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Keeping Balance with Vibrating Shoes

DrLudicrous writes "The NYTimes (free registration) is running an article that summerizes a forthcoming Physical Review Letters article. The article is about how low amplitude vibrations can help a person better sense when they are off balance. The authors write that they improved the balance of senior citizens by using small vibrations in the floor, making their sense of balance like that of a 25 year old. Apparently, this background noise helps to stimulate the neurons in the feet, making them more susceptible to detecting imbalances."

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  1. Conditioned response? by WilliamsDA · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ivan Pavlov would be proud. :)

    1. Re:Conditioned response? by TrollBurger · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, but just try and get dogs to wear sneakers.

    2. Re:Conditioned response? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hmm...Pavlov...Pavlov...that name rings a bell, somehow...

  2. Bass by Lemmeoutada+Collecti · · Score: 5, Funny

    So all the BASS played in a club is so a drunk can walk around trying to pick up chicks and still stand!

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    1. Re:Bass by Smidge204 · · Score: 5, Funny

      More to the point, senior housing should be built on top of night clubs! A great excuse to visit grandma and grandpa more frequently, too! I'm sure they'll appreciate it!

      =Smidge=

  3. Control of balance? by autocracy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was under the impression balance was primarily controlled by the inner ear... how much of an effect do your feet really have with this?

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    1. Re:Control of balance? by Smidge204 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The inner ear helps keep you HEAD straight, with the fact that anyplace your head goes your body is likely to be not far behind... inner ear problems effect balance because the brain is trying to compensate for movements that aren't really happening.

      Sensations from the feet are required to make sure they stay *under* you, thus helping to keep your head straight as well.

      =Smidge=

    2. Re:Control of balance? by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 5, Informative

      There are a lot of things that effect balance.
      I have Meniere's disease - my vestibular system is faulty... I also have Nystagmus, involuntary eye movement... that causes balance problems.
      I also have reduced peripheral vision in various color ranges. The net result of all of this is that I can walk into a supermarket and the visual field of the aisles, combined with the lighting can send me into a sudden vertigo attack.
      I use my sense of proprioception (body position, etc) to help my balance.
      One of the important parts of therapy to try to deal with this involves having you stand on pillows, etc, to get used to balancing, as the proprioceptive signals from your feet are crucial to your overall sense of body position.
      Other things like head and arm position also have major effects.

      So many things come into play that you never think about until you lose one of the components of balance... then you notice all of the others. It's a big adjustment.

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    3. Re:Control of balance? by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 5, Funny

      thanks :)

      Yes, I'm a superhero. Stumbleboy. My main super power is projectile vomiting. ;)

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    4. Re:Control of balance? by Dog+and+Pony · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, that is true. However, having a slightly unsteady surface (ie vibrating) to walk on "keeps you on your toes", so to speak.

      And that is how this works. On normal, solid and stable ground, the balance system "gets lazy", but by providing subtle shifts in the "ground", you force the balance system to so to speak, concentrate on what it is doing.

  4. New Tech? by dolo666 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The article is about how low amplitude vibrations can help a person better sense when they are off balance.
    I must use this new technology to disrupt Spiderman's Spidey Sense! Bring out the Megalatrogolagolotron!!!

    (mutters to self) It must be his weakness.

  5. Help me... by nzyank · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...I'm standing and can't fall down

  6. 25 year old? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    making their sense of balance like that of a 25 year old

    perhaps they should qualify that with a sober 25 year old...

    1. Re:25 year old? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ohh I heard about sober 25 year olds. In a joke once. Never actually seen one.

  7. Behind the scenes by carlcmc · · Score: 5, Funny
    Researcher 1: Hey, I've got an idea. Get this, we will VIBRATE the floor to see if we can the elderly sure footing!

    Researcher 2: *silence*

    Researcher 1: This has nothing to do with my blind-the-senior project for better visual acuity project!

    1. Re:Behind the scenes by alexburke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Get this, we will VIBRATE the floor to see if we can the elderly sure footing!

      To see if we can the elderly sure footing?

      Huh?

      my blind-the-senior project for better visual acuity project!

      Funded by the Department of Redundancy Department, no doubt?

  8. Fix their vision too! by someguy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Current research is showing that a lot of the problems with the elderly and having accidents - vehicular or otherwise - is strongly correlated with attentional problems that they have. Their functional field of view suffers and, combined with other things is responsible for a lot of their problems.

    So, while this vibrational shoe may have some balance effects, it's only part of the problem that they're fixing.

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  9. Terrific news by doc_traig · · Score: 3


    Now it's actually a Good Thing to crank the stereo at grandma's house. Of course, now that I think about it, it is grandma's house: the old Wallensack really can't get all that loud...

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  10. One for the road... by houseofmore · · Score: 4, Funny

    Balance of a 25 year old eh? I seem to recall spending a fair amount of time staggering around.

    X)

  11. count me out! by Stanley+Feinbaum · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bad balence be damned! When I am a senior citizen I'll be driving around in one of those cool little cart things. Isn't that the whole reason to even grow old?

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  12. side effects ? by tandr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But does it mean that after some time they will get used to it? And have even more problems walking on "just" a floor? Or, like with any stimulators, will they need increasing amplitude/freq over time?

  13. Balance Vs. thresholds by girl_geek_antinomy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This was in New Scientist a fortnight ago (and that on -publication- date)! What a slow pick-up... :)

    Seems it has to be random movement noise because any signal which is both repetitive and apparently irrelevant gets 'ignored' pretty quickly by the brain - after all, there's all kinds of signals coming through all the time like the feeling of your socks on your feet that you're not consciously aware of (though bet you are now, eh?).

    Also, it's not really about balance (which, people are right, is sited in the middle ear primarily) and more to do with thresholds for detection - having random movement / vibration happening anyway means that the body swaying off-balance is likely in one phase to be reinforced by the vibration enough that it goes above threshold and the body realises that there's uneven pressure in the feet and corrects it - neat, no?

    Has anyone else heard about the research into people balancing sticks on their fingertips, and how this has to do with random neuro-muscular noise, but generated by the body instead?

    1. Re:Balance Vs. thresholds by ElJefe · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Has anyone else heard about the research into people balancing sticks on their fingertips, and how this has to do with random neuro-muscular noise, but generated by the body instead?

      I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but it's possible to stabilize a pendulum (e.g., a stick) in an inverted position by vibrating the base (e.g., your hand) rapidly. Here's the first link that I could find on Google. It's been a while since I've dealt with the math, but I think it has something to do with the Mathieu equation from Floquet Theory.
      </math lesson>
  14. It's Optional? by Myriad · · Score: 4, Funny
    When I am a senior citizen I'll be driving around in one of those cool little cart things. Isn't that the whole reason to even grow old?

    I didn't realize that growing old was optional! Cool!

    So, where do I go to tell them "No"?

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  15. Slashdot is feeding trolls by geekguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Combining vibrators and old people in the same article, no good can come of this.

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  16. Re:Possible use for MS patients? by girl_geek_antinomy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's possible, though the nervous problems MS suffers experience are different to those seen in old people. It's likely that something that makes it more likely for an off-balance signal to go above threshold in a normal patient is unlikely to do any harm in MS though.

    Diseases like Parkinson's and Huntingdon's may well be more complicated, though, since they're caused not by problems in the periperhal nervous system but by breakdowns in the systems in the brain that control movment.

  17. Stochastic Resonance by fermion · · Score: 3, Informative
    This appears to be another application Stochastic Resonance in which a very weak signal is enhanced by adding a bit of noise. I guess the vibrations of the floor amplify the 'signal' to the inner ear.

    Nothing new or magical in the theory, but it is a really cool application. Kudos to the researchers.

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  18. California to replace Florida as a place to retire by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 4, Funny

    If shaking the floor makes it easier for old people to get around then does this mean that California will become the new retirement playground for senior citizens?

    California, the state where Quake is more than just a game :-)

  19. Re:Good vibrations by girl_geek_antinomy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Erm.... I don't know where you learnt your sensory neurophysiology...

    Light hitting the back of the eye causes (in the roughest possible terms) a change in electrical potential in the light sensitive cells, which is transmitted down neurons in the optic nerve (as electrical pulses) into the visual cortex of the brain, where it's interpreted in exceptionally clever ways we don't really understand. No vibrations to be seen, though.

  20. iBrator 2 ? by cwis42 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh, I see.
    This is just the next version of the iBrator.

  21. wow, what a mental image... by new+death+barbie · · Score: 4, Funny
    I had a game a long time ago, it was one of those football games where the little plastic men all began to move around the field when you made the field vibrate. Only problem was, they basically just kind of linked arms and went in circles...


    Now I've got a picture in my head of dozens of seniors, linked arm in arm, moving helplessly
    up and down the aisles at Walmart...


    I'm sorry, I cant help it...it's just the way I am.

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  22. stochastic resonance by sanermind · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It isn't the vibrational energy that is stimulating the neurons in the feet. Instead it's the additional quantity of information (that can be conveyed to the brain along aging pathways), by mixing in some noise. It may sound counterintuitive that noise can increase the resolution of a signal, but it makes sense. Imagine a signal is quantized in steps, and a sample could possibly fall between the discretely measurable points of sensitivity, and get lost. By adding noise enough to 'blur' the sample into a range that will always cross one sample boundary, then it will be detected more frequently. Even if it's blurred to cross two or three at a time, the relative activation of the seperate 'sensor nodes' allows an accurate determination of the actual quantity being sampled [given that the sampling resolution sufficiently exceeds the time resolution of changes in the actual value being sampled].
    It's called stochastic ressonance.
    It's used in some analog to digital converters, and in many other places in engineering, it's been used in electron microscopes, in radio telescopes.
    And now, it turns out, it looks like it's used in people! What is really interesting is the question of whether or not the healthy adult body actually has automatic noise generators itself, for precisely this purpose, which may have weakened in the case of the elderly.

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  23. Balance by sakusha · · Score: 5, Informative

    I could sure use some smart shoes or white-noise socks, my sense of balance is destroyed. I had an acoustic neuroma, when they remove it they cut your vestibular nerve in one ear, otherwise you have permanent vertigo. The best way I can explain it, is that my sense of balance is now mono instead of stereo. My doctor said there are three components to balance, pressure feedback through the skin, position feedback from the body and skeleton, and visual feedback. The doc said my sense of balance is now "visually dependent" so I have to be able to see clearly or I can lose my balance. When it's dark or the footing is rough or loose gravel, I stumble around like I'm drunk. This is horribly embarrasing, but more than that, it's a health risk. I took one balance test and barely passed, and I asked what it measured, the physiotherapist said it is to determine if you should use a cane or a walker. Poor scores meant a dramatically higher likelihood of broken arms, legs, and hips from falls, and subsequently, greater mortality.

  24. It had to be said by alexburke · · Score: 3, Funny

    N-n-no, darling, they're for your feet.

    (Sorry.)

  25. Vibrations in the floor by Alsee · · Score: 3, Funny

    Daddy, why is Grandma sitting on the floor and smiling like that?

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