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Matrix Reloaded Filming Wants to Shut Sydney Down

ro_len writes "News.com.au is reporting the producers of the Matrix Realoaded are looking to shut down Sydney for the filming of the final scene which involves flying a helicopter across the city at less than 600 feet above ground. It is supposed to be the most complicated sequence ever filmed." Just plain nuts. Here is a previous story about the trailer, and another one announcing the film.

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  1. Shutdown ! by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 5, Funny

    What if it doesn't reboot? :O

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    1. Re:Shutdown ! by thomasj · · Score: 5, Funny
      What if it doesn't reboot? :O
      2002-06-11 13.30.05: [notice] Shutting down Sidney.australia.matrix
      2002-06-11 15.46.17: [notice] Rebooting Sidney.australia.matrix
      2002-06-11 15.46.32: [error] Sidney.australia.matrix bootstrapping failed
      2002-06-11 15.46.33: [panic] scp root@Sidney.australia.matrix:/home/{neo,morpheus,t rinity}/.profile .
      2002-06-11 15.46.36: [restore] Sidney.australia.matrix reloaded
      2002-06-11 15.46.37: [warning] Older version overwrite (Agent Smith 2.0 -> 1.0)
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  2. Film Industry is Nuts!!! by Coplan · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Abeit, I like a good action flick as good as the next guy. But shutting down a whole city? A pretty major one at that! If it were for scientific experimentation, then I could maybe be persuaded to support the concept. But for the sake of entertainment?

    How much money in the form of opportunity cost do you think the city might lose?

    1. Re:Film Industry is Nuts!!! by Croaker · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah. It's not unheard of, though. I remember hearing that the main eccentric guy in "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" got severely pissed about some network filming a civil war miniseries down south had all of the roads covered with dirt and other stuff... apparently, he took pains to piss movie people off. Something I'd be all for.

      I remember when they were filming some movie about the Brinks robbery in Boston, they forced people to take down TV antennas from their houses, so it would look more authentically 1930's (this was back in the 70's, before cable). Apparently strong-arm tatcics were used.

      Finally, I was watching a TV show about a famous local chef, who was contacted by movie people, who wanted to use his restuaunt as a setting in a movie. Great, he thought. The people came in, and completely changed over his place, making it look nothing like the original. He asked "uh, so why did you want to film here if you wanted to change everything about the place?" "Oh, because the *light* was just *perfect*."

      One wonders why they need to actually fly an helicopter over an actual city, resulting in the shutting down of said city. Even if computer graphics can't give them what they want as far as flying over the city, surely they could use one of those light-weight robotic camaeras on a radio-controlled helicopter to film the scene. That would be a lot less dangerous to the general populace, meaning it would be a lot less disruptive.

      Geez. It's all just freakin' entertainment. I'll be glad when it all goes virtual, and we won't have to deal with these people who think movies are more important than real life.

    2. Re:Film Industry is Nuts!!! by Arcturax · · Score: 4, Funny

      'm assuming that 600' means 600' from the ground. I don't know Sydney that well...but I'm making a broad assumption that there are plenty of buildings over 6' in height (roughly 6 stories).

      Only 6' in height and 6 stories? Is this the building out of "Being John Malcovich" on crack?

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    3. Re:Film Industry is Nuts!!! by Brento · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah. It's not unheard of, though. I remember hearing that the main eccentric guy in "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" got severely pissed about some network filming a civil war miniseries down south had all of the roads covered with dirt and other stuff... apparently, he took pains to piss movie people off.

      When the crew filmed downtown, he hung Nazi flags from his balcony, ensuring that they wouldn't film his house. That one was priceless.

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    4. Re:Film Industry is Nuts!!! by haa...jesus+christ · · Score: 3, Funny

      Abeit, I like a good action flick as good as the next guy. But shutting down a whole city? A pretty major one at that!

      There are major cities in Australia? Here we call them 'prisons'.

    5. Re:Film Industry is Nuts!!! by gvonk · · Score: 3, Funny

      surely they could use one of those light-weight robotic camaeras on a radio-controlled helicopter to film the scene.

      Not to be pedantic, but the quality from the setup you described would be orders of magnitude too low for even an independent film.

      Hell, just let them take Polaroids and make them into a flipbook if that's the quality you're going for!

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  3. Seems a bit OTT by sheriff_p · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Surely computer graphics these days are advanced enough to eradicate the need for real filming? Maybe this is all just a giant publicity stunt?

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    1. Re:Seems a bit OTT by dswensen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If they use computer graphics instead of actually filming it, not only will people be completely unimpressed, but they will bitch about how fake the CGI looks, regardless of how fake it actually looks, and talk about how much better it would have been if it had been made with stop-motion by Ray Harryhausen himself.

      I think they're going for "actually filming it" as a more impressive effect than using CG.

  4. Realize the truth by Out4Blood · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is no helicopter

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  5. Hmm.. by Diabolical · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the bottem of the article

    Part three The Matrix Revolutions is also in production and will be released in December 2000

    Sorry to have missed it...

  6. Shutdown for 2 days? by iceT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They must just be talking about the flight path and some margin around it.....

    gee, I hope they talk to God and get a good weather day...

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  7. Wow, Hollywood technology has really advanced..... by xtermz · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the bottom of the article :

    Part three The Matrix Revolutions is also in production and will be released in December 2000


    Not only are they filming the most complicated sequence ever, but they will be the first movie company to premiere a movie in the _past_. How they plan to manage the space/time disruption is apparently a closely guarded studio secret

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  8. Re:Why? by blankmange · · Score: 3, Funny

    The red ones are DayQuil, but I suppose you could mix them with the green ones.....

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  9. What I did for summer vacation by ObviousGuy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Isn't that what movie sets are for? Can't they rebuild a replica of the city they want on some backlot?

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    1. Re:What I did for summer vacation by GlenRaphael · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Isn't that what movie sets are for? Can't they rebuild a replica of the city they want on some backlot?

      That's certainly what they did when they needed a freeeway. Whole cities are probably harder to build cheaply.

      (By the way, who the heck is this? She's cute.)

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  10. Re:Stupid if you ask me. by Hollinger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Part of what makes CG look so, well, CG, is those unrealistic camera angles. There are some things that just don't work when you're point of view isn't governed by the laws of physics.

  11. Re:This vsCGI by paradesign · · Score: 4, Insightful

    this is the stuff that cgi cannot replace, the realism just wouldnt be there, now the fight scene at the subwaystation, thats what cgi is for.

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  12. Not so rare by YanceyAI · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's common practice for parts of Los Angeles to be closed for movie making, even if the sequence is not that dangerous. When I lived there, there were several times I was unable to get to work or park once I arrived. At least once that I can remember, they shut down all of downtown. It is extremely annoying to have your life interupted for the sake of entertainment. I might have been more forgiving, though, had they been working on the Matrix!

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  13. most complicated != best stunt by f00zbll · · Score: 4, Interesting
    like the matrix and watched a dozen times, but shutting down a whole city does seem a bit extreme. It's good they are thinking about people's safety and also secrecy, but is it really necessary.

    I just hope the W brothers don't kill themselves in the process of trying to "out do" the original matrix. The two of them have already spent quite a few years to this effort. It's always tough when a director makes a really successful movie, because the expectation are set unrealitically high. If they manage to pull it off, they may become hollywood heavy weights. If they flop, it's going to be a costly blunder.

  14. Other ideas by Moita+Carrasco · · Score: 5, Funny

    Other "my whacky final scene is whackier than yours" ideas:

    - Close down New York to make a film about 9-11, idea: actually fly airplanes into stuff, randomly. Pilots and crew: CIA, FBI and American Government officials.

    - Close down Jerusalem to make the final scene of a movie about the Israeli+Palestinian conflict. Idea: a huge crane pounds Arafat and Sharon repeatedly against various religious monuments.

    - Close down Paris to make the final scene of a film about the world cup. Idea: a giant soccer ball rolling around the streets with "losers" painted on, squishing right-wing partidaries.

    - Close down a strip of territory in Kashmere to make the final scene of a film about the alleged India-Pakistan conflict. Idea: Nuclear warheads detonated on top of CNN reporters who claimed a nuclear war was about to happen, as if it was a light subject you can kid around with.

    Apologies: I apologize for this post if you don't like it. It will avoid me getting into discussions later. Thank you.

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  15. They're not shutting down the *city* by Zeddicus_Z · · Score: 5, Informative

    Guys... it's two too three streets being shut down, for a peroid no longer than two days. Buildings along George and Sussex streets are being evacuted for public safety reasons. Other than that, its business as usual in our fair city.

    I repeat. They are *not* shutting down all of sydney.

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  16. And the reason for it is? by MavEtJu · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is it just me, but does the article give no reason at all why it has to be `shutdown'?

    But it will probably go something like this:
    Filmmaker: "We need all the people out of the city for two days."
    Mayor: "That's not possible. We can ban jetskies from the harbour if you like."
    Filmmaker: "No, we need the city, not the harbour. We are going to do some stunts there."
    Mayor: "Sounds impressive, but what if all the people start riding their jetskies in the harbour instead of going to the city? I don't like that, and I've made it illegal already."
    Filmmaker: "Please have a look at this script, it's specially printed for you on green paper with some transparent parts for the so called `special effects'".
    Mayor: "It's a deal, I'll just make being in the city on these days illegal, except for people with jetskies. After all, they might go ride them in the harbour if they're not allowed to put them in the city."

    People from Sydney should get the subtleties...

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    1. Re:And the reason for it is? by foobar104 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Filmmaker: "Please have a look at this script, it's specially printed for you on green paper with some transparent parts for the so called `special effects'".

      Okay, while Sydneysiders do seem to make up a disproportionate fraction of Slashdot readers, I'll go ahead and spell this one out for the rest of the planet.

      Aussie money is printed on plastic-coated paper in various colors. Each bank note has a little transparent plastic "window" in it as a counterfeit-countermeasure. (Heh.)

      So green pieces of paper with little transparent bits are Aussie $100 notes. So the joke is that the mayor is being bribed by the W brothers.

      Get it? Huh? Get it? Hah!

      (More info about Aussie money can be found here.

  17. Re:Matrix Reloaded by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "I'd rather be Tom Cruise - he gets all the chicks."

    Be careful what you wish for. Tom Cruise is stupid enough to fall for Scientology.

  18. Re:This vsCGI by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No this is the kind of stuff that MODEL MAKERS were supposed to replace. But then again they're a nearly extict breed these days due to over reliance on CG.

    I remember alot of great scenes that were done with model work. Including cockpit perspective fly-thrus.

  19. Not the first time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In the beginning of the film Vanilla Sky with Tom Cruise, he runs around an empty Times Square. Word has it that Hollywood paid $3 million to shut down the most active city in the world for a few early morning hours.

    1. Re:Not the first time by RazzleFrog · · Score: 3, Informative

      What is even more interesting is that Time Square is hardly all of New York City and you'd be suprised how quiet things are on an early Sunday morning in the summer. Very few people live in Times Square (unless they occupy a box). Either way, most residents are in the Hamptons, the Jersey Shore, or Connecticut and tourists are easily shepherded out of the way.

      They actually do a ton of filming in the city. There is a city agency dedicated to it - Mayor's office of Film, Theatre & Broadcasting.

  20. Can get the figures to balance by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Interesting
    • [Lord Mayor Frank Sartor] said under the council's Living City policy, the city cannot be empty on weekends, or business owners prevented from trading.

    ... unless sufficient amounts of cash are provided? Principles aside though, I simply can't see how paying a realistic amount to compensate each and every business and individual displaced by this activity could work out as less than doing a kick ass CGI version of it.

    Unless of course Sydney is working on the "First one is free" principle (or second one in this case), to make themselves look like a great (i.e. cheap, compliant) location for foreign film companies. Fair enough, but I'm kind of picturing how we might respond if (e.g.) a Bollywood company thought it could just breeze in and pay to have most of Detroit forcibly evacuated. "Get lost," springs to mind, along with stronger objections and possible a slew of litigation against the City.

    As I said, it's up to Sydney if they want to turn themselves into a giant movie location, but I'd be surprised if it does their reputation as a business location any good.

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  21. Something missing? by CraigoFL · · Score: 5, Funny
    The Daily Telegraph has learned the helicopter will include a camera mounted in the pilot's seat, giving the moviegoer a bird's-eye-view as the aircraft whizzes across the city.

    Personally, I'd prefer that a pilot would be mounted in the pilot's seat, considering how difficult the stunt is and all...

  22. Don�t you think they know this? by Conrad_Bombora · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is the matrix remember?
    You know the movie that knocked Hollywood on it's ass with bitching CGI, not lame CGI like phantom menace.
    Why where the FX better in the Matrix then in Phantom Menace?
    Answerer, the filmmakers of the matrix realize that not every thing can be done with computers. Some shoots just look better when filmed with real sets not CGI blue/green screen sets.

  23. Re:Matrix Reloaded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ok, I am a fan of CGI,computers, cyberspave, hell it is what I do and a great love of my life. But shut down a city for Keaanu Reeves. Come all this from the guy that did Pointbreak. And a 50 other bad flicks.

    Oh come on now, don't be so harsh on the fellow. It's not his fault he got a bad rap. When you actually go back and watch Point Break you'll notice it's actually quite intellectual. Are the surfer bank robbers really the bad guys or is it the corporate world who hordes all the money from the ordinary people? The bourgeoisie came to America and have crippled it with their new-aristocracy based on wealth instead of nobility. In the end we can only look to the true heroes of that film.. Patrick Swayze and his crazy bunch of presidential bank robbers.

    As far as Bill and Ted, don't even get me started on the wealth of historical information that movie conveys to the viewer. Freud was my favorite character. Who would have known he was such a prude? And Khan! What a badass. If the Matrix Reloaded is half as good as Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey we will be in for quite a treat.

  24. Re:Most complicated stunt ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But what did you really think of The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones

    Worst. Prequels. Ever. Rest assured that I was on the Internet within minutes sharing my disgust with the world.

  25. shutdowns by jhughes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hollywood does some strange things for movies. The movie Field of Dreams was filmed in my hometown of Dubuque Iowa, and the field is but 26 miles away.For teh final scene fo the movie they wanted to have a line of cars, at night with lights on, stretching as far as possible. So, for a few hours, they had shutdown a rural road (not a big deal), half of one highway and half of another highway.

    All for a snaking line of cars at dusk with headlights on.
    Tell me computers couldn't have done that:)

  26. Furthermore... by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Isn't that what computers are for?

    Did the Star Wars crew not create entire cities?

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  27. Re:cities as publicity stunts by Bonker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Funny, I thought that cities were for living in and business, etc, etc, not for rich-ass movie companies to play with.

    You've just got no clue why cities want movies to be filmed in their jurisdictions

    Think about the budget for big-time blockbusters like Matrix 2 and 3, both of which are being filmed in and around Sydney. Together, they probably total around 300-500 million dollars. Much of that money will be spent on production. A significant portion of that money is spent on things adjacent to the filming process, like catering, for example.

    There are restaurants in Sydney that will be made for life with the massive amounts of catering required by such a huge production. Even if Carrie Ann Moss isn't allowed to have more than a celery stick for every meal so that she still looks good in skin-tight latex as Trinity, you can bet that Bubba the gaffer and Hank the electrician want steak and potatos for every meal. Both the Wachowski brothers are big guys. I bet they don't skimp on the catering either.

    Also, since the actors have been in Sydney for about a year, do you think they're living in trailers? Probably they're living in fancy hotel aparments for thousands of dollars a month.

    Money makes it worth it.

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  28. Re:Not a low as it sounds by gorilla · · Score: 3, Informative

    Helicopters, and to a lesser effect wing effect, find it easy to fly very near the ground. The airflow is disrupted by the ground, and this reduces the drag and increases the lift. This page and this page explain it well. This means that flying 5' off the ground is actually very easy, and as long as there is adequate room above the craft, it should be possible.

  29. It's not a control issue by Myriad · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I regularly fly around at 200 feet during the course of my job. 600ft is pretty high really, and certainly high enough for an above-average helicopter pilot to maintain control while flying down a wide city street.

    For a project I was working on I wanted to do some shooting over Toronto at a height that would have worked out to around 400ft. They wouldn't let me.

    The problem, as I discovered, is not an issue of whether it is safe to pilot at that altitude, but should some malfunction or other problem cause an emergency (or crash) landing. Legally (in Toronto anyway) the pilot must fly at a minimum of 1000ft in order to have enough altitude that (s)he can move the helicopter away from densely populated areas in the case of an emergency - rather than arbitrarily falling on top of whatever is directly below.

    Now, in the case of a Sea King (the helicopter of "choice" for the Canadian Navy) I wouldn't want one flying at *any* altitude over a populated region. Something about 30,000 parts flying in formation that makes me nervous.

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    1. Re:It's not a control issue by Kombat · · Score: 3, Informative
      Legally (in Toronto anyway) the pilot must fly
      at a minimum of 1000ft


      That's not entirely correct. First of all, it's a Canadian law, not a Toronto one. Second of all, it applies to all aircraft, not just helicopters. And finally, you must fly a minimum of 1000' above the highest object, not just AGL or ASL (ground/sea level). In Toronto, obviously, that's the CN tower. So you'd have to be pretty high up.

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  30. RTFA by Ian_Bailey · · Score: 3, Informative
    The article says that they are only going to shut down one long street (and area) on a Saturday morning. They are not shutting down the entire city, and the mayor (or whoever the guy was that was responsible) said that any local businesses would not be compromised and be forced to shut down.

    I repeat, RTFA

  31. Godzilla by Joao · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I remember when they were filming Godzilla here in NYC. I was trying to get to work, and they had closed off 23rd street to shoot one of those "tons-O-fish falling from the sky" scenes. There were a bunch of us standing there for several minutes on rush hour, trying to get to work or school, and the one security guy holding us back. Then one guy decided to just keep going, and the whole crowd just marched ahead while the security guy kept trying to hold people back.

    I wonder how many security guards they're gonna need to hold back a city's entire population.

  32. Re:Directoral pissing contest by hyoo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why not just shoot the thing at 5 in the morning and digitially chop out any people that may be hanging around the streets?

    What happens if there is an accident (these things do happen). Then they would have to digitally chop out the chopped up people. It's a matter of safety.

  33. Re:Most complicated stunt ever? by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny
    they deliberately screwed up all the traffic signals (without the authorities telling anyone), brought Turin to a halt, and then had to find a way of filming dramatic car-chase shots in the middle of a lot of annoyed Italians.

    My question is: How could they tell it from a normal traffic day in Turin?

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  34. OF COURSE I'M A TROLL, YOU DUMBASS. READ MY NAME! by Subject+Line+Troll · · Score: 3, Funny
  35. most active city by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Word has it that Hollywood paid $3 million to shut down the most active city in the world for a few early morning hours.

    They shut down Tokyo to shoot the Times Square sceene?

  36. Re:Wow, Hollywood technology has really advanced.. by Buck2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    > You know, I am going to have seen this already, and it is willian on-coming to have been AWESOME!!!

    Use of the transitive par-past-prefect in the first clause:

    I am going to have seen this already

    necessitates the usage of an entrance stative par-past-profect (note: profect!) when describing the status of the predicate, as in:

    and it is willian on-coming to have been AWESOME!!!

    should be changed to:

    and it is willain on-coming to have been AWESOME!!!

    I know it's subtle. And, it could have been a typo, but sometimes it makes all the difference in the world for intelligibility.

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