with the company's (I'm trying to avoid mentioning the name explicitly) main IT staff in India (until they figure out, like they've been told repeatedly, that it can't be fixed remotely), file an IT case, and then one of our on-site IT staff is sent to the rescue. Unbelievable.
Thanks for the clarification. I noticed as I was re-reading his post that the definition didn't seem to match his tone, but I didn't have time (reading /. at work and all ;)) to figure out what word he meant to use.
venial adj.
Easily excused or forgiven; pardonable: a venial offense.
Roman Catholic Church. Minor, therefore warranting only temporal punishment.
What the heck? Who are MSFTards who modded this guys post? Hmmm...Microsoft XP Media Center Edition...watching TV on your PC...Digital Rights Management...this guy's not trolling, he's got a valid (and very ontopic) concern here. If there's any justice, the mods will get metamoderated into oblivion.
You managed to focus on what you wanted to see and missed the main point of his post entirely. Nice job.
I think he was pointing out the inefficiency and poor quality results of the multi-national team; their lack of natively speaking english just was an obvious way to highlight the problem with management's cost-cutting measures. Next time try reading with your hyper-sensitive bigot radar turned off.
Here it is.
I'm occasionally mystified by the choice postings for /. headlines, but this is an all-time low. That's all I have to say.
I know some bioengineering graduate students at my school (ASU) also get Dell laptops for their research. Technically, they're supposed to be returned to the university upon graduation, but since most of them are obsolete by that point, few (if any) are required to.