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New Internet2 Land Speed Record

SquadBoy writes "An international team set a new record for Internet performance by transferring the equivalent of an entire compact disc's contents across more than 7608 miles (12,272 km) of network in 13 seconds. The rate of 401 megabits per second achieved in transferring 625 megabytes of data from Fairbanks, Alaska to Amsterdam in the Netherlands is over 8000 times greater than the fastest dial-up modem."

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  1. that's fast by Kargan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If I'm not mistaken, that's approximately as fast as a 7200rpm ATA/66 drive can transfer data, say, to another partition on the same drive, or what have you.

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    1. Re:that's fast by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 4, Informative

      err... no it isn't. My little G4's internal SCSI array reads at sustd/peak 78/286 writes at 76/92. That's MB/sec so we're talking IRO R >600/>2200 W >600/>700. And this little array's nothing special, just a pair of Fujitsu MAJ's at 10K rpm with 4MB cache each on an ATTO UL3D twin channel host controller. Cost around a grand to install is all - there are WAY faster drives than those available now - awesome 15k rpm beasts than can top 60MB/sec sustained...

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  2. In other news... by dada21 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The RIAA and MPAA have both come out proclaiming Hayes' new 4800 baud modem with MNP5 as the best connection system possible, and are subsidizing the conversion from broadband to these hardware devices with a $50 rebate until the end of the year.

  3. It has to be said... by bravehamster · · Score: 5, Funny
    747 chock full o' DVD's can beat that any day of the week. That includes a 4 hour layover in Osaka.

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    1. Re:It has to be said... by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Andrew Tannenbaum put it best with, "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway."

    2. Re:It has to be said... by AaronStJ · · Score: 3, Informative
      Andrew Tannenbaum put it best with, "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway."
      This math is not done by me, but by Bonboard on Everything2 (search "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of quarter-inch tapes"):
      13 Petabytes per second.

      For comparison purposes, this is equivalent to about 650 strands of perfectly saturated, single-mode fiber optic cable.

      This figure will, of course, vary depending on a number of factors. In order to compensate for your own rate of travel and storage media, simply fill in the blanks below to get your tally! It's fun for kids of all ages!
      BW = (( WV / (TW * TL * TH ) ) * TC * WS / WL) , where

      BW = bandwidth in bytes / second
      WV = the volume of your station wagon, in cubic meters
      TW = the width of each individual quarter-inch tape, in meters
      TL = the length of each individual quarter-inch tape, in meters
      TH = the height of each individual quarter-inch tape, in meters
      TC = the capacity of each individual quarter-inch tape, in bytes
      WS = the speed of your station wagon, in meters/sec
      WL = the length of your station wagon, in meters

      This figure assumes average instantaneous bandwidth down the length of the wagon; in reality, I would assume that the bulk of the data transfer would occur in the region nearest the trunk.
      To get my figure, simply plug in: WV = 2.72, TW = 0.054, TL = 0.073, TH = 0.0105, TC = 35.0 * 10 ^ 9, WS = 26.8, WL = 4.75. These numbers are meant to describe a stuffed 2001 Subaru Outback doing 60MPH using 35GiB tapes of this form factor.
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    3. Re:It has to be said... by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, but GODDAMN at the FUCKIN' LAG

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  4. Obligatory Simpsons Quote: by Navius+Eurisko · · Score: 5, Funny

    Marge: "Does anyone need that much porn?"

    Homer (drooling): "One million times faster...."

  5. Darn... by errorlevel · · Score: 4, Funny

    Suddenly my DSL no longer seems fast enough.

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  6. Ping rate? by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 4, Insightful

    401 Mb/s is great, but what sort of ping rates were they getting?

    1. Re:Ping rate? by edrugtrader · · Score: 5, Funny

      lets just say you've lost before your computer even boots up

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  7. It will never help me. by fmaxwell · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Some day, I'll have that kind of bandwidth running to my home. And my ISP will still disallow my personal telnet server because of the strain it will put on the network.

  8. wow by teslatug · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally finding the pr0n becomes the bottle-neck.

    Pr0n jokes are obligatory for this kind of story, read the manual.

  9. at the RIAA headquaters... by DanThe1Man · · Score: 5, Funny

    News of faster internet made HIllary Rosen faint.

    Someone shouted, "quick get some smelling salts".
    Someone else said, "Here, use this sharpie marker."

  10. Land Speed Record by yobbo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Amsterdam and Alaska are separated by water, so I don't see how this can be a new land speed record, unless Jesus is involved.

  11. LOC? by sean23007 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, but how many Libraries of Congress is that? Until they release their accomplishment in Libraries-of-Congress-per-second, it means absolutely nothing to me, or anyone else. Right?

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  12. Compression and such.. by wbav · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This article, I feel is more than a little vauge. What did they use to transfer? Was it just over electrical/telephone lines, or did they use optics? What kind of compression was used, and what kind of signal boosters/optical repeaters were used in sending this. All of these items could be used to affect the speed of transfer, and well, the article just doesn't say. I mean in theory, one could build a router from parallel to serial that could take data at 9.6 terabits/sec. How are they actually measuring things? Just the time between there and here? Using full optical lines, wouldn't they be able to set the record at c * the index of refraction of the fiberoptic line? It would just be a matter of putting all the data into one block of light.

    Also the article suggested only one way communication, what happens with error checking and such?

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    1. Re:Compression and such.. by mindstrm · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You are speaking theoretically.

      Yes, you could send data much faster than this over fiber. We do it in labs all the time. HEck, we do it in networks over copper all the time (GigE..)

      This is an actual working network, and they send the data from Alaska to The Netherlands at 400mbps. That is fantastic.

  13. Statistics Schmastics by aengblom · · Score: 5, Funny

    is over 8000 times greater than the fastest dial-up modem

    I just LOVE sem-relevant comparisons! ;-). And the fastest car on earth goes 8000 times faster than I crawl! Next time let's compare it to at least DSL!

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  14. So... there is already a new by JFMulder · · Score: 5, Funny

    Napster on Internet 2? Damn these guys are quick!!!

  15. From the Article by Quizme2000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Debian Woody in less than two minutes"

    Any woman will tell you waiting more than 90 seconds for a "Debian Woody" is unacceptable. My personal best is nearly 1/3 of that.

    Its a joke..get it? No...RTFM

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  16. Old news! by chuckcolby · · Score: 5, Funny

    They actually had it ready 2 weeks ago, but were unable to transfer the cd until they used a felt tip marker around the edge.

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  17. Re:Does Internet2 use standard IPv6? by perky · · Score: 4, Informative
    Does Internet2 use standard IPv6?
    http://www.internet2.edu


    Why is a seperated network?

    You think they are going to spend all that money on a serious research network only to let Joe Public use al, the bandwidth on pr0n?

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  18. Re:Internet2 by FyRE666 · · Score: 4, Funny


    Take a notice, that Internet2 project is right now only for universities and big companys... And right now - for testing pourpourses only...

    Which examination are the pourpourses taking?

    Good luck to all the pourpourses out there!!

  19. Bandwidth Challenge SC2001 by anzha · · Score: 3, Informative

    Every year there is a competition at the high performance conference (Supercomputing 2001 was this last one). It is entitled the 'Bandwidth Challenge'. This last year, NERSC took first place with a 3.3 gigabit/second sustained graphically represented simulation using seaborg.

    Now, admittedly, it wasn't intercontinental, only from Oakland, Ca to Denver, Co....:D

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  20. I work there and... by RumGunner · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't think anybody at the University of Alaska-Fairbanks even knew this was happening. I think those crazy Dutch just slurped down the image from our local linux mirror (which is maintained by our LUG).

    It seems sort of bad form. The mirror is there for everyone, but bandwidth for the sake of bandwidth....

    And now of course, EVERYONE will start trying to see how fast they can suck down our bandwidth. I bet my internet connection at work is terrible tomorrow.

  21. The guy that got sacked (again) by reality-bytes · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does anybody remember this urban legend?

    There was a IT engineer based in London who was sacked because he couldn't get the ping rate between the London and N.Y.C. corporate offices below 20ms.......His boss didn't see the "speed of light" as a valid excuse!!

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  22. good prices on workshops by Moosifer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Internet2 page has some events and workshops that look like they might be really good deals. I registered for the IPV6 3 day workshop at the University of Utah for only $100.00 - as long as it doesn't suck, that should be money well spent.

  23. Some Calculations by Traa · · Score: 3, Informative

    The transfer rate of the new records calculates as follows: 625MB over 12,272km in 13 seconds = 590000 MB*Km/s = 0.590 TB*Km/s

    When I drive home from work in a few minutes: 125TB (10^15 Synapses, Von Neumann et al.) at 85 Mph during rush hour (yeah, that manic...it's me) = 4.7 Tb*Km/s

    The Boing full of DVD's calculates as follows: 4.7GB * 170.5 Cubic meters cargo space / 175 Cubic cm jewel case * 912 Km/h = 662,515Gb * 0.25Km/s = 1160 TB*Km/s

  24. Even faster records: HDTV at 1.5Gbs by kalgen · · Score: 3, Informative

    The University of Washington has transmitted 1.5Gbps of HDTV across the country. I guess the new thing here is the intercontinental aspect. Here for the UW press release.

  25. All joking aside.. by SideshowBob · · Score: 3, Interesting

    pr0n jokes aside :-)

    They really shouldn't be building up expectations in people's minds that "Internet2" is going to make things faster for them.

    These types of stories eventually wind up in the Tech section of the local newspapers etc. and its A Bad Thing TM to build up mis-perceptions.

    Internet2 is not going to solve last mile bandwidth limitations.