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Tom's Hardware Review of Yamaha CRW F1
Tremblay99 writes "Tom's Hardware has a review of the Yamaha CRW F1 CD burner. Not interested, you say? Well, it can burn images on the media side of a CD. While it's not the fastest burner around, it can do CD-RWs at 24x. Not bad at all."
What will i do with a printed image on the media side?!? stick my CD KEY's on it???
I realize that neither side of the controversy is interested in a moderate or centrist view... but it does seem to me that IF you had digital restrictions management that allowed bit-for-bit digital copies and imposed no restrictions at all on what you could copy... but restricted copying SPEED to about 2X realtime... you'd have something very reasonable.
(The point is to duplicate the sort of porous protection copyrights have always had, in which fair-use and casual personal copying is easy, but large-scale commercial piracy is difficult--and is based, not on technical mechanisms, but on the relationship between the value of the unauthorized copies and the cost and practicality of enforcement).
Yes, yes, yes, I know, the DRM opponents (the side I'm on, mostly. I'm an EFF member, BTW. Are you?) would never trust that a DRM scheme, once in place, would ever be limited to ANYTHING reasonable. And I can think of various ways of evading the intent of the speed restriction.
Just a thought.
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Either the industry has hit a new low, or I'm the only one planning to do this... That is until I posted it here on "perv"dot and all you people plan to follow suit.
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"What will i do with a printed image on the media side?!?"
You must be new here.
The answer is: pr0n
Talisman
"Study your math, kids. Key to the universe." -The Archangel Gabriel
Why have a 'media side' at all? Why not have data on both sides of a CD?
-- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
I am very suprised that this is not mentioned in the article but this technology is almost completely useless. The Disk T@2 can only be put on a area with no data. So maybe if you are copying 100MB of mp3's to a cd you could add a bit of text but if you burn more than 300MB or so there is not enough room to put the image. Personally I can't remember the last time I burned a disk with under 500mb on it so this is really a pretty useless feature, however cool I thought it would be at first before I did some research.
Pithy, yet ultimately meaningless, phrase expressed with gusto!
For all I care the burner could suck... now you can make better looking coasters!
"I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots." -George H.W. Bush
I can imagine some creative vendor using this technology to burn bar codes (or other non-standard data) of crypt keys on CDs. The software would then verify the key data existed and allow the protected content to be accessed.
there are 3 kinds of people:
* those who can count
* those who can't
Finally, a permanent place to write down the serial!
> You've gotta sin to get saved.
If it allows you to burn pits and lands arbitarily, surely you could write data in analogue laserdisc format to CD-R?
:-).
Think how useful it would be - commercials for local TV stations could be put on CD-R. I know you can do that with recordable DVD, or just using an MPEG stream on CD-R, but this would be cheap and cost effective, assuming that the local TV station had a laserdisc player.
Admittedly you would only get about 10 minutes of laserdisc video on a standard CD-R, but it would be really cool
My chief problem with CDRs is that you can't use a hole punch to make the disk double-sided.
Wake me up when I can burn data on the image side.
Slashdot? Oh, I just read it for the articles.
I just installed one of these drives last night.
;)
It's pretty fast, and the disk tattoo feature is really neat. I paid $180 at CDW for it. The grey(blue/whatever)scale gradients are sufficient to get a lot of detail. The Nero software will automatically thottle down the speed if the media can't handle the burn rate you select. Useful feature, imo.
And yes, you can burn porn images. I have one disc burned with 7 boob pix around it that I plan to give to a friend and tell him it's a CD full of porn.
True the image writing on the CD is mainly eye candy. But the other features that the CRW-F1 support are the reason I purchased one.
* CAV 44X max CD-R recording
* CAV* Ultra Speed 24X max CD-RW recording
* CAV 44X CD reading
* 44X max digital audio extraction
* IDE interface
* 8MB buffer memory
* Safe Burn technology
* Optimum Write Speed Control technology
* New YDC132-V controller
* Supports overburn
* Supports blank CDs of 80, 90 and 99 minutes
* Supports the DAO RAW mode
* Mount Rainier-compatible
* Advanced Audio Master Quality Recording technology
* DiscT@2 technology
* CD-RW Audio Track Edit
* Ahead Nero Burning Rom 5.5 and InCD software
Oh...And a cool blue LED
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If you made coasters out of some CD's and don't have the heart to toss them, you could always put numbers along the edge and make inexpensive CD clocks for your friends and family ;-)
The truth shall set you free!
It just accured to me that these "printed images" on the rest of the free space could be used to copyprotect a cd; (now avalible ) for us plain-users *that is*.
:)*. Maybe someone will start a new opensource project *hehe*
The images gets burned outside the TOC, so when you read (copy) the cd all other info outside the TOC gets left out.
Add a little "protection app" to the cd, make the cd-rom[s] execute the app. Where the apps look "in a certian place" for the right bit burnt in the right places. [Don't forget that you most likely have to encode the data of the cd; so, that only the little app that gets executed upon insertion can read&decode the contet (only IF! it finds the right bits&bytes on the cd)].
And Voul'a a copy protected cd.
*hum* upon more thought, You could do this with a regular cdburner too *you just need someone (or yourself) to code the right app for this certian scheme
I don't claim I know more than I know, and if you know you know more than I know, then by all means, let me know.
cdrecord already supports this technology - browse documentation and search for discopts=, imagefile=. Be sure to prepare 3000x40 image first :)
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