Toshiba e740 Pocket PC
Brian writes "Details of the e740, Toshiba's XScale model which will be powered by PocketPC 2002 has been leaked. PDA LIVE.com has the scoop and the photo :)" Integrated 802.11b, nice.
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I like these little computers. Imagine when we'll be able to wear them on our wrists!
Imagine a beowulf cluster of these!
3 posts and its dead. Is this a new record? Whos got a copy?
Whatever happened to the e570?
I can't even seem to find it on toshiba.com.
I was really looking forward to them putting it on the shelves.
Did they cancel production or something?
It had SD AND a CF expansion slot.
This unit uses a stripped-down version of Win98 and not XP embedded to save on costs. I still think they would be better served going with a Linux based os.
ohhhh yeah.... I want it. I hope it can run FreeBSD... ;)
Doesn't look all that
Interesting that the article alludes to "production difficulties" with the XScale. Anyone know what did Intel manage to do to screw up StrongARM? I know they had problems with USB on early SA-1100s, but the article is talking about CPU performance issues...
Jon.
Personally I think it is, despite what the Intel web site says. Everything has been carefully worded to imply that it's merely ARM "compliant" but I somehow think there's more to this than meets the eye.
What do you think?
p.
... on how long it takes someone to get a Linux kernel hacked onto the thing :)
400MHz Intel XScale Processor, a 3.5" 16-bit reflective screen, 64MB RAM, 32MB ROM
Get two e740's, add a little more ROM and it's better than my pc...I really need to have a talk with the wife about my allowance.....
P.S.Could someone extract all these "anonymous cowards" from my butt?
Only 400MHz? With MS on there, you should wait for a 2GHz version.
:)
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- 3D to a lesser extent than desktop: If I buy one of these, it's gonna be to play on it half of the time.
- USB in: HP did release a Palm PC allowing you to connect devices like keyboard, mouse and the like to it. And that was really cool when using it on a desktop. Unfortunately, no USB hub on these little sucker.
- No integrated extended battery pack ala VAIO. What I would like to get is a double or triple life battery extension that matches the design of the PDA.
- Most PDA come with no screen cover. Being the most fragile part of a device that you are supposed to carry all over the place, this one is just a pure puzzle to me.
- I want WiFi AND Bluetooth, not one or the other.
- Wireless earphones so I can listen to my mp3s without tripping in the cables, or hanging myself when I take out my coat.
- etc...
PPA, the girl next door.
-- I feel better now. Thanks for asking.
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As PDA Live appears to be /.ed:
http://www.pocketpccentral.net/toshiba740.htm
Small computers are great, but they do lack one thing that most geeks see as paramount in desktop systems, that is upgrading and builing them yourself. Though with laptops you can add/remove ram and harddrive(s) you cannot change the key compontents such as the cpu. What we need is some kind of standard that small/wearable computers need to be built around, not only would that help small businesses that don't have the money to start from scratch but it would also make a wearable computers move forward and become aplicable to the things we use desktops and servers for today.
Carpe meam simiam!
IIRC, 802.1x will start showing up in PPC PDAs in the first quarter of next year, on a per manufacturer basis.
Until then, you don't get security, which means that you can't use your fancy device, for example, at Microsoft's corporate campus.
My employer requires 802.1x on our wireless network, so I'm not excited yet.
I could really take advantage of the Integrated Wi-Fi, seeing how I just equiped both my home and office for it. Integrated Wi-Fi inso a PDA changes drastically the posibilities of usage for such a device. Wireless is what I believe will change PDA's from being an expensive rolodex and note pad into a crucial business device.
Too bad it's a PocketPC. The Sharp PDA looks interesting though, even though the Wi-Fi option is an aftermarket card.
-Pete
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Yay, 400 MHz must mean it's twice as fast as my 206 MHz IPaq, right? Well, regardless my main problem with the PocketPC line is that the screens are so small, by which I mean they don't have enough pixels. There's that new Clie or whatever with a 480x320 screen, and this dinky little PocketPC has a screen half that size. I'm just not impressed, even if it does say Microsoft when you turn it on.
Porting your 640x480 app to a screen 1/4 the size is not easy!
The other problem that I have with PocketPC is that the PocketPC Terminal Services Client won't let you run 128-bit encryption. Strange, considering that the Citrix Client does 128-bit encryption just fine. Citrix figured it out but MS, who CODED THE POCKETPC OS can't get it to work. Not very reassuring.
And whoever said that PocketPC needs some kind of screen cover is right. And the OS itself is extremely difficult to work with from an installling-drivers-for-the-802.11-card perspective. Like to install software you have to have a Windows PC running ActiveSync. They should focus more on making the PocketPC a computer capable of standing on its own and not requiring constant trips to the cradle.
sounds like these things have loads of horsepower; i'm sure some pretty amazing games can (and will) be played on them.
:)
games are pretty popular on PDAs, and this begs the question... why don't they make the controls better-suited to gaming?
you know games are one of the reasons people use to justify the purchase of these things. nobody is buying one solely to game, of course, but why else do you need a 400mhz cpu in your PDA?
just like the PC market, games are one of the driving forces behind ever more-powerful hardware, even if people don't always admit it/realize it.
the thing that sucks about gaming on these machines, though, are the controls! they're awful, and your hands get cramped up. why don't they build one with a slightly bigger control pad? also, they should move its location from the center, over to the left, to resemble a more traditional gameboy setup. i can guarantee the company to do this first will see a nice return on their tiny investment.
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Another fellow /.er made a funny comment about how long before we see linux on it... well, Are there plans for that? Or, in other words, is it possible? I see the windows logo and my eyes hurt :(
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The possibility of making Beowulf cluster certianly should be raised, but the Slashdot Collective is probably more worried about it being driven by the Devil's software, so it seemed like the logical choice.
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. Video on these things are very, very slow. 100x slower and more than what you may have now.
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Isn't there something inherently funny about a french guy posting as Annonymous Coward? :)
The Cassiopeia E200's cradle has both a USB client connector (for syncing) and a USB host connector. You can also buy a bottom lip for the Casio and that has the USB host connector, so you could drive a tree of USB devices while mobile. I saw a picture of it in a magazine review. I believe USB current out from the lip device is limited to 100mA (the USB specification allows current limitiations of 100mA to 500mA).
I do not know if the NEC MobilePro P300's USB host mode requires it to be plugged into its cradle.
It's nice to see Slashdot covering the PDA arena besides Palm and Zarus. The Pocket PC is HP, Toshiba, Compaq, Audivox, HTC and more...not just Microsoft.
from PDAlive.com:
"Rumors of performance issues of the Microsoft Pocket PC 2002 platform on XScale processor which was being floated around a few months seemed to be solved with the new devices performing beyond the initial level which was similar to that of the older StrongArm."
The older Strongarm was 209Mhz vs Xscale at 400Mhz, and after some tweaking Xscale now performs better. Um, why should I be excited about this? It appears to be a step backward. The PPC2002 was released last fall only supporting StrongArm processors - maybe it was optimized for them and now must be reoptimized (reengineered) ?
Enlightenment welcomed.
Alright, this is more like it.
I think I'm starting to get it which isn't too bad since I disdained portables till I got this gig with the Pocket PC company.
The first IpaQ link I saw was obviously outdated, but handhelds.org is the scoop and a painfully obvious URL to boot. Thanks for clearing that up.
I wasn't too far off though because I notice that they are suggesting you're going to want a microdrive to take advantage of all the Linux Arm goodness out there and this current set of flash memory powered devices is going to be lacking in that respect. Add that with the knowledge that WiFi still has some issues that should be addressed real soon but not quite yet and the verdict reads: not ready for prime time --yet.
Besides, I think the OQO notion of being able to plug into an external monitor or KVM is excellent. Let's move production on those babies to China and drop the knob on the price selector. Or droolsville, how about 2X512Meg Compact Flash and dump the microdrive. Too pricey for now, but next year? Who knows.
Most interestingly, the e740 will be available in three different trims: one with Integrated Wi-Fi, the other with Bluetooth and one with neither.
:))
I see two ways for a BeoWolf cluster!
-- james
Apparently, PDA LIVE is not dead, they just shifted to a new server and dns takes time to propagate I suppose :)
Great, they are quite on the ball with news I suppose slashdotted 4 times during the past month...
This information and photo are old news, it was covered on pdabuzz and other sites in early May. Here is the link http://forums.pdabuzz.net/showthread.php?s=&thread id=37865.