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Sorenson Countersues Apple

pinqkandi writes "MacCentral is reporting that Sorenson Media is countersuing Apple over a lawsuit Apple initiated in April claiming they have exclusive rights to Sorenson's codec. Sorenson, claiming Apple's lawsuit against them has severly hurt business, is seeking judgement against Apple in compensation. Apple originally brought on their lawsuit when Sorenson teamed up with Macromedia for Flash MX. Looks like good old Steve is back to his old self :-)"

122 comments

  1. I am doing research on the slashdot effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Please slashdot this site: http://www.thesmartestmanalive.com/
    Thanks

    1. Re:I am doing research on the slashdot effect by savbill · · Score: -1, Troll
      fuck you, you ass-licking, snot-nosed, wedgey-loving gnerd.

      note for all my /. good buddies: eat my rancid shit and die slowly in a reeking dumpster.

    2. Re:I am doing research on the slashdot effect by YourMissionForToday · · Score: -1
      I'll take that FP, and dedicate it to the power of open proxies!

      EAT IT, BITCHES! As you might expect, we get a lot of fetishists in the video store.

      If a customer is going to rent porn, I actually prefer to see a mixed bag of videos - that way all I know about them is that they want porn. Someone comes up with a stack of five videos about people pissing for each other, and suddenly I know a very intimate thing about a relative stranger. (An interesting distinction in Illinois porn law: you can rent videos about people pissing for each other or near each other, but you are not allowed to rent videos of people pissing on each other. Go figure. There's apparently a Byzantine set of codes that have to do with taking a dump for each other, but I really don't want to know.)

      Lots of people are hung up on a particular race, or a particular racial combination, and many straight men are pretty specific about breast size (The Nice Rack series and the Itty Bitty Titty series seem to rent fairly evenly). The most common fetish, if you can call something so common a fetish, is for borderline jailbait. This is true of both straight and gay porn. The gay series to watch are Eighteen Today, Just 18 and Gay and First Time Tryers. The straight series are Bring 'Em Young, Barely Legal, and, horrifyingly, Faces with Braces. We actually have a guy who vets all our videos and makes sure that nobody is under 18, but still, guys who bring a stack of those up to the counter make me want to hiss and warn them away from my little sisters. And it's never the 21-year-olds who rent Barely Legal, it's always the 45-and-ups. Gah. The 21-year-olds do occasionally rent the one Older Women, Hotter Sex video we have. I approve of this, in a shocking display of my own personal prejudices.

      Except for the occasional too-personal glance into their psyches, most of the fetishists don't really bug us, except for those in one special category: those who fetishize the video store itself.

      They can't masturbate because of the cameras, but they do everything else. They damage the cassettes on purpose. There's at least one guy in the straight section who rips pictures off the boxes, and a guy in the gay section who apparently carries an X-acto knife. People in both sections steal the boxes, which drives us nuts - a video without a display box won't rent because people can't see what it's about. It can take weeks to get a new, empty box and it's expensive. One guy in the gay section is definitely doing it as a triumphant "fuck you" - he always jams a plastic insert in the DVD rack as a calling card.

      One guy called for weeks, trying to get us to special order a tape called Autofellatio. (It looks like cheating - on the box cover the guy is bracing himself against a pool table. Dammit, if you're going to fellate yourself, do it on pure strength and flexibility or don't do it at all.) Anyway, it's a hard to find tape, and he called over and over. I talked to him twice, and I was pretty sure he was masturbating both times. When we finally found the tape, he cancelled the order, claiming he'd found it somewhere else. I think it was the act of calling that turned him on.

      People do get hung up on the act of seeing or even just renting a particular video. One guy at one of our other branches rented his favorite literally hundreds of times, checking it in and then right back out. The staff begged him to just buy it, but he wouldn't. His life was destroyed when his tape was either damaged or sold to someone else. He came to our store looking for it, and wouldn't tell me the title - he wrote down the title and passed the paper to Jeremy, the assistant manager.

      Mr. Dreadlocks's particular fetish is the naughty act of renting itself. I've always had a fine relationship with Mr. Dreadlocks, but then he's gay and I don't apply to his fetish. The male clerks can't stand him, because what he likes to do is rent a tape from one of them, go home, masturbate, (we think, based on the short time he's gone, that he doesn't actually watch the tape) come back, pay for his one tape, and then pick out another and start again. Sometimes he has an erection during checkout, and once he had semen stains on the front of his pants. He freaks the shit out of the male clerks, and I understand why - it's pretty hideous to be an unwitting participant in someone else's sex act.

      A lot of fetishizing has to do with unwitting or unwilling participants, and that runs pretty hard up against my "whatever floats your boat" policy. On the other hand, the more I work at the store the more it seems like some people are just hardwired in a certain way and there may not be anything they can do about it. Which doesn't really make it OK for them to call me and masturbate or steal stuff, but what can either of us do? We're at an impasse.

      But I'm still calling the cops if I catch them tearing up our boxes.

    3. Re:I am doing research on the slashdot effect by beaverfever · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Is that baby on the site the smartest man alive? It has a very big head. It is also wearing what appears to be a baby bikini, which would raise some questions about its manhood.

      goo-goo-ga-ga!

    4. Re:I am doing research on the slashdot effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      That kid is ugly, maybe I'll buttfuck him. Or maybe I'll buttfuck you. Or maybe we'll make it a family afair.

    5. Re:I am doing research on the slashdot effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Affair, not afair.

    6. Re:I am doing research on the slashdot effect by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Why can't we see more posts like this one? Do you work at Circus of Books? (I'm not even sure if CoB rents videos or just sells magazines. I just remember hearing similar stories from Pablo when he used to work there.) Now that we're on the subject of porn, I should disclose that recently I've been spending a lot of time watching C-SPAN 1 & 2, in addition to my usual large doses of cable news. Why did I waste so much of my TV viewing life watching Comedy Central?

      --
      It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
  2. hmmmm by on+by · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    am i still banned i wonder...

    1. Re:hmmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      you bastard!

  3. Slashdot Beatitudes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll
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    THIS IS THE WORD OF THE LORD

  4. first post bitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    woot!

  5. [xdfgf] Porn: Dog Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Yesterday, I took one of the biggest risks I'd ever taken as a zoo, but the
    reward was worth it. It started when I had to deliver some stuff over to a
    friends house. He has no idea of my zoo life and I pretty much know that
    he'd freak if he ever found out. I loaded up my station wagon and I started
    out for his home. On the way there, He called me on my cell to let me know
    that he was stuck in a meeting, but that I should just drop off the things
    in the garage. I asked him if he wasn't worried about leaving the stuff out
    there like that, but he assured me that no one comes into his yard because
    of his dog, Jedi.

    I arrived at his house and was greeted at the gate by his beautiful
    Rotweiler. He had gone out of his way to import one of the English breed
    ones. Anyone who has never seen an English Rotweiler can have no idea of
    how HUGE these dogs can get. Jedi knew me, so it wasn't a problem. In fact,
    he had a tendency to want to play most of the time. I opened the gate, at
    which point he promptly jumped on me and almost knocked me to the
    ground. After giving him the requisite ear scratch he demanded, he got down
    and let me back into the yard and close the gate. I opened the trunk and
    started unloading the stuff, all the while watched by Jedi. As time went
    by, I realised I was continuously glancing down at his sheath and his cock
    and I realised that I was actually starting to wonder what it would be like
    to get fucked by him.

    I was so busy watching him that I dropped some stuff on the ground. As I
    went down to get it, Jedi jumped on me and started to wrestle with me,
    thinking I was playing with him. This turned me on instantly. Before I
    could even think about what I was doing, I unbuckled my belt, pulled my
    pants down and off, and continued to wrestle with him. By this time, I had
    a raging harden. At one point, his nose brushed past my cock and he started
    to sniff it. Then heaven. He licked the head of my cock. It kneeled there
    and let him lick my cock for about ten seconds. Then he started to play
    again.

    I immediately got on all fours and turned my back to him. At which point,
    he started to sniff my ass. Then he took a lick. Then another. Then her
    really started to lick me. I could feel his tongue scraping against my
    asshole and it was driving me NUTS! I decided I had to get fucked by this
    dog. I reached back and pulled him on my back. Then I reached back and
    started stroking his sheath. He immediately started humping forward against
    my hand. Then, before I could do anything, he grabbed me with his forelegs
    and humped forward REALLY hard, and managed to push the head of his cock
    into my ass on the first try. The minute his cock went in me he went
    crazy. He grabbed my waist even harder and jumped forward to slam his
    entire cock into my ass. I was in ecstasy. I could only kneel there in
    bliss as Jedi started fucking me up the ass. I could feel every stroke of
    his cock inside me. I could feel his cock swelling in me. In fact, I was so
    lost in it that I forgot about everything. The next thing I knew, his knot
    was in my ass and had started to swell. I tried to push it out, but it had
    gotten to big. Whether I wanted to or not, I was tied to Jedi until he was
    finished fucking me.

    The moment his knot locked in place, he went to town on my ass. Jedi
    started fucking me HARD ! Slamming his cock into me as hard as he could.
    Pushing me forward with the force of his thrusts. Grunting everytime he
    pushed his cock up into me. I could hear him grunting in time with his
    strokes. And I could only grunt and try and hold on as he fucked me in my
    ass. Then, he took one foreleg away from my waist and put it on my
    shoulder. That was the greatest. There I was on all fours, Jedi's cock
    locked in my ass as he fucked me as hard as he could, with him holding me
    by the waist with one paw, and the other on my shoulder as if he was trying
    to pull me down on his cock even more as he fucked me. Like a man would
    do. Like a friend had once done when he'd held me by my shoulder and he'd
    fucked me so good and hard I was literally begging for his cock. I loved
    it.

    I started moaning and stroking my cock, all the while pushing my ass back
    to take as much of his cock in my ass as I could and let him fuck me
    hard. All the while, talking to Jedi:

    "Yes, baby. Fuck me. Fuck me with that sweet cock.

    "Push your cock up in me. Slam your cock in me."

    "Fuck your bitch."

    "Fuck me hard!"

    "Harder. Harder! HARDER!!!

    "FUCK me with that cock..FUCK that cock into me..."

    "Oh god...yes..I love your cock. Push your cock in me hard baby. Fuck me
    good. FUCK my ass!"

    All the while, Jedi just kept slamming that sweet cock in my ass. I could
    feel his knot scraping inside me and it was starting to send me over the
    edge. I kept pushing my ass back into him, trying to get him to put as much
    of his cock into he and keep fucking me. All I wanted was more of his
    cock. All of his cock. Every inch of his cock inside me. As deep as he
    could get it. And just keep fucking me. Keep fucking his bitch. Fuck me
    until he could spill his seed inside me and make me his.

    Then, I felt my orgasm build up and I had to bite down not to cry out when
    it hit me. I was moaning and crying and grunting from the force of it. Jedi
    meanwhile didn't care about that. He just kept on fucking me up the ass as
    hard as he could. Even through my orgasm, I could feel his cock pushing up
    inside me and the knot rubbing on the inside of my ass. Then everything
    went blank for a while. The next thing I remember is Jedi slowing down and
    I realised that while I was partially out of it, he had cum and was
    finishing up.

    I waited, and finally, he slowed down and stopped. We stayed that was for
    about 20 seconds, then he started to dismount. I tried to hold him and stop
    him, but I learned an important point. If a hundred pound plus dog wants to
    dismount and turn, there is NOTHING you can do about it when you are tied
    to him. I almost passed out from the pain of the turn, squirming and
    wriggling to try and ease the stress on my asshole. Finally, he turned and
    we were locked together, ass to ass. His cock firmly locked in my ass as he
    continued to pump his sperm into me.

    Thats when I realised how crazy I was. What would I do if my friend decided
    to come home? Suppose someone else, like his girlfriend or mother, decided
    to pay a visit? Not to mention the fact that anyone who seriously looked
    over the gate would almost certainly see us there. I started to panic and
    tried to move myself an Jedi back a little. No way was he having that.
    Every time I tried to move forward, he did so too. And in this contest, he
    was the clear winner. I decided to stop when I realised that all I had
    managed to do was to bring us out from the relative secrecy of behind the
    trunk, to the side of the car where ANYBODY who looked could see us. I
    realise that it was all up to fate and all I could do was wait. It was the
    hardest twenty minutes I've had in a LONG time. Finally, his cock got small
    enough and he slipped out of me. I immediately scuttled back behind the car
    and sat down. A mistake I rectified when my ass informed me of it. I knelt
    there for a while, then decided I had tempted the fates enough. I crouched
    there and put back on my clothes, squeezing my ass to keep his sperm in
    until I could get to the toilet at the side of the house. Which I soon did
    and cleaned myself up.

    I came back out and watched Jedi licking his cock for a while, but decided
    to leave well enough alone. I scratched him by his ear, then went back and
    finished unloading the car. As I was taking the last of the stuff out, I
    saw a car pull up at the gate. Then the gate opened and my friend came
    in. It turned out he was able to leave the meeting early and had decided to
    come and see if I needed some help. After saying a small prayer of thanks
    in my mind, I told him I was okay and I finished up.

    I squirmed my way home and thought about what I had just done. And realised
    how close I had come to losing it. And I vowed never to let something like
    that happen again. At least not unless I was sure not to tie, or that he
    would be caught up for at least an hour. Minimum. Oh, and Jedi? Its amazing
    how happy he is to see me these days. Especially considering how every time
    I bend down around him, I always see the tip of his cock peep out of the
    sheath.

    Ahh. Promises, promises.

  6. The editor don't want you to read this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Attention Slashdot subscribers: As you probably know VA Software, the company that runs Slashdot, is in financial trouble. Their stock price has been in the doldrums for months and they will soon be removed from the NASDAQ. We have it on good information that VA's board have now given up hope of saving the company and will declare it bankrupt in mid-August. At that point the company's remaining cash will either go to paying its debts or returned to shareholders, that includes YOUR subscription money.

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    007

    1. Re:The editor don't want you to read this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      can it be true? owned by a 'company'?

  7. It's almost funny by EraseEraseMe · · Score: 1, Funny

    The thought that they can sue the guy whose NAME IS ON THE BLOODY CODEC!

    I can just imagine the Apple lawyers sitting around discussing this.

    Lawyer 1: Sorenson Codec...Mr Sorenson, I think we can successfully sue him.
    Lawyer 2: I'm not quite so sure, maybe we should change this press release to say we're NOT going to sue him.
    Lawyer 1: Hmm, you may be right. No matter, just right click on the word "Sue" and look up an antonym for it
    Lawyer 2: But this is a Mac
    Lawyer 1: DOH! Ok, we'll stick with the original plan then...

    --
    "Anybody who tells me I can't use a program because it's not open source, go suck on rms. I'm not interested." (LT 2004)
  8. No problem---Apple will have plenty of money by conan_albrecht · · Score: 1, Funny

    After they collect the $69-$129 upgrade fee to OS X 10.2 from all of their users (many of whom just purchased a computer with 10.1 on it).

    1. Re:No problem---Apple will have plenty of money by ivan256 · · Score: 2

      When you purchase an Apple computer it comes with three coupons for a free OS upgrade. (At least mine did. Both my powerbook and my G4 tower.), So I doubt that they'll be extorting money out of that many users. They definatly won't be taking money from people who just bought macs with 10.1.

    2. Re:No problem---Apple will have plenty of money by escher · · Score: 1

      According to Apple's web page, the upgrade price only applies to those who bought a new mac on July 17th or later.

      That effectively makes my Mac OS 10 upgrage coupons worthless.

      Those bastards. I can't afford the $129 price tag for 10.2!

    3. Re:No problem---Apple will have plenty of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you missed the Apple page that the upgrade price -only- applies to people who bought a Mac on or after July 17

      See it here: http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate

    4. Re:No problem---Apple will have plenty of money by LMariachi · · Score: 1

      The upgrade price doesn't apply to you because the coupon price applies to you. It's illegal to hand out coupons for a free anything and then unilaterally declare them void. What exactly does the fine print on the coupon say?

    5. Re:No problem---Apple will have plenty of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But that is exacly what they did. Call them and find out. As far as they are concerned, those coupons are just proofs of purchase to be redeemed for special pricing on upgrades if they choose to offer a deal.

    6. Re:No problem---Apple will have plenty of money by dalamcd · · Score: 1
      "blah blah blah blah* blah blah"

      "*See individual offers for terms and conditions."

      They mention nothing about the upgrade being a free one. At least, mine don't.

      As far as I can figure, these coupons are only good for something when Apple specifically states that they're good for something.
      *shrug* Dunno, though. IANAL and all that. IANETS (I Am Not Even That Smart).

      dalamcd

      --
      moer liek CELtroid prime!!@1!
  9. don't we live in a great country? by stuuf · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Anyone can sue anyone after announcing they own a petent on something that has been in mainstreamuse for years.

    --

    Everyone is born right-handed; only the greatest overcome it

    1. Re:don't we live in a great country? by Grape+Smuggler · · Score: -1

      what the fuck is a petent?

    2. Re:don't we live in a great country? by pyros · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Good thing Apple's only sueing Sorenson for licensing their patent to Macromedia despite Apple having an exclusive license (which means Sorenson agreed not to license it to anyone else).

    3. Re:don't we live in a great country? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is true, someone mod this up!

    4. Re:don't we live in a great country? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, amd you cam ty[e bettr? (I am the original author,stuuf, avoiding moderation->bad karma)

  10. have a nice weekend by sunken_ehime_maru · · Score: -1

    Bitches.

  11. Important info for Slashdot readers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Attention Slashdot subscribers: As you probably know VA Software, the company that runs Slashdot, is in financial trouble. Their stock price has been in the doldrums for months and they will soon be removed from the NASDAQ. We have it on good information that VA's board have now given up hope of saving the company and will declare it bankrupt in mid-August. At that point the company's remaining cash will either go to paying its debts or returned to shareholders, that includes YOUR subscription money.

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  12. Steve?? by rampant+mac · · Score: 1, Insightful
    "Looks like good old Steve is back to his old self"

    You're mistaken... Bill is usually the one getting sued, Steve summons other to cease and desist. :)

    --
    I like big butts and I cannot lie.
    1. Re:Steve?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A quick rundown of the "Evil Empires"

      Steve Jobs = The Emperor Palpatine
      Bill Gates = Jar Jar Binks

  13. In other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Evil sues self. Film at 11.

  14. [xdfgf] Important penis information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Here are some basics that the boy in your life would like you to know. Maybe
    it's awkward for him to tell you - maybe there even are some things he
    hasn't discovered yet.

    Let's begin at the end: the glans. This is the very sensitive end, or tip of
    the penis. It's covered by the foreskin in boys who aren't circumcised. The
    glans looks and feels unlike skin on any other part of the body: it is soft,
    squishy, and the home of the most intense and delightful feelings a boy can
    experience. It is so sensitive that the feel of, say, a stream of water from
    a showerhead may be too intense to stand for more than a few seconds. Yet
    for all its sensitivity, stimulating the glans alone usually does not lead
    to orgasm - you need to massage some part of the penis shaft as well.
    This means, if you know what you are doing, that you can give very extended
    pleasure by massaging the glans. It is so soft that unless it and your
    fingers are completely squeaky clean most likely any petting will soon
    become irritating. What your guy really wants is a moist massage, either
    with saliva or another lubricant. The simplest and one of the greatest
    treats you can give him is to moisten your thumb and slowly rub it back and
    forth across the head of his penis.
    You can do this for ten minutes, twenty minutes, and watch him drift into a
    plateau of pleasure, without the tension of an approaching orgasm.
    Of course, you can do the same with your lips, though it is almost
    impossible to resist the temptation to take more of he penis into your mouth
    - and then you're off to the races!
    If you're this close you can see some of the unique geography of the glans.
    First, it has a grain - small ridges that go fore and aft (away from his
    body, rather than side to side). It's usually more comfortable to pet with
    the grain, though if you are using lubrication it doesn't much matter.
    Second, there are distinct regions on the glans: the very tip, around the
    urethra opening ('pee hole'); the twin bulges on the front, separated by a
    small cleft; the broad, flat back; and the flared bluish ring where it
    connects to the penis, called the corona. The most sensitive parts are the
    tip and front. Try gently massaging the front, spending five or ten seconds
    on each side, then switching, then spending an equal time on the very tip.
    The back is the 'grainiest' region and should be petted front to back. The
    tip, just behind the urethra opening, is the best place to get started - a
    very good erection stimulator!

    Notice that all this is about stimulating the skin of the glans. It is a
    soft and delicate region and not meant for deep massaging - too much
    pressure doesn't exactly hurt, but it isn't so delightful, and in fact a
    good squeeze to the glans is one technique for bringing down an erection.
    It really is possible to give very extended pleasure to the glans alone.
    This may be very relaxing for your boy, or it may make him desperate for
    more - it's a matter of mood! Once you do start to involve the rest of the
    penis, things change quite a bit.
    Just below the glans on the penis shaft front is the main action area, the
    part that is most involved with the intense feelings that cause orgasm and
    ejaculation. The penis itself really has two parts, the raised part on the
    front through over the urethra, and everything else (sides and back). While
    we enjoy stimulation to any part of the penis, it's the front that is the
    seat of pleasure. Petting or massaging the back of the penis doesn't do very
    much.
    The top inch of the front of the penis is the trigger, the part that all
    boys first learn to rub when they masturbate, either by an up-and-down
    motion (the veritable "jerking off"), or by rubbing side to side. This part
    of the penis is sensitive to pressure, rather than surface petting. Once a
    boy is fully aroused, even a slight pressure to this part of the penis will
    lead up to orgasm. If you are using your hands or lips on his penis, it's up
    to you to be sensitive to how much stimulation you are applying here, as
    that controls how long the ride will last!
    Pressure to the top front of the penis doesn't have to be applied directly,
    and this is where the rest of the penis gets involved - and a whole lot
    more. Once an erection is full grown, the penis is stretched tight, which
    means any pressure along the front or anything pulling at the base will tug
    on the top part just as surely as if you were massaging that part directly.
    This is something that grows more intense as he comes farther along towards
    orgasm: after a few minutes of stimulation, with his penis rock-hard and
    pumping from within (more on this later), even a small tug on the scrotum at
    the base of the penis can trigger an orgasm.

    If you are using your hands, you can continue to massage the glans while
    stroking or gently rubbing the front of the shaft. Of course, if you are
    using your mouth or taking his penis into your anus, all this happens
    automatically - it's exactly what the penis was designed for, and his whole
    body will get involved to make sure there is an orgasm soon!
    But let's not hurry, please, you have a lot of delightful territory still to
    explore. With his penis at 'full attention' you will learn that what you see
    is only half the story. The shaft of the penis goes equally deep into his
    body, where the right pressure gives long-lasting pleasure without hurrying
    to orgasm.
    Follow the ridge of the urethra down along the front of the penis, to where
    it goes under the scrotum. Massage it from side to side as you move down,
    and feel how his erection really extends several inches below the base of
    the penis, disappearing into his body below the base of the scrotum. Spend a
    few minutes massaging his penis in small circles through the scrotum - once
    he is fully aroused, this is a nice place to spend some time. You will
    eventually get to a point about an inch below the bottom of the scrotum
    where you will feel his penis shaft go 'underground'. Remember this point:
    it's an excellent place to apply pressure during orgasm. At this point you
    have left the soft tissues of the penis and are feeling muscle. You can
    press a lot harder here; a firm push is rewarded by a greater firming of his
    erection and a rush of pleasure along the whole penis.
    If you have a finger still on his glans (or even if you don't), you should
    see a drop of fluid every so often. This is his lubrication, or 'pre-come',
    and - I don't have to tell you this, do I? - should be gently massaged into
    his glans. (Note for the girls: though this isn't semen, it can potentially
    contain sperm, so use whatever precautions are appropriate for full
    intercourse.)

    You have a hand on his scrotum, or 'balls' - another very interesting place!
    The skin of the scrotum is also unique, and quite different from that of the
    penis. It has ridges, odor glands, hair, and is exquisitely sensitive,
    loving to be stroked and tickled. Hiding inside the scrotum (which by now is
    probably firmed up like a little baseball) are the two testicles. At this
    point it is probably wise to ask if he likes to have his balls touched or
    massaged. Although they have a well-earned reputation as the seat of pain in
    the male body, it actually takes quite a bit of pressure to hurt the
    testicles - they are really much more sensitive to impact than to pressure.
    He may find it exciting to have you massage them, or he may hate it. (Note
    to those in long-term relationships, testicle cancer is one of the most
    common cancers in boys and it is very treatable - so check for lumps several
    times a day!).
    If he has never tried it, I strongly recommend removing the hair from the
    scrotum, either by shaving, or plucking. As Dr. Evil (Mike Meyers) said in
    Austin Powers, 'a shorn scrotum is a thing of beauty.' Removing all the hair
    makes the scrotum fantastically soft and much better for petting. Plucking
    is by far the best, taking about half an hour. If you shave, use a sharp
    double-edged blade and do it dry, with baby powder or cornstarch for a
    lubricant. Trim but don't shave the hair at the base of the penis or the top
    of the scrotum, as that is the 'load-bearing' area during intercourse, and
    any prickles will be a serious problem.
    The scrotum is also very temperature-sensitive, acting like a little weather
    station. So are the tissues behind it. Cold, in particular, has a dramatic
    effect, and if he is up for it, you should try pressing ice into the base of
    the scrotum - the sensation is incredible, especially during orgasm.
    Where were we? You have a firm finger below his scrotum, where you can feel
    his penis pump up when he contracts his muscles (there's some Latin name I
    don't remember [pubococcygeus - Ed.]; these are the muscles you strengthen
    with 'Kegel' exercises, and most people would likely call them the 'love
    muscles'). If he is close to coming, even this pumping may stretch the front
    of the penis enough to trigger an orgasm.
    Move your fingers down his perineum (the slight ridge between scrotum and
    anus). This is a wonderful area to massage. In another inch you reach the
    anus, the other focus of erotic pleasure in his body. The skin around anus
    is as sensitive as the lips, a place for soft tickling, but able to grip as
    firmly as a fist, a place for fucking. Bill Cosby may get mileage out of
    fear of anal penetration, but I think 99% of all males love the feel of a
    finger in the ass.

    Use some of his or your own lubrication to massage his anus. If you wish to,
    press firmly and feel it open ever so slightly to allow you to massage the
    entire firm sphincter (opening). Slowly or by surprise you can slip a finger
    in. There are no more nerve endings past the anus, but the feeling of
    stretching and penetration is heady and delightful all in itself. At this
    point you may decide to head farther up to massage his prostate. This is (as
    everyone says) a 'walnut-sized gland' about one finger's length in. It is
    the true root of the penis, which you have now followed from the delicate
    glans, along the soft shaft, down to the muscled base, and deep into his
    body. Massaging the prostate enough will usually (not always) trigger
    orgasm, a different experience from a purely penis-based orgasm. If you do
    this, you will feel the enormous firming and contractions that precede and
    accompany ejaculation. It's time to put him out of his misery. With one
    hand pressing against the scrotum or pushing into his anus, and another
    massaging the glans and final inch of the penis (or with your mouth doing
    the same), 'go for it!'. There's more you should know about how a boy
    works. Erection, orgasm, and ejaculation are all separate mechanisms. They
    do not have to accompany each other; the only rule is that orgasm does cause
    ejaculation (unless something is medically wrong). In particular, erections
    can come and go for no apparent reason, so don't worry if you feel him go
    soft once in a while. We have been talking a lot about the 'primary
    erogenous zones', which I hope you now know well. There are of course other
    parts of his body that he wants you to pay attention to, such as his nipples
    (as sensitive as a woman's, and too often neglected). But there is one
    erogenous zone more important than all others, and one you can spend a
    lifetime exploring together: his mind. We males love to be touched and
    petted and stroked and sucked, but more exciting than all of that is the
    thrill of giving pleasure to and sharing pleasure with another person.

    OK, that is all I have. Now go and put my helpful advise to work. And have
    fun

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    1. Re:Censordot!! by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      What does eridicate mean?

  16. Oh boo hoo hoo! by wowbagger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For years, Apple and Sorenson have played "Ask you mother" about making a Sorenson decoder available under Linux:

    Developer: Sorenson, would you please let us release a binary only, closed version of your decoder for Xanim?

    Sorenson: Well, we can't help you - Apple has an exclusive contract with us, so they will have to allow it. Go ask them.

    Developer: Apple, would you please let us release a binary only, closed version of your decoder for Xanim?

    Apple: Well, it's not ours to release, it belongs to Sorenson. Go ask them.

    Now, the two of them are squabbling amonst themselves because Sorenson had the gall to let Macromedia have the decoder.

    Boo Hoo Hoo, cry me a river....

    1. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2

      Meanwhile, it is quite easy to play ASF and other Microsoft-formatted files in Linux. Yet, the opprobrium is reserved for Microsoft.

    2. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by cowboy+junkie · · Score: 2

      Well, from my experience, the problem isn't with playing MS's codecs - it's authoring with them. Free tools like VirtualDub and even commercial tools like Premiere prevent you from editing an ASF because MS doesn't want you to (VirtualDub had that feature but removed it because of legal pressure from MS).

    3. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by wowbagger · · Score: 2

      It is only "easy" to play them because the various players emulate enough of a Windows environment to allow Windows DLLs to run. This is only marginally better than no drivers at all since this only works for x86 machines.

      Microsoft is as deserving of detestation in this matter as Apple and Sorenson.

    4. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2

      No. Because Microsoft doesn't threaten to sue anyone who sets up playback in Linux. While Apple/Sorenson do. Apple's willingness to bring in the lawyers is far more detestable - when have you heard of Microsoft menacing a lawsuit against mplayer, Xine, or the like?

    5. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by scrod · · Score: 4, Informative
      Er, yeah they do.
      Today I received a polite phone call from a fellow at Microsoft who works in the Windows Media group. He informed me that Microsoft has intellectual property rights on the ASF format and told me that, although I had reverse engineered it, the implementation was still illegal since it infringed on Microsoft patents. I have asked for the specific patent numbers, since I find patenting a file format a bit strange. At his request, and much to my own sadness, I have removed support for ASF in VirtualDub 1.3d, since I cannot risk a legal confrontation. This unfortunately means that I can no longer redistribute versions of VirtualDub older than V1.3d.
    6. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by namespan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or when have they ever claimed intellectual property in any other open (*cough* GL *cough*) standard? Or the GPL in general?

      MS and Apple are different beasts, and concerned about different things... though they both do stupid things frequently, they both have an element of control-freak culture. The difference is that Apple's is balanced with taste, innovation, and an actual desire to satisfy the consumers in their market. Microsoft's is balanced with.... um.... give me a minute here..... nothing?

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    7. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2

      Fair enough - Microsoft is in the IP-hoarding game, too. Still, there do seem to be plenty of ASF players in Linux land, why aren't they getting C&D letters?

    8. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 2
      No. Because Microsoft doesn't threaten to sue anyone who sets up playback in Linux.

      Conspiracy theory: It doesn't serve MS (yet) to sue people for playing ASF files on Linux.. They're still fighting for a killer share of the market (mostly from RealPlayer). Once they get that , they won't have any need to keep Linux user placated.... then they will sue to disable the use of those codecs.

      One stone two birds.... Nice shot.

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    9. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 2

      Personally, I'd wait until he gave you the patent numbers before removing the code. No reason to give them an easy kill.

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    10. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by cookd · · Score: 1

      Actually, it always has been, and probably always will be, in Microsoft's best interests to allow ASF players anywhere. You just have to understand their motivation properly. It is in Microsoft's best interest to get players on as many computers as possible, so they are perfectly willing to tolerate people using Linux to watch ASF videos. On the other hand, it is seriously damaging to Microsoft's best interests to let unlicensed 3rd parties create certain kinds of ASF stream editors.

      Why?

      Because from what I can tell (definitely NOT insider information, just from experience working with MS on ASF issues) Microsoft created ASF simply to sell server software. You have to have a server to stream ASF media. Driving sales of the Windows client isn't the first priority (otherwise they wouldn't have made a Mac client or a Solaris client, and they definitely would have said something about the Linux work going on). And as far as I can sense (which isn't all that far, to tell the truth) the server people are going to continue to drive the ASF format, meaning that it might even be in MS's interest to write a Linux client (ok, you're right, that is a bit crazy).

      On the other hand, MS doesn't want anybody messing with the format or making editors that go beyond the rules imposed by MS. This is because the people who pay for ASF (the people who run media servers and therefore purchase Windows Server) want to be sure their content is "properly consumed." If the content is streamed, they don't want a 3rd party program recreating the original ASF file from the stream. If the content has DRM flags, they don't want a 3rd party program turning the flags off. Microsoft inspires confidence in the format (thus improving Windows Server sales) by sending C&D letters to programmers distributing unauthorized programs dealing with ASF.

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    11. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by dossen · · Score: 1

      Then I take it that they are going to C&D sourceforge any time now, since they host a program to recreate asf files from streams.
      In fact I'm surprised this program is still around, think it's years since I first came across it.
      It is actually quite nice, I've used it to download clips that where too big for my connection, nothing removes skips and frezes like dropping the file to the local disk. Plus you get to watch it as often as you want, without spending time/money on downloading/streaming it again.

    12. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sayd the mac zealot ...

    13. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well do virtualDub support plugins ? If it does why not Hmmm lose the ASF plugin code somewhere ? Then you would have anything to do with it.

    14. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by tgrigsby · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, as long as M$ holds the patent (if they do in fact hold a patent, and I suspect they do) and as long as the software is free, they've got you by the short and curlies. If yours was a for-profit operation, you'd be able to factor the cost back into the price of the software and continue to cater to the larger market.

      I applaud the open source movement, but this is one of the hits you take. So long as your product supports formats that are not controlled by M$, I'm sure you'll be successful.

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    15. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by jaysedai · · Score: 1

      That's not the point. Everybody here (as well as Apple) are missing the main point; Sorenson Spark and Sorenson Video are VERY different products, and not related in the slightest. As I understand it, Spark is based largely on H.263, whereas Sorenson Video 3 is very proprietary and frankly much better.

      Sorenson didn't violate their contract with Apple. Sorenson Video is still QuickTime exclusive. Sorenson Spark pro is Flash exclusive. They aren't compatible, they aren't interchangeable in any way. I don't see the problem.

      The only similarity the technologies have is the fact that they both start with the word "Sorenson". It's like saying that Adobe Postscript and Adobe Photoshop are the same thing because they both start with the word "Adobe".

      IMO, Apple doesn't have any solid ground to stand on in this lawsuit.

    16. Re:Oh boo hoo hoo! by Cryptnotic · · Score: 2

      Maybe they're also planning to fuck aviplay (which supports ASF in Linux/Unix).

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  17. Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should be. by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Insightful
    You'd think Apple would be a little more anxious to promote open file formats.

    Consinder: The only thing that makes platform relevant in modern times (other than number of games available) is the ability of users to interoperate in a networked environment -- to open word processing documents, spreadsheets, presentations, etc. Other than that, people use their computers for largely platform-independant applications (surfing for porn and emailing prison inmates -- or is that just me?).

    Given the rise of near-universal networking, you'd think that Apple would see this as their big second change. In fact, given their recent PR, it seems that at least part of the organization "gets" this. And yet, Apple continues to develop and promote decidedly unopen formats like Quicktime, which are definately not friendly to alternative platforms.

    Maybe someone needs to drive to Cupertino, take Steve to Denny's and explain the concept of karma over a couple cups of coffee and some cheese sticks. Mmm... Cheese sticks.

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  18. I know who will win by Infonaut · · Score: 3, Insightful
    the lawyers :-)

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  19. unresearched by Snuffub · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Looks like good old Steve is back to his old self :-)"

    exactly what thats supposed to mean is beyond me. There are good reasons to sue people you know. one of them being if your company signs an exclusive deal with another company for a product then that company turns around and sells the product to a competitor.

    oh wait! thats what happened in this case.

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    1. Re:unresearched by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Good old Steve" is in reference to the litigation-happy days when Jobs was CEO of Apple in the 80's, suing Microsoft, Adobe, and everyone else who displeased him.

    2. Re:unresearched by gwernol · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Good old Steve" is in reference to the litigation-happy days when Jobs was CEO of Apple in the 80's, suing Microsoft, Adobe, and everyone else who displeased him.

      Unfortunately that's factually incorrect. Apple sued Microsoft in 1988, four years after Steve was kicked out of Apple. In fact he was sued by Apple the year after he left in 1985: see this. So the Apple-Microsoft suit had nothing to do with Mr. Jobs. Whatever his faults he doesn't seem to be particularly litigous.

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    3. Re:unresearched by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fine. In that case, by "Good old Steve" I'm sure that the post-er meant it as a reference to Apple's litigious past. Steve Jobs, being synomous with Apple. Actually I thought that "Good old Steve" referred to Apple's desire to keep everything proprietary. There has always been a problem between compatibility between Apple's components and the rest of the PC world. Lots of people thought that moving to BSD signaled Apple's change in thinking. Apparently this isn't the case.

    4. Re:unresearched by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What further research is needed? Your argument holds in regards to legality but Apple suppressed people from moving to Linux by not releasing a player for Linux. People have a reason to be pissed and place blame on 'good old steve'. I think of this lawsuit as poetic justice.

    5. Re:unresearched by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 1
      In fact he [Steve Jobs] was sued by Apple the year after he left in 1985

      It ust be that the "good old Steve is back to his old self" comment means "back to his old self" in the sense of being sued.

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    6. Re:unresearched by HeUnique · · Score: 2

      Ahhm,

      If you do some research, you'll find that the sorenson codec in flash based products (Flash MX etc..) is very different from the version that is bundled with Quicktime..

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    7. Re:unresearched by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Your argument holds in regards to legality ... which is all that matters a fuck ..

      >but Apple suppressed people from moving to Linux

      boo fucking hoo.

    8. Re:unresearched by Anthony+Boyd · · Score: 2
      "Good old Steve" is in reference to the litigation-happy days when Jobs was CEO of Apple in the 80's, suing Microsoft, Adobe, and everyone else who displeased him.
      Unfortunately that's factually incorrect. Apple sued Microsoft in 1988, four years after Steve was kicked out of Apple.

      Dude, shut up with all these facts and being reasonable and shit. This is slashdot and we're trying to have a gripefest here.

      Geeze. We try to bullshit about the good old days and suddenly there are all these fuckin' historians getting all historic and stuff.

  20. correct me if I'm wrong... by bigbigbison · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But wasn't one of the points of Apple's lawsuit to prevent Sorenson from making money that Apple claims Sorenson weren't entitled to?

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  21. Mmmm, sounds delicious.... by L.+VeGas · · Score: 3, Funny

    Applesue Sorenson

  22. What constitutes a *new* version of the codec? by ashebanow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The central issue seems to be: is the Spark codec a "new" codec, which would not be covered by the exclusive agreement, or a simple renaming of the existing codec to get around the exclusive license?

    1. Re:What constitutes a *new* version of the codec? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Ironically, Apple itself has a history of renaming an existing product to get out of a licensing agreement. That is exactly what Steve Jobs did to the Mac clone makers when what was essentially the next rev of Mac OS 7 (it sure wasn't Copland) became "Mac OS 8" and Steve successfully claimed all the existing agreements did not cover the "new" OS.

    2. Re:What constitutes a *new* version of the codec? by doce · · Score: 1

      Copeland was a lost cause and wouldn't ever be a worthwhile cause regardless of the amount of money Apple threw at it.

      I think it's more accurate to say that OS 8 was called OS 8 more to entice consumers to buy the "new OS" than it was an attempt to end around licensing. Honestly, if Apple hadn't ended cloning, they probably would have faced investor lawsuits. They were bleeding so much red ink that, if cloning continued, there wouldn't have been anything to clone in another year or so.

      As well, Apple actually wound up having to BUY some of the cloners (or, at least, their remaining assets) to get out of licensing. Specifically Power Computing; the other cloners weren't doing enough cloning to really care. UMAX and Motorola both had significant other business segments. Power Computing did not....

      Apple's licensing the OS was good for consumers, but it wound up being very bad for virtually all of the companies involved. Power Computing was the only serious player and they operated at such razor thin margins that they didn't stand much of a chance. They were a major employer here in the Austin area and their problems were well known locally long before cloning ended.

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    3. Re:What constitutes a *new* version of the codec? by Saint+Fnordius · · Score: 2

      Your example is, well, wrong. Apple killed the clone market by buying their biggest contender outright (Power Computing) and by letting the ROM licences expire without renewal. That, plus a chilly wind, forced all other out. As a Mac owner who lived through the bump up from 7.6. to 8, I found the changes worth the new integer.

      The Sorenson dust-up isn't about Apple wanting to shut out others as much as Apple's believing that Sorenson was trying to cut them out of the loop. Having the QuickTime logo on the packaging is what counts.

  23. Ask Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Intelligent use of the Moderator system....

    Mod the first 5 posts as +1 Funny.
    (If you don't believe me, see above)

    Is this a form of rebellion, or just laziness?

  24. Not worth it by Grip3n · · Score: 1

    Sorenson's couter sue isn't going to bring their (likely) financial woes to a miracle-like end. Counter sueing on the terms of 'hurting a business from a previous sue' doesn't usually yield any significant paybacks. Sorenson would have better used its time and money developing new codecs - possibly only for Macromedia.

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  25. Ask Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Intelligent use of the Moderator system....

    Mod the first 5 posts as +1 Funny.
    (If you don't believe me, see above)

    Is this a form of rebellion, or just laziness?

    I'm asking a serious question, here. Is there really a reason to mod this post away to oblivion (as it was five minutes ago).

  26. Finally! by Akardam · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Someone else who recommends Denny's cheese sticks!

    Though, I beg to differ on one point. A chocolate shake is the only possible companion for a basket of cheese sticks.

    1. Re:Finally! by Skyshadow · · Score: 2, Offtopic
      A chocolate shake is the only possible companion for a basket of cheese sticks.

      Chocolate shakes are good, but nothing tops a good cup 'o Denny's java. It's good with everything, from the original Grand Slam breakfast to Denny's late-night favorites like the always-good Moons Over My Hammy.

      I consider this in-depth Dennys knowledge proof that I went to high school. Diplomas can be faked, but knowing the contents of the Southern Slam is something that must be learned through hard experience.

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  27. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Your help is requested:

    As many of slashdot's regular readers know, VA Software - owner of this weblog - are in big financial trouble. With the current volatility in the stock-market and downturn in the US economy, there can be little hope of saving anything from the wreckage of VA Linux. It is highly unlikely that slashdot could be sold to another company - the weblog market is overcrowed and the manifest failure of the moderation/karma system will surely seal its fate.

    That is where you - the reader - step in, slashdot's editors will soon be looking for new jobs and they need your help. Please post possible career options in a reply to this post. We wouldn't be able to offer a cruiser as a prize this time but the best suggestions will win a lifetime's supply of toilet paper, courtesy of Larry Augustin's stock options.

    A few notes: there are some obvious jobs that slashdot's editors would love - donkey sperm extractor or human toilet - but do bear in mind that, as the opensource movement demonstrates, a hobby you love may not translate into gainful employment. Also don't insult the editors by suggesting jobs they couldn't possibly do; I'm thinking particularly of anything requiring basic english skill or skill in proper computer languages like C.

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  28. [xdfgf] Porn: BlowJob Tips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Please read this Jamie. You need improvement.

    LESSON ONE

    I am not sure if it was because I grew up in a household with
    brothers or whether I would have had the same feelings and
    inclinations had I been an only child but I do know that from the
    time of my earliest memories I have been fascinated with penises.
    Let's talk about the "basic penis." I regard oral sex as the
    highest form of expression of love that can be exchanged between
    two people. Hopefully this information will help you to break down
    any barriers which you might have that would prevent you from
    expressing your love in this way and from receiving a
    reciprocation from your male companion.
    First things first. LOOK at the cock. I do not mean a
    cursory glance not a hurried, surreptitious examination. Take
    enough time that you convince your companion that some kind of
    treat is in store for him provided he will allow you to do with
    him, and particularly with his cock, exactly what you want.
    Place him flat on his back on your bed, in a well lighted
    room. Take his cock in your hand and LOOK at it. He probably will
    not have the will power to stay soft, but then again you are
    worshipping his very essence. Few men can stay soft under these
    circumstances, when it is apparent that the person LOOKING at his
    cock is worshipping.
    When you first start to touch him, his cock will become hard
    and be in a state where your examination will be meaningful.
    Wouldn't it be nice if going to the doctor for an examination was
    as enriching?
    The cock must be hard if you are to be able to note the
    important parts-those parts sensitive to stimulation by your lips
    and tongue.
    The first thing you will note is whether or not he is
    circumcised. Circumcision is not universally practiced: there are
    advantages and disadvantages to penises in both conditions from
    the standpoint of providing oral caresses that bring the highest
    kind of delight to your man.
    Next take a close look at the shaft of the penis itself.
    There is a bulbous part of the organ near the outer end, slightly
    larger in diameter than the shaft, which is often called the head.
    Technically this is the glans penis (comes from the Latin glans
    which means acorn. Look at it closely; does kind of look like an
    acorn doesn't it?)
    The outside perimeter of the glans penis is the corona. This
    joins the head to the shaft. This is the most sensitive spot on
    the penis. It is toward this ridge that you will direct most of
    your attention when you are giving head. Follow this ridge around
    to the underside of the penis. You know that I like to call it the
    underbelly. I am particularly fond of the underbelly!
    You will notice a point of juncture where the two ends of
    this irregular circle come together. If your partner is not
    circumcised, this will also be the point where the foreskin is
    attached. This tiny area is easily the most sensitive spot on his
    entire body, and it is possible to bring your partner to climax
    simply by gently tapping the tip of your tongue directly on it.
    Spend time caressing the glans and those areas immediately
    surrounding it.
    Beneath the glans is the shaft of the penis. The shaft does
    not have many nerve endings and does not, therefore, provide a man
    with any high degree of stimulation when caressed either manually
    or with your tongue to the exclusion of the glans penis itself.
    It always amazes me to note the number of confirmed cocksuckers
    who believe that sucking up and down on the shaft will get the guy
    off. That's not it folks! If it works it is because the back of
    your throat is playing tricks on his glans penis. Your throat is
    giving head to his head!
    Beneath the shaft are the testicles (balls, jewels, call
    them what you like, but let's not ignore their significance). The
    testicles are extremely sensitive to pain and are not usually
    considered subject to erotic stimulation to any particular degree.
    Not true! You can add a high degree of pleasure for him by paying
    the right kind of attention to the balls!
    Now lets go back to the shaft of the matter. The opening in
    the tip of the glans penis is the meatus. Here is where the cum
    spurts. (I could have said semen is ejaculated but I did not want
    to sound too professional).
    There are other parts of a man's body which respond with
    alacrity to oral stimulation.
    Many men are particularly sensitive around the nipples. The
    first time I kissed my partner's nipples he shot before I had the
    chance to even get near his cock. While I have not been able to
    duplicate this in the laboratory setting (he hates to go near the
    lab with me) my partner still gets extremely turned on by my
    lingual nipple caresses.
    So LOOK at your partner's penis. Study it. Learn its areas
    of special sensitivity completely and be ready to apply your
    knowledge to his body with your tongue and with your lips when you
    bend your loving head over his cock. There is nothing that you can
    do which more clearly shows your love for him than the worship you
    can provide his cock!

    LESSON TWO

    The sad fact is that most people, men and women, do not have
    the slightest idea of how to suck cock. Most seem to think that
    simply by making a cunt of their mouth, closing it around a man's
    penis, and bobbing their heads lustily up and down until he
    climaxes automatically makes them expert cocksuckers. Au
    contraire!
    Consummate skill is required to suck a man's cock and
    provide him with the highest degree of pleasure possible. When I
    first started my quest I really had no one to turn to for advise
    and counsel. It was all hunt and suck. Hunt and suck. Find that
    one technique that could and would set him on fire! I had to
    learn from my experiences and while I would not want to deny you
    the innate pleasure that these experiences will bring I would hate
    to see you lose a great companion because of your inexperience and
    lack of expertise.
    Let's assume that you have taken that opportunity to LOOK at
    his penis. To explore each area of the penis to find the most
    sensitive parts. That you have gotten beyond "Parts is parts" and
    recognize that some parts are more equal than others.
    In order for you to observe your man's reactions and get the
    most information possible about his responses try the following:
    While his erect penis points toward the ceiling, cup his
    balls in one hand and gently, using only your tongue, lick softly,
    but carefully along the entire underside of his erect organ. As
    you suck along the underbelly you will learn those areas that give
    him the greatest pleasure when your tongue is touching them.
    Unless he is made of stone, your partner will provide you with
    vivid clues as to which areas are most pleasurable.
    As you discover these areas of enhanced pleasure concentrate
    on them. For most men the most sensitive area will be the point
    where the ring (or corona) of the head and the foreskin are
    attached. Or were attached prior to his circumcision. By
    continued licking and tapping along this area with your tongue you
    are going to bring forth a geyser. If you are not skilled and you
    want to please him in a hurry I suggest that you get him off in
    this manner in order to become familiar at first hand with the
    nature and delight of his climax.
    As he is getting ready for climax you will note changes in
    his penis. These signs will be the same every time he climaxes so
    that you can prepare for his cum properly. The head of the cock
    may swell somewhat larger then it is during the normal course of
    his erection. He may thrust his hips forward as he wants to send
    his
    body hurtling out his cock with his cum. And for most men,
    immediately prior to the cum, there will appear at the tiny,
    lovely lips at the tip of the cock a clear drop or two of fluid.
    When you see this or feel the opening at the meateus through his
    condom you know that the moment of truth is at hand. Launch the
    torpedoes, full cum ahead!
    Where should you be when you are sucking his cock? Between
    his legs, on top of him, in a sixty nine position? Where?
    Because of the structure of his penis, as well as the structure of
    your mouth, lips, tongue, and teeth, you can provide the highest
    degree of sensation to yourself and your partner by kneeling
    between his legs and approaching his cock from the bottom rather
    than from the side or the top. Don't believe me? Try the various
    positions (I describe in later chapters techniques to be used with
    each position). See what works best for you and your partner.

    LESSON THREE

    Place his stiff cock inside your mouth but do not tighten
    your lips around the shaft. With your head begin a circle motion.
    The cock will slide to different places in your mouth as you
    continue the circle motion. Watch your teeth on this one. A
    kneeling position will suffice but it is also effective when your
    partner is on his back and your head is directly over his cock.
    The circle should be executed in both clockwise and
    counterclockwise motions in a slow purposeful manner. I found many
    guys in New York who seem to prefer this technique above all
    others. I met one guy who could circle a cock for hours and I
    found myself having multiple orgasms while his mouth circled my
    cock. I didn't lose my hard-on after each cum. When the technique
    is performed correctly it means many hours of unadulterated
    pleasure.

    LESSON FOUR

    With your man sitting in an elevated position and you on
    your knees in front of him lift his hard cock to reveal his balls.
    With your tongue find the underside of his balls. Now, while
    resting his balls on your wet tongue, lick in an upward motion to
    the very tip of his cock. It is permissible to use your hands in
    this technique. It is bettor to do this technique several times
    in succession-like licking a lollipop or ice cream cone. I grew up
    down south. And one thing about.southern boys. We learn early how
    to get if off quickly when the need is there. And the lollipop
    lick is the one technique in this book which few men can tolerate
    for long periods of time without cumming.

    LESSON FIVE

    Right now lets discuss a technique that is probably the
    most common cocksucking technique in the world. Take his cock in
    your mouth but not deeply. We will get to deep throating later
    on. It's great, not over-rated, but if you want to be an expert
    at deep throat start with the right techniques and work your way
    down, so to speak.
    Take his cock in your mouth by sliding your moistened tongue
    lovingly over the head until your lips close around the shaft at
    the point just behind the corona. Don't just open your mouth and
    close it around his cock. Slide it in. He will enjoy it much more.
    Encase the shaft of his penis with your hand. Remember the
    shaft is relatively insensitive to any kind of stimulation. By
    enclosing his penis with your hand you give him the sensation of
    having his penis encased.
    Now you have several options. Try twisting your head from
    side to side making sure your moist lips stay in contact with the
    coronal ridge. While doing this gently move your hand up and down
    the shaft. When he climaxes he may want to push your head further
    down the shaft of his penis. He wants to envelop you with his
    cock. As you are learning his climax you will miss the fine points
    if you deep throat at this time. Instead gently suck around the
    corona as he climaxes so that you can intensify his pleasure and
    increase the force of his orgasm.
    As you gain more experience you will be able to tell exactly
    when his climax is approaching and you will be ready for that
    initial spurt out the rubber.

    LESSON SIX

    There is one further refinement to this basic technique
    which will heighten his orgasm. If you place your thumb at the
    very base of the penis in such a way as to block the tube through
    which the cum spurts, the semen cannot escape even though he is
    spasming and going through the reflex action of ejaculating semen.
    If at the same time you suck vigorously on the head of his
    cock you can delay his cum for several long moments. When you
    finally allow the cum to spurt it will last much longer and be
    just as intense as a result. Even though you delay the cum for
    only a few short moments you will be surprised by the intensity of
    his cum.
    These techniques are the basis of cocksucking. Do not go
    beyond them until you have become an expert, not only in the
    techniques themselves, but also in the reading and interpreting of
    your partner's responses to such a point that you know exactly how
    he is getting off on what you are doing. When you have reached
    this point, you are ready for the more subtle, more advanced
    techniques.
    Don't be so slavish that you miss out on the fun of self
    discovery. Find out what works for you and for your partner and
    make your cocksucking as individual as your signature. After all,
    you want your man to pick you out in the dark among hundred
    slobbering cocksuckers.

    LESSON SEVEN

    One of the first things you encountered when you first
    started to suck cock was a gag reflex. Most men seem to want to
    force their cocks down your throat as far as they can get it.
    Particularly at the moment when they cum!
    Consider for a moment that the average length of your oral
    cavity is three to three and a half inches while the average
    Caucasian cock length is five to five and a half inches. The laws
    of nature would seem to dictate that getting all that cock into
    your mouth is an impossibility.
    It can be done. You probably know someone who can do it and
    that is why you purchased this book to begin with. It is possible
    to master the necessary technique. I don't want to be boring, but
    if you understand your anatomy you will begin to understand the
    requirements that allow you to take his hard cock into your mouth
    and down your throat. The biggest obstacle to taking all of his
    cock down your throat is the fact that there is a bend of almost
    ninety degrees behind your tongue leading down into your throat.
    So the first thing to do is get the cock past that angle.

    Get past the angle of the dangle!

    In order to practice this, get in a position where you can
    turn your head in such a way that your mouth and throat lie almost
    in a straight line. The best position to accomplish this is to lie
    on a bed so that your head is near the edge with your body
    sprawled across the bed so that your head is tipped sharply back.
    This position will put your mouth and throat nearly in a line and
    will allow your partner to approach you in such a way that
    insertion of his cock can be made so deeply that his pubic hair
    presses against your lips.

    LESSON EIGHT

    Today we will practice mastering physical reaction that must
    be alleviated before the art of deep penetration can fully be
    enjoyed. The natural tendency of the body to gag when a foreign
    object such as a deeply thrusting cock being forced down your
    throat. You can overcome this tendency by completely relaxing
    your throat at moment the insertion is made. It is equally
    important that you maintain this relaxation during the entire deep
    throating.
    Let him put his cock down your throat and hold it still
    while you find the most comfortable way to proceed. Because of
    your position you will not be able to move or to offer him any
    greater stimulation than simply keeping your mouth tightly closed
    around his throbbing cock. If you are able try to stimulate his
    underbelly with your tongue, do it!
    You will only be able to relax and take his cock in this way
    if you completely thrust your partner. Your partner is in full
    control. He must initiate and maintain all the motion. This is
    the only exercise in which you relinquish your control of the
    situation to your partner. He will relish this for the simple fact
    that for the first time he can insert his cock as deeply down your
    throat as he wants to. Now your partner begins an in and out
    movement that is just like fucking. He should start slowly,
    especially if this is a completely
    new experience for the two of you. After all if he hurts you he
    cuts himself off from one of the great pleasures in life. His
    only other requirement during this exercise is to keep the motion
    in the same direction throughout this oral exercise as there is
    simply no leeway for him to vary the motion from side to side.

    One other word of caution.

    Don't let your partner get carried away at the moment he
    starts to cum. At that spectacular moment he will be able for the
    first time to thrust his cock all the way inside your oral cavity
    and that is the most important lesson of this exercise! His only
    other requirement during the exercise is to keep the motion in the
    same against your lips as he cums. Because of your position in
    bed you will not be faced with the problem of swallowing his cum.
    And this is not just because he has a condom on his dick. The
    reason is because he has gotten his cock BEYOND your gag reflex!
    Without the rubber his cum would shoot directly into your stomach!
    If both you and your partner understand what it is that you are
    trying to do as well as the possible problems that may "cum" up
    along the way no harm or discomfort will happen to either of you.
    It is possible that not everyone will learn the "deep
    throat" technique but this inability does not make you any less a
    cocksucker. You must allow your throat to relax completely while
    your partner is thrusting his cock this deeply down your throat.
    To do this long enough for your partner to completely get it off
    is very difficult and may require practice beyond this day. It
    may be that you will be able to take your partner completely down
    your throat, but you will not be able to maintain proper
    relaxation of your throat to until he shoots his load. Hopefully
    your partner will understand that this is not a rejection of him
    or of what he is offering you, and it is my sincere desire that
    you not stop here and think that you will never master the "deep
    throat" technique.
    Continue to practice this lesson. I know couples who have
    devoted ten months to this lesson alone. Continue to practice
    this technique because your practice will allow you to take his
    cock deeper into your throat each time and for longer periods of
    time. Ultimately you will succeed. If you have the desire you
    will get this one down pat!

    LESSON NINE

    Now lets turn to another portion of your partner's anatomy
    which should not be ignored-the family jewels. Here are two
    objects which can enhance your partner's feelings more than any
    other. Many people do not think of the balls as primary sexual
    objects. Many men are extremely sensitive and just as in lesson
    eight there must be a certain amount of trust built up between the
    two of you before he will willingly let you have undisputed use of
    these two pearls of delight!
    For today's lesson begin by gently licking his balls with
    your tongue. As your partner becomes more trusting you may begin
    to play with his nipples with your fingers gradually increasing or
    decreasing the intensity as you gauge how he is responding. You
    may want to gently caress his cock with your hand while you are
    bathing his balls with your tongue.
    Remember that the balls are extremely sensitive to pain and
    he will lose his trust in you if you do not respect any limits he
    places on them just as you have the right to place limits on the
    back of your throat until you are completely ready to receive him.
    It is possible once you have built up this trust to take
    both his balls in your mouth. He will be more receptive to this if
    you thoroughly wet them with your tongue prior to taking them into
    your mouth. Unless your partner is into the new fad of complete
    body shaving he will have tiny hairs on his testicles. By giving
    the balls a complete tongue bath prior to taking them into your
    mouth, you will have pressed these hairs down along the surface of
    the sac and will not inadvertently cause pain by pulling on them.
    This may seem a small lesson but you will discover an
    entirely new world of sensations for your partner when you take
    the time to get to know his testicles!

    LESSON TEN

    I hesitated to include this into your lesson plan but
    finally I decided that if you are aware of the most safe way to do
    this technique that my responsibility for giving you the tools to
    be the best cocksucker you can be will be satisfied.

    Analingus.
    Putting your tongue to his anal opening.
    Ass sucking.
    Before you even consider doing this, make certain that your
    partner is clean. Immediately out of the shower. Place a piece of
    Saran wrap over the butt. At no time should your tongue come into
    contact with the anal surface itself.
    For this lesson place your partner on his back with his legs
    in the air and his knees close to his shoulders. This spreads his
    buttocks apart and allows you access to his butthole.
    You are probably under the impression that actual
    penetration of the asshole itself is necessary for your partner to
    receive the most complete enjoyment of this technique. Not so
    mojo! The nerve endings around the anus itself have no
    discrimination and you will get him off just as well and as
    thoroughly by licking around the area as if you stick your tongue
    up his butt!
    As with some of your other lessons this technique will not
    usually be enough to get him to cum, but I feel that it is
    important to know all aspects of your partner's body in order to
    give him the most complete pleasure you can. You may find that
    after many hours of oral pleasure you need to have other areas to
    concentrate on in order to give him the satisfaction he deserves.
    Analingus is a powerful stimulant and when combined with
    other activities such as vigorous hand stimulation on his cock
    will cause a rapid and powerful cum!

    LESSON ELEVEN

    For most of our lessons the only thing required is yourself,
    your partner, and a condom. Maybe some Saran wrap. A plastic glove
    or two. Well, another toy that will enhance your pleasure is a
    mini-
    vibrator. For this lesson you may want to start with your finger.
    Then as you and your partner become more accustomed to each other
    you may find him a little intrigued about the vibrator and what it
    can do for him.
    As you are giving head begin a slow playful search around
    his
    ass. Many men are particularly sensitive in this area and it will
    enhance the sensations that your mouth and tongue and throat are
    giving his cock to feel a finger playing with his butt. As your
    partner relaxes and allows you access, gently insert your gloved
    finger into his butt. Go slowly exploring the velvety sensations
    along the sides of his opening.
    When your finger is inside his asshole completely you will
    be at the area of the prostate gland. Massage of this gland by
    your finger will produce some of the most delightful sensations
    your partner has yet to experience. I remember going to the
    doctor for a physical the first time I felt this sensation. I
    could hardly wait to get home and have my partner try it out on me
    again. While it was a bit embarrassing to cum in the doctor's
    office, the feelings that the doctor inadvertently produced were
    so strong that I wanted to experience them again and again!
    A gloved finger is really all that is required for this
    lesson. However some members of the Cocksuckers Club of America
    report to me that a mini-vibrator works exceptionally well for
    this type of stimulus. It is just the same length as the average
    finger and due to the vibrations that it produces the sensations
    against the prostate gland are even more enhanced!
    If your partner likes this stimulation you must then
    discover which method he likes best. Some men prefer an in an out
    movement with the finger or the vibrator while others do not. I
    personally find this painful--too much like a stab in the dark. I
    prefer the finger or vibrator to be placed against the prostate
    gland and left there to do its most. Whichever method your partner
    prefers is the one you should use.
    One other point. When your partner cums there will be a
    natural tendency for him to push the finger or vibrator out of his
    asshole. The asshole muscles are spasming and anything in the way
    will be forced out. But to maximize his pleasure you must not let
    this happen. Hold your finger or the vibrator firmly in place--
    this will help to stimulate the sperm production to its maximum.
    Many people have questioned me about a vibrator around the
    cock itself. Does it add to the sensation or not?
    It does for my partner, it does not for me. That seems to be
    the consensus of opinion of other readers of FRENCH CUISINE
    MAGAZINE as well. I suggest as long as you have the vibrator handy
    anyway, try it around the penis. When you are licking his balls.
    When you are licking his asshole. If he gets off on it, then feel
    free to use the vibrator around his dick and balls. If he hates
    the sensation obviously don't try it again.

    LESSON TWELVE

    There are times when you will want to get him off in a
    hurry! I always say that Southern boys learn this one first and
    then expand their repertory from that point. But because I want
    you to become an expert at all aspects of oral lovemaking I
    deliberately waited until now to introduce this technique. It
    differs from lesson four in that you are a more consummate
    cocksucker now. He will love it all the more if he realizes that
    this is not the only trick you have down your mouth!
    It is a very simple technique and if you understand your
    partner's basic cock anatomy you will grasp this one easily.
    Place your lips around the head of your partner's cock and twirl
    your lips wetly and gently around the coronal ridge at the back of
    the head of his penis. This does not require any great
    cocksucking skill and it works simply because this is the area
    that is most sensitive on your partner's cock.
    It is not necessary to be a skillful cocksucker. All that
    is necessary is for you to find the most sensitive area around the
    coronal area. By sucking on this area of his cock continuously
    you will produce a quick powerful cum. It is not necessary to bob
    your head up and down on his cock to get him off. One other use
    of this technique is to get him hard again after he cums and you
    will soon find him rip roaring to go
    again.

    LESSON THIRTEEN

    Don't be surprised if you find yourself going back to this
    lesson for seconds. We discussed briefly at the end of lesson 12
    a technique to get him going again if he has recently cum. Today
    after you have gotten your man off, lets concentrate on some
    techniques to get him back on again. Not just to get him hard but
    to keep him hard. Hard enough to want to cum again!
    After he has cum you may need other techniques to keep him
    hard and to keep him interested. Many men (not all but a good
    portion of us) are exhausted by a single cum and while it is
    possible to get your partner up again you have a long way to go
    before you get him to cum again.
    Cocksucking alone at this time is usually not enough to get
    him off. You will need to combine some of the techniques you have
    learned earlier with your basic cocksucking technique to stimulate
    the juices for a second and third go around. Don't hesitate in
    your exploration of his body at this time. His nipples, his balls,
    his asshole. His armpits. His earlobes.
    For the second cum you are free to really get into his body
    and explore all those erotic areas that you missed when you were
    concentrating on his cock exclusively. His navel. His toes.
    One of the things I find most exciting about the second cum
    is the lack of expectation that you must get him to climax within
    a certain time frame. You have all the time in the world to
    really give his total body a complete tongue bath. You can
    explore his body safely and completely and really get to know the
    total body as well as you know his delightful dick! This is
    merely a sign that you are becoming a true connoisseur of
    cockflesh. A title I am proud to hold.

    LESSON FOURTEEN

    Soixante-Neuf
    Sixty Nine

    Sixty nine is not always the perfect way to provide your
    partner oral satisfaction. Inadvertently one of you will "let up"
    your end of the cocksucking in order to experience the subtle
    pleasures the other partner is giving you. For this reason I have
    included it as the final lesson. Many people think that the deep
    throat technique is the ultimate pleasure you can give your
    partner. Actually I believe that sixty-nine is the ultimate
    pleasure.
    Done correctly and unselfishly when both of you are
    completely in tune with each others innermost desires, the sixty
    nine is the ultimate. But because of the problem mentioned earlier
    in this lesson, most people practice it too early and it becomes
    an intensely satisfying experience for one partner at the expense
    of the other. When you are completely on each other's wavelength
    you will discover that this is the most effective way of giving as
    well as receiving pleasure.
    The element that must be in place is simple: Both of you
    must
    be consummate cocksuckers! If you have a partner who is not in
    the least interested in giving head and only likes to receive it
    then to attempt sixty-nine is to ask for unhappiness in your
    relationship.

    TECHNIQUES

    As editor of FRENCH CUISINE MAGAZINE I sometimes send out
    questionnaires to our members to find out more. I question them
    about their desires, and their favorite ways to practice safe and
    sane oral sex
    Here are some of the most popular variations on cocksucking.

    THE BUTTERFLY FLUTTER

    The best position for this very sensuous cocksucking
    movement is kneeling over your partner. If he is on his back kneel
    between his legs. Or kneel in front of your partner while he
    stands. I like this position because the cock feels thicker in
    your mouth and throat and you have complete freedom to play with
    his balls while performing this maneuver.
    This technique was first introduced to me by a cocksucker in
    northern California. There was a notorious movie theater in
    downtown San Francisco with a darkened balcony. A cocksucker's
    haven. And this guy had us lined up. You knew from the moans
    emanating from the guy's throat who was getting his cock sucked
    that this guy was that one in a thousand who knew how to please a
    variety of fresh cockmeat. It felt so good that I studied him
    closely while he was sucking cock. Not only did I observe the guys
    who were getting the radical suck, but I got down close to the
    cock and observed how he was maneuvering around it. He created the
    basic vacuum pressure on the cock but only enough pressure to pull
    the cock into his mouth ever so slightly.
    With his lips firmly wrapped around the guy's big swollen
    cock head and shaft he would gently flick the tip of the cock with
    his tongue. With his lips open around the cock at a depth so that
    he could touch the tip of the cock with the tip of his tongue.
    With his lips around the cock shaft he would make an up and down
    movement with his tongue. He would flutter his tongue up and down
    the tip of the cock.
    I recommend you try it. It will drive your Butterfly Flutter
    partner back into your mouth at any hour you want him there. After
    several minutes of this continue with the basic vacuum suck.

    THE TRAVELING FIGURE EIGHT

    After you have become comfortable with the basic vacuum suck
    and you have become accustomed to his cock deep in your mouth and
    throat try this action. It is guaranteed to take his
    breath away. With your lips firmly wrapped around the cock shaft
    try very slowly to reach the base of the shaft or as close to it
    as you are comfortable. Your nose should be buried in or at least
    touching the pubic hairs at the base of the cock.
    With your nose trace a figure eight as if the figure eight
    were lying on it's side. Your figure eight motion should be three
    to four inches long. Slowly travel up the shaft of the cock to
    the head, doing the figure eight motion. Keep doing this motion
    and let your lips firmly travel up and down the cock shaft. Do
    this for as long as you are comfortable with it. Believe me your
    man is floating in orbit as his wildest dreams of the ultimate
    blow job are coming true.
    I give credit for this most erogenous technique to a member
    of "The Cocksuckers Club of America" who lives in Oregon. He and
    his partner were on vacation down in Southern California and they
    visited me while here. After seeing him scrape his partner off the
    ceiling when he did the Traveling Figure Eight, I rushed right
    into my bedroom and perfected it on my own partner! When you get
    tired of the movement slow down and return to the basic vacuum
    suck.

    By this time you are becoming more and more confident with
    your partner. His cock feels great as it fills your mouth and
    throat. The cock is becoming harder and warmer as your warm moist
    mouth and throat create friction by going up and down that big
    beautiful cock. It is time to cool his tool just a little with
    this technique.
    I take full credit for this one myself! From tho time I hit
    puberty I was fascinated by cocks. Big ones, little ones, cut
    ones, uncut ones, crooked ones, straight ones. All shapes, all
    sizes. I wanted to feel them down my throat! Combine this very
    basic love of cocksucking with an inherent fear of not being able
    to take cock and completely satisfy the customer and you can
    imagine how I felt. I needed a technique that would feel good in
    my mouth and would feel good for my partner. Here's what I came up
    with:

    Go down on the cock shaft as far as you are comfortable. All
    the while your lips should be firmly wrapped around the shaft.
    Open your mouth as wide as you can and suck in as much air as your
    lungs will hold. While sucking in air let your open mouth travel
    up to the cock head. Your up stroke motion should end at the head
    of his cock just as your lungs fill with air. Now with your mouth
    still open let the air in your lungs out slowly through your mouth
    as your opened mouth travels back down the cock shaft. This
    technique cools the cock on the up stoke and warms the cock with
    your hot breath on the down stroke. Do this movement as long as
    you like then return to the basic vacuum suck method.

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    You are doing just fine and he loves it!

    Keep it up as long as you are comfortable with it.

    For his added pleasure and to give you something to play
    with reach up and fondle his balls. Or go up even further and
    play with his nipples. This will give him something else to
    concentrated on so he doesn't pop his cock yet. If you feel he is
    about to cum stop what you are doing and let him cool off for a
    few minutes. After all you are having fun and you want to enjoy
    his cock as much as you can until you get tired of it. Then let
    him pop his cock! But not yet. He likes it too much and he wants
    it to last as long as you can keep it going.

    THE CIRCLE

    Place his stiff cock inside your mouth but do not tighten
    your lips around the shaft. With your head begin a circle motion.
    The cock will slide to different places in your mouth as you
    continue the circle motion. Watch your teeth on this one.
    A kneeling position will suffice but it is also effective
    when your partner is on his back and your head is directly over
    his cock. The circle should be executed in both clockwise and
    counterclockwise motions in a slow purposeful manner.

    THE LOLLIPOP LICK

    With your man sitting in an elevated position and you on
    your knees in front lift his hard cock to reveal his balls. With
    your tongue find the underside of his balls. Now, while resting
    his balls on your wet tongue, lick in an upward motion to the very
    tip of his cock. It is permissible to use your hands in this
    technique. It is better to do this technique several times in
    succession-like licking a lollipop or ice cream cone.

  29. Re:It's almost funny - We need your help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Your help is requested:

    As many of slashdot's regular readers know, VA Software - owner of this weblog - are in big financial trouble. With the current volatility in the stock-market and downturn in the US economy, there can be little hope of saving anything from the wreckage of VA Linux. It is highly unlikely that slashdot could be sold to another company - the weblog market is overcrowed and the manifest failure of the moderation/karma system will surely seal its fate.

    That is where you - the reader - step in, slashdot's editors will soon be looking for new jobs and they need your help. Please post possible career options in a reply to this post. We wouldn't be able to offer a cruiser as a prize this time but the best suggestions will win a lifetime's supply of toilet paper, courtesy of Larry Augustin's stock options.

    A few notes: there are some obvious jobs that slashdot's editors would love - donkey sperm extractor or human toilet - but do bear in mind that, as the opensource movement demonstrates, a hobby you love may not translate into gainful employment. Also don't insult the editors by suggesting jobs they couldn't possibly do; I'm thinking particularly of anything requiring basic english skill or skill in proper computer languages like C.

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  30. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by tomierna · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Of course you are being a troll here - QuickTime is the basis for MPEG4's file format.

    The Sorenson codec is proprietary, as is the Cinepak codec, one of the suggested Quicktime codecs for use with Xanim.

    Oddly enough, Apple's Quicktime 6, also supports some very fine standards, like the officially sanctioned MPEG4 codecs (not the bastardized pre-standards "MS-MPG4"), the MPEG 1 & 2 codecs, and MJPEG.

    Open standards are obviously different than open source, but the net effect to interoperability is the same.

    Plus, you can't take Steve to Denny's for cheese sticks - he's Vegan.

  31. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I wouldn't hire a VA "Software" employee to empty my cat's litter box.

    Hey ESR! How are those stock options working out?

  32. Good old Steve -suing again by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 1

    Looks like good old Steve is back to his old self :-)

    Wow, its great to see Steve suing again. I was wondering what happened to him. You know? I can still remember the time he sued me.

    Yep, those were the good o'l days.

  33. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 3, Insightful
    And yet, Apple continues to develop and promote decidedly unopen formats like Quicktime, which are definately not friendly to alternative platforms.

    And unfortunately those platforms are not very friendly back. I'm beginning to think QuickTime is Apples own worse enemy here - given how long they (or Sorensen) have been jerking open source video makers around, I wasn't surprised to read that an old version of Sorenson had been cracked. How long can it be until the latest versions are too? And what will that mean for the lawsuits?

    I, by the way, don't know what to think. Surely Sorenson and Apple have rights to their own creations, but on the other Natalie Portman was available only in their proprietary format. That is like a big neon sign to the geek community saying "Come on, crack me!".

    If I was going to create a closed codec, I'd make damn sure there were players for pretty much every platform out there. I'd make high quality players for Windows, Linux and maybe the Mac, and then a library for everybody else so people can write their own players if they need to. Otherwise, the moment good content gets encoded using it, by by secrects.

  34. bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    maybe it is just part of apple scrapping with macromedia

  35. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by tweder · · Score: 1

    There's a good chance that Steve may accept your offer for coffe, but he'll pass on the cheese sticks...

    He's a vegan.

  36. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by Skyshadow · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    I wouldn't hire a VA "Software" employee to empty my cat's litter box.

    Hey ESR! How are those stock options working out?

    Interestingly, he's using them to line his cat's litter box.

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  37. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by Skyshadow · · Score: 2

    That's okay; I have it on good authority that no actual biological entities are in any way responsible for the various items on the Denny's menu.

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  38. Ask Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Intelligent use of the Moderator system....

    Mod the first 5 posts as +1 Funny.
    (If you don't believe me, change your threshhold and check the first 5 posts)

    Is this a form of rebellion, or just laziness?

  39. In other news.. by A_Non_Moose · · Score: 2

    Sorenson announced the Nosneros codec for Macromedia products.

    After all, it worked for Microsoft nimda's...errrr...admins, I meant *admins*.

    Oops.

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  40. I know who will lose by Sebby · · Score: 1

    consumers.

    (sorry, had to)

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    1. Re:I know who will lose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not consumers. Apple consumers. But thats ok, all the gays who use Apples products are used to getting fucked in the ass.

    2. Re:I know who will lose by Sebby · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, the typical rantings of an AC

      <fuck>you</fuck>

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  41. Steve is now Suing GOD! by linuxislandsucks · · Score: 1

    Lawyer: Steve you can not sue GOD!
    Steve: yes we can Yes we can yes we can!
    Lawyer: Why?
    Steve: Why NOT?!

    Gun shot heard as lawyer shots himself..

    Gee I guess there is a use for Steve P Jobs after all! :)

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  42. Video in Flash by theolein · · Score: 2

    The original suite(sp?) was because Apple was terrified that FlashMX producers would use it it to make video using the Sorenson spark codec. The fear is justified because just about everybody has the Flash plug-in and far fewer have the QuickTime plug-In.

    My opinion is that Apple is sometimes just plain dumb. If they had just bothered to include the Spark codec in the QuickTime6 engine then everything would have been fine: Video makers and web developers will not go to the extra lengths of having to embed the video in a Flash movie (Time is money!) gladly and would have just made Quicktime movies as per usual. However, it seems Apple didn't think about picking up the phone and calling a few web agencies to ask about the workflow there.

    Sometimes they deserve a little slap around the face to wake them up and point them to the world again.

    1. Re:Video in Flash by PCM2 · · Score: 3, Informative
      The original suite(sp?) was because Apple was terrified that FlashMX producers would use it it to make video using the Sorenson spark codec. The fear is justified because just about everybody has the Flash plug-in and far fewer have the QuickTime plug-In.
      Not really. The way Macromedia people have described it to me, the Spark codec really works best for things like talking heads, webcams and the like. Nobody expects anyone to use Flash to stream first-run feature films. Another big benefit of the Spark codec for Macromedia is that it's TINY ... something like 100K. Keeping the size of the Flash plug-in small is one of their top priorities.
      My opinion is that Apple is sometimes just plain dumb. If they had just bothered to include the Spark codec in the QuickTime6 engine then everything would have been fine: Video makers and web developers will not go to the extra lengths of having to embed the video in a Flash movie (Time is money!)
      Again, not quite accurate. Flash has much greater market penetration than QuickTime. And it's not as easy to build applications for streaming video with QuickTime as with Flash...
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    2. Re:Video in Flash by theolein · · Score: 2

      Why would it be easier to build streaming video applications in Flash? I'm sorry but I don't understand this really. The application that people use to watch the streaming video, as I see it, is the media player itself i.e. QuickTime or WMP or RealOne. In Flash, making a streaming video application involves embedding the video in a Flash Movie and then setting up action scripted controls for it (I'm not an expert, and I suppose it's not really that difficult, but time consuming in any case). In QT etc, one would make the movie in some video application and the finished product would already be ready to be streamed (Cleaner6 etc) without having to do anything extra such as embedding.

  43. Just the facts, man by marxmarv · · Score: 4, Informative
    I wasn't surprised to read that an old version of Sorenson had been cracked. How long can it be until the latest versions are too?
    You didn't read the thread well enough. Someone did in fact crack SVQ3 but refused to release it with their own name on it, and several folks advised them to release it anonymously, ala the RC4-compatible arcfour module. (Oh, that was a fun Usenet thread)
    And what will that mean for the lawsuits?
    The most curious thing about that whole thread was a marketing manager for Sorenson posting a note that they don't mind the use of their file formats if it's done in an approved fashion or some such rot, and recommended holding off for the next 30-60 days pending certain announcements. I think it was moderated up to 2, so I had to have been really bored to find it.
    If I was going to create a closed codec, I'd make damn sure there were players for pretty much every platform out there. I'd make high quality players for Windows, Linux and maybe the Mac, and then a library for everybody else so people can write their own players if they need to.
    Yeah, but you're a /. weenie and probably wouldn't create a binary-only codec anyway. Besides SVQ1 wasn't much more than H.323 with a slightly tricky codebook and some obligatory scrambling in an attempt to keep people out.
    Otherwise, the moment good content gets encoded using it, by by secrects.
    It took something like two years (+/- 50%) for SVQ1 to be cracked, and slightly less time for SVQ3. The QDomain music codec remains imprisoned, and without that no one's going to watch QT trailers on Linux.

    -jhp

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  44. Sorenson's diversifying because... by enota · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Apple's new golden codec is MPEG-4. True, Sorenson is going to release MPEG-4 encoders soon, all the effort that went into sorenson 3 looks to be wasted. How do you make money off of a codec after apple basically abandons it? Re-tool slightly, and sell it to a competitor that would love to get their hands on a sorenson codec. I can see why they are both pissed. Apple pushes a competitor (MPEG-4) and Sorenson makes up for this by selling their codec to a competitor (Macromedia). In my opinion, Apple is the jerk in this situation. They build up this huge relationship over the years, then they drop Sorenson for MPEG-4 in a second.

  45. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by fferreres · · Score: 2

    QuickTime is the basis for MPEG4's file format.

    Can we have some info on this? How is the MPEG4 Quicktime based ...

    Oddly enough, Apple's Quicktime 6, also supports some very fine standards

    Woah, hold no a second. QT does not support any standard. It is just ABLE to play (not sure if encode) files based on open standards. That's for the very reason that the formats are open, not because Apple is nice. They promote the LOCKED soreson as the encoding format, so as to bother everyone else that doesn't have a Mac. They don't even allow QT to play on Linux, BSD and many other OSs. They I fact try to prevent everyone else from viewing movies created on Mac machines.

    I am very sorry, but it looks more like your are the one trolling.

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  46. Legal Scoreboard by usr122122121 · · Score: 2, Redundant
    Apple: 1
    Sorenson: 1
    Us: 0

    doesn't that mean Microsoft: 2?

    IMHO: it makes no sense for these two companies to be battle this out [and waste (their|our) money] when there are bigger (fish|borgs) to fry.

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  47. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by Cryptosporidium · · Score: 1
    Can we have some info on this? How is the MPEG4 Quicktime based ...

    Apple - MPEG-4:

    While audio and video are at the core of the MPEG-4 specification, MPEG-4 can also support 3D objects, sprites, text and other media types.

    Sound familiar? It should. You've been able to mix media with Apple's QuickTime technology for over a decade, storing each new type in a separate track. With this kind of extensibility, it's no surprise that the ISO chose the QuickTime file format as the foundation for the new MPEG-4 standard.

    Or, how about this TechWeb article from 1998?
    The QuickTime file format will be used to store digital video and audio content displayed using the MPEG-4 video standard being developed by the ISO. Six companies co-authored the QuickTime format.

    The six -- Apple, IBM, Netscape, Oracle, Silicon Graphics, and Sun Microsystems -- said in a joint statement they "look forward to collaborating with other companies and industry bodies to further refine the specification and QuickTime file format -- ensuring that MPEG-4 quickly gains market acceptance."

  48. Dear Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Dear Apple,

    I ama homosexual. I boughtan Apple computer because of its well earned reputation for being "the" gay computer. Since I have become an Apple owner, I have been exposed to a whole new world of gay friends. It is really a pleasure to meet and compute with other homos such as myself. I plan on using my new Apple computer as a way to entice and recruit young schoolboys into the homosexual lifestyle; it would be so helpful if you could produce more software which would appeal to young boys. Thanks in advance.

    with much gayness,

    Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day, S.J.

  49. "Open" standards? by andfarm · · Score: 1

    Hold on, are we calling MPEG4 (and MPEG in general) an "open" standard?

    If so, then show me a site where a technical description of the format, complete enough to write a player or encoder from, is available. AFAIK, a copy of the standard will run you $5000 or more. Open, this isn't.

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    1. Re:"Open" standards? by a_n_d_e_r_s · · Score: 2

      It's open since you can buy the standard - however its not free. It's very expensive.

      A closed de-facto standard means that you can't even get the specification of it - like the MS Word .doc format.

      BTW you just found the main difference between open and free software/standard etc.

      Since anyone can write a codec they are not part of the standard and are not open. So one can write a player but however you also must pay for the codecs since they also aren't free.

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  50. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why ruin a perfectly good catbox, that's what I wanna know.

  51. Wot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple isn't the bastion of freedom that the whining Macheads make it out to be?

    Surprise, surprise.

    Or not.

  52. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fferreres is a fucking stupid dork!!!

  53. Why is this news? by werdna · · Score: 3

    Apple filed its complaint months ago, suing Sorenson fore breaching an agreement to grant it an exclusive license. Sorenson, now obliged to file its answer after losing preliminary motions, files an Answer with Counterclaims, apparently alleging that the suit has caused them difficulty -- which sounds like an almost certain loser.

    What would have been news in a case of this kind would be if Sorenson filed an answer WITHOUT filing a counterclaim.

  54. Fist Steve Jobs in the ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Stick your fist in Steve Jobs's ass.

    Twist it. Twist it good.

    Bitch slap that Jobs. He is a bitch she woman.

    Break his little faggot glasses in half.

    Shove them up his rectum.

    Bitch slap that woman named Jobs.

    Make him bark like a dog. Bitch.

  55. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by frankie · · Score: 4, Insightful
    How is the MPEG4 Quicktime based

    Sheesh, someone here has been living in a cave for the past couple years, apparently with only a copy of Real Player 8 for company.
    • " The QuickTime file format has been used as the basis of the MPEG-4 standard, developed by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO)."
    • " [10.9] The MP4 file format is designed to contain the media information of an MPEG-4 presentation in a flexible, extensible format which facilitates interchange, management, editing, and presentation of the media. [...] The design is based on the QuickTime® format from Apple Computer Inc."
    But don't take my word for it -- look it up for yourself.

    They promote the LOCKED soreson as the encoding format

    And here again you are living in the past. Take a look at the Apple Quicktime site right now. You will see a whole lot of promotion of their MPEG-4 cross-compatible codec. Ever since the MPEG-4 project began, Apple has been salivating at the prospects of ditching Sorenson.

    Apple used to push in favor of Sorenson, because: (1) it was the best codec, and (2) it was exclusive to QuickTime. Neither of those factors are true any more.
  56. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by marmoset · · Score: 1
    Haven't you noticed how hard Apple's been pushing MPEG 4 since they released Quicktime 6? They even streamed the Macworld keynote im MPEG 4 the other day.

    What in the world is "unopen" about Quicktime, since the metafile format is fully published and the codecs they're pushing most loudly are an ISO standard?

  57. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, dipshit, it's eager, not anxious. There is a difference.

  58. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by sean23007 · · Score: 2

    Actually, at the Macworld conference this week, Steve Jobs stressed in his keynote that Apple was embracing open standards. Quicktime 6, which he officially announced this week, uses MPEG-4. He repeatedly proclaimed that it is completely open.

    Apparently Steve likes cheese sticks too.

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  59. Look at Apple's history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You need to get your head out of the sand. Apple is not this goody-goody utopian computer haven that you imagine.

    Apple is a company that is so litigious and territorial that they have marginalized themselves into a niche product. Back in the 80s everyone was using Apple products. But IBM opened up their standards and allowed 3rd parties to use the technology. Apple became more and more proprietary, and shut down anyone making clones or 3rd party hardware; only Apple was allowed to sell products for Apple computers.

    And it is still that way today, for two reasons. One, Apple has soiled their reputation so badly that nobody wants the trouble of making things for Apple.

    Two, they now have such an insignificant market share that unless you can make a PC/Mac version with little trouble, it just isnt worth the effort. Look at their puny game selection as a good example.

    So let me close with a joke-

    Mac Server

    hahahahah ahahahahaha haahaha ahahahaha!!!!!
    hahahah ahahahahahahah!!!!! hahaha hahahah!!!!

    oh, that still cracks me up.

  60. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for fuck's sake, are all you /.ers under a fucking rock or something?

    >How is the MPEG4 Quicktime based ...

    mpeg-4's container (*.mp4) is based on the qt container (*.mov). this has been common knowledge (... outside of the /. moron crowd, obviously) for months (years?) now.

  61. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by fferreres · · Score: 2

    * " The QuickTime file format has been used as the basis of the MPEG-4 standard

    Only File Format ideas where taken from QT, as far as the document you link to tells (and the File Format section is about 1% of the total file). Is that so crucial as to say it's "Quicktime Based"? Well nope.

    Apple used to push in favor of Sorenson, because: (1) it was the best codec, and (2) it was exclusive to QuickTime.

    Apparently, they still want it to be exclusive. If not, they wouldn't be suing soreson, right? Also, I must point out that QT was not the best codec (for my taste at least). So 1) is arguable and 2) is false.

    Now, I like Apple a lot. But Quicktime is not one of the things in "thanks" list (which is quite long). I like to give credit where it is, and .mov files a real problem and have always been for me.

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  62. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by nullard · · Score: 1

    Apparently, they still want it to be exclusive. If not, they wouldn't be suing soreson, right? Also, I must point out that QT was not the best codec (for my taste at least). So 1) is arguable and 2) is false.

    That would seem true if Apple hadn't chosen to use the MPEG4 codec as the new default. Why? Because it's better than Sorenson. That's right, they didn't choose the codec to be evil, they chose it because it was the best.

    Now, I like Apple a lot. But Quicktime is not one of the things in "thanks" list (which is quite long). I like to give credit where it is, and .mov files a real problem and have always been for me.

    I wonder where multimedia would be today if it weren't for Quicktime. If you look into the history of Quicktime, you'll find that it is one of the key technologies that lead to the development of modern computer multimedia.

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  63. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by fferreres · · Score: 2

    ... Quicktime, you'll find that it is one of the key technologies that lead to the development of modern computer multimedia.

    I couldn't comment on that. What really changed everything (in my case) was mpeg layer3 audio and mpeg2 video.

    If they owe anything to quicktime, bless them. That doesn't change the fact that QT was/is a problem, as the .avi files. All my kudos go to whoever did, promoted and developed and pushed mpeg standards (and jpgs).

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  64. QuickTime is an open format and always has been. by l-ascorbic · · Score: 2
    Apple continues to develop and promote decidedly unopen formats like Quicktime, which are definately not friendly to alternative platforms.

    When will people learn the difference between a file format and a codec? The QuickTime API and file format are open and well documented. You want to write a player for QuickTime files? Go ahead: Apple won't stop you. Want to reverse-engineer and implement the API? Good luck. But QuickTime is a container format: you can plug whatever codecs you want into it. The Sorenson 3 codec, which, due to it being pretty fucking good, is the most popular for QuickTime video, is only available for Mac and Windows. Hence the problem.

    This all becomes irrelevant with QuickTime 6 though, as it's expected content providers will move to using the superior and open AVC codec. Interoperability at last.

  65. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by rutherford · · Score: 1

    I think your arguments are not correct if I got it right from other pages: Quicktime is just the container for video, audio and other media formats. You can put anything in this like a mpeg movie, a Sorenson movie, a Ogg Vorbis audio file or plain text. Avi is another container which much less features (index gets corrupted when file is not complete...). So the Sorenson codec has nothing to do with the quicktime container. Ogg is producing another container to have an alternative to Quicktime.
    Please correct me if I'm wrong.

  66. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by fferreres · · Score: 2

    You are correct! And what I mean is that the crucial difference are the codecs not the containers.

    If the container is not open it causes problems for everyone that doesn't have access to the propietary format. It really becomes a problem (.avi, .asf, maybe .mov).

    Regarding Apple, I'd be glad is mpeg4 is the default encoding option and the .mov file format is open. If not, then it will only cause non mac users headaches.

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    unfinished: (adj.)
  67. Re:Propriety formats are Apple's enemy. Or should by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Apparently Steve likes cheese sticks too."

    He's a vegan, you fucktard.

  68. Re: Er, Steve did what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm afraid at the time of OS 8, Gil Amelio was the CEO and Steve wasn't even an Apple Employee, good try though, to spread some lies.

  69. Why don't you just use a REAL codec... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...instead of screwing around trying to figure out who owns what? People have known who owns Windows Media's codec all along!