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Dreamworks Delves Into Anime

peter_gzowski writes "Dreamworks has acquired the license for the worldwide distribution of Satoshi Kon's latest picture, Millennium Actress. Satoshi Kon is best known for directing the anime classic Perfect Blue, but has also worked on Patlabor 2 and Roujin Z (the latter two from the director of Ghost in the Shell & Akira, respectively). Read about it from Yahoo! Movies or Anime News Network, whichever you prefer. I guess Dreamworks was feeling left out after Miramax (with Princess Mononoke) and Columbia Tri-Star (with Final Fantasy and Metropolis) got into the anime distribution business. Maybe Spielberg and company will fare better trying to convince North American audiences to watch serious animated films."

162 comments

  1. could it be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    yet another first jesus h. christ post. Hallelujah!

    1. Re:could it be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the hell has happened to trollaxor.com?

  2. MORE TENTACLE RAPE PORN FROM CMDR TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

  3. perfect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Instead of work, I'd rather just die.
    I'm just gonna keep doing whatever I want.
    I don't care what you think.

  4. Good Evening, Gentlemen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

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  5. Do you it will work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An American company doing asian based cartoons?

    1. Re:Do you it will work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No I it indeed.

    2. Re:Do you it will work? by H3XA · · Score: 0, Troll

      thats ok....... as long as its NOT Pokemon.
      - HeXa

  6. hopefully... by 601 · · Score: 1

    let's just hope this'll have a positive effect on the way our blockbuster-loving country views anime. that is, unless, we see guinness, lexus, etc. advertisements written in...

  7. Macross Plus... by JoeLinux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've always thought that Macross Plus would make a kick-ass live action movie, or even re-released for American audiences in the movies, would make for something that they could follow.

    JoeLinux

    Strip Mining prevents forest fires.

    1. Re:Macross Plus... by H3XA · · Score: 1

      I was raised on Robotech when I was a kid.... got me interested in anime - then Ghost in the Shell got be addicted.

      "You know you are addicted when you delete your pr0n collection to make room for Anime"

      - HeXa

    2. Re:Macross Plus... by Malicious · · Score: 1

      Speilberg: So can i direct Starwars 3? Lucas: No. Speilberg: Please? Lucas: Still no. Speilberg: Fine, i'm going to japan, to show you how Scifi's supposed to be done. The World:

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    3. Re:Macross Plus... by krmt · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I've always thought that Macross Plus would make a kick-ass live action movie, or even re-released for American audiences in the movies, would make for something that they could follow.
      They already did. It's called Top Gun.

      Seriously, it's obvious when you watch it, and they even advertise it on the front of the DVD as the anime version of Top Gun.
      --

      "I may not have morals, but I have standards."

    4. Re:Macross Plus... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that Top Gun sucks in comparison to Macross Plus...

    5. Re:Macross Plus... by boy_afraid · · Score: 0

      Yeah! Top Gun is good for a jet fighting movie, but a real live action movie with transforming mecha and battle pods is cool!!! With today's special effects it could easily be done.

      Just imagine a live action scene where Rick Hunter is in his VF1 trying to catch Minmei as she free falls. Rick has to manuver the arm while he is in Guardian mode to catch her and keep a hold on her. Then we all know that he can't and ends up, if memory serves me right, opening the cockpit and getting her in. All this while free falling.

      That would make a kick-ass scene!!!!

      Let's petions this !!!

  8. Princess Mononoke by soapvox · · Score: 1

    Probably one of the best anime films I have seen sice Akira and Vampire Hunter D (Which is an amazing DVD). It would be great to see an American film company do this but I think on Miramax or Sony Classics could pull it off, I mean c'mon spieldberg and co think good film is better than crappy but big money maker, I don't think so, I think I smell another Pokemon movie.

    1. Re:Princess Mononoke by SWTP · · Score: 1

      I agree on Mononke! Oustanding film!

      The only problem with Mononoke was Mirmax did a horrible job of marking and distribution. Only Iron Giant was done worse.

      I am worried about how these clowns will do with Spirited Away since its slated for September 20 move and if correct, Oct 8 for video release!

      I wont get into the "Red Tint" problem from BV Japan pressing on the R2 DVD release of SA.

    2. Re:Princess Mononoke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You loved mononoke ?
      Check out chihiro ,myasaki's last movie, it is as awesome as the previous one.

  9. Anime. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is a dangerous development. We all know that anime is like D&D, it leads to otherwise normal nerds, becoming arrogant and confident to the point where they feel big enough to act out their fantasies. These of course center around choke sex and tenticle rape that the moderators think about constantly.

    1. Re:Anime. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ominous voiceover: Dungeons and Dragons. Satan's game. Your children, like it or not, are attracted in their weaker years to the occult, and a game like D&D fuels their imagination, and makes them feel 'special' while drawing them deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo. This afternoon, the Dead Alewives Watchtower invites you to sit in on an actual gaming 'session'. Observe the previously unobservable as a hidden camera takes you to the inner sanctum of... Dungeons and Dragons!

    2. Re:Anime. by terriblekarmanow+tm · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I had to strip most of the comments because Taco thinks comments are "junk characters". How fitting.

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    3. Re:Anime. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Actually, my fantasies revolve around using a Sakaba sword and really flashy techniques to LART luser Kenshin-style. Tentacle rape was never my thing; I always wished for a tongue like Gene Simmons of KISS had. >^..^

    4. Re:Anime. by dswensen · · Score: 1

      Can I have a Mountain Dew?

  10. The first and last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Akira.. never seen anything like it done better.

  11. Anyone ever go troll Slashcode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I realise it's not as visible, but I doubt that many troll for attention. It doesn't seem to have the two minute limit between posts. You can still post subject lines with no post, though it seems to be touchy about how you do it. Oh, and Taco:

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  13. Forgive my Tacoism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Maxtor is Western Digital no matter how many kernels you compile.

    It should read Maxtor is NOT Western Digital. I got excited about circumventing the troll ban.

  14. Excited.. by billatq · · Score: 1

    I'm quite excited about this movie, because I really liked Perfect Blue. I suppose this is a strange coincidence, but I checked it out and watched it for the first time on Monday. I just hope that they don't price it unreasonably.

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    --
    old enough to set the table, old enough to pass the meat
  17. LNUX IS WORTH SIXTY-TWO CENTS YOU FAGGOTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


  18. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  19. MAXTOR?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Throughout history, Taco shall be known for this momentary lapse of due diligence.

    1. Re:MAXTOR?!? by H3XA · · Score: 1

      I bet he is "Mister Popular" at that conference he is attending wth all then attention he has got over that "slight" stuff up.

      - HeXa

    2. Re:MAXTOR?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just be glad it got corrected. It's a miracle that one of the slashdot editors actually *read* slashdot to notice the mistake.

  20. Can't see how... by Chemical · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can't see how this will be a good thing. The only good Dreamworks might do get some "well known" people to do voice acting (not that I care as I am a sub-snob) and perhaps get a somewhat large exposure at big cinemas. Other than that, this is more or less a bad thing. The American Anime-only distribution companies like ADV and the like by the fans, for the fans. They care about their fans and do their best to make their fans happy. Dreamworks and other Hollywood stuidos couldn't give a flying fuck about the fans and just want to make some cash. They will rape the movie any way they can if they think it will earn them a couple more bucks. Disney/Miramax wanted to rape Princess Mononoke by censoring it, and they would have if they weren't restricted by the contract. Tri-Star did an all right job with Metropolis but the translation was sub-ADV. I can't imagine what Dreamworks, another animation studio known more for "kiddie" movies, plans to do with this, but I don't think Dreamworks buying the distribution rights is going to be beneficial to anime fans.

    1. Re:Can't see how... by Golias · · Score: 3, Interesting
      You speak like an anime snob, yet fess up to watching Metropolis with the dub track. The cognative dissonance is a little much to overcome.

      Metropolis was the shit, by the way. A little slow to get started, but worth it in the end. Everybody go rent it, and be sure to watch it in Japanese.

      Back to your point: I could not disagree more. Big distributors selling anime is good news. For all your ADV snobbery, I am compelled to point out that some of these small distributors are doing a half-assed job at best. A friend of mine has had to return his Slayers DVD boxed set three times now because the audio track was all fucked up.

      --

      Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

    2. Re:Can't see how... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      If there is one thing good about a big company like Dreamworks licensing Millenium Actress, it's the fact that it will actually get some international exposure without having to go to a local distributer or somesuch. I live in Australia, and it's particularly hard to come by anime in the stores (due to our just about single distributer) let alone the cinemas. Take for example Metropolis, the only reason why I can see it next week (albeit way later than people in the US but something is better than nothing) is because Tri-Star licensed it. Princess Mononoke was also shown here a while back, but as that got an R rating I couldn't see it at the time. I think that it's good that some of the big companies are paying attention, if only to get a little more screen time here in Australia and other countries other than America.

      meanwhile ive waited too long for my password to be sent so blah

      -lainster

    3. Re:Can't see how... by AtomicToad · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't want to start a flame here (although it's kinda hard to avoid when a bunch of people start talking about anime!), but it just appears that you misread a few things in the post you are replying to.

      He never said that he watched the dubbed version of Metropolis. He said the translation wasn't very good. This is correct. The SUBBED translation was simply horrible. Besides the fact that it could have been much smoother, they even changed the people's NAMES for no reason! "Litegong"?! You can't even pronounce that in Japanese! Even if you don't speak Japanese, you'd still notice something wrong with the translation if you paid attention, and that alone would make it a bad translation.

      But yeah, big distributors distribuing anime is good as long as the original compaines don't get screwed over in their contracts (see Princess Mononoke censorship example of what was narrowly avoided somewhere else in this thread). I really don't care how much they screw up the anime -- it introduces it to a new audience and if they care enough they can track down the better subbed versions and hear better voice acting themselves. I got into Dragon Ball Z by watching it on the Cartoon Network, now I can't stomach that stuff for even a second, but I'm happy -- now I'm a hardcore fan -- of the original Japanese version.

    4. Re:Can't see how... by krmt · · Score: 1

      FYI, the English translation was done by Neil Gaiman of Sandman fame. When I heard he was doing it, I was surprised, since it seemed like it was very much out of his expertise.

      FWIW, I didn't think the translation was so bad. Granted, I saw the dubbed version (it was the only way I could see it on the big screen) but I didn't think it was so poorly done. Nothing glared out at me, but then, I'm no expert.

      --

      "I may not have morals, but I have standards."

    5. Re:Can't see how... by Golias · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I really don't care how much they screw up the anime -- it introduces it to a new audience and if they care enough they can track down the better subbed versions and hear better voice acting themselves. I got into Dragon Ball Z by watching it on the Cartoon Network, now I can't stomach that stuff for even a second, but I'm happy -- now I'm a hardcore fan -- of the original Japanese version.

      Exactly. Even butchered anime can good for the genre in general if it builds the market. Look at how many Americans became anime fans in the first place by watching Robotech, which was a lazy re-edit of Macross. They know better now, but they may have never started watching had they not seen the chopped-up stuff first.

      Personally, I was a "Battle of the Planets" kid. I guess that makes me an "old-skool" anime nerd.

      --

      Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

    6. Re:Can't see how... by JimPooley · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, Gaiman didn't do the translation from the Japanese - someone else did that (in the subtitles) and Gaiman just re-wrote from the translation to capture the spirit of the Japanese text.
      i.e. - In the subtitles there's 'the deer god'
      In Gaiman's reinterpretation of the translation used for the English voice track, it's 'The great forest spirit' - which is more the meaning of what is said rather than a literal translation.

      --

      "Information wants to be paid"
    7. Re:Can't see how... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Just some advice here, an effective writer just doesn't toss the word rape around. Its like seeing the word 'fuck' in every sentence. Whatever point you were trying to make was drowned out by the little voice in my head telling me that you are an incredibly petulant little fanboy of no consequence.

    8. Re:Can't see how... by terriblekarmanow+tm · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I had to strip all comments because Taco thinks comments are "junk characters". How fitting.

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      {
      if (ints[0] == 1)
      panic_timeout = ints[1];
      }

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      {
      static char buf[1024];
      va_list args;
      int i;

      va_start(args, fmt);
      vsprintf(buf, fmt, args);
      va_end(args);
      printk(KERN_EMERG "Kernel panic: %s\n",buf);
      if (current == task[0])
      printk(KERN_EMERG "In swapper task - not syncing\n");
      else
      sys_sync();

      do_unblank_screen();

      if (panic_timeout > 0)
      {
      printk(KERN_EMERG "Rebooting in %d seconds..",panic_timeout);
      for(i = 0; i < (panic_timeout*1000); i++)
      udelay(1000);
      hard_reset_now();
      }
      for(;;);
      }

      int bad_user_access_length(void)
      {
      panic("bad_user_access_length executed (not cool, dude)");
      }

      --
      I'm not a troll, but I play one on Slashdot
    9. Re:Can't see how... by krmt · · Score: 1

      Nifty. Thanks for the clarification. My faith in Neil is restored! :-)

      --

      "I may not have morals, but I have standards."

    10. Re:Can't see how... by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

      Having seen the DVD (thanks to my brother's copy of the movie I bought him for Christmas present =) ), I think Gaiman's iuterpretation actually works quite well. It does much to understand the cultural context in what is probably the best anime feature film of the 1990's.

    11. Re:Can't see how... by A+Cheese+Danish · · Score: 1

      I think it doesn't really matter that big companies are licencing anime these days. The fact is, anime is getting licenced before it is finished in production. The trend is going to where there is a bigger market for anime here than there is in Japan (due to the enormous cellphone bills the Japanese are ringing up).

      The only thing I've noticed that happens when big studios get involved in anime distribution/dubbing/etc is that they end up tailoring it to the lowest common denominator to sell more copies, but, in the end, does a great disservice to the original, and I think tends to alienate people. When some people watch a bad dub, they tend to wonder what the heck the fuss is all about. Don't get me wrong, some dubs are really good, and I'm not above watching them if they are that good, but I think that all the big excitement over more anime exposure is overrated.

      Once we accept that anime is a niche market, and stop trying to convert every single person into an otaku, I think things will be better off for both anime and its perception by people outside the know.

      The above information was derived from a panel on the State of the Industry at Anime Mid-Atlantic. I would provide quotes to back this up, but I haven't found one not blocked by our nice filter at work.

      --
      Slashdot - Come for the creative thought, stay for the lesbians!
    12. Re:Can't see how... by lazuli42 · · Score: 1

      I am opening a comics shop focussing on anime and manga here in Indianapolis, so I'd like to throw in my response to your message.

      I am thrilled to hear this news. Dreamworks has produced only excellent movies and T.V. series since they were formed, and I completely trust their ability to promote this movie. I *want* anime to be exposed. I *want* it to become popular.

      Anime tells stories in ways that American producers can't figure out how to mimic. Why shouldn't fans of anime want more people to learn and appreciate this excelling art form?

      Corinna

      --

      "There's companies that are just so cool that you just can't even deal with it," - Bill Gates, about Google

  21. All this ascii art proves one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no lameness filter Neo.

  22. Listen to Notorious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Things Done Changed

    Verse One:

    Remember back in the days, when niggaz had waves
    Gazelle shades, and corn braids
    Pitchin pennies, honies had the high top jellies
    Shootin skelly, motherfuckers was all friendly
    Loungin at the barbeques, drinkin brews
    with the neighborhood crews, hangin on the avenues
    Turn your pagers, to nineteen ninety three
    Niggaz is gettin smoked G, believe me
    Talk slick, you get your neck slit quick
    Cause real street niggaz ain't havin that shit
    Totin techs for rep, smokin blunts in the project
    hallways, shootin dice all day
    Wait for niggaz to step up on some fightin shit
    We get hype and shit and start lifin shit
    So step away with your fist fight ways
    Motherfucker this ain't back in the days, but you don't hear me though

    Verse Two:

    No more cocoa leave-io, one two three
    One two three, all of this to me, is a mystery
    I hear you motherfuckers talk about it
    But I stay seein bodies with the motherfuckin chalk around it
    And I'm down with the shit too
    For the stupid motherfuckers wanna try to use Kung-Fu
    Instead of a Mac-10 he tried scrappin
    Slugs in his back and, that's what the fuck happens
    when you sleep on the street
    Little motherfuckers with heat, want ta leave a nigga six feet deep
    And we comin to the wake
    To make sure the cryin and commotion ain't a motherfuckin fake
    Back in the days, our parents used to take care of us
    Look at em now, they even fuckin scared of us
    Callin the city for help because they can't maintain
    Damn, shit done changed

    Verse Three:

    If I wasn't in the rap game
    I'd probably have a key knee deep in the crack game
    Because the streets is a short stop
    Either you're slingin crack rock or you got a wicked jumpshot
    Shit, it's hard being young from the slums
    eatin five cent gums not knowin where your meals comin from
    And now the shit's gettin crazier and major
    Kids younger than me, they got the Sky grand Pagers
    Goin outta town, blowin up
    Six months later all the dead bodies showin up
    It make me wanna grab the nine and the shottie
    But I gotta go identify the body
    Damn, what happened to the summertime cookouts?
    Everytime I turn around a nigga gettin took out
    Shit, my momma got cancer in her breast
    Don't ask me why I'm motherfuckin stressed, things done changed

  23. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  24. Why don't my bans last 72 hours? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Please, please prevent me from trolling here. It's so addictive.

    Mozlla is not Mozilla

    Maxtor is not Western Digital

  25. TEN AC POSTS BEFORE THE BAN KICKS IN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
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  27. Welcome to Slashdot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...the premiere SourceForge advertising network!

  28. Terms and conditions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  29. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    Pasta for Every Palate
    A pasta salad is only as good as the noodles that hold it all together. Have fun with different pasta shapes-short or long, narrow or wide, solid or hollow, big or small, flat or stuffed... you can put a brand new face on the same salad simply by varying the pasta. Pasta is made from many different types of flour, and colored beautifully with many different vegetables, so be adventurous and try something out of the ordinary-from rainbow radiatore, spinach ravioli, and whole wheat fettuccine, to corn macaroni, buckwheat soba noodles, and rice vermicelli. There's no way to get bored with pasta when the choices are so deliciously endless.

    It's even more important with pasta salad than with hot pasta dishes that you avoid overcooking the pasta. Overcooked pasta will fall apart when you try to toss it with dressing. Not only that, but if you allow your salad to "marinate" for several hours to let the flavors mingle, the pasta will soak up the moisture from the dressing and the other ingredients, turning slightly overcooked pasta to absolute moosh. Cook the pasta just until it becomes tender, pour it into a colander in the sink, then run cold water over it to stop the cooking and cool it down quickly. As soon as the pasta feels cool to the touch, shake the colander to drain off as much water as possible. Now dump the pasta into a bowl and toss it with some oil to keep it from sticking together.

    A Little of This, a Little of That...
    Because pasta itself is so versatile and mild in flavor, just about everything tastes good with it. Use ingredients that will give your pasta salad lots of varied taste and texture: cook vegetables just until tender, then plunge them into ice water to stop the cooking before they get mushy (this is called "refreshing" or "shocking" your vegetables), or just leave the vegetables crisp and raw. Other things to add gusto are toasted nuts, dried fruit, fresh herbs, crumbled cheese, and tidbits of your favorite meat.

    Dress for the Occasion
    To save a little time, you can always use bottled salad dressing to toss with your pasta salad, but if you're in a "from scratch" kind of mood, the possibilities are positively tantalizing. A mixture of oil and vinegar is arguably the most popular way to dress a pasta salad, but you can also make creamy dressing with mayonnaise, sour cream, or yogurt.

    For sautéing, it's fine to use vegetable oil, but for salad dressing, use high-quality, flavorful oils. Extra-virgin olive oil, toasted sesame oil, hazelnut oil, and walnut oil are all power-players in the world of taste, and you can get by with using much less oil while still adding superior flavor if you choose a bold one. To add that all-important zing to the dressing, try cider vinegar, balsamic vinegar, white wine vinegar, red wine vinegar, raspberry vinegar, or even lime or lemon juice. Whatever you use as the basis of your dressing, be sure to round it out with salt and pepper, and perhaps a dash of red pepper flakes, a little bit of crushed garlic, a dab of mustard, or anything else you think will make your pasta salad distinctly divine.

    -- M.Z.

  30. Who is this ascii master? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I have a profound respect for ascii art. I think it's considered lame by the site janitors because they don't have the imagination for it. Keep it up and flex and the lameness filter.

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  31. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    Microsoft Corporation

    William (Bill) H. Gates is chairman and chief software architect of Microsoft Corporation, the worldwide leader in software, services and Internet technologies for personal and business computing. Microsoft had revenues of $25.3 billion for the fiscal year ending June 2001, and employs more than 40,000 people in 60 countries.

    Born on October 28, 1955, Gates and his two sisters grew up in Seattle. Their father, William H. Gates II, is a Seattle attorney. Their late mother, Mary Gates, was a schoolteacher, University of Washington regent, and chairwoman of United Way International.

    Gates attended public elementary school and the private Lakeside School. There, he discovered his interest in software and began programming computers at age 13.

    In 1973, Gates entered Harvard University as a freshman, where he lived down the hall from Steve Ballmer, now Microsoft's chief executive officer. While at Harvard, Gates developed a version of the programming language BASIC for the first microcomputer - the MITS Altair.

    Top row: Steve Wood (left), Bob Wallace, Jim Lane. Middle row: Bob O'Rear, Bob Greenberg, Marc McDonald, Gordon Letwin. Bottom row: Bill Gates, Andrea Lewis, Marla Wood, Paul Allen. December 7, 1978.
    In his junior year, Gates left Harvard to devote his energies to Microsoft, a company he had begun in 1975 with his childhood friend Paul Allen. Guided by a belief that the computer would be a valuable tool on every office desktop and in every home, they began developing software for personal computers. Gates' foresight and his vision for personal computing have been central to the success of Microsoft and the software industry.

    Under Gates' leadership, Microsoft's mission has been to continually advance and improve software technology, and to make it easier, more cost-effective and more enjoyable for people to use computers. The company is committed to a long-term view, reflected in its investment of more than $4 billion on research and development in the current fiscal year.

    In 1999, Gates wrote Business @ the Speed of Thought, a book that shows how computer technology can solve business problems in fundamentally new ways. The book was published in 25 languages and is available in more than 60 countries. Business @ the Speed of Thought has received wide critical acclaim, and was listed on the best-seller lists of the New York Times, USA Today, the Wall Street Journal and Amazon.com. Gates' previous book, The Road Ahead, published in 1995, held the No. 1 spot on the New York Times' bestseller list for seven weeks.

    Gates has donated the proceeds of both books to non-profit organizations that support the use of technology in education and skills development.

    In addition to his love of computers and software, Gates is interested in biotechnology. He sits on the board of ICOS, a company that specializes in protein-based and small-molecule therapeutics, and he is an investor in a number of other biotechnology companies. Gates also founded Corbis, which is developing one of the world's largest resources of visual information - a comprehensive digital archive of art and photography from public and private collections around the globe. In addition, Gates has invested with cellular telephone pioneer Craig McCaw in Teledesic, which is working on an ambitious plan to employ hundreds of low-orbit satellites to provide a worldwide two-way broadband telecommunications service.

    Philanthropy is also important to Gates. He and his wife, Melinda, have endowed a foundation with more than $21 billion to support philanthropic initiatives in the areas of global health and learning, with the hope that as we move into the 21st century, advances in these critical areas will be available for all people. To date, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has committed more than $2 billion to organizations working in global health; more than $500 million to improve learning opportunities, including the Gates Library Initiative to bring computers, Internet Access and training to public libraries in low-income communities in the United States and Canada; more than $200 million to community projects in the Pacific Northwest; and more than $29 million to special projects and annual giving campaigns.

    Gates was married on Jan. 1, 1994, to Melinda French Gates. The couple has two children: a daughter, Jennifer Katharine Gates, born in 1996; and a son, Rory John Gates, born in 1999.

    Gates is an avid reader, and enjoys playing golf and bridge.

    -- M.Z.

  32. 9 out of 10 advertisements agree! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    The focus of OSDN is to market SourceForge to as many fools as possible before VA throws in the white towel and the execs make off with the last of the IPO money.

  33. Arrggh!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Advertisement overload.. too many product placements on Slashdot... more variety... Bring back Jon Katz!

  34. Math.PI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 10582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706 79821480865132823066470938446095505822317253594081 28481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381 96442881097566593344612847564823378678316527120190 91456485669234603486104543266482133936072602491412 73724587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364 36789259036001133053054882046652138414695194151160 94330572703657595919530921861173819326117931051185 48074462379962749567351885752724891227938183011949 12983367336244065664308602139494639522473719070217 98609437027705392171762931767523846748184676694051 32000568127145263560827785771342757789609173637178 72146844090122495343014654958537105079227968925892 35420199561121290219608640344181598136297747713099 60518707211349999998372978049951059731732816096318 59502445945534690830264252230825334468503526193118 81710100031378387528865875332083814206171776691473 03598253490428755468731159562863882353787593751957 78185778053217122680661300192787661119590921642019 89

    1. Re:Math.PI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No! Bad kitty! That's my pot PI!

      Screw you guys, I'm going home.

  35. Capitalism, the scourge of America's veins!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Remember when the USSR collapsed and the War on Evil had been won once more? The problem is people took the fall of Communism to be a vindication of Capitalism, but it wasn't. Communism was brought down by greed, the same force that drives the capitalist system we thought was so great until a few weeks ago. At first Enron looked like an anonomally, but with WorldCom, and AOL-TW, hitting the skids everybody ain't so sure no more.

    Power goes in cycles. Everything changes. We think Democracy is the answer today, and that it will always be the way it will be. Ha talk to the Romans! Things done changed, talk to Notorious.

  36. Millennium Actress by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...sounds like pretty fuckin gay name for a movie. The Japs never seem to worry too much about putting out gay shit though.

    More power to them.

  37. Re:Math.E by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    e =

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  38. Troll OUT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Troll out
    Troll out
    I got my blah blah blah blah JonKatz
    Me and my trollers we got that
    we trollin' on 20's with the blah blah
    so much trollin' you can't stop that

    where'd you get that goatse ass with the turds up in it?
    where'd you get that 200gb drive with the porn within it?
    who them girls you be with
    oh wait they're not girls, sucks to be you
    I got anime on my mind cause there's nothin else to do.

    blah blah blah blah... someone else finish this stupid rap.

    1. Re:Troll OUT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      lol....
      it's text freestyling
      about slashdot nerds
      thats fucking hilarious
      +5 troll!!
      -kw

  39. The Wrath by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The little farmers watched debt creep up on them like the tide. They sprayed the trees and sold no crop, they pruned and grafted and could not pick the crop. And the men of knowledge have worked, have considered, and the fruit is rotting on the ground, and the decaying mash in the wine vats is poisoning the air. And taste the wine--no grape flavor at all, just sulphor and tannic acid and alcohol.

    This little orchard will be part of a great holding next year, for the debt will have choked the owner.

    This vineyard will belong to the bank. Only the great owners can survive, for they won the canneries too. And four pears peeled and cut in half, cooked and canned, still cost fifteen cents. And the canned pears do not spoil. They will last for years.

    The decay spreads over the State, and the sweet smell is a great sorrow on the land. Men who can graft the trees and make the seed fertile and big can find no way to let the hungry people eat their produce. men who have created new fruits in the world cannot create a system whereby their fruits may be eaten. and the failure hangs over the State like a great sorrow.

    The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people come from miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosine on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit--and kerosine sprayed over the golden mountains.

    And the smell of rot fills the country.

    Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putresence drip down into the earth.

    There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificates--died of malnutrition-- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot.

    The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quicklime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is a failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

  40. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  41. I don't care - honestly by Akor · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Anime, but why should I care about some companies making money with it or not? Sure it would be a cool, if I could see my favourite Anime on the big screen, but I'm perfectly fine with fansubs! I think groups like Soldats are doing a great job atm.

  42. Might not be easy after all by forgoil · · Score: 3, Informative

    I do like anime myself, and I own a few DVDs (and japanese LDs). I did buy Mononoke Hime (twice;) LD/DVD) and I think it is interesting that American movie companies are getting their eyes up for anime.

    But it will not be easy, most of the target audience will not show up for an anime in theaters in the states. I just couldn't stand the horrible dub work for Mononoke myself, and the US audiences is not known for "reading" movies like some of us Europeans. The fact that it is !Disney and that it is animated will turn off a lot of people, making them go "I can watch cartoons on Cartoon Network, ok? I want to see ".

    One of the biggest reasons is that anime is not family movies in the states (like most of the Studio Ghibli movies are in Japan for example) and thus won't draw the important child+partent audience. And it is not "serious" enough for an older audience. Not because anime can't be good childrens movies or can not deal with very serious themes. Just because this is the view of it in the states.

    One very successful anime on the other hand is ghost in the shell, which is loaded with action and fits in well with the fairly young target audience. This is also an anime with a very good dub (I could watch the whole movie without wincing when actors sounded completely out of character the whole time). When (if?) they get around to do it, GITS2 could be a hit in the west as well.

    If anime wants to succeed it needs a few "flagships". Movies people remember and like, a TV series or two that they remember was good. My suggestion for this is to _not_ buy a movie/tvseries after it has premiered in Japan and is old.

    Dreamworks (etc) need to be a full partner and produce it together with the Japanese production team. Grab the American voice actors (for those seiyuu that can't speak English well enough) and send them to work side by side with the Japanese ones. Make the sequences that would be too culturally hard to understand into two sequences, one for US, one for JP (and use multi angles for something else than pr0n;)).

    For example, the new GITS TV series. Do what I suggest above and send it on prime time television and promote it. This would open up for anime and give subsequent TV series a better chance.

    (I would also like to see Dreamworks buy the rights for Studio Ghiblis movies, send them to THX for remastering, make real quality dubs, and put them out in out big blacing box. I would buy that for $250 on the day of the launch without a second thought (Except JIPPIE!). But I think that will remain a personal dream of mine since it is very unlikely that Disney will do anything good at all with them right now, since they own the rights in the west. I think that Miyazaki is unhappy about the situation, which is a shame because he is a very nice person and him and his team has made some of the most incredible movies of all times).

    1. Re:Might not be easy after all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Introduction
      What is phone sex?
      Isn't phone sex for dweebs, perverts and losers?
      How much is it going to cost me--really?
      How can I avoid getting ripped off?
      How can I get it for cheap--or free?
      What are the different kinds of phone sex service numbers?
      How can I get the most out of a phone sex call?
      What are some good numbers to call?
      Is it worth calling a phonesex number to learn how to "do it" right?
      Who is Joe Parsons, anyway??
      Thanks to...

      1. Introduction
      Welcome to the Phone sex FAQ. This document will hopefully answer a lot of questions you may have about the many ways to get your rocks off with a telephone call. Although erotic phone chat has been around for as long as people have communicated by telephone ("One ringy-dingy...two ringy-dingy...Gracious, hello! Mr. Vidal...what am I wearing now? I've got a short pink teddy, and my nipples are hard thinking about you. ". At some point a light bulb went on in some enterprising entrepreneur's mind and s/he decided there was a way to make money talking dirty. Before the days of the infotext (pay-per-call. industry phone sex operators would receive payment in advance of a call or have a credit card number on file for a regular caller.

      976 numbers changed the face of the phone sex industry. With this special exchange the owner of the phone sex business could establish a per-minute rate and let the phone company handle the billing and collection. The industry earned a black eye early in the game when preadolescent boys racked up thousands of dollars in charges calling phone sex operators.

      When abuses appear, regulation soon follows. Many phone companies, fearing adverse publicity, either discontinued 976 programs or simply refused to collect for those calls. "976" soon became synonymous with "phone smut," and those numbers all but died out.

      A desire for a positive public image soon lost out to desire for the revenues possible from pay-per-call business. The 900 exchange was born. The owner of the phone information business (the "Information Provider," or "IP" for short. would lease a line or group of lines from AT&T or MCI. Enterprising IPs discovered that people would pay anywhere from $1.00 per minute up to $50.00 per minute if they could get the information they sought. Software companies whose tech support departments were swamped discovered that their users were more than willing to pay $3.00 per minute to get technical questions answered without long waits on hold. Late night callers could call their own personal psychics at the urging of various movie or recording stars. Baseball players were setting up their own 900 numbers to get calls from adoring fans.

      Phone sex entrepreneurs jumped back into the fray as well. Soon there were full-color beaver shots showing up in Hustler and Penthouse urging the reader to "Call me--my pussy's hot for you now..." Callers were willing to pay in some cases hundreds of dollars for a call to one of these gorgeous, horny phone sex operators.

      As more and more IPs jumped visibly into the telephone sex business, the telephone companies were faced with the same old image problem. They knew they would not be able to shut down those operations, but the would be able to make life a lot more difficult. They did this by leasing these lines with a number of conditions. The most important of these was that they would not bill or collect for 900 sex lines. The IPs were now forced to turn to alternative, third-party billing for these calls. From a practical standpoint this meant that an IP could not be sure of collecting for any call made, since the telephone company would not disconnect the caller's service for an unpaid 900 bill. The rate of chargebacks increased dramatically.

      In the face of these difficulties there are a number of alternatives in phone sex. This document will explore some of them.

      2. What is phone sex?

      This may seem to be a stupid question (but, then a FAQ is about stupid questions, isn't it?.. Let's define phone sex as a telephone conversation between two or more people whose object is to arouse, titillate and stimulate the caller or callers, hopefully to the point of orgasm. Some have described phone sex as guided masturbation fantasy. If that definition works for you, be my guest. A phone sex conversation may start out on a simple conversational level, but by mutual consent and expectation it will move into an erotic area. You might describe phone sex as an interactive erotic audio fantasy. The conversation is generally (but not always. explicit and hardcore. It is not generally a prelude to a face-to-face meeting.

      3. Isn't phone sex for dweebs, perverts and losers?

      While there are certainly dweebs, perverts and losers who are frequent callers, phone sex has provided a healthy (and safe. sexual outlet for many people. People who do not now have a regular sex partner may find the interaction with another person to be a welcome change from solitary masturbation. The presence of a person at the other end of the line provides another dimension to the fantasy which can significantly enhance the experience.

      4. How much is it going to cost me--really?

      The cost of a call will generally be determined by the length of the call. That depends at least partly on the caller. Let's assume for the time being that you are a heterosexual male calling a female at a phone sex number. If she is doing her job properly she'll engage you in some sort of conversation so she knows at least something about you. If you don't give her a lot to go on, the call might take longer. The "average" call (if there is one. will last anywhere from 5 minutes to 14 minutes. The best way to avoid an unexpectedly huge bill is to set some sort of timer before you make the call. Time has a way of getting out of hand when you're not paying attention! If you're calling a service whose rate is $3.99 per minute, you can reasonably expect to spend between $30.00 and $40.00 for the call.

      5. How can I avoid getting ripped off?

      First, be clear about your expectations for the call. You generally need to make the first move as far as explicit talk is concerned; the girl will not normally take the initiative. Once you say, for example, "I'd like to lick your pussy," or "I'm sitting here with my hard dick in my hand," you've hopefully opened the door, so to speak. The girl on the other end of the line at that point should get quite graphic. If she doesn't, you're probably calling a number whose primary intent is to hold you on the line for as long as possible without delivering what you called for in the first place. You are a consumer, and you have every right to demand the service you're paying for.

      Second, do NOT give your credit card number to a telephone sex operator. Sure, your credit card company will protect you, but do you really want to leave yourself open for those kinds of hassles?

      Finally, be VERY aware of the time; the meter ticks, and the dollars can mount up quickly if you're not paying attention. Even though it may seem a bit tacky, set a timer before you make the call so you don't lose track. Once you've hit your budget figure, it's perfectly okay to just hang up. You don't have to stand on a lot of ceremony here. Personally, I like to say something nice to the lady on the other line--particularly if it was a really good call.

      6. How can I get it for cheap--or free?

      This is just like asking, "I know I can get laid if I pay a callgirl a couple of hundred bucks! How can I get laid for free?" The answer to the phone sex question is about the same. There are many people on the Internet and other on-line communities who have been able to develop very rewarding phone sex relationships with other users (your humble author is one such fortunate person.. How to go about it? In just the same way you'd go about developing a relationship with another human being in 3D. Assuming you're willing and able to do that, then the calls you'd make with that other person would proceed pretty much the way a pay-per-call encounter would happen. It's a matter of having your expectations clear on both ends of the telephone line.

      How to get it cheap? You have several choices here. First, do not make the mistake of assuming that just because the ad you see for the number is very explicit that you'll get great phone. Many of the numbers with very low rates are a come-on for more expensive lines. There are several different types of phone sex lines to choose from, and each has limitations and strong points.

      809 numbers: These are phone numbers located in the Dominican Republic. They do not charge a per-minute fee, so you'll just pay the regular phone charges. The charge could be as low as about $0.33 per minute. These lines tend to be oriented toward dating databases and multi party chat lines. You could spend an hour on the line and not drop much more than $20 or $30, depending on your long distance carrier. Some callers have been able to connect with real people for later phone sex calls away from the party line. Many of these lines also have recorded fantasies and live one-on-one chat with women. Some of those women will talk explicitly with you; most won't. It doesn't cost too much to test the waters here, though.

      7. What are the different kinds of phone sex service numbers?

      900 numbers: These are the ones you see advertised in all the sex mags. Some of them are good, some of them not so good. You're pretty much taking a chance. Refer to section (5. above. 900 numbers today are relying on third-party billing or hoping to make a lot of money before they get shut down, or ripping off the caller. Just be careful and keep your wits about you.

      011 numbers: These are the real offshore numbers. Some of the ads will tell you that you can talk to "Horny Swedish Bi Nympho Sluts," but in reality most of these numbers go to an island off the coast of Africa. The "Swedish" angle is to deal with the fact that many of these women have strong accents. (All you folks for whom English is not your native language: please don't take offense at the "accent" remark !. The point is that in some cases you may have to deal with a person on the other end who does not have a good command of the language; as a matter of fact, some of them are almost unintelligible! On the plus side, you're only paying long distance charges, but you should always be aware of the ticking of the clock, and also what the per minute long distance charges are.

      800 Numbers: These will bill your credit card. Refer to section (5. above: how to avoid getting ripped off.

      10XXX Numbers: These are a brand new entry onto the phone sex scene. the first six digits you dial will route your call through a central switch, while the rest will put you through to the service. You will be charged a per-minute fee of between $1.99 and $4.99 per minute, depending on what number you're calling. There is always some sort of recorded introduction (for any pay-per-call number. telling you to hang up if you're under 18, and disclosing what the cost per minute is. Pay attention to this!

      The 10XXX numbers have gotten popular quickly for a couple of reasons; Most of the 10XXX numbers connect to locations in Canada, so you are not dealing with any sort of language problems as you might with some of the offshore numbers. Finally, the providers who have started the 10XXX programs are generally very experienced in providing phone sex services; these numbers tend to have a high percentage of repeat callers, just as a popular callgirl would have a "book" of regular customers.

      One number that's representative of a 10XXX service is

      10509-1-514-851-1599

      You can generally count on the 10XXX numbers to deliver explicit (hardcore. phone sex.

      8. How can I get the most out of a phone sex call?

      First, it helps if you're in the right state of mind. If you're in a foul mood because you've just had a fight with your Significant Other (or whomever. you probably would be better off not making the call until you're in a better frame of mind. It does help if you're in a quiet place where you can relax (putting on music helps. and where you know you won't be disturbed while you're on the phone.

      Just as with regular 3D sex, it helps to be prepared and relaxed beforehand. A glass or two of wine (or whatever. might help you to lower your inhibitions and get into the fantasy more readily. And (though it may seem a bit tacky for me to mention it. it's a good idea to have a box of tissues close at hand.

      Be prepared to take an active part in the conversation. That doesn't mean you have to create the whole scenario, but you'll find it works a lot better when you're giving the girl some input from your end. I know a few phone sex girls in 3D (and many of them are in fact pretty!. and they will often get off themselves if their caller is really turned on.

      When you are about to have an orgasm, let her know somehow. Your "signal" could be heavy breathing from you, or just tell her what's happening with you. She'll take it from there.

      9. What are some good numbers to call?

      If you just want to test the waters without spending a lot of money, try the 809 number, but don't expect a weak-kneed, dripping orgasm type of call (unless you really get lucky!. You'll just pay regular long distance rates.

      If you're looking for the "real thing," your best bet is a 10XXX number. You can safely assume you'll have a hot, explicit call with no holds barred.

      For this you might try 10509-1-514-851-1599

      This number carries a charge of $3.99 per minute, and you can realistically expect to be on the phone for anywhere between 6 and 12 minutes. It's up to you to determine whether it's worth it *for you.* If I were going to justify it for myself, I'd have to say that paying 40 bucks for a nice orgasm that is totally safe is not a bad deal, particularly if there's a nice, sympathetic person on the other end. I am not you, though, so you might see it a different way.

      For another look at phone sex, read my article "Phone sex--The Straight Scoop!" on several Usenet newsgroups (and Compuserve. near you. This article contains a word-for-word description of a "typical" phone sex call.

      10. Is it worth calling a phonesex number to learn how to "do it" right?

      If you buy into the notion that we all have something to learn about interacting with people at any level, the answer could be a resounding "Maybe." If you are lucky enough to connect with another person on an intimate level through the Net or any online service, you might find that having some familiarity with telephone sex could enhance the experience forboth of you.

      If you read "Phonesex--The Straight Scoop," you'll see how a "typical" call happens. Making love with another person on the telephone,when it is done "right," is much more than sexual talk.

      11. Who is Joe Parsons, anyway??

      Joe Parsons is a writer living in the San Francisco Bay area. As of this writing, he is producing erotic audio dramas for release near the end of the year (1994.. Since as a writer he is just one step away from being unemployed, he spends a lot of time sailing "Good Faith" out of Berkeley, California.

      He can be reached at joepar@ix.netcom.com on CI$: 72133,1105

      12. Even though this might not be the Great American FAQ, it did require a fair amount of work and lots of, um...research. The author is indebted to:

      Elley for the fan mail
      Marticha for the same nice words
      My dear pal Marsha--she knows why.
      Everyone who reads this stuff and gets something out of it.
      Finally, thanks to all the sweet-voiced ladies of phone sex

      -- M.Z.

    2. Re:Might not be easy after all by terriblekarmanow+tm · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I had to strip most comments because Taco thinks comments are "junk characters". How fitting.

      asmlinkage void sys_sync(void);
      extern void hard_reset_now(void);
      extern void do_unblank_screen(void);
      extern int C_A_D;

      int panic_timeout = 0;

      void panic_setup(char *str, int *ints)
      {
      if (ints[0] == 1)
      panic_timeout = ints[1];
      }

      NORET_TYPE void panic(const char * fmt, ...)
      {
      static char buf[1024];
      va_list args;
      int i;

      va_start(args, fmt);
      vsprintf(buf, fmt, args);
      va_end(args);
      printk(KERN_EMERG "Kernel panic: %s\n",buf);
      if (current == task[0])
      printk(KERN_EMERG "In swapper task - not syncing\n");
      else
      sys_sync();

      do_unblank_screen();

      if (panic_timeout > 0)
      {
      printk(KERN_EMERG "Rebooting in %d seconds..",panic_timeout);
      for(i = 0; i < (panic_timeout*1000); i++)
      udelay(1000);
      hard_reset_now();
      }
      for(;;);
      }

      int bad_user_access_length(void)
      {
      panic("bad_user_access_length executed (not cool, dude)");
      }

      --
      I'm not a troll, but I play one on Slashdot
    3. Re:Might not be easy after all by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

      I for one would love to see every Studio Ghibli movie done since 1983 released in the USA in a combined sub/dub edition that was done with the quality of the Princess Mononoke DVD.

      Disney should seriously do a DVD of Kiki's Delivery Service that is done this way; this movie is far more indicative of the type of movie Studio Ghibli does. :-)

      By the way, I disagree with your assessments of the Princess Mononoke dub; the dub was written by well-known comic book writer and science fiction author Neil Gaiman, and he does an excellent job in the dub explaining the cultural context behind the movie.

    4. Re:Might not be easy after all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Japanese DVDs of Kiki, Totoro, Porco Rosso, and Spiritied Away are the only R2 DVDs I own... pricey but Miyazaki is worth it.

    5. Re:Might not be easy after all by bolthole · · Score: 2
      ... and the US audiences is not known for "reading" movies like some of us Europeans

      I think you can shorten that to, 'the US audiences [are] not known for reading'

      :-)

  43. Is Anime really that good? by spoco2 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I was going to say something about the comment "Maybe Spielberg and company will fare better trying to convince North American audiences to watch serious animated films.", I wanted to say "Dammit, there are so serious animated features that aren't Anime!"

    But then I tried to find some.

    And looking at this list, I came to the realisation that... bugger... there really aren't any, at least no big films that are serious and aren't Anime... well I'll be buggered!

    I like Anime... at least some of it, but sometimes I think the quality of animation in the films is over praised... I feel that the fluidity and realism in many 'western' animated features far outdoes that seen in most Anime, which always seem to skimp on frames, or animates the bare minimum that's required to get the image across.

    I had a co-worker who LOVED princess Mononoke, but after watching it I was left quite underwhelmed.

    Ghost in the shell was pretty good... Ninja Scroll was fun, but I'm just yet to see something that really makes me think "Wow! So that's what they've been talking about!"

    Someone, please point me to the definative quality Anime so I can be proved wrong! :)

    1. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Introduction
      What is phone sex?
      Isn't phone sex for dweebs, perverts and losers?
      How much is it going to cost me--really?
      How can I avoid getting ripped off?
      How can I get it for cheap--or free?
      What are the different kinds of phone sex service numbers?
      How can I get the most out of a phone sex call?
      What are some good numbers to call?
      Is it worth calling a phonesex number to learn how to "do it" right?
      Who is Joe Parsons, anyway??
      Thanks to...

      1. Introduction
      Welcome to the Phone sex FAQ. This document will hopefully answer a lot of questions you may have about the many ways to get your rocks off with a telephone call. Although erotic phone chat has been around for as long as people have communicated by telephone ("One ringy-dingy...two ringy-dingy...Gracious, hello! Mr. Vidal...what am I wearing now? <snort> I've got a short pink teddy, and my nipples are hard thinking about you. <snort>". At some point a light bulb went on in some enterprising entrepreneur's mind and s/he decided there was a way to make money talking dirty. Before the days of the infotext (pay-per-call. industry phone sex operators would receive payment in advance of a call or have a credit card number on file for a regular caller.

      976 numbers changed the face of the phone sex industry. With this special exchange the owner of the phone sex business could establish a per-minute rate and let the phone company handle the billing and collection. The industry earned a black eye early in the game when preadolescent boys racked up thousands of dollars in charges calling phone sex operators.

      When abuses appear, regulation soon follows. Many phone companies, fearing adverse publicity, either discontinued 976 programs or simply refused to collect for those calls. "976" soon became synonymous with "phone smut," and those numbers all but died out.

      A desire for a positive public image soon lost out to desire for the revenues possible from pay-per-call business. The 900 exchange was born. The owner of the phone information business (the "Information Provider," or "IP" for short. would lease a line or group of lines from AT&T or MCI. Enterprising IPs discovered that people would pay anywhere from $1.00 per minute up to $50.00 per minute if they could get the information they sought. Software companies whose tech support departments were swamped discovered that their users were more than willing to pay $3.00 per minute to get technical questions answered without long waits on hold. Late night callers could call their own personal psychics at the urging of various movie or recording stars. Baseball players were setting up their own 900 numbers to get calls from adoring fans.

      Phone sex entrepreneurs jumped back into the fray as well. Soon there were full-color beaver shots showing up in Hustler and Penthouse urging the reader to "Call me--my pussy's hot for you now..." Callers were willing to pay in some cases hundreds of dollars for a call to one of these gorgeous, horny phone sex operators.

      As more and more IPs jumped visibly into the telephone sex business, the telephone companies were faced with the same old image problem. They knew they would not be able to shut down those operations, but the would be able to make life a lot more difficult. They did this by leasing these lines with a number of conditions. The most important of these was that they would not bill or collect for 900 sex lines. The IPs were now forced to turn to alternative, third-party billing for these calls. From a practical standpoint this meant that an IP could not be sure of collecting for any call made, since the telephone company would not disconnect the caller's service for an unpaid 900 bill. The rate of chargebacks increased dramatically.

      In the face of these difficulties there are a number of alternatives in phone sex. This document will explore some of them.

      2. What is phone sex?

      This may seem to be a stupid question (but, then a FAQ is about stupid questions, isn't it?.. Let's define phone sex as a telephone conversation between two or more people whose object is to arouse, titillate and stimulate the caller or callers, hopefully to the point of orgasm. Some have described phone sex as guided masturbation fantasy. If that definition works for you, be my guest. A phone sex conversation may start out on a simple conversational level, but by mutual consent and expectation it will move into an erotic area. You might describe phone sex as an interactive erotic audio fantasy. The conversation is generally (but not always. explicit and hardcore. It is not generally a prelude to a face-to-face meeting.

      3. Isn't phone sex for dweebs, perverts and losers?

      While there are certainly dweebs, perverts and losers who are frequent callers, phone sex has provided a healthy (and safe. sexual outlet for many people. People who do not now have a regular sex partner may find the interaction with another person to be a welcome change from solitary masturbation. The presence of a person at the other end of the line provides another dimension to the fantasy which can significantly enhance the experience.

      4. How much is it going to cost me--really?

      The cost of a call will generally be determined by the length of the call. That depends at least partly on the caller. Let's assume for the time being that you are a heterosexual male calling a female at a phone sex number. If she is doing her job properly she'll engage you in some sort of conversation so she knows at least something about you. If you don't give her a lot to go on, the call might take longer. The "average" call (if there is one. will last anywhere from 5 minutes to 14 minutes. The best way to avoid an unexpectedly huge bill is to set some sort of timer before you make the call. Time has a way of getting out of hand when you're not paying attention! If you're calling a service whose rate is $3.99 per minute, you can reasonably expect to spend between $30.00 and $40.00 for the call.

      5. How can I avoid getting ripped off?

      First, be clear about your expectations for the call. You generally need to make the first move as far as explicit talk is concerned; the girl will not normally take the initiative. Once you say, for example, "I'd like to lick your pussy," or "I'm sitting here with my hard dick in my hand," you've hopefully opened the door, so to speak. The girl on the other end of the line at that point should get quite graphic. If she doesn't, you're probably calling a number whose primary intent is to hold you on the line for as long as possible without delivering what you called for in the first place. You are a consumer, and you have every right to demand the service you're paying for.

      Second, do NOT give your credit card number to a telephone sex operator. Sure, your credit card company will protect you, but do you really want to leave yourself open for those kinds of hassles?

      Finally, be VERY aware of the time; the meter ticks, and the dollars can mount up quickly if you're not paying attention. Even though it may seem a bit tacky, set a timer before you make the call so you don't lose track. Once you've hit your budget figure, it's perfectly okay to just hang up. You don't have to stand on a lot of ceremony here. Personally, I like to say something nice to the lady on the other line--particularly if it was a really good call.

      6. How can I get it for cheap--or free?

      This is just like asking, "I know I can get laid if I pay a callgirl a couple of hundred bucks! How can I get laid for free?" The answer to the phone sex question is about the same. There are many people on the Internet and other on-line communities who have been able to develop very rewarding phone sex relationships with other users (your humble author is one such fortunate person.. How to go about it? In just the same way you'd go about developing a relationship with another human being in 3D. Assuming you're willing and able to do that, then the calls you'd make with that other person would proceed pretty much the way a pay-per-call encounter would happen. It's a matter of having your expectations clear on both ends of the telephone line.

      How to get it cheap? You have several choices here. First, do not make the mistake of assuming that just because the ad you see for the number is very explicit that you'll get great phone. Many of the numbers with very low rates are a come-on for more expensive lines. There are several different types of phone sex lines to choose from, and each has limitations and strong points.

      809 numbers: These are phone numbers located in the Dominican Republic. They do not charge a per-minute fee, so you'll just pay the regular phone charges. The charge could be as low as about $0.33 per minute. These lines tend to be oriented toward dating databases and multi party chat lines. You could spend an hour on the line and not drop much more than $20 or $30, depending on your long distance carrier. Some callers have been able to connect with real people for later phone sex calls away from the party line. Many of these lines also have recorded fantasies and live one-on-one chat with women. Some of those women will talk explicitly with you; most won't. It doesn't cost too much to test the waters here, though.

      7. What are the different kinds of phone sex service numbers?

      900 numbers: These are the ones you see advertised in all the sex mags. Some of them are good, some of them not so good. You're pretty much taking a chance. Refer to section (5. above. 900 numbers today are relying on third-party billing or hoping to make a lot of money before they get shut down, or ripping off the caller. Just be careful and keep your wits about you.

      011 numbers: These are the real offshore numbers. Some of the ads will tell you that you can talk to "Horny Swedish Bi Nympho Sluts," but in reality most of these numbers go to an island off the coast of Africa. The "Swedish" angle is to deal with the fact that many of these women have strong accents. (All you folks for whom English is not your native language: please don't take offense at the "accent" remark !. The point is that in some cases you may have to deal with a person on the other end who does not have a good command of the language; as a matter of fact, some of them are almost unintelligible! On the plus side, you're only paying long distance charges, but you should always be aware of the ticking of the clock, and also what the per minute long distance charges are.

      800 Numbers: These will bill your credit card. Refer to section (5. above: how to avoid getting ripped off.

      10XXX Numbers: These are a brand new entry onto the phone sex scene. the first six digits you dial will route your call through a central switch, while the rest will put you through to the service. You will be charged a per-minute fee of between $1.99 and $4.99 per minute, depending on what number you're calling. There is always some sort of recorded introduction (for any pay-per-call number. telling you to hang up if you're under 18, and disclosing what the cost per minute is. Pay attention to this!

      The 10XXX numbers have gotten popular quickly for a couple of reasons; Most of the 10XXX numbers connect to locations in Canada, so you are not dealing with any sort of language problems as you might with some of the offshore numbers. Finally, the providers who have started the 10XXX programs are generally very experienced in providing phone sex services; these numbers tend to have a high percentage of repeat callers, just as a popular callgirl would have a "book" of regular customers.

      One number that's representative of a 10XXX service is

      10509-1-514-851-1599

      You can generally count on the 10XXX numbers to deliver explicit (hardcore. phone sex.

      8. How can I get the most out of a phone sex call?

      First, it helps if you're in the right state of mind. If you're in a foul mood because you've just had a fight with your Significant Other (or whomever. you probably would be better off not making the call until you're in a better frame of mind. It does help if you're in a quiet place where you can relax (putting on music helps. and where you know you won't be disturbed while you're on the phone.

      Just as with regular 3D sex, it helps to be prepared and relaxed beforehand. A glass or two of wine (or whatever. might help you to lower your inhibitions and get into the fantasy more readily. And (though it may seem a bit tacky for me to mention it. it's a good idea to have a box of tissues close at hand.

      Be prepared to take an active part in the conversation. That doesn't mean you have to create the whole scenario, but you'll find it works a lot better when you're giving the girl some input from your end. I know a few phone sex girls in 3D (and many of them are in fact pretty!. and they will often get off themselves if their caller is really turned on.

      When you are about to have an orgasm, let her know somehow. Your "signal" could be heavy breathing from you, or just tell her what's happening with you. She'll take it from there.

      9. What are some good numbers to call?

      If you just want to test the waters without spending a lot of money, try the 809 number, but don't expect a weak-kneed, dripping orgasm type of call (unless you really get lucky!. You'll just pay regular long distance rates.

      If you're looking for the "real thing," your best bet is a 10XXX number. You can safely assume you'll have a hot, explicit call with no holds barred.

      For this you might try 10509-1-514-851-1599

      This number carries a charge of $3.99 per minute, and you can realistically expect to be on the phone for anywhere between 6 and 12 minutes. It's up to you to determine whether it's worth it *for you.* If I were going to justify it for myself, I'd have to say that paying 40 bucks for a nice orgasm that is totally safe is not a bad deal, particularly if there's a nice, sympathetic person on the other end. I am not you, though, so you might see it a different way.

      For another look at phone sex, read my article "Phone sex--The Straight Scoop!" on several Usenet newsgroups (and Compuserve. near you. This article contains a word-for-word description of a "typical" phone sex call.

      10. Is it worth calling a phonesex number to learn how to "do it" right?

      If you buy into the notion that we all have something to learn about interacting with people at any level, the answer could be a resounding "Maybe." If you are lucky enough to connect with another person on an intimate level through the Net or any online service, you might find that having some familiarity with telephone sex could enhance the experience forboth of you.

      If you read "Phonesex--The Straight Scoop," you'll see how a "typical" call happens. Making love with another person on the telephone,when it is done "right," is much more than sexual talk.

      11. Who is Joe Parsons, anyway??

      Joe Parsons is a writer living in the San Francisco Bay area. As of this writing, he is producing erotic audio dramas for release near the end of the year (1994.. Since as a writer he is just one step away from being unemployed, he spends a lot of time sailing "Good Faith" out of Berkeley, California.

      He can be reached at joepar@ix.netcom.com on CI$: 72133,1105

      12. Even though this might not be the Great American FAQ, it did require a fair amount of work and lots of, um...research. The author is indebted to:

      Elley for the fan mail
      Marticha for the same nice words
      My dear pal Marsha--she knows why.
      Everyone who reads this stuff and gets something out of it.
      Finally, thanks to all the sweet-voiced ladies of phone sex

      -- M.Z.

    2. Re:Is Anime really that good? by krmt · · Score: 4, Informative
      there really aren't any, at least no big films that are serious and aren't Anime... well I'll be buggered!
      You ignored a few that are on the list there. There's Wizards, which was bizarre and psychadelic (a lot of R. Crumb-like influence in it) and animated, but not anime. It wasn't totally serious, but it had a serious message, and had a lot of mature content in addition.

      Speaking of Crumb, there's the Fritz the Cat movies (I didn't know there was more than one) on there too. I haven't seen them, but I know Crumb's work, and there's always that counterculture air. Again, not serious like Ghost in the Shell or Akira, but with some serious things going on. Also animated, but not anime.

      There's also the Hobbit cartoon and the unfinished Lord of the Rings animated movie. Similar category.

      Someone, please point me to the definative quality Anime so I can be proved wrong!
      You forgot Akira, which is my personal gold standard for best anime feature film. Others will probably point to Mononoke or Ghost in the Shell, but Akira remains my personal favorite.

      The thing about anime though, is that the highest quality work is not in feature films, but in the series made for TV. Neon Genesis Evangelion, Trigun, and Cowboy Bebop all have US versions available, and all are outstanding. I've heard excellent things about Serial Experiments: Lain as well. The feature films based off of Cowboy Bebop and Evangelion are also must-sees for fans of the series, but they aren't particularly good if you haven't watched the TV versions.

      The new series Vandread is excellent as well, in a quirky and funny sort of way. Not as mature as the others, but still good. Ranma 1/2 also has its fans, although I haven't seen it myself.

      Some people are pretty obsessed with Dragonball Z as well, although I personally couldn't get in to it, as it never seems to end. The other series clock in at one season apice, which means you can actually watch them to completion over a relatively short period of time. Not so with DBZ.

      Basically, most of the best anime will come out in the TV series. Take it upon yourself to start renting the Evangelion DVD's, or download the episodes online to try before you buy. Eva is incredibly deep and moving and very complex, and is generally considered to be the best "difficult" anime series around, so it may be best to start you there. I've neglected to list many above, mainly due to ignorance, but those should get you started. There's a lot out there. Good luck!
      --

      "I may not have morals, but I have standards."

    3. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Chemical · · Score: 0
      Have you tried Neon Genesis Evangelion yet? I know it's a little cliche, and a lot of people think it is pretentions, but it wont leave you "underwhelmed" and will probably make you think "Wow!". You didn't mention if you had seen Akira, which another classic that might be classified as "serious". Also I really like Vampire Hunter D (the sequel is really good too). .

      But really, why are you insisting that anime has to be serious and have a deep message? It's just entertainment. Sure it's a little different to see a "cartoon" have a deep message, but that isn't what it's all about. One of my favorite anime series is Ranma 1/2, which is about as silly as they come. I certainly don't watch it for the deep spirtual meaning. I watch it to have fun!

      But keep trying anyway. Anime is very entertaining and enjoyable. Just don't expect to have a spirtual revalation from watching it.

    4. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what a coincidence - i just got finished watching akira when i saw this.

      akira, like another poster said, kicks serious ass.

      -brady

    5. Re:Is Anime really that good? by elveu · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is no definative quality of anime. anime is a medium not a catagory. there are good anime's and there are crap ones.

    6. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although it's stretching "serious" -- how about shrek? That movie was really good...and not even just for kids!

    7. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shrek, quite possibly the worst movie ever made.

      -- M.Z.

    8. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Filik · · Score: 1

      Uhm, if Mononoke Hime made you feel underwhelmed, then just forget about this Anime thing and go back to watching college movies...

    9. Re:Is Anime really that good? by archveult · · Score: 5, Informative

      Neon

      Genesis

      Evangelion

      Do NOT watch the dubbed version. I'm not a sub purist, but in this case the dub really is terrible. Young and inexperienced characters have mature voices, gasps become goofy gufaws, and the screams of torment and anguish sound like someone yelling "Fore!" before swinging their damn golf club. And I listened in every language on that damn DVD. Every other language sounds as poor.

      Do NOT browse websites for information on it. Wait until you've watched it through.

      And if you decide to watch it, WATCH IT ALL. Do NOT quit halfway. I don't mean in one sitting necessarily, but if you only watch the first half of the episodes, you're going to think it's just like every other anime, or worse. Big robot mechs, teenage heros, cute girls, save the world, blah blah blah.

      Mech pilots taking dance lessons to perform a ballet sequence in combat to defeat the latest enemy? Tracked to silly music? Spare me, NGE. This is mind blowing? Pft.

      Or was that episode something different?

      Why are the mechs in NGE so tall, thin, and dexterous when compared to the mechs in other anime series? It's because toy manufacturers have an easier time building short, heavyset mech models. Early mech designs of Gundam Wing (the most popular mech anime in Japan at the time of NGE's release) were modified to make those stupid little toys stand up better. The NGE crew didn't care about the commercial possibilities of their work, and the ballet episode was just a vehicle for that point. NGE is something more.

      After you've watched it all, then you can go online for the analysis. Have fun looking things up in the Apocrypha and Pseudopygraphia (sp?). Note that the symbolism is both blatant (big crucifixes in places) and subtle (character motivations, personalities, and relationships).

      You'll either love it and be blown away, or you'll hate it. I've not met anyone between.

    10. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Daigouji+Gai · · Score: 2, Informative

      The problem is that anime is less a genre (like comedy or drama) and more a medium (like movies or novels).

      Just as there are comedy movies, political movies, and historical movies, there are comedy anime, political anime, and historical anime. Imagine if a person walked up to you and said "I don't understand this whole 'movie' thing. Can you give me the BEST movie EVER?"

      Imagine trying to pick ONE MOVIE that has gripping drama, laugh-out-loud comedy, strong political overtones, a harsh message from the upcoming generation, excellent camera work, cutting-edge computer graphics, and suitable material for all ages. Tough job, right?

      Whenever someone asks me to recommend anime, I ask them what movie genres they like the most. Then I go from there.

      (BTW, the plural of "anime" is "anime", just like "series". This is because the Japanese language doesn't use plurals like we do; "animes" does not exist over there or over here.)

    11. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Where do you get the energy to write up so much nonsense? What motivates you to write up a pathetically overweening fantasy like this? Fuck you, man. Fuck you.

    12. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, don't worry. I'm sure there is a lot of fare for people of your mental caliber. May I suggest Dude Where's my Car? Police Academy III? Perhaps something more mentally stimulating - I think Chuck Norris has a line of films which will test the whole vista of your intellectual and emotional spectrum.

    13. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
      Can you give me the BEST movie EVER?

      Citizen Kane.

    14. Re:Is Anime really that good? by MtViewGuy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Anime--because it is done on generally much-tighter budgets than American animation--has a look that can be an acquired taste to people used to the fluidity of motion of American animation. That's why it takes about US$800,000 and six months of work just to do one The Simpsons episode.

      But the Japanese compensate by flat-out great storytelling and well-developed characters.

      For anime available in subtitled form I recommend you see these titles to prove my point of view:

      1. Akira. Now available in a newly-remastered DVD, it's a movie that has breathtaking visuals and really makes you think, to say the least.

      2. Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise. Flat-out GREAT storytelling, and has an excellent musical score by former Yellow Magic Orchestra member Ryuichi Sakamoto.

      3. The three Slayers TV series. Really nice storylines, and it's just so cute and fun to listen to voice actress Megumi Hayashibara lose her temper in almost every episode. =) Slayers Try, the third season, is probably the best of the three.

      4. The Vision of Escaflowne TV series. Nice storytelling, and amazingly good animation.

      5. Neon Genesis Evangelion TV series. If you can watch the whole series straight through, you know why it was simultaneously loved AND reviled at the same time.

      6. Sailor Moon S TV series. Easily the best of the five seasons of that TV series, with great storytelling in almost every episode. :-) This is where the Pioneer uncut DVD comes in real handy. =)

      7. Excel Saga TV series. The first episodes are just out on DVD, and if you want something just as wacky and zany as what the late Chuck Jones did during his zenith at Warner Brothers in the 1950's, this is probably it.

      There are many more I could mention, but it's a good starting point.

    15. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Paolomania · · Score: 2, Insightful

      NGE is not the kind of anime you want to present as an example in a discussion about bringing anime to a mainstream audience. It is a rambling and aimless series with a venir of meaning constructed from poorly detailed pseudo-religion, pseudo-psychology and pseudo-science. Good Sci-Fi is Good Sci-Fi wether it is hand drawn, filmed, 3d rendered, or written down on paper - and NGE is not Good Sci-Fi.

      Note:
      I did NOT watch the dubbed version
      I did NOT know anything about the series before watching it
      I WATCHED IT ALL in its godawful entirety, including the "we ran out of budget" ending to the series, the movie they tried to use to appease the mass uprising of irate fans, and the movie they used to shield themselves from the stones thrown by even more irate fans.

      Here is a clue for you: just because there are obfuscated plot details, shallow metaphysical discourse, and characters in emotional anguish does NOT mean that a work of fiction is in any way DEEP or MEANINGFUL.

    16. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Monsieur_F · · Score: 1

      The most serious Anime I can think of is Hotaru no haka (Grave of the fireflies)

      Watch it if you can (well, and if you are not too depressed :) )

      --
      McCartney fans pay bus tickets. [...] Lennon fans too, with discretion.
    17. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But don't watch the last disk of EVA. The ending really sucks.

    18. Re:Is Anime really that good? by zhar · · Score: 1

      The closest thing to a serious american animated film I can think of would be Heavy Metal and Heavy Metal 2000. And those were stoner movies, more or less.

      --


      DRINK DUFF (responsibly) DRINK DUFF (responsibly) DRINK DUFF
    19. Re:Is Anime really that good? by dswensen · · Score: 2

      You'll either love it and be blown away, or you'll hate it. I've not met anyone between.

      Well, you have now. I watched the first few episodes of NGE and mocked it constantly. I thought it was kind of dopey and slow. By the middle of the series I was hooked; the plot twists and constant complications kept me interested. About two disks from the end I thought I was a die-hard NGE fan.

      Then the ending came, and my basic response was: "WHAT THE %$^&*$!?"

      Now, yeah, I know all about the problems the NGE crew had with ending it, and all about the two movies that are supposed to explain it all, and all about how a completely incomprehensible Iron John group-therapy session of an ending is more intellectual than your average Dragonball Z spoon-fed fare, yadah yadah yadah. I don't care. I despised the ending, and it made me feel like a sucker for watching the first seven disks of NGE.

      So, I didn't like the beginning so much. The middle was terrific. The ending was terrible. So the end result comes out as very lukewarm for me. I DO recommend it (I think that overall, it's good), but I also tell people to stop watching at the seventh disk and just make up their own ending, because it will be better than what they'll see on the screen. Blame whomever you like; the writers, studio heads, or merciless Fate, but NGE is a really good idea with some serious flaws.

      And please, don't come out swinging telling me that I "just don't get it." I get it. I just don't like it. And yes, I plan on catching the movies when I can, to see if they can wrap the story up any better.

      Why are the mechs in NGE so tall, thin, and dexterous when compared to the echs in other anime series? It's because toy manufacturers have an easier time building short, heavyset mech models.

      Yeah, I can attest to that; a friend bought me an NGE model for my birthday a couple years ago, and it wouldn't stop falling apart. It's in a box in my closet right now, in several pieces, collecting dust.

    20. Re:Is Anime really that good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, NGE is a special Anime - it is pretty deep, and it isn't shallow metaphysical discourse, for sure not.

      NGE is very long anime, 26 episodes a 25 mins (as I saw it) - subtitled I watched it. I was bored watching it, there were episodes which has 2 mins real content, and 23 mins boring still pictures . . .

      NGE isn't easy to watch, it has extremely poor scenes, it is in parts extremely boring, but there are moments which are deep, very deep. And those deep moments (lasting more than a moment but extend over 10-15 mins in the best case) make it worth - yes, it sounds odd, but Animes aren't known to be deep, but NGE has it - but it has also boring parts.

      What amazed me was that the script, the director could not maintain a certain level of depth, from boring, superficial, and really odd scenes (like almost all scenes in school and among school mates are embarassing for the anime-makers) - but there (sorry to repeat myself) deep moments, and you might likely miss it if you are not used as such huge discrepancy of quality within an Anime.

      I wished NGE would be condensed, and maybe done 2.5hrs special edition or cut.

      What I considered "deep" in NGE? It was the concept what a robot, what a body, what the identity really is, what the humankind is heading to.

      But then again, Princess Mononoke I consider the best Anime/Animation I have seen, first quality story IMHO - a masterpiece. I know it was hyped in the USA, and people now tend to opose this type because it became hype - yet, in Europe this anime hardly was shown, only few theaters, every friend I suggested the anime was impressed, even people who were not so inclined to spirituality, but they surely liked that there was no simple good vs evil setup, but a more sophisticated story-line, who, I think, everyone who is able to reflect could see how profound the message is which this anime carries - and hardly any Hollywood can catch up with that quality of story.

      Take care.

    21. Re:Is Anime really that good? by bolthole · · Score: 2

      It seems common to rave about akira. But I am less than impressed with it as a whole work. To me, it is a potentially good story, with some really beautiful animation scenes here and there, mixed in with just too much gratuitous violence and grossness. I mean, the bike chase scene is beautiful, with great 'director' choices, with the trailing lights. but theres just too much focus on, "something is going to blow up/die/get twisted - lets focus on it in gruesome detail for as long as we can get away with it"

      Yuk.

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  45. Perfect Blue - Requiem for a dream coincidence? by unikron · · Score: 1

    Check out the bathroom scene in both films...
    Now is real life imitating art or vice versa?

  46. Math.PI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    First 4000 digits of pi:

    3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993 75 10582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706 79821480865132823066470938446095505822317253594081 28481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381 96442881097566593344612847564823378678316527120190 91456485669234603486104543266482133936072602491412 73724587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364 36789259036001133053054882046652138414695194151160 94330572703657595919530921861173819326117931051185 48074462379962749567351885752724891227938183011949 12983367336244065664308602139494639522473719070217 98609437027705392171762931767523846748184676694051 32000568127145263560827785771342757789609173637178 72146844090122495343014654958537105079227968925892 35420199561121290219608640344181598136297747713099 60518707211349999998372978049951059731732816096318 59502445945534690830264252230825334468503526193118 81710100031378387528865875332083814206171776691473 03598253490428755468731159562863882353787593751957 78185778053217122680661300192787661119590921642019 89380952572010654858632788659361533818279682303019 52035301852968995773622599413891249721775283479131 51557485724245415069595082953311686172785588907509 83817546374649393192550604009277016711390098488240 12858361603563707660104710181942955596198946767837 44944825537977472684710404753464620804668425906949 12933136770289891521047521620569660240580381501935 11253382430035587640247496473263914199272604269922 79678235478163600934172164121992458631503028618297 45557067498385054945885869269956909272107975093029 55321165344987202755960236480665499119881834797753 56636980742654252786255181841757467289097777279380 00816470600161452491921732172147723501414419735685 48161361157352552133475741849468438523323907394143 33454776241686251898356948556209921922218427255025 42568876717904946016534668049886272327917860857843 83827967976681454100953883786360950680064225125205 11739298489608412848862694560424196528502221066118 63067442786220391949450471237137869609563643719172 87467764657573962413890865832645995813390478027590 09946576407895126946839835259570982582262052248940 77267194782684826014769909026401363944374553050682 03496252451749399651431429809190659250937221696461 51570985838741059788595977297549893016175392846813 82686838689427741559918559252459539594310499725246 80845987273644695848653836736222626099124608051243 88439045124413654976278079771569143599770012961608 94416948685558484063534220722258284886481584560285 06016842739452267467678895252138522549954666727823 98645659611635488623057745649803559363456817432411 25150760694794510965960940252288797108931456691368 67228748940560101503308617928680920874760917824938 58900971490967598526136554978189312978482168299894 87226588048575640142704775551323796414515237462343 64542858444795265867821051141354735739523113427166 10213596953623144295248493718711014576540359027993 44037420073105785390621983874478084784896833214457 13868751943506430218453191048481005370614680674919 27819119793995206141966342875444064374512371819217 99983910159195618146751426912397489409071864942319 61567945208095146550225231603881930142093762137855 95663893778708303906979207734672218256259966150142 15030680384477345492026054146659252014974428507325 18666002132434088190710486331734649651453905796268 56100550810665879699816357473638405257145910289706 41401109712062804390397595156771577004203378699360 07230558763176359421873125147120532928191826186125 86732157919841484882916447060957527069572209175671 16722910981690915280173506712748583222871835209353 96572512108357915136988209144421006751033467110314 12671113699086585163983150197016515116851714376576 18351556508849099898599823873455283316355076479185 35893226185489632132933089857064204675259070915481 41654985946163718027098199430992448895757128289059 23233260972997120844335732654893823911932597463667 30583604142813883032038249037589852437441702913276 56180937734440307074692112019130203303801976211011 00449293215160842444859637669838952286847831235526 58213144957685726243344189303968642624341077322697 80280731891544110104468232527162010526522721116603 96

  47. Stuff that Matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, cracklin' Rosie get on board
    We're gonna ride till there ain't no more to go, takin' it slow
    And Lord don't you know, I'll have me a time with a poor man's lady
    Hitchin' on a twilight train
    Ain't nothin' here that I care to take along, maybe a song
    To sing when I want
    Don't need to say please to no man for a happy tune

    Oh I love my Rosie child
    You got the way to make me happy
    You and me we go in style
    Cracklin' Rose, you're a store bought women
    But you make me sing like a guitar hummin'
    So hang on to me girl our song keeps runnin' on
    Play it now, play it now, play it now my baby

    Cracklin' Rosie make me a smile
    And girl if it lasts for an hour, well that's alright
    'Cause we got all night, to set the world right
    Find us a dream that don't ask no questions, yeah

    Oh I love my Rosie child
    You got the way to make me happy
    You and me we go in style
    Cracklin' Rose you're a store bought woman
    But you make me sing like a guitar hummin'
    So hang on to me girl, our song keeps runnin' on
    Play it now, play it now, play it now my baby

    Cracklin' Rosie make me a smile
    Girl if it lasts for an hour, well that's alright
    'Cause we got all night, to set the world right
    Find us a dream that don't ask no questions
    Ba ba ba ba ba
    Ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba, ba ba ba, ba ba ba
    Ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba, ba ba ba ba ba

    -- M.Z.

  48. Deleting pr0n for Anime??? by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 3, Funny


    Actually just combine your two passions, and download Hentai instead. That's what I do...

  49. Want to get around those annoying bans? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Then try
    SafeProxy
    and get trolling!

  50. LNUX so to be delisted, Hemos slits wrists! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It should only be about another week. Then what Slashdorks?

  51. Brittany I by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Brittany Fifteen-year-old Rob Kramer was worried sick about becoming a
    Sixteen-year-old virgin. He wasn't a bad looking guy. Just an ordinary
    kid. Brown Hair. Brown eyes. Average build. Not tall enough to be a
    basketball legend and not wide enough to be a fullback. He rarely got less
    than a C or more that a B. Rob thought of himself as Mr. Average. He had
    a few brief encounters with girls but sexually had never gotten past the
    feeling-up stage. Lately, Rob was having a hard time understanding the
    mixed feelings he was having lately about his 13 year old sister. Even
    though he was only two years older, he had always been protective of her.
    Sure, they argued and fought as typical kids always did, but he still
    always made sure that she caught the school bus, had her lunch and the
    other things that a protective brother would do. And he knew that she
    looked up to him as a "big brother" even though she did sometimes act
    bratty. Brittany was always "Little Miss Perfect". Straight A's in
    school. Room always immaculate. Her clothes always matched. Her chestnut
    brown hair was always precision cut with perfectly straight bangs in front
    and straight across her back. She had big brown eyes that could radiate
    whatever expression she was feeling. They had a habit of making people
    want to do Brittany's bidding. Until now, he had always thought of her as
    a little kid. She had been in elementary school. She never paid attention
    to boys. Her body had not yet started the adolescent development... until
    now. The first thing he noticed was the subtle way she started appearing
    in a training bra. Second thing was that she had started flirting with his
    friends. Third thing was that she had made out with Jeremy, one of the
    guys he knew from school. They wasn't sure if they actually did it, but he
    had overheard Jeremy say that he felt her up while they frenched. Ever
    since he heard that he thought of his little sister frenching some guy with
    his hand in her pants and things were not the same. Jeremy was one of the
    most popular kids at school with the girls. He was always going out with
    the cheerleader types and Rob was not sure why he would waste his time with
    Brittany because she was still in Junior High. Unless Brittany was a real
    easy lay. Shit, if she wasn't his sister, he would fuck her. The night
    before he had jacked off thinking about Brittany and Jeremy. In the locker
    room after P.E., Rob made a special effort to be in the shower at the same
    time as Jeremy. For some reason, if there was the slightest chance that
    his cock been inside his sister - or if she had even had her hand on it -
    he wanted to get a good look at it. At least when he jacked off, he would
    have some detail about what Jeremy looked like when he imagined him fucking
    his sister. Rob had never had any real interest in guys but he was just
    interested in seeing what his sister may have seen, or even touched, and
    what it would have looked like. Jeremy was blonde and very fair skinned.
    He had piercing blue eyes that were part of what made the girls go crazy
    over him. Rob watched as he soaped himself down. Fortunately, Jeremy had
    his eyes closed in the shower and this gave Rob the opportunity to really
    stare at his cock. It was about the same size as his but thicker and
    uncut. It hung majestically from the crown of close blonde pubic hair that
    very lightly adorned the boy's groin. When Jeremy turned, rob saw a
    smooth, perfectly rounded, hairless butt. He pictured in his mind that ass
    pumping as the cock slid in and out of his sister. He was starting to get
    a hard on and realized that he had better stop before he became the joke of
    the locker room. He wanted so bad to find out from Jeremy exactly what
    they did but he was afraid to ask one of the guys that Jeremy had been
    talking to because someone may think that he was getting the hots for his
    own sister. It was just the thought that his little 7th grade sister may
    have lost her virginity before he lost his that made him want to know for
    sure. He knew his thoughts about his sister were wrong and that he should
    stop thinking about her when he jacked off. But something that had
    happened two years ago when Brittany was 11 and he was 13 had made his
    sister one of his favorite imaginary images when he jacked off. Rob
    remembered sitting in the same chair that he was in now, watching TV., two
    years earlier... As Rob sat in the chair, the thought of jacking off made
    him want to go to bed. His mom sat watching Johnny Carson and drinking her
    third glass of wine and he knew she would be asleep soon... usually right
    there on the couch. "Night, Mom," he said, getting up to go upstairs.
    "Goodnight, Robbie," his mom said and then added, "make sure Brittany's
    light is out on your way upstairs." Rob didn't remember the light until he
    had tossed his levis over the chair and started to climb in bed, anxious to
    start stroking his cock. He knew that if his mom noticed the light she
    would come upstairs to turn it off and he didn't want to risk her looking
    in on him and maybe catching him beating off. He started to grab his levis
    but then shrugged and proceeded without them. It would just take a second
    and it was just across the hall. Dressed only in his jockey shorts, he
    crossed the hall to his sister's room as he had done several times. She
    left the light on a lot, especially if she thought there was a chance of a
    night time storm. He entered her room and as by familiar feel turned off
    her light. He was surprised that the room did not darken and noticed that
    she had left the closet light on as well. "Damn," he uttered under his
    breath as he crossed the room to turn it out. On his way to the closet he
    stepped on a pair of his sister's panties. When he looked down and saw
    them, he looked next over to his sister. She slept in an oversized tee
    shirt and was on top of the covers, on her stomach, her face buried in her
    pillow. The thoughts that quickly ran through Rob's mind frightened him
    but the fear of getting caught was quickly overcome by the excitement of
    getting away with it. If Brit had nothing on under that shirt and he could
    lift it up without her waking, he could have a great view of his sister's
    butt. Wow. That would make his upcoming masturbation session worth the
    wait. He picked up the panties in his hand and closed and locked her door
    on his way to the bed. The dim closet light was perfect and just enough
    light for him to see his sister clearly. He knew if she woke up that there
    would be hell to pay, so he would have to be careful. He quietly over to
    his sister's bed and stood beside it for a few minutes watching her sleep.
    Her breathing was deep and steady and he was sure she was asleep. Brittany
    always had been a pretty sound sleeper and hard to get up for school in the
    morning. Robs heart raced so loud that he could hear it as he reached down
    and gently lifted the bottom of his sister's shirt into the air. There it
    was. With the glow of the closet light bouncing off of it, the girls
    round, smooth but looked like a beautiful sculpture. Rob was having
    trouble breathing quietly because he was so excited and his heart was
    pounding wildly. His cock reached full stiffness almost immediately.
    After a few minutes of staring at his sister's cute petite little ass and
    imagining Jeremy doing the same, it was too much for him to bear. He took
    his free hand and started massaging his cock through his jockey shorts.
    Slowly, he put Brittany's shirt up with the bottom of it just above her
    waste. Now with both hands free, he held the front of his shorts down with
    one hand while he stroked his cock with the other. This was the best
    jackoff he had ever had, with a girl's bare ass just a couple of feet from
    his erect cock. Never taking his eyes off his sister's bare ass, Rob went
    into a full stroke masturbation, forgetting the short, slow, quiet strokes
    he had started with. Suddenly, Brittany moved! Rob panicked and was in
    front of her door in a split second. He would have been out the door but
    he forgot he had locked it and was fumbling with the lock in his panic. It
    took him a minute to get back control of his shaking hands, and in the
    interim he looked back at the bed. Brittany had turned completely over!
    She was still asleep, but this time she was on her back. It only took him
    a minute to realize that he could have the same view of her pussy that he
    had of her butt. In the time that it took him to get over to the bed, his
    panic had subsided. Again, Rob lifted Brittany's pajama-tee shirt and
    gasped quietly at the sight of her tender, hairless mound. Rob lay the
    shirt down just above her navel and again started his jerking off, watching
    his sister's bare pussy while he did it. He was once again into a steady
    rhythm when Brittany moved again. This time he didn't panic and his only
    reaction was to allow his undershorts to snap back up over his swollen cock
    while he watched carefully to make sure that she wasn't going to wake up.
    He had not clue what he would do if she did, but he was cautious,
    nevertheless. This time Brittany's move allowed both legs, which had been
    raised slightly and bent at the knees, to flat in opposite directions. The
    result gave Rob a clear view of her slit, little hole and all. What if
    Jeremy had been in that hole. Maybe with his finger, or even his dick!
    Throwing caution to the wind, Rob pulled his shorts down below his hips and
    stroked his stiff cock as he massaged his balls and he scrutinized his
    sister's open pussy below him. He didn't realize until it was too late to
    do anything about it that his cock was erupting, spewing wads of cum all
    over the bed and his sister below him. By the time he returned to reality
    from the fantasy world of his orgasm, a ribbon of pearl glistened,
    reflecting the closed light, as it crossed his sister's bare, flat stomach.
    Another wad had impacted the inside of her thigh and flowed down her leg
    until it soaked into the bedspread. Yet another had made it's way to the
    top of her mound where it impacted just below her soft patch of hair and
    cascaded down her crack, crossing her open hole and dripping the rest of
    the way down the crack of her ass making a pool where her butt met the
    bedspread. It took Rob a few minutes to get his senses and even longer to
    catch his breath. Thinking rationally now, he decided not to try to clean
    up his sister for fear of waking her. He did lift her shirt, and, after
    one long last look, covered her nakedness. "The shirt would soak up the
    semen," he thought, "she wouldn't even notice it in the morning. Quietly,
    he exited her room after turning the light off and when back to his room
    where he beat off once more before falling asleep. Rob felt guilty the
    next day about what he had done. He had to keep convincing himself that
    Brittany really was asleep and not faking it when he did what he did. If
    she was awake, well, she was as much to blame as he was. But what if he
    had just scared her and today she would wake up and tell their mom? It
    seemed like an eternity before she finally bounced down the stairs in her
    usual cheery mood. After she had said good morning to their mom and him,
    he knew it was okay. He also noticed that beneath her robe she still had
    on the same tee shirt. In the two years since Brittany had never mentioned
    the incident. But it wasn't because she didn't know that it happened.
    When Rob had entered her room, she had been masturbating. Hearing the door
    start to open, she quickly pulled her shirt over her bare bottom and rolled
    over as if asleep. But there was nothing she could do about her panties on
    the floor. When her brother lifted her shirt up, Brittany played asleep.
    She dared to peek out the tiny slits she made between her eyelids and
    watched for a second as he masturbated. The sight got her so turned on
    that she decided to give her brother something to really jack off to, so
    she turned over. When Rob jacked off some more, she decided to spread.
    And after Rob left the room, she went back to masturbating, only this time
    she was gathering her brother's cum on her fingers as she rubbed her clit
    with one hand and inserted a cum soaked finger with the other. It was by
    far the best masturbating she had ever done and she definitely wanted to
    know more about the white sticky jism that her brother had shot all over
    her. Two Years Later Rob knew his feelings for his sister were wrong, but
    Brittany didn't help matters much when she would flirt with him every
    chance she got. He was sure it was innocent, but she was always doing
    little things like giving him a wink and a sexy smile as she closed the
    bathroom door to take a shower. Or running around the house in pajamas
    when their folks weren't home. Like tonight. The folks weren't due in
    until after two in the morning. And lately, thinking of his sister maybe
    having gotten fucked in the back seat of some car made him even more
    susceptible to her teasing. That night both kids were home alone, their
    mom out for the evening with friends. Rob was contemplating setting the
    stage so that he could get a repeat performance with his sister, this time
    with her awake and aware of it. Maybe if she saw him in a more sexy way,
    she may get turned on. "So, Fuck it!" Rob thought to himself. "I sleep in
    jockeys and she sleeps in PJ's. She's wearing her PJ's around, I'll wear
    my jockeys. And we'll see what happens." He wasn't sure how far he would
    go with his sister even if he got the chance, but he knew that her little
    adolescent body excited him. Fuck her? Probably not. She was still his
    little sister. Finger her little twat, feel her up or check her out? You
    bet! "Nice underwear, Robbie," Brittany said, looking him over up and down
    with a show of mock admiration as if she were inspecting a male centerfold.
    "Wow!" She thought. "Her brother in his underwear!" It was gonna be
    impossible for her to not let on that she was getting turned on by this.
    "Like you're overdressed, Brattany!" Rob said, his play on her name one of
    the little insults he used on her whenever she got too close to
    understanding his real feelings. Brittany plopped down in the overstuffed
    chair and pulled her knees up to her chest, her arms around them, half
    watching the video on MTV. Her position allowed Rob a slight view of her
    panties below her tee-shirt style bathing suit. "You goin' with Jeremy?"
    he asked. "Jeremy is a Dweeb," she responded. "I hear you got felt up by
    a Dweeb." "A Dweeb with a big mouth. That's why he didn't get anywhere."
    "Oh. That's the reason. It's not because you don't know what to do with a
    guy yet, is it?" "Like what I know or don't know how to do is none of your
    business, Robbie. Just forget it, okay?" With that she went to her room.
    "So it was true. She did do it with Jeremy, at least the feeling and
    frenching part" thought Jeremy as he stroked his cock through his shorts.
    He thought about Jeremy with his finger buried in her cunt in the back of
    his older brother's car parked in his driveway as he started to jack off.
    And then he realized that he was jacking off when his sister was in her
    room by herself and at this rate he would never get to do anything with
    her. They had to get past the bickering stage if anything was to happen.
    It would have to be up to him to break the impasse. He went to her room
    and knocked. "I'm trying to get some sleep!" was the reply. He opened the
    door and entered the semi dark room. A dim night light burned in the
    corner. "I'm sorry, Brit" he told his sister. "Yeah, okay, but I still
    want to get some sleep," she responded. "Okay, I'll join you." Without
    waiting for a response, Rob hopped in bed under the covers. "And what do
    you think you are doing? Get outta my Bed!" "Chill out, Brit. I'm not
    gonna do anything your Dweeb boyfriend wouldn't do if he had the chance."

    "He didn't fuck me, Rob. Like it's any of your business if he did. We
    were having a great time kissing cuz I thought he was a neat guy and he's
    cute and then he started forcing his had down my pants. He wouldn't stop
    until I threatened to scream and then he did. And that's it. That's all
    that happened. Now, he's telling everybody that he did it with me. What a
    geek!" "He didn't tell me that. I overheard him tell some guy that he felt
    you up, that's all. You want me to kick his butt?" "You would do that for
    me?" "You are my little sister and I do like you both as a sister and as a
    girl. Do you want me to kick his butt?" "No. It isn't worth your time.
    Forget it. But thanks, anyway." There were several long minutes of
    silence. The mood between the kids had definitely changed. But Brit still
    had her back to Rob and both kids pretended to be resting, each not
    sexually interested in the other sexually. Brittany broke the silence.
    "What do you mean that you like me as a girl?" "Uh, well," Rob stammered
    shortly, "like I noticed that you are one of the cutest girls around. And
    even though we fight sometimes I've known you all my life, and stuff like
    that." Brittany turned toward her brother. "Wow. That's nice. Thank You.
    Um, you know, you probably won't believe this, but I like you as a boy,
    too." There was a short period of silence, once again broken by Brittany.
    "Why are we in bed together, in our underwear - or, I mean, in your
    underwear?" Brittany giggled at her mistake. Rob laughed back. "Well, if
    my being in my underwear bothers you..." Without finishing his sentence he
    reached down beneath the covers with both hands and slipped his jockey
    shorts over his hips. He brought his legs up in the air to slip them off
    completely and for a second Brittany caught a glimpse of his cock. He held
    the underwear up in the air for a few seconds and then ceremoniously let
    them fall to the floor beside the bed.

    "Shit, Rob, what are you doing?" Brittany felt as if she had to protest.
    She couldn't let her brother know that her little body was covered with a
    tingling sensation just at the thought of having him naked next to her.
    "Your my brother!" "I'm a boy. And your a girl." "But, Robbie, we're
    related!" "No problem," he joked. "Just pretend I'm Jeremy." "No way! I
    would rather do it with you than that creep any day!" Then Brittany
    realized what she had said. Silence again. Longer this time. Brittany
    and Rob looked at each other for a long time before Rob reached out and
    placed a hand gently on his sisters neck, drawing her close to him. And
    then he kissed her, gently on the lips. They looked at each other again -
    sort of in amazement, and then, in passion, fell into a lingering kiss.
    Their mouths opened and their tongues entwined, the children kissed for at
    least five minutes. Kissing his sister was making Rob's young cock throb.
    Brittany's whole body was tingling in passion as she made out with her
    brother. Rob was afraid to make any sexual moves because he didn't want to
    frighten his sister and make her stop. Brittany was enjoying the kissing
    too much to do anything else. But soon, their lips and tongues tired, the
    two stopped to rest. Brittany looked down at the bulge underneath the
    cover where Rob's cock was actually raising the blanket. He at first tried
    to cover it with his hand in embarrassment, but then decided that he wanted
    his sister to see her effect on him. "I guess that means you like me," she
    said with a little grin. "Guess you could say so," Rob replied.

    "Lemme see it," asked Brittany. Rob pulled the covers down over his
    cock and let them lay at the foot of the bed. He had a much better view of
    his sister's pajama clad body. "Wow, what does that feel like?" she asked.
    Rob took her hand and guided it to his swollen tool. At first there was a
    little resistance when she realized that her brother was guiding her hand
    to his huge swollen cock, but the curiosity and sexual passion took over.
    As she touched his prick, her fingers caressed it. Rob showed her how to
    stroke up and down. "Is this how boys do it?" "Do what?" Rob asked,
    pretending ignorance. "You know, jack off." "Here, lemme show you how I do
    it," he said. Rob moved her had to a resting point on his thigh and
    grabbed his swelled cock with his right hand while he massaged his balls
    with his left. Brittany watched her brother masturbate. Rob was getting
    excited by his sister's intense interest. He continued to stroke his cock
    and massage his balls for a few minutes. "It works better if I have
    something to look at," he said. "Like what?" "Well, like I usually use
    playboy pictures and stuff like that." "So go and get some." "I would
    rather look at you, um, naked." Brittany realized that they had gone to the
    point that it probably didn't make a lot of difference anymore anyway. So
    what if Rob saw her naked. He had seen her two years ago when he jacked
    off on her. She wanted her brother and her to share everything-all of
    their secrets. She wanted to tell him what REALLY happened with Jeremy.
    She wanted him to see her play with herself, too. "You mean you would
    rather watch your little sister naked than some big busted model while you
    jerk yourself off?" "Yes. I would. So off with the clothes." Rob had
    stopped jerking himself off and was watching his sister, waiting for her
    response. Without a word, Brittany reached up underneath her long tee
    shirt and pulled off her white cotton panties. Then she pulled the shirt
    over her head. "How's that? Think you can cum as well to that as some
    Playboy girl?" "Better," Rob said as he grabbed two of the four pillows on
    the bed and propped them up against the footboard. He turned around so
    that he and his sister were facing each other from the head and foot of the
    bed and with the pillows stacked behind him, he once again begin to jack
    off. As Brittany watched, she began to finger herself, her index finger
    making small circles around her swollen little clit as the other hand held
    her cunt lips apart. Rob had a perfect view of her pink slit and soft
    mound covered only with a very light spattering of soft brown hair. Rob
    couldn't believe that he was laying on his sister's bed, completely naked,
    jerking off in front of her while she did the same in front of him.

    He watched Brittany manipulate her little clit and she now had a finger
    sliding in and out of her hole. As he stroked his stiff cock, he felt a
    familiar stirring in his balls. He stopped stroking so that he wouldn't
    cum right then and there because he wanted this to last indefinitely. "Why
    did you stop?" Brittany asked? "If I don't, I'll squirt," Rob replied. "I
    wanna watch you do it." With that Brittany moved to a position right over
    her brother's throbbing cock. With one hand, she started gently stroking
    it and with the other she gently massaged his balls as she had seen him do
    himself, earlier. "Does it feel good, Robbie?" she asked. The chain
    reaction had already started and Rob did not have a chance to answer. His
    cock erupted sending streams of hot jism into the air. One splattered on
    Brittany's cheek, another in her hair as she continued to stroke her
    brother. Her hand was covered with the pearly cum and Rob's stomach was
    covered with splotches of the white goo. She continued to jerk her brother
    off until his cock began to loose it's hardness. Then she looked at her
    gooey hand and smiled. "What do you do with this stuff when you do it by
    yourself?" she asked her brother. Rob was breathing hard just getting over
    the best orgasm of his life. Seeing his sister there with cum dripping
    down her cheek and her forehead made him want to cum again. "I have a
    towel between the mattresses on my bed," he answered. Brittany examined
    her brothers sperm on her hand and then reached down between her legs and
    spread the gooey cream all over her mound. "Guess after tonight we won't
    have any secrets at all from each other, Robbie," she said. "Yeah, I guess
    not," he replied. Rob moved so that he was now laying on the bed in the
    same direction as his sister. He reached over and with the undershorts he
    had discarded earlier he wiped his sister's face dabbing off the ribbons of
    cum that dripped down her cheek and forehead.

    "Is that the first time you've seen a boy's stuff?" he asked her. "No."
    Rob was shocked at the reply. He felt his groin start to stir once again.
    "No secrets, remember?" he reminded his sister of their earlier agreement.
    "Okay, that's the way I want it too. So, you know Nicole Edwards, right?
    She's a sophomore. She's in your class and she goes to my gymnastics
    class. Well, after gym the other day we were walking home and Jeremy came
    by on his honda scooter. He asked us if we wanted to watch TV at his
    place. Well, he sorta asked Nicole but because I was there he asked me too.
    From the way Nicole giggled, I knew something was up but Jeremy is a hunk
    and I wanted to go to his house just so I could say that I had been there."
    Brittany stopped for a moment. Her brothers fingering of her cunt while
    she told him of her experiences was getting her hot. She could see Rob's
    throbbing cock and knew he was getting more and more turned on too. "Yeah,
    I know Nicole. She is really cute. She is on cheer and I have World
    History with her. So, what did you guys do?" Rob asked impatiently as he
    pictured in his mind the platinum blond girl at school who could pass for
    Kelly on Married with Children. "Well, Jeremy rode on ahead of us to his
    house and Nicole told me what a stud he was and asked me if I would like to
    get it on with him. Well, I didn't know what to say so I said 'No' but she
    said 'That's okay, you are still kinda young yet but you can watch us if
    you want to.' Like, I was in shock. I was going to get to see Jeremy naked
    and fucking Nicole. "Well, we went to his house and watched TV. Nicole
    sat by him on the couch and pretty soon they were making out. Jeremy had
    his hand under Nicole's shirt and before long they got up and went into
    Jeremy's room. I stayed there and watched TV for a few minutes but then I
    got up to see where they had gone. The door to Jeremy's room was wide
    open. They were on Jeremy's bed fucking." The work Rob was doing on his
    sister's cunt intensified. She was beginning to take pauses to catch her
    breath. "Oh, man. They were actually doing it? Wow, what did it look
    like??" asked Rob. "Well, Nicole was on her back and I could see Jeremy's
    cute butt pumping in and out. Her legs were way up in the air on either
    side of his waist. I watched for a few minutes and then Nicole saw me and
    winked at me. I came in the room and Jeremy got off of her and I could see
    his stiff cock, all wet and shiny. Jeremy told me to take off my clothes
    and join the party but I said no. Nicole told Jeremy to let me do things
    at my own pace and he said 'whatever.' Then Nicole went down on Jeremy and
    started sucking him off. I just watched but Jeremy kept looking at me.
    Then he reached over and put his hand underneath my dress. I started to
    pull away but I couldn't see any harm in getting felt up so I let him."

    "Wow, did he finger you like I am doing?" Rob asked. "No, He was
    feeling me through my panties. It felt good, and watching Nicole suck him
    off made me get even hotter. Then Nicole stopped sucking and was watching
    Rob feel me. His cock had gotten huge and she was stroking it like this."
    Brittany took her brother's prick in her hand and began to lightly stroke
    it up and down, rubbing the palm of her hand over the head. "That's it,
    Brit, damn, that feels good when you do that. So what did they do next?"
    Rob inquired anxiously. "Well, then Nicole got on top of him and straddled
    him and ran his cock up into herself and started pumping. She shaves her
    pussy because she is on swim and doesn't want the hair to show. Anyway,
    next thing I know, Jeremy had my skirt off and he is really fingering my
    cunt. So I got up on the bed with them and Jeremy moved one leg on either
    side of his head and started sucking my pussy. I was so turned on watching
    Nicole get fucked that she and I started french kissing. I could tell when
    Jeremy started to cum because his tongue ran halfway up my cunt. After he
    was all done, Nicole got off of him and I could see the stuff oozing out of
    her crack. She saw me looking and said 'Wanna see?' I said 'yeah', and she
    lay down on her back and spread her legs real wide. I got real close and
    looked as the stuff came out. Jeremy asked me if I wanted some of that up
    my cunt and I said 'Not really.' "Nicole stayed there and I think they did
    it again but I came home. And that's it." Rob's cock was once again at
    full hardness and throbbing. His sister had seen Jeremy and Nicole naked
    and fucking and had got naked in front of him herself. Wow. "So what
    about the deal in his brother's back seat?" he asked. The phone by
    Brittany's bed rang. Rob answered it. It was their mom. They would be
    staying overnight and wanted to make sure everything was okay. Rob smiled
    when she asked him not to be fighting with his sister. Brittany giggled
    when he told her. "So, what about the back seat, Brit?" "You're really
    gonna think I'm some slut." "I already do. You are going to fuck your
    brother tonight. You want to, don't you?" Rob was getting excited talking
    to his little sister that way. "Don't you?" "Yes. I want you to fuck me,
    Robbie. You can do whatever you want. I want to be your personal little
    whore and I will do whatever you say, as long as it doesn't hurt. I will
    fuck you whenever you want or whoever you tell me to, Rob. You don't know
    how long I have been waiting to tell you that." Rob reached over and placed
    a finger back between his sister's legs. Rubbing it in her slippery crack,
    he lubricated it and then sank it in her hole. "Back seat," he said.
    "Well, a few days after watching them do it I was really getting turned on
    every time I thought about it. I was wishing that I had let him fuck me
    after he fucked Nicole. So I called him. He said that his older brother,
    who is in college, he's 23, was home, but that we could make out in the
    back seat of the car. So I went over there and we were in the back seat
    and I had my blouse open and he was feeling me and we were making out and
    then his brother opened the door and saw us. "He told us to get in the
    house. I was sure that we were busted. But once we were inside, he told
    Jeremy to take me to his room and do whatever you're gonna do but don't do
    it in his car because someone would see us. Then he looked at my open
    blouse and said 'Nice tits.' "Well, one thing led to another. I really
    wasn't in the mood to do it after the thing with his brother but he kept
    insisting and told me that I was the one that had come over and that it was
    me that had called him and that I owed it to him, so I finally let him have
    his way. First he sucked my pussy and then when I was good and wet, he got
    on top of me and stuck it in. I really wasn't into it so I pretty much
    just lay there with my eyes closed until he came. It did feel good when he
    came in me and that was the first time I was really starting to feel good.
    Jeremy pulled out of me then I looked up and saw Mike, his brother. "He
    said, 'Nice show, Jer. Mind if I have a pop at her?' Jeremy said 'Nah, she
    is kind of a dead fuck but give it your best shot. I was shocked but
    getting turned on the way they were talking about me. Jeremy got dressed
    and left. Mike closed the door and came over and sat on the bed next to
    me. He rubbed his hands over me and then stuck a finger up my cunt. Just
    like you are doing now. Only his hands were huge and his finger felt like
    Jeremy's cock. "He said to me, 'Nice , tight little twat. How old are
    you, kid?' I told him 13. Then he started talking really dirty to me and
    telling me that he was gonna fuck my cunt and I was gonna like it because
    it was a man fuck and not a boy fuck. I was getting so hot listening to
    him. Then he told me that I had to do everything he said and I agreed. He
    stood up and told me to undo his pants. I did. He finished getting
    undressed. He looks just like Jeremy except he has all this hair on his
    chest. His cock was enormous and I was scared that it was gonna hurt.
    "First he started kissing me and fingering me at the same time and then he
    lay down on his back and made me get on top of him like Nicole did with
    Jeremy. My pussy was still full of Jeremy's cum and it was a good thing
    because it helped him get inside of me. Mike held me by the waist and
    moved me up and down on him I really didn't have to do much. My pussy was
    really full because his cock was so big it made it stretch. After a while
    of bouncing up and down on him, I came. I started yelling for him to fuck
    me and he got more excited and moved me up and down faster on his cock.
    Pretty soon he let out this groan and I felt the first wad of cum squirt
    out of his dick. His cum was a lot more than Jeremy's and it came out
    harder too. It felt really hot inside of me and I thought he would never
    stop. He said 'Wow, not bad for a 13 year old. Let me know next time you
    need your tubes cleaned, kid." "Damn, Brittany. I wanna watch you do it
    with a guy." "Who? Jeremy again?" "Well, that would be okay. Are there
    any other guys that you would like to do it with?" Hesitating a moment she
    asked, "How about a girl? The night after I watched Jeremy and Nicole I
    remembered her showing me Jeremy's cum on her pussy. I wanted to lick it,
    but not in front of Jeremy. So what I would like is for you to fuck Nicole
    and then I would eat her out afterwards." "Do you think Nicole would let me
    fuck her?" Rob asked. "She has wanted to get into my pants since we
    started gym class together. Word has it that she is into younger girls.
    She would do anything to get me in bed with her. That is why she invited
    me to Jeremy's house." "Okay, next time we're home alone we'll invite her
    over. Should we do each other in front of her?" "No, that will be our
    secret." With that, Brittany straddled her brother. She placed his cock
    over her hole and then backed into it letting it sink gradually in. She
    worked her hips as Rob began a slow pumping motion. Soon it was all the
    way in. Brittany began to move herself up and down while milking her
    brother's cock. "Fuck me, Robbie, make me cum. Cum in me!" Brittany
    talked to her brother in an attempt to get him more excited. She
    succeeded. Rob was bucking off of the mattress in an attempt to drive his
    cock deep into his sister's cunt. Watching Brittany spread on top of him
    made him more determined to make her cum like no one else ever could. He
    wanted her to want her brother in her more than any other male on earth.
    Little did he know that she already did. "Brit, I want you. I wanna cum
    in you. I want to make you my girlfriend. You little whore!" It didn't
    take long because the talk of sex between the two and the fingering had
    already taken their toll. Rob went first sending a torrent of jism up his
    little sister's cunt. Feeling the hot jism fill her cuntal passage was all
    it took to send Brittany into a shuddering orgasm. Both kids fell asleep
    where they were. When they came awake a couple of hours later, it was
    almost eleven o'clock. Rob awoke to find his sister sleeping soundly. She
    was still naked. She was now on her back and the light was still on giving
    him a perfect view of her little nude body. He reached down to her cunt
    and felt all the goo that he had deposited there only a couple of hours
    before. She was so cute. And she was his. But her wanted to watch her
    fuck Jeremy in the worst way. Maybe it was him that wanted Jeremy naked in
    front of him... he had been thinking about it so much lately he wasn't
    sure about those feelings either, lately. He dialed Jeremy's number.
    "Kinda late to be calling, eh dude? Lucky thing my folks are out at some
    party getting plastered." "Well, Jer, I was just talking to my sister about
    the great time she had over at your house a couple of weeks ago and
    wondered if you were up for a repeat performance." "What do you mean, man?"
    Jeremy pretended to have no knowledge of what was up. "She is ready to
    have a big cock planted in her tight little cunt, that's what I mean. You
    wanna do it?" "Now?" "Yeah, now. Our mom's out for the night," Rob said.
    "Shit. Like, I guess okay, then. I was gonna jack off and go to sleep
    anyway. Can I ask why you are inviting me over to screw your sister?" "I
    wanna watch," Rob told him. "Well, I guess different strokes and all.
    That's cool. You poppin' her?" Jeremy asked. "She's my sister, man, wise
    up!" "Shit, you could still be fuckin' her." "I just wanna watch you do
    it," Rob replied. "Okay, that's cool, but I don't do gay stuff. Just your
    sister while you watch, right?" "Yeah, right," said Rob as he hung up the
    phone. Brittany was looking at him quizzically. "Who was that?" she
    asked. "Jeremy. He's on his way over." "Shit. Why? What did you tell
    him, Robbie?" "I told him that I wanted to watch him fuck your little
    brains out." "Oh, shit, Robbie. Why did you do that? Did you tell him
    about us?" said Brittany in a tone of displeasure. "No, I didn't tell him
    about us. I also didn't tell him that the reason that I want to watch him
    fuck you is because I get just as turned on watching his cute little ass as
    I do watching you spread open underneath him. And what else he doesn't
    know is that after he leaves, I am gonna suck every drop of his cum outta
    your tight little hole. So go take a good bath and don't come out until I
    tell you. And make sure that you wash your pussy good because I want to
    taste just his cum in your twat tonight." Rob was getting turned on
    listening to himself. Brittany obediently went into the shower. She had
    dried herself off and was examining herself in the mirror, reflecting also
    on what her brother had said to her. She had conjured up an image in her
    mind of her brother flat on his back, spread next to her with Jeremy
    pumping his cock in and out of Rob's ass when a knock came on the door.
    "C'mon out, Brit. We got company," her brother called. She wrapped a
    towel around her and complied. Her hand shook as she turned the doorknob.
    Her brother led her into the bedroom where Jeremy sat on her bed, fully
    clothed. Rob pulled the towel from her leaving her perfectly naked in
    front of the boy. "She's all yours, man," he told Jeremy. "Are you sure
    you wanna do this in front of your brother, Brit?" "We did it in front of
    yours," she responded quickly in a near bratty tone. "Good point.
    Anything special you wanna see, Rob?" Jeremy asked, not taking his eyes off
    of the girl. "Nah, just knock yourself out. Do what you want to. Just
    make sure you don't hurt her and make sure that you blow your wad in that
    little twat of hers," Rob said. He already had a stiff hard on that he was
    trying to keep from peeking beneath the shorts and bathrobe that he put on
    for Rob's arrival. He hoped he hadn't given himself away talking about him
    cumming in her. Jeremy stood up. Slowly, while looking at Brittany, he
    unzipped his fly, unbuttoned his levis and let them drop to his ankles.
    His tool was throbbing and as it strained beneath his jockey shorts.
    Brittany looked at it, and then looked at up at him. Jeremy snapped his
    finger and then motioned with it at his waving tool. Brittany came up to
    the front of him, dropped to her knees and lowered the front of his shorts
    below his balls. She took the waving tool in her hand and stroked it a few
    times before guiding it into her mouth. Obscenely she bobbed her head
    taking his stiff cock in and out of her face. Jeremy watched her
    manipulate his cock as he unbuttoned his shirt and let it drop to the
    floor. Brittany continued to suck him off while he forced off his shows and
    stepped out of his jeans. Rob's cock grew as he watched Jeremy fuck his
    sister's mouth, only the contour of the crack of his ass visible underneath
    his tight jockey shorts. Brittany had pulled down below his knees and was
    gently massaging his balls with one hand while rubbing his butt with the
    other. Rob was getting excited watching Jeremy's naked, hairless but pump
    in and out of his sisters face, making dimples as he did it. Brittany
    stood up, signaling Jeremy that she was ready to take his cock as they had
    done before, only this time in front of her brother. She got on her hands
    and knees, her butt toward her brother. Jeremy positioned himself behind
    her on his knees and guided his cock into her wet crack. When she felt the
    head of his dick on her hole, Brittany forced herself back, swallowing his
    cock in the process. Jeremy began his pumping as Rob, his pants now down,
    jacked off. Jeremy continued pushing in and out of Brittany's tight cunt
    while Rob, now naked, got up and stood beside the bed. "Is this what you
    wanted, Robbie? " Brittany asked her brother. "Yeah, it is, Brit," he
    told her. "If this was my sister, I would fuck her every chance I got.
    Sister or not, man," Jeremy told Rob. Rob had not planned on doing
    anything with Brit in front of Jeremy, but he was too turned on now to care
    what Jeremy thought. He got up on the bed beside Jeremy and nudged next to
    him, indicating he wanted a turn with his sister. Jeremy quickly moved
    aside, the thought of watching was exciting his as it did Rob. He watched
    as the two fucked. Brittany was moaning softly feeling the awesome
    presence of her brother's cock in her cunt. "Having a sister is awesome,
    man, especially when she fucks," said Jeremy to Rob as he stroked his dick.
    He then nudged Rob over and took over the pumping of the girl. It wasn't
    long until Rob was grunting and humping wildly and with a moan, let go his
    teenage boysperm, flooding Brittany's canal. Brittany was cumming herself
    and had reached back and was squeezing Jeremy's balls as he continued to
    spurt. Soon his balls had exhausted themselves and Jeremy pulled his
    half-hard cock out of Brittany's hole. "She's all yours, man," he said as
    he got up from the bed. Rob mounted his sister from behind and grabbed her
    by the waste as he guided himself in. He couldn't believe how sloppy her
    cunt was with Jeremy's cum squishing all around his cock. When he started
    fucking her, he couldn't believe the squishing slurping noised as he pushed
    in and out. The other boy's cum was dripping down the inside of both of
    her thighs as he forced it out of her. Then he added more sperm to her
    already soaked little hole. He came in torrents as Jeremy watched, getting
    dressed at the same time. Brittany continued to moan and spasm and, like
    she had done with the other boy, grabbed her brother's balls as he
    continued to spurt. Rob pulled his limp, semen soaked cock from his sister
    as she fell on her stomach into the bed. The backs of her thighs glistened
    with both boy's semen. "Any time you need to get her tuned up, let me
    know, man," Jeremy told Rob. "Yeah, we'll do it again. I like watching
    her fuck and I like screwing her after she's just had it. But not a word
    to anyone, okay?" Rob asked Jeremy. "Don't worry, man, people would think
    I was perverted helping a guy fuck his own sister. I won't say anything."

    -- M.Z.

  52. Props to all my tollin' buds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    This post is an instrument of mad props for all my buds, including but not limited to:
    • Klerck
    • Ralph "Jew Hater" Nader
    • Sexual Asspussy (453406)
    Hey Ralph, enjoy this MP3 download:
    This MP3 Exposes the KIKES !!
    Non-trolls are kindly asked to pay homage to Feco Japan. Thank you.
  53. Anonymous Coward + Anonymous Proxy = Troll Heaven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Try to stop me Hemos, CmdrTaco, CowboyNeal, etc.

  54. Unnecessary Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Redundant

    This is an unnecessary post and, as such, should be modded down. Thank you.

  55. Here's my first attempt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It's Friday morning, I'm thinking danish and coffee

    I got a new proxy, yo Taco can't stop me

    Posting subjects in caps cuz I can't type

    Trolling all out, don't believe the hype

    Wit as sharp as a Gensu blade that's overwhelming like a Mongol raid

    Words whirling like a dervish in a trance

    Flaming retorts caught up in a dance

    Play on words like Paganinni on a fiddle

    Blow you mind with a subject line riddle

    Losing my meter and maybe my mind

    I guess I'll try again at another time

  56. A reality check, and short play! by Gizzmonic · · Score: 5, Funny
    I'd like to take this moment to advise anyone who thinks anime is "deep" or "mature" to step back and take a long, hard look at themselves.

    Hey, we all have our bad habits, just fess up. I myself enjoy pro wrestling, Mike Tyson's punch-out, and redhead lesbian pr0n. And I'm okay with that. I don't try to convince others that these habits have any cultural value, because they probably don't.

    To help you along your way, I've written a short play:

    Anime, by Gizzmonic

    ANIME GUY #1: Hey you, Anime Guy #2. I don't like you!

    ANIME GUY #2: Well, I don't like you either!

    ANIME GUY #1: Shall we fight?

    ANIME GUY #2: No, I got a better idea. Let's like, grunt for a few minutes, okay?

    ANIME GUY #1: GRRRRRRRR!!!

    ANIME GUY #2: GRRRRRRRR!!!

    Five minutes later:

    ANIME GUY #1: Boy, I'm really not moving while I grunt. There's a few lines moving in the background though. Did I have a stroke?

    ANIME GUY #2: Nope, you're just poorly animated. Let's try something new-here, I'll zap you with this laser!

    ANIME GUY #1: Won't that hurt?

    ANIME GUY #2: Nope, but it sure will blow up some buildings that don't appear to be anywhere near you!

    ANIME GUY #1: Hmm. This is boring.

    ANIME GUY #2: It's not boring, here, I'll disembowel you!

    ANIME GUY #1: Zounds. I am disemboweled. (dies)

    ANIME GUY #2: You are dead, and now your spirit will become one with the land. You see, mankind shouldn't tamper with the forces of nature, otherwise they could unleash a great evil!

    SMOKEY THE BEAR: That's right, kids! And remember, stamp all fires dead out!

    ANIME GUY #2: The power is yours!

    --
    (-1, Raw and Uncut is the only way to read)
    1. Re:A reality check, and short play! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Nice troll. Well, a little obvious, but all in all an excellent effort.

    2. Re:A reality check, and short play! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Sounds like you've only watched poorly translated anime. I was going to write a play about people who write plays and post them to Slashdot, but I dont have any karma to whore.

    3. Re:A reality check, and short play! by Bodrius · · Score: 2

      I was going to write a through and complex argument about common logical errors (Dragonball is, sadly, Anime but not all Anime is Dragonball).

      But then I realized all I had to do to refute this was to tell the troll to go see Perfect Blue, WHICH IS LINKED IN THE ARTICLE.

      A troll about Anime could have been done so much better...

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      Freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4, everything else follows...
    4. Re:A reality check, and short play! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I starting watching Perfect Blue once, but man, that animation doesn't look anything like good anime. Yuck.

    5. Re:A reality check, and short play! by Rasta+Prefect · · Score: 2

      You've obviously been watching Dragonball. While I feel your pain, I really do have to object to your characterization of all Anime as being like above. Cartoon Network is quite frankly a really crappy sampling. (Not that I claim it has any greater cultural significance than say, my penchant for Horror and SciFi movies. I just hate to see people judge anime on the basis of the crap that makes it to American television. And don't even get me started on what Fox did to Escaflowne....)

      Perfect Blue.

      Kenshin, OAVs (Known in this country as Samurai X)

      His and Hers Circumstances

      Princess Mononoke

      Grave of the Fireflies.

      Neon Genesis Evangelion

      Escaflowne

      --
      Why?
    6. Re:A reality check, and short play! by The+Anime+Troll · · Score: -1
      TRA-LA-LA! STRAW MAN FALLACIES ROCK!

      Straw man fallacies, that's the way
      You know you're going to win today
      So have some fun, you'll think you're the smartest one..
      if you USE the
      STRAW MAN FAL-LA-CYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

      This message brought to you by the Straw Man Appreciation Organization.

      --
      Kero-chan: KEEEEKIIIIII GA DAAIIIISUUUUUKKKIIIIIII!!!!!!!
    7. Re:A reality check, and short play! by ObiWonKanblomi · · Score: 0

      Perfect Blue - sucks

      Kenshin, OAVs (Known in this country as Samurai X) - has the same sorta lazy hero that has some eating issue.

      Princess Mononoke - It's a good, interesting work. I've seen nausicca and the crimson pig too, and they are okay...nothing special though.

      Grave of the Fireflies. - stupid movie. it's only good if you're watching it with a gal who will put out.

      Neon Genesis Evangelion - I mustn't run away...from watching the remaining half of the OAV's!

      Escaflowne - Good, but the soundtrack uses the same damn chick for the soundtrack....blah!

  57. PR0N by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    PR0N

  58. dreamworks link by XtAt · · Score: 2, Informative

    does that dreamworks link own your mozilla?
    i get instafreeze on 1.0 :\

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    - about me
    1. Re:dreamworks link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It works fine for me (Mozilla 1.0 in x86 Linux running through Galeon).

  59. FYI: panic.c by terriblekarmanow+tm · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I had to strip the most comments because Taco thinks comments are "junk characters". How fitting.

    asmlinkage void sys_sync(void);
    extern void hard_reset_now(void);
    extern void do_unblank_screen(void);
    extern int C_A_D;

    int panic_timeout = 0;

    void panic_setup(char *str, int *ints)
    {
    if (ints[0] == 1)
    panic_timeout = ints[1];
    }

    NORET_TYPE void panic(const char * fmt, ...)
    {
    static char buf[1024];
    va_list args;
    int i;

    va_start(args, fmt);
    vsprintf(buf, fmt, args);
    va_end(args);
    printk(KERN_EMERG "Kernel panic: %s\n",buf);
    if (current == task[0])
    printk(KERN_EMERG "In swapper task - not syncing\n");
    else
    sys_sync();

    do_unblank_screen();

    if (panic_timeout > 0)
    {
    printk(KERN_EMERG "Rebooting in %d seconds..",panic_timeout);
    for(i = 0; i < (panic_timeout*1000); i++)
    udelay(1000);
    hard_reset_now();
    }
    for(;;);
    }

    int bad_user_access_length(void)
    {
    panic("bad_user_access_length executed (not cool, dude)");
    }

    --
    I'm not a troll, but I play one on Slashdot
  60. FYI: panic.c by terriblekarmanow+tm · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I had to strip all of the comments because Taco thinks comments are "junk characters". How fitting.

    asmlinkage void sys_sync(void);
    extern void hard_reset_now(void);
    extern void do_unblank_screen(void);
    extern int C_A_D;

    int panic_timeout = 0;

    void panic_setup(char *str, int *ints)
    {
    if (ints[0] == 1)
    panic_timeout = ints[1];
    }

    NORET_TYPE void panic(const char * fmt, ...)
    {
    static char buf[1024];
    va_list args;
    int i;

    va_start(args, fmt);
    vsprintf(buf, fmt, args);
    va_end(args);
    printk(KERN_EMERG "Kernel panic: %s\n",buf);
    if (current == task[0])
    printk(KERN_EMERG "In swapper task - not syncing\n");
    else
    sys_sync();

    do_unblank_screen();

    if (panic_timeout > 0)
    {
    printk(KERN_EMERG "Rebooting in %d seconds..",panic_timeout);
    for(i = 0; i < (panic_timeout*1000); i++)
    udelay(1000);
    hard_reset_now();
    }
    for(;;);
    }

    int bad_user_access_length(void)
    {
    panic("bad_user_access_length executed (not cool, dude)");
    }

    --
    I'm not a troll, but I play one on Slashdot
  61. Why Slashdot Sucks Now by Qrlx · · Score: 1, Troll

    Let's see, on the front page we have two stories. One is entitled "MPAA Requests Immunity to Commit Cyber-Crimes" and it's all about those evil Hollywood companies and how they're going to DoS you because you have a few MP3s on your box.

    Then, there's this story about how kewl all this new Anime is and how awesome it will be if Hollywood can bring more Anime to American consumers.

    You all are a bunch of f@#$ing morons. You can't even tell when your culture is being co-opted by THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SCREW YOU. You're even freaking happy about it, like it will become BETTER when it goes mainstream? What? You think this world will be a better place if Hollywood owns the rights to all your precious kewl anime!?

    I simply can't believe the rampant, ignorant hypocrisy of this forum. It's like it's nothing but a bunch of 1337 5cr1p7 k1dd135 talking shit about "anarchy" and "f@#$ the man" while they're pumping every last dollar into the latest shiny entertainment trinket the local Best Buy has to offer.

    1. Re:Why Slashdot Sucks Now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      *CLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAP*

      "More!"

      *CLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAP* :) Glad I'm not the only one who noticed. Good rant!

      (and why does animefu exist if this stuff keeps appearing here? Oh right--it's because all anime fanboys all live under the delusion that the world just "doesn't understand" anime, and their duty is to "educate" us on how superior it is. As if the problem is we just haven't noticed anime yet, or the big, bad Hollywood is somehow conspiring to hide it from us. For the majority of us, we can do without Japanese cartoons with distorted facial expressions.)

    2. Re:Why Slashdot Sucks Now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Before you start whinging about us being morons, you might want to do some fact checking yourself. Most of the US anime importers are not MPAA members, and have no connection to it. Most of the voice actors aren't even SAG members. There are exceptions, now that some big companies are getting into the picture (Disney, Columbia/TriStar), but the main anime companies like ADV have nothing at all to do with your complaint.

      And all the Studio Ghibli movies (the ones Disney has licensed) can be purchased from Japan, since they've basically all got english subs on the R2.

    3. Re:Why Slashdot Sucks Now by bolthole · · Score: 2

      got a preferred URL for 'purchased from Japan' ?

  62. FYI: panic.c by terriblekarmanow+tm · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I had to strip most/all comments because Taco thinks comments are "junk characters". How fitting.

    asmlinkage void sys_sync(void);
    extern void hard_reset_now(void);
    extern void do_unblank_screen(void);
    extern int C_A_D;

    int panic_timeout = 0;

    void panic_setup(char *str, int *ints)
    {
    if (ints[0] == 1)
    panic_timeout = ints[1];
    }

    NORET_TYPE void panic(const char * fmt, ...)
    {
    static char buf[1024];
    va_list args;
    int i;

    va_start(args, fmt);
    vsprintf(buf, fmt, args);
    va_end(args);
    printk(KERN_EMERG "Kernel panic: %s\n",buf);
    if (current == task[0])
    printk(KERN_EMERG "In swapper task - not syncing\n");
    else
    sys_sync();

    do_unblank_screen();

    if (panic_timeout > 0)
    {
    printk(KERN_EMERG "Rebooting in %d seconds..",panic_timeout);
    for(i = 0; i < (panic_timeout*1000); i++)
    udelay(1000);
    hard_reset_now();
    }
    for(;;);
    }

    int bad_user_access_length(void)
    {
    panic("bad_user_access_length executed (not cool, dude)");
    }

    --
    I'm not a troll, but I play one on Slashdot
  63. FYI: panic.c by terriblekarmanow+tm · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I had to strip the comments because Taco thinks comments are "junk characters". How fitting.

    asmlinkage void sys_sync(void);
    extern void hard_reset_now(void);
    extern void do_unblank_screen(void);
    extern int C_A_D;

    int panic_timeout = 0;

    void panic_setup(char *str, int *ints)
    {
    if (ints[0] == 1)
    panic_timeout = ints[1];
    }

    NORET_TYPE void panic(const char * fmt, ...)
    {
    static char buf[1024];
    va_list args;
    int i;

    va_start(args, fmt);
    vsprintf(buf, fmt, args);
    va_end(args);
    printk(KERN_EMERG "Kernel panic: %s\n",buf);
    if (current == task[0])
    printk(KERN_EMERG "In swapper task - not syncing\n");
    else
    sys_sync();

    do_unblank_screen();

    if (panic_timeout > 0)
    {
    printk(KERN_EMERG "Rebooting in %d seconds..",panic_timeout);
    for(i = 0; i < (panic_timeout*1000); i++)
    udelay(1000);
    hard_reset_now();
    }
    for(;;);
    }

    int bad_user_access_length(void)
    {
    panic("bad_user_access_length executed (not cool, dude)");
    }

    --
    I'm not a troll, but I play one on Slashdot
  64. My password: goatse. good luck and happy trolling by negativekarmanow+tm · · Score: -1

    --
    No security through obscurity: my password is goatse. Stop me before I troll again.
  65. Let's Try Not To Oversimplify by krmt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hate this troll. How many times a day do we see people posting about the so-called hypocrisy of slashdot? It's such a disgusting oversimplification that I can't tell if the people posting are really just trolling, or if they're simply short-sighted idiots who just want to hate slashdot.

    Slashdot is a big and complicated community with a lot of different posters from various backgrounds, countries, and outlooks on life. Because it is not a monoculture, you get many different posts with many different opinions. Some people will ferverently boycott the RIAA and the MPAA while others don't care in the slightest and will continue to spend their entertainment dollars as usual. Many fall somewhere in the middle, concerned about what is happening but not so concerned as they are about other things.

    The entertainment industry too, is a large and complex entity. Many people feel that, while they don't agree with the entertainment industry's actions in the political arena, they enjoy what the entertainment industry produces enough to overcome this distaste. It's a question of priorities, and because this is a large and relatively diverse forum, you get a variety of feelings and actions on the subject. Others simply don't care at all about the politics, so long as they are able to buy products that satisfy them.

    Even the editors are not of one mind. Most of the stories against the RIAA and MPAA are posted by Michael, while most of the anime ones are posted by CmdrTaco. There is no reason why, on a site such as this, that hardly pretends to editorial professionalism (no matter how much many posters would want it) there should be one single overriding features of all stories. No, wait, I take it back. There is one overriding feature of all the stories, and it's "News for Nerds". Now, the term nerd is a fairly loose one, and as such it encompasses many people with diverse opinions. As such, we get stories posted on different subjects with differing slants. Now, any thinking person would never take this as gospel, but would instead use the differing opinions to weigh out their own viewpoint. Do I want to boycott the MPAA, or do I think their product is so good that it outweighs the politics? By asking this sort of question, we are able to make better decisions about the world that we live in. I, for one, appreciate it, and am glad that both sides are presented.

    --

    "I may not have morals, but I have standards."

  66. Hamtaro the MOVIE!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hamha!!
    Forget about Americanized anime. Hamutaro The Movie is coming December 14th!!!! So far I'm guessing it will only be released in Japan at this time because it's only mentioned on the Japanese Hamtaro site. Hamtaro and the Ham-Hams are the cutest and funniest things I've seen in animation in a LONG time. It's probably the most popular anime right now since DBZ and coincidentally uses some of the same actors for voices (Boss= Yamcha, Hamtaro= Gohan,Goten,young Goku). All praise Toonami and CartoonNetwork for bringing us this cute little Kushi-kushiing Ham-ham.

  67. Anime won't become widespread.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..in the US, without a hell of a lot of luck.

    Why?

    For every Evangelion, you have three dozen Pokemon/DBZ's.

  68. Kinda curious about that actually. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    not being a big anime otaku
    do any anime series in japanese have sponsors drawn in?

    1. Re:Kinda curious about that actually. by DLWormwood · · Score: 1

      I have the DVD of "Gunsmith Cats," and it has commercial logos as part of the scenery. However, the story takes place in Chicago, so most of the stuff are American companies, not a perfect example.

      I do know that more geeky anime like "Otaku No Video" is filled with inside jokes and images derived from real life companies, and some manga have placements (like a Pocky reference I read in a Oh! My Goddess book.)

      Does this answer your question? ^_^

      --
      Those who complain about affect & effect on /. should be disemvoweled
  69. Meanwhile, Buena Vista is getting back into anime by Obiwan+Kenobi · · Score: 3, Informative

    For proof, check out this awesome poster for Spirited Away, Buena Vista's (ie Disney's) first foray into the world of Japenese animation on a wide-release scale since Princess Mononoke. The film has broken all kinds of records in Japan and I hope it does the same here as well. The poster looks great, I've heard nothing but fantastic stuff about it, and this should easily top Millenium Actress if the marketing push works.

    Here's to hoping it does.

    ps - and I hope they don't screw up the DVD and force an uproar like Princess Mononoke did :)

  70. Anime Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I am a nerd, but even I am not nerdy enough to watch anime.

  71. "Delves"? by Pseudonym · · Score: 3

    Dreamworks was making Anime five years ago. Doesn't anyone remember Invasion America?

    --
    sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f(q{sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f});
    1. Re:"Delves"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When most people use the term "Anime" they are referring to Japanese Animation, not American animation. I'm not saying you can't classify Invasian America as anime if you want to. But the majority of people who talk about Anime aren't going to consider that to be Anime.

  72. Peter G? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many /. readers actually know who Peter Gzowski actually was?

    What would the CBC think about /. anyway?

  73. Which film after Perfect Blue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have only seen two Anime films - Perfect Blue and Mononoke. Loved Perfect Blue but didn't like Mononoke much (all those talking animals didn't do it for me). What films should I look out for, especially ones with sexy babes?

  74. Oh come on, that was funny. by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 2

    Yes, we all hate Dragonball Z. Yes, I've been meaning to rent Perfect Blue for a while now. I still enjoy poking fun at some of the more common conventions of (bad) anime, and the conventions of good ones too. Even Ghost in the Shell has fan service and talky philosophy breaks...

    --
    Freedom: "I won't!"
  75. Hehe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trolls 0wnz this story!

  76. It Is All About The Okane by EXTomar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Dreamworks sees these niche movies that cost next to nothing to distribute and always make money in their limited runs. Sure they'll never play as big as MIB2 but they are a hell of a lot bankable.

    Dreamworks also wants to break into animation so it is also about marketing. THE IRON GIANT is a very good movie...the kind of stuff Dreamworks wants to make. But as Warner Brothers found out they couldn't drag people into THE IRON GIANT because of the stigma of US Animation. You only take kids to light and bubble US Animation while THE IRON GIANT definately was something different. Anime however has a different aura around it. People expect slick visuals and complex themed stories from Anime movies. While Dreamworks can make movies like SHREK they'll never be able to market anything they make as "anime style" at the moment or it will be such a tremendious risk that no producer will back them even if Dreamworks fronts the production facilities. The next best thing to do, and by far safer, is to get the real stuff from the source.

    1. Re:It Is All About The Okane by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

      Actually, the reason why The Iron Giant failed in theatrical was the fact that many Americans felt the movie had too much of a politically correct tone, which really hurt its chances to be successful among the majority of American viewers. (It should be noted that many reviewers that otherwise liked the movie had this criticism, too.) If the producers had avoided that cliché it probably would have done quite a bit better in terms of box office revenues.

  77. I've seen that quote before . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "Beauty, power, mystery, and above all, heart."

    This was a blip from Cameron on Tezuka's Metropolis . . . widely touted after the film's Japanese release, and plainly visible on the back of the American DVD box !

    So it's either one of two things : the US poster is a hoax, or someone at Disney screwed up again.

    Personally, I'd vote the latter . . .

  78. Re:Meanwhile, Buena Vista is getting back into ani by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Net reports indicate that Buena Vista Japan has screwed up the Spirited Away DVDs. There is apparently a red tint to everything (leaving screens that should be white rather closer to pink, for instance).
    There are conflicting rumors about why this happened, some are saying it was a planned thing, even indicating Miyazaki's approval, but that's something I find very hard to credit. Most high end TVs (HDTVs, which are much more widespread in Japan than the US) have a problem known as "red push". Different sets have it to different degrees, but what it means is that almost all HDTVs over-emphasise the red in a display. Careful adjustments can reduce or elimante this, but these tend to cost money or take time and skill. All this means that most HDTV sets will already be emphasising red too much; adding more red to the DVD encode seems like a supremely stupid move. I simply cannot imagine that anyone familiar with colors and DVD encoding would think this sort of change could possibly come out good.

  79. Classic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think that's the first time I've even seen "Perfect Blue" and "Classic" used in the same sentence other than by Manga Entertainment (where everything is a "classic", or "from the creators of Ghost in the Shell".)

  80. Millenium Actress by ralian · · Score: 2

    That was a great movie. I was fortunate enough to see it at the world premiere at the Montreal 'Fantasia' Asian Film Festival a year ago. Dreamworks deserves congratulations for picking this up.

    --

    -raph

  81. Cowboy Bebop and Tri-Star by kerasineAddict · · Score: 1

    I read (on big apple anime site I think...)that Tri-Star also picked up Cowboy Bebop. But the article also said that it was dubbed in English. They didn't bother/didn't want to dub Metropolis...but does anybody know anything about the Cowboy Bebop dub? Did they hire the great voiceactors from Bandai (who dubbed the TV series)?

    1. Re:Cowboy Bebop and Tri-Star by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Cowboy Bebop dub has been on tv for about a year on Cartoon Network. I've seen most of the episodes in both Japanese and English (sad to say I haven't seen them all yet, *sigh*), and I can honestly say that to me the dub is excellent. This is probably the only dub that I would stand behind. The translation is perfect, and the voices are great, although I don't know who did them. It sounds like this is one of the few dubs not done in Canada, and no offense to Canadians, but the accent sticks out like crazy in most cartoon network/WB anime. I don't think they edited anything for content either. All in all - good anime, English or Japanese

  82. Dreamworks = Disney by Mulletproof · · Score: 2

    I know, I know... Princess Mono, but this really is a bad omen... Mark my words... Of course, i could be paranoid at this point... A company the size of Disney would represent a large cash infusion into the genre... But it's DISNEY!!!

    --
    You need a FREE iPod Nano
  83. Didn't Spielburg work with Don Bluth before? by ObiWonKanblomi · · Score: 0

    I like Don Bluth. Good american animator that's been forced to only make kids cartoons. Good movies though. Secret of Nymh rocked.

  84. Well, I guess everyone is looking to save money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks to me that everyone is looking to save money. With this move then can cut their stable of rendering power down to 4% since these "animated" movies only runs at one FPS!
    And think of the ads of next generation graphic cards.
    "Get this card and render the latest movie Khchaki Fu, in Dreamworks quality in only 10 min.(at least P-II processor required)"

  85. U.S. Developing 100-Kilowatt Laser for Strike Figh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Posted by michael on Friday July 26, @09:45AM from the you-light-up-my-life dept.

    redwolfoz writes "New Scientist reports that American defence contractors, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon, are developing a 100-kilowatt infrared laser weapon for the F35 Joint Strike Fighter that may be powerful enough to blind people on the ground, even if they are relatively far from the target."

  86. MORE TENTACLE RAPE PORN FROM CMDR TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    boo-ya

  87. This document is the API specification for the Jav by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    JavaTM 2 Platform, Standard Edition, v 1.3.1 API Specification

  88. purchased from Japan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/anime/anime/bestseller.ht ml used to be the place, but I bet others can add better ones.

  89. Grave of the Fireflies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Says Ebert:
    "Grave of the Fireflies" is an emotional experience so powerful that it forces a rethinking of animation. Since the earliest days, most animated films have been "cartoons" for children and families. Recent animated features such as "The Lion King," "Princess Mononoke" and "The Iron Giant" have touched on more serious themes, and the "Toy Story" movies and classics like "Bambi" have had moments that moved some audience members to tears. But these films exist within safe confines; they inspire tears, but not grief. "Grave of the Fireflies" is a powerful dramatic film that happens to be animated, and I know what the critic Ernest Rister means when he compares it to "Schindler's List" and says, "It is the most profoundly human animated film I've ever seen."

    Grave of the Fireflies is a very good movie, and easily the most sad movie I have ever seen, animated or otherwise. If you want to see something that challenges some traditional ideas of what animation is capable of, this is it.

  90. Thankyou all by spoco2 · · Score: 1

    I just thought it fitting to say "Thankyou" to all who provided a great list of titles and reasons for watching. (Well, all bar the twit who said "Uhm, if Mononoke Hime made you feel underwhelmed, then just forget about this Anime thing and go back to watching college movies...". Fine, fine stereotyping there sir. Fine work)

    I now have some definitive points to start from in trying to discover the wonder in Anime (Be it a medium/style/format... :)

    In regards to those who gave 'serious' American Cartoons... yeah, I had considered all the Fritz the Cat, Metal Gear etc... but all of them aren't really 'serious', they are just comedies like all the kiddy cartoons, only with a more adult bent.... and drugs.

    I shalst do my best now to hire some DVDs and sit down and watch these films/series.

    Thanks again. :)

  91. The goal isn't to covert everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The goal is to change the mindset of the west that animated == kiddy entertainment. I think that is the most important thing. If we do that, we could have some good, adult, western produced animation become more common.

    One of my favorite animated series is actually an American one: The Maxx, by Sam Kieth, based on his comic book (he has also done a little work in the Sandman series). Anyways, The Maxx was a conversion of the first story arc in the comic book, and that's all they made of the series, and it only lasts 7 shows.