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Big Brother Lifetime Award Goes To Microsoft
D4C5CE writes "Microsoft's ceaseless "success" in bringing instability, insecurity and
breaches of privacy as well as a deplorable lack of open standards to
almost Every Desktop on Earth has now earned them an "Oscar" for Data
Leeches, the Lifetime Award for
"outstanding mis-achievement" from the BigBrotherAwards 2002
in Germany. Microsoft's
Data Protection Officer actually attended the ceremony to collect the
prize (probably delighted that unlike the "laureates"
of last year's event in Austria, at least he would not receive live
cockroaches), and this unlucky winner took the opportunity to make some critical
remarks on the company's communications regarding the Windows
Media Player and Digital Restrictions (or, euphemistically, in his words: Rights) Management technologies which he deemed crucial for modern
business models, rather than acknowledging that it's in fact not just the advertising but the approach itself which is fundamentally flawed."
can you say troll?
news for trolls, flamebait that matters. this article is nothing more than a well-crafted troll
Get out the tin-foil, it's getting deep around here.
I love it... another article that's a troll: "instability". By checking out the links, it doesn't look like they have anything at all to do with stability. On top of that, anyone's who's been awake in the past 2-3 years knows that W2K is incredibly stable.
Bad articles are one things, but blatant trolls are another. Who keeps approving these things?
microsoft sends a representative to something that's making fun of them?
track7.org has all kinds of interesting stuff!
Eh? Acknowledging the story is trolling?
I don't read German....but this looked funny..... Translation
You keep going until you die..."Me".
not. jeezus, is the weekend the time when slashdot just goes to utter shit?
Whatever you think of what he (?) said, that Sascha Hanke has a lot of balls!
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Michael's ceaseless "success" in bringing instability, insecurity and breaches of journalistic integrity as well as a deplorable lack of standards to almost Every Desktop on Earth has now earned them an "Ogre" for Pointlessness, the Lifetime Award for "outstanding mis-achievement" from the BigOgreAwards 2002 in Germany. The site's Hype Perpetutation Officer actually attended the ceremony to collect his prize (probably delighted that unlike the "laureates" of last year's event in Austria, at least he would not receive live cockroaches), and this unlucky winner took the opportunity to make some critical remarks on Microsoft's communications regarding the Windows Media Player and Digital Restrictions (or, euphemistically, in his words: Rape) Management technologies which he deemed crucial for open-source business models, rather than acknowledging that in fact it's not just the desktop that sucks in Linux but that the approach itself is fundamentally flawed."
Why read a lousy Google/Altavista translation, when the site has an English version?
Like Digital Freedoms? Then donate to EFF before they're gone.
The description of a Microsoft rep criticizing MS's practices was very interesting. But I can't understand any of this. Would someone who types .de care to translate some of the jucier bits?
"A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing" - Alan Perlis
It has always seemed to me that it's the outdated business models that DRM is meant to protect.
We've probably reached the point at which our considering of MS as the new evil empire may backfire right in our face, as it becomes a good source of advertisement and brand recog.
Do not forget, if you criticize someone, then you're talking about that someone. If you talk enough about that someone, he won't even need PR reps to have a recognized name (or a "brand image" as they say).
Karma cannot be described by words alone.
ROTFLMAO
Leave it to a translation software to translate the English word brother used in a German text as bread ago.
It makes sense. They probably thought it was Brot her. Which could be translated as bread (=Brot) ago (=her), but just as well as gimmi (=her) bread.
***Quis custodiet ipsos custodes***
For you, Win2K may be good. For me, it sucks.
Windows is getting more stable all the time. However, an improvement from 0.01 acceptable to 0.5 acceptable isn't going to impress anyone, even if it's a 50-fold improvement.
You conveniently chose to ignore the other two points, namely:
I choose to remain celibate, like my father and his father before him.
They did the same thing when slashdot and others tried the Refund trick a few years ago as documented in the fine film 'Revolution OS'. They had a table with free coffee and a banner that read 'Microsoft welcomes the Open Source community' (or some such thing). The Theory is very sound, if you duck an issue you get pissed off people, if you at least greet a attack with some grace it defuses the force of the argument. It's social aikido. You just can't punch out someone who offers you coffee....
Sorry about the writing. Robot fingers, you know? Cliff Steele in DOOM PATROL #23
Anyone else read the title and think this was about the women's cable network station Lifetime? I was like, "What are they doing giving a big brother award to Microsoft?", but then my brain was like fart, fart, fart, fart and it totally derailed my train of thought. I had to think up something new about this article and but I did it fast and it wasn't as good... It was kinda, a bummer.
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DRM is like antifreeze, to the MPAA/RIAA it's sweet, to the consumers it's poison.
Obviously in some kinda outer-space moon language or maybe some bastardization of pig-latin. Does someone have the original article before it was h4x0r3d?
He loved Microsoft.
Microsoft wants people to be able to purchase movies online. The spread of Gnutella, Kazaa and the rest has ensured that anyone who attempts to start a busniess model doing this will be immediately undercut by a bunch of pirates who have never created anything in their lives.
DRM is the solution to this problem. Not only that, but DRM solvees this problem without adding any extra problems. Even existing pirated media still works. It does not restrict you in any way that the user does not agree to. If the user totally objects to all the limitations, then he is free not to download a movie.
The problem most definitely was the advertising, or lack thereof. By hiding it in this way, MS imply that there is something fundamentally underhand about their technology.
I thought bashing MS was phase newb-h4x0r go through then get over?
Here's business 101.
If MS windows were not a desirable product why would so many people use it?
Hint: You may blame their shady practices but when it boils down to it people [e.g. the mass horde of end users] just like simple point and click setups. As further proof consider KDE, Gnome and all the other WM out there...
And since when is this news? So what? Some dork l33t-dudez thinks that giving a dis-award to MS will prove a point? How about they post decorating patterns for their parents basement. Seems like they'd know alot about that too!
Tom
Someday, I'll have a real sig.
Heh.
Can you say (-1, Flamebait), kids?
I knew you could.
Funny how we never see stories like this about Linux.
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What good can possible come from such a negative event? This is just childish slander. Lets try to be more constructive in our criticisms and make a good name for ourselves (I mean linux advocates when I say ourselves) instead of spouting this silly nonsense.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Look, making fun of Microsoft is like hating the Yankees. You can't call yourself a baseball fan if you don't live in New York but still like the Yankees. Just saying "They have to be the best, they win all the time, that's why I like them" makes you sound like a twit.
Similarly, statements like "if windows was so bad, then why do so many people choose to use it" doesn't contribute anything to the discussion, and just shows that you're trying to justify your existance in some way or another, and supporting a winning team seems to do it for you. But I'm not here to judge.
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Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum.
They do really evil stuff now, when things are still going very well for the company.
You ain't seen nothing. Just wait until they get desperate.
I wish I were kidding.
I think Windows is largely a desktop OS, regardless of any "Professional" labels MS choose to put on them. Remember that a "profesional" user is far too often someone who knows how to use MS Office and Outlook with zero security awareness.
:-)
And for a desktop OS, Windows XP is sure stable and secure enough for me. Sometimes I have to wonder if an easy-to-use OS makes people lazy and don't care about firewalls, anti-virus software and other obvious security software that are necessary today, especially if you're going to use an Operating System that's by far the most common on the market. Microsoft's responsibility isn't to provide security to prevent us from spreading trojans. Only education can do that.
But don't get me wrong -- I blame MS if they don't have a patch ready before a virus/trojan/whatever is released. But, to use Bugbear as an example, if a patch is released a year ago and someone didn't care to download it, is it then Microsoft's responisiblity to foresee the problem and have a fix when Windows 2000 went retail or the user's responsibility to keep up to date with security patches?
I guess it all boils down to the fact that we're all human... Since Microsoft has a hard time to keep up with exploits from a huge amount of potential hackers due to the OS' wide-spread use and the end users for not keeping up with security software and patches. Perhaps Windows would be much better of as Open Source since it would help with a larger programmer base, but that's of course impossible as long as Bill Gates has something to say.
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
Looks like they are dissing 'The Tick' This was attached to MS defiles NYC with with killer-bee adverts Guys it's THE TICK. So pour me another cup of hot steaming Justice!
Sorry about the writing. Robot fingers, you know? Cliff Steele in DOOM PATROL #23
Me fail English? That unpossible!
Wrong. I work in the MS kernel development world - I have to in order to earn a living, because MS owns the market. I don't dislike MS because I love Linux. I dislike them because of they use brute force tactics and marketing muscle to shove their mediocre product down everyone's throat instead of concentrating on their efforts on producing products of technical superiority.
However I have never seen a linux kernel panic before and do not even know what they look like. I have used linux for 3 years now. I am aware the recent 2.4x series is not as stable as earlier version or other unixies but I use linux as a workstation and not a server.
Now before we state that ms is finally getitng it, I would like to mention how many years it took for ms to make a good industrial OS. Take a wild guess? 2 years? 5 years? 10 years ? 15 years?
Microsoft began NT work with os/2 back in 1985. They invented the early win32api's in windows386 which was later supposed to be added to os/2. IT wasn't untill 1988 when they hired David Cutley that they officially began what is now NT. This is after ms decided to dump os/2. It took 11 years to make it server ready! Thats right! 1988-1999 when w2k came out! Lets see where linux came in 11 years or how long it took Bell labs to make Unix ready for the mini market? The 2.0 kernel was the first server ready kernel. I admit the smp sucked and some of the features might of been lacking but it was stable, 24x7 ready, and fully posix compliant for server use back in 1996. It took linux 5 years. It probably would of been quicker if Linus decided to make seperate stable and development branches earlier. Now lets look at unix. I believe the first commercial versions came out in the mid 1970's if I am correct. 6-7 years before it became 24x7 ready.
My point is that it took ms a decade with full working win32 as well as os/2 code to base work on! I only imagine how long it would take if they had to write NT from scratch without any os/2 code. An admin told me once that the first version of NT would display os/2 errors whenever a problem errupted. Where as in the other projects, all the code was written from scratch. Linus I believe decided to dump all minux code for the first version of linux even though it was used to write it. w2k still needs some work and that is a bad track record. Reward is deserved indeed regardless of how good w2k is currently.
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Why do you think Germany's society is repressive in any way? You mean because Nazis aren't allowed to praise what Hitler did? That's because national socialism got criminalized after World War II (by the Allies, btw.), and this is good. Extreme forces are publically dispised, thus leading to less violence on the streets.
And about the game stuff: of course, certain games are not allowed for kids under 18, but that's only for their protection. And that system is not even that hard compared to e.g. the FCC (are you yet allowed to say "fuck" on the radio?). It's often quite funny to see _American_ musicians interviewed on some TV stations, and when they're shocked when the interviewer says something sexually explicit.
A monkey is doing the real work for me.
How DRM affects the content of Gnutella or FastTrack depends on how content gets onto those networks in the first place
If a lot of people rip their own content and post it on the networks then making it difficult for the average user to do this could have a significant impact on the content offered on these networks.
If, OTOH, most of the files on the networks have their origins in a small handfull of cracking groups DRM will have no effect. These groups can crack the DRM and post the free versions of the media.
Eventually the media industry groups will realize they will make money and market share by offering a superior user experience and data mining the shit out of their userbase.
If there was a single website/network with the entire RIAA back catalogue available in acceptable quality, clearly labled, easy to find, and easy to use formats (I.E. not proprietary) you could see people flocking to it just for the guarantee that they could find what they were looking for without the hassle of lengthy searches yeilding mislabled mangled tracks and dropped downloads.
They will not be ale to compete by offering inconvenient, limited use, overpriced, restrictive media when someone else is offering the equivalent content in a free format and for a free price. A free format and a low price and a much higher quality user experience and content of a guaranteed level of quality is the only way they will win against the P2P market
they could charge actual cost for the downloads and have the system pay for itself. They could charge the cost of people's conscience (I.E. how much can you charge before the free/illegal option looks more attractive?) and turn a profit on the system alone. But this isn't where you make the money... you make the money on processing all the information about user habits to produce music that you know will be popular.
%PopTart releases an album but only tracks 2 and 5 are being downloaded? Cool, slash your Listening Group budget, and fire your image consultants- you already know what your singles are going to be.
For some strange reason that unpromoted band you signed gets people downloading their tracks in every city they play a concert. Maybe you should put them into heavier rotation nationally?
For some other strange reason this other semi-promoted band is heavily downloaded in Splatsville, IL and Goatshed, WY... maybe we should add those spots to the tour they're planning?
You can sell the service of working the data to the artists and albums. THAT is where the real money comes from... direct 1 of seperation from the buying public and the high quality of trending information possible.
Not that the *AAs will understand any of this. They think of DRM as a way to keep people buying CDs and DVDs.
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That's because national socialism got criminalized after World War II (by the Allies, btw.), and this is good. Extreme forces are publically dispised, thus leading to less violence on the streets.
Did you go to the John Ashcroft school of thought police? "We're going to stop you from saying or thinking some things but that's just for your own good."
In the US, you're not allowed to swear or be sexually explicit on public channels but it's not because those thoughts or acts are illegal. There's a big difference. All those things are still allowed on cable, btw.
Mmmm.. Donuts
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There really should be a "-9" checkbox.
"Windows is getting more stable all the time. However, an improvement from 0.01 acceptable to 0.5 acceptable isn't going to impress anyone, even if it's a 50-fold improvement."
It's acceptable when you have an easy to use computer that everything runs on (including hardware).
why do these companies keep forgeting that their business models will prosper if they promote creativity, not restrict it with with all this s**t..
just my thoughts
For the same reason so many people in India drink arsenic tainted wellwater, they feel they have no easy alternative. Public education is the answer here and there. First people need to be made aware of the what they are doing to themselves. Second they need to know alternate sources are available and how to get them. The worse the consequenses the greater the effort should be. For software the alternatives are easy to come by.
Big Brother is just another voice that has recognized how bad M$'s software and licensing has become.
It is apparent that individuals and companies that use M$ trash will suffer. You might enjoy your mail being under the control of others, not being able to listen to anything but RIAA music, spam, continual format purge, and all the other joys of M$ software. Good for you. Others might not.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
...must have been anti-trust law. Assuming that high market share=good products is a pretty dangerous fallacy that big business would very much like you to buy into. You forget anticompetitive business practices and such that keep their market share where it is.
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
You've thought about this a lot haven't you.
You're quite right. DRM is not the best solution, but it seems to be the only *AA approved method. The question remains as to whether it will be consumer approved.
I have a few theories about the RIAA. I believe they believe their own dogma that every downloaded file is a lost sale. I believe they assume that downloaders will download even if there's an alternative legitimate source. I believe that they think that people will illegally upload (via gnutella) all the files they download (from the RIAA).
On the whole, I believe that if you sell people something, they're a lot less likely to want to share it, under the assumption that the people who might want it can get it from the same place that you did. Could it be that people only share files because they feel they owe it to the community for all the files they download? It could be the case. If so, then they'll stop sharing when there's another way to download.
But there's a problem here. Or two problems - Risk and monopolies. Monopolies don't take risks. Their competitors do, but competing with the RIAA on their own music is illegal, and most people ar enot interested in a service that only gives obscure bands.
Hell my win98 box can get 112 hours of uptime, that aint shit. I got nix boxes that have been running for 600 plus days.
Got Code?
Read Judge Jackson's Findings of Fact to figure out why.
As for this tripe:
and also it is worth considering what would happen to the billions in dollars that go to charity every year through microsoft's matching program.
I dont see that many linux companies pouring out like that, unless it is to the EFF or the FSF.
You must be some sort of astroturfing M$ whore to spout that crap. You might as well be saying "Hitler was good for Europe. Imagine Europe without Germany's autobahns.". If M$ hadn't spent the better part of the last two decades actively trying to break any and all non-M$ products it's hard to believe we wouldn't have a better selection of computer products to choose from.
Its time for a Free Hardware Foundation....
PENAROL: Seras eterno como el tiempo y floreceras en cada primavera.
Mod this post up!
It is pathetic that people will mod posts down just because they disagree with what the guy is saying.
Lacking in key area's of freedom. If that is that Nazi stuff is forbidden: the US implemented it here after the war. Now it's the constitution and there is no way they can change that here, 'cause the other countries will freak out.
./ regularly), that 80% of the population wouldn't mind changing the first amendment and that pressfreedom overthere has now come to the point that it doesn't need any censors any more since it has all become self inflicted...
Control of different forms of media. How do you mean? If you mean that we have still stations that are owned by the state, stimulate culture and lack commercials, you're right. Now the question is: is that a bad thing? You'd rather have the common sausage mixed with your normal overdose of commercial brakes?
Now the funny thing is that there is even someone writing this. Why the hell is Germany in any way one of the more repressive societies in the western world? For the moment I will just think that you are an American:
Could you give me just one example where American society could be less repressive than the German, just one?
I mean: every time I come to the States I have the feeling that the land of freedom is actually the land of non-freedom. This feeling has even came to the point that with the current administration I'm really afraid of what is going on there.
Do I need to mention that you guys are freaking out on patents, that you guys invented DRM (Digital rights management, for those who don't read
Oh and in case you missed it: H**ler died more than 50 years ago, and yes we do have microwaves.
Funny is that from this side of the ocean we have the same view on the States as you guys have on us.
I lost two days work (5 GB of data) this morning due to a Windows default setting that corrupts backup files.
I wouldn't entrust a grocery list to Windows.
Hey, my linux box has a SAK too!
Does it do the same thing that MS SAK does?
my
I'm in awe.
While my winshit uptime record is only two weeks, I can honestly say that I've had a Linux system on for a year and my primary server was once on for 9 months.
There were not stopped by "Evil Hackers" or "General Protection Faults" but by power-company downtime.
Just for the hell of it, we tried to install winshit 2k on our server while the internet connection was out last year. The installer kept crashing because of a ram incompatibility that a single kernel parameter fixed in Linux!
If you can show me a version of winshit that is at least as stable as Mac OS X 10.2(Jaguar(Jagwire)) I will literally eat the packaging. If you can show me a version as stable as Linux, then I will not only eat the packaging but also pay the @#$@$#ing $300 for the license fee.
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
You both inadvertently failed to mention the most important point, namely:
Regardless of how much MS improves its products' stability, insecurity, and disrespect for privacy, it's still a monopoly with an inordinate amount of control. The bottom line is that no one would give a lick if MS weren't a monopoly, because we could all use something else.
Understanding that a "benevolent" dictator is still a dictator is a point that many seem to have forgotten.
On behaf of microsoft, i'd like to accept this award. So many people to thank. First, i'd like to thank the invisible flying monkeys working on windows, tirelessly bloating it and inputing more bugs than ever. We couldn't have done it without you. I'd like to thank Balmer for his bizarre style of dance, for constantly keeping us motivated. And the windows development team, whos tireless dedicatiion to ignoring standards, causing blatant security issues, and not testing their work made this all possible. Here at microsoft we have a motto. "Trustworthless computing." We want to lose your trust. And with awards like these and constant support from the community, we think we can do it. Thank you, and and goodnight!
This is not real. It is just a joke. So don't sue me.
The winners of the austrian BBAs were announced today. For those who care: Microsoft did not win a single one, although they were nominated in two categories. All the awards went to companies and public institutions that invaded the privacy of austrian citizens in a much more direct way than Microsoft is able to.
I do think that giving the award to Microsoft was more of a publicity stunt pulled by the organizers of the german event than anything else. Giving them a "lifetime achievement" for things they will likely do in the future does seem a bit out of place.
The BigBrotherAwards are not totally useless. But at the moment they should mainly operate on a national level and raise awareness of existing intrusions into privacy. I don't know if there is an international version of these awards. If such a thing exists, then two years down the line Microsoft might deserve to be honored, but right now it just is a cheap attempt to get some publicity.
In completely unrelated and off-topic news: I just found out that Richard Harris, among a lot of other achievments known as the actor who played Albus Dumbledore in the first two Harry Potter films, died today at the age of 72. Bummer.
Hank! White!
Anyone else notice almost every post has an SD advert at the top.
Did anyone else even care to read past the letters SD?
Mj
BoP is MS's middle name? Would that make them MBoPS? Wasn't that an old Hanson song a few years ago...?
Lack of eloquence does not denote lack of intelligence, though they often coincide.
You said, "The problem most definitely was the advertising, or lack thereof. By hiding it in this way, MS imply that there is something fundamentally underhand about their technology.".
If there is one thing that I have learned about advertising, it is that when a company makes a major change to a product and then misrepresents that change in its advertising, THE CHANGE IS ALMOST CERTAINLY "FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED"!
Think of Ford Pinto exploding gas tanks! Think of a bank using Windows XP for electronic funds transfer!
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So did the robber barons of the 19th century - in amounts that make Gates look like a suburban household donating to the Girl Scouts.
Carnegie-Mellon University, Vanderbilt University. Hell, at one point old John D. Rockefeller owned something like 2 or 3 percent of the entire United States. These guys make Bill Gates and Microsoft look like "Billy G's Corner Lemonade Stand".
BFD. They still earned their "robber baron" label.
And how much did Enron and Arthur Andersen give to charity? Giving to charity is an irrelevant corporate PR behavior designed to make morons like you spend more for a product. And it's doubly irrelevant when the money is obtained in an illegal manner.
It's not even accurate to call MSFT systems and software unstable or insecure anymore. MSFT has it's focus squarely on security these days. What other OS can say that? Like people running Linux don't get hacked? Gimme a break. The linux/BSD wackos where I work hack each other for fun.
... that lets somebody hack your web interface without you even noticing. Good for you. Glad you like it. I'll keep my Linux, thanks. It's not perfect, but it is better - and I don't have to pay an arm and two legs for false security either. Even BillG says that the security is lacking. Of course his front man, Dancing Monkey Boy, probably wouldn't admit it.
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And don't get me started on Dell Hell
"A generation which ignores history has no past and no future." -- Robert Heinlein
Eh. I kinda agree. We're not all that free over here, and we have to make a lot of money to live without going into the red in our checkbooks. Every time I read slashdot I read about something else I'm not allowed to do, and I suddenly remember I don't have the money to change it. It's all the same. If I can ever afford a dvd burner I'm goint to copy my Matrix dvd and give it to a friend just to say that I broke that stupid DMCA law. I'm such a rebel.
And to whoever come up with that stupid 'you people don't do anything original so you can't understand what the authors went through to make that dvd you just ripped' had better think again. I've been a musician for 15 years, a programmer for 5, and I just wrote a pilot episode for a series that George Lucas will never make because a.) he's a selfish prick who doesn't understand that his creation is bigger and more important than he is and b.) he'd be jealous because I write better than he does.
I've been on both sides of the equation for a long time. If I were given the choice of having to force people not to make copies of my work and then not buy it, or not buy it and copy it freely, I'd rather they copied it. I'd rather they listen to/read/run/watch a pirated copy of what I made than pay cash for that crap we've been spoonfed in this country for 30 years.
Wow, that may have to be my last slashdot comment - I'd say it pretty much sums up what I've been trying to get across since I started reading it.
You are all fartheads.
In what way is f.e. SQLServer 'bad software' ?
You say: "Big Brother is just another voice that has recognized how bad M$'s software and licensing has become."
Now, stop crying and tell me, IN WHAT WAY is SQLServer a bad piece of software and IN WHAT WAY is SQLServer f.e. badly licensed, compared to competitors like DB2 and Oracle ?
Ah... the silence is hurting, isn't it?
If you want to talk about what's bad: the moderation on the reactions to the newsposting. You scoring a +4 on an utterly piece of flamebait with words like 'M$ trash'. A great formulation of a non-biased view on the topic, isn't it?
Never underestimate the relief of true separation of Religion and State.
The only MS product currently filled with holes is Internet Explorer. The rest is patched fairly fast and reliably. Please, give me a list of security holes currently in Windows2000 which can't be patched. I'm sure you have a long list of them, since you say:
"[...]most any MS product is shock-full of security holes! "
Also the BoP issue is well documented on your side I'm sure. Why don't you put up a page where we all can see where the issues are and how MS screws customers over?
Never underestimate the relief of true separation of Religion and State.
What's really wrong about forbidding National socialism? Don't answer "that's against free speech", because National socialism is basically promoting genocide, with is morally and ethically just wrong. and by not forbidding it you indirectly promote it.
A monkey is doing the real work for me.
I forgot who said it but, "I may not agree with what a man has to say but I will defend unto death his right to say it!" But I imagine not really you cup of tea, just following orders.
"Why not try doing something called research, asshole? I can find this information in seconds using Google!
Obviously you're a clueless newbie who hasn't the slightest idea blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah"
But I really wanted to answer "That's against free speech." :-)
Seriously, it is against free speech. People often believe certain speech should not be free -- perjury, for example, or religious heresy. The German government includes speech promoting Nazism in the category of speech that should not be free. Would you agree with my characterization of this?
Of course, you haven't said that the wrongness of Nazism is the only reason to forbid it, or that if there are other reasons its wrongness alone is sufficient reason to forbid it. Do you think there are other good reasons?
I think it's safe to say that the widespread condemnation of Germany's actions under Nazism is an important factor. Rhetorical question: What country, once widely reviled for its actions, would not be tempted to simply forbid speech that would be pointed to, every time it occurred, as a sign that the country deserved continuing revilement?
Two factual questions: are people in Germany actively prevented from speaking when the authorities believe their speech will promote Nazism? Or are they simply charged with a crime after they've spoken?
(To me, a prohibition on the Nazi Party implies that the first of those is true.)
More non-rhetorical questions for whoever's interested in answering...
Should everything that's wrong be illegal? Or only some particularly wrong things? Or only some particularly harmful things?
Should it be illegal for someone to say "I don't think genocide is such a bad thing"? Should it be illegal for someone to say "I think people should be allowed to advocate genocide, Nazism, and everything else I believe is harmful, contemptible, or evil"? (OK, that one may have been a little bit rhetorical.)
Should it be wrong, but legal, for someone to say these things?
Does permitting something always indirectly promote it? Or just usually? Or just in a small number of instances?
Should we forbid everything that we don't want to promote? Or just some things?
Questions, questions, so many questions... :-)
Fresh. And re-installed fresh several times trying various theories.
Check your event viewer, and check the System and Application logs to see which service failed.
Done and done and done many times. No failed services. Nothing useful in logs.
If it's a non-critical one, disable it,
I disabled every service that I possibly could. Disabled every driver (leave it to MS to bury that layers deeper). Removed all non-essential cards. Ran video in VGA with generic MS VGA driver. Before you ask, motherboard on HQL approved list, works fine with NT.
or lookup a solution at http://www.eventid.net or http://support.microsoft.com
Spent hours/days there. Tits on a bull. Scoured web for days for tips. Found some. None worked.
I gave up (6 months ago) - it's not worth the effort any more. I have to switch machines to do my Win2k dev work. Life is too short to waste more time on it. Ever the optimist, I was going to try SP3, but not under MS EULA terms. Thanks taking the time, though.
It occurred to me after the post that my wording was misleading. I should have said:
I work on 3rd party kernel-mode driver development for the MS world (or something like that). But hey, I'll bet you felt better for a few minutes. Believe me, you think it's ugly at the top - it's uglier down below. I share your angst.
Actually no-one ever broke the corperate website which was running on linux/apache.
Just wait until you get an IT job and the sales people say they have to have this sales/mis app - and it only runs on IIS/mssql. Then your boss says they need it. Trust me - you'll be purchasing it.
On the plus side when they did notice it was hacked the company who installed it came and fixed it. I never had to touch it.
Another thing about Windows is that the user profile file (NTuser.dat for WinNT) progressively expands over time, which causes a degradation of performance, as this file is continuously accessed by the OS. Eventually after a couple of years the PC becomes so slow, that you are asking your boss for a new PC. Could it be that MS left this bug in their OS, becuase it's in their interest to make users upgrade?
What's really wrong about forbidding capitalism? Don't answer "that's against free speech", because capitalism is basically promoting free markets, with is morally and ethically just wrong. and by not forbidding it you indirectly promote it.
There is no objective test that determines the wrongness of any idea. Which means that if wrongness is a valid criteria for forbidding 'speech', then who decides? The answer, of course, is those in power. Then, frequently anything that might disturb the status quo is wrong.
Is the award implying women aren't half as nosey as men? This is blatant sexism thinking. Women are just as much of intrsion to privacy as guys, and they never get represented!!!
NOTE: I am a 10 year unix admin and I haven't rebooted my win2k workstation in about 4 months and I run about 15 IE windows, 6 SSH for Windows sessions, Exceed, a Voice Mail messaging software that hooks into our corporate voice mail, Simplechat, Screenthemes, Excel, Powerpoint, Word and Access. Oh don't forget Filemaker. Been 4 months since I last rebooted, best I can remember. Oh and I forgot to say, I pull it out of the dock a couple times a week bring it home and VPN in...all without rebooting. Oh and hibernate if I am out of dock to save on power.
I reboot my linux workstation more than I do my win2k workstation. Give that one a little thought.
There it is. "Open Source Hardware" by the "Bangalore Seven" Simputer Trust.
Is that why Opera is able to periodically hijack my mouse and cause me to have to do a 8 minute reboot cycle while wiggling the little critter to keep the processor moving along? Is an application supposed to be able to stop all processing via the mouse driver on a stable OS?
The article isn't trolling, I have problems with 2K's stability all of the time. I certainly wouldn't use the word "incredibly" anywhere near "stable" when referencing W2K, except as follows:
Anyone who thinks Win2K is stable, is incredibly naive.
Obviously, you are comparing to Microsoft's other fine products.