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$20 Million on Lobbying Defeats CA Privacy Bill
sphughes writes "The San Francisco Chronicle is reporting that banks, insurance companies and other corporations spent more than $20 million in campaign contributions and lobbying expenses to defeat a recent consumer privacy bill SB773. The story can be found here. These are preliminary figures through July and may actually run much higher. The bill had been modified from opt-in to opt-out but was still killed."
Why is this not surprising? Could anyone explain why these institutions need more information than that which I explicitly give them in writing?
C|N>K
Any privacy you had has now GONE.
Any freedom of speech you had has now GONE
You are now the Corporate Fascist Republic of Amerikkka.
Do you enjoy life in the land of the "free" ?
I guess so long as you can continue to masturbate over sick anime in your parent's basement whilst downloading the latest Linux kernal and posting wanky whinging crap on slashdot, everythings OK ?
You fucking Linux Zealots make me sick!!!!
Cue music
Cue american idol
Cue money hungry americans
Buy your september 11 flags here!
Has there ever been a run on a bank because of a position they've lobbied? If banks are going to be politically active, maybe the choice of bank you use should also be politically motivated from now on.
The terrible truth. What else is news?
Or is this at least immoral, if not illegal? Obviously these institutions have spent a great deal of money to ensure that they can continue to sell what I regard as private information of "regular folks" to the highest bidder. Perhaps I'm missing something, but the more of these stories I read, the more uncomfortable I am becoming about the general state of affairs in this county.
Make the companies selling your information cut you in for a peice of the profit everytime they sell your information.
III.IIVIVIXIIVIVIIIVVIIIIXVIIIXIIIIIIIIVIIIIVVIII
Gov. Gray Davis received more than $1 million in contributions from banks, insurance companies and other corporations that opposed Speier's bill.
Looks like the banks are getting good use out of eGray. And who says the Internet can't be profitable.
...and sell our government on eBay
American democracy is great. Every dollar is represented equally.
I've said it before yes but it seems particularly apt now.
The end of the article mentions two legislators that took the banks' money but then voted against the bill. I'm not sure if we should applaud these folks for voting their mind or treat them as a pariah for taking the cash then not delivering the goods.
In one of Heinlein's books a recurring character defines an honest politician as one who "once bought stays bought".
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." --Napoleon Bonaparte
The reason the 2 from SF voted for the bill is because they know that their voting record will be an issue in the upcoming election. Also, once the politickians know that a bill will be defeated, some of them will vote for it if it looks good to their sheep^H^H^H^H^Hvoters, as long as their vote doesn't tip the balance.
These companies need to see that these kinds of actions have consequences.
Have you canceled your MBNA credit cards and told them why you were canceling it?
There are plenty of other banks and Credit card compaines. Time to move your account elsewhere. And vocally explain why.
Until the Supreme Court restores the balance it destroyed with its 1978 decision to equate corporate dollars and legalized bribery with freedom of speech, we can only expect this sort of thing to continue.
... but as we all know, there are potent efforts underway to take that particular voice out of our hands in order to protect the cartels of Hollywood and Nashville, efforts designed to put us back in our place, on the couch, accepting whatever they wish to spoonfeed us.
Even insurrection in the streets is unlikely to do much, as the corporate rhetoric will simply change to "don't give in to mass terrorism, and by the way, here's another two hundred grand for next years campaign." The sole method by which this can be stopped is for the voters to turn these fuckers out for good and put them in the unemployment line, but alas, the latter is prevented by corporate favors granting these useless ex-politicos positions as "consultants," with most of their "consulting" done on the golf course or the beach, while the former is prevented by the Media Cartel's monopoly on widespeard information dissemination which effectively locks everyone out of politics at the federal level who doesn't have millions to spend, thus closing the circle on effective citizen participation in govrenment at the federal level completely.
The Internet may play a role is offsetting this
So, what have any of you done about it, beyond a moment's expression of outrage?
The Future of Human Evolution: Autonomy
If you see this as just business as usual (which it is) and would like to be reminded that it is wrong (which it is), may I recommend Arianna Huffington's "How to Overthrow the Government."
Nonetheless, experts on money in politics say campaign contributions cannot help but influence decision makers -- and that corporations wouldn't donate if they got nothing in return.
Unless you were glued to the business and political sections of the news, the opt-out plan slipped by most of us until we starting getting all of those signature cards in the mail, discretely buried on the inside of the last page of a very boring policy pamphlet, which most people threw away.
Yet here we are today, struggling with the effects DMCA and meekly trying to fend off a slew of similar bad bills that are swirling around us like a bad storm. The pattern is the same - the general public is unaware, the entertainment industry has gobs of money and are buying our elected officials at every turn.
Now, where is that damn letter I've been working on for a month?
I love the way everyone here goes on about the horror of street cameras in Europe and then this slips through without a problem... I think I would rather lose public privacy (what is that anyway ?) and keep my personal privacy.
I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
The MPAA, RIAA, and Microsoft all misread it as a "Piracy" bill, and lobbied against it, and of course spent more money than the opposition.
Whoops.
Whoever stated that signature sizes should be limited to one hundred and twenty characters can just go ahead and kiss my
Those lobbyists are paid by BIG companies. I do not think they are the ones doing the spamming. These companies have many computers.
Can you imagine the costs to retrofit the infrastructure, while continuing to do business?
Not to mention future compliance costs, the lawsuits if just one bit of personal info gets out?
$20 million seems a lot cheaper for them...
And they wonder why so many people don't even bother to vote any more...... Hey big business! We're Congress...and we're OPEN for business! All it takes ia a few mil and you can pass any law you want!
FLAMEBAIT!? you cant handle the truth!:)
I am beginning to believe that corruption is the Achille's heel of democracy. South American nations are getting very disenchanated with their own experiements in democracy for this very reason, and America is currently struglling with it at the highest levels of government. Money is a corrupting influence when tied in with politics, and I believe it goes against the very principles democracy is based upon.
I would scream it from the rooftops if I felt it would do any good: CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM! It may not solve every problem, but strong, enforced CFR would at least help. The rich and powerful are vastly overrepresented in the legislatures, some effort at restoring balance is incredibly important. This is not about freedom, it is about the health of the democracy. I, for one, reject the notion that spending money is covered by the First Amendment. Speech is saying something. Spending money is buying something.
GOD how did Bush get elected President? I'm a Democrat, but if McCain had been on the ballot I would have voted for him in a heartbeat. Now we have a President that has spent over half of his time in office either on vacation or fund raising, or a combination thereof.
... sorry, I seem to have drifted from my original point ...
As can be seen here, a money donation to a politician has never every anything to do with their decisions. What are you thinking, that we can buy politicians? Specially not Davis!
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http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/376
Permit OK'd after donation to Davis
BAY AREA REFINERY ALLOWED TO INCREASE POLLUTION AFTER MAKING CONTRIBUTIONS, RECORDS
Cheers, Nostrada
20million is chump change to the direct marketing ppl.
That was hilarious. One word summed it up. I'm gonna jump on the bandwagon: Blame it on the Krauts!!!
Do you really think that politicians are going to pass laws that take money AWAY from them? Get real. These clowns passed the laws ALLOWING this virtual bribery in the first place. Maybe a pol gets into office with the best of intentions, but they quickly discover graft..and it goes downhill from there. Personally, Gray Davis is the biggest disappointment here. Look at the choice I have in November for governor: Davis (a democrat and a crook) or Simon (a republican and a crook). If a state of over 35 million people can't do any better then these two clowns, why even bother to vote?
In Finland political parties get money out of taxes. This means that there's less incentive to rely on corporations for financial support.
And in Finland, there are more than two parties even. Imagine that!
Politicians seen as self-serving, greedy corporate sock-puppets. News at 11...
Code, Hardware, stuff like that.
My understanding is that a company exists to improve the value of the investor's investment. It might have other obligations under law, and it might choose to undertake good works in the community (with subsequent boosts in goodwill), but its prime goal is to make money doing whatever it is it does. Money used to do things other than this is mis-spent.
Grab the nearest politician and ask him if money contributed to him/her can buy favors. I imagine the answer will be "no", because that kind of thing is illegal in most countries.
So as a shareholder in a company that makes campaign contributions, can I bring a lawsuit for misappropriation of company funds? After all, they're spending money on something that "can't" increase shareholder value!
Right now? Nothing. LOL!
What is wrong with this crowd?
When someone finally in lucky enough to come up with one of the few business models that is actually successfully making money on the Internet everyone has to jumb all over it, and make them out to be an evil empire.
Sidenote: I have to hand it to the makers of eGray. Brilliant pastiche guys. Couldn't have better timing today.
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Cast a Cold Eye
On Life, on Death
Horseman, pass by
--W.B. Yeats' gravestone
... to increasingly find that my very own state is mired in the new-age "Pay-litical" system?
Man, that's depressing.
What is relavant:
law.emory.edu/FEDERAL specifically the need to create a
Declaration of independance for the new borderless world of virtual
reality and the internet.
(quoting T.D. of I. July 4. 1776)
"WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People
to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another,
and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal
Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a
decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should
declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.
WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness -- That
to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving
their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any
Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of
the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in
such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and
Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long
established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and
accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to
suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing
the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses
and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to
reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty,
to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future
Security.
We all know this can be re-written in accord with the spirit of the above,
perhaps even better, but for the scope of the borderless world of Virtual
Reality and the Internet.
Meaning it is our right, our duty to make them go screw themselves.
If Laws are for sale, then when are we going to get a blue light special,
that we little guys can buy?
what i really see is sign that reads "government for sale."
Well I got news for you people. The US isn't the only government that is corrupted, evil, money driven, etc. All the governments are pretty much the same. So grow up already and smell what each and everyone of your governments is doing. Of course the same apply to Americans.
I agree with you that the system is broken, but I disagree with you as to the solution - what we need is not campaign finance reform but rather campaign reform.
Let me lay out my assertions:
1) Supply and Demand - Supply always equals Demand, or rather Supply(price) = Demand(price), so solve for price.
2) Laws cannot significantly change Demand(price), all they can do is change Supply(price). Demand(price) is set by the consumers.
Now, in the case of campaigns, "price" isn't money, rather it is the availability of money. Demand(price) measures how much candidates (a.k.a. the consumers) and political parties are willing to sell favoratism for money, and Supply(price) is how much money donors are willing to give to get that favoritism. The Demand(price) curve is set largely by the political parties, while CFR would only change Supply(price) by making it harder for donors to fork over money.
The idea of CFR is that lowering the money supply, you will somehow make the candidates more responsive to the people. What will ACTUALLY happen is the big spenders will be able to ask for more favors for the same amount of money. They will find a way to funnel the money in - look at what happened when we started regulating "hard money" (money given directly to a candidate for him to use directly) - the big spenders simply invented "soft money" (money given to political parties and political action committees) to get around it. When we started regulating soft money, the big spenders simply started donating valuable services (while claiming the services weren't valuable).
OK, if you accept my premise, then CFR won't work. What would?
Remember, Demand(price) is set by the political parties. A candidate must run for two elections - the primary and the general election. Thus he must spend roughly twice as much money (increasing Demand(price)). Remember that the primary is not defined in the laws governing election - it is purely a party function (ther are laws regulating the primary, but there is no law mandating its existance). In my state (Kansas) you CANNOT vote in the primary unless you are registered with that party - thus I cannot pick a Democrat and a Republican that I like.
And that is how the parties control your options - when you vote in the primary, you can only select for one party, and when the general election comes around, you take the options you are given by each party. And so I assert that the primaries are part of the problem, and should be removed from the system.
Since there is no law creating the primaries, how can we get rid of them? First, do NOT allow the parties to use public facilities for the primaries unless they allow every eligible voter to participate. If they wish to exclude all non-party members, then let them use their own damn machines in their own damn locations!
Second, do not allow the parties to ask anything other than "Are you eligible to vote in this district?" Don't let them see if I am a registered Republican or Democrat. It's none of their damn business!
These two steps would greatly de-emphasize the importance of the political parties and their primaries (which is WHY you will never hear a Republican nor Democrat offering this idea up). It would lower the bar for independants, and it would remove a great deal of the cost of getting elected (lowering Demand(price)).
Next, how do we insure that the general election is more responsive to the people?
Binding None Of The Above
Require that for every race, one entry on the ballot be "None Of The Above", and that if there is no plurality (no candidate gets more votes than the others) or if NOTA gets the plurality, then all candidates in that race are disqualified from running for that office this term (that's the "binding" part).
I'd require the second election to happen within 1 month of the first - that way they cannot stall for time.
Consider the last US presidental election. Many of the people who voted for (Bush|Gore) were really voting against (Gore|Bush). Even within their own parties many people said "I really don't like (Bush|Gore), but I won't vote for (Gore|Bush), and I won't throw my vote away". Now, if one of the entries had been BNOTA, how would YOU have voted? I assert that we would have disqualified both Bush and Gore.
Now, some people have said "Yes, but then we might NEVER elect someone". I don't think so - the political parties aren't stupid. Again, consider the last presidential election: Had BNOTA been the law of the land, the Democrats would have said "Yes, he's the incumbent VP, but people don't like him. If the Republicans run anybody worth a damn they will win, and if they run Bush, then NOBODY wins. We'd better run somebody people will like." The Republicans would have reasoned simillarly.
Also, BNOTA makes it easier for third parties to come in. Let's say both the Republicans and the Democrats had run Bush/Gore. Individuals like Nader could have sat back and NOT entered the first race. Instead, they could have spent their efforts convicing people to vote NOTA. When Bush and Gore were knocked out, THEN they enter and campaign. Meanwhile the big parties are scrambling to get another set of candidates ready.
Now, back to the Demand(price) curve -when you have only a month to run your campaign, you are limited in what you can do - there's only so much ad time on the air, so many events you can go to, so many HOURS until the election. A smaller party can blitz just as effectively as a big one.
OK, that's my opinion. If you've read down this far, please think about it before hitting that reply button.
www.eFax.com are spammers
Our privacy rights are being bought and sold
with money.
Our civil liberties are slowly eroding because
of money.
My favorite show is cancelled because of money.
The Internet is getting ruined because of money.
Politicians are bought and sold with money.
Consumers have less choice in the marketplace
because of wait for it............ money.
I'd go on, but I wouldn't want to become a
"person of interest" to anyone.
It feels like the world is slowly turning into
something from a pulp novel. Hopefully one of
those nice drug companies will come up with a
pill that will make us all good consumers, and
blind to what's going on. I'd be the first in
line to test it out.
The most important thing any republican needs to know.
Yeah, go after them real hard, all right.... like with a rifle.
-- Jim
The country is a basket case. Get out before it implodes on you.
Why is this not considered a bribe? An even better question - why are the politicians in question not being prosecuted for it. You'd think stuff like this would be illegal.
-- Jim
If you're hiding information, then you're probably a terrorist anyway!
</sarcasm>
Let's have American campaign finance reform, for the sake of the world.
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How much longer is it going to be before the American people stop putting up with this crap. The corporations aren't the ones voting after all. It boggles the mind that we don't have people stepping and saying "I'm going to represent my constituents, not my corporations!"
It's just depressing that people have lost so much faith in politics that they just vote for the person with the most ads on TV. Even though those are pretty much guaranteed to be the candidates receiving the most from special interest groups.
I just keep hoping that someday the American people will get fed up, take a stand, and do something about this corruption before it's too late.
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The way to keep politicians from being bought by businesses is to prevent government from regulating businesses. When businesses have nothing to gain by buying off politicians, they'll have no reason to do so.
Also, what's the big problem here? If you provide a company with information, then AS LONG AS THEY DON'T INDICATE OTHERWISE they have every right to do as they please with that information. If you don't like what they do, guess what--you're free not to deal with that company!
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Big companies want to fuck with us simply to make money.
When has that ever happened before?
It's true, if products are going to spend your money swaying politics, you should think about patroning the products that will spend your money on issues you agree with.
"I'm not sure if we should applaud these folks for voting their mind or treat them as a pariah for taking the cash then not delivering the goods."
The idea that contributions to a campain deserve somthing in return is an extremly faulty one (all be it prevelant). If somone gives you a million dollars to advance your campain it means at face value they believe in your campain stance and want you elected.
Now sure, there obviously is an underlying idea of bribes and of mutual back scratching, and that if such a thing isn't done then next time around maybe your oponent will be more open to the donator's position.
But all that only comes second to the fact that it *is* a donation to a campain, and can not be anything more.
If somone offers you $1000, no strings attached, but you know they want you to feel obligated to them none the less, then even if you take the money you don't owe them anything.
Does this shock you? These are the people who said money is speech and corporations have the same rights as people. Ain't radical libertarian Randian capitalism great?!?!?!
All hail Bush! The Maximum Leader For Life!
At least at the federal level....
President: chosen by a vote of confidence by each state legislature. Can serve one 5 year term and must be a military veteran.
Senate: chosen by state legislatures again, can serve up to 3 3 year terms
House of Representatives: chosen at random similar to jury duty from the part of the population of a state never convicted of a felony. Term: 1 year.
Before any bill goes to the President for signing a "Constitutional Court" must read it and vote on its constitutionality. Any act of corruption could be summarily punishable by the US Supreme Court if it makes a constitutionality ruling. Any lobbyist and his/her financial backers found to have been involved would receive the maximum penalty the law provides without any appeal. The message: if you aid and abet government corruption you will be punished VERY severely.
The fundamental flaws in democracy are that (a) it legitimizes any action a politician may take in the eyes of said politician if he/she wins by a strong majority, (b) it gives the majority the illusion that it has any moral authority by sheer fact of being a majority and (c) it establishes a political aristocracy that can't relate to either its working class our bourgeoise constituents if it tried. How many think the DMCA would have been passed if Joe Blow down the street was chosen at random to be the next rep for his district and then was asked to draft a law that would make his little Johnny or Suzy a multiple felon? Hint: it probably wouldn't happen and the lobbyist would probably have gotten a black eye just for asking for such a thing.
I stopped believing in democracy the moment that I realized it's natural conclusion. As Peikoff put it, the face of democracy is the execution of Socrates.
Much of the lobbying involved buying meals, hosting parties or providing favors for politicians and their staffs, ranging from business lunches and dinners all the way to the $24,078 golf game in Santa Cruz that lobbyists for the American Electronics Association last year provided a group of legislative aides.
Perhaps politicians should be required to purchase their own fricken lunches and banned from constituant-backed parties. Then again, such legislation often borders on intrusions into personal freedoms.
BTW, why can't they put that bill up to vote? You only need a million signitures in CA for such. IOW, bypass the greedbags in the state capital by putting it on the ballot as a "proposition", as they are known in CA.
It would be interesting to see what kind of "lobbying" the companies do in TV ads. They have been known to confuse and bomboozle voters also. I remember the Gerymandering compaign where they showed bubbling chemical polutants in the ad when the proposition had just about zilch to due with polution.
Table-ized A.I.
I would scream it from the rooftops if I felt it would do any good: CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM!
It would do harm, not good. There are two types of campaign finance reform:
1. Reform where the only limits are on financial donations to political campaigns, and donors can still purchase advertising for candidates or issues themselves. This could be called, "ineffectual reform", or even "counterproductive reform" if it's effect is simply to shut out the voice of people who could previously have pooled their efforts in lobbying groups but who are not wealthy enough to buy a single advertisement.
2. Reform where people are restricted as to what amount or what venues of political speech they can purchase with their own money. This is called "unconstitutional reform", and moreover will simply ensure that elections get decided by the news media instead of by political organizations and other industries.
I'm a Democrat, but if McCain had been on the ballot I would have voted for him in a heartbeat.
In that case, I suggest screaming for a different kind of reform, election method reform. Plurality voting is designed to force all voters to pick between two parties, and so ensures that the most important factor in an election is the party apparatus and it's funding. Anyone succeeding in the Democrat or Republican ranks has already been "bought", so if you want candidates who haven't to be electable then we need a fairer way to run elections.
(* I am beginning to believe that corruption is the Achille's heel of democracy. South American nations are getting very disenchanated with their own experiements in democracy for this very reason... *)
But replacing it with a dictatorship is hardly a fix. You simply trade a system ran by 50 percent thugs and cronnies to one run by 100 percent thugs and cronnies. A dictatorship is only a "fix" by being able to hide the problems they create (for a while).
Like Churchill said, "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all others".
(* I would scream it from the rooftops if I felt it would do any good: CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM! *)
I don't think it would help much.
First of all, only the rich would be able to run.
Second, the "contributions" move progressively into more and more indirectness. If you ban *all* contributions to politicians, then the influence seekers will simply start funding ads that are favorable to your election positions.
For example, if you are not allowed to give money to the governer nor run ads for the governer, then you simply run ads that support the *policies* that he/she also supports. This will help the governer's re-election.
Elections are a relative thing. Even though supporting policies is not as strong as direct politician support, the other side has the same handicap. Thus, the *relative* influence will remain pretty much the same.
The only way you can ban such policy-supportive ads is to ban free speech by coorporations, and that will NEVER fly in the USA.
By allowing free speech, you allow those who can shout the loudest to speak the most, and those with money can yell louder/more.
However, I would like to try compaign finance reform just to see how it works out. Sometimes you just have to experiment to know what works and what doesn't. I doubt it will work, but realize I might be wrong.
Table-ized A.I.
I've been asked about three times as I've exited the grocery store if I'm a registered voter. "Are you freaking kidding?" I'd ask myself. It's just one more piece of information in all the wrong hands.
Each elected official must take a vow of poverty.
"How can I help it that Power likes to walk on crooked legs?"
-- Frederich Nietzsche,
"Also Sprach Zarathustra"
C|N>K
Vote for anyone else.. get the message across.
Or better, start the 'slashdot party'!
In the late '80s the Supreme Court ruled, in effect, "Money = Speech" as a first amendment right.
The were patently wrong -- I've never seen money say a thing. I have only seen it amplify what someone else was saying. Oddly, I doubt the Supreme Court would agree that everyone has a right to unrestricted use of a bull horn.
None the less, that was the ruling. Now, neither Congress, nor the states, are allowed to pass any law limiting any use of money for political gain.
What is really sad is that all the politicos spend large sums of money to
maintain their books on paper with teams of accountants, rather than having
one or two staff members keep it all in something like QuickBooks, which
would be much cheaper.
Their rationale? This way, they can correctly state that it would cost a lot
of money to transfer their books into some electronically accessible form.
The antidote for misuse of freedom of speech is more freedom of speech.
-- Molly Ivins
I feel sorry for every working human.
I didn't use the preview button, so get over it!!!!
Mike
It was the Supreme Court's birthday present to the Nation in 1976.
In 1776 a small band of men created a nation, in 1976 another small band destroyed it.
Why should the person with $100,000 has less of a say than a person with $10.00? SCOTUS was right in saying the money is speech. There is an awful lot of handwringing done on this board concerning campiagn reform, but guess what? Just such a law was passed, and chances are it will make the system worse not better. Money is only an equalizer, just as the internet is. I would rather have 10 people with $100,000 trying influence legislation than 100,000 people with $10. Why do you think this country has some of the most constrictive enviromental laws in the world? Is it because to 10 people with $100,000 had a say? No, it's because the 100,000 people with $10 had their way. And you don't see the 10 people saying the system is corrupt. They are starting new fights, as they should and as you should. You don't like the money that flows into politics? Organize against it, but if you lose, stop crying the system is corrupt. You fought the battle, you lost. Move on or start a new fight. Do yourself a great favor. Chuck the commie politics and come back into the fold. Move the system where you want it to go. Stop saying to us about how corrupt the system is. Just becuase you lose doesn't mean you don't have a voice.
Dawn of the Dead
I've given up on the assumption the normal
people have any say in how companies treat
people. As for privacy, I've taken it into
my own hands, somewhat...
I never give out my home address.
For mail/correspondence/address, I use an MBE
box, up the road. (and no, MBE does not
have my home address either -- no one does
except my landlord.
I cancelled my phone, and only use my cell phone
now. ATT has seemed faithful at not sharing
the number.
Spamassassin and Junkfilter in series do a
remarkable job.
I get a new SafeWay club card with fake info
every time I shop there, and throw it away when I
walk out. (1 min, $5-$10 savings, no
problem)
I blatantly lie about my address and personal
information whenever people ask me.
There are several ranges of SSN's that are used
for gov't protection and for id protection w/ psychiatric
patients that appear normal to most software
checkers. I use those often for places that ask
for SSN, yet should have no reason to run a
credit check.
I have my credit report reviewed twice a year for
bogus crap and get it fixed.
plus probably other stuff I can't think of...
Like they always say.... MONEY TALKS and BULLSHIT WALKS.... (As well as privacy).
FLAMEBAIT!? you cant handle the truth!:)
I'm going to guess that you aren't American, and the moderator is...
1) Allow contributions only from individuals who are eligible to vote for the candidate or on the issue.
2) Limit the size of those individual contributions.
3) Prohibit donations of "services" (including advertising). All money and personal volunteering must be supplied by eligible individuals.
In other words, all Senate campaigns would be financed entirely by adult citizens living in the candidate's own district. PACs could only give money collected from citizens within that district. Phone-callers, leaflet hander-outers and other campaign workers would have to live in the district, etc. Outside entities could not sponsor "public service" advertising related to the campaign.
The media restrictions necessary to implement these rules would be attacked as limits on freedom of speech, but they would really be limits on buying air time. Defining freedom of speech as the freedom to buy the most air time is the key hack that has allowed PACs and others to beat the system, turning democracy into a system of legalized bribery. Gigantic sums of money and sophisticated psychological advertising are not what the framers of the Constitution meant by freedom of speech. Scoping campaign finance would allow democracy to function as originally designed, rather than in its present hacked form.
Run for Congress. Do it now!
"Your superior intellect is no match for our puny weapons!"
I would rather have 10 people with $100,000 trying influence legislation than 100,000 people with $10.
Ha! Caught you, troll!
I just came up with a better idea that simplifies the whole process. $1 per vote, you go to the voting booth, and just buy as many votes as you can afford. Imagine all the money that will be saved on campaign advertising. This method is much more direct, produces the same results and eliminates many cost overheads.
Here in Minnesota, you can vote in the primary for any party, so long as you are eligible to vote (with same-day registration that's usually not difficult), and only vote in one party's primary.
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