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New Internet2 Land Speed Record
SquadBoy writes "An international team set a new record for Internet performance by transferring the equivalent of an entire compact disc's contents across more than 7608 miles (12,272 km) of network in 13 seconds. The rate of 401 megabits per second achieved in transferring 625 megabytes of data from Fairbanks, Alaska to Amsterdam in the Netherlands is over 8000 times greater than the fastest dial-up modem."
If I'm not mistaken, that's approximately as fast as a 7200rpm ATA/66 drive can transfer data, say, to another partition on the same drive, or what have you.
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Take a notice, that Internet2 project is right now only for universities and big companys... And right now - for testing pourpourses only...
(sorry for my bad english)
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The RIAA and MPAA have both come out proclaiming Hayes' new 4800 baud modem with MNP5 as the best connection system possible, and are subsidizing the conversion from broadband to these hardware devices with a $50 rebate until the end of the year.
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Marge: "Does anyone need that much porn?"
Homer (drooling): "One million times faster...."
Suddenly my DSL no longer seems fast enough.
The Moo went "Cow!"
401 Mb/s is great, but what sort of ping rates were they getting?
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The rate of 401 megabits per second achieved in transferring 625 megabytes of data from Fairbanks, Alaska to Amsterdam in the Netherlands is over 8000 times greater than the fastest dial-up modem.
Must be nice to have a pipe that's not full of SPAM, pop-up ads, Code Red, Nimda, SQLSnake, Gnutella, ARP scans from the braindead fucks at my ISP, AIM crap...
--saint
Some day, I'll have that kind of bandwidth running to my home. And my ISP will still disallow my personal telnet server because of the strain it will put on the network.
Finally finding the pr0n becomes the bottle-neck.
Pr0n jokes are obligatory for this kind of story, read the manual.
Somebody's law says the more space you have the easier it is to fill with junk - be it drivespace or bandwidth. Just like 28.8 used to kick ass, I think that 400 mbps will become slow. How soon though?
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News of faster internet made HIllary Rosen faint.
Someone shouted, "quick get some smelling salts".
Someone else said, "Here, use this sharpie marker."
...when they realised it was Britney Spears' latest album, they sent it straight back even faster.
Amsterdam and Alaska are separated by water, so I don't see how this can be a new land speed record, unless Jesus is involved.
If I am not mistaken (and I could be, I suck at maths).
It traveled at about 3,345,350 KM/H, or about 5,352,560 MPH...
Yeah, but how many Libraries of Congress is that? Until they release their accomplishment in Libraries-of-Congress-per-second, it means absolutely nothing to me, or anyone else. Right?
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Debian
Now if only Debian was the sort of corporate entity that would use this for it's own propaganda purposes! Maybe IBM will run a few ads of people viewing 9000x6750 streaming video on their Debian 7x7 (hmmm, 6x8 head G200 plus another G200!) xinerama display PC!
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This article, I feel is more than a little vauge. What did they use to transfer? Was it just over electrical/telephone lines, or did they use optics? What kind of compression was used, and what kind of signal boosters/optical repeaters were used in sending this. All of these items could be used to affect the speed of transfer, and well, the article just doesn't say. I mean in theory, one could build a router from parallel to serial that could take data at 9.6 terabits/sec. How are they actually measuring things? Just the time between there and here? Using full optical lines, wouldn't they be able to set the record at c * the index of refraction of the fiberoptic line? It would just be a matter of putting all the data into one block of light.
Also the article suggested only one way communication, what happens with error checking and such?
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Unix is very user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are.
Why on earth would you run telnet instead of SSH? Do you LIKE sending your password over the wire in the clear for any idiot to sniff?
transferring the equivalent of an entire compact disc's contents across more than 7608 miles (12,272 km) of network in 13 seconds
It's probably the DNA codes for a polar worm.
is over 8000 times greater than the fastest dial-up modem
;-). And the fastest car on earth goes 8000 times faster than I crawl! Next time let's compare it to at least DSL!
I just LOVE sem-relevant comparisons!
So close and yet so far from the world's perfect ID number
Napster on Internet 2? Damn these guys are quick!!!
"Debian Woody in less than two minutes"
Any woman will tell you waiting more than 90 seconds for a "Debian Woody" is unacceptable. My personal best is nearly 1/3 of that.
Its a joke..get it? No...RTFM
"Get them before they get....
They actually had it ready 2 weeks ago, but were unable to transfer the cd until they used a felt tip marker around the edge.
We all get along together like tornadoes and trailer parks.
http://www.internet2.edu
Why is a seperated network?
You think they are going to spend all that money on a serious research network only to let Joe Public use al, the bandwidth on pr0n?
"The new wave is not value-added; it's garbage-subtracted" - Esther Dyson, Dec 1994
Every year there is a competition at the high performance conference (Supercomputing 2001 was this last one). It is entitled the 'Bandwidth Challenge'. This last year, NERSC took first place with a 3.3 gigabit/second sustained graphically represented simulation using seaborg.
Now, admittedly, it wasn't intercontinental, only from Oakland, Ca to Denver, Co....:D
Do you know why the road less traveled by is littered with the bones of the unwary?
I don't think anybody at the University of Alaska-Fairbanks even knew this was happening. I think those crazy Dutch just slurped down the image from our local linux mirror (which is maintained by our LUG).
It seems sort of bad form. The mirror is there for everyone, but bandwidth for the sake of bandwidth....
And now of course, EVERYONE will start trying to see how fast they can suck down our bandwidth. I bet my internet connection at work is terrible tomorrow.
I can see one (the current) becoming a lowlier, cheaper, seedier, less secure, internet "underground" if you will
With the exception of "cheaper" (in price, that is), isn't the current internet already the pinnacle of those adjectives?
I'd hit my monthly DL limit in under 10 minutes :-(
What would I do for the rest of the month?
Does anybody remember this urban legend?
There was a IT engineer based in London who was sacked because he couldn't get the ping rate between the London and N.Y.C. corporate offices below 20ms.......His boss didn't see the "speed of light" as a valid excuse!!
Ripping an new rectum in the fabric of spacetime.
Internet2 page has some events and workshops that look like they might be really good deals. I registered for the IPV6 3 day workshop at the University of Utah for only $100.00 - as long as it doesn't suck, that should be money well spent.
.. how fast Al Gore will take credit for inventing the Internet2 also.
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The transfer rate of the new records calculates as follows: 625MB over 12,272km in 13 seconds = 590000 MB*Km/s = 0.590 TB*Km/s
When I drive home from work in a few minutes: 125TB (10^15 Synapses, Von Neumann et al.) at 85 Mph during rush hour (yeah, that manic...it's me) = 4.7 Tb*Km/s
The Boing full of DVD's calculates as follows: 4.7GB * 170.5 Cubic meters cargo space / 175 Cubic cm jewel case * 912 Km/h = 662,515Gb * 0.25Km/s = 1160 TB*Km/s
The University of Washington has transmitted 1.5Gbps of HDTV across the country. I guess the new thing here is the intercontinental aspect. Here for the UW press release.
transferring the equivalent of an entire compact disc's contents across more than 7608 miles (12,272 km) of network in 13 seconds
Fitting that the first ever use of the internet2 is piracy! I bet it was Eminemn's new cd...
python -c "x='python -c %sx=%s; print x%%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))%s'; print x%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))"
From these previous articles, the way that major broadband providers down under managing - Telstra, Optus, General are capping Internet usage to 3GB per month! This equates roughly to six ISOs. This means that you could max out your traffic allowance in say 6 x 13s = 78 seconds!!!
You could kiss broadband content eg. Streaming webcasts-music, demos, Telecommuting (ie Voip-video) goodbye!
It doesn't matter at all how much faster than the average dialup modem they transfer data so long as there is still a user with a dialup modem at the other end of the transfer. I am not looking to belittle the fabulous work these folks have put in. Merely pointing out that until we solve the "last mile problem" these efforts are largely wasted.
The informaton that the LOC is 10 terabytes comes from the Data Powers of Ten page. Whether or not this is entirely accurate, I'd be willing to bet that a lot of reporters and such use it as a reference. They're probably good ballpark numbers. To quote a bit from the section of the page that includes the LOC:
pr0n jokes aside :-)
They really shouldn't be building up expectations in people's minds that "Internet2" is going to make things faster for them.
These types of stories eventually wind up in the Tech section of the local newspapers etc. and its A Bad Thing TM to build up mis-perceptions.
Internet2 is not going to solve last mile bandwidth limitations.
I'm sick of this joke© It's based on a quote taken wildly out of context©
IIRC, the quote actually is *about* Internet2, and Al Gore was one of the key figures in passing the bill that sponsored the Internet2 program©
Gore was one of our more tech-savvy politicians, and we may have killed his presidency run with a dumb joke© ¥In a race that close, you can blame anything
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You think they are going to spend all that money on a serious research network only to let Joe Public use al, the bandwidth on pr0n?
College resnets are hooked up to the Internet2 as well, so I assure you there's plenty of bandwidth being used on pr0n.
When something like this comes along and everybody gets to show their mad multiplication/division skills?
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
if DoubleClick/etc just stopped with all of the Flash ads, the rest of the existing internet might be that fast. :-)
We've already established that FedEx wins on bandwidth, now what about cost per bit.
For me to get time on the FedEx petabit jumbo jet costs what, $10E-10/bit? Now presume that internet 2 will have a hundred nodes, and will cost ten billion (optimistic on both counts) so about a hundred million per node or about ten million per node per year. So one second costs about 3 cents, and I get 0.4 gig for it presuming there is the demand for full utilization.
So where is the scientific reason for spending a hundred times more per bit? If it's a big shipment, I can wait for the plane. If it's a small shipment, I can wait for good old internet 1. If it's interactive, I should fly myself to the computer that's doing the crunching or upload the code to my local platform. I have yet to see a legitimate scientific application for this. Maybe there's a futuristic entertainment angle to internet 2, but should NSF be funding ultra-luxury entertainment?
Internet 2 is a solution looking for a problem.
Or maybe sequelitis. "The first one was a hit, let's hurry up and get another one just like it out."
Bah. I don't pay taxes so people can win pointless expensive races. Show me how this helps anything that is remotely in the public interest.
mt
what speeds would they get if they used ipv4 with public internet ips to transfer data over these wires? why do they attribute this to 'internet2', and not just a fat pipe?
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Before I tried using Apache, I was only getting a third of that (13 Mb/sec). Anyhow, 50 Mbits/sec vs 420 Gbits/sec... you figure it out. Me, I'll just drool for the drive arrays that ran fast enough to keep up with the link.
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I may be mistaken, but I thought I read about an OC-768 test by Qwest across the continental U.S. earlier on /. - so why is this different? OC-768 is about 40Gb/s, which is a lot faster than 401Mb/s.
Jake
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With the Internet2 I could download those looped Scorpion King trailers disguised as AOTC 8000 times faster !
Any idea what software they used for the transfer? A simple TCP session won't work - the maximum window size of 64KB limits the transfer rate over large speed*delay products. Were they using a multi-session FTP, or customware, or something UDP-based?
Bill Stewart
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Why is this news? It is easy to get a gigabit link between any two major cities in the US, if you are willing to pay. I transfer files at gigabit speeds all the time - granted, across a river and not across an ocean, but is it really any different?
"...the equivalent of an entire compact disc's contents"
What? Was the rest marked out with a Sharpie marker?
Correct. The calculations were done assuming this (that the highway was packed with station wagons). So while the lag is incredible, you still get amazing bandwidth.
Stupid like a fox!
Thats faster than Yo mama chasing after crack
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Actually, I can imagine better uses for the money and talent being thrown at this project for no discernible reason.
mt