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Haiku vs Spam
Mark Cantrell was among several people who sent in a story about a company using "Haiku to Stop Spam. Essentially you use a copyrighted Haiku
to tag that a message meets criteria (1 Recipient, Pre-Existing Relationship,
etc) which then makes it a simple matter to filter the mail. I'm sure the spammers in China will laugh wildly as they forge the haiku. I challange comment posters to post only Haiku in this discussion ;)
China eh? Funny, I always thought Haiku was a Japanese art. . .
I know more than you drink.
posting in haiku
will leave much left unmentioned
but those are the rules
sometimes seventeen
syllables ain't enough to
express a complete
Face it, people are stupid, and the internet is the place where they all meet.
Drop by drop by drop
Sweet rain turns to killing flood
One mail, ten mails, spam.
Pro-copyright news,
like shifting summer breezes,
fans Slashdot fires.
"The Crystal Wind is the Storm, and the Storm is Data, and the Data is Life"
The old pond; spammer
jumps in; the sound of water;
please, please, no bubbles.
"she says i'm lousy conversation. as if that's supposed to help."
Zen's sound is nothing
Power out, system silent
No power is Zen
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Your first line is off,
Two syllables are missing.
Do you know Haiku?
Anything that blocks
Spam from my machine is good.
How long will this work?
"...At the end of the day"..."when everyone goes home, you're stuck with yourself." RIP Layne Staley
Why not read thing first
before you post mindless trash
slashdot getting worse
This is a spam mail
please erase this from Inbox
Don't need viagra
this is for my friend
always so nice and helpful
no pyramid scheme
i hate christine hall
and her trafficmagnet site
send me endless spam
amazon dot com
stop sending me newsletters
I'm illiterate
.... um, i lost you after "0110100001101001".
(For those who don't know: haiku is three lines of five, seven, and five syllables, in that order.)
From nmhu.edu:
HAIKU - (high-coo)
The haiku is a three-line, seventeen syllable, unrhymed poem, which uses nature as its primary focus. The Haiku captures a moment in nature or in life and freezes it with disciplined language. Each reader then thaws the message, the picture that has been painted by words, and brings the scene to life.
17 syllable, 3 lines
Line 1 5 syllables
Line 2 7 syllables
Line 3 5 syllables
Come to the University of Mars! Classes starting soon!
My english teacher
Finally vindicated
Haiku has a use
Casca
"Do YOU want to see
Iambic Pentameter
Lesbian action?"
Try h t t p
colon slash slash habeas
dot com. More info.
"The Crystal Wind is the Storm, and the Storm is Data, and the Data is Life"
Damn, you guys are 'tards.
Learn to write proper haiku.
(I could teach my dog.)
- A.P.
"Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
Vogon poetry
Stopping spammers easily
Sue their asses now
Displaying limited brains
May be quoted thus:
Habeas in fact
means "let us have" and no more
and not "evidence"
They are thinking of
"writ of habeas corpus"
"Let's have the body"
Nitpick mode now off
Let those who frequent this board
Now resume to speak.
"The best argument against democracy is a five minute chat with the average voter."
--Winston Churchill
Oh tin of pink meat
I ponder what you may be:
Snout or ear or feet?
Take license to send
email to people I know?
Now, matters are worse.
"We reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals." --The American President (20.1.2009)
Signal noise ratio falling
Slashdot fades to black...
For those that would die defending it, Freedom
has a sweet taste that the protected will never know.
Oops! Misspelled haiku.
Pretend that it was satire.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
read the article
mystery revealed to you
poem placed in header
Who said Freedom was Fair?
There was a story on Yahoo /.ers jived,
About filtering spam with Haiku.
So in five-seven-five,
All the
But I thought I should try something new!
Good judgment comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgment.
i know not haiku
as my previous post proves
i go back to code
Things you think are in the Constitution, but are not.
Stupid formatting. Should have been:
Haiku poems are
Japanese, not Chinese; shows
what you know, Slashdot.
There is no sig, there is only Zuul.
ah, poor slashdotter
you tried to correct spelling,
made grammar mistake
"I assumed blithely that there were no elves out there in the darkness"
Effective filters
Steal the light out of my day
Weep, I, for lost pr0n
To make up for one lacking.
Still not enforceable.
I spent a year in Iraq looking for WMD and all I found was this lousy sig.
Individuals and Internet service providers can license and use the mark for free, while businesses and bulk e-mail companies will pay to use it.
Great, so now my inbox gets filled with spam, but from companies that are paying Habeas to do so. I'll have to add the domains of those who purchase licenses to my filters... wait, isn't that what I'm doing now?
Sure, sue spammers for trademark infringement, copyright violations. Yes, since the RIAA, MPAA, and Microsoft are having so much success stamping out piracy in China, I'm sure this new scheme is going to stop the spammers cold! In fact let me call my broker so I can buy some Habeas stock!
-- If god wanted me to have a sig, he'd have given me a sense of humor.
Like bodysnatchers,
Spam has crept into our lives
It will win, I think.
The mad scientist,
in the lab toils to create
square pigs for Hormel.
Spam, it does not reap,
neither doth it sow, I think,
it cunningly waits.
When left with the rest,
A wise man chose to call it
Spam: Sow Parts And Meat.
Glist'ning, shiny block,
too horrible to think from
where you came and how.
You must look at Spam
that does not correspond to
the knitting machine.
Spark'ling Spam that zaps
when eaten or dropped from high
drank from the charge pond.
Unlike the Eggy,
Spam not only 'can tongue', it
is canned tongue in steel.
Deep within the heart
of swine there cries out a voice
"Spam, my destiny."
Saw a therapist-
He made me wallow in Spam.
He was The Rapist.
Ran out of dead cows
to loft at the seiged city.
Used Spam, rest all died.
Ship loaded with Spam
runs aground on the dark reef.
Oil slick and fish kill.
Greasy loaf, digest.
Leave me better than you found-
Clog not arteries.
Truncated blue can,
how can you contain such vile
and slimy pig guts?
Who hast made thee, Spam?
Pink, glutinous, porcine parts
there in gelled repose.
Chopped and fried, layered
among other things pig-like,
surely a man's feast.
The Spam maps Pam's amps
hoping to find a way to
avoid the hot pan.
Spam spilled in the street,
greasy and slick from the can,
a twelve car pileup.
Faint whiff of the sea,
Greasy scent of things porcine,
I must open it.
Missles fly, "Nuke War!"
All is still, the earth cools down,
Roaches feast on Spam.
Sliced for sandwich,
formed as loaf, chopped for salad,
my Spam does not judge.
Once thought unclean, now
all pigs strive for a higher
plane of being - Spam.
By T. Goodfellow:
Conjugating Spam
spamo, spamas, spamatus
Boy I hate Latin.
Spam in my stocking
on December 25th
I was bad this year
50% off
an after-Christmas Spam sale
plenty to pick from
If Spam were outlawed
only outlaws would carry
guns made of pig meat
While on a cruise ship
"Spam overboard!" came the yell
No one seemed to care
Ma pig, to her son,
If you don't make something of
yourself, Hormel will.
I like Spam, I do
but I'd never admit it
to someone like you
Locked out of the house
on the doorstep shivering
Spam waits for its master
DaVinci drawing
to British scholars reveals
early Spam concepts
re-inventing Spam
I suggest we use soy beans
vegetarian
Like chicken and egg
does the can shape the Spam, or
does Spam shape the can?
Summer '59,
The rains came early, then dry
A great Spam vintage.
Sooner or later
zero or more cans of Spam
not pleasing itself
only Hormel can
make the manslaughter of pigs
Man's laughter of Spam
Hogs, none the wiser
board the bus to nirvana
destination: Spam
A pallet of Spam
could it be any worse than
Spam on the palette
Secret document
stolen by Chinese agents
Spam powered rockets
Proper etiquette
demands that Spam eaters
conceal agony
Attorneys or Spam
The only difference is
in the packaging
If Spam grew on trees
Newton's law calculations
would have been greasy
In a Spam glacier
a fully preserved mammoth
What a way to go
Tunneling inward
the electron microscope
atomic pig parts
pigs, each year with hope
in vain searching yellow pages
still no Spam heading
the stock broker
stuffing his porkfolio
going long on Spam
Anticipation
Spam in a ketchup bottle
s l o w l y s l i d i n g out.
Boy scout winter camp
Spam unevenly heated
half frozen; half burnt
Tiller's Rule: Never use a word in written form that you've only heard and never read. You will end up looking foolish.
Thats way too funny
please mod the parent post up
correct format please
www.slightlycrewed.com - Because aren't we all?
From Nigeria
Someone owes you millions
too good to be true!
SlashDot article
Hyperlinks call to me but
afraid of GoatSex
Dear hated spammer,
You vandalise my hotmail.
Die with spike up ass!
SlashDot educates,
I thought Haiku Japanese,
Now I know better.
The gift of death metal does not smile on the good looking.
Hmm. So far as a I know 5-7-5 is the rule; in addition to be a true haiku it must have a nature theme; satirical 5-7-5 verses are known as senryu. Strict rules in the form of haiku made sense because the form originated as a set of standard openings (hokku) for renga. Renga is kind of a Japanese poetry geek game in whihc players take turns adding to the end of a poem according to complicated rules as to form and theme. Collections of hokku were made the way chess enthusiasts collect openings. Eventually, making hokku branched off into a separate literary activity.
People adapting the haiku form to other languages may well relax the 5-7-5 rule, because it doesn't really make sense in many other languages other than Japanese. Every language has its unique sound which dicttaes its poetic form. However, I'd argue that a true haiku canot be created in any language other Japanese, or perhaps some other language that flows similarly. The true sound of a Japanese 5-7-5 stanza cannot be captured in English. I expect that certain English forms, such as the limerick, don't fare well in Japanese. English is a stressed language, so all limericks share a kind of flow to them: da-DAdada-DAdada-DUM, da-DAdada-DAdada-DUM, da-DAdada-DUM, da-DAdada-DUM,da-DAdada-DAdada-DUM.
Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
Five-seven-and-five
Aren't nearly enough words
To explain oneself.
The Habeas mark contains a three-line haiku protected by copyright law. Six other lines contain the copyright and trademark notices and other trademark protected information.... If senders fail to meet the criteria, they could be sued for trademark and copyright infringement, Mitchell said.
Basically, they're using copyright law to replace a non-existant spam law. If your header contains their copyrighted haiku, then you're not sending spam and you're allowed through. If you use the haiku header and you're still spam, you're violating their rules and are sued for copyright infringement.
Cute strategy, especially the part where they piggyback on the geek affection for gratuitous haiku, but it's built upon the (frankly) naive idea that their subscribers can get everyone they want to get email from to play along. It basically turns your entire flow of email into an "opt-in" list. It's nice that you can sue spammers with forged headers for copyright infringement, but that's not what's going to happen; what will happen is you'll get a "unknown sender" folder chock-full of spam and a few useful e-mails from people who don't know or don't care how to use the haiku header, and you'll still have to sort through it by hand every day.
The spammers won't need to forge their headers, unless (somehow) this tactic gets adopted by the entire Internet, including Yahoo, Hotmail and AOL. The inconvenience will be great enough that no one will want to play along anyway.
550 spammer
trying to mail my user
fuck you, it's summer
Click-through Haiku
you must comply to
this copyright agreement
I agree || Cancel
I challenge the editors of Slashdot to quit posting crap like this. There is more going on in the world of SPAM prevention than the stupidity of adding Haikus to e-mail messages (great waste of bandwidth).
Maybe it passed by the editor's eyes that Apple has registered the trademark 'Junkyard' and has installed "sophisticated built-in junk mail filtering" into Mac OS X 10.2. Rumor is that Apple will be adding junk mail filtering software in their Mac OS X Server OS. Junkyard is the product name for this technology that is going to be added/tagged on to Mac OS X Server's version of Sendmail. If it is like Rendezvous, it will be open source and available to the Open Source Community.
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
Ha! I bet in Perl you could write it in eight.
[PowerPoint] is a tool for capitalist presentation
ohayo ac
anata wa baka desu
arigatou gozaimasu!
graspee
PS- not sure with "desu" etc if the "u" counts, since it is written but not pronounced. Well, not pronounced in Tokyo anyway...
haiku lines have been unearthed
(thanks to i0lanthe)
Each line has a head
X-Habeas-SWE-n: where
n is 1, 2, 3
I can only guess
That "SWE" is sounded out "swee"
And "(tm)" sounds not.
"The best argument against democracy is a five minute chat with the average voter."
--Winston Churchill
I could post a troll
but how many syllables
has goatse.cx?
I'd include something
regarding "Taco-snotting"
in a verse or two.
Where is this 'poopbot'
when one needs him her or it
as the case may be.
You moderators
who mod this down as a troll
are indeed foolish.
It's obviously
my lame attempt at humor:
'overratted' sure,
perhaps 'redundant',
'funny' if you find it so.
Score minus one 'lame'.
One can only be
certain that moderation
prediction will cause
moderators to
try to make you a liar.
I hereby declare
then, that this post will
remain unmoderated
with default plus one.
SKY have just won the rights to screen the World Origami Championships from Tokyo.
Unfortunately it's only available on Paper View.
(sorry, it's a slow day)
Haiku in headers
Message goes through filter
Otherwise blocked.
To license haiku
Sender must certify
Email is not spam.
For an ISP
Or individual user
The license is free.
Businesses and
Bulk email senders will pay
Habeas a fee.
Clever idea
But it must be in wide use
To ever do much good.
Is there a patent
Pending or applied for
On this email tool?
(No, I didn't write this, but I thought it was worth using here. Original author unknown.)â
== Paul Rickard, Editor of The Microsoft Boycott Campaign ====
(Excuse the English representation of Japanese)
He nari totte
ada to omou na
morobi to yo
bu-u to naritotte
hotoke nari keri
Translation(rough):
When you fart
do not feel embarrassed
when you go *poot*
you become like Budda
I tried every decent and legal way I could think of to resolve the issue w/the business before I rented the chicken suit
haikus should contain
wind blowing, leaves falling
something about nature
spam unnatural
cut cows however you want
you will not find it
find the truth of it
syllables not everything
more to sky than stars
Is it spam or not?
Is the haiku in the text?
Either way, it's spam
Lemon curry?
I am not quite sure
This will do much good at all.
Please let me explain:
Personal use is free,
But they charge firms to use it.
Not all firms will pay.
Most folks will prefer
To get a thousand spam than
To lose one real mail.
If it's mail from firms
That's more likely to get lost
That is even worse:
Mail folk WANT from firms
Tends to be most important:
Reciepts, upgrades, on..
In the article
They said mail lacking haiku
Should not be destroyed;
Yet having the mail
Brought to your attention is
Yes/No, no degree.
Even if you store
Suspect mail apart from clean
In case real mail's lost,
To check for that loss
You must sort through all the spam
Which defies the point.
Also mentioned was
Countries which don't have these laws
Can spam just the same:
So how long before
They set up remailer bots
That add the haiku?
Even if the mail
Didn't come from China when
It was written first,
The 'criminal' act -
Adding haiku without leave -
will have happened there.
Spam filters should be
Based on what mail to turn down,
Not what to accept.
are you lonely guy
click here for the pheromones
women will go crazy
penis too little
buck up, gullible person
this lotion will help
tired of debt? rejoice!
now all your worries are gone
(we are a non-profit)
psssst! Remember me?
I'm naked hot and horny
click for all nude pics
www.avacal.com -- the home page of pete shaw
Spam stopper based on
copyright, SMTP
ignorance. Yeah, right.
When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a skull.
GNU is for hippies
FreeBSD is dying
Score negative 1
The 2nd to last paragraph makes me lose hope of ever getting rid of spam.
businesses and bulk e-mail companies will pay to use it.
so this is really just a way for them to get in the loop and make some money off the spammers.
ROTTEN!
Cheap storage VM.
problem with having
semantic meaning haiku-
transmittal can fail.
haiku is supposed
to have a season, color
and an animal.
these lines do not have
the proper prerequisites
it is not artful.
so, that just defeats
the reason one writes haiku-
makes it mockery.
int'resting to note,
it says that the mail sender
certifies the mail.
violation for
using the trademark wrongly
is a simple suit.
this will only work
if the spammer is truthful;
not hiding headers.
it's interesting,
that they specifically use
the haiku format.
possibilities
are quite endless. what next?
using sonnet form?
-k
yours,
kbs
A common mistake among English speakers is that in English, haiku would still be composed of seventeen syllables. It is not.
Here is a very good article on it (featuring my favorite haiku BTW).
It comes down to the semantics of English versus Japanese. Under English there is a much more constrictive syntax, thus the meaning of a phrase can change just by resorting the words (Japanese, OTOH, is more resilient). Why is this important? 17 syllables in English can carry much more meaning than 17 syllables in Japanese.
Most haiku authors agree that the rough mean in English should be 12 in three phrases. Of course that is just a starting point at best. One of Ezra Pound's better known haiku is 18 syllables in two lines. In the end haiku creation is not a rote process.
What is music when you despise all sound?
Your Haiku is suck
It makes baby Jesus cry
But much less than Spam
perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10)'
Will probably be:
millions satisfied,
totally natural pill:
enlarge your penis.
(it even has a "natural" theme... sorta) and
a special offer,
a low interest mortgage.
chance of a lifetime.
RMN
~~~
thankfully the posts
usually long winded
are much shorter now
There's nothing Intelligent about Intelligent Design.