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Casemodding Enterprise Hardware

Anonymous Coward writes "Think your tower case with led fans, a cold cathode and a window is cool? See what this guy did to two Sun Enterprise 15Ks -- a casemod on $1.3 million dollars of hardware! Will mainframes start shipping with light and window options now?"

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  1. I see he followed the ricers lead by Adam+Rightmann · · Score: 4, Funny

    adding fancy neon tubes to anything makes it faster.

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  2. hmmm by mrpuffypants · · Score: 5, Funny

    now i have this urge to mod out the old UNIVAC that I have out back in the garage

    1. Re:hmmm by Jerf · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Dude! That machine looks like it could do 2 gigahertz, easy!"

      "No no... kilohertz..."

      "Whoa..."

      (source, since I don't know much about Univacs. 1905 instructions per second...)

  3. Slashdotted? by mikeplokta · · Score: 4, Funny

    Geez, I wouldn't have thought an E15k could get slashdotted so quickly.

    1. Re:Slashdotted? by Gekko · · Score: 3, Informative

      rm-r.net is a small isp. I doubt a small ISP is using 2Sunfire 15k's and a E10k. Most likely it is the isp of whoever did the case mods, at a different company. Only time will tell.

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    2. Re:Slashdotted? by Gekko · · Score: 2

      I just noticed the sticker thingy, edic, easter dental insurance company. Definaltly would be doing the large type of DB work on Oracle to warrant a few Sun Fire 15K's.

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    3. Re:Slashdotted? by zeroday-bri · · Score: 3, Informative

      it's the fact that apache was running with a maxthread count of 150.. being the site's owner makes you look like a huge idiot in public when you get /.ed.. ;)

      for those of you playing at home: it's not EDIC - you're reading ADIC, the maker of the tape library to the left of the 15k's..

      at any rate, i've upped the thread count over and over, it keeps pegging - i think the limit now is my upstream bandwidth since the load on the machine is negligable.. sorry folks!

  4. already slashdotted....but by Em+Emalb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Damn. I wasn't able to see the page or the pix, but I assume dude voided his warranty on [Dr. Evil]1.3millllion dollars[/Dr. Evil] worth of equipment.

    Yeah, might be cool, but I don't think smart.

    I didn't get to see the page, so flame away if this is dudes personal equipment. Otherwise, Mr. CFO/CIO is gonna be PISSED.

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    1. Re:already slashdotted....but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Go check out a mirror http://mosascii.com/sd/casemod/casemod.htm
      All he did was add lights to the outsides of the cases. If that voids his warranty on his 1.3 million dollar arrays then I for one will never be buying SUN.

  5. Well, my minds made up... by zlowry · · Score: 2, Funny

    I won't be investing 1.3mil in Sun 15ks if they can't survive Slashdot! For that kind of money, I expect it to survive!

  6. Sun is lame... by Max+von+H. · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I mean, for $1.3 Million Sun could at least offer some cosmetic options. Not that it's the kind of stuff people keep in their living room (although...), but if I'd shell out that kind of money for a badass server, I'd want it to look awesome!

    My personal taste would go towards a single colour for the whole array, all red or all blue.

    Cheers,
    max

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    1. Re:Sun is lame... by swordgeek · · Score: 4, Funny

      There's a reason you won't be deciding on major equipment purchases any time soon.

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    2. Re:Sun is lame... by stevarooski · · Score: 2

      What if this guy works for Sun? I didn't see any indication of his employer on the mirror I looked at. With the kind of money being tossed around here and the support costs if something gets broken, this could explain a lot!

      So, perhaps someone at Sun thinks like you do. :)

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    3. Re:Sun is lame... by haggar · · Score: 2

      Have you seen the new Serengeti-class Sun servers? Not as flashy as these, but very sexy nonetheless.

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    4. Re:Sun is lame... by Howie · · Score: 2

      I'm sure I remember reading once that when Cray were still selling the Cray-1 (early-mid-80's?), you could have that in any colour you wanted. It was your $9m after all.

      While sitting at my desk looking into our comms room I've often thought there'd be a market for blinkenlights cards for chassis-based network kit like Cisco 7500, Nortel CVX 1800, PM4's and so on.

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    5. Re:Sun is lame... by ameoba · · Score: 2

      Maybe when the VC money was flowing into all the internet startups (AKA the .com boom), this would've been a good idea; all the flashy lights and custom-looking computer hardware would've really impressed clueless investors. These days, however, it's kinda silly and pointless.

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    6. Re:Sun is lame... by sharkey · · Score: 2

      ...a single colour for the whole array, all red or all blue

      Not me. Red, white and blue for me.

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  7. Looking cool again... by thepoolguy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Remember when machine rooms contained computers that were lined with lots of 'blinken lights'? Think Wargames. Think of the Thinking Machines TM-5. Most computers don't have much in the way of lights on them anymore. All the information in conveyed using a network connection, an LCD or a video output.

    Communication gear is a little better. There is usually a light for each link and data. When there is lots of traffic, the data lights blink furiously.

    Marketing generally doesn't have are product requirements for the coolness factor of a given piece of equipment. They may have indicator requirements (red indicators are vary bad in may places). But sometimes some cool code gets through that uses otherwise unused or idle lights. I remember one vendor who programmed their network switch to have a waterfall pattern on the LEDs of their unused ports. A rack of these devices added some color to an otherwise dull machine room or equipment rack.

    -tpg

    1. Re:Looking cool again... by ErikTheRed · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My friends and I used to refer to this as the HDFL (High-Density Flashing Lights) functionality of a piece of equipment. Nobody on the top floor really wants to admit this, but when The Big Suits of a company take their Important Customers and Media Sycophants on a tour of their Impressive Facilities, they want the totally-cool, ultra-intimidating-looking server room. Not that they'll overtly give you a bigger budget for this (at least in any cases I've been involved with, pun semi-intended), but sneak in a few extra grand to give them a cool-looking server room and watch the love pour in!

      Oh yeah, and this is yet another reason for the embarrasing IT slobs out there to neatly bundle their fucking rat's nest of cables... Show a little pride in your work, dammit!

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    2. Re:Looking cool again... by jhoffoss · · Score: 3, Informative

      Duh, we've all known that "The Machine That Goes PING!" is the most important machine to have around in case your suits pop in.

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    3. Re:Looking cool again... by swankypimp · · Score: 2

      Every IT budget should include an extra $300 per annum for superfluous LEDs and cans of black and metallic silver spray paint. Also, enormous Linux penguin/BSD devil stickers, whichever is more "buzzword-y" at the time.

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    4. Re:Looking cool again... by ces · · Score: 2

      The HP procurve 4000 and 4100 switches have an impressive BLPD ratio, I only wish we'd stuck the coms rack where it is more visible. The suits always seem more impressed with the floor wiring (lots of wires and blinkenlights) closets than with the server room.

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  9. Cool by SparkyTWP · · Score: 2, Funny

    He can watch his machines get slashdotted from the inside now.

  10. He got an extra light, thanks to /. by therealmoose · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now he's got a curious, glowing white light where his CPU was. /.ed to hell and back a few times, it seems.

    1. Re:He got an extra light, thanks to /. by hitzroth · · Score: 2

      This is a 15K. Which CPU?

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  11. Somewhat off topic but.. by fliptout · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is anyone with windowed cases having problems with electromagnetic interference?

    Say you have your CRT right by your window modded case- do you have distorted images on the CRT?

    It just seems to me that i would want my system well shielded :P

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    1. Re:Somewhat off topic but.. by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 2
      From those that I've seen, most people with windows in their towers don't go and put a big CRT next to the window.

      Not because of the EMI, but because they cut a hole in the side of their box to see inside, not hide it behind a monitor. :/

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    2. Re:Somewhat off topic but.. by adolf · · Score: 5, Informative

      CRT monitors are affected more by low-frequency EMI than the RFI computers emit.

      A simple test: Take the lid off of your case, and place it beside the monitor. Nothing strange happens.

      Next, place an AC-operated fan, transformer-based soldering iron, or similar magnetic device next to the monitor, and watchen das blinkenrainbow.

      That said, flat peices of steel (such as that which comprises your case) do very little to counteract low-frequency magnetism, while aluminum does absolutely nothing. Common steel can have some low-freuquency shielding effect if it's curved just so, but that's usually impractical. (there's other stuff, such as Mu-Metal, which is formulated with the specific goal of blocking EMI, and does work quite well. But it's expensive, and hard to find.)

      I have to be careful where I put my Best FerrUPS because the large ferroresonant transformer in it will cause monitors to shake from several feet away.

      Problems with computer-generated RFI generally show up with radio and television. I can't listen to an AM radio anywhere near my apartment with the PCs on, and there's a few FM stations that I can only recieve outside or in the back bedroom, away from the machines.

      My neighbors must hate me for it, as I'm sure it's not much better anywhere in the building. But the 300-pound, heavy-footed woman upstairs has four kids who wake up at 5:30 AM daily, and the people directly beside me have a bad habit of listening to one-note bass lines with their lousy, one-note subwoofer, directly on the other side of the wall behind my desk.

      So, I guess I care a lot less about RFI than I do about proper cooling. Thus, the top of the case is completely absent, allowing all kinds of natural, quiet convection cooling to take place.

    3. Re:Somewhat off topic but.. by FredGray · · Score: 2
      (there's other stuff, such as Mu-Metal, which is formulated with the specific goal of blocking EMI, and does work quite well. But it's expensive, and hard to find.)

      Not so hard to find...we get ours from The Magnetic Shield Corporation.

    4. Re:Somewhat off topic but.. by adolf · · Score: 2

      Uhhhh, some people get better cooling with the case OFF their computer. A lot of older cases (and many not-so-old designs) do not have ducts going to/from the hot spots. The case is seldom part of the nonexistant ducting system. Remove the case, and you HELP ambient air exchange, thus helping your ability to cool. So removing the case is a recommended MOD.

      This isn't a shiney new aluminum Lian-Li, Coolermaster, or stealthly-quiet, duct-filled Dell. There's no Radeon here, no PC2700DDR, no dual-proc Athlon MP. It's an 8-year-old Infotel full-tower AT, with a 350MHz K6-2. With the top off, its trio of 7200RPM IBM Ultrastars, fan-cooled Plextor burner, and CPU all run cooler. The Voodoo3 overclocks better. The DDS-2 streamer acts healthier.

      While I understand that you were just trying to be helpful, I'd like to assure you that your concern is unwarranted.

      I'd also like to ask if you've got anything constructive to add to the topic at hand, which has everything to do with radiation and casemods, and nothing to do with cooling.

  12. Not a big mod... by Junta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Putting lights outside the case, behind the door is not really a case mod. Don't blame him, I sure as hell wouldn't try to really do that kind of stuff to 1.3 million dollars of equipment, and his mod looks fine.

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    1. Re:Not a big mod... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Funny

      True, it's not like he took a hacksaw to the case and put a few windows in *shudders* Still, pretty ballsy... imagine how you might have gone about it
      - You go up to your boss and ask: "Can I stick some of these lights in those new servers?". Boss replies by smacking your head with a 2x4.
      - You stick the lights in and your boss catches you doing it. "What the #*%^$ are you doing to these!?!?". Again, the 2x4 is utilised
      - The boss walks in after you finished and sees a green glow coming from a previously dark cabinet, and calls Sun support in a panic. For making him look the fool, he'll take his 2x4 and make use of it in creative ways that you will not enjoy.

      Plenty of scope here for trouble. And if you have a clueless boss, and God forbid something goes wrong with the machines, he and Sun both will blame your blinkenlights...

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    2. Re:Not a big mod... by eMBee · · Score: 2

      but sun has a computer emiting a green glow:

      the cobalt qube.

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  13. What, no "Type R" sticker? by phillymjs · · Score: 5, Funny

    This guy gets the Too Much Time On His Hands Award of the Week. What's his encore gonna be, a racing stripe on all the Cat-5 cable in the place?

    ~Philly

    1. Re:What, no "Type R" sticker? by hazyshadeofwinter · · Score: 2, Funny

      If he was really smart, he woulda bought the yellow cat5 so it'd already go faster.

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    2. Re:What, no "Type R" sticker? by timeOday · · Score: 5, Funny

      Have you ever read this?

    3. Re:What, no "Type R" sticker? by Nintendork · · Score: 2

      OMG, that's the funniest thing I've ever seen. Even better than riceboypage.

  14. What Foxwoods did... by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 2

    Foxwoods (the casino in CT) runs a lot of P-series IBM gear in their server rooms. Apparently they were upset with the fact that IBM's RS/6000 gear comes in black, IBM being "Big Blue", and all. So, they had every IBM rack sent down to Texas so they could be spraypainted blue, at Foxwoods' cost. Not much of a mod, but a hell of a lot of money (which I'm sure they probably recouped in about 15 minutes from the slot machines alone...)

    - A.P.

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  15. Boring router switchy things by adjuster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The "boring router switchy things" pic appears to show two (2) Cisco Catalyst 6513 chassis with dual-redundant supervisor modules. Yeesh... Depending on the options, there's another $200K in gear right there.

    How can this company be doing well enough to afford this gear, yet be dumb enough to let their people "case mod" the E15K's?

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    1. Re:Boring router switchy things by Chicane-UK · · Score: 2

      I thought the exact same thing.. we have a Catalyst 6509 and I know after we loaded that thing up with a bunch of blades, it had eaten up a fair chunk of the years IT budget. As you say, must be a rich business!

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    2. Re:Boring router switchy things by MaxVlast · · Score: 2

      Yes, but it's still _glueing_cold_cathode_tubes_to_the_front_door.

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    3. Re:Boring router switchy things by Deadstick · · Score: 2, Funny

      >How can this company be doing well enough to afford this gear, yet be dumb enough to let their people "case mod" the E15K's?

      Easy: It's gonna look GREAT on the cover of the annual report.

      rj

    4. Re:Boring router switchy things by afidel · · Score: 2

      I have 20 6509's in my building alone, almost all have redundant supervisor modules with at least on gig module per. They really arent THAT expensive.

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  16. Wow. by mindstrm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not really a case mod, not really warranty voiding.
    He just mounted some neon lights inside the case to add some color.

  17. wow by crumbz · · Score: 2

    now i gotta find a new hobby ;(

  18. Where is order book by sudo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Damn fine idea, It will look good on ours, especially since they have been dimming the lights in the computer room at night.

    Now to convince the boss....

  19. Mmm, coke by pommaq · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good job, now they look like $1.3m soda machines. He might impress me if he modded them to actually dispense soft drinks on demand!

    1. Re:Mmm, coke by Bishop923 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought that was what the TAB key was for?

      *rimshot*

    2. Re:Mmm, coke by G-funk · · Score: 2

      No time for that now, the computer's starting!

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  20. BESM-6... by WetCat · · Score: 3, Informative

    It has had panels, full of neon lamps. You can
    write some words using that lamps by writing an auxillary programs. It had thousands of lamps.
    You may imagine you are at a starship command deck!
    Image is here (old story, b/w photo... :(

    1. Re:BESM-6... by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 3, Funny
      Shit, my mistake -- I meant to mod you "Informative" and it came out "Overrated". Sorry about that; hopefully posting here will undo that.

  21. Huh? by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    I didn't see anything about them being Windows machines... they're ultrasparcs for crying out loud.

    Though I do agree with you on the last point. They make some very fine mice and keyboards.

  22. Anonymous Coward? Why the e-mail address? by fmaxwell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the submitter is an anonymous coward, how come there is a link to an e-mail address of jthomas@poweronemedia.com?

    1. Re:Anonymous Coward? Why the e-mail address? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Damn, you finally caught me. For years, Slashdotters have wondered who Anonymous Coward is. I always covered my tracks and made sure that I could never be traced. But on this fateful day in October 2002, I am finally revealed. :(

    2. Re:Anonymous Coward? Why the e-mail address? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2

      Oh no! Anonymous Coward has been revealed as our mild manner Network Ops guy!

      Please don't do this to the SNAP servers!

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  23. This WILL screw up the warranty! by swordgeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...or at least the service contract I'm assuming they bought.

    I do service contract support for Sun gear, and on the high end stuff they (sun) would definitly have the option of walking away from one of these things on a service call. Personally, I know I'd be tempted to do so.

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    1. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by Large+Green+Mallard · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And keep in mind that companies that by several 1.3 million computers are more than willing to shuck out a few more thousand on lawyers to ensure than that their service contract is honoured ;)

    2. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by swordgeek · · Score: 2

      I visited the link. I saw what he did. I agree that it ain't much, and isn't really a case mod.

      I also said that it WILL violate the service contract, and I say it again.

      Adding anything to a case can affect computers in small ways. Heat production, EM interference, and ventilation blocking. These aren't going to product any significat heat, but are they blocking the airflow ports? Is it on the same power supplies as the 15k?

      Also, if someone does this to their machine, what else have they done? Brought in some used 3rd party memory? Bought a used CPU off of eBay?

      This might not be a problem in and of itself, but it's a good indicator that the computer is NOT one you want to work on, if you can avoid it. Sun feels the same way, and won't let you get away with stuff like this on an Enterprise service contract.

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    3. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by rnd() · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I imagine that's why he used velcro to hold the lamps in place. Before the Sun repair techs get there he can remove all traces of the 'case mod' and nobody will be the wiser.

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    4. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by RedWizzard · · Score: 2

      If Sun encourage their service contractors to aggrivate companies who have bought several million dollars of Sun gear over something like this then I'm selling my shares today.

    5. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by malkavian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hmm..
      Seems to me the guys that bought this hardware are Sun customers that don't mind shelling out a little cash to buy the necessary hardware.
      Putting cold cathode lights on the outside of a case seems to be to be a very poor excuse to get out of a service contract.
      Now, if they'd left cables dangling all over the floor, or had coffee stains all down the front of the box, I'd think differently.
      However, if this comms room is actually a place where customers are shown round, the non-technical would certainly get a blast from seeing all the cases lit up, and it'd be something they remembered. A bit of a plus over all the 'boring' comms rooms that just hum a little. Something to show the investors on a nice day round.
      If they've spent this much on the boxes, I'm damn sure they spent the money to figure out with sun if putting these on invalidated an agreement.
      I'm also pretty sure the guy in question worked out what effect this would have on the boxes.
      If someone turned up to a site where I'd done pretty much the same thing, and an engineer turned round and refused to touch the machine on that basis, I know that the first thing I'd do is call his boss, and be a little peeved.
      And then I'd take it higher.
      If the company in question said they'd not support it, then I'd have a very serious think about who would offer a sensible support package.
      In my days going round the comms rooms, I've seen far far worse setups, and had them supported.
      If you're going to be so picky as to not do something for such a picky reason (hey, the guys who go for cheap memory and processors from Ebay generally don't turn their boxes into showcase pieces like that. They cram what they can quietly into racks and try and make sure nobody sees 'em), then you're on a sure fire way of losing some business. In this day and age, with competition as fierce as it is, I don't think you can afford to do that.
      Personally, I'd see this as someone taking PRIDE in their machines, and as such, I'd rather take is as being a good indicator of one that I would want to work on (as the guys are VERY likely to know all the ins and outs of the server, and it's day to day quirks).
      I honestly don't know where you get your ideas from, but I think you'd be a firm candidate for a 'jobsworth' award where you'd try and get out of doing anything you absolutely didn't have to, just in case it turned out to be hard work.
      If you feel this is just a big, unconsidered flame, then consider. I've done this kind of job in the past, (and moved upwards and onwards), and met many who have done this job also. Some guys are a pleasure to work with, accomodating in most respects (but cut the line at people just being silly arses with things), and some are just cold and trying to weasel out of everything. These days, I go with the companies that offer good service, and decent engineers that actually make a good showing. I drop like hotcakes those that weasel out.
      Before you talk about invalidating the warranty, especially in a high profile place like /. make damn sure you've got the right end of the stick, otherwise you will most definately start giving people the impression (in some cases, the ones that pony up the cash for the gear) that Sun just have stucks up their arses, and are playing the weasel out of it game.
      Bad bad press indeed. And from the Sun techs I've met in the past (quite a few, and from many levels), they'd think this was kind of interesting, and be quite chuffed that people took the pride in their hardware to do this kind of thing.

      Just my tuppence worth.

      Malk.

    6. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by swordgeek · · Score: 2

      Oh, Sun (or whoever) would honour the contract, but they'd also point out that the client violated the contract (rendering it null and void), leaving them with no responsibility.

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    7. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by swordgeek · · Score: 2

      Heh. Excellent post.

      OK, a typical service contract (not just from Sun, from ANYONE!) prohibits adding to or modifying the equipment without Sun's approval. This qualifies.

      HOWEVER, probably 30-40% of systems under contract out there are technically in violation. Sun doesn't care. The client doesn't care. The techs don't care. Everyone is happy. Furthermore, let's make the (fairly safe) assumption that this guy has worked with Sun, has a good rapport with the field techs, etc. etc. In that case, he probably phoned up the field techs, said "hey, I'm going to do this. Any problems?" and the field techs said, "Hell no! Can we come and watch you power it up?" No problem--implicit agreement.

      But those clauses _are_ in there, and they're there to avoid problems like eBay happening again. (You cannot buy a Sunfire 15k without a service contract now, because of how eBay messed up their server farm.)

      All I intended was a cautionary point. I'm not saying that he's likely to get any flak at all from Sun, but on paper--by the legal contract--this will violate his service contract.

      That's all.

      As an aside, the Sun guys are generally great to deal with.

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    8. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by elmegil · · Score: 2, Informative

      Pay no attention to the fool who thinks this violates a contract, until he points out the specific contract clauses that it violates. For the record, I work for Sun providing support too, and can't think of any reason I'd have a problem with this unless the machines specifically started having real problems (if we could trace the problems to the lights, it'd be "remove the lights or no service", but we'd have to prove the lights were a problem first, and I can't think of how they really would be).

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    9. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by tinrobot · · Score: 2

      I can see a casemod voiding the warranty on a $600 Dell, where they have zero margin, but this guy's company paid several *million* dollars for two machines.

      If I were Sun, I'd thank him profusely for the cash and call him sir. If it needs service, turn off the darn lights before opening the door. Sheeesh.

  24. What, no fishtank? by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gee whiz guys, it's not really a mod until you install a fishtank inside $1.3 million in hardware...

    Now THAT would be impressive...

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  25. Link to sun store (reseller link slashdotted) by Gekko · · Score: 2

    Sunfire 15k's (To the best of my knowledge there is no model called an E15k, E10k yes), list at closer to around 1.5 million. Granted no one in there right mind pays list for sun hardware thats why you have an account repersentive, in the case of Sun Fire 15k's you most likely have a team. Anyway that sun reseller is slashdotted so the sun store link is http://store.sun.com/ go to the high end servers.

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  26. Sun Fire 15K Info by Mooset · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't know why the link for the Sun Fire 15K info goes to Nationwide Value Computer (whatever that is) instead of the official Sun site. NVC apparently has no bandwidth, but I'm sure Sun has plenty to spare.

    Here's a link to the official site: http://www.sun.com/servers/highend/sunfire15k/

    1. Re:Sun Fire 15K Info by Gekko · · Score: 2

      I had the same idea, see my post, same time, 2 message id's before you =). Anyway I'm assuming it is one of the many sun resellers, sun resselers are huge in the UK and Eurpoe, where they apperently save you a ton of money. It could also be one of the refurbished sellers. I doubt a refurb would have anything that big though, the biggest thing anysystems (my favorite refurb dealer and where I have picked up a ton of Ultra 1 170e's) has is a E6500.

      Side note anysystem.com doesn't seem to have anymore ugly duckling specials on the Ultra 1 170e's. Damn shame really. They do have a 200 though. I'm also glad to see someone else referr to it propely as a Sun Fire 15k.

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  27. what's next? by squarefish · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hydraulics?

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    1. Re:what's next? by Rhinobird · · Score: 2
      what's next? Hydraulics?
      ...To go with the kryptonte ray?

      As an aside, I think the blue lights work best with the Sun color scheme.
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  28. girlfriend reaction by K. · · Score: 3, Funny

    "They look like *vending machines*."

    Yes, she can verbalise astericks.

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    1. Re:girlfriend reaction by addaon · · Score: 2

      What a coincidence! Mine said "They look like !vending machines!." She's been studying !Kung a bit too long, I guess.

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  29. Tron flashbacks... by MsGeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The glowing blue in particular had the look of "good guy" territory. Can't wait until they get their MCP team up and running...the red neon will make those units look sufficiently evil. Or should I say 3v17? ;-)

    What's the matter with a little flash anyway? It doesn't hurt the machines, it brightens up an otherwise boring looking NOC...jeez, get a little sense of aesthetics, if not humor!

    Sun should seriously look at this becoming standard equipment on their machines. How much would this add to the cost of their hideously expensive hardware anyway? A little style goes a long way...ask Steve Jobs.

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  30. And they should! by ananke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good god, when will those companies understand, that they ought to make their equipment look nice? This could bring them more money, indirectly. Let me illustrate

    1) We buy product X from company Y. We put it in our data center. Company Y got their cash, everything is dandy.

    2) Once in awhile, we have to show off our data center to our . Half of the time, the people who are in charge of giving us money are not very technical. They may understand some concepts of this big box has XXX giga/mega/zilion bytes of storage, etc, but in most cases they are like me looking at an airplane engine: ohhh, look it here, it has something cool attached to another neat thing! Ohh, and this little thing is moving! Neato!. Please bear in mind, that I am not making fun of those people, this is just how things work. When somebody doesn't work in your field, they often will focus on things less important than you would. If something moves or blinks, it catches the eye of a viewer. Heck, when we have to give tours around our data center, people spend most time around the robotic tape library, or the cluster of boxes, where there is lots of blinking lights, and it simply looks neat. Our 15k does not compare.

    3) When those folks, who give us money, see how neat our data center looks, how spiffy things are, they are usually impressed. What follows is: hey, they are doing well. we spent our money well. heck, we may even let them keep their budget, or maybe we'll add more.. Yes folks, the better your data center looks, the better chances of keeping the job :)

    4) Because of the fact that product X looked so nice, we were given the budget to buy more product X's. Company Y profits.

    {God, this made sense in my head when i was thinking, dunno if it makes sense now :)].

    Anyway, I know that appearance does not make that big of a difference to a sys admin. But as a sys admin, I'd like if the product X that performs well, would also look nice. It helps me, when the PR department asks me to give a tour of our data center. [or at least assist in answering the questions, I think they learned enough buzz words by now, that they can give the tours themselves :) ]

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  31. Re:Case Mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    > Dear Boss,
    > You've been wondering what I've been doing for
    > the last two weeks. Go check out the server room
    > and prepare to be impressed.

    That's beautiful.

    You're fired.

    The Boss

  32. Children, pay attention! by da+cog · · Score: 2

    An error occured while loading http://www.rm-r.net/~bri/casemod/:

    Timeout on server
    Timed out while waiting to connect to www.rm-r.net


    The moral of this story is: it's not what's on the outside, but what's inside that matters. :-)

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  33. Uhm.... by CrystalFalcon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, imagine the options!

    "Ok, sir, I hear you're ordering our 2-million-dollar FibreChannel storage server. Would you like that in red, mint green, or silver, sir?"

    1. Re:Uhm.... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2

      Not that silly. I bought my car for the color. Three lots had five cars with the exact same loadoat i was looking for, but they were all too uptight and WASPy in color. I found a bright blue one and shelled out more money because of it (also v. low mileage and perfect interior).

      Of course, the big difference here is that people actually see my car. Most companies bury their mainframe where noone will ever find it, like that alone makes it unhackable.

      When I run a Fortune 500 company, we're going to have a huge bulletproof glass floor in the lobby, which will show the datacenter below. The mainframe will be a giant art deco brown and white unit with a large glowing red dome, a la HARDAC. If that doesn't impress the shareholders, I don't know what will.

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    2. Re:Uhm.... by Hast · · Score: 3, Insightful
      When I run a Fortune 500 company, we're going to have a huge bulletproof glass floor in the lobby, which will show the datacenter below.

      And it'll be great for the frustrated technicians down there when female visitors with skirts check in. (I imagine that their female coworkers will learn rather quickly.)
  34. Re:Huh? - HUH? by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2

    Oh. AmIbad.

  35. This is great to show the administration by bluveinr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While everyone is thinking this guy is gonna loose his job, I bet he gets a lot more IT $$$ than other sys admins. I can't recall the number of times we spent big buck on cutting edge hardware that makes the organization flow smoother, only to get blank stares from administrators who come buy to see what they just spent all that money on. The more blinken lights on hardware, the more the managers feel like it's doing something. Show one of your managers a network closet with the lights low, and see thier eyes light up at all the fascinating lights. It kinda mesmorizes them. The perfect time to ask for more $$ for your department. Expensive IBM/Sun servers suffer from lack of flair big time.

    1. Re:This is great to show the administration by texaport · · Score: 2, Funny

      It just needs a couple of spinning tape reels, randomly changing directions.

  36. Public Datacenters by wakeboard · · Score: 2, Interesting


    A lot of company's I have worked at like to place there data center in a semi-public place. My old building had a large glass window that separated their reception area with from a portion of the data center. Mind you that security was not compromised as all monitors where some one could oversee any pertinent information where not viewable from the reception area. This was a concern that was addressed. This little 'building mod' added a bit of esteem to the office. People who came into the office allways spent at least 10-15 mins looking at the servers becouse the room was just impressive. Like some one mentioned earlier, if a person who is not technically inclined sees a impressive data center it might influence them in some way, and it just looks damn cool.

    You me and every one else on this board would appreciate them at face value, I know the difference between the quality of NETGEAR and CISCO, but most do not. Lights and cosmetics influence a lot of decisions, don't underestimate looks, they do play a big role.

  37. Re:Mirror by hitzroth · · Score: 2

    That last picture just looks... menacing.

    Now, where did I put that winning lottery ticket?

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  38. Whose servers? They must trust this guy a lot... by phorm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This guy must be fairly decent with his servers. It's one of the few personal-served type websites I've seen that haven't gone under with the slashdot barrage.

    He's also got a page crapload of images on the page, which puts more load than a standard 1-2 image HTML page.

    I must ask though, who is his employer? Surely these aren't his own machines (at the quoted x-million each?) unless he's also one rich SOB. The employer must be really trusting in this guy to let him mess with expensive machines like this. I wonder how they'll take the energy bill associated with all those fancy lights

  39. Hehe... by Hilleh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Funny this should come up, but just the other day my friend and I were discussing how we could trick the average person into believing we had a supercomputer. It went like this:
    1) Take 4 server cases.
    2) Weld together.
    3) Liberally apply blinking lights, external fans, and colored cabling.
    4) Set up a 286 in one of the cases.
    5) Write a Basic program to display random 1's and 0's.
    The sad thing is, if I invited almost anyone I know over and said "I'm calculating Pi on my supercomputer here", they would all believe it.

    1. Re:Hehe... by The+Dobber · · Score: 2


      Really wow em, add a couple of old tape reels.

    2. Re:Hehe... by digitalsushi · · Score: 2

      but would one of them pay for a similar one on ebay?

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    3. Re:Hehe... by seanadams.com · · Score: 2

      That's pretty geeky - here's another one:

      My first car was a 2-door Honda Accord. The first thing I did when I got the car was to rip most of the electronics out, and hook up my own circuitry to control everything. I installed an alaram system, added power door locks, and then wired up the lock motors to a microcontroller circuit that would trigger a relay for a few seconds when the car was unlocked twice. The relay would power the window motors, lowering them.

      The kicker was I'd tell people that the car was voice activated. I'd walk up with my hand in my pocket, or the remote tucked in my palm and command "doors open". To everyone's amazement, the windows would roll down right on queue. Then they'd try it, and I'd go on to explain that not only were they voice activated, they also recognized the signature of my voice so that only I could unlock the car.

    4. Re:Hehe... by Jay+Tarbox · · Score: 2, Funny

      Interesting. You would say "doors open" and the windows would roll down? Huh. I wouldn't be impressed by that at all.

    5. Re:Hehe... by sharkey · · Score: 2

      Really wow em, add a couple of old tape reels.

      And a ticker-tape printer.

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  40. Original Mod by MrNovember · · Score: 2

    Well maybe not the Original Mod but it was definitely something they showed people at the Univ. of Wisconsin CS department. They had a Thinking Machines CM-5 with all these cool blinking LEDs. The department tour always included a viewing of this machine.

    Supposedly the LEDs actually represented something. Dunno -- processors working -- error messages -- and so forth.

    It was pretty cool back in the day; I mean it oozed computing power despite the fact that it really wasn't that useful a machine.

  41. dog and..... by ozmodier · · Score: 2, Insightful

    an effective dog and pony show to impress clients. Plain old raised floor hardware sometimes goes unnoticed and an appreciation for the money invested in the equipment needs a little push.

  42. A blatant ripoff of Rogers and Hammerstein by Alien+Being · · Score: 2

    Tape reels spinning and line printers printing
    Warm glowing neon and shiny things glinting
    Stacks of brown punch cards tied up with string
    These are a few of my favorite things

    Dot matrix printers and seven bar segments
    Phone bells and switches and papers with pigments
    Disk drives that shudder and shimmy and sing
    These are a few of my favorite things

    Girls in white lab coats with pocket protectors
    Logic gates made of lights and reflectors
    Heavy equipment suspended with springs
    These are a few of my favorite things

    When the screen blues, when the cell rings
    When I'm feeling sad
    I simply remember my favorite things
    And then I don't feel so bad.

  43. Re:Case Mod by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 2

    Yes. That would be the appropriate response. Nonetheless, I'll send my boss a note and see if we can't lay off one of my coworkers to pay for the modification on a few of our servers. ;)

  44. Re:Whose servers? They must trust this guy a lot.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    What are you kidding?!

    The power bill for lights would be beyond nothing compared to the cost of powering the 15k, not to mention the A/C to cool the damn thing.

  45. Sometimes...... by The+Dobber · · Score: 2

    When I'm feeling a little bit nefarious at work, I'll slap a big sticker on the side of my PC. When I'm contemplating a problem, I'll color the keys on my board with a Sharpie. And for shits-n-giggles, sometimes I arrange my collection of troll dolls on top of the monitor.

    Do these qualify as a case mods?

  46. Blinkenlights factor by hashashin · · Score: 2, Informative
    I concur completely. Just a few days ago I was looking at the much smaller rack we have in our office, and lamenting the low number of blinkenlights there. Just a few green LEDs to indicate power, disk activity, and network activity on each machine.

    Now, in the old days when all of a machine's output was through blinkenlights or line printers, it was important to display more diagnostic information on the machines. Now we have consoles and logs, but maybe we don't watch those as often as we should.

    I think it would be great if boxmakers could give you an option for a blinkenlights panel that told you a little more about the system's state: processor load, memory load, disk capacity would all be nice. I remember the BeBox's great dual-processor load monitor on twin strips of LEDs along either side of the front of the case. I would probably even pay an extra $100 or so for the extra lights (on a $10K server it's a pretty small incremental addition to the price). If I walked past the machine and saw it was heavily loaded when I didn't expect it to be, I could go check it out and see what was going on.

    And if the unused lights just did programmable effects, that would be nice too... it would be a nice, reassuring little "Still here, just waiting for some data to chew on."

    1. Re:Blinkenlights factor by KernelHappy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I guess it depends on the business but sometimes blinkenlights do actuall sell services. When I worked for one of the major providers of EFT services, every customer tour of the data center included bringing the customer into the comm room. Fourty Tandem. IBM and EMC cabinets sitting on a raised floor is about as interesting looking as a warehouse full of watercoolers. But when you take a customer into a room where hundreds of comm lines terminate and cause their panels to blink franticly the customer usually gets that "wow" look. The trip past the actual hardware was necessary because of the layout of the building otherwise I'd be willing to bet the salespeople would have skipped that section.

      If that doesn't impress the customer, sales people have also been known to show customers how the emergency stop button shuts down the data center (actually happened once).

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  47. Re:Jurassic Park by UncleFluffy · · Score: 2

    Do any of you recall those fantastic red LED covered supercomputers in "Jurassic Park"? I saw a photo of them once in an ad, so I know they're real. Anybody know their name?

    Thinking Machines CM-5s.

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  48. Awesome by VirtualWolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The green one especially...it looks like something from a Borg cube, especially when the door is open. :)

  49. Collateral /. damage? by whoppo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ack! I can't get to my server that's sitting on the rack beside bri's machine (rm-r.net). Y'all stop trying to get there for a few minutes so I can retrieve my email.. ok? Thanks :)

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  50. some answers by zeroday-bri · · Score: 5, Informative

    hey all

    seems i've been slashdotted.. (thanks)

    the problem with my site is the fact that i never increased the apache server count, so you guys pegged it and it's been refusing connections all day.. sorry about that.. if i had any idea it was going to be this popular i may have bumped it up :)

    anyhow, obviously the web site isn't running on those 15ks - if you look closely at the pictures, they're not even plugged in yet..

    some answers:

    1. we're not a dot-com..

    2. we just took delivery of the 15k's and the adic 10k and decided something needed to be done to spruce them up..

    3. it was my bosses idea, actually, he paid for it..

    4. we're pretty good friends with sun, i doubt they'll have a problem with it..

    5. calling this a 'casemod' is a bit of a joke, i know it's not modding anything in the true spirit of the "case modder", just velcroing lights to it.. like i'm going to take a dremel to something that costs this much - even we have limits.. so sorry for the bruised egos, folks..

    6. lots of people are taking this far too seriously..

    7. for the network guys - the cisco gear is maxed out, the other blades haven't arrived yet.. the one that's mostly populated will have fiber in the unused areas, the second will be a warm standby copy.. my comment of 'boring' is a dig at the network guy, as this whole thing was meant for my co-workers and close friends, not general consuption..

    8. we plan on putting a camera in the adic to watch the robot..

    9. these machines are incredibly dense, you can see from the picture, so really the only thing we have to work with are the doors.. even if you think it's lame, you have to admit it's pretty cool..

    10. we're still debating about the colors..

    thanks a lot to those of you who get it and think this is fun, since that's all it's intended to be.. it's not a folly of having too much money or a pinhead boss, it's just a bunch of unix dorks having fun before we plug the thing in..

    bri..

    1. Re:some answers by b1t+r0t · · Score: 2
      7. for the network guys - the cisco gear is maxed out, the other blades haven't arrived yet.. the one that's mostly populated will have fiber in the unused areas, the second will be a warm standby copy.. my comment of 'boring' is a dig at the network guy, as this whole thing was meant for my co-workers and close friends, not general consuption..

      So when do you do the case mod for the "boring router switchy things"?

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  51. Convex Exemplar - Last of the Great Blinken-Lights by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2

    Once upon a time, high-end boxes came pre-modded. But, then the cold war ended and high-end box manufacturers could no longer afford extravagances like that. Of those machines of the last generation of blinken-lights, the Convex Exemplar SPP-1000 was the most kickass looking computer system ever designed.

    Check it out
    (As you can see, they were so kick-ass they not only walked on water, they hovered above it!)

    Those yellow-green light-bars that go up the front, over the top and down the back are actually fully programmable individual one-inch lights. These boxes came with code to do all kinds of fancy effects with the blinken-lights, such as a ping-pong effect, or racing dots that went at different speeds depending on the load of the machine.

    Although the pictures only show the base metallic-purple skins, you could order them with one of 20 different color schemes. The Scripps Research Institute got theirs in a very bright red, as you can see.

    Ultimately, Convex got bought by HP and all future designs from that group were exceedingly dull-looking, until finally, just last week, HP laid off a boat-load of the Convex engineers because HP doesn't need technical expertise anymore - they are Microsoft's largest partner!

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  52. why? by Raven42rac · · Score: 2

    why do such a thing, how would that look to the corporate bigwigs when they walk into your server room, and see a ridiculous-looking contraption with blinking lights and windows and sound responsive leds......well I will tell you, they will think that it is wicked awesome

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  53. Sun branded 2x4's by nbvb · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just FWIW, the official Sun-branded 2x4 is Part # 414-1100-01.

    Just check next time you get an Enterprise or Sun Fire server on a pallet ...

    --NBVB

  54. Off-topic by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 2

    Your cat in the sink is a classic.
    A perfect place for a cat I spose, except for the fact it has a tap hovering right over it's head....Ignorance is bliss ;)

  55. Re:woops by CowbertPrime · · Score: 2

    Talk to CmdrTaco about that. It's gotta be a bug in the slashcode, no? (The submission form lets you put in an email address and if you aren't logged in, then you are posting as anonymous coward, but because the display for the first page does a mailto: on the poster's name.)

  56. Re:Jurassic Park by Howie · · Score: 2

    The fat geek who dies told you - they're Connection Machines CM5s. Also seen in a few other movies (I wanted to say wargames, but I don't think it was - it played the part of some other pentagon/norad computer anyway).

    The LEDs are the state for all the processor boards - CM5s used a whole heap of massively parallel microprocessors. Here's a pic of a 512-node one. According to this the processors are Sparcs. I vaguely remember an article in Omni (a long time ago) that said they were with 6502s or Z80s - maybe that was a previous model, or a strange dream.

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  57. Re:Mirror by pshuman · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here is another mirror: http://www2.shuman.org:8082/mirror/www.rm-r.net/~b ri/casemod/

    For now, all the sizes are there. We will see how long that lasts :)

  58. Even the data center management is clueless. by oneiros27 · · Score: 2

    We had to have a forced power outage while they were installing power cutover, so they could service the UPSes in our rather aged datacenter.

    As we had between 2-4 hours that we were going to be down, as we hadn't gotten approval for a maintenance window in over a year, we moved some disk arrays around, replaced out some old sun "Mass Storage" racks [30" wide cabinet, 28RU, single power] for "Expansion Cabinets" [24" wide, 36U, dual powered].

    In the process, we also moved a few systems that were in a rack that was primarily filled with a system going out of production, and cleaned up a signficant chunk of the rats nest of cabling behind these cabinets.

    We were thanked by the data center management for making everything look nicer. [Not placing the systems with redundant power supplies in a rack with redundant power supplies, preventing future downtime for systems, creating more room in the machine room, etc, etc, etc] Hell, we weren't even directly thanked for pulling it off with less than 2 weeks notice, and only losing one system in the process [Sparc Storage Array 200, which had been in service for over 6 years with no signficant downtime]

    Oh...and even more important than looking nice -- it helps if it actually fits through the door, and doesn't cause the floor to buckle.

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  59. Shareholder of Sun THANK YOU! by bjb · · Score: 2
    As I've been carefully watching my 200 shares of Sun Microsystems go down the toilet over the last several months, I've been trying to think how could this great company increase its value? With Linux and cheap commodity x86 hardware becoming more popular in this lousy economy, high-end SPARC systems from Sun just aren't getting purchased as much.

    These people have made the Sun look cooler than the IBM x86 rack, and maybe it'll make the IT managers buy more Sun! Raise my stock value! Make me more money! Woo-hoo!

    Sorry.. had to say it..

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  60. Hardware, schmardware by sharkey · · Score: 2

    I'd like some Enterprise SOFTWARE to work on. In particular, Subcommander T'Pol.

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  61. You're too fast. by vegetablespork · · Score: 2

    I got last post.

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