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Dreamworks Delves Into Anime

peter_gzowski writes "Dreamworks has acquired the license for the worldwide distribution of Satoshi Kon's latest picture, Millennium Actress. Satoshi Kon is best known for directing the anime classic Perfect Blue, but has also worked on Patlabor 2 and Roujin Z (the latter two from the director of Ghost in the Shell & Akira, respectively). Read about it from Yahoo! Movies or Anime News Network, whichever you prefer. I guess Dreamworks was feeling left out after Miramax (with Princess Mononoke) and Columbia Tri-Star (with Final Fantasy and Metropolis) got into the anime distribution business. Maybe Spielberg and company will fare better trying to convince North American audiences to watch serious animated films."

162 comments

  1. Do you it will work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An American company doing asian based cartoons?

    1. Re:Do you it will work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No I it indeed.

    2. Re:Do you it will work? by H3XA · · Score: 0, Troll

      thats ok....... as long as its NOT Pokemon.
      - HeXa

  2. hopefully... by 601 · · Score: 1

    let's just hope this'll have a positive effect on the way our blockbuster-loving country views anime. that is, unless, we see guinness, lexus, etc. advertisements written in...

  3. Macross Plus... by JoeLinux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've always thought that Macross Plus would make a kick-ass live action movie, or even re-released for American audiences in the movies, would make for something that they could follow.

    JoeLinux

    Strip Mining prevents forest fires.

    1. Re:Macross Plus... by H3XA · · Score: 1

      I was raised on Robotech when I was a kid.... got me interested in anime - then Ghost in the Shell got be addicted.

      "You know you are addicted when you delete your pr0n collection to make room for Anime"

      - HeXa

    2. Re:Macross Plus... by Malicious · · Score: 1

      Speilberg: So can i direct Starwars 3? Lucas: No. Speilberg: Please? Lucas: Still no. Speilberg: Fine, i'm going to japan, to show you how Scifi's supposed to be done. The World:

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    3. Re:Macross Plus... by krmt · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I've always thought that Macross Plus would make a kick-ass live action movie, or even re-released for American audiences in the movies, would make for something that they could follow.
      They already did. It's called Top Gun.

      Seriously, it's obvious when you watch it, and they even advertise it on the front of the DVD as the anime version of Top Gun.
      --

      "I may not have morals, but I have standards."

    4. Re:Macross Plus... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that Top Gun sucks in comparison to Macross Plus...

    5. Re:Macross Plus... by boy_afraid · · Score: 0

      Yeah! Top Gun is good for a jet fighting movie, but a real live action movie with transforming mecha and battle pods is cool!!! With today's special effects it could easily be done.

      Just imagine a live action scene where Rick Hunter is in his VF1 trying to catch Minmei as she free falls. Rick has to manuver the arm while he is in Guardian mode to catch her and keep a hold on her. Then we all know that he can't and ends up, if memory serves me right, opening the cockpit and getting her in. All this while free falling.

      That would make a kick-ass scene!!!!

      Let's petions this !!!

  4. Princess Mononoke by soapvox · · Score: 1

    Probably one of the best anime films I have seen sice Akira and Vampire Hunter D (Which is an amazing DVD). It would be great to see an American film company do this but I think on Miramax or Sony Classics could pull it off, I mean c'mon spieldberg and co think good film is better than crappy but big money maker, I don't think so, I think I smell another Pokemon movie.

    1. Re:Princess Mononoke by SWTP · · Score: 1

      I agree on Mononke! Oustanding film!

      The only problem with Mononoke was Mirmax did a horrible job of marking and distribution. Only Iron Giant was done worse.

      I am worried about how these clowns will do with Spirited Away since its slated for September 20 move and if correct, Oct 8 for video release!

      I wont get into the "Red Tint" problem from BV Japan pressing on the R2 DVD release of SA.

    2. Re:Princess Mononoke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You loved mononoke ?
      Check out chihiro ,myasaki's last movie, it is as awesome as the previous one.

  5. Anime. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is a dangerous development. We all know that anime is like D&D, it leads to otherwise normal nerds, becoming arrogant and confident to the point where they feel big enough to act out their fantasies. These of course center around choke sex and tenticle rape that the moderators think about constantly.

    1. Re:Anime. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ominous voiceover: Dungeons and Dragons. Satan's game. Your children, like it or not, are attracted in their weaker years to the occult, and a game like D&D fuels their imagination, and makes them feel 'special' while drawing them deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo. This afternoon, the Dead Alewives Watchtower invites you to sit in on an actual gaming 'session'. Observe the previously unobservable as a hidden camera takes you to the inner sanctum of... Dungeons and Dragons!

    2. Re:Anime. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Actually, my fantasies revolve around using a Sakaba sword and really flashy techniques to LART luser Kenshin-style. Tentacle rape was never my thing; I always wished for a tongue like Gene Simmons of KISS had. >^..^

    3. Re:Anime. by dswensen · · Score: 1

      Can I have a Mountain Dew?

  6. The first and last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Akira.. never seen anything like it done better.

  7. Excited.. by billatq · · Score: 1

    I'm quite excited about this movie, because I really liked Perfect Blue. I suppose this is a strange coincidence, but I checked it out and watched it for the first time on Monday. I just hope that they don't price it unreasonably.

  8. MAXTOR?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Throughout history, Taco shall be known for this momentary lapse of due diligence.

    1. Re:MAXTOR?!? by H3XA · · Score: 1

      I bet he is "Mister Popular" at that conference he is attending wth all then attention he has got over that "slight" stuff up.

      - HeXa

    2. Re:MAXTOR?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just be glad it got corrected. It's a miracle that one of the slashdot editors actually *read* slashdot to notice the mistake.

  9. Can't see how... by Chemical · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can't see how this will be a good thing. The only good Dreamworks might do get some "well known" people to do voice acting (not that I care as I am a sub-snob) and perhaps get a somewhat large exposure at big cinemas. Other than that, this is more or less a bad thing. The American Anime-only distribution companies like ADV and the like by the fans, for the fans. They care about their fans and do their best to make their fans happy. Dreamworks and other Hollywood stuidos couldn't give a flying fuck about the fans and just want to make some cash. They will rape the movie any way they can if they think it will earn them a couple more bucks. Disney/Miramax wanted to rape Princess Mononoke by censoring it, and they would have if they weren't restricted by the contract. Tri-Star did an all right job with Metropolis but the translation was sub-ADV. I can't imagine what Dreamworks, another animation studio known more for "kiddie" movies, plans to do with this, but I don't think Dreamworks buying the distribution rights is going to be beneficial to anime fans.

    1. Re:Can't see how... by Golias · · Score: 3, Interesting
      You speak like an anime snob, yet fess up to watching Metropolis with the dub track. The cognative dissonance is a little much to overcome.

      Metropolis was the shit, by the way. A little slow to get started, but worth it in the end. Everybody go rent it, and be sure to watch it in Japanese.

      Back to your point: I could not disagree more. Big distributors selling anime is good news. For all your ADV snobbery, I am compelled to point out that some of these small distributors are doing a half-assed job at best. A friend of mine has had to return his Slayers DVD boxed set three times now because the audio track was all fucked up.

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    2. Re:Can't see how... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      If there is one thing good about a big company like Dreamworks licensing Millenium Actress, it's the fact that it will actually get some international exposure without having to go to a local distributer or somesuch. I live in Australia, and it's particularly hard to come by anime in the stores (due to our just about single distributer) let alone the cinemas. Take for example Metropolis, the only reason why I can see it next week (albeit way later than people in the US but something is better than nothing) is because Tri-Star licensed it. Princess Mononoke was also shown here a while back, but as that got an R rating I couldn't see it at the time. I think that it's good that some of the big companies are paying attention, if only to get a little more screen time here in Australia and other countries other than America.

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    3. Re:Can't see how... by AtomicToad · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't want to start a flame here (although it's kinda hard to avoid when a bunch of people start talking about anime!), but it just appears that you misread a few things in the post you are replying to.

      He never said that he watched the dubbed version of Metropolis. He said the translation wasn't very good. This is correct. The SUBBED translation was simply horrible. Besides the fact that it could have been much smoother, they even changed the people's NAMES for no reason! "Litegong"?! You can't even pronounce that in Japanese! Even if you don't speak Japanese, you'd still notice something wrong with the translation if you paid attention, and that alone would make it a bad translation.

      But yeah, big distributors distribuing anime is good as long as the original compaines don't get screwed over in their contracts (see Princess Mononoke censorship example of what was narrowly avoided somewhere else in this thread). I really don't care how much they screw up the anime -- it introduces it to a new audience and if they care enough they can track down the better subbed versions and hear better voice acting themselves. I got into Dragon Ball Z by watching it on the Cartoon Network, now I can't stomach that stuff for even a second, but I'm happy -- now I'm a hardcore fan -- of the original Japanese version.

    4. Re:Can't see how... by krmt · · Score: 1

      FYI, the English translation was done by Neil Gaiman of Sandman fame. When I heard he was doing it, I was surprised, since it seemed like it was very much out of his expertise.

      FWIW, I didn't think the translation was so bad. Granted, I saw the dubbed version (it was the only way I could see it on the big screen) but I didn't think it was so poorly done. Nothing glared out at me, but then, I'm no expert.

      --

      "I may not have morals, but I have standards."

    5. Re:Can't see how... by Golias · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I really don't care how much they screw up the anime -- it introduces it to a new audience and if they care enough they can track down the better subbed versions and hear better voice acting themselves. I got into Dragon Ball Z by watching it on the Cartoon Network, now I can't stomach that stuff for even a second, but I'm happy -- now I'm a hardcore fan -- of the original Japanese version.

      Exactly. Even butchered anime can good for the genre in general if it builds the market. Look at how many Americans became anime fans in the first place by watching Robotech, which was a lazy re-edit of Macross. They know better now, but they may have never started watching had they not seen the chopped-up stuff first.

      Personally, I was a "Battle of the Planets" kid. I guess that makes me an "old-skool" anime nerd.

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      Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

    6. Re:Can't see how... by JimPooley · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, Gaiman didn't do the translation from the Japanese - someone else did that (in the subtitles) and Gaiman just re-wrote from the translation to capture the spirit of the Japanese text.
      i.e. - In the subtitles there's 'the deer god'
      In Gaiman's reinterpretation of the translation used for the English voice track, it's 'The great forest spirit' - which is more the meaning of what is said rather than a literal translation.

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      "Information wants to be paid"
    7. Re:Can't see how... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Just some advice here, an effective writer just doesn't toss the word rape around. Its like seeing the word 'fuck' in every sentence. Whatever point you were trying to make was drowned out by the little voice in my head telling me that you are an incredibly petulant little fanboy of no consequence.

    8. Re:Can't see how... by krmt · · Score: 1

      Nifty. Thanks for the clarification. My faith in Neil is restored! :-)

      --

      "I may not have morals, but I have standards."

    9. Re:Can't see how... by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

      Having seen the DVD (thanks to my brother's copy of the movie I bought him for Christmas present =) ), I think Gaiman's iuterpretation actually works quite well. It does much to understand the cultural context in what is probably the best anime feature film of the 1990's.

    10. Re:Can't see how... by A+Cheese+Danish · · Score: 1

      I think it doesn't really matter that big companies are licencing anime these days. The fact is, anime is getting licenced before it is finished in production. The trend is going to where there is a bigger market for anime here than there is in Japan (due to the enormous cellphone bills the Japanese are ringing up).

      The only thing I've noticed that happens when big studios get involved in anime distribution/dubbing/etc is that they end up tailoring it to the lowest common denominator to sell more copies, but, in the end, does a great disservice to the original, and I think tends to alienate people. When some people watch a bad dub, they tend to wonder what the heck the fuss is all about. Don't get me wrong, some dubs are really good, and I'm not above watching them if they are that good, but I think that all the big excitement over more anime exposure is overrated.

      Once we accept that anime is a niche market, and stop trying to convert every single person into an otaku, I think things will be better off for both anime and its perception by people outside the know.

      The above information was derived from a panel on the State of the Industry at Anime Mid-Atlantic. I would provide quotes to back this up, but I haven't found one not blocked by our nice filter at work.

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    11. Re:Can't see how... by lazuli42 · · Score: 1

      I am opening a comics shop focussing on anime and manga here in Indianapolis, so I'd like to throw in my response to your message.

      I am thrilled to hear this news. Dreamworks has produced only excellent movies and T.V. series since they were formed, and I completely trust their ability to promote this movie. I *want* anime to be exposed. I *want* it to become popular.

      Anime tells stories in ways that American producers can't figure out how to mimic. Why shouldn't fans of anime want more people to learn and appreciate this excelling art form?

      Corinna

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  21. Millennium Actress by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  23. Troll OUT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Troll out
    Troll out
    I got my blah blah blah blah JonKatz
    Me and my trollers we got that
    we trollin' on 20's with the blah blah
    so much trollin' you can't stop that

    where'd you get that goatse ass with the turds up in it?
    where'd you get that 200gb drive with the porn within it?
    who them girls you be with
    oh wait they're not girls, sucks to be you
    I got anime on my mind cause there's nothin else to do.

    blah blah blah blah... someone else finish this stupid rap.

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  25. I don't care - honestly by Akor · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Anime, but why should I care about some companies making money with it or not? Sure it would be a cool, if I could see my favourite Anime on the big screen, but I'm perfectly fine with fansubs! I think groups like Soldats are doing a great job atm.

  26. Might not be easy after all by forgoil · · Score: 3, Informative

    I do like anime myself, and I own a few DVDs (and japanese LDs). I did buy Mononoke Hime (twice;) LD/DVD) and I think it is interesting that American movie companies are getting their eyes up for anime.

    But it will not be easy, most of the target audience will not show up for an anime in theaters in the states. I just couldn't stand the horrible dub work for Mononoke myself, and the US audiences is not known for "reading" movies like some of us Europeans. The fact that it is !Disney and that it is animated will turn off a lot of people, making them go "I can watch cartoons on Cartoon Network, ok? I want to see ".

    One of the biggest reasons is that anime is not family movies in the states (like most of the Studio Ghibli movies are in Japan for example) and thus won't draw the important child+partent audience. And it is not "serious" enough for an older audience. Not because anime can't be good childrens movies or can not deal with very serious themes. Just because this is the view of it in the states.

    One very successful anime on the other hand is ghost in the shell, which is loaded with action and fits in well with the fairly young target audience. This is also an anime with a very good dub (I could watch the whole movie without wincing when actors sounded completely out of character the whole time). When (if?) they get around to do it, GITS2 could be a hit in the west as well.

    If anime wants to succeed it needs a few "flagships". Movies people remember and like, a TV series or two that they remember was good. My suggestion for this is to _not_ buy a movie/tvseries after it has premiered in Japan and is old.

    Dreamworks (etc) need to be a full partner and produce it together with the Japanese production team. Grab the American voice actors (for those seiyuu that can't speak English well enough) and send them to work side by side with the Japanese ones. Make the sequences that would be too culturally hard to understand into two sequences, one for US, one for JP (and use multi angles for something else than pr0n;)).

    For example, the new GITS TV series. Do what I suggest above and send it on prime time television and promote it. This would open up for anime and give subsequent TV series a better chance.

    (I would also like to see Dreamworks buy the rights for Studio Ghiblis movies, send them to THX for remastering, make real quality dubs, and put them out in out big blacing box. I would buy that for $250 on the day of the launch without a second thought (Except JIPPIE!). But I think that will remain a personal dream of mine since it is very unlikely that Disney will do anything good at all with them right now, since they own the rights in the west. I think that Miyazaki is unhappy about the situation, which is a shame because he is a very nice person and him and his team has made some of the most incredible movies of all times).

    1. Re:Might not be easy after all by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

      I for one would love to see every Studio Ghibli movie done since 1983 released in the USA in a combined sub/dub edition that was done with the quality of the Princess Mononoke DVD.

      Disney should seriously do a DVD of Kiki's Delivery Service that is done this way; this movie is far more indicative of the type of movie Studio Ghibli does. :-)

      By the way, I disagree with your assessments of the Princess Mononoke dub; the dub was written by well-known comic book writer and science fiction author Neil Gaiman, and he does an excellent job in the dub explaining the cultural context behind the movie.

    2. Re:Might not be easy after all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Japanese DVDs of Kiki, Totoro, Porco Rosso, and Spiritied Away are the only R2 DVDs I own... pricey but Miyazaki is worth it.

    3. Re:Might not be easy after all by bolthole · · Score: 2
      ... and the US audiences is not known for "reading" movies like some of us Europeans

      I think you can shorten that to, 'the US audiences [are] not known for reading'

      :-)

  27. Is Anime really that good? by spoco2 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I was going to say something about the comment "Maybe Spielberg and company will fare better trying to convince North American audiences to watch serious animated films.", I wanted to say "Dammit, there are so serious animated features that aren't Anime!"

    But then I tried to find some.

    And looking at this list, I came to the realisation that... bugger... there really aren't any, at least no big films that are serious and aren't Anime... well I'll be buggered!

    I like Anime... at least some of it, but sometimes I think the quality of animation in the films is over praised... I feel that the fluidity and realism in many 'western' animated features far outdoes that seen in most Anime, which always seem to skimp on frames, or animates the bare minimum that's required to get the image across.

    I had a co-worker who LOVED princess Mononoke, but after watching it I was left quite underwhelmed.

    Ghost in the shell was pretty good... Ninja Scroll was fun, but I'm just yet to see something that really makes me think "Wow! So that's what they've been talking about!"

    Someone, please point me to the definative quality Anime so I can be proved wrong! :)

    1. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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      1. Introduction
      Welcome to the Phone sex FAQ. This document will hopefully answer a lot of questions you may have about the many ways to get your rocks off with a telephone call. Although erotic phone chat has been around for as long as people have communicated by telephone ("One ringy-dingy...two ringy-dingy...Gracious, hello! Mr. Vidal...what am I wearing now? <snort> I've got a short pink teddy, and my nipples are hard thinking about you. <snort>". At some point a light bulb went on in some enterprising entrepreneur's mind and s/he decided there was a way to make money talking dirty. Before the days of the infotext (pay-per-call. industry phone sex operators would receive payment in advance of a call or have a credit card number on file for a regular caller.

      976 numbers changed the face of the phone sex industry. With this special exchange the owner of the phone sex business could establish a per-minute rate and let the phone company handle the billing and collection. The industry earned a black eye early in the game when preadolescent boys racked up thousands of dollars in charges calling phone sex operators.

      When abuses appear, regulation soon follows. Many phone companies, fearing adverse publicity, either discontinued 976 programs or simply refused to collect for those calls. "976" soon became synonymous with "phone smut," and those numbers all but died out.

      A desire for a positive public image soon lost out to desire for the revenues possible from pay-per-call business. The 900 exchange was born. The owner of the phone information business (the "Information Provider," or "IP" for short. would lease a line or group of lines from AT&T or MCI. Enterprising IPs discovered that people would pay anywhere from $1.00 per minute up to $50.00 per minute if they could get the information they sought. Software companies whose tech support departments were swamped discovered that their users were more than willing to pay $3.00 per minute to get technical questions answered without long waits on hold. Late night callers could call their own personal psychics at the urging of various movie or recording stars. Baseball players were setting up their own 900 numbers to get calls from adoring fans.

      Phone sex entrepreneurs jumped back into the fray as well. Soon there were full-color beaver shots showing up in Hustler and Penthouse urging the reader to "Call me--my pussy's hot for you now..." Callers were willing to pay in some cases hundreds of dollars for a call to one of these gorgeous, horny phone sex operators.

      As more and more IPs jumped visibly into the telephone sex business, the telephone companies were faced with the same old image problem. They knew they would not be able to shut down those operations, but the would be able to make life a lot more difficult. They did this by leasing these lines with a number of conditions. The most important of these was that they would not bill or collect for 900 sex lines. The IPs were now forced to turn to alternative, third-party billing for these calls. From a practical standpoint this meant that an IP could not be sure of collecting for any call made, since the telephone company would not disconnect the caller's service for an unpaid 900 bill. The rate of chargebacks increased dramatically.

      In the face of these difficulties there are a number of alternatives in phone sex. This document will explore some of them.

      2. What is phone sex?

      This may seem to be a stupid question (but, then a FAQ is about stupid questions, isn't it?.. Let's define phone sex as a telephone conversation between two or more people whose object is to arouse, titillate and stimulate the caller or callers, hopefully to the point of orgasm. Some have described phone sex as guided masturbation fantasy. If that definition works for you, be my guest. A phone sex conversation may start out on a simple conversational level, but by mutual consent and expectation it will move into an erotic area. You might describe phone sex as an interactive erotic audio fantasy. The conversation is generally (but not always. explicit and hardcore. It is not generally a prelude to a face-to-face meeting.

      3. Isn't phone sex for dweebs, perverts and losers?

      While there are certainly dweebs, perverts and losers who are frequent callers, phone sex has provided a healthy (and safe. sexual outlet for many people. People who do not now have a regular sex partner may find the interaction with another person to be a welcome change from solitary masturbation. The presence of a person at the other end of the line provides another dimension to the fantasy which can significantly enhance the experience.

      4. How much is it going to cost me--really?

      The cost of a call will generally be determined by the length of the call. That depends at least partly on the caller. Let's assume for the time being that you are a heterosexual male calling a female at a phone sex number. If she is doing her job properly she'll engage you in some sort of conversation so she knows at least something about you. If you don't give her a lot to go on, the call might take longer. The "average" call (if there is one. will last anywhere from 5 minutes to 14 minutes. The best way to avoid an unexpectedly huge bill is to set some sort of timer before you make the call. Time has a way of getting out of hand when you're not paying attention! If you're calling a service whose rate is $3.99 per minute, you can reasonably expect to spend between $30.00 and $40.00 for the call.

      5. How can I avoid getting ripped off?

      First, be clear about your expectations for the call. You generally need to make the first move as far as explicit talk is concerned; the girl will not normally take the initiative. Once you say, for example, "I'd like to lick your pussy," or "I'm sitting here with my hard dick in my hand," you've hopefully opened the door, so to speak. The girl on the other end of the line at that point should get quite graphic. If she doesn't, you're probably calling a number whose primary intent is to hold you on the line for as long as possible without delivering what you called for in the first place. You are a consumer, and you have every right to demand the service you're paying for.

      Second, do NOT give your credit card number to a telephone sex operator. Sure, your credit card company will protect you, but do you really want to leave yourself open for those kinds of hassles?

      Finally, be VERY aware of the time; the meter ticks, and the dollars can mount up quickly if you're not paying attention. Even though it may seem a bit tacky, set a timer before you make the call so you don't lose track. Once you've hit your budget figure, it's perfectly okay to just hang up. You don't have to stand on a lot of ceremony here. Personally, I like to say something nice to the lady on the other line--particularly if it was a really good call.

      6. How can I get it for cheap--or free?

      This is just like asking, "I know I can get laid if I pay a callgirl a couple of hundred bucks! How can I get laid for free?" The answer to the phone sex question is about the same. There are many people on the Internet and other on-line communities who have been able to develop very rewarding phone sex relationships with other users (your humble author is one such fortunate person.. How to go about it? In just the same way you'd go about developing a relationship with another human being in 3D. Assuming you're willing and able to do that, then the calls you'd make with that other person would proceed pretty much the way a pay-per-call encounter would happen. It's a matter of having your expectations clear on both ends of the telephone line.

      How to get it cheap? You have several choices here. First, do not make the mistake of assuming that just because the ad you see for the number is very explicit that you'll get great phone. Many of the numbers with very low rates are a come-on for more expensive lines. There are several different types of phone sex lines to choose from, and each has limitations and strong points.

      809 numbers: These are phone numbers located in the Dominican Republic. They do not charge a per-minute fee, so you'll just pay the regular phone charges. The charge could be as low as about $0.33 per minute. These lines tend to be oriented toward dating databases and multi party chat lines. You could spend an hour on the line and not drop much more than $20 or $30, depending on your long distance carrier. Some callers have been able to connect with real people for later phone sex calls away from the party line. Many of these lines also have recorded fantasies and live one-on-one chat with women. Some of those women will talk explicitly with you; most won't. It doesn't cost too much to test the waters here, though.

      7. What are the different kinds of phone sex service numbers?

      900 numbers: These are the ones you see advertised in all the sex mags. Some of them are good, some of them not so good. You're pretty much taking a chance. Refer to section (5. above. 900 numbers today are relying on third-party billing or hoping to make a lot of money before they get shut down, or ripping off the caller. Just be careful and keep your wits about you.

      011 numbers: These are the real offshore numbers. Some of the ads will tell you that you can talk to "Horny Swedish Bi Nympho Sluts," but in reality most of these numbers go to an island off the coast of Africa. The "Swedish" angle is to deal with the fact that many of these women have strong accents. (All you folks for whom English is not your native language: please don't take offense at the "accent" remark !. The point is that in some cases you may have to deal with a person on the other end who does not have a good command of the language; as a matter of fact, some of them are almost unintelligible! On the plus side, you're only paying long distance charges, but you should always be aware of the ticking of the clock, and also what the per minute long distance charges are.

      800 Numbers: These will bill your credit card. Refer to section (5. above: how to avoid getting ripped off.

      10XXX Numbers: These are a brand new entry onto the phone sex scene. the first six digits you dial will route your call through a central switch, while the rest will put you through to the service. You will be charged a per-minute fee of between $1.99 and $4.99 per minute, depending on what number you're calling. There is always some sort of recorded introduction (for any pay-per-call number. telling you to hang up if you're under 18, and disclosing what the cost per minute is. Pay attention to this!

      The 10XXX numbers have gotten popular quickly for a couple of reasons; Most of the 10XXX numbers connect to locations in Canada, so you are not dealing with any sort of language problems as you might with some of the offshore numbers. Finally, the providers who have started the 10XXX programs are generally very experienced in providing phone sex services; these numbers tend to have a high percentage of repeat callers, just as a popular callgirl would have a "book" of regular customers.

      One number that's representative of a 10XXX service is

      10509-1-514-851-1599

      You can generally count on the 10XXX numbers to deliver explicit (hardcore. phone sex.

      8. How can I get the most out of a phone sex call?

      First, it helps if you're in the right state of mind. If you're in a foul mood because you've just had a fight with your Significant Other (or whomever. you probably would be better off not making the call until you're in a better frame of mind. It does help if you're in a quiet place where you can relax (putting on music helps. and where you know you won't be disturbed while you're on the phone.

      Just as with regular 3D sex, it helps to be prepared and relaxed beforehand. A glass or two of wine (or whatever. might help you to lower your inhibitions and get into the fantasy more readily. And (though it may seem a bit tacky for me to mention it. it's a good idea to have a box of tissues close at hand.

      Be prepared to take an active part in the conversation. That doesn't mean you have to create the whole scenario, but you'll find it works a lot better when you're giving the girl some input from your end. I know a few phone sex girls in 3D (and many of them are in fact pretty!. and they will often get off themselves if their caller is really turned on.

      When you are about to have an orgasm, let her know somehow. Your "signal" could be heavy breathing from you, or just tell her what's happening with you. She'll take it from there.

      9. What are some good numbers to call?

      If you just want to test the waters without spending a lot of money, try the 809 number, but don't expect a weak-kneed, dripping orgasm type of call (unless you really get lucky!. You'll just pay regular long distance rates.

      If you're looking for the "real thing," your best bet is a 10XXX number. You can safely assume you'll have a hot, explicit call with no holds barred.

      For this you might try 10509-1-514-851-1599

      This number carries a charge of $3.99 per minute, and you can realistically expect to be on the phone for anywhere between 6 and 12 minutes. It's up to you to determine whether it's worth it *for you.* If I were going to justify it for myself, I'd have to say that paying 40 bucks for a nice orgasm that is totally safe is not a bad deal, particularly if there's a nice, sympathetic person on the other end. I am not you, though, so you might see it a different way.

      For another look at phone sex, read my article "Phone sex--The Straight Scoop!" on several Usenet newsgroups (and Compuserve. near you. This article contains a word-for-word description of a "typical" phone sex call.

      10. Is it worth calling a phonesex number to learn how to "do it" right?

      If you buy into the notion that we all have something to learn about interacting with people at any level, the answer could be a resounding "Maybe." If you are lucky enough to connect with another person on an intimate level through the Net or any online service, you might find that having some familiarity with telephone sex could enhance the experience forboth of you.

      If you read "Phonesex--The Straight Scoop," you'll see how a "typical" call happens. Making love with another person on the telephone,when it is done "right," is much more than sexual talk.

      11. Who is Joe Parsons, anyway??

      Joe Parsons is a writer living in the San Francisco Bay area. As of this writing, he is producing erotic audio dramas for release near the end of the year (1994.. Since as a writer he is just one step away from being unemployed, he spends a lot of time sailing "Good Faith" out of Berkeley, California.

      He can be reached at joepar@ix.netcom.com on CI$: 72133,1105

      12. Even though this might not be the Great American FAQ, it did require a fair amount of work and lots of, um...research. The author is indebted to:

      Elley for the fan mail
      Marticha for the same nice words
      My dear pal Marsha--she knows why.
      Everyone who reads this stuff and gets something out of it.
      Finally, thanks to all the sweet-voiced ladies of phone sex

      -- M.Z.

    2. Re:Is Anime really that good? by krmt · · Score: 4, Informative
      there really aren't any, at least no big films that are serious and aren't Anime... well I'll be buggered!
      You ignored a few that are on the list there. There's Wizards, which was bizarre and psychadelic (a lot of R. Crumb-like influence in it) and animated, but not anime. It wasn't totally serious, but it had a serious message, and had a lot of mature content in addition.

      Speaking of Crumb, there's the Fritz the Cat movies (I didn't know there was more than one) on there too. I haven't seen them, but I know Crumb's work, and there's always that counterculture air. Again, not serious like Ghost in the Shell or Akira, but with some serious things going on. Also animated, but not anime.

      There's also the Hobbit cartoon and the unfinished Lord of the Rings animated movie. Similar category.

      Someone, please point me to the definative quality Anime so I can be proved wrong!
      You forgot Akira, which is my personal gold standard for best anime feature film. Others will probably point to Mononoke or Ghost in the Shell, but Akira remains my personal favorite.

      The thing about anime though, is that the highest quality work is not in feature films, but in the series made for TV. Neon Genesis Evangelion, Trigun, and Cowboy Bebop all have US versions available, and all are outstanding. I've heard excellent things about Serial Experiments: Lain as well. The feature films based off of Cowboy Bebop and Evangelion are also must-sees for fans of the series, but they aren't particularly good if you haven't watched the TV versions.

      The new series Vandread is excellent as well, in a quirky and funny sort of way. Not as mature as the others, but still good. Ranma 1/2 also has its fans, although I haven't seen it myself.

      Some people are pretty obsessed with Dragonball Z as well, although I personally couldn't get in to it, as it never seems to end. The other series clock in at one season apice, which means you can actually watch them to completion over a relatively short period of time. Not so with DBZ.

      Basically, most of the best anime will come out in the TV series. Take it upon yourself to start renting the Evangelion DVD's, or download the episodes online to try before you buy. Eva is incredibly deep and moving and very complex, and is generally considered to be the best "difficult" anime series around, so it may be best to start you there. I've neglected to list many above, mainly due to ignorance, but those should get you started. There's a lot out there. Good luck!
      --

      "I may not have morals, but I have standards."

    3. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Chemical · · Score: 0
      Have you tried Neon Genesis Evangelion yet? I know it's a little cliche, and a lot of people think it is pretentions, but it wont leave you "underwhelmed" and will probably make you think "Wow!". You didn't mention if you had seen Akira, which another classic that might be classified as "serious". Also I really like Vampire Hunter D (the sequel is really good too). .

      But really, why are you insisting that anime has to be serious and have a deep message? It's just entertainment. Sure it's a little different to see a "cartoon" have a deep message, but that isn't what it's all about. One of my favorite anime series is Ranma 1/2, which is about as silly as they come. I certainly don't watch it for the deep spirtual meaning. I watch it to have fun!

      But keep trying anyway. Anime is very entertaining and enjoyable. Just don't expect to have a spirtual revalation from watching it.

    4. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what a coincidence - i just got finished watching akira when i saw this.

      akira, like another poster said, kicks serious ass.

      -brady

    5. Re:Is Anime really that good? by elveu · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is no definative quality of anime. anime is a medium not a catagory. there are good anime's and there are crap ones.

    6. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although it's stretching "serious" -- how about shrek? That movie was really good...and not even just for kids!

    7. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shrek, quite possibly the worst movie ever made.

      -- M.Z.

    8. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Filik · · Score: 1

      Uhm, if Mononoke Hime made you feel underwhelmed, then just forget about this Anime thing and go back to watching college movies...

    9. Re:Is Anime really that good? by archveult · · Score: 5, Informative

      Neon

      Genesis

      Evangelion

      Do NOT watch the dubbed version. I'm not a sub purist, but in this case the dub really is terrible. Young and inexperienced characters have mature voices, gasps become goofy gufaws, and the screams of torment and anguish sound like someone yelling "Fore!" before swinging their damn golf club. And I listened in every language on that damn DVD. Every other language sounds as poor.

      Do NOT browse websites for information on it. Wait until you've watched it through.

      And if you decide to watch it, WATCH IT ALL. Do NOT quit halfway. I don't mean in one sitting necessarily, but if you only watch the first half of the episodes, you're going to think it's just like every other anime, or worse. Big robot mechs, teenage heros, cute girls, save the world, blah blah blah.

      Mech pilots taking dance lessons to perform a ballet sequence in combat to defeat the latest enemy? Tracked to silly music? Spare me, NGE. This is mind blowing? Pft.

      Or was that episode something different?

      Why are the mechs in NGE so tall, thin, and dexterous when compared to the mechs in other anime series? It's because toy manufacturers have an easier time building short, heavyset mech models. Early mech designs of Gundam Wing (the most popular mech anime in Japan at the time of NGE's release) were modified to make those stupid little toys stand up better. The NGE crew didn't care about the commercial possibilities of their work, and the ballet episode was just a vehicle for that point. NGE is something more.

      After you've watched it all, then you can go online for the analysis. Have fun looking things up in the Apocrypha and Pseudopygraphia (sp?). Note that the symbolism is both blatant (big crucifixes in places) and subtle (character motivations, personalities, and relationships).

      You'll either love it and be blown away, or you'll hate it. I've not met anyone between.

    10. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Daigouji+Gai · · Score: 2, Informative

      The problem is that anime is less a genre (like comedy or drama) and more a medium (like movies or novels).

      Just as there are comedy movies, political movies, and historical movies, there are comedy anime, political anime, and historical anime. Imagine if a person walked up to you and said "I don't understand this whole 'movie' thing. Can you give me the BEST movie EVER?"

      Imagine trying to pick ONE MOVIE that has gripping drama, laugh-out-loud comedy, strong political overtones, a harsh message from the upcoming generation, excellent camera work, cutting-edge computer graphics, and suitable material for all ages. Tough job, right?

      Whenever someone asks me to recommend anime, I ask them what movie genres they like the most. Then I go from there.

      (BTW, the plural of "anime" is "anime", just like "series". This is because the Japanese language doesn't use plurals like we do; "animes" does not exist over there or over here.)

    11. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, don't worry. I'm sure there is a lot of fare for people of your mental caliber. May I suggest Dude Where's my Car? Police Academy III? Perhaps something more mentally stimulating - I think Chuck Norris has a line of films which will test the whole vista of your intellectual and emotional spectrum.

    12. Re:Is Anime really that good? by MtViewGuy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Anime--because it is done on generally much-tighter budgets than American animation--has a look that can be an acquired taste to people used to the fluidity of motion of American animation. That's why it takes about US$800,000 and six months of work just to do one The Simpsons episode.

      But the Japanese compensate by flat-out great storytelling and well-developed characters.

      For anime available in subtitled form I recommend you see these titles to prove my point of view:

      1. Akira. Now available in a newly-remastered DVD, it's a movie that has breathtaking visuals and really makes you think, to say the least.

      2. Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise. Flat-out GREAT storytelling, and has an excellent musical score by former Yellow Magic Orchestra member Ryuichi Sakamoto.

      3. The three Slayers TV series. Really nice storylines, and it's just so cute and fun to listen to voice actress Megumi Hayashibara lose her temper in almost every episode. =) Slayers Try, the third season, is probably the best of the three.

      4. The Vision of Escaflowne TV series. Nice storytelling, and amazingly good animation.

      5. Neon Genesis Evangelion TV series. If you can watch the whole series straight through, you know why it was simultaneously loved AND reviled at the same time.

      6. Sailor Moon S TV series. Easily the best of the five seasons of that TV series, with great storytelling in almost every episode. :-) This is where the Pioneer uncut DVD comes in real handy. =)

      7. Excel Saga TV series. The first episodes are just out on DVD, and if you want something just as wacky and zany as what the late Chuck Jones did during his zenith at Warner Brothers in the 1950's, this is probably it.

      There are many more I could mention, but it's a good starting point.

    13. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Paolomania · · Score: 2, Insightful

      NGE is not the kind of anime you want to present as an example in a discussion about bringing anime to a mainstream audience. It is a rambling and aimless series with a venir of meaning constructed from poorly detailed pseudo-religion, pseudo-psychology and pseudo-science. Good Sci-Fi is Good Sci-Fi wether it is hand drawn, filmed, 3d rendered, or written down on paper - and NGE is not Good Sci-Fi.

      Note:
      I did NOT watch the dubbed version
      I did NOT know anything about the series before watching it
      I WATCHED IT ALL in its godawful entirety, including the "we ran out of budget" ending to the series, the movie they tried to use to appease the mass uprising of irate fans, and the movie they used to shield themselves from the stones thrown by even more irate fans.

      Here is a clue for you: just because there are obfuscated plot details, shallow metaphysical discourse, and characters in emotional anguish does NOT mean that a work of fiction is in any way DEEP or MEANINGFUL.

    14. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Monsieur_F · · Score: 1

      The most serious Anime I can think of is Hotaru no haka (Grave of the fireflies)

      Watch it if you can (well, and if you are not too depressed :) )

      --
      McCartney fans pay bus tickets. [...] Lennon fans too, with discretion.
    15. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But don't watch the last disk of EVA. The ending really sucks.

    16. Re:Is Anime really that good? by zhar · · Score: 1

      The closest thing to a serious american animated film I can think of would be Heavy Metal and Heavy Metal 2000. And those were stoner movies, more or less.

      --


      DRINK DUFF (responsibly) DRINK DUFF (responsibly) DRINK DUFF
    17. Re:Is Anime really that good? by dswensen · · Score: 2

      You'll either love it and be blown away, or you'll hate it. I've not met anyone between.

      Well, you have now. I watched the first few episodes of NGE and mocked it constantly. I thought it was kind of dopey and slow. By the middle of the series I was hooked; the plot twists and constant complications kept me interested. About two disks from the end I thought I was a die-hard NGE fan.

      Then the ending came, and my basic response was: "WHAT THE %$^&*$!?"

      Now, yeah, I know all about the problems the NGE crew had with ending it, and all about the two movies that are supposed to explain it all, and all about how a completely incomprehensible Iron John group-therapy session of an ending is more intellectual than your average Dragonball Z spoon-fed fare, yadah yadah yadah. I don't care. I despised the ending, and it made me feel like a sucker for watching the first seven disks of NGE.

      So, I didn't like the beginning so much. The middle was terrific. The ending was terrible. So the end result comes out as very lukewarm for me. I DO recommend it (I think that overall, it's good), but I also tell people to stop watching at the seventh disk and just make up their own ending, because it will be better than what they'll see on the screen. Blame whomever you like; the writers, studio heads, or merciless Fate, but NGE is a really good idea with some serious flaws.

      And please, don't come out swinging telling me that I "just don't get it." I get it. I just don't like it. And yes, I plan on catching the movies when I can, to see if they can wrap the story up any better.

      Why are the mechs in NGE so tall, thin, and dexterous when compared to the echs in other anime series? It's because toy manufacturers have an easier time building short, heavyset mech models.

      Yeah, I can attest to that; a friend bought me an NGE model for my birthday a couple years ago, and it wouldn't stop falling apart. It's in a box in my closet right now, in several pieces, collecting dust.

    18. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, NGE is a special Anime - it is pretty deep, and it isn't shallow metaphysical discourse, for sure not.

      NGE is very long anime, 26 episodes a 25 mins (as I saw it) - subtitled I watched it. I was bored watching it, there were episodes which has 2 mins real content, and 23 mins boring still pictures . . .

      NGE isn't easy to watch, it has extremely poor scenes, it is in parts extremely boring, but there are moments which are deep, very deep. And those deep moments (lasting more than a moment but extend over 10-15 mins in the best case) make it worth - yes, it sounds odd, but Animes aren't known to be deep, but NGE has it - but it has also boring parts.

      What amazed me was that the script, the director could not maintain a certain level of depth, from boring, superficial, and really odd scenes (like almost all scenes in school and among school mates are embarassing for the anime-makers) - but there (sorry to repeat myself) deep moments, and you might likely miss it if you are not used as such huge discrepancy of quality within an Anime.

      I wished NGE would be condensed, and maybe done 2.5hrs special edition or cut.

      What I considered "deep" in NGE? It was the concept what a robot, what a body, what the identity really is, what the humankind is heading to.

      But then again, Princess Mononoke I consider the best Anime/Animation I have seen, first quality story IMHO - a masterpiece. I know it was hyped in the USA, and people now tend to opose this type because it became hype - yet, in Europe this anime hardly was shown, only few theaters, every friend I suggested the anime was impressed, even people who were not so inclined to spirituality, but they surely liked that there was no simple good vs evil setup, but a more sophisticated story-line, who, I think, everyone who is able to reflect could see how profound the message is which this anime carries - and hardly any Hollywood can catch up with that quality of story.

      Take care.

    19. Re:Is Anime really that good? by bolthole · · Score: 2

      It seems common to rave about akira. But I am less than impressed with it as a whole work. To me, it is a potentially good story, with some really beautiful animation scenes here and there, mixed in with just too much gratuitous violence and grossness. I mean, the bike chase scene is beautiful, with great 'director' choices, with the trailing lights. but theres just too much focus on, "something is going to blow up/die/get twisted - lets focus on it in gruesome detail for as long as we can get away with it"

      Yuk.

  28. More Dreamworks Anime stuff here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  29. Perfect Blue - Requiem for a dream coincidence? by unikron · · Score: 1

    Check out the bathroom scene in both films...
    Now is real life imitating art or vice versa?

  30. Stuff that Matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, cracklin' Rosie get on board
    We're gonna ride till there ain't no more to go, takin' it slow
    And Lord don't you know, I'll have me a time with a poor man's lady
    Hitchin' on a twilight train
    Ain't nothin' here that I care to take along, maybe a song
    To sing when I want
    Don't need to say please to no man for a happy tune

    Oh I love my Rosie child
    You got the way to make me happy
    You and me we go in style
    Cracklin' Rose, you're a store bought women
    But you make me sing like a guitar hummin'
    So hang on to me girl our song keeps runnin' on
    Play it now, play it now, play it now my baby

    Cracklin' Rosie make me a smile
    And girl if it lasts for an hour, well that's alright
    'Cause we got all night, to set the world right
    Find us a dream that don't ask no questions, yeah

    Oh I love my Rosie child
    You got the way to make me happy
    You and me we go in style
    Cracklin' Rose you're a store bought woman
    But you make me sing like a guitar hummin'
    So hang on to me girl, our song keeps runnin' on
    Play it now, play it now, play it now my baby

    Cracklin' Rosie make me a smile
    Girl if it lasts for an hour, well that's alright
    'Cause we got all night, to set the world right
    Find us a dream that don't ask no questions
    Ba ba ba ba ba
    Ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba, ba ba ba, ba ba ba
    Ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba, ba ba ba ba ba

    -- M.Z.

  31. Re:could it be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the hell has happened to trollaxor.com?

  32. Deleting pr0n for Anime??? by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 3, Funny


    Actually just combine your two passions, and download Hentai instead. That's what I do...

  33. A reality check, and short play! by Gizzmonic · · Score: 5, Funny
    I'd like to take this moment to advise anyone who thinks anime is "deep" or "mature" to step back and take a long, hard look at themselves.

    Hey, we all have our bad habits, just fess up. I myself enjoy pro wrestling, Mike Tyson's punch-out, and redhead lesbian pr0n. And I'm okay with that. I don't try to convince others that these habits have any cultural value, because they probably don't.

    To help you along your way, I've written a short play:

    Anime, by Gizzmonic

    ANIME GUY #1: Hey you, Anime Guy #2. I don't like you!

    ANIME GUY #2: Well, I don't like you either!

    ANIME GUY #1: Shall we fight?

    ANIME GUY #2: No, I got a better idea. Let's like, grunt for a few minutes, okay?

    ANIME GUY #1: GRRRRRRRR!!!

    ANIME GUY #2: GRRRRRRRR!!!

    Five minutes later:

    ANIME GUY #1: Boy, I'm really not moving while I grunt. There's a few lines moving in the background though. Did I have a stroke?

    ANIME GUY #2: Nope, you're just poorly animated. Let's try something new-here, I'll zap you with this laser!

    ANIME GUY #1: Won't that hurt?

    ANIME GUY #2: Nope, but it sure will blow up some buildings that don't appear to be anywhere near you!

    ANIME GUY #1: Hmm. This is boring.

    ANIME GUY #2: It's not boring, here, I'll disembowel you!

    ANIME GUY #1: Zounds. I am disemboweled. (dies)

    ANIME GUY #2: You are dead, and now your spirit will become one with the land. You see, mankind shouldn't tamper with the forces of nature, otherwise they could unleash a great evil!

    SMOKEY THE BEAR: That's right, kids! And remember, stamp all fires dead out!

    ANIME GUY #2: The power is yours!

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    1. Re:A reality check, and short play! by Bodrius · · Score: 2

      I was going to write a through and complex argument about common logical errors (Dragonball is, sadly, Anime but not all Anime is Dragonball).

      But then I realized all I had to do to refute this was to tell the troll to go see Perfect Blue, WHICH IS LINKED IN THE ARTICLE.

      A troll about Anime could have been done so much better...

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    2. Re:A reality check, and short play! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I starting watching Perfect Blue once, but man, that animation doesn't look anything like good anime. Yuck.

    3. Re:A reality check, and short play! by Rasta+Prefect · · Score: 2

      You've obviously been watching Dragonball. While I feel your pain, I really do have to object to your characterization of all Anime as being like above. Cartoon Network is quite frankly a really crappy sampling. (Not that I claim it has any greater cultural significance than say, my penchant for Horror and SciFi movies. I just hate to see people judge anime on the basis of the crap that makes it to American television. And don't even get me started on what Fox did to Escaflowne....)

      Perfect Blue.

      Kenshin, OAVs (Known in this country as Samurai X)

      His and Hers Circumstances

      Princess Mononoke

      Grave of the Fireflies.

      Neon Genesis Evangelion

      Escaflowne

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    4. Re:A reality check, and short play! by ObiWonKanblomi · · Score: 0

      Perfect Blue - sucks

      Kenshin, OAVs (Known in this country as Samurai X) - has the same sorta lazy hero that has some eating issue.

      Princess Mononoke - It's a good, interesting work. I've seen nausicca and the crimson pig too, and they are okay...nothing special though.

      Grave of the Fireflies. - stupid movie. it's only good if you're watching it with a gal who will put out.

      Neon Genesis Evangelion - I mustn't run away...from watching the remaining half of the OAV's!

      Escaflowne - Good, but the soundtrack uses the same damn chick for the soundtrack....blah!

  34. dreamworks link by XtAt · · Score: 2, Informative

    does that dreamworks link own your mozilla?
    i get instafreeze on 1.0 :\

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    - about me
    1. Re:dreamworks link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It works fine for me (Mozilla 1.0 in x86 Linux running through Galeon).

  35. Why Slashdot Sucks Now by Qrlx · · Score: 1, Troll

    Let's see, on the front page we have two stories. One is entitled "MPAA Requests Immunity to Commit Cyber-Crimes" and it's all about those evil Hollywood companies and how they're going to DoS you because you have a few MP3s on your box.

    Then, there's this story about how kewl all this new Anime is and how awesome it will be if Hollywood can bring more Anime to American consumers.

    You all are a bunch of f@#$ing morons. You can't even tell when your culture is being co-opted by THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SCREW YOU. You're even freaking happy about it, like it will become BETTER when it goes mainstream? What? You think this world will be a better place if Hollywood owns the rights to all your precious kewl anime!?

    I simply can't believe the rampant, ignorant hypocrisy of this forum. It's like it's nothing but a bunch of 1337 5cr1p7 k1dd135 talking shit about "anarchy" and "f@#$ the man" while they're pumping every last dollar into the latest shiny entertainment trinket the local Best Buy has to offer.

    1. Re:Why Slashdot Sucks Now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Before you start whinging about us being morons, you might want to do some fact checking yourself. Most of the US anime importers are not MPAA members, and have no connection to it. Most of the voice actors aren't even SAG members. There are exceptions, now that some big companies are getting into the picture (Disney, Columbia/TriStar), but the main anime companies like ADV have nothing at all to do with your complaint.

      And all the Studio Ghibli movies (the ones Disney has licensed) can be purchased from Japan, since they've basically all got english subs on the R2.

    2. Re:Why Slashdot Sucks Now by bolthole · · Score: 2

      got a preferred URL for 'purchased from Japan' ?

  36. Let's Try Not To Oversimplify by krmt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hate this troll. How many times a day do we see people posting about the so-called hypocrisy of slashdot? It's such a disgusting oversimplification that I can't tell if the people posting are really just trolling, or if they're simply short-sighted idiots who just want to hate slashdot.

    Slashdot is a big and complicated community with a lot of different posters from various backgrounds, countries, and outlooks on life. Because it is not a monoculture, you get many different posts with many different opinions. Some people will ferverently boycott the RIAA and the MPAA while others don't care in the slightest and will continue to spend their entertainment dollars as usual. Many fall somewhere in the middle, concerned about what is happening but not so concerned as they are about other things.

    The entertainment industry too, is a large and complex entity. Many people feel that, while they don't agree with the entertainment industry's actions in the political arena, they enjoy what the entertainment industry produces enough to overcome this distaste. It's a question of priorities, and because this is a large and relatively diverse forum, you get a variety of feelings and actions on the subject. Others simply don't care at all about the politics, so long as they are able to buy products that satisfy them.

    Even the editors are not of one mind. Most of the stories against the RIAA and MPAA are posted by Michael, while most of the anime ones are posted by CmdrTaco. There is no reason why, on a site such as this, that hardly pretends to editorial professionalism (no matter how much many posters would want it) there should be one single overriding features of all stories. No, wait, I take it back. There is one overriding feature of all the stories, and it's "News for Nerds". Now, the term nerd is a fairly loose one, and as such it encompasses many people with diverse opinions. As such, we get stories posted on different subjects with differing slants. Now, any thinking person would never take this as gospel, but would instead use the differing opinions to weigh out their own viewpoint. Do I want to boycott the MPAA, or do I think their product is so good that it outweighs the politics? By asking this sort of question, we are able to make better decisions about the world that we live in. I, for one, appreciate it, and am glad that both sides are presented.

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  37. Hamtaro the MOVIE!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hamha!!
    Forget about Americanized anime. Hamutaro The Movie is coming December 14th!!!! So far I'm guessing it will only be released in Japan at this time because it's only mentioned on the Japanese Hamtaro site. Hamtaro and the Ham-Hams are the cutest and funniest things I've seen in animation in a LONG time. It's probably the most popular anime right now since DBZ and coincidentally uses some of the same actors for voices (Boss= Yamcha, Hamtaro= Gohan,Goten,young Goku). All praise Toonami and CartoonNetwork for bringing us this cute little Kushi-kushiing Ham-ham.

  38. Anime won't become widespread.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..in the US, without a hell of a lot of luck.

    Why?

    For every Evangelion, you have three dozen Pokemon/DBZ's.

  39. Kinda curious about that actually. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    not being a big anime otaku
    do any anime series in japanese have sponsors drawn in?

    1. Re:Kinda curious about that actually. by DLWormwood · · Score: 1

      I have the DVD of "Gunsmith Cats," and it has commercial logos as part of the scenery. However, the story takes place in Chicago, so most of the stuff are American companies, not a perfect example.

      I do know that more geeky anime like "Otaku No Video" is filled with inside jokes and images derived from real life companies, and some manga have placements (like a Pocky reference I read in a Oh! My Goddess book.)

      Does this answer your question? ^_^

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      Those who complain about affect & effect on /. should be disemvoweled
  40. Meanwhile, Buena Vista is getting back into anime by Obiwan+Kenobi · · Score: 3, Informative

    For proof, check out this awesome poster for Spirited Away, Buena Vista's (ie Disney's) first foray into the world of Japenese animation on a wide-release scale since Princess Mononoke. The film has broken all kinds of records in Japan and I hope it does the same here as well. The poster looks great, I've heard nothing but fantastic stuff about it, and this should easily top Millenium Actress if the marketing push works.

    Here's to hoping it does.

    ps - and I hope they don't screw up the DVD and force an uproar like Princess Mononoke did :)

  41. "Delves"? by Pseudonym · · Score: 3

    Dreamworks was making Anime five years ago. Doesn't anyone remember Invasion America?

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    1. Re:"Delves"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When most people use the term "Anime" they are referring to Japanese Animation, not American animation. I'm not saying you can't classify Invasian America as anime if you want to. But the majority of people who talk about Anime aren't going to consider that to be Anime.

  42. Peter G? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many /. readers actually know who Peter Gzowski actually was?

    What would the CBC think about /. anyway?

  43. Which film after Perfect Blue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have only seen two Anime films - Perfect Blue and Mononoke. Loved Perfect Blue but didn't like Mononoke much (all those talking animals didn't do it for me). What films should I look out for, especially ones with sexy babes?

  44. Oh come on, that was funny. by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 2

    Yes, we all hate Dragonball Z. Yes, I've been meaning to rent Perfect Blue for a while now. I still enjoy poking fun at some of the more common conventions of (bad) anime, and the conventions of good ones too. Even Ghost in the Shell has fan service and talky philosophy breaks...

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  45. Hehe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trolls 0wnz this story!

  46. It Is All About The Okane by EXTomar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Dreamworks sees these niche movies that cost next to nothing to distribute and always make money in their limited runs. Sure they'll never play as big as MIB2 but they are a hell of a lot bankable.

    Dreamworks also wants to break into animation so it is also about marketing. THE IRON GIANT is a very good movie...the kind of stuff Dreamworks wants to make. But as Warner Brothers found out they couldn't drag people into THE IRON GIANT because of the stigma of US Animation. You only take kids to light and bubble US Animation while THE IRON GIANT definately was something different. Anime however has a different aura around it. People expect slick visuals and complex themed stories from Anime movies. While Dreamworks can make movies like SHREK they'll never be able to market anything they make as "anime style" at the moment or it will be such a tremendious risk that no producer will back them even if Dreamworks fronts the production facilities. The next best thing to do, and by far safer, is to get the real stuff from the source.

    1. Re:It Is All About The Okane by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

      Actually, the reason why The Iron Giant failed in theatrical was the fact that many Americans felt the movie had too much of a politically correct tone, which really hurt its chances to be successful among the majority of American viewers. (It should be noted that many reviewers that otherwise liked the movie had this criticism, too.) If the producers had avoided that cliché it probably would have done quite a bit better in terms of box office revenues.

  47. I've seen that quote before . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "Beauty, power, mystery, and above all, heart."

    This was a blip from Cameron on Tezuka's Metropolis . . . widely touted after the film's Japanese release, and plainly visible on the back of the American DVD box !

    So it's either one of two things : the US poster is a hoax, or someone at Disney screwed up again.

    Personally, I'd vote the latter . . .

  48. Re:Meanwhile, Buena Vista is getting back into ani by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Net reports indicate that Buena Vista Japan has screwed up the Spirited Away DVDs. There is apparently a red tint to everything (leaving screens that should be white rather closer to pink, for instance).
    There are conflicting rumors about why this happened, some are saying it was a planned thing, even indicating Miyazaki's approval, but that's something I find very hard to credit. Most high end TVs (HDTVs, which are much more widespread in Japan than the US) have a problem known as "red push". Different sets have it to different degrees, but what it means is that almost all HDTVs over-emphasise the red in a display. Careful adjustments can reduce or elimante this, but these tend to cost money or take time and skill. All this means that most HDTV sets will already be emphasising red too much; adding more red to the DVD encode seems like a supremely stupid move. I simply cannot imagine that anyone familiar with colors and DVD encoding would think this sort of change could possibly come out good.

  49. Classic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think that's the first time I've even seen "Perfect Blue" and "Classic" used in the same sentence other than by Manga Entertainment (where everything is a "classic", or "from the creators of Ghost in the Shell".)

  50. Millenium Actress by ralian · · Score: 2

    That was a great movie. I was fortunate enough to see it at the world premiere at the Montreal 'Fantasia' Asian Film Festival a year ago. Dreamworks deserves congratulations for picking this up.

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  51. Cowboy Bebop and Tri-Star by kerasineAddict · · Score: 1

    I read (on big apple anime site I think...)that Tri-Star also picked up Cowboy Bebop. But the article also said that it was dubbed in English. They didn't bother/didn't want to dub Metropolis...but does anybody know anything about the Cowboy Bebop dub? Did they hire the great voiceactors from Bandai (who dubbed the TV series)?

    1. Re:Cowboy Bebop and Tri-Star by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Cowboy Bebop dub has been on tv for about a year on Cartoon Network. I've seen most of the episodes in both Japanese and English (sad to say I haven't seen them all yet, *sigh*), and I can honestly say that to me the dub is excellent. This is probably the only dub that I would stand behind. The translation is perfect, and the voices are great, although I don't know who did them. It sounds like this is one of the few dubs not done in Canada, and no offense to Canadians, but the accent sticks out like crazy in most cartoon network/WB anime. I don't think they edited anything for content either. All in all - good anime, English or Japanese

  52. Dreamworks = Disney by Mulletproof · · Score: 2

    I know, I know... Princess Mono, but this really is a bad omen... Mark my words... Of course, i could be paranoid at this point... A company the size of Disney would represent a large cash infusion into the genre... But it's DISNEY!!!

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  53. Didn't Spielburg work with Don Bluth before? by ObiWonKanblomi · · Score: 0

    I like Don Bluth. Good american animator that's been forced to only make kids cartoons. Good movies though. Secret of Nymh rocked.

  54. Well, I guess everyone is looking to save money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks to me that everyone is looking to save money. With this move then can cut their stable of rendering power down to 4% since these "animated" movies only runs at one FPS!
    And think of the ads of next generation graphic cards.
    "Get this card and render the latest movie Khchaki Fu, in Dreamworks quality in only 10 min.(at least P-II processor required)"

  55. U.S. Developing 100-Kilowatt Laser for Strike Figh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Posted by michael on Friday July 26, @09:45AM from the you-light-up-my-life dept.

    redwolfoz writes "New Scientist reports that American defence contractors, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon, are developing a 100-kilowatt infrared laser weapon for the F35 Joint Strike Fighter that may be powerful enough to blind people on the ground, even if they are relatively far from the target."

  56. MORE TENTACLE RAPE PORN FROM CMDR TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    boo-ya

  57. This document is the API specification for the Jav by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    JavaTM 2 Platform, Standard Edition, v 1.3.1 API Specification

  58. purchased from Japan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/anime/anime/bestseller.ht ml used to be the place, but I bet others can add better ones.

  59. Grave of the Fireflies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Says Ebert:
    "Grave of the Fireflies" is an emotional experience so powerful that it forces a rethinking of animation. Since the earliest days, most animated films have been "cartoons" for children and families. Recent animated features such as "The Lion King," "Princess Mononoke" and "The Iron Giant" have touched on more serious themes, and the "Toy Story" movies and classics like "Bambi" have had moments that moved some audience members to tears. But these films exist within safe confines; they inspire tears, but not grief. "Grave of the Fireflies" is a powerful dramatic film that happens to be animated, and I know what the critic Ernest Rister means when he compares it to "Schindler's List" and says, "It is the most profoundly human animated film I've ever seen."

    Grave of the Fireflies is a very good movie, and easily the most sad movie I have ever seen, animated or otherwise. If you want to see something that challenges some traditional ideas of what animation is capable of, this is it.

  60. Thankyou all by spoco2 · · Score: 1

    I just thought it fitting to say "Thankyou" to all who provided a great list of titles and reasons for watching. (Well, all bar the twit who said "Uhm, if Mononoke Hime made you feel underwhelmed, then just forget about this Anime thing and go back to watching college movies...". Fine, fine stereotyping there sir. Fine work)

    I now have some definitive points to start from in trying to discover the wonder in Anime (Be it a medium/style/format... :)

    In regards to those who gave 'serious' American Cartoons... yeah, I had considered all the Fritz the Cat, Metal Gear etc... but all of them aren't really 'serious', they are just comedies like all the kiddy cartoons, only with a more adult bent.... and drugs.

    I shalst do my best now to hire some DVDs and sit down and watch these films/series.

    Thanks again. :)

  61. The goal isn't to covert everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The goal is to change the mindset of the west that animated == kiddy entertainment. I think that is the most important thing. If we do that, we could have some good, adult, western produced animation become more common.

    One of my favorite animated series is actually an American one: The Maxx, by Sam Kieth, based on his comic book (he has also done a little work in the Sandman series). Anyways, The Maxx was a conversion of the first story arc in the comic book, and that's all they made of the series, and it only lasts 7 shows.