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Farscape & Stargate SG-1 New Seasons Tonight
marekk writes "Frelling A! The fourth season of Farscape, arguably the best Sci-Fi currently on television premieres tonight on the SciFi Channel. You can catch the premiere episode, titled "Crichton Kicks" at 9PM CST. Afterwards, you can watch the premiere of Stargate SG-1's sixth season, "Redemption"." I've been watching the SG1 season 1 box set and am
impressed. Its a solid show, and I'm looking forward to season it without the
benefit of syndication lag, even if there are problems.
As for Farscape... well, Duh!
Should be interesting.
Most of the crew is gone, Talon and Kreis are dead, Moya was sucked in to a workhole and John was left floating in space all alone with no fuel.
What a way to start a new season.
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I have been gnawing at the big to sg1 to get to sci fi as im not paying to watch it on showtime and the syndication in my area has been haphazard. I do how they find a way to make everyone happy with locations and make a 7th season.
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I think SG-1 air's first at 9PM, and then Farscape airs at 10MP.. Well at least here in ATL.
with the demise of Tick, X-files, Futurama and now Stargate moving, fox has finally completed the transition to nothing but crap and soft core porn. Congrats Fox
Looks like the Farscape game is shaping up nicely as well...
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I'd love to get all of the episodes on CD or DVD somehow - unfortunately only the first season seems to be available, and for a hefty price. I'd rather wait until they're all available before starting a collection since there's no guarantee they'd all be released.
There's lots of info on Farscape at the BBC Online Farscape Cult page.
The last 10 minutes of the season finale ruined the whole show for me. I have a hard time believing that a future First Lady could be so stupid, and I don't like the fact that Jack's wife is dead. If they don't resolve these two "issues" in the next episode, I think I'm just going to tune out completely.
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I didn't even know a new season was starting tonight, nor do i have time to go home to record it. That's when I remembered that my Tivo should be smart enough (fingers crossed) to record it on it's own.
If you are considering Farscape on DVD, be sure to get the European versions if at all possible.. They come in 6 packs for only 50% more than US 2-packs... (aprox $30 for 6 pack vs $20 for 2 pack)... In the long run, it would actually be worthwhile to buy a region free DVD player if you plan to collect the whole set and live in the US... Hint: look for APEX 600A on ebay... and do a google search for "loophole menu"....
Note: The APEX 600A will also disable CSS copy protection allowing you to copy ANY DVD onto VHS!
In the long run
Stargate SG-1 is premiering before Farscape. SG-1 will be shown at 8:00 and 10:00 CST, while Farscape will be shown at 9:00 and 11:00 CST. The original 1994 Stargate movie started at 5:30 PM CST.
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24 was definitely the best damn thing on TV last season. I tried to miss none of it.
:)
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The last 10 minutes didn't ruin it for me, but MAN did it hurt to see Jack's wife die. I mean, that sucked a lot. An awful lot.
As to Palmer's bitch wife? She got what she deserved. She wasn't stupid, she was manipulative. And I could believe it, from the way her character was portrayed. And she's not going to be a future first lady. Once the Secret Service is called in to keep her away from Palmer? Phbt. She's gone. Palmer might be the first single man to get the Presidency. He sure deserved it anyhow.
I dunno about a second season of 24... I fear it won't be as good. It's got a lot to keep up to.
Oh, and whoever posted stuff screwed up the schedule. SG-1 comes on at 9PM Eastern, and Farscape comes on at 10PM Eastern. That -is- 9PM Central, but SG-1 comes on -first-, not after. So remember folks, don't rely on Slashdot for your TV schedule news.
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Or equally as good, when will the cable companies come up with a decent pricing format?
Guh. We've been over this ground before, but I don't feel like finding a link to the old thread now. When you buy cable TV service from the cable company, you're buying the bandwidth and the wires and all of that transport-layer stuff. You're not actually buying the program content itself. That's paid for by advertising. (Except for premium channels, of course.)
The fact that you only watch 5 of the 50 channels doesn't really make any difference to the cable company. It costs them the same to provide you with the wires and whatnot. So it doesn't really make sense for them to charge you by the channel.
Not having Showtime, I've been following SG-1 on Fox (with all their time-jumping and out-of-order episodes) and the last ep I saw was the cliffhanger when Chronos's (err, our) mothership, and Apophis's ship just came out of 'hyperspace' from running away from the star that Carter made go nova, propelling them entirely outside the galaxy (note that anyone who doesn't already watch SG-1 probably never will after reading that sentence, really, the show's not so contrived).
My question is, now that we're jumping from syndicationto first-run, how many seasons, if any, will I be skipping, and how will I be able to catch up, since apparently Fox is giving up the show (Are they?) and the DVDs are only out for season 1 so far. Anyone know?
Thanks,
Kevin Fox
I'm not sure about which region, but I've seen from a newsgroup that season 4 has been released (was long before season 5 had completely aired). The DVD does contain some nice stuff, including a director's commentary for the episode on a second audio track. Lots of nice insight to the creative process there. Waiting for all seasons to be released is an option, but that may be a while, and you'll be without the insight of stuff like this extra material while you wait.
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True, but it will cost Palmer the Presidency, which is just stupid. Just like killing off Jack's wife is also stupid.
Of course, there are plenty of plot holes. Like why was Mrs. Bauer allowed to roam CTU unescorted? And why wasn't the surveillance video of Jamie's "suicide" examined earlier? And why are CTU employees allowed to make unmonitored cell phone calls inside the building? Cell phones shouldn't even be working inside that building! These are obvious security holes.
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You'll just be skipping season 5. The second part to the episode you mention is called Enemies, and is quite good.
One thing you might want to do is watch the season 5 opener, as you'll understand a lot more about what's going on in season 5 (but still not quite. You'd probaly need to watch 3 or 4 season 5 episodes to know exactly what is going on and the progression of the Earth and others vs. Goa'uld plot). Episodes can be found in some newsgroups if you want to download them.
Check out this link if you want to know spoilers for season 5:
http://www.gateworld.net/s5/index.shtml
Overall, I'm really looking foward to season 6 on sci-fi.
Stargate SG-1 was originally a SHOWTIME show. The episodes that run on Fox (aka, syndication) are actually a season behind the Showtime run. When SG-1 ended its fifth season on Showtime, it immediately jumped to Sci-Fi for its sixth season. The Fox run (which is still on season 4) still has another season to go.
Last I checked, Fox was NOT dropping their run of SG-1. It's Showtime that's no longer running it. So, those of you without cable or satellite can rejoice; you still have at least another season.
As close as I can tell, there is only one season between the last (new) epsiode broadcast on Fox (which was the season finale for season four) and the epsiode being broadcasted tonight on SciFi (the preimer for season six). Season Five was only on ShowTime, though there are rumors that SciFi is going to run all of the old Stargate SG-1 episodes in the afternoon like they do with Babylon 5 in the future.
I only saw the first 12 or so episodes of season five on ShowTime before I moved (and lost access to pay channels). The linked slashdot article basically sums up the fifth season. I hope they turn it around now that ShowTime is no longer in control.
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Fox wasn't carrying the show, if I understand right - it was your local Fox affiliate. Here, in Seattle, it's been UPN.
:( )
According to TiVo, I've been watching most of the 2001 episodes lately, which should mean I'm nearly caught up to Season 6.
(Regarding DVDs, I made a post about this as well, but to add to the concept, it'd be great if we could at least *rent* the DVDs of the shows, even if they don't let us purchase them yet.. I know I'm still seeing episodes I've never seen before and I'd love to be fully caughtup. The ep you mention, I haven't seen yet.
Of course, there are plenty of plot holes. Like why....
I'm pretty sure that all of these things fall into the category of stuff that makes the show possible. If the show were totally realistic, you never could have gotten a suspenseful, engaging story out of it.
Besides, the stuff you mentioned just isn't that big a deal, unless you go looking for things to complain about. While everything you said is valid, none of it jumped off the screen and prevented me from enjoying the show.
I've been in Australia for the last 3 months (where Farscape is filmed, I believe) and now that I'm back in Canada (where SG-1 is filmed... a few eps filmed up at SFU, I might add) I'm aching to watch some Farscape. A while back, the only canadian channel to have it was YTV (Youth TV), but they cancelled it when they realized that it wasn't really a youth program merely because of the Henson puppets. SPACE (our cool ass sci-fi channel) only has ep 2 for this summer :(. So does anyone know of anystation that we can get with basic/extended cable up here in Canada (the left-coast) that carries Farscape?
Do I have to resort to downloading the episodes again?
I got so sick of waiting for new Farscapes - a year is WAY too long!!! So, I downloaded all 5 seasons of Stargate and watched them and all in all, I'll take Stargate over Farscape. Farscape just turned into too much of a soap...it did start out good in the first season though. And Lexx - give me a break! I watched it for a while but it started to get just plain stupid. Truth is the SCIFI channel stinks and at least on my cable service is poor quality video and crappy sound - stereo only.
thats not entirely true. .50 cents pers channel you suscribe to.
They do pay for there channels, and if they find too few people watch a certian chanell(becasue noone will pay for it) they can quit carrying it.
so You might be able to have a min. mo. payment of like 10 bucks, just to have service, then
Cable an sat. companies do charge too much for there service. They should be allowed to have cometition on the cables. There monopoly has been around long enough to re-coup the cost of laying cable, and they could split maintainence costs amongs all there competitors that use the same cables.
You will never see fair pricing from a for profit orginization, without competition.
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No I was including the ones who got married after being elected also.
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...but I just can't watch SG-1. I find it dull, its writing unimaginitive, and the stories old and done. After watching season 1, I was actually surprised that it caught on. It must just hit the right nerve.
Farscape, OTOH, is one of the top 3 sci-fi TV shows ever.
number one is ST(original). Mostly because they where doing things that where ahead of the time, saying stuff that needed to be said, and had a lot of interesting concepts.
number 2 and 3 kind of switch between Bab5 and farscape.
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No offence, and I do not intend this as a troll, but WTF? As a survivir of the great BattleStar Galactica "frack off", I can tell you first-hand that swearing in "Sci-Fi"-onese will destroy your chances of ever getting a date.
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CSS isn't a copy-protection method. It's a method to control which devices can play the content, and it used to be an anti-rip protection.
With an expensive DVD writer and expensive recordable DVDs, you could still copy existing DVDs verbatim (at least, I don't see why not).
I suffer from attention surplus disorder.
Those of you who haven't explored the Sci-Fi news slashbox may be interested in my review of the first season of Stargate SG-1 on DVD that CmdrTaco mentioned. (Season two is due on September 3, if you care.)
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I hate when people say stuff like this. A show doesn't have to be universally accepted as 'good' for somebody to enjoy it.
I'm a Deep Space Nine fan. I even like the bad eps of DS9 because I have found something I really appreciate about it: it's overall visual quality. The sets are very nice and the effects are top notch.
Do I expect everybody to like DS9? Nope. I found something in particular I really like about it. There are a lot of people that say it sucks. So what? It just means that those people don't appreciate the same stuff that I do.
Call me a loser over it, however, and all you're doing to do is convince me that you judge people for petty reasons. "You suck because you like shows that I don't."
You can't measure somebody by the shows they watch. All you're doing is giving other people a means to judge you, negatively.
"Derp de derp."
IRC!!! DOwload a whole season in a 1 or 2
I've quit watching Buffy because it gets boring watching characters die and cry all the time. I really hope Farscape doesn't over do the die/cry thing too.
'SBEMAIL!' is better than a goat!!
You can watch or record it before or after Farscape. I guess that's the best way for SCIFI to make sure Farscape's viewer rub off on SG-1.
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Does anyone know if the sci-fi channel on sky in the UK has anything to do with this magical channel which is offering new seasons of Stargate and Farscape? A quick (well, long, thanks to the stupid crashing digibox ;) ) look over the next week of whats on my sci-fi channel and theres no stargate, and only old farscape.
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Farscape got to be too soap-opera most of the time.
Granted, SG-1 can get kinda soapy from tiem to time as well, but at least those episodes are in the minority, and are almost never anything except subplot.
--The Rizz
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If all you watched was season 1, I can see why you thought that. There are only about 3 or 4 episodes in the first season I'd ever go back and watch - the rest of them were absolute crap.
Once you get into the second season, however, things start to get MUCH, MUCH better! Go watch season 2 before you write the show off.
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Great! Now I don't have to bother actually watching the third season You managed to sum up almost everything that happens and kill any surprises that might have popped up.
+1 Informative? -2 Unwarned Spoiler!
makes me wish I had moderator points to keep this tragedy from happening to anyone else who is unlucky enough to not get the show and has to wach it much later.
Lexx had some fair episodes. Like the chess match one. That was creative. But I agree with hallow. Overall it's sophmoric crap with satire so dull it would smack you on top of the head and then limp away into the corner.
Farscape is QUITE GOOD. Certainly a far better production using less budget but the same type muppets as the Lucas drivel.
Rejoice that it continues. Dread that it will, like all good things, stop being so good. Let's hope that day is far off.
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To put a real serious rant here....
I've been a SG-1 fan from the beginning. The cultures are thought out, the government reactions to the cultures have a certain "truth is stranger than fiction" ring to them. The Air Force was on the one hand treating the gate like a hole to be plugged up, and on the other hand wanting to exploit what it could find on the other side.
But my favorite aspects are...
1) No captains chairs. No bridges, no ship to ship bantering. Don't get me wrong, I liked Star Trek the first for this, and TNG did it right but SG-1's lack of it was refreshing.
2) Earth is the star in every episode, terribly outnumbered, flawed, and childishly ideolistic, and the series is ready to show that.
3) Episodal. I think anyone who wants "story arc" really wants to watch a soap opera. Really they do, except they don't get the geeky "holier than thou" satisfaction of telling people they like daytime television.
Now, whats wrong with this picture? I've recently watched some taped season 5 episodes, and guess what. Here's what must have happened, a bunch of out of work writers that filled such shows as Babylon 5 and Star Trek DS9 with charectar drama (read paralysis by analysis), story arc (read soap opera), and captains chairs with lots of ship to ship banter have rewritten the SG-1 universe. It has to be.
One episode the major science words were "Miosis" and "Mitosis" used in a way that made me think they never got past JR High biology. Another had the Gould in a captains chair saying "I'm the great God Osiris, I have nothing to fear". Yet another had a symbiot telling Capt Carter that his former host loved her, I mean really loved her, like really really loved her.
So I say, "Oh well". What ever these writers are the keep getting jobs can do what they want with SG-1, its basically ruined now. At least we had such episodes in season 5 as "the Tomb" and four other seasons of fun episodes.
General Hammond looks bored now, nothing for him to do now that SG-1 has taken off on their own (and everyone seems to have forgotten all the other SG teams up to like 24.) Retire General Hammond, and I'll share some beach sand with you remembering the days of good science fiction that took research and thought to write.
Well, let me start off of how big of a fan of StarGate I was. Back in '96 I had one of the 3 stargate sites, and worked with the guy who later became the webmaster of the SG1-site. So being a hardcore fan I read that Dean Devlin (producer, and writer of the movie) wanted to make it a trilogy after the books. But MGM wanted money, and thought a series would be a better idea. Fair enough, I gave it a chance- It got worse in my opinion. From the beggining really, changing the name of Shau'ri to Sharay (sp due to lack of accent) Who the hell knows why they needed nudity in the pilot too. And changing of the "Death Glider" name from Udjeet glider made me mad. But reasonably enough, the stories were quite good. After a season or two, I begin leaving the house more and more, and less SG-1-I come back and the plots just seem so ridiculous and complicated that it just needs to be put out of its misery. I mean, from what I understand its story works, but its needlessly complicated and getting worse; Now if sci-fi can help 'em out maybe get things really back on track it'll be good, But I'm also a hard core movie fan, so the show started off bad with me. In any case, Farscape is the most original show I've ever seen, the comedy, plots and characters are great. They have excuses, that star trek never answered as well. Finally, I like it so much because its so original, I've not once been able to guess whats going to happen next, maybe soap-opera-y but its working right now.
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Ok, then you can be friends with the people that enjoy the fights on "Jerry Springer" and "WWF".
I'll choose the people that like "The West Wing" and "Farspace".
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Ok, then you can be friends with the people that enjoy the fights on "Jerry Springer" and "WWF".
Lol it's kind of funny you said that because me and my GF watch Jerry alot, and she's really into WWF.
Okay, I guess the prolly humor's lost on ya. It's just funny cos Im at her house right now.
"Derp de derp."
I find it ironic that someone like yourself would use a word like 'frelling' in your subject.
If you watch the sixth season of Stargate on Sci-Fi and you don't have Showtime, you will have missed the fifth season, since it has not reached syndication yet. Season four is currently being shown in syndication.
Until last year I didn't have the Sci-Fi channel so I'd never been able to watch Farscape. Even after I got the SFC I'd usually find something else on TV or just not watch it at all. Then it hit me, the Farscape marathon from last week. It is very rare that I end up so interested in a TV show. Now I can see why there is all the hubbub about the series, it is pretty damn awesome. I've found it to be the perfect mix of space opera and true sci-fi. There are sci-fi elements that make it intriguing and pique geek interest and then there are dramatic elements that easily transcend genres but make the show much better by fleshing it out and humanizing the story. Some parts of the story arc still confuse me but I've just started to watch the show. I wish Enterprise's writers would write some better drama which would really intrigue the audience. Another reason for not watching Farscape is I had it confused for a while with Lexx which actually hurt me on the inside.
I've been watching SG-1 since it first aired on Showtime (at which point it actually had some nudity). The first two seasons went by pretty slow and it took a while for the series to really hit its stride. I think since season three started it really has. Like others have said, there's no captain's chair or any of the other sci-fi staples we've come to expect. There's aliens but they aren't masterful overloads of MIB, they're real badasses with laser guns trying to kill the characters. I liked the movie so I figured I would give the series a shot and found that I did indeed enjoy it. The things over the years I haven't liked is the increasing amount of Carter-delivered technobabble and the decline of witty banter. O'Neil and Jackson had some of the best banter that was well performed and didn't seem entirely out of place. Both actors delivered it well and the scene didn't pause for the punchline which I absolutely despise. It is a sitcom tactic to pause for a punchline. Now the banter seems entirely one sided with O'Neil delivering lines to no one in particular or saying some sarcastic remark at entirely the wrong time. The technojargonbabble is just crap. Carter is a decent character but I really dislike when she get used to deliver some technospeak that has no real point other than to give O'Neil an oppertunity to come back with a faux witty remark. I'm glad it was picked up by SFC though, it makes a good addition to their lineup. It will be nice to be able to watch the latest season rather than Fox's saturday behind the times filler syndication.
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Over here (uk) we are getting one stargate a day at 6pm. Its satisfying me for the moment :)
If you are honest you have to admit that most Sci-Fi series plainly suck.
Either they 100% fucked in scientific respects, like Start Trek or even worse Stargate (I wonder why the Däniken crap is still popular). Or their storyline sucks like hell, being extremely childish (Farscape) or retarded (Lexx).
So, I purpose hereby that we, teh Trolls of Slashdot, write a high quality, not sucking Sci-Fi series. Most of us have high writing skills or a high-level science education, or sometimes evens both. It should be a very simple task to create an decent series.
It is our most holy task to fight against immature content and retardedness.
So I say: Lets get it on !
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I actually liked Lexx. Never watched it till about 6 months ago, and then I managed to find nearly all the episodes and catch up.
Yes, its a very childish show, and at times brings back memories of very bad 70s German Soft-porn. But they did stuff on that show that no other show would dare to do.
The one distinct advantage Lexx had over Farscape was that the main characters were always the same. Stanley, Xev and Kai. Sure, Xev changed to Zev, you got Lykka for a while, and Prince for a while, but the Crew of The Lexx were always the main three characters.
Whereas Farscape added Chiana, Jool and New Chick from tonight, and lost Zhaan. And man is Jool annoying!
I'm still trying to get a few of the S4 Lexx episodes I've never seen. I do think that S3 of Lexx was a masterpiece.
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Yeah, we've been getting that for ages on Sky One. I'm actually sick of it now - after repeating them all up to season 5 just in time for season 5 to start, when it was over they went back to the start of season one AGAIN.
Then, just when I thought they'd put something new on when they reached the end of season 5 once more...
You guessed it, back to the start we go.
Last I saw they must have just about got to the end of season 5 for what, the third time? Hopefully that'll be the end of it until season 6 appears.
Talk about milking it for all it's worth. They've ruined the Simpsons in my opinion by doing the same thing, but on a bigger scale. I think they're showing 4 a day on some days, 2 on others. Madness. What about repeating Family Guy? Futurama? Hell, I'd like them to do their neverending repeats on Farscape simply because I've missed so many through it being on at awkward times on BBC2..
You won't miss a thing about season 5 because the whole series has gone downhill after 4. The series has become a cheap ripoff of the X-Files.
It became so bad that Michael Shanks called it quits because he thought his role had become a joke and they now have some alien from a planet of boring people replace him.
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Ironically, even though the shows generally avoid story arcs (and it's usually a disaster when they do), the series has some of the best continuity on television. Unlike some other shows I could mention, you don't watch episodes in frustration as the characters forget an easy solution covered in an earlier episode.
But the series as a whole is on an arc to support the possible spinoff series Stargate: Atlantis.
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I enjoy the fact that Farscape is relatively true to life. It constantly evolves, the same character's continue to be important, but new characters enter and old ones leave. I mean really do you still have all the same friends you had in high school? In college? Time changes everything and while they may still have importance to you, you don't always see them, or even think about them as much.
The ever changing landscape of characters is extremely interesting. Some are annoying, some are cool, and all of them add new elements and depth to the plot.
Overall I find it superior to the shows that are only episodic and always have the same characters with no chance that they'll die or evolve. Data from ST:TNG is a perfect example. I can't think of how many different shows they had him learn emotions or different elements of being human only to have him revert back to emotionless android the next time.
Farscape's risk taking with new characters and plot is to be commended. It resembles life better, though I will admit that their occasional flights of fancy and wierdness both delight and scare (the cartoon episode).
Overall it's a wonderful show that makes for some damn good entertainment.