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Next Generation of Holographic Images

suman28 writes "Imagine being able to view an image from all sides and have it interact with you. Scenes or images pop-out at you and change on the fly and are viewable in full color. Best of all, you don't need head-gear or any wearable device to make this possible. They are generated by a computer with two cameras that track your eye movement and there is a transparent LCD screen between you and the display that makes the pictures come alive. Though it may be a while before this becomes part of our daily lives, it is interesting to see what the kind of research being done on this. "

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  1. here we go... by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 5, Funny

    *insert obligatory 3D pr0n reference here*

    1. Re:here we go... by buswolley · · Score: 4, Funny
      But its the double whamo of 3D Pr0n & Forced feedback gloves.

      With these, you might be doing more inserting than just: * *insert obligatory 3D pr0n reference here*

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  2. Just imagine! by Anonymous+Cowtard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Real-world pop-ups!!! The JOY!

    </sarcasm>

  3. Research, right... by mrgrey · · Score: 5, Funny

    it is interesting to see what the kind of research being done on this. "

    "Research". So that is what pr0n is called now....

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    1. Re:Research, right... by Trogre · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A fact little-known on slashdot, but:
      Not everyone is obsessed with pornography.

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  4. Doritos by name_already_in_use · · Score: 4, Funny

    Imagine the implications for Dorito's.

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  5. Left Thumbs? by thrillbert · · Score: 3, Funny

    after all, millions of video game players would give their left control-pad thumbs...

    I knew there was a reason why other people seemed to be better than I was at Quake. But knowing they had more than one LEFT THUMB makes me realize how handicapped I was in those games...

    Cool technology though.. I guess we are getting to that future we were wondering about 10 years ago..

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    1. Re:Left Thumbs? by gpinzone · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're using a gamepad to play Quake? Uh, there might be another explination. :)

  6. The problem with 3D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    more often than not 3D is distracting rather than engaging. the best way to make use of 3D is in applications where we EXPECT a 3D image.

    when we drive down the street, since everything is behind glass anyway, it sort of reduces the 3d-ness, doesn't it?

    1. Re:The problem with 3D by qwertyphobia · · Score: 4, Informative
      People with only one eye still have depth perception - they just don't posess stereo depth perception.

      There are many different cues that contribute to our perception of depth: stereo, perspective, parallax, overlapping objects, shading and shadows and changes in accommodation and convergence of the eyes.

      Those with one eye lack stereo (the strongest cue), but still have a decent amount of depth perception for surviving in the real world. It is only when attempting to use devices that rely soley on stereo to generate a pseudo-3D image that they have problems.

      See this page for a more detailed discussion.

  7. Buck Rodgers by Syncdata · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It may not be the flying car, but I'm amazed by the technologies that I was convinced not long ago, were decades out on the horizon. Holograms, Cybernetic prosthesis, cheap lasers, and common genetic alteration. Good times. Seriously though, here's to hoping the flying car is next.

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    1. Re:Buck Rodgers by texchanchan · · Score: 5, Funny

      How do helicopters and other personal aircraft _not_ qualify as flying cars?

      Because there's not one in my garage.

  8. The NYU System and multiple users by Hayzeus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder how the NYU system would manage with multiple users? Can the "alternating bars" system be adjusted for more than a single user at a time?

    1. Re:The NYU System and multiple users by ngoy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I was tihnking the same thing but for regular monitors. They already sell those fruity 3D lcd shutter glasses anyways. So if a monitor refreshes at 85 to 120 Hz, you could theoretically show 2 people different screens at 42.5 to 60 Hz by showing each an interleaved screen that was synced to their glasses. So if you could get Quake, UT, etc... to work with a simpler control device, you could have two or more people play with the same system.

      I don't think the computing power is there though to accomadate running the same program twice on the same computer, although really you are just performing the tasks that the programmed AI would do for a character in the game, so maybe giving more manual control isn't a big deal.

      ngoy

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  9. Another impractical "3D device of the future". by raehl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Alright guys, we have 3D that anyone wearing inexpensive, lightwieght glasses can see. I think if we put a special screen between the image and the viewer and add two expensive cameras that must be able to see and track the viewer's eye movements, we will have brought 3D imaging into the future!"

    Poppycock.

    New ways to do 3D rendering are cool, but they're never going to escape the lab unless they do something not otherwise available in a more economical package.

  10. Driving technology by Charlton+Heston · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Still the diffraction pattern from just one high-resolution hologram can easily use up more than a terabyte of data--enough to fill 1,600 compact discs

    This is the kind of technology that pushes the speed of technology forward. Not only will gigantahumongous hard drives be required to hold this data, but extremely large memories, fast processors, and fast video systems will be needed. For a few years now computers have been quite fast enough. The web only needed a certain amount of horsepower, and as much as Microsoft has tried, there really a limit to how bloated and slow IE can be made. The newer chips eat IE for lunch. That's bad news for chipmakers, because it's hard to sell faster computers to customers who are satisfied.

    This technology is not just going to help whoever develops and sells it, it's going to indirectly help everyone. Get ready for the next tech bubble in the next few years - except this time, when Greenspan says the magic words "irrational exhuberance" sell that shit.

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  11. I think, in respect to games, this is progress. by buswolley · · Score: 3, Insightful
    That new visual, physical interfaces need to be devloped inorder for Games to really become interesting.

    For years now we have been playing games in 2D,(ok sometimes shitty 3D) and a controller with several buttons.

    All that has improved, in all these years is graphics quality, and bigger, more-in-depth games. But we continue to use the same interface to the game, therefore all games can be summed into, push this button to do x, push this button to do Y, or combinations etc.. Games have become boring to me.

    But to get real innovation in games, we need interfaces such as this hologram tech, or forced feedback suits etc.

    When I can manipualte a 3D object(like an apple)with my hands and fingers, and I can feel it, spin it etc. That is when games can become really interesting as escapes from reality.

    I know there are people working on these things, and I know that there are quite a few difficulties but, I think only then will Gaming come into its own, ESPECIALly INTERACTIVE GAMING.

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  12. star pr0n? by EngMedic · · Score: 5, Funny

    combining the Windows Messenger popup post with this one, we get:
    [popup] if you want to see the rest of Princess Leia's message, click here![/popup]
    gak.

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  13. Stick this technology by Bobtree · · Score: 5, Interesting

    in the arcades where it belongs!

    Since home game systems have caught up with arcade hardware at low cost, there isn't a sufficient technology advantage to keep arcade gaming advantageous and afloat.

    Serious holographic displays on arcade machines would be fantastic, and home consoles wouldn't be able to touch it for many years since TV/monitor standards are so slow and entrenched.

    Note: please allow 3+ years for development and adoption, and keep your fingers crossed that arcades still exist then.

  14. Re:More than one viewer? by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 3, Funny

    It was designed that way since the majority of people watch porn alone.

  15. I don't like having my eye movement tricked. by handybundler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So do they think that people with 20/20 vision can actually view this for any length of time without casuing major eye strain, vertigous reaction, and any other focusing issue?

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  16. More than one viewer? by sssmashy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The cameras can easily isolate the viewer's bright pupils, enabling them to track the eyes and adjust the location of the shifting stripes so that they always block the image in a way that sustains the stereoscopic effect.

    Sounds wonderful, but one limitation that jumps immediately to mind is that the 3d effect is limited to a single viewer. I was reminded of the scene in "Minority Report" which shows Tom Cruise watching 3d video of his deceased wife, and then the eerie image distorion of the wife as the camera shifts from Cruise's POV to circle behind the projection.

  17. not really by _avs_007 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Even though everything is "behind glass", you are still seeing 3D. Afterall, the glass is transparent, it's not like the glass is "producing" the images...

    Besides, driving down the street, you will want some *depth* perception. What's funky are those prescription windshields... Try being a passenger in one those cars. You almost need to be stoned/drunk to survive that without a migrain.

  18. Super Computing? by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 3, Funny

    churning through 20 terabytes worth of information every second would require extraterrestrial technology Mental note to self: must get more hampsters...

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  19. Research application: proteins and molecules by f97tosc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A lot of research goes into undertanding how proteins and other bio molecules fold and fit together.

    This can be difficult to understand for a researcher that is looking at a flat screen. Also hard disk needs for doing this 3D would not that ridiculous, as the view from different angles can be calculated from scratch based on the chemical composition (rather than stored than having the computer storing the information of each possible angle).

    Tor

  20. Gamer's Paradise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I already play 3d games where I view an image from all sides and it fully interacts with me. Scenes or images, in living colour, pop-out at me and change on the fly. Even better, I can interact with friends in a dynamic playing environment where different, continously moving, fully realized 3d images are viewable by all participants from all possible angles.

    It's called "sports". Get off the couch, fatties.

    1. Re:Gamer's Paradise by syrinx · · Score: 3, Funny

      Next time you interact with orcs, demons, and can shoot people, get back to me, if you're just running and throwing a ball around, don't bother.

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  21. The future is 30 years ago by katarac · · Score: 3, Funny

    Man, they've been doing this kind of stuff since the 70's. Why, I'd bet that everytime me and the gang would be investigating a mystery, some embittered ex-carnival employee, or some crooked investor would use this exact same technology to project a ghost or some other apparition to scare away people who might horn in on his fortune. Oh wait... lines... between fantasy and reality... becoming clearer....forget what I just said.

  22. Clippit running around your desk by texchanchan · · Score: 5, Funny
    Now we can get
    • Little holographic characters (Clippit and his friends)...
      • Geysering out of your computer screen into your personal space
      • Cavorting around on your keyboard singing about Chevrolets or cold drinks or overdue upgrades
      • Acting out tiny love scenes or fight scenes to grab your attention
    • Or a full-sized holographic hand reaching out to hold yours, saying "Would you like suggestions on style? May I recommend the Palatino font?"
    • at which a printer, complete with leather apron, leaps out holding up a proof sheet using YOUR doc's words
    • until a Tyrannosaurus Rex bounds upon the scene and gobbles all the other holograms, only to turn to you and say "Hey, [YOUR NAME], tired of intrusive software? Get NO-Zilla the holo killa! Only $39.95!"


  23. Re:More than one viewer? by f97tosc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sounds wonderful, but one limitation that jumps immediately to mind is that the 3d effect is limited to a single viewer.

    Yes, but is this really that much of a limitation? Obviously for most computer work (or play) there is only one user so then it does not matter. In fact, it could even be an advantage, since the guy next to you on the airplane would not realize that you are watching pr0...er, see your sensitive business documents. For other uses, say family video night, you would have to replace one screen with several of these devices. That would not have to be very expensive, especially not compared to getting one of those enormous TVs that everybody has these days.

    Tor

  24. Minority Report, 3D by serutan · · Score: 3, Funny

    Transparent panel between you and the display... like maybe a Store Window?

    Busty Babe in Store Window: "Hi, [your name], I notice you like walking. How about a pair of Nike PaveHuggers?"
    You: Huh?
    Babe [tracking your eye movement]: Oh, do you like my boobs? Check out my personal website. I just sent the URL to your PDA. [Licks lips] Will I see you later?

  25. Holography stereoscopic 3D by rufusdufus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Holograms do more than simply stereoscopic 3D. A hologram encodes the entire wavefront of the image, not just two positions like 3d goggles or other cheesy steroscopic devices.

    This differences is substantial: the amount of information presented to the eye is vastly larger than simple stereoscopic methods. In a simple stereoscopic image, all objects and surfaces appear to be in the same focus plane. Holographic images essentially gain a 3rd axis of resolution by adding a very large number of focus points in 3 space.

    This also allows for true perspective wherein different viewpoints provide different information. You can 'look behind' objects in a hologram, which you cannot do with steroscopic tricks.

    Thus, true holograms provide a qualitativly better experience over existing 3d methods.

  26. Haven't they learned anything from Trek? by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Holodeks always break down and take over the ship or house with weird characters out of books.

    Stop this stuff now!