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Nintendo Drops GameCube Price to $150
DarkZero writes: "According to Planet Gamecube, Nintendo, as was expected, has dropped the price of the GameCube to $150. As the consoles currently stand, the GameCube is $50 cheaper than both the X-Box and the PS2, letting it retain half of its price edge on its competitors. Neither Sony nor Microsoft has commented on it yet, but Microsoft might decide to lower the price of the X-Box a little bit more in retaliation. Yay, competitive pricing!"
MS might just be totally confused! "You mean we have to lower our prices to sell stuff?"
Man, as Tycho of Penny Arcade put it, "It's on. This is that Clash of the Titans s**t."
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This is how capitalism should work! Competitive pricing is great for all involved: the consumer gets the best possible deal for the product, while the manufacturer is rewarded with high sales for their product. It also encourages companies to create products that satisfy the consumer's needs(aka - what the buyer wants).
Way to go!
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All this "console war" is great, but still can't afford 60+ for a game that's going to last me less than a week.
What you don't realise, nintendo has a nice chunk of change stored up as well... seeing as they own Pokemon which is what helped them through the N64, and they have been making money from their Cubes since day 1. Nintendo isn't going to be pushed out of the hardware market any time soon.
Blink
"Microsoft might decide to lower the price of the X-Box a little bit more in retaliation. Yay, competitive pricing!"
I have to admit that I highly doubt it... I'm sure microsoft set their current price-drop in line with expecting Nintendo to drop theirs to their current mark.
As far as I know, Gamecube can't play DVD's either, correct? That's an awesome value-added feature. I was on the verge of buying a DVD player myself as well, but ended up just picking up a playstation 2 and killing 2 birds with one stone.
X-Box plays DVD's as well, right? I think the $50 difference is reasonable.
They are already losing lots of money selling xbox the price it is today, why dont MS give theyre xbox away for free? :))
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I guess nobody told them big-boxers (nor their customers) that the price has been cut. They were both selling PS2 systems for $299 without any included games in Rochester, NY, USA.
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API newswire May 20, 2002 10:02 AM
Richard Head reporting from redmond WA...
Microsoft Announces Xbox Bundle to Compete with Console pricewars.
Microsoft this morning in a retalitaory move against Nintendo and Sony's attempts to undermine the sales of the Xbox has announced that they will not be lowering the price of the Xbox but will in fact be bundling it with several high quality applications.
Steve Ballmer in a private interview said, "The public has been clamoring for a killer app for the Xbox and we have decided to give it to them. As of today we will be selling Xboxes with free copies of Microsoft BOB for their PC and a special ported version of BOB for the Xbox. we are confident that this will crust the competition."
Sony and Nintendo represenatives were unavailable for comment.
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> That's low enough for me! I'm off to get my
> GameCube. Really, that's about as much as I'm
> willing to pay for a non-upgradable piece of
> hardware that will be obsolete in a year...
You mean something that's usually non-upgradable and obsolete in a year like, ohh, a video card for a PC? Some of the fancier graphics cards cost more than a console!
Unless things get *really* lousy in the console market, video game consoles have a staying power greater than a year. Even the *Dreamcast* was around longer than a year!
Consider the Playstation. There are still games being released for that old beast.
-- Rick
It may seem childish, but Super Monkey Ball is one of the best games I have ever played, and it is so simple to play that my Dad (who cannot use a web browser) was teaching my 70 year old great Aunt and Uncle to play...
Most of the games in it have two buttons. Move & Do. And the main game only has one of those. The main game plays kinda like Marble Madness, but a lot more fun.
Plus, It is funny as hell to watch drunk or stoned people play.
...to match their competitor they nearly drove Netscape out of business.
Just a thought...
As much as competitive pricing is a good thing, I hope there's some margin left at the end of the day or this market will turn into a winner take all for whoever's got the motivation and money to stick it out.
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Microsoft and Sony will use their cash to push Nintendo out of the hardware market.
It's not quite that easy -- Nintendo also has tons of cash, because of the success of the GB/GBA; they're actually quite good at making money, even if they lag a bit in the hype department. Microsoft could probably do it if they bled money like mad for a long time, but I'm not sure even MS is that crazy.
All the players in this war are strong, and I think they're all in it for the long haul. And remember, Nintendo, unlike MS & Sony, doesn't do anything else except games -- they can't afford to lose.
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Yet More proof (asif we needed anymore) that competition _WORKS_
Imagine, just imagine, if the OS market was like this. i CRINGE to think about how good our operating systems would be (think VR, 3d Interfaces that are common, everything you'd want from an OS)
sigh. I wish it really was the OS market.
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Nintendo can sell the cube at a profit forever. MS may have to always lose money selling. So Nintendo may not -ever- be the best selling console maker, but they`ll be making more out of each console, and will be able to develop future consoles. How long will MS be happy to sell at a loss? Perhaps the Xbox 2 will be not quite as good as its competitors, but will make MS a lot more money?
On a different note, with the whole PS2/Linux thing, is their any possibility of seeing emulators (2600, NES, SNES, Genesis) comig out for it?
Someone should bring this up in all the little court cases Microsoft is having right now. Pricing, innovation, quick to market, online services...when was the last time you saw microsoft work this hard to get market share? Seems to me, the layman, that this competition thing makes them work a bit harder, get product out a bit faster, and make something worlth having. Then again, it might just be a cheaper piece of shit with one good game. At least with other products on the market I can pay 1/3 less for that pos.
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If you don't even know what games there are for the system, how can you know what system you are going to buy? It's all in the games, man.
If price is your main criteria, I've got a nice 1st generation nintendo system you might be interested in. Or maybe this used Playstation sitting over here.
The games are the main thing you should determine the games system on.
-Dubya
Smash bros. That's all you need to know. On the surface it's a crappy game for kids, but a bunch of mates and a slab makes for a fun night on the nintendo.
Send lawyers, guns, and money!
Ever since the launch in Britain, the Game Cube has been priced at 129 UKP, which is about 188 USD.
Given the historical trend of consoles costing more here in Britain than in the US, I think this is more of a price re-alignment than a cut.
Less widely reported, but of interest to people looking for a cheap gaming experience, Sony dropped the UK price of the PSOne to 49 UKP, did something similar happen in the US?
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Sony (holding royal flush): I raise you $1.
Nintendo (holding 4 aces): I'll see your $1 and raise you $2:
MS (holding jack-squat): I'll see your $2 and raise you A MILLION BILLION DOLLARS.
Sony: Fold.
Nintendo: Fold.
MS: Mwahahahahahaha.
The price drop by Nintendo on the GameCube was expected. Do you think Nintendo was going to keep the price at US$199 when PlayStation 2 and XBox now sport the same price?
Besides, Nintendo's greatest strength is its own internal software development group. There are a big number of potentially great games coming out for GameCube from Nintendo coming out later this year that will really drive GameCube sales.
Get Resident Evil. You'll get houuurs of game play, scared every now and then, and amazingly cool graphics (the realtime models and lighting effects within this game are nothing short of awesome).
You might also want to check out Star Wars Rogue Leader, Tony Hawk 3, 007, Spider Man (goofy camera controls though), and Pikmin.
A lot of folks seem to like Super Smash Bros as well... but that game was a bit too much for me. Too many colors and flashing lights.
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By opening the packaging that contains this X-Box, the user agrees that he or she will not purchase a competing console, play games on a friend's competing console, or even look for more than five seconds at a competing console when walking through a store. Furthermore, by plugging in the Microsoft X-Box, the user consents to any and all changes that the Microsoft X-Box may implement in the user's household, including the notification of Microsoft corporate headquarters in the event that a competing console is detected in the household, and the neurological reprogramming of any of the user's offspring to become better Microsoft customers.
That ought to help good ol' MS take its rightful place in our homes and lives.
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I think I'm gonna wait for the SGCA. It will probably have A DVD/CD/MP3/OGG/WMA/etc. player plus built in PS2/XBox firmware emulation so you can play all of your titles. The graphics will be handled by Matrox's new G1000 series GPU and the unit will also double as a maid/butler when you're not searching for Rupes and fighting Gandolf.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
Instead of lowering the price on the XBOX, Microsoft could bundle in their dvd kit at the current $199 price for value added competition instead of direct price competition. It would be a smart move for Microsoft because 1) producing that kit is probably cheaper than lowering the price of the xbox $50, 2) it provides a great advertisement angle--"More raw power than Gamecube and a FREE DVD Player!", and 3) people are suckers for 'free' stuff and value added items.
Because the price gap between the Xbox and Gamecube is now just $50 dollars, I think consumers on the fence will be looking beyond just the price and more towards the things the consoles can do. And with the DVD kit, the Xbox wins the features competition, not necessarily because people would actually use the DVD features; but just because people like a bargain.
They all do! (grin)
1) Ask for refund of $50 + tax.
2) Be denied.
3) Say, "I'd like to return my [PS2|Xbox], it doesn't work with my TV."
4) Recieve money
5) Turn right around and re-buy a PS2 at discounted cost, making sure refund-denier observes said activity.
6) Cease purchasing from location.
Simple!
Brandon
I already have both of them, thank you. :)
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Is this how things in the technology world work when one of the players doesn't hold a monopoly and everybody plays fair? I wish it worked like that in the PC business...
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If one player has a royal flush, the other player cannot have 4 aces.
So although a royal flush is considered the "highest" hand, 4 aces is effectively just as high since they can't exist at the same time.
The GC should be cheaper than the XBox. The GC has no DVD support, no HD, no Ethernet port, no high definition support (other than 480p) and no Dolby Digital support.
The only thing it has is Nintendo's games, which still aren't shipping.
Nintendo's in the hardware market for good - they know the rules (hell, they made the rules). Microsoft is the one in trouble - they're losing major cash at $199 - another price cut would make the Xbox a major drain. Add that to the fact that there aren't any really stellar Xbox games other than Halo and you've got a next-gen Dreamcast wannabe...
Check Out Penny Arcade's take on this.
Karnal
Remember that the $49 is without sales tax.
once you take off the VAT from the UK price, it comes out as about $58.
Let's not forget that Nintendo is also quite good at making GAMES, which is the whole point of this business. Who cares which hardware is better, which system has the best GAMES?
M$: Halo. I dare you to pick another exclusive X-Box must-have currently on the shelf.
Sony: GTA3, Maximo (maybe), Metal Gear Solid 2. I'm not much of a PS fan, so it's hard to say what's good out there right now.
Nintendo: Star Wars: Rogue Leader, Wave Race, and let's not discount Mario, Zelda, and Metroid which are all on the schedule. Of course there's also Pokemon (for the kiddies), the Sega exclusives (ie: Sonic), and then the Rare games...I could go on and on.
You get the point. Nintendo is never going to lose. They have a core market which will keep them in business for a long time. Not to mention the European launch: 400,000 units sold through in 3 weeks. Wow.
you forgot my favorite resource gamefaqs. the top ten message boards almost always has at least three of the 'must have' games for any console.
to save people some time though:
1. Resident Evil
2. Super Smash Bros. Melee
3. WWE Wrestlemania X8
4. Star Wars: Rogue Leader- Rogue Squadron 2
5. Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
6. Legend of Zelda
7. Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II
8. Mario Sunshine
9. Spider-Man: The Movie
10. Bloody Roar: Primal Fury
GameCube has some good titles, and unlike the dreamcast there isn't a chance in hell that the Big N will drop development, anytime soon.
Although if the PS2 is $199 as the article implies, it's better short term, as many good GC games won't be hitting shelves until christmas.
Besides, they've finally got a good modchip (daughter-card) for the PS2 v5 or v6 boards here
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special liscensing where you can get it's system for half price... but with this plan you have to pay it for all the game systems in your house, whether or not you own them.
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The Playstation 1 hardware has been "obsolete" for several years, and I still use it regularly (though the particular PS1 hardware I'm using it built into my PS2...the games are what matters).
You want to talk about obsolete within a year, PC hardware is by far the worst offender in this case. I basically biult a new 1Ghz system about a year ago, maybe a little more, and while it wasn't state of the art, it was still up there. Now it's half as powerful as what I could get now, for less than what I paid for the 1Ghz chip and motherboard back then. Nevermind the fact that there have been _2_ new top-of-the-line nVidia graphics cards released since I built this computer. Consoles are bargains in comparison.
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*COMPETITION* works. Which is why Microsoft needs to be dealt with in the OS market because right now the consumer has no *CHOICES*.
He or she cannot decide between more than TWO desktop OSes right now; Mac OS X and Windows (XP, 2000, etc), and then there's the fact that a Mac will cost about $1500 to the PC's $900...
So if you like pricing, innovation, quick to market, etc... you too should support *some* kind of action to restore competition in all the markets Microsoft has a monopoly over.
GPL Deconstructed
If the PS1 is obsolete, then why are there still games coming out for it?
I don't suppose these are monopolistic practices since neither Sony nor Sega controls the gaming industry by themselves. Together they are evidently quite a force. BTW, I'm not commenting on the legality of such moves as IANAL. Although I do find it interesting when:
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Let's not forget that Nintendo is also quite good at making GAMES, which is the whole point of this business. Who cares which hardware is better, which system has the best GAMES?
Exactly! Give the man a goddamn prize!
I've got a coworker who's got an Xbox, and keeps telling me about the specifications of the thing. I keep asking him, "So what games can I get on it now?"
"Get Halo!"
"And?"
"And... NHL 2002?"
I'll probably get a PS2 first (DVD and games together, so I can finally ditch Windows), but the Cube is cheap enough that I could probably get both now. Super Smash Brothers rocks my world.
And on a side note, I always thought it would be a cold day in hell when a Sonic game was available on a Nintendo system. I'm starting to feel my age. :)
Most people's opinions of consoles after a purchase depend almost completely on what games they bought. Most people with a gamecube purchased Star Wars: Rogue Leader and maybe Waverace or something to that effect, perhaps with no extra controllers.
To me, buying a good game library is like designing a game (but with far fewer decisions): you need to have a cohesive strategy, or else you risk having a boring console. For me, it was multiplayer gaming. Satisfied, I am.
If anyone thinks that Nintendo's laid it's cards out on the table, I think they're gonna be surprised. The future shows a lot of interesting things: Mario Party 4, a new Mario Kart, a new Zelda game, a new Starfox game in the vein of Zelda64, something from Squaresoft in the way of Final Fantasy, Super Mario Sunshine, Bomberman (this month), more Resident Evil games from Capcom, Mario Golf/Tennis and of course, Metroid Prime, which is being developed by a friend of mine who is nothing more than completely convinced that it's going to be the game of the year.
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now costs less than some PS2 games?
:)
There are several things that make a console:
Good price (check! Cheaper than a GBA)
Good software (check! Fun games, both old *and* new)
Good availability (check! The old PSX library plus PS2's PSX compatibility means lots of games available)
Graphics and sound are not enough for a good game experience
GPL Deconstructed
Right on --
I have a PS2, cause, you know, final fantasy, but when it came time to decide whether to get a box or a cube, i looked things up and down, and the fact of the matter is, i *will* play zelda, and i *will* play mario. Call me a fanboy, or just call me a guy who loves quality games, but the fact is that N's franchises guarantee it a spot at the table. Crappy release schedules and the occasional feeling that nintendo thinks i'm 12 years old aside, there will always be three or four games a year that i absolutely *must* play which are nintendo exclusives.
As for MS, there's halo, and....halo. And since i finished that, it's only good for multiplayer, in which case MS has sold one box to four guys. That's a lousy model.
Add to that the fact that parents know it and love it, and in many households, they're buying the games, and nintendo's not getting forced out by anyone.
god is just pretend.
Microsoft and Sony will use their cash to push Nintendo out of the hardware market.
From CNET Article: "Nintendo, which launched GameCube last November, has shipped more than 4.5 million systems worldwide."
Oh yeah they're gonna get pushed right out with numbers like that! And don't forget, as others have said, Nintendo has Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, and Gameboy. They ain't goin' nowhere!
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Nintendo can sell the cube at a profit forever.
Actually, Nintendo was losing money on each GameCube sale when it was at $200. With no new manufacturing changes and a new price drop, they are now losing at least $60-$80 on each GameCube sale, if not much more.
Nintendo is selling a console at a loss for the first time. The only one that's actually making money on each console sale is Sony, because they make their own hardware instead of buying parts from third parties.
excuse me, but didn't those companies first sold their console at .. what, 600$? As a non-customer, I repeat to myself that they probably wanted to screw me up - because they wanted to make me pay for something that today has a value of 1/3 or less.
So they were screwing me 3 times.
No way I'm gonna trust them. If someone screws you once, it can do it again.
Oh well, probably this is easier to me since I don't like consoles. But still, does anyone else with a brain noticed that?
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With a 24-month commitment to MSN dial-up access. Although you have to pay taxes, and be stuck with a crappy MSN dialup for 24-months.
At least they've got $200 off deals with major retailers like BestBuy. (I just got an offer in the mail last week, BTW)
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Nintendo has never lost money on the Cube. MS was estimated to be losing $60-$80 per system at launch -- it's anybody's guess how much they are losing now, with (presumably) reduced manufacturing cost fighting against a $100 price drop.
And, while I don't have figures for Sony, I believe you're mistaken about them as well. They were certainly losing money on the PS2 at launch time, they may well be again after the $100 drop.
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> Am I the only one not blinding by the horrible
:)
> quality of the Playstation?
Apparently, you're blinded by *something*...
> The only benefit the thing had in it's time was
> the storage medium allowing tons of crap to be
> stuck on a CD.
You're surely thinking of the SegaCD, which was probably the pioneer of "stick a bunch of junk on a CD-ROM and sell it". Granted, the SegaCD had a few good games (Lunar, Lunar:EB, Snatcher, etc.), but much of what was released for that system was FMV garbage.
The nice thing about the Playstation was that it had a whole lot of games that *weren't* just "shovel junk onto a CD". Ridge Racer, Tekken, Raiden Project, Namco Museum, etc. (to name a few of the earlier titles).
> If Nintendo wasn't so strict with its
> blood/gore/mature rating crap...
Ahh yes, Nintendo. Nintendo wasn't *any* competition to the Playstation {Remember - Nintendo's then-current console was the SNES) until the N64 came out - which was long after the Playstation hit critical mass. And then the N64 came, with its very limited group of expensive (compared to Playstaiton) first-run titles - of which about the only hit was Mario 64. No wonder the Playstation dominated!
-- Rick
Most of the HDTVs I've seen have more than one set of component in jacks, usually at least two. In any case, there are switch boxes for this, but they're pretty expensive. I wouldn't bother with component input from consoles to TV tho. The advantages compared to S-Video aren't that apparent to me especially if you're playing on a regular TV.
At $150, I might actually buy one for the kids (aged 6 and 3). I'm thinking Santa might put one under the tree; any suggestions as to which console, taking into account the age of the kid and the fact that we have more computers in our household than people already?
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Obsolete
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Date: 1579
1 a : no longer in use or no longer useful
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That doesn't seem to apply to the Playstation.
Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes. --E. W. Dijkstra
That is a foolish statement if I ever heard one.
Nintendo has been in business longer than Sony and Microsoft combined, started in 1889
Nintendo has two painfully profitable cards in it's hand, Poke'mon and the Game Boy series. The gameboy, by the way, is the best selling console in history, and the GBA's compatibility with the Gamecube along with it's excellent hardware and large set of successful games from the SNES ready to be ported in addition to new games isn't going to hurt it any.
Then consider their other franchises. Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc. These are some of the most profitable franchises of ANY company, and for good reason. Anyone who contests the creative genius that has gone into any in those series is a bitter, blind fan of mindless action games. Even if you didn't like, say, Mario64, you have to admit that it had easily some of the most creative web design ever to exist, even today.
It was said during the peak of the Sega Genesis that Sega would take over the market and Nintendo would die. Now Sega is Nintendo's bitch making games for their former competitor's consoles.
Even the Playstation, Sony's ultra successful system, was a spawn of Nintendo as it is based on the SNES CD-ROM drive that Nintendo never released after they saw how useless it was for Sega.
Don't count them out because of their lack of hype. Hype costs money, and while Sony and MS are quietly spending millions in a war, Nintendo is in the background raking in the dough.
Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes. --E. W. Dijkstra
I hope this doesn't hurt Nintendo by altering mass-market perception into thinking that by offering a cheaper product, it is inferior to the PS2 and X-Box.
Pssst...here's a hint. The Gamecube was priced at $199 for many months while the XBox and PS2 were priced at $299. Do you think that the $100 price difference hurt them then? If not (you bought one, obviously), then why would you think that a $50 price difference would hurt them now?
"Numbers like that".
Hmmm. Seems to me that I remember the Dreamcast selling nearly 8 million consoles in the Western hemisphere and look at where Sega is now!
Oh, wait...
I wish I had a kryptonite cross, because then you could keep Dracula and Superman away.
Not to mention the fact that the GBA will play all existing Gameboy Games.
I wish I had a kryptonite cross, because then you could keep Dracula and Superman away.
Screw Microsoft - buy the X-Box
Not really, think of it this way:
Scenario 1 - MS spends $389 to build an Xbox. You buy it for $199. MS loses $190 on the sale, but makes a few bucks for each game you buy and their relative marketshare goes up a blip.
Scenario 2 - MS spends $389 to build an Xbox. You don't buy it, instead buying a Gamecube or PS2. MS loses $389 on making the Xbox, doesn't get any cut of the games you buy, and their relative marketshare goes down a blip.
Now explain to me how buying an Xbox is screwing Microsoft.
Well, that's a new one on me, because Peter Main, Nintendo's Vice President of Marketing and Sales, admitted last year that "We expect to incur a small loss on the GameCube hardware initially, and you're right that it hasn't been our habit in the past but we expect it to turn okay early next year." The year isn't even half over and the GameCube is already slashing its price by one fourth, which I would estimate is the profit margin. So it seems that Mr. Harrison, a Nintendo "marketing executive" (his position is not stated) is claiming that Nintendo learned over the course of the last few months how to make their manufacturing process roughly 20-25% more efficient than they expected they would be at this time, putting their improved efficiency since November at about 35-40%. That's quite a claim, especially for someone that also claims that Nintendo had been planning a price cut all along and that they were apparently just lying when they said that they had no plans to do so roughly a week ago.
Also, Acts of Gord has a pretty good explanation of why the PS2 is actually profiting from its sales. The math works out, but what really sells it is the simple explanation that Sony is a hardware company, rather than a video game company that's buying off-the-shelf or proprietary parts from third party vendors. Hardware costs much, much less when you make it yourself.
this is the price I will pay for a console. I'm sorry I'm not shoveling out over 300 dollars for a toy. 150 sure. but not 300.
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A bit of revision going on there; Netscape never gave away Navigator until Microsoft made IE free. There was a gratis download for the education market, but you still had to pay for the browser otherwise.
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I've never understood this argument. People are willing to pay roughly $40 CND/$30 USD for a DVD that is two hours long, but they think that $80 CND/$60 USD (again, roughly) for a game that's ten to twenty hours long, such as Ico, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid 2, or Resident Evil, is a rip off.
If you're willing to pay $40 CND for two hours of entertainment, why aren't you willing to pay twice as much for five to ten times as much entertainment time?