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The Who's John Entwistle Dead

crazyj was among several Slashdot readers who, knowing my obsession with the greatest band of all time, submitted that The Who's John Entwistle died. His death occured one day before the start of their summer tour. The Ox was an amazing bassist, and I'm glad I got to see him play. Those fingers would just fly up that fretboard. He'll be missed.

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  1. Hope I die before I get old. by Starship+Trooper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    (n/t)

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    1. Re:Hope I die before I get old. by lasertech · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Having listened to the Who since the early 70's; John Entwistle is one of the reasons I learned to play bass. I guess I'll spend the next few days lisening to some Who cds and more importantly listening to the only Entwistle solo album I have; "Too Late the Hero". I guess to me, the title seems somewhat appropriate.

    2. Re:Hope I die before I get old. by Morky · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I don't want to achieve immortality through my works. I want to achieve immortality by not dying." -Woody Allen

  2. Rest in peace, Ox. by uncoveror · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I picked up a bass guitar when I was in College from 1997 to 1981 because of players like John Entwistle. I will miss him. I had to sell it in the summer of 96 when I was out of work, and needed to eat. I get a chuckle every time I see the video for My Generation. When Moon, Townshend, and Daltrey start smashing things, John cradled his bass like a baby, and stepped away from them. Rest in peace, Ox.

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  3. OK...I stole this from Roe & Garry in Chicago. by bwohlgemuth · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now we have three.

    Ann Landers - Talking girls out of going past 2nd base for years.

    Darryl Kyle - Tried to keep guys off of first base.

    John Entwhistle - More and more bass.

    How does Lance Bass pronouce his last name? And is he being shot off anytime soon? :-)

    B

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  4. Sad day. by standards · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some may say that this is not a slashdot topic.

    I agree.

    But the editors have determined that this is appropriate for the slashdot audience.

    I agree.

    It's another sad day. It's another hero that I'll miss.

    Best of luck to you John.

    1. Re:Sad day. by grappler · · Score: 2

      Not a Slashdot topic? Are you insane?

      Taco has made references to his "Who habit" ever since this site started. This is as much a Slashdot topic as any of that "Your Rights Online" crap.

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    2. Re:Sad day. by FreeUser · · Score: 2

      Speaking of the late John Entwistle:

      Best of luck to you John.

      Ahem. It's a little late for that.

      The guy doesn't exist anymore ... alas.

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  5. I will never forget... by wishlish · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...the blistering bass workout on "The Real Me" on Quadrophenia. When I was going through serious issues with depression, this was my one of my favorite songs to slap on some headphones and just blast into my noggin. Between Daltrey's angry vocals, Moon's frantic drumming, Townsend's strumming, and Entwistle holding the whole thing together with an absolutely unbelievable performance, that song got me through many a rough night. It's a really sad day. John, here's to you. You'll be missed.

    1. Re:I will never forget... by Nighttime · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, go out and buy the album.

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  6. Off topic by Chris+Siegler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Jon Postel I undertand; Stevens makes sense. But how does a guy who played the Bass qualify as News for Nerds?

  7. Re:for those who read the comments before the arti by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Lets just say I know how to make any band sound like The Who." -- Ox

  8. Now he's up above my head by Darth_brooks · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fare thee well John.

    "Boris The Spider"

    Look, he's crawling up my wall
    Black and hairy, very small
    Now he's up above my head
    Hanging by a little thread

    Boris the spider
    Boris the spider

    Now he's dropped on to the floor
    Heading for the bedroom door
    Maybe he's as scared as me
    Where's he gone now, I can't see

    Boris the spider
    Boris the spider

    Creepy, crawly
    Creepy, crawly
    Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
    Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
    Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
    Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly

    There he is wrapped in a ball
    Doesn't seem to move at all
    Perhaps he's dead, I'll just make sure
    Pick this book up off the floor

    Boris the spider
    Boris the spider

    Creepy, crawly
    Creepy, crawly
    Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
    Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
    Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
    Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly

    He's come to a sticky end
    Don't think he will ever mend
    Never more will he crawl 'round
    He's embedded in the ground

    Boris the spider
    Boris the spider

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  9. not me! by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hope i get old before I die...

    1. Re:not me! by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 2

      Hope I truly live before I die...

    2. Re:not me! by scott1853 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I hope my wife dies before I get old.

    3. Re:not me! by Pii · · Score: 2
      Damn... That's some funny shit...

      Un-lame.
      So sayeth the filter.

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    4. Re:not me! by rikkards · · Score: 4, Funny

      The Pledge of Allegiance: ... one Nation, and a dog, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all Note to Moderators: please moderate with a sense of humour as this is not meant to offend anyone.

    5. Re:not me! by kubrick · · Score: 2

      Hope That I Get Old Before I Die was a song on TMBG's first album.... very C&W sound to it, I seem to remember. :)

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    6. Re:not me! by grappler · · Score: 2

      The pledge in your .sig ("One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all") is wrong.

      There is no comma after "nation". It should read, "One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"

      Try it. It sounds better.

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  10. Re:Yeah by eleven357 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nerds listen to music. A lot of nerds have listened to THE WHO, so yeah this is news for nerds.

  11. Too Damn Bad... by HiredMan · · Score: 2


    *SIGH*

    I did get to see him play the single greatest bass line in all of Rock and Roll once.

    It was at a huge stadium in LA, but I was close enough to see the transparent spiderweb design on his bass during the solo but in _My Generation_. Of course that fact that he was talking to stage hand or someone as he played it flawlessly only added to my esteem for him.

    Creepy crawly creepy crawly...

    *SIGH*

    =tkk

  12. And I'm oh so tired of running. by GreenHell · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Truly an amazing bassist. Pity he didn't write more.

    "My Wife"

    My life's in jeopardy
    Murdered in cold blood is what I'm gonna be
    I ain't been home since Friday night
    And now my wife is coming after me

    Give me police protection
    Gonna buy a gun so
    I can look after number one
    Give me a bodyguard
    A back belt Judo expert with a machine gun

    Gonna buy a tank and an aeroplane
    When she catches up with me
    Won't be no time to explain
    She thinks I've been with another woman
    And that's enough to send her half insane
    Gonna buy a fast car
    Put on my lead boots
    And take a long, long drive
    I may end up spending all my money
    But I'll still be alive

    All I did was have a bit too much to drink
    And I picked the wrong precinct
    Got picked up by the law
    And now I ain't got time to think

    Gonna buy a tank and an aeroplane
    When she catches up with me
    Won't be no time to explain
    She thinks I've been with another woman
    And that's enough to send her half insane
    Gonna buy a fast car
    Put on my lead boots
    And take a long, long drive
    I may end up spending all my money
    But I'll still be alive

    And I'm oh so tired of running
    Gonna lay down on the floor
    I gotta rest some time so
    I can get to run some more

    She's comin'!
    She's comin'!

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    1. Re:And I'm oh so tired of running. by hondo77 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Pity he didn't write more.

      He did, actually. He put out several solo albums in the 70's. They're all great and I highly recommend them. Some of them are already on CD and I think the rest will be. Either way there is a 'Best of' CD out. Good stuff.

      The best comment on John's writing I've seen was along the lines of, "He had the misfortune of being a good songwriter in a band with a great one."

      Thanks for the music, Ox.

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    2. Re:And I'm oh so tired of running. by pete_townshend · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, my favorite Entwistle tune seems more appropriate...

      Heaven and Hell

      On top of the sky is a place where you go if you've done nothing wrong,
      If you've done nothing wrong.

      And down in the ground is a place where you go if you've been a bad boy,
      If you've been a bad boy.

      Why can't we have eternal life,
      And never die,
      Never die?

      In the place up above you grow feather wings and you fly round and round,
      With a harp singing hymns.

      And down in the ground you grow horns and a tail and you carry a fork,
      And burn away.

      Why can't we have eternal life, And never die,

      Never die?


      I know you were a bad boy, John, but I think we know where you are...

      pete

  13. Damn... by octothorpe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The first rock concert I ever went to was the Who at Madison Square Garden in 1979. It's still just about the best concert I've been too. I was deaf for two days and grinning for a week after. I still have the ticket and do you know what the price was? $9.50! And they were good seats!

    Oh well, Rest in Peace, Ox.

  14. Re:It's always sad to see musicians and talent go. by thejk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    due to someone perhaps being in public schools reading this I dare not say Heaven

    Excuse my hostility, but comments like this annoy me. When will people realize that shoving God down one's throat is exactly like prohibiting public mention of God?
    Freedom of speech goes both ways. Do not force one to speak or not speak. Say Heaven or God or whatever strikes your fancy, but don't force others to say it with you. Is that such a hard concept to grasp?

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  15. Re:Yeah by jonnythan · · Score: 4, Informative
    I think slashdot is here to show news for nerds, and stuff that matters, not to post the interests of one man.
    Good for you. Frankly, no one cares why you think slashdot is here. Slashdot is and always has been Rob Malda's site, and he can put here what he damn well pleases. There's no stated Slashdot Mission this story isn't a part of. This is Rob Malda's site. That's it. Deal with it.
  16. Not that I know... by twilight30 · · Score: 2

    They did take the piss out of this type of thing. You can see the image here.

    I wonder if there is a reason why the underrated songwriters in legendary bands (cf. G. Harrison) have gone. Probably just a coincidence.

    Rest in peace.

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  17. Re:What about the tour? by jmb-d · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do you guys think that The Who will find a replacement bass player for the tour?

    And where, pray tell, could they find someone to replace him? There's just not many (any?) of his calibre.

    I picked up the bass because of players like John Entwistle and Chris Squire...

    A sad day, indeed.

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  18. roger and pete by digidave · · Score: 2

    As long as Roger and Pete continue to play, The Who will be alive.

    The Ox will be missed. I also seem to be regretting not shelling out the $65 to see them on their last tour.

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  19. With Respect by DeadBugs · · Score: 2

    You have got to love a band that has an album called

    "Meaty Beaty Big And Bouncy"

    Rest In Peace John :-(

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    1. Re:With Respect by unitron · · Score: 2

      Or one which takes itself unseriously enough to have one called "The Who Sell Out".

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    2. Re:With Respect by wiredog · · Score: 2

      I love the cover of that album. Daltrey (IIRC) advertising Heinz Beans, etc...

  20. Re:+5 by bluethundr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This was a real jolt, this realization. He was one of the main reasons I started playing bass at the tender age of 13 and spent many a year playing in punk, jazz and ambient musical projects. At the age of 33 Bass playing is still one of my most satisfying forms of catharses and I still love the who.
    I will also never forget the time I brought the guy a cup of tea when he made an appearance at a radio station I was working in while I was in college. We had a nice chat, and I told him of the importance of his music to me and of my passion for playing inspired in no small part by him. He was a true, almost stereotypical 'English Gentleman' and I will always hold that experience very dear to my heart.
    I am genuinely saddened by this news.

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  21. Re:+5 by Archfeld · · Score: 2

    I can still see The Who on stage..I was 14 and it was in the very early 70's..The world changed that summer for me, while I've been a detractor of their last few trips out, The Who remained one of the most outstanding memories of my childhood.
    God Bless him where ever he is.

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  22. Confusion by Azza · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    Taco, please tell me, because I'm confused. How can you think The Who is the greatest band of all time, and still like (or even listen to) Eminem? WTF?

  23. Re:You can't replace something like that... by KnightNavro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Many people said The Who couldn't replace Moon, but they continued off and on for 24 years with replacement drummers. I doubt they'll do their current tour, but I wouldn't be surprized to see them tour again.

  24. Re:What about the tour? by WEFUNK · · Score: 2

    I think this is finally it, but FYI, here's yesterday's interesting Reuters story on the tour, "The Who take a bow for a new generation".

    I just read this earlier today and thought about what a great perspective they have for aging musicians being labelled as a "nostalgia" act. They were planning to go back into the studio in October for the first time in 20 years. Would have been nice to see them prove the critics wrong by putting together a yet another classic album.

    From the article I'm sure that Daltry and Townshend will continue to express themselves in one way or another, but without a third party, I doubt they'll overcome the still obvious tensions to work together very much.

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  25. Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? by boopus · · Score: 2

    Something similar has been done before... The only problem being you can't trust taco to leave these polls alone... The Who won by millions of votes, if i remember correctly.

  26. Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 2

    Yeah, I realised as soon as I hit the "Submit" button that I had omitted Pink Floyd from my quickly compiled list.

    I was quickly consoled by the knowledge that it wouldn't be long before someone pointed it out though...

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  27. Re:I thought.... by zulux · · Score: 2

    jackass.

    Sorry if I've hurt you when your down and out.

    I obviously touched a nerve here - sorry your hero died.

    I guess i'm juse a bit diferent than you - I'll save the sorrow for when one of my family, friends or pets dies.

    Good luck with your greif, and hope you find another hero soon.

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  28. Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 2

    Something similar has been done before... The only problem being you can't trust taco to leave these polls alone... The Who won by millions of votes, if i remember correctly.

    Well, I did look for a prior poll before writing my post. I specifically searched through the polls for "musio", "musician", "band", "artist" and came up empty.

    If there is a relevant poll that you know of, could you please provide a link to it?

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  29. Re:Let's piss on his tombstone by binaryDigit · · Score: 2

    Or 100 bats nibble his head off

  30. Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? by Transient0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Two Problems:

    one- as far as i know, cowboy neal isn't in a band.

    two- you can't possibly reasonably poll a large crowd in this sort of thing with less than a hundred options. Maybe twenty to twenty five percent of the slashdot crowd might choose their favorite band from those listed, but you've got a pretty diverse crowd here. I'm sure other choices might include: Sex Pistols, Kraftwerk, Johnny Cash, Green Day, Moby, Frank Sinatra, Rage Against the Machine...

    just to name a few.

  31. CmdrTaco... by ImaLamer · · Score: 2

    I hope I don't get bitchslapped for this but I don't understand.

    CmdrTaco is a Who fan yet he disses the disc golfers? Doesn't make much sense considering we are one in the same audience.

    Sure some disc golfers might not be Who fans, yet they substitute with others like Zeppelin, Rush, etc, etc...

  32. Anybody see the Who recently? by jcsehak · · Score: 2

    Were they any good? I saw them (or it might've been just Daltry) on TV not too long ago, and I was really unimpressed. Roger Daltrey in particular seemed more like Michael Bolton than his past self. It was nothing like the music of theirs that got me through high school (yeah, 20 years after it was released). I'm pissed that I never got a chance to see them live, but by the time I was old enough to drive, Keith Moon was long gone and they were well past their prime. Although I really enjoyed "It's Hard," I sometimes wish they would've grown more with the times, like say, King Crimson. But that's just me being selfish. I've actually heard tha Entwistle did some solo work though. Has anybody heard it? How is it?

    Anyhoo, even if they had released nothing more than Quadrophenia (their best, IMHO, and it also has Entwistle's best work on it) and spent the rest of their lives sipping mint juleps on a cottage by the beach, John (and the rest ot them when their time comes) will still be missed by me. Missed, with gratitude.

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  33. This brought to mind a quote from Pete Townsend by roc_machine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "My friends are dead! They may be your fucking icons but they're my fucking friends!"

  34. Re:Is anybody ELSE finding this weird ?!? by Rubbersoul · · Score: 2

    one more:

    George Harrison

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  35. Live At Leeds by graveyhead · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Everyone is hung up on Quadrophenia, but if you haven't already you should check out "Live At Leeds"... it is a fantastic album and really highlights The Who's ability to invoke raw emotion in an audience. Reminds me of Jim Morrison in that way, music that can shake you down to your bones...

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    1. Re:Live At Leeds by RWarrior(fobw) · · Score: 2

      There is a new release of Live at Leeds available at your local CD shop. "The Who - Live At Leeds - Deluxe Edition" is a two CD set. The first set is the original CD (set list below); the second was recorded at the same concert but, except for two tracks, hasn't been released until now. The second CD is the OTHER live performance of Tommy (the first being Live at the Isle of Whight).

      Live at Leeds is widely considered to be the finest live Who concert ever.

      CD 1:
      Heaven and Hell
      I Can't Explain
      Fortune Teller
      Tattoo
      Young Man Blues
      Substitute
      Happy Jack
      I'm A Boy
      A Quick One While He's Away
      Summertime Blues
      Shakin' All Over
      My Generation
      Magic Bus (without a doubt, the finest rendition of this song ever)

      CD 2:
      Overture
      It's A Boy
      1921
      Amazing Journey
      Sparks
      Eyesight To the Blind (The Hawker)
      Christmas
      The Acid Queen
      Pinball Wizard
      Do You Think It's Alright?
      Fiddle About
      Tommy Can You Hear Me?
      There's A Doctor
      Go To The Mirror
      Smash The Mirror
      Miracle Cure
      Sally Simpson
      I'm Free
      Tommy's Holiday Camp
      We're Not Gonna Take It

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  36. Re:OK...I stole this from Roe & Garry in Chica by Hard_Code · · Score: 2

    "How does Lance Bass pronouce his last name? And is he being shot off anytime soon? :-)"

    They'll just replace him with the constant stock of animatronic dummy replicas they have on hand.

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  37. Ok, so it's in bad taste but I could not resist by btempleton · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did you have to put it in the headline of the story and spoil it for thus of us on the west coast who haven't read the news yet?

    (I'm originally from Toronto, the Who's favourite concert town, so don't flame me.)

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  38. Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? by felipeal · · Score: 2

    If there is a relevant poll that you know of, could you please provide a link to it?

    Best Summer Concert. It's the second most active in the hof.

  39. THE GRATEFUL DEAD by fanatic · · Score: 2

    Your list was totally cool except for this omission.

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  40. Earth recieve an honoured guest by WINSTANLEY · · Score: 2, Insightful


    John Entwhistle died today.

    After the end of period when the Beatles could
    still channel my adolescent angst and rage
    (a period doubtless extended with a fixation on
    John L.) and the start of the period
    when I realized the punk and arty new wave
    were the dynamic movements (or moments) of my generation
    and the place where I wanted to be, I had The Who.

    John Entwhistle was the first rock musician who
    inspired me (not that the inspiration took)
    purely in a musical sense. He
    was the only rock bassist to turn the bass guitar
    in a solo instrument thru sheer virtuosity
    (McCartney's bass, the only other bassist
    that ever made an impression on me*,
    could stand out by virtue of its melodiousness).

    He was a musical Atlas on which the band rested in part,
    and rhythmically he was an integral unit with the legendary
    Keith Moon. And this integration was necessary given that Moon,
    a great innovator,
    was turning the drums themselves into a kind of melodic instrument.

    I find it odd that some of the most grounded seeming of
    Sixties Rock Icons (John E. and George Harrisson) are dying
    off at these relatively young ages. They avoided the
    extravagance that killed off the Glorious Dead (Hendrix, Jones,
    Joplin, etc). Of course, maybe appearing low key in an art
    form based on explosive expressiveness implies that one has
    one of those unhealthy personalities that holds too much in.

    Or maybe it doesn't imply anything except, to quote Auden,
    "all the instruments agree, the day of his death was a dark
    cold day."

    * the one exception is Tony Visconti playing on Bowie's
    The Man Who Sold The World, especially songs like Width Of A Circle
    and Black Country Rock.

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  41. Did his wife ever catch up to him? by Beebos · · Score: 2, Funny

    You can stop running now buddy...... You and your mates got me through high school. Thanks John

  42. Excellent... excellent... by MisterBlister · · Score: 2, Funny
    Everything is happening according to my grand design...just as I have forseen.

    Muahahahahahah!!!

  43. Re:I thought.... by Saint+Nobody · · Score: 2

    while i appreciate the who, they're not my heroes. it's just that every time an obituary is posted on slashdot, somebody jumps on it for not being news for nerds, displaying blatant disrespect for those that DO mourn the death. this has really irked me for quite a while, and for some random, unknown reason, your post set me off on a rant.

    i'll definitely miss one of the most innovative bands of the last half-century though.

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  44. Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? by FreeMath · · Score: 2

    Cowboy Neal is his own band:
    Look

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  45. Re:The Who? by sheepab · · Score: 2

    We emerge from our mother's womb an unformatted diskette; our culture formats us.

    Um, unformatted means empty, formats means to erase (format c:), so, wouldnt it be our culture writes us or something?

  46. Goodbye, John by Pinball+Wizard · · Score: 2
    I too loved the Who, and in fact picked my username because I knew it was one thing I had in common with CmdrTaco.

    Its great that many people in their teens and twenties recognize the fact that rock music is just not as good today as it once was. I defy you to name a single current band that has the power and creativity of The Who in their heydey. And they were but one of several.

    I salute Slashdot for pointing out the corruption in the music industry and pushing for a music scene that is less corporate-controlled and more vibrant and creative.

    This to me is definitely stuff that matters. Goodbye John, thanks for all the great tunes.

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  47. I met him once by I_am_Syrinx · · Score: 5, Funny

    In March of '96, my company flew me to Chicago for a week on business. The first night I was there, one of my co-workers showed me around town. I saw the sights, and quite a few bars. We were staying at the Omni Ambassador East Hotel, so our last stop of the night was the Pump Room, the hotel restaurant and bar. We ordered some glasses of Cabernet at the bar, and settled down to discuss the agenda for the following day. As we were speaking, two gentleman and and a few ladies came in and took positions on bar stools very nearby to me. I looked over and recognized Mr. Entwhistle. After talking with my friend about the star-sighting, I asked the bartender what he was drinking, and if he would mind if I bought him one. She said she'd ask. A couple of minutes later, she stopped near him and motioned towards me. He looked over, I nodded my head and smiled, and he nodded back. He accepted the drink, and continued speaking with his friends. Being totally hammered from drinking all night, I thought that was pretty cool. A nod from a legendary rock star. Wow! A few more minutes passed, and we decided that we should probably get some sleep, since we actually had to work the next day. With my alcohol-soaked balls-of-steel, I took a pen and a "Pump Room" bar napkin and approached him. "Mr. Entwhistle?" I said. He looked at me with a bemused expression. "Yes?" he said. "I would like to thank you for the great music you and your band have put out over the years, and it's a pleasure to meet you. Could I please get your autograph?" I proferred him the pen and bar-nap. He took them, signed his name, and returned them to me. "Thank you very much," I said. "Quite alright," he replied. With that, my co-worker and I returned to our rooms, and passed out.

    The Who was supposed to play here (LA) in 2 days. It is a great loss to the fans of the band in particular, and to Rock and Roll in general. Mr. Entwhistle was a class act. Thanks for the memories.

    -Sy

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  48. Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? by Yohahn · · Score: 2

    DEVO Rocks...

    You got me.. lookin' up high
    You got me.. searchin' down low
    You got me.. I know you know
    You got me jerkin' back 'n' forth

    Men without hats was also really good.

  49. TANJ, I was having a good day. by farrellj · · Score: 2

    Well, I guess I will have to celebrate the passing of another great musician to the Great Gig in the Sky.

    Us Celts believe that when a person dies, thet go to the Otherworld, a place that is better than this...think if your idealistic summer day, not too hot, not too cold. Many of your friends are there, and you meet other who become your friend. Then, when you are rested and ready to take on this World again, you are reborn here, which is why Celts mourn a birth.

    Damn, that must be a great jam session, John arriving there to see Jim Morrison and Jimmy Hendrix on stage, and suddenly the there is a sound from behind the drum kit, and Keith Moon comes storming out from behind the drums and gives John a bone crushing hug and says "I hate to see you here so soon, but I am going to love playing with you again!"

    ttyl
    Farrell

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  50. A sad day indeed by British · · Score: 2

    Several years ago, I saw Roger Daltry in concert with some orchestra.

    Guess who made a guest appearance?

    Listening to "My Wife" LIVE ranks as #1. Totally rocks. The Kids are Alright live cut is #2, and I can't stand the watered down studio cut. Some Who songs were just meant to be performed live.

  51. Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? by snilloc · · Score: 2
    Disclaimer: My comments are a collective reply to the thread.

    In order to be a "greatest band" poll and have The Who be contenders, there ought to be some ground rules.

    • The band in question must, in some sense of the word, be "rockin'". (I think this disqualifies the Beach Boys, questions of talent aside.)
    • A rule of thumb: The members of the band in question should be old enough to have (reasonably) fathered Britney Spears. (I will, however, admit there should be certain exceptions to this rule)
    • The band in question, however talented, must have achieved some reasonable degree of "pop" stardom (no obscure bands) without being considered a "pop" act (ie, Jackson 5).
    • It is not sufficient for the band in question to merely rock and generally kick ass (ie, KISS), but must also have a sufficiently compelling musicality.

    Now, my suggestions, in no particular order:

    • The Beatles
    • The Rolling Stones
    • Led Zeppelin
    • Pink Floyd
    • The Greatful Dead
    • The Who
    • Jimi Hendrix Experience
    • Pearl Jam - (a notable exception to the Britney rule)
    • Stevie Ray Vaughan / Double Trouble

    Honorable mention:

    • Stevie Wonder
    • Janis Joplin
    • Lynyrd Skynyrd
    • Parliament/Funkadelic
    • Aerosmith
    • Black Sabbath ("Snowblind", mofos!)
    • Van Halen, the Roth era
    • Red Hot Chili Peppers
    • Tom Petty, with and without the Heartbreakers
    • Various bands with Eric Clapton (Cream, Derek and the Dominoes, etc.)
  52. Re:I thought.... by zulux · · Score: 2

    I guess I'm out of touch.

    To me, tradgity is the deat of a child, a child just becoming consience and is just begining to dream.

    An older musician, somebody who lived his dreams, passing on seem normal.

    If someone told me that "my mom died", I'd have sympathy, but if someone told me "my favorite author died" I'd just shrug.

    I guess I've never had any form of entertainment touch me like my friends and family do.

    Lamenting the loss of a loved one, to me, is natural. Lamenting the loss of a source of entertainment just seems hollow, to me.

    Oh well, to each his own.

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  53. Damn! by Newer+Guy · · Score: 2

    I had hoped to see them play this summer....I do hope that the remaining two stick together though... Godspeed, John Entwistle. You, Elvis, John Lennon, George Harrison and Roy Orbison will make up one hell of a band up there.....

  54. Don't cry... by Surlyboi · · Score: 2

    Don't raise your eye
    It's only teenage wasteland

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  55. Re:Oasis? Radiohead? by unitron · · Score: 2

    That's The Association. There's no "s" on the end. But there are a lot of others to add before you've got the best of the '60s.

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  56. Re:The Who Fucking Sell-out by carlivar · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Oh yes. This is an excellent rant against the death of a member of the band. Let's also rip on Jimi Hendrix and Led Zeppelin while we're at it.


    It is bullshit that the Who did indeed Sell Out quite a bit after their final "break up" but who cares? I would have liked to see a "A Quick One While He's Away" for my own eyes.


    Carl

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  57. With apologies to Abbott and Costello... by TrevorB · · Score: 2

    Costello: Are you the manager?
    Abbott: Yes.
    Costello: And you don't know the fellows' names.
    Abbott: Well I should.
    Costello: Well then who's on stage?
    Abbott: Yes.
    Costello: I mean the band's name.
    Abbott: The Who.
    Costello: The guys on stage.
    Abbott: The Who.
    Costello: The first act.
    Abbott: The Who.
    Costello: The guy playing...
    Abbott: Who is on stage!
    Costello: I'm asking you who's on Stage.
    Abbott: That's the band's name.
    Costello: The Who's name?
    Abbott: Yes.
    Costello: Well go ahead and tell me.
    Abbott: That's it.
    Costello: The Who?
    Abbott: Yes.

    1. Re:With apologies to Abbott and Costello... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

      > Abbott: That's the band's name.
      > Costello: The Who's name?
      > Abbott: Yes.
      > Costello: Well go ahead and tell me.
      > Abbott: That's it.
      > Costello: The Who?
      > Abbott: Yes.

      Costello: So Yes is on stage...
      Abbott: No, Yes isn't even at the concert!

      Chris Mattern

  58. huge loss to the bass world by Wansu · · Score: 2

    I too was inspired to play bass by John Entwistle. The bass parts on every Who record are very powerful. He was an innovator. He was the first to use roundwound strings. Read the paragraph on a pack of RotoSound RS-66 strings, "Other bassists quickly followed his lead." He brought the bass out front and raised the bar. His unique, aggressive piano hammer right hand technique gave him the distinctive tone we associate with the Who. I saw the '75 tour in Greensboro. Moon was sober and in good form. He and Entwistle bulldozed their way through that show. Too this day, that rates as my favorite concert. Entwistle had no gimmicks. He was all about great playing.

    Long Live Rock!

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  59. Re:Yeah by Cplus · · Score: 2

    Simply put, he was in The fucking Who.

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  60. ABC News tribute. by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2


    On ABC's "World News Now" late-night news program they did a nice tribute to John, and a surprisingly long one for a mainstream media outlet. (I'd estimate about two minutes in a thirty-minus-commercials program.) They showed and played clips of the Who while they talked about his life.

    Also, right after their tribute came their weather segment, where they traditionally play music and show zoo clips while listing world-wide temperatures. This morning they played "Boris the Spider" during the clip, announcing it as one of John's songs before they started. (Also, amusingly, the zoo clip was of a small flock of penquins wandering through a town.)

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  61. Whoa by wiredog · · Score: 4, Funny
    I was in College from 1997 to 1981

    Majored in recreational pharmacology, did you?

  62. Re:I thought.... by crawling_chaos · · Score: 2
    So do you hang out at funeral homes sharing this enlightenment with those mourning the elderly and successful? You must be real fun at parties.

    I'm going to say this real slowly, and use small words:
    grief
    is
    not
    a
    rational
    emotion

    I'm not a huge Who fan, but I do know that if I don't share the grief I shut my fucking mouth and go about my business. I do not try to share my "superior" attitude with the grief stricken to stroke my own ego and brag about how "mature" I am.

    If you don't like the incivility in this, maybe now you understand how your previous postings have been received by some people here.

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  63. Rock is dead. by Nick+Driver · · Score: 2

    Long live rock! Be it dead or alive.

    I'm sure glad I got to see The Who perform live at least once in my lifetime, at the Cotton Bowl on Sept 3, 1989 with the Fabulous Thunderbirds, Stevie Ray Vaughn and The Who. Oh, man, what a show that was. Peace be with you John Entwistle.

  64. Not to worry. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 2

    I sentence you to death penalty if you don't make it into old age.

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  65. If you don't put there... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 2

    ... the "Kronos Quartet" or the "Emerson String Quartet" I declare you an snobist rocker.

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  66. Re:I thought.... by zulux · · Score: 2

    What is wrong with you - this is Slashdot, not a funeral home.

    Obviously, you are a huge fan of the musicians in the band 'Who.' in order to be so weirdly defensive.

    Maby, if you spent more time with your frinds, family and real people - you'd understand my shock of people boo-hooing over the loss of entertainment.

    Especially in this case, where the persion is quiestion's life should have been celebrated as a kick-ass example of someone doing what they love and having fun doing it.

    This whole thing reminds me of all the fake wailing and moaning when 'Lady Di' died. Hell, 99.99% of the 'mouners' haden't even seen the woman, let alone developed a relationship.

    I'll leave you to your amusements, and apparently, your heros of god like stature. Try not to let your 'entertainments' rule your life - especially the ones with advertisements.

    Upon refection I do know where your coming from, I had the same reaction when I figgured that Santa Clause wasen't real. And, quite frankly, if a little pain is caused by getting people to wake up from their 'pop-culture' dreams, and even if pepole have an ill though nasty word tward me, so be it. It's only slashdot.

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  67. Re:I thought.... by crawling_chaos · · Score: 2
    Actually, I'm not. I've always been more into stuff like Yes or ELP. I just remember the crap that went through this place when John Postel died (I'd link, but the story's from 1998 and the comments aren't archived anymore.) Some people have zero class, I suppose.

    I didn't have any strong feelings when Lady Di died, either, but I was polite enough to keep my mouth shut.

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  68. Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? by GregWebb · · Score: 2

    Hey! Someone else likes Snowblind! Stunning song but most of the world seems to focus on Paranoid, bit of a dirge IMO.

    One thing always confuses me seeing this sort of list, though: why do Deep Purple NEVER get mentioned? Has Smoke On The Water hit their credibility _that_ badly? (Hint - as with most bands' famous songs, it's nothing like their best)

    I could bang on for hours about Deep Purple, more great songs than I can be bothered to list, amazing variety and they could _really_ play live. Listen to Made in Japan for proof there. Not like they were unknown in the US either, being seriously big in 73-74ish. Watch 'Almost Famous' - the party where Russell Hammond almost kills himself, there's some music playing quite loudly :-) That's Burn, by Deep Purple. Not released until '74 and the film's set in '73 but I'll forgive them that because it's cool :-)

    Go out there, listen to some Deep Purple. Particularly In Rock, Machine Head, Made in Japan, Burn or Purpendicular. They're cool.

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  69. Re:I thought.... by zulux · · Score: 2

    Well, you thought I was incorrect, why wern't you 'polite enough to keep' your 'mouth shut'?

    Simple: You saw me engaging, in what you though, was insensitive behaviour and you spoke up. Well done, and to be encouraged. Now, here's the hard part, give others the same license you give yourself.

    I guess this is a case of diferance. I do recomend, though, that swareing doesen't augment your argument.

    I don't know who John Postel is so I can't comment on that. But, I do disagree that impersonal plublicly displayed greif over a personality is somehow 'classy.' It's actually, intuelectually pathetic, childish and usually insincere.

    Well anyways...I guess we just disagree.

    ...

    I do miss the days before MTV, when pop music was judged on its poetry, style and beauty. Now days, generally, pop music is judged by the beauty of it's lead singer, and the slick marketing of the lables. It's sad to see that pop culture is loosing *all* of it's graces and is really quite shamefull to think that this is the best, as a socioty, we can do.

    There is hope - The Lord of The Rings is good literature and is popluar at the same time, The Simpsons episodes are witty and aserbic. Hopefully, as a population we can choose to make things like 'Survivor' and 'Entertainment Tonight' go away.

    Here's to good rock, fun and poetic at the same time.

    Cheers.

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  70. Re:What about the tour? by MsGeek · · Score: 2

    Cancelled, according to the LA Daily News.

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  71. Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? by GregWebb · · Score: 2

    So irritating...

    I mean, who considers Yellow Submarine or Help to be the Beatles' artistic peak? My Generation for the Who? And so on...

    People, they're a much better band than the Dan Dan Song (its studio name, seriously...) makes them sound.

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  72. Re:Yeah by Erbo · · Score: 2
    And some of us expected this...one of the things that came to my mind after I heard about Entwistle's death was, "How long will it be before Rob puts this on Slashdot?" I thought of this because I knew Rob was a Who fan, because he's posted stories about them before, in which he acknowledged his fandom.

    Quite frankly, he did nothing I wouldn't have done myself in the same type of situation. If/when Peter Gabriel dies, for instance, I'm publishing it to the front page of Electric Minds. I respect Rob's judgement, as I hope EMinders would respect mine.

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  73. OT: Roe and Garrry are Fabulous! by pedro · · Score: 2

    Much better that Steve and Garry were!
    That show was much about negative space (silences), similar to what Howard (Blecch!) Stern does.
    BORING!
    R&G have wonderful repartee' going every single day. They're not poseurs, and it shows.Their news guy is easily as funny as either one of them, but keeps it in his pants, when he's not on vacation (Hi,.Jim!).
    They're utterly genuine.
    you can listen to them at:
    http://play.rbn.com/?url=abcradiog2/wlsam/g2d emand / ls_dbclk.smil&proto=rtsp&ads=1
    check them out!

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  74. Woohoo by Archfeld · · Score: 2

    You got the right idea Talkischeap. Barring accidents you're only as old as you let yourself become. I recommend liberal doses of concert. If you can't name a band to go see, the YOU REALLY NEED to just go and see one, anyone :) I've been saying for years that while I am getting older I don't plan on growing up, because adults ARE BORING.

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  75. Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? by Cally · · Score: 2

    ahhhh... a fellow Spiritualized fan.. and you've HEARD of the Beach Boys? You can't possibly be American... :)

    Here are my best guesses at the
    lyrics - any idea about the missing ones? or corrections? I mailed back the card for lyrics but they never arrived. 12 Steps in particular is hard to make out.

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