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Smart Mobs, Swarms, and Flash Crowds

PizzaFace writes "Personal communication devices always allowed people to communicate easily and to coordinate their plans at the spur of the moment. As PCDs became widespread, they allowed their owners to converge rapidly in large groups, for purposes social or political. Now something else is happening. Ubiquitous PCDs give each owner multiple simultaneous opportunities for communication or convergence. People surf their PCD network from one conversation to another, and physically surf the most promising of the gatherings to which the network invites them. Their web of social contacts is as broad as the globe and as shallow as a cell phone's keystroke. What happens when people become nodes on a network? Joel Garreau reports provocatively in the Washington Post. His sample is skewed by Washington's summer influx of interns, who come from around the country to work for little or no pay in part because they're chasing 'peak experiences,' and who have lots of disposable time and energy, no local roots or tethers, and an unusually large network of like-wired acquaintances." I think the conventional (and most descriptive) term for this behavior is flash crowd.

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  1. The revolution will not be televised.. by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 3, Funny

    but aslong as you have SMS itll be ok!

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  2. Found my calling! (Pun optional) by jsonmez · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's it that confirms it. I am going to be a phone mercenary. Me and my swarm can get there and leave before the police arrive, and we know when they are coming and where they are. Don't like your boss? Need your wife removed? Someone steal your stapler for the last time? Message me.

    1. Re:Found my calling! (Pun optional) by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 2

      Someone steal your stapler for the last time?

      Oh, just just go buy another. No biggie. Now get back down to Storage Room B.

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      I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
  3. Flash Crowd by dmarien · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Twenty years later the term passed into common use on the Internet to describe exponential spikes in website or server usage when one passes a certain threshold of popular interest "

    Flash Crowd == Slashdot Effect.

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    1. Re:Flash Crowd by capt.Hij · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Former Philippine president Joseph Estrada, accused of massive corruption, was driven out of power two years ago by smart mobs who swarmed to demonstrations, alerted by their cell phones, gathering in no time. "It's like pizza delivery," Alex Magno, a political science professor at the University of the Philippines, told The Post at the time. "You can get a rally in 30 minutes -- delivered to you."

      Actually the flash crowd is much more effective. It seems that they actually do things other than look at web pages. For all of the calls for action that I hear here on slashdot it doesn't seem that much actually happens. Seems we have something to learn!

    2. Re:Flash Crowd by markmoss · · Score: 3, Funny

      Exponential" means something - it does not just mean "high acceleration" as the author of that quote seems to think.

      But most people don't know what an exponent is. Heck, they've probably never had a _teacher_ that understood exponential growth.

    3. Re:Flash Crowd by Rahga · · Score: 2

      Flash-in-the-pan crowd ;) ?

    4. Re:Flash Crowd by HiThere · · Score: 2

      You need a denser concentration geographically than Slashdot has to get that kind of effect. Besides, the Slashdot effect is more diffuse in time due to the time lag after posting and the time lage before the post fades into limbo.

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    5. Re:Flash Crowd by Milalwi · · Score: 2

      "Exponential" means something - it does not just mean "high acceleration" as the author of that quote seems to think.
      True. But "Quantum" doesn't mean "large" or "giant" either, but that's what it means in popular usage these days. Look at the way writers use the term " a quantum leap".

      Milalwi
    6. Re:Flash Crowd by sydneyfong · · Score: 3, Funny

      The Flashdot Effect.

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  4. Becoming one organism by Neuronerd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I guess my humanities friends that always told me that culture is about to turn us into a giant meta-organism are right after all. Interesting that it took plenty of technology to get there and surprisingly little "humanities" moderation.
    But then they say that a meta-organism has been what we were all along.

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  5. The insects are all that is left by milo_Gwalthny · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It has happened. We have become ants.

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    1. Re:The insects are all that is left by milo_Gwalthny · · Score: 2

      Did you read the article? The main point wasn't organization, it was collective, emergent behaviour. For example, Prince William being mobbed by young ladies as he visits a pub, or the military abandoning command and control in favor of a statistical type of attack (ie. change the point totals assigned to target and it will probably attract more fire, depending on what decisions individuals make). This is exactly the opposite of organization in the way you mean it: the ability of the few to represent the diffuse will of many to defeat a much larger enemy through careful planning and intelligent execution.

      I don't think Microsoft will be beaten by our unthinking, uncoordinated action. If you want something else to prevail, I think you need someone to coordinate the action.

      As to "the dictatorship from Washington DC to Geneva", I really think you should read the article. It wasn't about that.

      As an aside, I was surprised it was modded as insightful also, I intended it as humorous.

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  6. Betting and tips by Captain+Kirk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You see this swarming at the track all the time. The thing that gets me is the way people at the track get their tips on the mobile phone and you can see the bookies odds simply collapse on the latest 'favorite.' Makes it clear that you are either 'im' or 'out' and if you are not 'in' don't bet!

  7. I guess I'm behind the times... by hyacinthus · · Score: 2

    ...because I've never seen the term PCD or "personal communication device" before. Of course I went straight to Google and punched it in to see what I could find, and found mostly press releases from various manufacturers and dealers in electronics. PCD isn't just a fancy acronym for "cellular phone", is it? Or does it imply some features on top of ordinary telephony, like a half-duplex "radio" feature, or the ability to send alphanumeric messages (like in that f**king stupid ad during the Olympics where a sleeping skier's buddies all silently agree to push him off the lift? I wasn't amused--packed snow isn't soft, and you could break a bone landing on it wrong from that height.)

    hyacinthus.

    1. Re:I guess I'm behind the times... by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He's making up terms all over the place, like this quote: "although I don't think we've ever fleshmet."

      Fleshmeat? I've heard of meat-space and "rl", but I've never heard that phrase. A google search reveals it to be in the title of several pretentious sci-fi stories, and as a reference to gore.

      Indeed, this whole article reeks of a hipper-than-thou attitude, whereby "cool" people have discovered a phenomenom that has been old old-hat to the Internet and science fiction crowd.

      I mean, really, witness the Niven story, and Sterling has been featuring exactly this sort of thing since the early nineties.

      Oh well, though geeks were some of the early adopters of cell phones, I guess we're less likely to use it for drunken phone calls and spontaneous parties. No one is going to notice until hundreds of adult children start doing it en masse.

    2. Re:I guess I'm behind the times... by LinuxHam · · Score: 2

      Fleshmeat? I've heard of meat-space and "rl", but I've never heard that phrase

      Exactly. That bugs the crap out of me, too. The Wall Street Journal recently ran a tech article that talked about retail stores now putting web kiosks in stores like Barnes & Noble and the Gap. The author called retail stores with a web presence "clicks & bricks stores". That's funny, I could have sworn that as we were actually going through that phase of the bubble, they were called "click & mortar stores".

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    3. Re:I guess I'm behind the times... by joto · · Score: 2

      Am I the only one who can't stop thinking dirty when I hear "fleshmet"?

  8. Yup by the+bluebrain · · Score: 2, Insightful

    this is another social "scene" I can help define by not being part of it.

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  9. Difficulties? by Violet+Null · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There can be a dark side to all this. Swarmers can have difficulty living in the present.

    Living in the present? It sounds like these people have some problems living by themselves. We've already got attention-deficit disorder, and the article brings this up near the end -- that you get people who leave if the situation doesn't immediately grab (and hold) their attention -- but the extension of this would be people who can't (or won't) go and do things on their own, without their friends (or 'swarm').

  10. slashdotting parties and marketroids by Alien54 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    flash crowd

    Larry Niven's 1973 SF short story "Flash Crowd" predicted that one consequence of cheap teleportation would be huge crowds materializing almost instantly at the sites of interesting news stories. Twenty years later the term passed into common use on the Internet to describe exponential spikes in website or server usage when one passes a certain threshold of popular interest (what this does to the server may also be called slashdot effect).

    So now we get to slashdot a party, bar, or other social event.

    I wonder how long it will take for some marketroid to figure out a way to use the phenom as a way to promote their rather bad and awful party, bar, or social event?

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    1. Re:slashdotting parties and marketroids by bons · · Score: 3, Interesting
      "I wonder how long it will take for some marketroid to figure out a way to use the phenom as a way to promote their rather bad and awful party, bar, or social event?"

      Been there. Done that. Count the number of Linux/hacker/security/opensource/etc conventions on Slashdot in the future. It's gotten to the point where I come to slashdot to find upcoming conventions. I've yet to find a better listing. (I wish it more timely sometimes, but it's definately one of the most comprehensive.)

    2. Re:slashdotting parties and marketroids by Mittermeyer · · Score: 2

      Actually Niven was expounding (intentionally or not) on ideas expressed in Alfred Bester's The Stars My Destination (1956). In it the individual power of teleportation by the power of the mind becomes an average joe's transport (known as jaunting). What happens to society when everyone can zip around? My fave are the driver's licenses adapted to a jaunting world.

      In Bester's take the flash crowds are not there to gawk but to loot after a disaster.

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  11. Re:Eye and face contact by Wisp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think that article made a more complex point

    - That these technologies are strongly informing
    the subcultures that really adopt them and that
    at least one part of that effect is strengthening
    different modalities of being social.

    You could say the same about chat for instance
    except these are groups of people that are out
    socializing in the classical sense with special
    new characteristics.

  12. New Oxymoron! by bons · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Smart Mob"
    News for Linguists. Stuff to banter.

  13. Herd metality by tanveer1979 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Flash crowd, slashdot effect.... whatever you call it but the fact is that technology takes the instincts to a next level. Its called herd mentality, no matter how much we shrink the globe or what we do, is so wired in our genes or lets say jeans ;-), you go I come i go you come and we go they come!

    This is definately amusing :-). Centuries ago the same thing used to pass by word of mouth, and people used to flock for witch executions. And now sound has been replaced by electricity..The irony is that the meduim which is supposed to promote free thinking and freedom is also simultaniosly promoting whats it against!

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    1. Re:Herd metality by s0meguy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My favourite example of herd mentality is the Office Computer Monitor effect. Stand three people in front of a computer screen and a crowd will soon gather and grow exponentially.

  14. feh by K. · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wooh, go the americans, we can call each other or send text messages, let's all write sociology papers!

    Yawn goes the rest of the developed world, another fucking sms spam.

    So hungry goes the developing world, and am surrounded by landmines.

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  15. Dammmt... by liquidsin · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't get to the link. It's been flash-crowded already.

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  16. Re:Eye and face contact by gilroy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Blockquoth the poster:
    people who tend to use these new PDA technologies are seriously missing out on the more traditional forms of human contact.
    A priori, this is not necessarily a bad thing... Things aren't good just because they're new. They aren't good just because they're old. And sometimes, "time honored" is just another way of saying "previously the only option".
  17. It's Really A Good Thing by Flaming+Foobar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I like cell phones, SMS, PDA's whatnot. I like the fact that I can be reached and I can reach my friends most of the time, and I like a calendar that beeps an hour before an important meeting etc. I think currently we are seeing a lot of people overusing their newly discovered communication media which has spawned the inevitable anti-cell phone movement. Eventually, however, I am sure what will happen is what has happened with every other new technology, i.e. these tools will become part of our everyday lives and the novelty will wear off. People will get used to all their toys and will discard the features they don't need. Not every celebrity sighting will be SMS'd to everyone at that point anymore. I think it is not a coincidence that only the 'social' side of the mobile technology has really caught on. People want to talk to other people, either via SMS 'chatting' or regular calls, download ring tones (so their *friends* will hear them when the phone rings!). The faceless 'mobile Internet' seems to Interest very few people. Contrary to many people, I also tend to think that the fact that people have the guts to talk about their private lives in public is a good thing. It's almost like free counceling. Of course, there is a limit to what I want to hear... - FF

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  18. Naw. by Brown · · Score: 2, Informative

    You don't say.

    Maybe mobiles aren't as coomon in the USA as in the UK, but here roughly 75% of the population have one, and if you're between 15 and 25 quite a few people look at you strangely if you don't (around Cambridge anyhow). They've become expected.

    For example, I was meeting my mates in London for my birthday 2 weeks ago; we were all coming in from different areas of the south of England. The day before we arranged a place and time - Victoria at 11:00. Come the next morning, everyone arrives in London, different arrival points, different times - out comes the mobiles> All 8 of us found each other within 20 mins of arriving, despite the 'group' having moved several times between the first and last person - some of whom didn't hear about the meet til that morning.

    Trying to do the same on such short notice without mobiles just wouldn't be possible. Mobiles have removed the need to plan - you can just do it all on the fly.

    1. Re:Naw. by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2

      that's nice if you hated planning to begin with. I thrive on it. If I don't know what I'm doing next, then I get very uncomfortable.

  19. Saw a commercial for this at 2am by gmkeegan · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think the conventional (and most descriptive) term for this behavior is flash crowd.

    I thought the term was Crowds Gone Wild!

  20. Cell phone by DaveMe · · Score: 2, Informative

    as cell phones increasingly become something that a teenager gets with her driver's license (...)
    I knew the US are lagging behind Europe in terms of cell phone usage, but I didnt think it was that much. In Germany, being 14 and not having at least a crappy Nokia 3210 means your parents are technophobic hippies, and that youre socially death.

    1. Re:Cell phone by TheOnlyCoolTim · · Score: 2

      Here in the U.S. you will often see kids who constantly show off their expensive Nextel cellular phones, make sure everyone has their phone number, and constantly talk to each other or even worse use the Nextel "Direct Connect" feature which allows them to talk to each other, but LOUDLY and with the addition of constant annoying beeps.

      Most of these kids deserve a swift kick in the balls.

      Tim

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    2. Re:Cell phone by ThereIsNoSporkNeo · · Score: 2, Funny

      I beg to differ.

      You said:
      "Most of these kids deserve a swift kick in the balls."

      Now, I put to your attention that a significant number of the aforementioned annoying kids are female, making the "Kick in the balls" a more difficult proposition.

      I propose we use "Boot to the head".

      He who has too much time on his hands:

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    3. Re:Cell phone by phaze3000 · · Score: 2

      In England having a phone as lowly as a Nokia 3210 would be social death for the 12-16 yr olds.. my little sister now constantly bitches how her 3310 is now 'sooo last year' and how she *must* have a new phone. Doubtless a similar situation occurs in schools across Europe..

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  21. Functional Telepathy by mattbelcher · · Score: 3

    Of all the "magic" powers, telepathy is the one I think we'll be able to simulate most accurately, and very soon. Suppose we merged cell phone technology with instant messaging buddy lists. Add a sub-vocal interface and a tiny earpiece and microphone, and you might as well be telepathic. (Albeit, for a limited number of daytime minutes!)

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  22. Welcome to the modern world, U.S... by PetriWessman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's nice to see the U.S. take notice of something that's an old phenomenon over here in wireless-happy Finland (and other parts of Europe). I remember first talking about this issue with friends years and years back. Practically everyone has had a mobile phone for so many years now that a lot of people don't even notice how much it has changed things. Little kids have mobile phones. Soon my cats will probably have one ;)

    For example, nobody agrees on an exact place/time to meet anymore. People just take a bus to the city center, and hook up with people while they're on the move. Likewise, people are totally used to being reachable all the time, and actually feel a bit cut off from society if their phone breaks or something. The same thing as with the Net and email, I guess. If you don't want to be available you turn your phone off or switch it to silent mode, but you want the option of being reachable to there.

    Quite amusing to see the States now start to reach this level and notice it. Not intended as a putdown, just as a statement - mobile tech is one area where many parts of Europe are still way ahead, very much due to GSM. Things will probably even out in the future.

    I write software for mobile messaging systems, so I have some idea of what I'm talking about, btw ;)

    1. Re:Welcome to the modern world, U.S... by RGRistroph · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have also noticed the atrophy of the ability to plan in my friends who have cell phones. I generally don't use one (occasionally activate a pre-paid mobile for long driving trips, should there be an emergency), and it is impossible to meet anyone anymore. They like to just say "meet me on 6th street in some bar" and then you are supposed to go to 6th, call them, find out what bar they went to on the spur of the moment, realize their habits have so atrophied they can't even tell you where they are in the bar, go to the bar and call them AGAIN, so you can locate them by the ringing phone.

      It's disgusting, really. I think some of my friends have almost completely lost the ability to plan more than 30 minutes ahead. They live 30 minutes (including a shower) from school and work, and any agreement to do anything that requires more than a half an hour preparation (such as meeting at a place an hour's drive away) requires constant communication, calling them to tell "you should be on the road now" or asking them to call you as they leave, or something like that.

      It's not a good part of modern society.

    2. Re:Welcome to the modern world, U.S... by milo_Gwalthny · · Score: 2

      I believe most /.ers realize Scandinavia is way ahead in wireless, not because the US is more rural (Finland has a *far* lower population density than the US: 15 people/km^2 v. 30/km^2 in the US) but because your government has encouraged the industry. The US press took note of this fact long ago (soda machines activated by cellphones! Finnish kids getting enlarged thumbs!) I think Americans are just more interested in their countrymen's doings than in the doings of others.

      I am always a bit confused by these postings from non-Americans: doesn't the Finnish media pay more attention to things when they happen in Finland? Hard for me to tell because when in Scandinavia I can only read the English-language papers. It does seem the Brits pay an awful lot of attention to things that affect only them (the Royals, cricket, the Pound - oops, sorry), but that just seems natural.

      What do you think?

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  23. One weak link and no automation would mean... by Rahga · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One weak link and no automation would mean... potential for a lot of wasted energy.

    Let's face it. I bet if poor old Prince William wanted his horde of money-and-power-hungry vultures off his back, all it would take is a few staff member or even a few defectors to infirltrate the network and fire off the occasional false alarm. If the level of sophistication in the group doesn't involve and automatic central server to relay these messages, then the wasted energy in communicating combined with the end result would probably see the group die off with ease....

    Without guidance or leadership in such groups, any activities that can have negative consequences on those with power could likely be thwarted with ease.

    Anyways, I personally live my life without a cell phone, and I love it. Of course, marriage and fatherhood mean that I don't have this need to feel my life with boring, unfullfilling noncompetitive social activity. In one level, I'm glad I don't have ammount of time to burn that these folks obviously do. On another level, a bit more time to pursue my own hobbies and goals would be nice...

    1. Re:One weak link and no automation would mean... by HiThere · · Score: 2

      That's why you need to build these groups around a network of trust.

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  24. Idoru by f00Dave · · Score: 2, Interesting

    William Gibson's "Idoru" hit the nail on the head: it's insufficient merely to have the technology available, there needs to be a pre-existing group of interested parties (a "SIG" for all you old-timers =] ).

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  25. Smart Mob by Rupert · · Score: 2, Redundant

    I was just re-reading Terry Pratchett's Maskerade (my copy is signed by the cast of this production). "The IQ of a mob is the IQ of its least intelligent member divided by the number of people in the mob".

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    1. Re:Smart Mob by HiThere · · Score: 2

      I think that's a paraphrase of Mark Twain, but I don't remember the original phrase. It was also used by Heinlein in, I believe, Stranger in a Strange Land. Possibly also somewhere Lazarus Long used it (but which volume?).

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    2. Re:Smart Mob by glitch! · · Score: 2

      "The IQ of a mob is the IQ of its least intelligent member divided by the number of people in the mob".

      How about, "Any sufficiently large group of people is indistinguishable from idiots". Or simply, "Masses are asses."

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  26. Link as html by Hell+O'World · · Score: 2

    Cool link.
    Here it is in blue.

  27. Flash Crowd != Smart Mob. FC ~= Slashdot Effect by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Flash Crowd == Slashdot Effect.

    Yep. The "Slashdot Effect" is the subset of Slashdot user behavior that cooresponds to a virtual flash crowd: Everybody "teleports" to the site of the news event.

    But a "Smart Mob" is much different from a "Flash Crowd".

    With a "Flash Crowd" hi-tek communication only enables the initial gathering. Once the mob forms they have the same characteristics as a pre-tech mob: Interpersonal communication is minimal, and the "mob organism" exhibits the collective intelligence of an ant army, far lower than that of a committee.

    A "Smart Mob", on the other hand, has instant communication between separated members (and people not present). This enables large-scale organized behavior, cohesive action, regrouping, healing of "wounds", etc.

    A Smart Mob has the same relation to a Flash Crowd as the "Permanent Floating Riot Club" did in the Niven short story. Though usually less hostile and sociopathic. B-)

    Note that this is another example of human self-organizing behavior. Organizing people is never a problem - they do it spontaneously. Keeping them from organizing to do something undesirable, or doing something undesirable once organized, often is. (Which is why the US Constitution is primarily composed of rules limiting and channeling the government's power.)

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  28. this is new or news ? by Archfeld · · Score: 2

    at 03:30 in the moring in ANY neighborhood, ANYTHING of remote interest will draw a bloody crowd. I worked MIDs as an EMT and policeman. The 64K ? was always HOW do they know and where do they come from ?

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  29. People ARE nodes in a network. Always have been. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What happens when people become nodes on a network?

    People ARE nodes in a network. They have been since before there was electronic communication. They have been since they were prehuman apes.

    It's called "being a social animal."

    It's why making friends who might engage in mutually-beneficial projects and getting such friends to introduce you to other such friends, is called "networking".

    Engineering and analyzing the structure and emergent behavior of electronic communication netowrks has given us additional understanding of the behavior, even as the electronic networks themselves have aided and amplified the functioning of the social networks.

    "Global village" was coined when the only ones with effective access to large-scale communication was the professional newscriers and gossips. But general access to directed communication enables a "global city" - with distinct boroughs of differing cultures and interests but without geographic limitations.

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  30. Taking this to the next level... by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are already technologies that let a phone get a general idea of its location based on what tower it's talking to (Palm.net and the VII/i705 - why oh why doesn't CDMA data have this feature? And I don't think GSM has this sort of integration, partly because both data services were designed for phones possible with an external data device, not integrated solutions like the Kyocera 6035 or the Treo)

    I see in the future a variation of IM software (Why use current IM solutions when you have SMS???) in which you mark yourself as saying, "I'm available" with possibly a little bit of personal info (age 18-25 or whatever), that shows up to anyone looking to find people in their immediate area. (Maybe defined as "my tower and adjacent x towers" since I believe the GPS capabilities in E-911 are on demand and NOT user controlled.)

    New to a city? Take a bus to the city center and mark yourself available to meet people. (As opposed to the mentions of such activities existing already that require you to already have the phone # of the person you're messaging.)

    People would be able to create "networks" on the fly that anyone could find and join into.

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  31. False alarms are exactly the wrong thing to do... by 1of0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...What this would create a Partial Reinforcement effect. As any behavioral psychologist can tell you a behavior that gets reinforced partially at random intervals will happen much more often than behavior reinforced every time.

    A classic example of this would be a brat crying for candy. If parents give in every now and then, this child will cry only more often and more intensily whenever (s)he wants something.

    If those "lusty ladies" could not be sure that the message they got was the real one, there would be the oposite effect, a rush to that spot to be the first to confirm weather or not it is true. And those times when it is not, will only fuel the hunger for the next chance.

  32. Go to the source by kellan1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just a repackaging of what Rheingold himself wrote 2 weeks ago, Smart Mobs, with a few amusing if poorly documented anecdotes thrown in. The original is more interesting.

  33. Re:What about health risks by NeuroUk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Havn't you heard of the inverse square law :-)

    The amount of radiation from a phone say 3 foot away is way lower than one clamed to your head.

  34. human contact? by beaverfever · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If I may quote a posting already listed as a troll:

    "people who tend to use these new PDA technologies are seriously missing out on the more traditional forms of human contact."

    I believe there is a lot of truth to this, and anyone who takes a good hard look at culture in San Francisco will see it. There are a lot of people here who know lots of people and always have a party to go to but their best friends are the ones they left behind in other towns and cities, the ones they met before social connectivity ruled their lives. Also, the connected culture, as illustrated in the article, is a culture of following, of never really going anywhere without prior review and approval - where is the discovery, adventure and education in that?

    The fact that it is becoming normal to be frequently interupted by cell phone ringing and ignored by the people around you while they chat on cell phones could produce a social backlash. It has on a minor scale, but those who choose not to be totally connected by refusing PDAs and cell phones are more of an ignored anomoly right now.

    It will be interesting to look back in ten or twenty years and see how much of this is just a trend for the moment (CB radio - what?) and how much sticks - tv is generally accepted as vacuous entertainment with few redeeming qualities and it's still going strong.

  35. Disney's California Adventure by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 2
    I live close enough to Disneyland to hear the fireworks every night. Got a pass to it and California Adventure. The later is actually kinda fun and I'd be willing to pay, say, $15 for a day there. The shame is that they want $45.

    At $45 it absolutely sucks. Everyone knows it. No one goes there. On slow days last year they've had as few as fifteen paying guests on site, meaning the employees outnumbered them by a few orders of magnitude.

    Disney pumped tons of money into developing CA and their marketting types put almost as much into advertising. Fact is, though, that it is a failure in it's current form and no amount of marketting money is gonna turn it around. (Disney is getting on the stick and adding a ton of rides this Fall, but we'll have to see how it goes)

    The moral? I agree with you that it is inevitable that someone will eventually use this to try to promote a dog of a product. It won't do them any good. To paraphrase Field of Dreams: "Build it, but if it sucks, they still won't come"

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  36. Leaderless swarming at UCLA by jamesmartinluther · · Score: 2

    I saw an early form of this when I was a student at UCLA in the early 90's, especially among Asian students who were more likely at that time to have cell phones.

    The behavior began with a lot of evening calls going around among "friends" beginning with the key phrase: "what are you up to tonight?". Sooner or later there would be someone who was up to something! And that activity would start to become the "thing to be doing tonight". I would watch friends initiate (or participate in) the construction of a party or movie outing in minutes. When we got there, a small crowd was always waiting (conversing on cell phones of course). Heh.

    Unfortunately, a big draw-back to this was that the smallest complaint in the "swarm net" would lead to a compromised outcome. I saw way too many dumb movies due to this effect, and thus I no longer swarm.

    - James

  37. OK, fine. by Dthoma · · Score: 2
    So the military and police forces have a hard time coping with these people? Well, they do have strategies to counter it. Someone's already suggested sending false messages, but why not just intercept the calls people make so that you can see where the crowd is heading? Even though the whole gathering is like a small P2P network, since everyone will be sending similar messages (due to the snowball effect when the ringleader makes an announcement) all you have to do is listen to a couple of people and you can see what they're going to do. If you're desparate, then you could just jam the cellphone frequencies and they'll be split into a massive collection of isolated agents rather than a cohesive swarm.

    At which point you can move in with the water cannons.

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  38. alternate reality by g4dget · · Score: 2
    Personal communication devices always allowed people to communicate easily and to coordinate their plans at the spur of the moment. As PCDs became widespread, they allowed their owners to converge rapidly in large groups, for purposes social or political.

    This must be in some alternate reality. In real life, "PCDs" are marred by lousy user interfaces, tiny keyboards, short battery lives, miniscule screens, low resolution, limited range, and incompatibilities.

  39. Someone has the right idea... by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2

    One implementation (Although not exactly automated) of such an idea can be found at www.relatia.com - Unfortunately, www.freefor.com does not seem to resolve to anything, otherwise I'd play with it.

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  40. Re:Explain by Rahga · · Score: 2

    I assume that it is more fullfilling to ME than those other lifestyles. Personally, I couldn't stand the barhopping scene or any of that....

    I wouldn't be able to stand it. If you or anyone else ejoys that type of lifestyle or activity, then have at it. :)

  41. Re:False alarms are exactly the wrong thing to do. by Rahga · · Score: 2

    Honestly, that thought did occour to me.... Then there's the potential to completely muck up the system by having insiders both verify the fake reports as being true and deny the true reports....

    Either way... It's good to be the king! Too bad it sucks to be the prince ;)

  42. No-shows by Mulletproof · · Score: 2

    And where is the cell-phone radiation paranoia crowd when you need em...? But then, I'm not the expert on how much power these things broadcast. I'd imagine if it wasn't range you need to worry about, it's data integrity...

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  43. evolution by ProfKyne · · Score: 2

    Seriously, I have thought long and hard about the role of cell phones in society (yeah I was a cultural studies scholar in college), and I see it as a form of primitive telepathy. I'm not trying to be weird or joke around; if you really think about it -- cell phones give you instant communication with others.

    (Not the kind of telepathy where you can read others' minds, the kind where you can communicate instantly with other telepaths.)

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  44. Re:People ARE nodes in a network. Always have been by osolemirnix · · Score: 2
    Yeah, but they used to be purely biological nodes in a network. Now they've become BORG nodes. And just like the BORG, this amplification gives them the ability to do more (faster, better, more efficient, etc.).

    Resistance is futile. You too will want a cellphone one day (your kids certainly do).

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  45. I've wanted one since at least 1969. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

    Resistance is futile. You too will want a cellphone one day (your kids certainly do).

    I've wanted one (or a radio phone) since at least 1967.

    At least that's the earliest I remember looking at whether anything less solvent than a government agency could acquire enough miniature parts to hack a transciever into a Princess (tm) phone handset and use it to talk to an automated base station.

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