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Personal Finance Software for Unix?
pstreck asks: "I'm trying to find the best personal finance software for Unix. I've been using Quicken for a while, but unfortuantlly it won't run under Wine. I've tried gnucash but it just isn't up to par with what Quicken offers. What do you guys use?" While the free software versions may not quite be up to par with the current commercial offerings, it won't always be the case. The turning point can start now, of course. What finance software are you using now, what features do you like and what features do you think these software packages need?
Funny, I was about to moderate you down for just posting a blatant advert as a "response" when I remembered 'sc' was a spreadsheet program...
Simon
Physicists get Hadrons!
sc is a older curses based spreadsheet program for unix.
most people and businesses are using finance applications where a simple paper record or a digital one would MORE than suffice. you have a number of records, they are stored, once every year / quarter or whenever u do your finances you tally them up, and sit down for a day or so and calculate everything. the thing about finance applications is that in general, it takes more time for people to USE them then to just do it by hand. people have forgotten how to do simple maths :-(
now not only do they not know how to use a pencil and paper, they cant even use a CALCULATOR! they need special software to do EVERYTHING for them
QED
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It's no wonder the submitter posits the question, "Are there any personal finance tools for Linux" -- he's obviously involved in fundraising efforts for terrorist organizations like Al Qaeda. He mungs his e-mail address (got something to hide ``pstreck''), uses Linux (free downloadable from the 'net, no audit trail or software license with personal contact information).
I urge the Right Honourable President George Washington Bush to pass a bill outlawing the use of Linux as tools of terror.
Thank you for your support.
if you would have specified what it is that Gnucash won't do that Quicken does. "Isn't up to par..." doesn't really cut it. I've used Gnucash a little bit, and it seems to have everything that I would want - but my personal finances aren't so complicated that I can't manage them in my check register and savings book. I'm not really disciplined enough to enter every little thing into Gnucash often enough to make it worthwhile. My personal theory of finance is to earn way more money than I spend and always have enough in the bank to cover purchases, and not to have to rely on credit cards.
If there are specific features you're looking for, you should have mentioned them. Right now this is just another in a series of useless "Ask Slashdot" questions that indicate the poster didn't do any footwork on their own or even think very hard about the question.
I tried Quicken and thought that it was a little overkill for what I wanted to use it for. I only need to keep a register of what my account ballances are and want to be able to quickly and easily look up how much money I have and enter new transactions with the same ease. So, I ditched the personal finance software and fired up my favorite spreadsheet application. All I needed to do was to set up the worksheet so that the first collumn was the check number, the second was the date, the third the payee, the fourth the amount of the transaction, and the fifth my ending balance. The balance is taken from adding (or subtracting) the amount of the transaction from the ending balance of the line from above. Very simple and I don't need to wade through the excess features that I don't want or need.
Personal finance software brings several tool together into one package. But most of those you can easily recreate with other software.
http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/269/
I'd feel better if I were running a bootleg copy. But I stupidly paid retail for it.
Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by mere idiocy.
I've been using ChecFree's old DOS program under dosemu for a number of years. Its even is happy calling the old compuserve data network to transfer payments.
I've been using the program since about '92 or so and its quite happy except for a few stupid questions about thinking the date is set very far ahead and a few y2k sorting bugs.
I looked into the data format of the file and it looks very easy so if someone is looking at writing a program that talks to chcekfree, I might be able to dig up the code that decodes their packets. They build a small file and then xmodem it off to some connecion on the old CIS network so its not big on security but at least it works unlike my banks payment system (which uses some new shiny interface to the same backend and might just use the same CIS interface)
Open Financial Exchange
"a quote" -me
What do you guys use?
A Pilot fine point pen and my checkbook.
Hah! Finally being poor is advantageous and saves me hassle!
--saint
Now I'm confused... what else would it be? Quicken, MS Money... I just can't think of any commercial crap that has those initials. Fill me in?
And when the debt collectors call I say I'm not in but I will take a message. My suggestion for the pman is that he make a healthy contribution to the GNUCASH project, this will both simplify his financial situation and encourage improvements to the source code.
Your initials?
The point was that it was hard to tell what you were saying - a couple of blank lines before the ad would probably help...
Simon
Physicists get Hadrons!
In fact I can. With PostgreSQL and python.
*Dons asbestos kit*
;-)
In an unrelated note, I think gnucash 1.6.x has support for MySQL and PostgreSQL, in case flat files don't cut it.
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I run Quicken on Unix. I use Mac OS X.
I use GnuCash, and it has the ability to import QIF files (Quicken). I don't use it, so I can't comment on how well it works.
But it sounds to me like you are looking for a convenience. If the only reason you aren't using GnuCash is because you can't directly link to all those sources (401k, bank, CC), then it would seem that you are just a little lazy. Can't you just manually enter it? Yeah, I know, computers make things easier, and once you get used to them (lazy) then it is harder to do things for yourself. But I suppose that is why Windows is so popular.
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Ha!!! Postgres is TOO SLOW to compute my AWESOME WEALTH!
Python? The CONSTANT INSERTION OF "L" BEHIND MY DOLLARS OFFENDS!
Fie!
Hexayurt - open source refugee shelter,
Slow maybe (then again -- maybe not), but it'll guarentee that you don't lose track of your funds when making transfers from one account to another asumming you use it right ;)
Rod Taylor
is what the bank typically gives you at the end of each month. Thats right. I use my credit card for almost everything.
When tax time, submissions for refunds from my employer, etc. come around I simply photocopy my statement, black out the lines they shouldn't see. For the truely paranoid photocopy it again (so you can read through the page).
The only item that doesn't appear on that statement is rent. But if I could, I'd do that too.
Rod Taylor
If he can't figure out his finances without software, what makes you think he could figure out perl?
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If the only reason you aren't using GnuCash is because you can't directly link to all those sources (401k, bank, CC), then it would seem that you are just a little lazy. Can't you just manually enter it?
Why use GnuCash at all? Why not just manually write down your finances in in your checkbook and do the math in your head? This is exactly the type of thing that Quicken is good for, eliminating worthless "grunt work" like manually entering numbers.
Yeah, I know, computers make things easier, and once you get used to them (lazy) then it is harder to do things for yourself.
I have no fear that I will someday forget how to manually enter numbers into a computer.
You use GnuCash, I use Quicken. Both of us use a computer to do our math and bookeeping for us, the only difference is I don't have to type it in. I completly fail to see the point of your arguement unless you are against both GnuCash and Quicken...
Finkployd
I found this a couple of weeks ago in the Debian package archives. If your not running Debian, it can be downloaded from sourceforge. Overall the program is looking to be real solid. Its still in development in a lot of ways, but from my brief experiements, it looks like it has lots of nifty features and a very good ledger system.
Only 120 characters... who can summarize their entire world understanding in 120 characters?!
If the only reason you aren't using GnuCash is because you can't directly link to all those sources (401k, bank, CC), then it would seem that you are just a little lazy. Can't you just manually enter it?
Why use GnuCash at all? Why not just manually write down your finances in in your checkbook and do the math in your head? This is exactly the type of thing that Quicken is good for, eliminating worthless "grunt work" like manually entering numbers.
Yeah, I know, computers make things easier, and once you get used to them (lazy) then it is harder to do things for yourself.
I have no fear that I will someday forget how to manually enter numbers into a computer.
You use GnuCash, I use Quicken. Both of us use a computer to do our math and bookeeping for us, the only difference is I don't have to type it in. I completly fail to see the point of your arguement unless you are against both GnuCash and Quicken...
Finkployd
In general I have found this not to be the case. If you simply want a category breakdown, your credit card should already provide it - mine does. Otherwise, a simple check of your accounts once a week should give you a simple idea of how your spending is going.
Simply put, the only way to reduce expenditures is to not buy things. Also, watch for monthly fees you start incurring for this service or that - these monthly fees constitute a huge drain on most people's cash, and our economy is moving more and more to a rental model where it will be hugely important to control recurring service fees.
Added to which, most banks charge for the pleasure of automagically syncing Quicken with your account (although you can still manually update Quicken with a download file for free with most banks). So you could be losing money while trying to save it.
But they won't port to Linux and it supposedly doesn't run under Wine....
LoB
"Anyone who stands out in the middle of a road looks like roadkill to me." --Linus
Use just a text file like everyone else. That also makes it easier to encrypt if you don't have PGPDisk (it's all in the one file).
Use Gnumeric to do your calculations (and always have a worksheet open when you're on the phone to your bank to write notes in) but it's a lot easier to find things if you put the results back into the text file when you're finished.
The alternative (one spreadsheet for each thing) looks pretty for a while, until the next time you change software and find that copies of OpenOffice or Excel at university or on your windows partition can't read them.
This sort of data is what the "platform independance" argument is all about (c.f. Peru). It's stuff you'll still need to access long after your current software, computer, and operating system no longer exist. Need I even say that proprietry accounting software is out of the question.
Has anybody tried to run Quicken with WINE? How does it work?
Adding Quicken support to CrossOver Office could make it more interessant since there's no equivalent in Linux. Anybody from CodeWeavers here?
Andrea
Well, first off, my reply wasn't to you, unless you're the original poster using another user account. If you are the original poster, then what x86 UNIX are you using, a SCO UNIX, ____BSD, Solaris? An ancient copy of NeXTStep?
/. do anticipate the disappointingly average responses like the above (indeed, if you check the user # I'm more than a half-million users before you bothered to register - If I had a nickel for every two bit response posted here....)
Second, please re-read my post. The sentence you quote was written specifically to circumvent inane comments like yours. I've read enough of
It was suggested that the individual take a look at the OS X platform "at some point in the future", not "run out and drop down $1200 for a used g4 based powerbook right now just so you can run Quicken and Steve Jobs rules!" Hopefully, the omission of blatant pro-Apple/RISC drivel in my post, with a soft suggestion that indeed these apps are running under the platform in question (UNIX, not Linux) was designed to temper such soft-trolling that amounts to "OS X isn't Linux" and "It doesn't run on x86", both of which quickly devolve into how cheaply the supposedly enterprising geek can build a dual athalon monster machine for the price of an Apple platform that runs comparable GNU software to the commercial application in question (which makes one wonder how many actually have performed this platform gymnastic they're so quick to advocate).
As far as answering your post, either it's a whining piece of self-answering troll, or you somehow believe that I'm privy to the OS X product roadmap. I tend towards the former, which actually suggests that you're actually unhappy with your platform (x86) choice and the commitment you made in that investment, or you wouldn't have wasted the electrons complaining. My guess is "don't hold your breath" for an x86 port. If you really want the breadth of applications and UNIX that OS X offers, then you'll likely need to save several hundred bucks for a used powerbook (Which would be an answer to your "space" issues. If you can't afford the footprint of a laptop, you need to invest in more real estate, not a new platform).
"oohhh... I didn't know Schopenhauer was a philosopher!"
The code was big ? LOL!
I've been meaning to get organized and look at putting my finances, mortgage, bills, etc online - I keep them all for years so I'd be able to see where my money goes
After reading this I decided to download GNUCash - imagine my suprize: 15Mb!
root@hell:/home/skx# apt-get install gnucash
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
bonobo defoma dialog gs gs-common gsfonts guile-common guile1.4
guile1.4-slib libbonobo2 libdate-manip-perl libdigest-md5-perl libefs1
libfinance-quote-perl libgal19 libgdk-pixbuf-gnome2 libghttp1 libgimpprint1
libgnomeprint-bin libgnomeprint-data libgnomeprint15 libgtkhtml20 libguile9
libguppi16 libgwrapguile1 libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tableextract-perl
libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl libltdl3 libmime-base64-perl liboaf0
liburi-perl libwww-perl libzvt2 oaf slib
The following NEW packages will be installed:
bonobo defoma dialog gnucash gs gs-common gsfonts guile-common guile1.4
guile1.4-slib libbonobo2 libdate-manip-perl libdigest-md5-perl libefs1
libfinance-quote-perl libgal19 libgdk-pixbuf-gnome2 libghttp1 libgimpprint1
libgnomeprint-bin libgnomeprint-data libgnomeprint15 libgtkhtml20 libguile9
libguppi16 libgwrapguile1 libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tableextract-perl
libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl libltdl3 libmime-base64-perl liboaf0
liburi-perl libwww-perl libzvt2 oaf slib
0 packages upgraded, 38 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 15.7MB of archives. After unpacking 47.2MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.
I'm with you. You can find anything in the world via google, as the first few posts in an Ask Slashdot usually tell everyone, but that doesn't always help. Discussion, experiences, insights. Getting the feel of the /. attitude on something. It makes it a little more of a community.
I spent a year in Iraq looking for WMD and all I found was this lousy sig.
It was probably posted on comp.sources.unix or some such place back in the mid-80s.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Yes it will. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but writing software like that is BORING. Take a look at the best open source software out there and you'll see that it is "interesting" software: operating systems, window managers, development tools. Financial software is the kind of boring crud that nobody writes for fun, and so something like GNU cash will progress until the easy features are done, and then the authors will realize they don't want to spend any more time on such an uninteresting piece of software, and they will move on to something more interesting. Some software is just so utterly uninteresting or unprestigious that nobody works on it for fun, you have to PAY them to work on it.
Are you some poor mofo from bangladesh? Jesus christ, that 47MB of uncrompressed space is just too damned much!!
Wait.
I know.
I'll erase that Chumbawumba album I got and then hated.
# du -s Chumbawamba\ -\ Tubthumper/
61589 Chumbawamba - Tubthumper
I've never used finance software before, but when I started my business I knew I needed some way to keep track of finances. I've been using gnucash and it seems to fit the bill. Although I don't know if I'm missing anything by not using Quicken or whatever.
I think people need an actual understanding of accounting to use gnucash, whereas with Quicken you can just answer all of the pretty questions. I've talked to some people who use Quicken to manage their finances and they really don't get accounting at all.
What am I missing by only using gnucash?
But I second that MoneyDance has been a good product up until this point, with the notable exception of the Java headache it imposes. I'm still looking for a decent way to take my data from MoneyDance and input it into something like GnuCash, but haven't had much luck with it.
In MS Money 2002, under Tools / Options, there is a checkbox in the "Display" set of options on the default options page called "Turn off sponsorship and shopping links." If you do go onto some of the MSN services, such as the home finder, you will see some ads, but if you wait 5 seconds, they go away. Checking "Turn off sponsorship and shopping links" removes all ads and special offers from the core program, as far as I can tell.
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Well i did do research before a posted the question. and i never ran across Chritopher Browne's page in my searches. I went through the typical routes, google, freshmeat, sf. And i didnt find anything that was up to par. I had been using GNUCash for about 3 months and found it seriously lacking. So stop your grumbling, and thanks for the link.
Later,
Phil
Reporting is what makes these programs useful. I've used Quicken in the past to generate reports to see where money is going and whatnot and then compare between months and years.
The real problem is entering the data, and not all banks record enough information about the transaction. When you download the data, the transactions might report the company processing the transaction for the company you actually purchased from.
"The area of penetration will no doubt be sensitive." ~ Spock
I run Quicken on Unix. I use Mac OS X.
So you use Mac OS X. That operating system may implement most of the Single UNIX Spec, but I don't see it listed as a UNIX system.
Either way, I don't see "go out and buy a Mac" as a cost-effective solution to the personal finance software problem. The original poster (pstreck) mentioned Wine, implying that (s)he used an x86 computer. For the price of Mac OS X (and its $799 hardware key), pstreck could just go out and buy a hard drive and a copy of Windows XP Professional and install Quicken on that.
Will I retire or break 10K?
see they're using the word 'Druid' instead of 'Wizard'
And that is why free software is failing on the desktop; if each package uses different terms for the same functionality is it any wonder that users are put off.
Bitch about Microsoft, logo-requirements and usability guidelines all you like, but if software written to those standards is usable by people without much computer knowledge then it is going to be used.
You're practically guaranteed a huge amount of $.
I work for an online brokerage firm, and a new feature slated to me rolled out is a "trading wizard". That's a generic enough term, you'd guess. Guess again.
We had to figure out a different name for it as the term has been trademarked/copywritten by another firm.
I don't know if this is the case here, but in addition to product differentiation, it's a good strategy to call a feature something other than the generic term that might first come to mind -- an open source project really can't afford lawsuits.
All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself. - Johann Sebastian Bach
You can run Quicken; you just need the right shell.
I used the latest version of Quicken that came with TurboTax. I was amazed at how undeveloped the software was. There were numerous ways that it could have been improved. Maybe the company is preserving some shortcomings so that it can make money on later upgrades.
Plus, the company believes that you are a fair target for numerous money-making schemes.
That's why I like open source software. It's not adversarial. I don't want to play games with stupid people who believe that I am stupider than they are.
I use SQL-Ledger :)
Quickbooks runs under WINE. At least, it has before (over a year ago!).
I can also use Quicken with the latest snapshot of WINE
What about web-based services, like Netledger, Quicken online, or e-Peachtree? The downside is the cost, starting at $10/month. But you can access them from any net-connected computer with a decent web browser.
I disagree, knowing that I spent $400 last month on junk food DOES help me save money.
Knowing where/how you spend your money is the first step on spending less.
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Try QHacc. It uses plain text files to store everything. It's not too shabby, if I do say so myself. (I'm the author, of course.)
I came to Linux directly from the MS-DOS world, where Quicken 7.0 for DOS handled all my account tracking and balancing needs. I found Check Book Balancer (CBB) to be the equivalent Linux program. Simple. Straightforward. Keeps all your accounts balanced. Reads QIF and writes a simple text output that's great for grepping.
If you need features along the lines of online banking, mortgage finance calculators, etc. -- then go to the web. If you need the features of a business bookkeeping package, cbb won't fit the bill. But otherwise, do yourself a favor and keep it simple. Use CBB.
This shouldn't take too long: Quicken already works with Codeweaver's Crossover Office - except for the Internet connectivity bit. I have been told this is on their priority list, since so many people have been asking for it...
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Try this Canadian software companies product called Quasar:
http://www.linuxcanada.com/quasar.html
I've installed on my Mandrake box but haven't really used it much yet.
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At one point I tried to install and use GNUCash as my personal finance manager. The first problem that I ran in to was dependency hell. The program relies on tens of libraries. I went through quite a few ./configure --> download dependency --> install dependency --> ./configure until I was able to finally produce a build.
./configure dependency hell.
Now, GNUCash works on a double entry accounting system. That means every time you take money away from one account it goes into another, and vice versa. In some sense, it depends upon the idea that money just can appear out of nowhere, and it just can't disappear into the void. Supposedly it is a very powerful system of accounting. However, the problem that I ran in to was setting my accounts up. I have several different debts (student loans), and several different investments (401K, personal investments), as well as the balances in my checking and savings accounts. I just couldn't figure out how to reasonably set up my initial finances, let alone creating special accounts for things like payroll and taxes. I have a degree in Mathematics, but GNUCash tries to be a serious accounting program. Quicken and the like are different, and single entry accounting is much easier for a beginner to use. Apparently it is much easier to lie, cheat, and make mistakes with single accounting systems.
I finally settled on just keeping a sort of ledger. Pen and paper. I track spending in my budget with it, my current checking account levels, and I update the value of my savings and investments from time to time. It serves me well and keeps my finances on track, which is all I really need. It is also very portable, which makes it easier to account for things like grocery bills and ATM withdrawls.
What GNUCash really needs is a _good_ step by step tutorial on how to set the software up, and I'm not refering to the
The middle mind speaks!
OFX seems like a good offering, but problematic. Why not offer users a choice of how to sync their data with financial institutions?
It wouldn't be too difficult to simulate a user logging in and screen scape the needed data. It's be pretty easy to do in Perl actually, where there are already a ton of moudules doing some similiar. Granted it's a bit hackey, but for cases where the FI won't cooperate with the Gnucash project and set up OFX, it's preferable to having nothing.
The Gnucash project is also in a good position to define an abstract class for how the interface to each institution should work. Then different programmers could go about implementing that class for different institutions. (Much like how DBI or ODBC establishes an generic database interface each database drivers handles the specific for each type of db.)
Anyway, my two cents.
-Bill
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If you have WINE that indicates that you have a Windows license. Why not just use a dual boot with Windoze? Agreed, Micro$oft is highly evil and Linux should be used in most cases, but this is just one case where it makes more sense to use Windows than Linux. When you have specialty software that is high quality and the vendors aren't informed enough to port their programs to real OS's, if you want the software you should use the OS.
Better yet, vote with your money. Don't buy Quicken, because it only works on a crappy OS.
MS Money works via Wine also. It is not the best, but it does work. GnuCash still needs refinement. You'd think Intuit would release a Linux version of Quicken.
I download all of my financial data and import it into Gnucash without any problems, using that broken Quicken format (QIF). Granted, it takes *two whole steps*: 1) download, 2) import.
Maybe I'm just lucky, though.
-Paul Komarek
Quickbooks does corporate/business accounting. If you want double-entry accounting, buy Quickbooks. You don't need the Pro version for real estate and most small businesses.
Has that changed in the last few years? ISTR my CPA sister ranting about people who used Quickbooks (not merely Quicken, definitely Quickbooks) instead of a real double-entry system like Peachtree.
Slashdot's token middle-aged housewife
The real expertise in a program like quicken is not on the programming end. Balancing books is a pretty trivial algorithm.
Where the real value of Quicken lies in the financial and legal expertise that it describes. For this they need the expertise of accountants and lawyers and economists etc..
If you want to develop a good open-source personal finance program, you need to find some good accountants (and tax lawyers, and financial advisers, etc) to help out in distilling their expertise, working with the programmers.
And because laws and finance are such ever-changing areas, especially at the margins, constant updating is necessary.
One big hurdle with open-source financial programs (please keep responding flames articulate) is a lack of accountability as well. When I buy turbotax, I know there is a company behind it that must take some responsibility with the program. Just for that reason, a good lawyer or accountant may be hesitant to contribute on open-source. If the software fucks up, he may be professionally liable.
I do wish at least a polished proprietary financial and tax software were available on Linux. My guess is that Linux just doesn't have the market penetration yet to justify the port.
Because of the need for updates, I even think that proprietary software might have some viability on a limited, non-transfereable, open source basis.
I haven't tried gnucash, but if intuit came out with quicken and turbotax for Linux, I would be one step closer to wiping my windows partition. Incidentally, I still wouldn't buy the linux version right away, because I still need the windows partition for other things, and my windows quicken works fine.
evanchik.net
If you're going to go the rich dad - poor dad route of accounting, you'll probably have to go single-entry cash basis accounting.
On the bright side, get an accounting package worked up that will handle stuff the same way, and Kiosaki would probably be willing to cross license their name and marketing power with your program.
Matter of fact, shouldn't be too hard to tweak double entry book keeping to do the same. Have to think about it some more.
hanzie
********* sig: If you don't like the law, get filthy stinking rich, and buy a better one.
because it's not really said by Voltaire. I put his name regardlessly but I got bashed, so I took it out. I don't have the link for this piece of information for the moment, but you can do a google search for it. You'll be amazed how many words has been put on Voltaire's mouth by someone else. :)
hawk
If his friend agreed to pay $10,000 for the car in the near future, the car is a $10,000 asset.
Due to some sort of brain damage, www.ofx.net returns a redirect to "http://ofx/default.asp". On some browsers (Galeon, in this case), this ends up going to www.ofx.com instead. Until the OFX website fixes that link, try this one...
Deven
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
I run Quicken 2000 under Wine. I do not use the Internet features. They require installation of real IE and the install program for that doesn't work under Wine. I run Quicken on a wine-only (no real Windows software installed at all) setup. There a problems with some dialog boxes because of font mapping problems. You can set fonts in the wine config file, but I haven't bothered. An AC seemed to think you were asking about QuickBooks (QB), but QB is not Quicken.
Quicken 2000 probably runs perfectly under Wine if you have real Windows DLLs. Since real Windows DLLs means you really have Windows, you may as well run it under Windows instead of making yourself crazy.
Wine is getting better and more solid literally every day. I use anonymous CVS and update it every few days.
So, if you must have Quicken and must not have Windows, you can run it under wine, but it doesn't run everything, and it doesn't run perfectly. If you really need it all, you're stuck with Windows.
I actually uninstalled the most recent version of Quicken. Up until this last year they had my business as I would purchase a copy of Quicken Deluxe with Turbotax Deluxe so I could do my taxes. I was burned on the fact that I *had* to register for a Quicken.com account so that I could download stockquotes etc, to keep my 401(k) and investments up to date, despite the fact that I didn't need to in the previous years version. I sent a couple bitchy emails to Quicken, but am certain that I got ignored. I'm tempted to backtrack to Quicken 98 or 99 because that was before they integrated IE, which does seem to have slowed it does seriously.
I use Quicken Deluxe 99 every week with Wine. It works fine (except for printing; I've not got that working yet).
I use the CodeWeavers Red Carpet release on my RedHat 7.1 machine (obviously, uses the Ximian Gnome desktop). I *have* had problems in the past with it not working well, but since I got the Red Carpet build it's been excellent, not a single crash.
Oh My Lord, they charge for software? whatm next, cats and dogs sleeping together?! ahhhh.
sheesh.
But hey, you got to stick to your principles.
Or do you?
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
I wisj I had a nickle for every person who thinks there opinion is better because they happened to be doing something sooner.
My user number is lower so I know what I'm doing attitude is really crappy, its right up there with "I've been playing DnD for 26 year, so you better listen to me".
It reminds me of a line from "Better off dead":
"I've been going to this high school for 5 years, and I'm no dummy"
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on