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eBay Customers Targetted by Credit Card Scam
hether writes "Customers of the auction site eBay have been targeted by a site called ebayupdates.com. The site attempts to steal credit card details from eBay's 55 million customers. The SANS Institute Internet Storm Center issued the warning on this one. Info about the scam can be found on the BBC site, CNN, CNet, vnunet, and more.
Funny enough there's no mention of this on the eBay site..."
And I was about to start buying things from ebay. Thank you slashdot...
eBay credit card scams are not new. I've received half a dozen of them in my spambox. Strangely enough, they were all addressed to the email-address I only use for eBay. What a strange coincidence.
While trying to retrieve the URL: http://www.ebayupdates.com/
The following error was encountered:
Unable to determine IP address from host name for www.ebayupdates.com
for this is a third post. BOOYAH!!!
Sounds like they've mentioned it on the website to me.....
This is a well known security procedure - does nobody read anymore?
WHOIS Record:
Domain Name.......... ebayupdates.com
Creation Date........ 2002-12-06
Registration Date.... 2002-12-06
Expiry Date.......... 2003-12-06
Organisation Name.... Tred
Organisation Address. 1742 BOLTON VILLAGE LANE
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. NICEVILLE
Organisation Address. 32578
Organisation Address. FL
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
Admin Name........... Eulalia Bergenthal
Admin Address........ 1742 BOLTON VILLAGE LANE
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ NICEVILLE
Admin Address........ 32578
Admin Address........ FL
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... qspam52@aol.com
Admin Phone.......... 713-552-6332
Admin Fax............
Tech Name............ YahooDomains Techcontact
Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
Tech Address......... 94089
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM
Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096
Tech Fax.............
Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com
Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com
New open source business-model?
1: Write free software.
2: ?
3: Be targetted by Credit Card Scammers.
4: Profit!
I have created a database of people ripped off by these ebay scams. if you think you are one of them, please send your name, address, and credit card number with expiration date to ebayscam@scamalert.com Let's get to the bottom of this scam!
=If life was easy, i would be out of a job=
I could have SWORN this is a repeat but I did not find it.
I did see the Apple scam on eBay but that was a different thing all together. The guy should have been happy he got someone to take the apple off his hands!
Maybe read the article earlier on Google News...oh well.
The information was stolen by getting users to go to a site that LOOKED like an eBay site and get them to give that site the information directly.
Just the usual victimization of the stupid. Most people apparently didn't fall for it and just notified eBay of the scam, and the scamming site was shut down in short order (I believe it's been down at least a couple days now.)
Good to know internet consumers are gradually getting less gullible.
paintball
it's that I wanna steal your shit.
A couple months ago I received an email notifying me that eBay was updating its records and needed me to re-enter my user and credit card information.
The site was at http://www.cgi5-ebay.cc/eBayISAPIdll/signin.html. Obvious to any experienced computer user as a scam.
But since I was sure unsuspecting users may be duped, I decided to do something about it. I contacted the service provider, A Plus (aka Abacus), informed them of the scam, and requested that they shut it down. Within an hour the site was offline.
Too bad I didn't submit this to news wire services. Oh well.
Problem: Credit card theft by a scam artist web site.
/.ing the slimey bastards til their servers cry out for mercy.
/. for using their powers for good instead of evil (this time). Hey, someone start submitting stories with links to riaa.org.
Solution:
Kudos to
There prolly was a week ago when the news broke about it though.. check web-caches and the like. That or edit the story to begin with "You probably already know about this, but..."
Thoughout history, many names have been used to describe those who are on the wrong moral path in life: coward, criminal, fiend, monster, vagrant, lunatic. It's without question that William Scott Lockwood III is all of these things, but these are things that can be forgiven. William Scott Lockwood III's sins run deeper.
In many cultures, the greatest moral offense a man can commit isn't murder, robbery, rape, arson, or even blasphemy. In these cultures, there's a word for someone who is even lower than the murderers and rapists, because he has demonstrated with clear finality his lack of moral character. This one word, never used carelessly, reserved only for the lowest of the low is oathbreaker.
Many societies value personal honor, honesty, and integrity above anything else. People can make mistaks, and still maintain their honor if they take accountability for their actions. But the oathbreaker is the lowest of the low, never to be forgiven, and never to be trusted. This is because he has voluntarily sacrified the only thing that every man brings with him into the world, and the only thing that every man (hopefully) takes with him into the grave: his honor.
When a man's honor is gone, he has nothing.
Ladies and gentlemen, William Scott Lockwood III has nothing. If our society were still built on the concept that a man's word is sacred and that honoring others with the truth is a noble goal, William Scott Lockwood III would be dead right now.
A man's word is his bond, and when he breaks his word, he's no longer a man at all. He's worse than a coward, worse than a liar, and worse than a thief, but he's all these things and more. He's an oathbreaker.
In the past, oathbreakers become nonpersons. They stand below even murderers and thieves. Even beggars would not give or recieve comfort from an oathbreaker. Quite often, they were simply killed outright. Sometimes, they were merely cut off from honest society, trusted by no one, alienated until the day they died. After their death, their families were shunned and distrusted forever, because a man holds in his hand no only his own honor, but the honor of his family as well.
The Lockwood family has no honor left. The Lockwood family has no place in honest society, among civilized humans, because they have no honor, and they are not a part of civilization.
Killing an oathbreaker was considered to be an act of mercy, sending a tortured soul on to final judgement instead of forcing him to live an empty, hollow life.
Maybe it's time that we bring back the practice of killing oathbreakers, and ensuring that their bloodline does not propogate. Maybe a lack of honesty is what's wrong with our society. Maybe that's why everything is falling into chaos around us. When you can't trust a man's word, what basis is there for civilization?
I think upon consideration that you will agree: William Scott Lockwood III is less than a gentlemen, less even than a man, less even than a human, less even than an animal. William Scott Lockwood III is an oathbreaker.
Outside of the core group , there are supporters,
wellwishers, and fellow Vlad haters who share one binding aspect
with us (disdain for Vladinator), but who aren't officially
affiliated with us. Thus, we do not form a "gang" or any other
recognizable command structure.
There many, many people in the world who dislike Lockwood; some
have formed into small groups to work together, but most act as free
agents. We don't really know the identities of many people outside
our core group, nor do we know whether a given person
outside our core group is a free agent or is affiliated
with another group.
These activities are by nature clandestine and solitary, thus we
only work freely with allies we've met in meatspace and can trust
absolutely. I have no idea of the exact number of fellow Vlad-haters
out there (I know it's large), or whether or not any of them have
formed cabals similar to our own, so please don't go lumping us all
together.
Generally, we operate in clusters or "cells" where one member of
one cell is designated as a messenger with a similarly designated
member of another cell. If the designated messenger is discovered,
that individual is "disposed of" and another individual is selected.
In this way, no single cell is aware of how many members are in
any other cell and the only thing known of the membership of other
cells is the mutual identities of the messengers. Each cell is
constructed such that only the messenger from one other cell
is in contact with the messenger of any given cell. Therefore, we
cannot form a "gang" as you call it.
Instead, you would be more correct to refer to us as a "sweeping
cluster of antibodies reacting to a foreign body in order to prevent
it from damaging the host."
Thanks bunches.
From: Ceee Peee
/ 41541/13290&cid=8#8
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] advice?
Date sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:01:38 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0015)
Any advice about what to do about this?:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2001/1/7
(outing anne marie as cp)
I'm just planning to ignore it as it's a score:2
editorial at the bottom of a submission that might not
get accepted anyway. But feel free to mod it down
some more if the mood strikes you. I can cope with
being publicly outed, but I'd rather avoid it all the same.
(This is CP0015)
Hm. That domain isn't on the whitelist for the email address I give out to likely-to-deluge-me-with-spam outfits. Such as ebay. So maybe I got it. Maybe not.
I keep hearing about the "death of email" because of spam. It's really not hard. Pay for a respectable email address and don't give it to *anyone*. Create forwarding addresses that you give out. Apply whitelists to the address(es) you use for commerce. Apply blacklists (or actual spam filters) to the addresses you use for friends, family, etc. Every few weeks I go through the ~1000 emails that got filtered out on the odd chance they're not spam, and delete them. It doesn't take an hour a day - it takes more like an hour a month.
High-speed Road Trip (18.000KPH)
Scott Lockwood whines just to hear himself.
"You know, I'd stay retired if these fools would just find another target."
We did. We had an agreement. We moved on to other things. Scott Lockwood didn't. Scott Lockwood couldn't STAND being left alone. He can't live without negative attention, and he's willing to do whatever it takes to atract it. He had, and still does, have the chance to be left alone FOREVAR, just by shutting the hell up. We gave him once chance, and he flat-out lied to us. We left him alone, and he couldn't stand it, so he started spamming himself all over the Internet and goading us to pay attention to him again.
We put up with it for quite a while, but the frequency and volume of his attention-seeking continued to increase. Well, if he wants attention, he'll get it.
Scott Lockwood, it's all up to you. You can stop it any time you like. You know that VladeKua5y is doomed. Stop fucking yourself over. You can end it any time, if you have willpower and honest. The problem is that you don't. You have no morality as a person.
Is this Scott Lockwood? No, Scott Lockwood is much wider than that. Is this Scott Lockwood, or is this? There are so many that seem to fit him, I just can't decide.
Oh well. On to the future. There's much to be done, and little time to do it.
Hrm, seems like the friendly mac people will have their hands full now that it's widespread... Maybe we should let cnn know that the mac users can track down their fiend and get them intel and stuff.
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http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/12/
01:36AM up 426 days, 2:46, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.11, 0.05
Citing intellectual property violations, Amazon.com quickly filed a lawsuit in reaction to ebayupdate.com's new website.
"The one-click credit card number stealing algorithm employed by ebayupdates.com is a clear violation of amazon.com's one click transaction patent," said amazon.com CEO Jeff Bezos in a statement. "Let this be a message to other sites like ebayupdates.com: Amazon.com will not tolerate one-click theft."
When reached for comment, an amazon.com spokeswoman clarified that amazon.com would not take action against a process that used at least two mouse clicks.
paintball
From: cptroll
d =2755) so I make up an
B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
t .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0028)
I'm trying to give george his account back
(http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&ci
appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
prick he is, sends me this email:
>From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
>17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
[snip]
>X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
>Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
>MIME-Version: Ê1.0
>Content-Type: Êmultipart/alternative;
>boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C03D18.DD858
>X-MSMail-Priority: ÊNormal X-Mailer: ÊMicrosoft Outlook Express
>5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: ÊProduced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
>Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
>
>okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?
Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postne
If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.
(This is CP0028)
Adequacy Still Sucks Ass!
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] New Debian advertisements, by me!
Date sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:55:53 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0025)
Hey, you missed part of her armpit. She's a statue with a living,
breathing armpit. I'm trying to find some irony there, but I can't.
Otherwise, jolly good show.
Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:
>I've done some unofficial new advertisements for Debian Linux.
>http://users.ipa.net/~cmcpher/newad.jpg
(This is CP0025)
Mr. "Quick Star" and Mr. Fake "Scott Lockwood", I have a message for you: get ready for a world of hurt. The first lesson is free.
Have you ever seen the movies Where the Heart Is and Anywhere but Here starring Natalie Portman? How about the classic Meg Ryan romantic comedies When Harry Met Sally and Sleepless in Seattle? Well, THAT'S the style of Martial Arts I practice. I've perfected the ruthless and efficient OLSEN TWINS FASH-SLAP STANCE!
How about the the classic Sci-Fi cult hits Plan 9 from Outer Space and The Rocky Horror Picture Show? Well, I know the martial arts from THOSE movies too! Let me show you THE PATHETIC TRANSVESTITE ALIEN STANCE!
I've also recently started to learn the martial arts from several new movies such as Jackass: the Movie, My Big Fat Greek Wedding, and Jonah: A VeggieTales Movie. I really look forward to learning the martial arts from the upcoming movie Eight Mile starring my FAVORITE HERO EVAR, Eminem (a.k.a. Slim Shady & Marshall Mathers), so you'd better watch out for my ANGRY WHITE NIGGER STANCE!!!!
I'm also learning even more martial arts from this web page [realultimatepower.net], including the deadly KUNG-FU NINJA JESUS ATTACK STANCE! Hi-YAH!!!
I'm working to improve my rythm [klerck.org], flexibility [rotten.com], stealth skills [fartbuster.com], self-confidence [yahoo.com], and critical thinking [timecube.com] skills, so you'd better watch out, because very soon I will perfect my ultimate attack, THE LARD-LIKE ANTISOCIAL DEPRESSIVE ASSHOLE SPAMMER IMPOTENT PAEDOPHILE FELCHING FLATULENT WIGGER SUMO-SAMURAI CHILD-ABUSE RESTRAINING-ORDER UNWASHED BASTARDIZED ANAL IMMATURE CATHOLIC GOATFUCKER STANCE!!!!
If that doesn't scare you... just wait and see. You'll get yours soon enough.
As Nietzsche said, "If you stare too long into my ass [klerck.org], beware, for my ass [klerck.org] might start to stare back into you."
-- Vlad
I just LOVE Vladinator's site [olsentwins.com]. Especially the "flab" [olsentwins.com] section, where I learned to use a fold of my own stomach-flab as a Martial Arts weapon. Oh and the "aborted fetus" photos!
Of course, don't forget to read Vladinator's entrails [olsentwins.com]. Here you will find how truly difficult it is to decide what to do on the weekends... have an orgy party? A faggot party? Go to the the mall naked and get arrested for public indecency? Have a sleepover and get woken up by Nigerians on the phone?
In short, if you haven't seen Vladinator's site [olsentwins.com], you don't know what you're missing!
I just LOVE Vladinator's site [olsentwins.com]. Especially the "flab" [olsentwins.com] section, where I learned to use a fold of my own stomach-flab as a Martial Arts weapon. Oh and the "aborted fetus" photos!
Of course, don't forget to read Vladinator's entrails [olsentwins.com]. Here you will find how truly difficult it is to decide what to do on the weekends... have an orgy party? A faggot party? Go to the the mall naked and get arrested for public indecency? Try to sleep but get woken up by Nigerians on the phone?
In short, if you haven't seen Vladinator's site [olsentwins.com], you don't know what you're missing!
I just LOVE The Anti-Vlad Triad's site! Especially the "fash" section, where I learned to cut the bottom off of an old shirt to use as a hair enhancement! Oh, and the "dance party" photos!
Of course, don't forget to read The Anti-Vlad Triad's emails! Here you will discover how truly difficult it is to decide what to do on the weekends... have a LAN party? A hash party? Go to the mall to look at underage girls? Have a sleepover and call Scott Lockwood at midnight?
In short, if you haven't checked out The Anti-Vlad Triad's site, you don't know what you're missing!
Adequacy Still Sucks Ass!
[bc] momomomo :) :) :) How'd you find it? Is it the one where he takes the drug and it makes him recklessly courageous? :)9 945 ;) :-) LOL :-) :-) :-) :-) :\2 27.shtml?tid=109 :-) /etc/resolv.conf, or tweak my registry, or any of that hippie geek bullshit, I just want to do my fucking work...... stmo ry.jsp?story=351901 /topic whatever you want the topic to be here /msg nickserv identify yerpass /msg chanserv op #adequacy dmg :-( /topic test /quote topic test /quote topic test, it does that too8 776 ;) :\
[momocrome] KKK and the kuro5hin/modsub - a monograph of prophecy
[momocrome] Dear Reader, there will be flames./
[bc] heh
[momocrome] there is a lot of wackyness in today's queue
[bc] there's been this running anti-liberal crapflooding
[momocrome] I have a dry story about low-emission engines and electric hybrids nearly ready
[bc] up from the grass roots
[bc] heh, nice
[momocrome] it would be hailed as a masterwork during a flood like this
[bc] yes, it'll get a zillion FPs
[bc] make sure it is typo-free and don't bother with edit mode, post it straight
[momocrome] I'll crack it open
[momocrome] I was also working on a history of the Rastafarian Faith...
[momocrome] maybe that would be more timelyu
[bc] hmmn, which is closer to completion?
[bc] get something out there fast to capitalise on friday busyness and frustration
*** cyn-away is now known as cyndrekit
*** Retrieving #adequacy info...
*** Captain_Tenille (~jeremy@216-210-218-82.atgi.net) has joined #adequacy
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[momocrome] trollaxor is making the rounds in #kuro5hin
[momocrome] oops he's left
[bc] wanker
[momocrome] I thought you might want to say hi to him, bc
[bc] not really
[bc] I won't forgive him for his involvement in the vlad-persecution and, in general, his fuckwitishness
[Captain_Tenille] Hmm. Just left #giz, too
[momocrome] bc?
[bc] what?
[momocrome] i am msging you thx
[momocrome] a private msg for bc... do you accept?
[cyndrekit] i will
[cyndrekit] zuul, seen perdida?
[zuul] perdida was last seen on #adequacy 2 days, 20 hours, 26 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: byeees [Tue Nov 12 18:40:22 2002]
[shoeboy] hullo
[Captain_Tenille] Hey shoeboy
[shoeboy] hey ct
* shoeboy is bored bored bored
[Captain_Tenille] How goes?
* Captain_Tenille is on the verge of falling asleep
[momocrome] wow, first trollaxor, now shoeboy. it's like 2000 A.D. all over again.
[shoeboy] watching cpu activity on a server
[shoeboy] it's almost hypnotic
[shoeboy] I've got a task that wakes every 2 seconds, so it's nice an rhythmic
[Captain_Tenille] "We now return to the thrilling conclusion to "CPU Levels on a Server". There will be no further interruptions."
[shoeboy] 33% activity across 4 processors
[shoeboy] spikes every 2 seconds
[shoeboy] exciting
[momocrome] so is that four physical processors, or two hyperthreaded xeons?
[shoeboy] 4 physical procs
[shoeboy] hyperthreading is garbage
[momocrome]
[Captain_Tenille] Awww
[momocrome] Hyperthreading is the flavor of the month.
[Captain_Tenille] Someone is making a lasagna for my gf and I.
[shoeboy] hrm... I was reading the wrong counter, cpu is only at 8%
* bc smacks his lips
[bc] food was excellent
[bc] now for smoke
[bc] hi shoe btw
* shoeboy finished "Flasman and the Mountain of Light" last night
[bc] great
[bc] I was LMAO at that
[shoeboy] no, it's the one covering the sikh war
[bc] oh, the Koh I Noor?
[bc] Khalsa etc?
[Captain_Tenille] Isn't that a large jewel of some sort?
[shoeboy] yeah
[shoeboy] that's the one
[bc] that's a good one
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[Captain_Tenille] I can't remember if it's a diamond or an emerald
[shoeboy] the bit where he's instructing the Sikh Wazir on how to lose is brilliant
[shoeboy] it's a diamond
[bc] I love the idea of all the intrigue
[dmg] whasssssuuuuup ?
[bc] one side trying to lose, but make it look like they had tried
[bc] hey dmg
[dmg] hey bc
[dmg] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
[dmg] I don't like it one bit...
[Captain_Tenille] Is that the list of names?
[dmg] yeah
* Captain_Tenille posted that in here earlier today
[dmg] Mr McP
[dmg] up to his old tricks
[dmg] or
[bc] yes. It' probably craig, perhaps osm
[Captain_Tenille] Do we know anyone in Arkansas?
[dmg] and anti McP trying to discredit Mr McP
[dmg] why Arkansas ?
[Captain_Tenille] Doesn't craig live there?
[shoeboy] yup
[Captain_Tenille] Maybe a hit could be put out on him.
[bc] he lives not too far from kansas City
[Captain_Tenille] Arkansas is a small state.
[bc] which is where he and osm and trollaxor get together to take photos of them in their "phoneboys" garb
[dmg] isn't KKKlinton from Arkansas ?
[Captain_Tenille] Ja.
[Captain_Tenille] bc: Where's osm from?
[momocrome] osm is kansas too, iirc
[bc] KC is where he lives
[bc] same as trollaxor
[Captain_Tenille] Ah.
[dmg] the intrigue
[Captain_Tenille] I knew trollaxor lived there, but not osm.
[shoeboy] I wonder where Craig got my name?
[dmg] trolling subculture is just so....
[bc] yay, fujaba downloaded after only 4 attempts, damned germans
[Captain_Tenille] So much intrigue over absolutely NOTHING!
[dmg] intenst
[bc] hehe shoe
[dmg] shoeboy:
[dmg] wasn't he on the list ?
[momocrome] heh shoeboy
[shoeboy] dmg, I've never been on the list
[dmg] I could have sworn...
[bc] the list is dead anyway
[dmg] at least 20721 is quite funny at the moment
[dmg] in a manic depression/add sort of way
[bc] there's one post every 6 months and has been for 18 months
[dmg] bc: which list are you talking about ?
[bc] k22320
[dmg] k22320inchfan ?
[dmg] oh
[bc] no, the other one
[dmg] editors@
[dmg] adequacy.org
[bc] nono
[bc] not that one either
[bc] you know, the *real* one. Weren't you invited?
[dmg] what the real TOP SECRET one that noone knows about ?
[dmg] ok
[dmg] we are on the same page now.
[bc] hehe
[bc] k22320, I meant, for being totally dead
[dmg] aha
[dmg] I met spiralx and IAT last night
[bc] *k22320inchfan is dying
[dmg] red ink
[dmg] etc
[dmg] kreskin
[dmg] face facts
[bc] charnel house
[dmg] all practical purposes
[dmg] netcraft
[dmg] look at the figures
[dmg] IAT had a goth woman move into his flat
[dmg] from match.com
[bc] wow really?!?
[dmg] yeah
[bc] I'm sure I'm the one that showed him match.com
[bc] also, last I saw him was sunday
[dmg] she sat around all day watching "monarch of the glen" on tv
[bc] he was moaning about having split up with his gf
[dmg] that's her
[bc] redhead?
[dmg] she was 15st, goth, redhead 6'2"
[dmg] allegedly
[bc] haha! That lying bastard, he was criticising hotornot and internet dating
[dmg] he is going to try again...
[bc] anyway, this means but one thing: match.com must be searched for iat's ex-gf
[dmg] LOL LOL LOL LOL
[dmg] keywords goth "monarch of the glen"
[dmg] tv
* Captain_Tenille is mistrustful of girls taller than him
[bc] haha
[dmg] I am mistrustful of the female sex
[dmg] in general.
[dmg] especially after my eventful wednesday evening...
[Captain_Tenille] I am six feet tall.
[Captain_Tenille] Any female taller than that is a mostrosity and a mutant!
[dmg] no no no
[dmg] we are all equal in the eyes of god
[bc] what happened on wed?
[dmg] tall, short
[dmg] white black
[dmg] libertarian, communist
[dmg] bc: you know my friend ?
[bc] yes
[dmg] I was right about her
[dmg] she DID want me.
[bc] and she told you as much?
[dmg] I am now sporting a sex-related injury
[bc] haha
[dmg] its not funny
[dmg] my leg hurts
[bc] good. Yes, it is funny though
[dmg] when I put weight on it
[dmg] it was so amusing.
[bc] another #adequacy dating advice success!
[dmg] it was pretty much the most rampant sex I have had in my life...
[dmg] so much for her protestations of not being interested
[bc] hehe
[dmg] #adequacy rules !!!!
[dmg] doing the right thing for the wrong reasons!!!
[dmg] I was late for work
[bc] you're lucky. All I came home to on wednesday was a fucking nasty writ from Ayr Sherriff County Court.
[dmg] LOL
[bc] well, not from them, but requesting that I appear before them
[dmg] Which reminds me, better go and pay my credit card bill brb
[bc] "request" being more like "appear or else"
[Captain_Tenille] GodDAMN it!
[Captain_Tenille] My fucking office chair just broke!
[bc] haha
[Captain_Tenille] I loved that chair.
[bc] did it happen while you were sitting in it, with the result that you spread everywhere hilariously?
[Captain_Tenille] No. It fell over after I stood up, and one of the bottom things broke off.
[Captain_Tenille] It had been breaking for a couple of weeks.
* Captain_Tenille has not had a pleasant past couple of weeks.
[bc] heh
[bc] fuck sake, fucking fucking fujaba gives and exception on the one major piece of functionality I wanted
[bc] goddamned thing
[bc] "write once, run anywhere" [-haha
[dmg] bc what do the authorities want with you ?
[dmg] presumably they are trying to coerce you
[dmg] in some way
[bc] they are, but rightfully. it is not the government that is coercing me, but I private organisation I have breached a contract with
[cyndrekit] hehe this is by far my favorite scoop site design wise http://www.artificialcheese.com/
[bc] and now have to plea with, though hopefully I should be successful
[dmg] bc: I am surprised
* Captain_Tenille is bored
[dmg] I thought you of all people would honour a voulantary contract!
[dmg] being an anarcho-capitalist/libertarian and all that
[bc] well I would have, but I didn't realise I was breaking it until it was too late
[dmg] ignorance is no defence
[bc] ]:(
[bc] everybody makes mistakes and suffers the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
[dmg] yes, but a contract is a CONTRACT. Its the fundamental bedrock of society....
[bc] I agree! And people break them, sometimes in error, sometimes deliberately, and in both cases restitution is just
[dmg] you will get what's coming to you, mark my words...
[bc] I willfully submit to the court and can only plead before them, they are human beings and shall hopefully see my POV
[bc] and grant me a return into the contract as it was before
[dmg] I hope they don't let you get away with anything....
[Captain_Tenille] What did you not do, bc?
[dmg] after all, a contract is legally binding, and freely entered in to.
[dmg] it would be a mockery and a travesty if they let you get away with flouting it.
[bc] of course it is, dmg, however it is not a mockery and a travesty if they accept all too human error at their discretion, Humanity is at the heart of our justice system too, and the company whose contract I have breached is composed of employees who are human beings, and should see this as nothing but a simple error
[dmg] bc: I expect the contract will have a just penalty clause for this kind of situation...
[bc] I don't think it does. It is a fairly unusual situation
[bc] but I am willing to accept penalties
[dmg] slashdot blatantly trolls it's moronic readership again.... http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/02/11/13/2127
[dmg] "While I did pay Microsoft for Office for Mac, I try to avoid filling their coffers whenever possible, so for all the family/friends who rely on me for computer recommendations I recommend Mac or Linux."
[dmg] Wanker.
[dmg] Liar too
[bc] haha
[bc] holy crap
[dmg] its straight from the "howto"
[dmg] category "elitism"
[bc] I especially like this bit:
[bc] My own situation is that I use an IT-mandated Win98 (ugh) laptop at work, but at home I'm Mac OS X all the way.
[bc] huh??
[dmg] WIn98 and MacOs are virtually indistinguishable to normal people.
[bc] My own situation is that I use an Prprietary system I (ugh) laptop at work, but at home I'm Proprietary System II all the way.
[dmg] exactly
[dmg] but who gives a fuck, anyway ?
[dmg] its just a fucking computer.
[dmg] Its not a life-or-death issue.
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[bc] it's not anti-proprietary reasoning, it isn't anti-crapsoftware reasoning, it is anti-MS reasoning and that's it
[bc] yes
[bc] it's a damned computer! who cares
[dmg] I just want to get my work done.
[bc] What keeps me on windows? (Score:5, Funny)
[bc] by Real World Stuff on Friday November 15, @04:26PM (#4680158)
[bc] (User #561780 Info | http://www.elbbs.com/elbbs/jude/hegebaby.html | Last Journal: Friday November 08, @01:30PM)
[bc] Why the Microsoft ads on Slashdot of course!
[dmg] I don't want to edit my
[bc] same here
[bc] I like that windows is so closed
[bc] otherwise I'd just be horsing around forever
[bc] all the time
[dmg] Looks like the yanks may have caught Osama!!!
[bc] as it is, it just works
[bc] wow really??
[dmg] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2482545
[dmg] doesn't mention him by name...
[dmg] but I bet al-jazeera is well infiltrated by MI5/6
[dmg] and they seem to have a hotline to him
[bc] hmmn
[bc] I doubt they are well-infiltrated
[dmg] "I can't tell you when, I can't tell you where, I can't tell you how," said one unnamed official. "But this is a big deal."
[dmg] Who else can they be talking about ?
[bc] Sources told the Reuters news agency that the person who had been captured was neither al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden's right-hand man, Ayman al-Zawahri, nor operational leader Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, nor Bin Laden's son Saad.
[bc] heh, who does that leave I wonder?
[dmg] I need to go check out my conspiracy sites...
[dmg] http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/st
[bc] dmg, you'll like this a lot: http://reason.com/0210/artifact.shtml
[dmg] Bin Laden is alive
[dmg] Fucking-A!!!!
[bc] hehe
[dmg] I LOVE it....
[dmg] it hints at so much
[dmg] without actually saying anything.
[bc] I love the blurb underneath
[bc] what were they thinking?
[dmg] the latin phrase is the icing on the cake
[bc] "Hmmn, a big eye looking over the earth, that will be reassuring and comforting!"
[dmg] someone has an awesome sense of humour
[bc] that agency is big and nasty though
[dmg] I am surprised that the Euro does not feature pyramids on its banknotes.
[bc] they are doing the supposed Carnivore II stuff
[dmg] oh
[bc] http://reason.com/sullum/111502.shtml
[dmg] this will be logged then.
[bc] I love reason.com
[dmg] bin laden, terrorism, dirty bomb, al-quaida
[dmg] oklahoma city
[dmg] fbi
[dmg] cia
[dmg] etc
[bc] that and justin raimondo and von mises and aldaily are worth a daily read
[bc] as well as being a sexy, sexy man
[dmg] men are not sexy to me.
[dmg] except Sam Sloan.
[dmg] he has the experience of life
[bc] I find justin sexier than sam sloan
[bc] though sam is pretty sexy
[dmg] were I ever to turn gay and desire rampant butt sex
[bc] http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html
[bc] just look at his rugged good looks
[dmg] Sam would be the man for the job.
[bc] (and remember, he actually is gay)
[dmg] bc: everyone is bisexual
[dmg] "gays" are just repressed
[bc] hehe
[dmg] "The US was finally forced to acknowledge yesterday that the man some of them had claimed to be dead was still very much in the land of the living - and uttering the kind of threat that fulfils the worst nightmares of Western leaders."
[bc] "Most of us 'neo-isolationists,' a disparate, contentious lot, are realy [sic] not 'neo' anything. We are old church and old right, anti-imperialist and anti-interventionist, disbelievers in Pax Americana. We love the old republic, and when we hear phrases like 'New World Order,' we release the safety catches on our revolvers." --Pat Buchanan
[bc] I love that!
[dmg] is that they are too intellectual for the masses.
[dmg] we need "new Conservatives"
[dmg] Thatcherism with better marketing
[bc] there're the "neoconservatives" in USia
[bc] so the label is really taken, by the wrong people
[bc] our conservatives just suck
[dmg] I am economically right wing, and socially, I don't give a fuck what you do so long as I don't have to subsidise it....
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[Sulla] damn
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[dmg] thanks to #adequacy I had some of the best sex of my life...
[dmg] bc:
[dmg] how do I set the topic
[bc] first, get yourself opped
[bc] then
[bc] to op yourself, type
[dmg] can you op me
[bc]
[bc] ok wait a sec, I'll reg myself
[dmg] that didnt work
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o dmg
[cyndrekit] whats going on?
[bc] there
[bc] cyn?
[cyndrekit] ahh
[cyndrekit] topic changes
[dmg] it still doesn't work
[bc] eh??
[bc]
[cyndrekit] i can do it
[bc] try that
[dmg] I type "/topic" test
[bc] you do it in quotes?
[dmg] "no topic is set"
[bc] huh
[dmg] does it make a difference ?
[bc] are you using trillian?
[dmg] bc: yes
[bc] can you right click or whatever or try clicking on the topic or whatever, they have probably gui-ed it
[dmg] nothing happens
[bc] hmm
[bc] try
[bc] ?
[bc] oh
[dmg] "No Topic is set"
[bc] when I do
[bc] so yer fucked unless you use a different client seems to me
[bc] tell me what you want the topic to be, and I'll do it
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[dmg] bc:
[dmg] thanks to #adequacy I had some of the best sex of my life...
[dmg] thats the topic
*** bc changes topic to 'thanks to #adequacy I had some of the best sex of my life... (dmg, not me, obviously)'
[dmg] well dony
[bc] woohoo!
* bc continues searching for a UML modeller that is free and works, goddamnit to hell
[dmg] did you know tombuck is a wannabe slashdot troll ?
[dmg] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=44937&cid=465
[cyndrekit] "how many #adequacy ops does it take to change a topic?"
*** Retrieving #adequacy info...
[bc] LOL
[bc] @cyn
[cyndrekit] hehe
[dmg] cyn: adequacy ops don't do "techie" stuff. They pay someone else to do it
[cyndrekit] so iv'e noticed...
[cyndrekit]
[bc] that's tombuch dmg?? coo
[dmg] apparently
[dmg] he's new to trolling
[bc] he got 22 mod points spent on him, that's pretty impressive
[dmg] not bad
[dmg] slagging off NASA always pulls them in.
[bc] I remember my first successful troll like it was yesterday
[bc] oh the exhilleration!
[bc] it was a post called "Why HAL should never be developed"
[bc] by Kiss the Blade
[bc] that was trademarkedly luddite, anti-techi, and snooty and superior and artistic and such
[bc] in a boring story about 2001: A Space Odyssey or some crap
[dmg] KTB was good
[bc] it was a laugh, and about my 3rd ever post, and it got 40 replies
[dmg] trolling
[dmg] those were the days
[dmg] nowadays it has become impossible to troll
[bc] that was at eexactly the same time as everybody abandoned sid=trolltalk for the k5 trolltalk sid
[dmg] Baudrillard would say that trolls are indistinguishable from genuine opinions
[dmg] they are simulacra
[bc] and I didn't know any of you lot, so I was left all alone, and nobody noticed my sublime period of success ]~((
[dmg] ive been thinking about that a lot.
[dmg] It does not matter whether the expounder of a viewpoint is sincere
Dedicated to teaching quality Trolling skillz
STEP 1 : Pick a story and search through for a highly-rated or otherwise prominent comment in which someone uses a nubmered list. For example, you want to find something like this:
EXAMPLE:
- Blah!
- Blah!
- Blah!
For example, I selected this post as a prime target. There are only a few things to keep in mind: pick an active story and a comment that'll be seen by a lot of people as the target of your troll. The comment MUST contain a numbered list, similar to the above, although the exact style of numbering can vary. Also, try to pick a comment that hasn't already been trolled this way. Every comment with a numbered list will eventually get hit, so you want to be quick.STEP 2 : Take careful note of the method of numbering that your target post is using. It really doesn't matter, as long as it's numbered. For example, in this post I use text like "STEP 1", "STEP 2", etc. Note this carefully. This method of trolling makes the most sense when the list is a list of ordered steps (such as this vary document you are reading), BUT if the numbered list is something different, such as "REASON 1:", "REASON 2:", etc., hit it anyway! Your troll will be more esoetric and non-sequitur, but all the better: trolling doesn't always HAVE to make sense. Sometimes it's fun to confuse people.
STEP 3 : Now you'll put the information gained from step 2 to good use, as you attack the target you selected. This is where it gets complicated, so pay attention. This is easiest to explain with a couple of examples. Let's say your target looks like this:
TARGET POST:
Now, to pull off your masterfult act of trollage, you'll want to sneak in, post a reply, and do this:
TROLL REPLY:
- 4. ???
- 5. PROFIT!
Let's say that the post you're replying to is a bit more complex:TARGET POST:
Reasons Linix is so great!
*REASON 1: My allowance won't cover expensive software.
*REASON 2: Completely off-topic rant about Microsoft.
*REASON 3: I love Linix!!
Now you want to come in and do this:
TROLL REPLY:
*REASON 4: ???
*REASON 5: PROFIT!
Note what I did there: I emulated the exact style of his numbered list, and then added to it in order to cleverly troll him. THAT is the key. If he numbers his list using bold, use bold. If your target uses all caps, use all caps. If he uses Roman Numerals, use Roman Numerals (hint: I II III IV V VI VII VII IX X, then everything repeats from there), etc. Make YOUR list seem like an naturally-flowing conclusion to your TARGET's list. Then give him HELL! Here's the general key:
TARGET POST:
...
1. Blah!
2. Blah!
3. Blah!
X. Blah!
TROLL REPLY
X+1. ???
X+2. PROFIT!
I know it gets complicated when you throw in the algebra, but you should be able to do it. Keep track of the numbers on a piece of paper if you have to. It's vary difficult, but once you try it out, you'll get the hang of it. It's an aquired skill that can only be improved through hard work and practice. So get out there and troll!
Here's a summary:
STEP 1 : Pick your target (active, contains numbered list)
STEP 2 : Gather information (style of the numbered list)
STEP 3 : Nail the target by adding on to his own list!
STEP 4 : ???
STEP 5 : PROFIT!
See, I even did it to my own damn list! That's how easy it is once you become a master at this discipline of trolling! Good luck, young Jedi!!! Go out and troll the world, you motherfucking cuntrag bitches!!
Why Evil is Good
I hate victims. Victims are the albatross hung from the neck of society. The
term is not even acknowledged by any other species. I am certain if there are
intelligent beings elsewhere in the universe, they follow the strict principle
of Natural Selection. Only the Strong shall survive. Mankind cannot survive
as long as its virility is diluted by the weak.
Peace-and-Love hippies, retards, cripples, depressives, sickling, addicts
and whiners are all victims of one kind or another. Larger examples of victims
can also be found: the entire nations of Israel and Englund, for example, are
constantly victimized and/or whining about their lack of power in the world. In
fact, the entire continent of Europe is nothing but a festering sewer of whiners
and welfare states. If we, the strongest nation on Earth, had a decent Ruler,
the entire junk-heap of Eurotrash would be burned to create a cloud of such lethal
density it would waft over to Asia and take out the victims that were left over from
World War II. The great black column of suffocating smoke would rise high into the
atmosphere, reaching for the very edges of outer space - a giant, living monument
to our strength. The unviable ashes of the once living garbage would orbit the Earth,
forever reminding future generations of the price of weakness.
World War II. Probably the greatest single era in the history of the planet, barring
the time before Man and Man's distorted, unnatural philosophies of "common good" and
"protecting the innocent". The time of Germany and its rule by a man of great vision.
A man who saw the virtue of evil. Every single class of victim described above was
dealt with in the harshest possible manner. Most people focus on the genocidal aspect
of Hitler's activities but his vision was much wider, encompassing every brand of
weakling from ethnic victims to sexual deviants. Unfortunately the United States,
led by a cripple, had to involve our great military might on the wrong side of the
war. The least Roosevelt could have done was to allow Germany to finish raping
France and reduce Englund to rubble.
We paid for our mistake in World War II. We were punished for choosing the wrong
side in the Great War by a period of non-violent "Cold War". The term "Cold War"
itself is the mark of the true Beast: the peace lover. A true leader - a Ruler -
would have unleashed the full might of our nuclear arsenal upon every nation on the
Earth, banishing them forever to particles of glowing dust blowing through the winds
of history. And look what our lack of action has gotten us: A planet filled with
human garbage, eternal sufferers suckling from the breast of the Mighty.
It is beyond my comprehension. Not only am I forced to allow the weak to survive,
but I - we - are forced to subsidize their pathetic existence. Every cripple
creeping along the sidewalk. Every degenerate elderly woman with osteoporosis who
parks in the handicap parking spot. Every worthless, lazy hippy who cries for peace
and marches on a public university. Every sickling child perpetually hospitalized
because its fetid welfare mother smoked too many drugs during her pregnancy. Every
30 year old retard wiping its nose all over its Scooby Doo coloring book. Every
drunk little whore seeking "justice" in our courts for her rape. All of them,
and more, deserve nothing but death. In the Natural World, every single one of these
leeches would be lion fodder.
Even the "Good Book", the Bible - which is actually nothing more than the sick fantasies
of opium addicts - predicts the outcome of Nature: "The meek shall inherit the Earth".
Yes, I know what you're saying, but you are wrong. This phrase has been twisted by the
weak, the cripple, the Jew to give their pathetic lives some ray of hope. This phrase
does not mean that the Victim will Rule the world. That is laughable. That is impossible.
The meek shall inherit the Earth for the one and only reason that they will be buried in
it.
To the strong who have read this: Thank you. Together, we will conquer. To the weak who
will whine in the comments below: Your days are numbered, trash.
Surely, Mr. Traficant is quaking in his boots at the prospect
of being interviewed by Ms. Sassaman. Ms. Sassaman's reporting
is the most hard-hitting; the most insightful; the most
fact-based. Every interview she does (how many... two now?) opens
a Pandora's box of corruption and intrigue.
Ms. Sassaman concocts many a rich fantasy in her clouded mind. Her
writing never seems to hit the mark. That is because it is never
based in anything resembling reality. How many times have we been
teased with suggestions of "having it cold" that a "certain large
company" is involved in far-reaching scandal? How many times have we
been promised penetrating interviews with the rich and famous?
I think it has become painfully obvious that Ms. Sassaman lives in
a world completely of her own manufacture. "I'm going to interview Jamez
Traficante." "I'm going to blow the lid off of nookie." "I'm going
to expose the corruption going on in Russian Blue cat farms."
Yes. We believe you, Esther. Now, go in for your schizophrenia
treatment and quiet down.
Now, there is nothing wrong with living in a fantasy. And there is
nothing wrong with setting goals for yourself. But Kuro5hin has had
enough of Ms. Sassaman's blatant and admitted trolling and attention
farming. After having read this diary entry several times, I can see
no other purpose than to say to all of Kuro5hin: "Look at me! I'm a
hot-shot journalist and I'm going to interview Jamez Traficante! Please
heap your adulation on me now!"
Sorry, not this time. Perhaps a better place to have posted this
diary would have been Adequacy,
which is the intended victim of this fantasy interview. What, pray tell, was
the reason for posting this here? To get more traffic for Adequacy,
which has been in steady decline for several months now? Probably. And,
of course, personal attention.
In summary, I guess I can only point out that I have spoken to people who
were under the influence of LSD and still had more grounding in reality than
Ms. Sassaman. Perhaps she would do well to pack her knapsack and hitch a
ride to China, where her delusions of grandeur and fantasies of conspiracy
could be put to good use in a propaganda machine.
Bye.
The information was stolen by getting users to go to a site that LOOKED like an eBay site and get them to give that site the information directly.
CNN is reporting: "HUNDREDS FOOLED AS EBAY SCAM STORY IS POSTED TO FAKE SLASHDOT SITE". The article goes on to say, "Many SlashDot regulars looking for easy karma were duped into posting their carefully crafted trolls and comments to a fraudulent site set up at http://brak.slashdot.org/ officials said early Friday morning. CmdrTaco has been unavailable for comment."
moto411.com
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] New Debian advertisements, by me!
Date sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:55:53 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0025)
Hey, you missed part of her armpit. She's a statue with a living,
breathing armpit. I'm trying to find some irony there, but I can't.
Otherwise, jolly good show.
Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:
>I've done some unofficial new advertisements for Debian Linux.
>http://users.ipa.net/~cmcpher/newad.jpg
(This is CP0025)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] advice?
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 04:34:58 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0013)
Indeed, whimsy is an open account (for posting whimsical diaries) whose password is 'whimsy'. I've contributed some diaries (principally, "I was there watching the world go by" and "How to calculate your social security income") and so have felt free to abuse the account for comment posting in Anne Marie stories. My guess is the other whimsy poster is tewl, since she posted something about "oh, I didn't realize annemarie=cp" in k5tt a while back.
I share your incredulity. Anyone who reads through k5tt would know the truth. Anyone who suspected could do a search on my (cp's) comments and see I only post in anne marie's stories. Oh well. It's fun to see rusty defend me.
--- James <spiralx@spazmail.com> wrote:
> --- =?iso-8859-1?q?I=20am=20Troll?=
> <i_am_troll@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >I thought that you were Whimsy? Why did you just
> out
> >yourself and then ask us to mod it down? Explain
> now,
> >or I'll moderate the comment up.
>
> Nah, Whimsy is an open account anyone can use if
> they know the password, which is lost to me, but
> could be "whimsy". So at least one other person
> remembers the password and knows that cp is anne
> marie.
>
> What I'd like to know is how on Earth has cp managed
> to keep the fact that he is Anne Marie quiet so
> well? I mean, he hardly tried to keep it quiet with
> trolltalk posts and so on, and yet very few seem to
> know who Anne Marie actually is...
>
> J
>
> P.S. I really want to smoke. Bugger. Giving up
> sucks.
(This is CP0013)
It is time to set the record straight regarding the situation with respect
to Vladinator/JCB/Reza/Lonesome Cowboy Burt/Whatever other aliases he may be
using. The situation has been confused due to the recent world-wide influx
of Vlad-haters, helper-cells, interested third parties and the occasional
Vlad sympathizer.
Let us start with a basic tenet of the Association of Anti-Vlad Avengers:
There is no difference between William Scott Lockwood III and those who
aid him, give him comfort, and/or use him as a substandard, "Always Save"
hosting solution. Though we may have no direct quarrel with you, Mr. "Trollaxor",
you appear to be friendly with Mr. Lockwood and - by your own admission - are
using him as a substandard "Always Save" hosting solution. Consider the fact
that if you were using a respectable host for your web site, you would not be
having the difficulties you are having now. Also, with this attempt at
ferreting out information for Mr. Lockwood, you are aiding and abetting our
sworn enemy and have aligned yourself in direct oposition to a powerful
internet force (that is, the AAA and its splinter groups).
This brings us to a primary characteristic of the AAA which has
been detailed elsewhere, but which I will repeat here in interest of
completeness: no single cell, as an entity, is aware of the members of
any other cell. The structure of our association works as follows. Each
cell is composed of no more and no less than three members who all reside in
a roughly similar geographic area. One of the three members is designated
as a messenger. This messenger is the only member in contact with a messenger
from exactly two other cells. In this way, the members of each cell remain
anonymous to the members of any other cell. If a messenger has been compromised,
the corresponding cell is responsible for "cleansing" that messenger and
replacing him or her with a new messenger. Such a cell will remain on
probation - meaning they will only be allowed contact with a single other
cell - until such time as the new messenger has been operating for no less
than six months.
Our activities are clandestine and even if another cell wanted to
share the information you request, it would not be able to because it
would not be privy to said information.
As you can see the AAA, though very loosely connected, operates
in a highly efficient manner and is deadly serious about the stated goals
of the organization: namely, the complete, unconditional eradication of
Vladinator, in any and all forms, from the internet.
We have been following the current situation with Vladinator's hosting
service quite closely and we estimate the damages to be severe at this point.
However, we cannot agree to end our champaign any sooner than already decided
upon. We may have shown mercy in this, our second major attack, if Mr.
Lockwood had shown the proper degree of humility at our hands. Instead,
Mr. Lockwood responded with his usual barrage of
lies
and vitriol.
For this reason, and the fact that we are otherwise bored, we have extended the
length of this attack. We realize that Mr. Lockwood's hosting company will try
various tricks to deflect our attack, things such as firewalls and IP banning. Eventually,
they will succeed in eliminating the current attack at which point we will rest for
a period of not less than seven days prior to initiating another attack.
We predict that the end of this second wave will result in another round of
cockiness from Mr. Lockwood, given the highly reactionary character that he is.
The next attack, which will be the "third wave", will be far more subtle than the
current attack and will undoubtedly shake Mr. Lockwood's faith in his current
alliances and dealings. This cycle of attack/end attack/Lockwood gets cocky/
attack again is necessary to wear down Mr. Lockwood's self-confidence and
general desire for continued existence.
As for the fate of Trollaxor.com, I would suggest you find a more suitable,
respectable host for your web site. Had you chosen your hosting solution more
wisely to begin with, you would not find yourself in the same sinking ship with
the rest of Lockwood's "customers". We would also like to remind you that it
is not we who are the enemy, it is William Scott Lockwood III who has
brought this upon himself and those who do business with him. Yes, our attacks
have been harsh and our dealings with Mr. Lockwood have been merciless, but simply
going over Mr. Lockwood's internet history shows that our cause is just and in the
best interests of the internet community at large. If we must sacrifice "innocent"
sites such as yours and kuro5hin, then so be it. It is a very small price to pay
for a truly Vladinator-free internet. An internet where true innocents can browse,
write and engage in discussion without fear of being choked at the hands of a
slobbering troglydite with bad glands
and a spastic colon.
From: Ceee Peee
0 /12/25/225554/21&mode=mo
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] What better way to spread the holiday joy...
Date sent: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 20:10:17 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0009)
What better way to spread the holiday joy than to vote
up Anne Marie's new k5 article on pornography?
(http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=200
derate)
Pornography: it's what we do, so it's what we should discuss.
(This is CP0009)
The new year is almost upon us and I thought it might be a nice gift to the faithful
readers of trolltalk to offer this sneak preview of upcoming movies, scheduled to be
released in 2003. Enjoy!
Vladman
The story of a troubled man whose Momma was tormented by prank callers. The phoning
episode leaves young Scott scarred for life and spawns a dark alter ego, "Vladman", who
fights peaceful, quiet internet communities with his grossly obese superpowers and
profound lack of intelligence. This film is a sure-fire hit, starring Roseanne Barr
as "Momma" and Ernest Borgnine in the title role.
Vlad Max
This low budget action film comes from Australia. Food is scarce in a post-war society
and a band of roving maniacs find a treasure-trove of food in the Lockwood family. Vlad
escapes the pack of cannibals and swears revenge. With a blood-red bib and a giant salad
fork, Vlad goes on a feeding rampage! Starring Marlon Brando in the title role.
Jaws IV: The Attack of Vlad
After defeating three shark attacks, the residents of Amity Island are besieged by a new
behemoth from the deep. In this latest installment in the Jaws series, a giant,
man-eating monstrosity rises from the depths to devour entire ships and then pollutes
the shoreline with its massive feces. Who will be brave enough to stand up to this
new threat?
Vlad and Reza's Excellent Adventure
In this comedic masterpiece, our heroes travel through time in a makeshift deep-freezer
to sample culinary delights throughout the ages. But what will Vlad and Reza do once
their mass exceeds the capacity of the freezer?? I won't tell, but you can bet it is
hilarious!
Enter The Whale
An action-packed martial arts movie. You will be amazed at Vlad's special style of
martial arts in this film. It's almost as if the attackers bounce right off of Vlad
before he even moves. One criticism I have of this movie, however, is the makeup.
Throughout the picture, Vlad appears flushed and excessively sweaty.
That's it for now. Stay tuned for a special preview of a new CD where your
favorite rabbis cover some of America's greatest pop hits!
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] New Debian advertisements, by me!
Date sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:55:53 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0025)
Hey, you missed part of her armpit. She's a statue with a living,
breathing armpit. I'm trying to find some irony there, but I can't.
Otherwise, jolly good show.
Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:
>I've done some unofficial new advertisements for Debian Linux.
>http://users.ipa.net/~cmcpher/newad.jpg
(This is CP0025)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] No respect
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:57:36 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0018)
Today was the appointed date for jury duty (postponed since this summer, since the idiots at the courthouse failed to divine that calling a student to duty in the county where he studies rather than resides permanently doesn't make any sense). It was my hope to get on a jury, since I highly value the (unconstitutionally diminishing) role of the jury in American jurisprudence.
I showed up this morning at the courthouse. After some buffoonery at the security check (hint: don't carry a cpu in your backpack when arriving for jury duty), I went upstairs where I signed in and was informed that I had already missed the video (shucks). I filled out some paperwork and was redirected to the grand-jury room.
This was a potential mixed blessing. Grand juries, as distinguished from petite ("normal") juries, are the first line that the state must cross before obtaining an indictment for the accused. They consist of 23 laypersons whose standard is "probable cause" rather than "reasonable doubt" and vote by majority rule whether to issue an indictment. The prosecutor presents his witnesses and evidence, and the defendant has no representation. Normally, the grand-jury trial is brief and 99% or so of all grand juries return an indictment. Prosecutors often refer to this statistic as the "ability to indict a ham sandich" if they so please. Grand juries usually sit for one day per week for three months, something that would screw up any student's semester.
The good thing about grand juries is that they have almost infinite investigatory powers to do whatever they please. What is not commonly understood is that the role of the grand jury isn't just to return a verdict in the form of an indictment; it's for members to question witnesses, subpoena evidence the prosecutor didn't present, and generally get the whole story. It's even within the power of the grand jury to expell the prosecutor and judge if the jury so decides.
I was prepared to give them hell. Once on a jury
(grand or otherwise), I was going to be the asshole
lawyer the defendant isn't allowed to have. I was
going to subpoena bank records, grill prosecutorial
witnesses, and vote to nullify anything I considered
unjust (even when "legal"). I was going to persuade
enough fellow jurors to kick out anyone we didn't
like, especially the prosecutor. In short, I was
going to troll the legal system.
But I didn't get that opportunity. After an hour of
sitting in the grand-jury room, we were informed that
we weren't waiting for a grand-jury seating: instead,
a petite-jury seating.
Petite juries, in states that value the constitution,
are 12-person panels that sit and hear evidence in the
actual criminal trial. Their role is ostensibly to
decide the facts and apply the law as directed by the
judge. Their actual role under the constitution
(though the Supreme Court doesn't require that you be
informed of this) is to sit in judgment not just on
the facts but also on the law. Again, I was hoping to
get a chance to nullify stuff: this time, drug laws
and other things I believe unconstitutional.
Again, I was denied. Only five minutes later, we were
informed that all the cases pending today were
plea-bargained, and we were "free to go". A sigh of
relief was heard throughout the room, as people who
didn't want to be there were grateful that they didn't
have to serve on a jury and perform the duty they
didn't want to perform. I was disgusted.
That's what's most wrong with plea bargaining in this
country. Not that 90% of cases never reach public
scrutiny because they're decided in the hallways of
courthouses. Not that people serve penalties for
unconstitutional charges. Not that real criminals get
off with reduced sentences. Not that the legislatures
feel free to pass an absurd number of laws without
caring whether the court system can handle the load of
giving each citizen true justice.
None of that.
What's wrong is that I, a troll, have been kept off my
damn jury. No respect.
(This is CP0018)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Have you ever had one of those days?
Date sent: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 22:46:41 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0036)
I'm sitting here, waiting for my gf to wake up enough
to go finish getting ready for bed and go to sleep.
Does that make any sense to anyone? How come they
don't put this stuff in the manual?
(This is CP0036)
Adequacy Still Sucks Ass!
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] New Opportunity
Date sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:38:48 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0021)
No, that's no good either. As it stands, "post as AC" is good for making contributions that are important but punished by the capricious whims of moderators (and is currently the only option for people who want to post something at 0 instead of defaulting to 1). It doesn't stop the ones intent on posting crap; if anything, it forces them to go into a separate "post nothing but crap" mode, where they would proceed to post, you guessed it, lots of crap.
One compromise that I wouldn't mind so much (but which Taco wouldn't implement) is an option for posting at 0 under one's username but not having negative moderation affect one's karma in that mode. Alternatively, there could just be an option for posting at 0 without the karma aspect, but while that'd be much easier to code and sounds like a good idea, it is itself subject to an enormous abuse: karmawhoring at the 0 level -- stuff that is halfway decent would be netting karma just by modding up to 1. That could be fixed by having only moderation above 1 affect total karma, but that's another level of complexity that Rob probably doesn't want.
Mendax Veritas <mendaxveritas@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Okay, so what do you think of the converse option, of
>removing the "Post Anonymously" option when a user is
>logged in? You'd have to log out to post AC, which
>would make it a little less convenient to protect
>one's precious karma. Is that a good thing?
>
>I don't think any single change to Slashdot's policies
>is going to magically do away with spammers,
>jackasses, or idiots. But if a minor change like this
>would be more positive than negative, then it's worth
>considering, and might do some good as part of a more
>comprehensive solution.
>
>--mv
(This is CP0021)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] advice?
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 04:34:58 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0013)
Indeed, whimsy is an open account (for posting whimsical diaries) whose password is 'whimsy'. I've contributed some diaries (principally, "I was there watching the world go by" and "How to calculate your social security income") and so have felt free to abuse the account for comment posting in Anne Marie stories. My guess is the other whimsy poster is tewl, since she posted something about "oh, I didn't realize annemarie=cp" in k5tt a while back.
I share your incredulity. Anyone who reads through k5tt would know the truth. Anyone who suspected could do a search on my (cp's) comments and see I only post in anne marie's stories. Oh well. It's fun to see rusty defend me.
--- James <spiralx@spazmail.com> wrote:
> --- =?iso-8859-1?q?I=20am=20Troll?=
> <i_am_troll@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >I thought that you were Whimsy? Why did you just
> out
> >yourself and then ask us to mod it down? Explain
> now,
> >or I'll moderate the comment up.
>
> Nah, Whimsy is an open account anyone can use if
> they know the password, which is lost to me, but
> could be "whimsy". So at least one other person
> remembers the password and knows that cp is anne
> marie.
>
> What I'd like to know is how on Earth has cp managed
> to keep the fact that he is Anne Marie quiet so
> well? I mean, he hardly tried to keep it quiet with
> trolltalk posts and so on, and yet very few seem to
> know who Anne Marie actually is...
>
> J
>
> P.S. I really want to smoke. Bugger. Giving up
> sucks.
(This is CP0013)
From: Ceee Peee
0 /12/25/225554/21&mode=mo
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] What better way to spread the holiday joy...
Date sent: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 20:10:17 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0009)
What better way to spread the holiday joy than to vote
up Anne Marie's new k5 article on pornography?
(http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=200
derate)
Pornography: it's what we do, so it's what we should discuss.
(This is CP0009)
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;). If someone had created a 'KTB' character on k5 before I had, I would probably have been annoyed, but only because I may want to extend the character, insofar as I have developed it, onto k5 as well. The thing is, *I* am not really on the internet much at all. It seems that Siggy is, though, from what I can tell. He seems to be really into writing those torrid diaries, and exploring rather private parts of his personality in the most public of places - such as his sexuality, as 'Going For -100 Karma' publicised on /. If he really is exposing his true self to the k5 audience, this may be why he has become so defensive about the 'Bojay Iverson' thing - I would certainly be in a panic in his situation, if I thought the online world could reach into the real world and give me a kicking. I don't think I'll ever write diaries on k5, or if I do, they won't be about me, thats for sure. It freaks me out a little how easy it is to get information about someone on the internet, and the last thing I want want is an online diary, that will never expire, being accessible to all and sundry. I don't know, I just find the idea of posting your personal thoughts for all the world to see rather strange, if not a little ;)
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From: Barry Corrigan <barry@bjcorrigan.fsnet.co.uk>
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] talk about smoking crack...
Date sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 07:41:16 +0000
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
I find it interesting that it is possible to extend your ego to the internet to the degree that siggy seems to have done. I haven't used the
internet for very long (thats the UK for you), but I can certainly see how its possible to end up actually caring about some online persona.
Personally, I don't give a shit, but thats because I don't have an online persona that is actually me (does this post negate that? I'm not telling you
creepy. Perhaps its a Britain-America thing, I've heard that Americans are not shy, in fact sometimes I think they have never heard of the concept of embarrassment. So there you go
Sorry for this bollocks.
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, you wrote:
> Hi. I couldn't stay away, so I scrounged up some 'net
> access. Hi.
>
> I was talking with rusty indirectly about this, last
> night. He was asking me why I wanted k5 Anne Marie's
> nick -- that is, why I wanted to carry that "slashdot
> baggage" over with me to k5, the same way siggy did.
> It's funny, that way. I wanted k5 Anne Marie because
> it's a lovely character troll of mine. Siggy wanted
> "Signal 11" because it's the only way he's ever gotten
> a lot of (any) attention. He's afraid to be just
> Bojay Iverson, and it really comes across.
>
> --- Barry Corrigan
> wrote:
> >
> > Wow. I think I understand now why everyone seems to
> > dislike Signal 11 so much.
> > I mean, that has to be one of the most arrogant
> > things I've read, ohhh, all
> > week!
> > It was also extremely funny. Does he think he is an
> > internet celebrity or
> > something? In that post he came across as a jaded
> > Hollywood star.
> > Oh well, back to the horribleness of Java...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, you wrote:
> > >
> >
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2000/12/
> > >
> > > "Most of the best trolls on slashdot, I suspect,
> > were inspired by me. "
> > >
> > > i actually feel sorry for the guy. he needs some
> attention.
From: cptroll
:) [9:42:26 p] <Maarken> did Inoshiro say his nickname for his :) [9:52:43 p] <ugly13f> so you ar ehackers??? [9:52:55 p] :(((
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] why k5 is scary
Date sent: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:07:45 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0039)
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>So, being bored tonight, I decided to play around with k5. It's nothing
>really noteworthy - I was pretending to be a stupid 13 year old girl
>(13/f/pakistan) in k5 and asking lots of dumb questions.
Lies, all of it. I was there, and all lb did was solicit sex chat in a real high drunk squeaky voice (which was hard to convey on IRC, but you et the idea). In fact, none of it looked at all like this:
Session Start: Wed Nov 29 21:31:38 2000
[9:31:45 p] <Maarken> I doubt that'd going to help much.
[9:31:52 p] <Maarken> see what I mean?
[9:32:4 p] <ugly13f> its okay its kind of funny
[9:32:10 p] <Maarken> really?
[9:32:27 p] <Maarken> anyway, if you really want somthing answered, let me
know. [9:32:27 p] <ugly13f> they kept asking me for my picture !! [9:32:43
p] <ugly13f> thanks !! [9:32:45 p] <Maarken> well, it would be nice to
know who we're talking to. [9:35:51 p] <Maarken> think of them as a group
of adults that don't like children. the only way to become accepted is to
grow up. in this case, age=knowledge. [9:39:38 p] <Maarken> my, you sure
are silent. [9:39:52 p] <ugly13f> i think inoshiro knows my brother!!
[9:40:8 p] <Maarken> who's your brother? [9:40:23 p] <Maarken> make0?
[9:40:25 p] <ugly13f> he said his name [9:40:29 p] <ugly13f> no! [9:41:4
p] <Maarken> what's his name? [9:41:39 p] <ugly13f> im not supposed to
talk about that stuff!! [9:41:45 p] <Maarken> shaw? [9:41:58 p] <ugly13f>
no [9:41:58 p] <Maarken> wargwolf? [9:42:4 p] <ugly13f> lol no [9:42:6 p]
<Maarken>
realname? [9:42:34 p] <ugly13f> his first name !! [9:42:47 p] <Maarken>
and you know, it's ok to his your brothers first name. [9:42:55 p]
<Maarken> Mine's Eric. How that? [9:43:7 p] <ugly13f> i dont know if he
really knows him or if he found it!! [9:43:45 p] <Maarken> what is it?
I'll know if he knows them or not. [9:43:49 p] <Maarken> we're friends.
[9:44:13 p] <ugly13f> he said chris ~~ [9:44:45 p] <Maarken> ah, then.
No, he found it. on philber.org I'd bet. [9:45:5 p] <ugly13f> whats that
!! [9:45:42 p] <Maarken> what IRC client are you using? I can tell you
where to look to explain it. [9:45:52 p] <ugly13f> i dont know !! [9:46:5
p] <Maarken> are you in windows? [9:47:9 p] <ugly13f> no im using his
thing [9:47:14 p] <ugly13f> its really hard to read !! [9:47:35 p] ->
[ugly13f] VERSION [9:47:54 p] <Maarken> I think you're in NetBSD. Cool.
[9:49:3 p] <ugly13f> that sounds okay [9:49:31 p] <Maarken> well, [snip]
is the hostname that you're connecting from. [9:49:39 p] <Maarken> and it
has a website. [9:49:49 p] <Maarken> that i guess mentioned Chris [9:49:58
p] <ugly13f> okay [9:50:37 p] <Maarken> by the way, kuro5hin isn't a
snowboarder channel. it goes with the website www.kuro5hin.org [9:51:44
p] <ugly13f> oh so k5 isnt snowboards?? [9:52:7 p] <Maarken> nope. it's
deep technical stuff about computers. [9:52:16 p] <Maarken> and whatever
pops up.
<Maarken> depends what you mean by "hacker". [9:53:17 p] <Maarken> do we
break into computers? no. are we *very* knowledgable about them? yes.
[9:53:37 p] <ugly13f> so you dont put viruses on computers?? [9:53:41 p]
<Maarken> no! [9:53:53 p] <Maarken> and if I were you, I wouldn't call
them hackers. [9:54:11 p] <ugly13f> why not [9:54:44 p] <Maarken> because
they'll think you mean "cracker" which means to break into computers, and
they'll get really mad. [9:55:7 p] <ugly13f> i thought thats what you call
white people lol [9:55:22 p] <ugly13f> lol inoshiro keeps spelling fuck
wrong!! [9:55:50 p] <Maarken> no, fsck is the linux command to make sure
your computer is ok, but it's become a geek swear. [9:56:38 p] <Maarken>
because it *looks* like fuck, but it's not frowned open because most
people don't understand. [9:56:55 p] <ugly13f> lol! [9:57:30 p] <ugly13f>
im hungry:(( [9:57:37 p] <Maarken> eat. [9:58:12 p] <ugly13f> so why do
you fuck your computers instead of naming it something else?? [9:58:39 p]
<Maarken> it's FileSystemChecK [9:58:46 p] <Maarken> hence, fsck [9:59:20
p] <ugly13f> dont people get confused ??? [9:59:31 p] <Maarken> not
really. [9:59:40 p] <Maarken> it's a context thing. [10:0:7 p] <ugly13f>
why not just fsc?? just to be rude??? [10:0:21 p] <Maarken> if you
complain about having to fsck your linux machine, they know you mean check
it's filesystem. if you say "FSCK!" then you're swearing. [10:0:37 p]
<Maarken> it's just what they guy named the command [10:1:0 p] <ugly13f>
he was probaly a pervert!! lol!! [10:1:18 p] <Maarken> maybe he just had a
sense of humor? [10:2:20 p] <ugly13f> not a very good one!! lol!! [10:3:1
p] <Maarken> most geeks think it's funny. [10:3:9 p] <Maarken> or atleast
amusing. [10:6:17 p] <Maarken> you know, I've tryed to be helpful, but I
think you're being lame for a reason. [10:6:35 p] <ugly13f> youre lame not
me!! [10:6:46 p] <ugly13f> lol! [10:6:51 p] <Maarken> <sigh> I'm done
here. [10:7:33 p] <Maarken> I think I'll show the rest of the guys this
log, so they know how lame you are. [10:7:35 p] <ugly13f> whyd you call me
lame??? [10:7:40 p] <Maarken> because you are? [10:7:45 p] <Maarken>
that'd be a good reason. [10:8:15 p] <ugly13f> you said you wouldnt tell
who my brother is!! [10:8:35 p] <Maarken> they know. [10:8:47 p] <Maarken>
Inoshiro said it. [10:9:30 p] <ugly13f> im sorry
later:
[10:11:28 p] <ugly13f> said you weren't hackers!!
[10:11:35 p] <Maarken> we aren't.
[10:11:43 p] <ugly13f> inoshiro just said my address!!!
[10:12:8 p] <Maarken> street address?
[10:12:17 p] <ugly13f> yes
[10:12:46 p] <Maarken> sure, it's
[snip]
[10:13:6 p] <Maarken> common knowledge.
[10:13:9 p] <ugly13f> What are you doing???
[10:13:17 p] <Maarken> heh
(This is CP0039)
[momocrome] hmmc ion/categories/men/adventure/pages/classic1.htm :( :( :| :(/ 674/46#46 :(( :-( :-)3 368 :( :( ...3 466 :-)3 512. net) has joined #adequacy. net) has joined #adequacy :(i celess_reduced.jpg
[Sulla] I've had enough of subtlety, county
[dmg] hey tarque
[Sulla] I've had a long week
[dmg] you seem to be in belgium
[dmg] or is that brazil ?
[Sulla] isn't br brazil?
[dmg] i think so
[momocrome] microsoft MSN has parental controls with age-specific settings like 'preteen' and 'teen'.
[momocrome] it is like a menu system for pederasts
[momocrome] I guess it would work for the FBI just as well
[First_Incision] have you ever wondered who is the narc on #adequacy?
[momocrome] the two groups will be the only ones in the chatrooms marked 'safe'
[momocrome] certainly
[momocrome] it could be me!
[Mohammed_Iqbal] I WANT TO GO HOME!
*** Mohammed_Iqbal is now known as shoeboy
[shoeboy] I don't want to be at work anymore
[momocrome] take a deep breath
[momocrome] they are ripping on you in trolltalk, shoeboy
[momocrome] perhaps you can strike back and burn off a little steam
[dmg] #adequacy is not what it seems First Incision.
[dmg] You are dealing with powers that you cannot begin to comprehend.
[shoeboy] why should I care?
[Lumpen] Where is trolltalk?
[momocrome] I don't think you should 'care', per se, just a way to blow off steam I thought I'd suggest
[momocrome] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721
[dmg] momocrome, that is top secret information.
[dmg] don't just spread it around like that.
[momocrome] gahsp!
[momocrome] my apologies. Lumpen, looks like you lucked out
[Lumpen] Oh. It's a slashdot thing. Blah.
[shoeboy] someone's been viewing my amazon.com user page
[shoeboy] hrm.. stockton's got 4 turnovers at the half
[shoeboy] fuck
[dmg] night all. Off to do some Top Secret MI6 work
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[shoeboy] oh yeah, some little nigger was ridiculing my shoes on the bus this morning
[shoeboy] that was obnoxious
[Sulla] what are your shoes like?
[shoeboy] New Ballance running shoes
[Sulla] trainers?
[shoeboy] yeah
[First_Incision] riding the bus, how communist
[Sulla] I don't blame him
[shoeboy] bah
[First_Incision] "trainers", there's a UKism for you.
[shoeboy] he was dressed like your typical urban black
[Sulla] anyone who wears trainers anywhere, though especially on a bus, deserves all they get
[First_Incision] they're sneakers, dammit. For sneaking up on the redcoats
[shoeboy] and looked like a clown college dropout
[Sulla] locally they get called sanshoes, FI, I actually thought I was using a USianism so you'd understand
[First_Incision] haha. I've actually never heard a non-UK person say trainers before.
[Lumpen] I call them "nigger boots."
[county] I think I'd just break down if some little nigger ridiculed my shoes.
[Sulla] you lot are acomplete disgrace
[county] Are we?
[First_Incision] somebody needs to ridicule my shoes. I deserve it.
[First_Incision] http://www.converse.com/shop/shop.asp?cat=sc
[county] I like my shoes.
[Sulla] Yes, county
[county] I wear black leather boots.
[First_Incision] My shoes are ugly as shit, but comfortable as heaven
[county] Mine look mighty sharp.
[Sulla] my shoes are black, leather, and constricting. They punish my feet, covering them in blisters and blood. I deserve it, though, and it is morally improving
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[county] Mine are similar, Sulla, but they don't draw blood.
*** Sulla is now known as bc
[county] Or cause blisters, really.
[county] They're stern, though.
[bc] mine really do
[bc] fucking agony, they are
[First_Incision] mine are like walking on pillows
[county] I've walked over five miles a day in mine without blisters, just soreness.
[county] When they were brand new, though, they caused blisters.
[county] I had to break them, though! And they had to break me.
[county] It was very sexual.
[bc] I do more than 5 miles usually, and by God, every step is pain
[bc] every step sends shockwaves of sheer agony around my foot and up my leg
[county] Why don't you get more comfortable shoes?
[bc] and after my ritual 5000 steps every day, I feel like a new man. I feel improved. I feel like the sin has been flushed out.
[bc] because I deserve the agony, county
[bc] I'm a bad fellow, and this is my self imposed cross
[First_Incision] http://www.panama-jack.com/havanajoe/INGLES/colec
[county] Anyway, I'm going to tell my story about female cruelty on the bus.
[bc] to bear
[county] I get on the bus with four other girls, three of them are together.
[county] I mean with four girls.
[First_Incision] I also have a pair of these that are 3 years old, I trust they will last my whole life.
[county] I'm a guy, of course. Heh.
[county] The lone girl tries to be friendly with the three, and they're quite terse and rude, and then when she gets off, they spend the next five minutes mocking her.
[county] It made me weep.
[bc] Yes. You'd never do something like that, of course.
[county] I wouldn't.
[county] She was quite pretty, too.
[county] Her face had a strange, intense look to it.
[bc] perhaps you should have recorded the conversation the girl had and slipped it into her pocket anonymously come monday
[bc] girl/girls
[county] Her voice and attitude were intoxicating in their simplicity and ingenuousness!
[county] And I will never see her again
[county] The other girls were ill-formed masses of pimpled, greasy, misshapen flesh.
[county] The soul truly is reflected in the face and body.
*** momocrome is now known as Yanni
[shoeboy] indeed
[bc] Fascinating county, but, considering that you have shown your capcity for malice here many times, I suspect that while you doubtless thought this girl pure and interesting, you in fact liked her because she was similar to yourself (the usual reason for attraction) - full of malice. I suspect the criticism of the other girls (who were likely good, and therefore opposed to you, and quite alien) was justified.
[shoeboy] this is why I can't wipe the smirk off my face no matter how hard I try
[county] I didn't see any reason to suppose this girl courted malice, bc.
[county] Anyway, I think it's been well-established that I can't take it, at all.
[county] I wouldn't be attracted to a cruel person.
* Yanni is the man for you, county
[county] Sorry, Yanni, I don't like fatties.
[Yanni] I will sooth your soul.
[Yanni] I am not fat!
[county] 225 lbs is pretty damn fat.
[Yanni] http://www.physics.drexel.edu/~kim/yanni.GIF
[bc] marry me?
[Yanni] I am intensely well muscled, by nature.
[Yanni] and at a firm 6'2", can hardly be counted amongst the fatties
[county] I'm 6'2", though.
[Yanni] you are a bean pole
[Yanni] 160 lbs?
[county] bc, I feel like such a wretched fool for not talking to this girl and getting rejected!
[county] No, more like 170-175.
[Yanni] hey, you guys want to know a secret?
[Yanni] Luisa is a man. a cowboy, no less.
[bc] The value of work is socially defined, and usually done so for the benefit of those in charge; those with the most power and influence. --Infinitera
[bc] Is he retarded????????
[county] No, he's correct.
[bc] Shut up.
[county] Also, I'd like to point out the Gun N' Roses is the best band ever.
[county] Would you hit it? http://www.cyborgasmatrix.com/
[First_Incision] that's anatomically correct? No, I would not hit it. Not even a real woman that looked like that.
[county] The face made me laugh.
[Yanni] be sure to visit the torso gallery
[county] I didn't get past the front page.
[county] I figured it couldn't get any better!
[Yanni] this is horrifying
[First_Incision] when's the Internet going to bring about the downfall of western civillization. It seems to be about time now.
[Yanni] Available
[Yanni] Now!
[Yanni] Torso with head starts at $920
[Yanni] no arms or legs with that
[county] Oh, no!
[county] It's wrong that they would sell that.
[county] The whole idea of a fake woman is ridiculous.
[Yanni] you can buy just the upper torso
[Yanni] $395 for breasts and shoulders only
[county] I wonder if they've had any takers at all.
[First_Incision] yes, county, that is why we are ridiculing it
[county] I can't imagine anyone would want it.
[Yanni] see MPG
[Yanni] video of breasts
[Yanni] being kneeded
[Yanni] 1.4 MB ]
[county] Frankly, I'm just not seeing a niche market between masturbation and actual women.
[county] Those two seem to have the demand pretty much satisfied.
[Yanni] perhaps it will become an appliance as common as a refrigerator or microwave oven
[county] For $920, you could have a girlfriend for a month or two.
[Yanni] reading into a little, these dolls talk, have articulated skeletons
[county] For $920, you could masturbate for decades!
[First_Incision] the e-conomy is all about inventing niche markets that don't exist.
[Yanni] $920 would get you 2 hours with a clean-ish whore
[county] For $920 I could buy a fancy hat that would get that wonderful bus girl to notice me.
[county] I'm having scads of fun falling in infatuation with girls from the bus. I hadn't anticipated this at all, but it's immensely enjoyable.
[Yanni] for $920 / month, you could afford a fancy enough car to get a bell town beauty
[county] Oh boy!
[Yanni] Final warning to Vladequacy. (Score:0)
[Yanni] by Anonymous Coward on 11-15-02 07:28 PM (#4683239)
[county] I hope that little feud doesn't end bloodlessly.
[First_Incision] 01,9904 01I hate it when I forget about dinner and get hungry late at night01,99
[county] Have some beans.
[First_Incision] I don't keep food stocked. I suppose I must go get some food from a local muslim late-nite eatery
[county] Why don't you keep food stocked?
[First_Incision] because I live off of fast food.
[county] Oh.
[Yanni] a med student
[Yanni] perhaps fat
[county] I buy a pre-prepared meal once each week.
[First_Incision] I have put on 15 pounds since I started.
[Yanni] Margeret Thatcher has ingested my semen. _five times_.
[county] Every Sunday, I purchase a gyro.
[First_Incision] I shall return with hommos
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[county] It seems that buying one's meals would get expensive.
[Yanni] (snicker). he said homos
[county] Do you have the Mrs. cook for you, Yanni?
[Yanni] mostly
[Yanni] i sometimes prefer to get a beef-based product though
[Yanni] she'll only do chicken if she's cooking for us
[county] Do you two ever compromise on pork?
[Yanni] Vladequacy
[Yanni] no. she doesn't like to eat mammals
[Yanni] trollaxor is gone berserk
[county] I don't eat much beef.
[county] Chicken and pork, mostly, and some lamb.
[shoeboy] cock!
[county] Don't eat much of that, no.
[shoeboy] sulla does
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[wsl3] Jesus H Christ, what the fuck is going on in trolltalk???
[county] Why not read it and find out?
[Yanni] I am about to post a doozy
*** Yanni is now known as momocrome
[county] What's trolltalk's URL, by the way?
[momocrome] what would be a slick way of 'proclaiming a royal blacklist' for the phoneboy cabal?
[momocrome] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721
[county] Tell them that Vladinator is now officially displeased with them.
[momocrome] I am coming at them as the rightful King of trolltalk
[bc] ha! I got 0ed
[momocrome] because years ago, I won the battle of the sids
[bc] my post is invisible
[momocrome]
[county] =)
[county] I 0ed you.
[wsl3] heh
[bc] bastard, county
[bc] unzero me!
[county] I can't!
[momocrome] bah!
[bc] why not?
[wsl3] Yeah, tell them that Vlad's going to unleash the full power of Vladiquacy on thier asses.
[momocrome] county is hardly the 'trusted user'! ! !
[wsl3] LOL
[county] Because your post deserved a 0.
[bc] why?
[wsl3] Why on earth did they lump you guys in with me anyway?
[county] Actually, momocrome, I have a quite famous account that's trusted.
[county] I'm just telling stories, bc
[wsl3] bc - url? I'll 5 it for ballance.
[county] I haven't 0 anything in ages.
[bc] http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/11/15/17928
[bc] there
[bc] invisible
[bc] I always get picked on
[county] You were trolled by infinitera?
[county] Oh man.
[bc] who 0ed me anyway, vlad?
[wsl3] bc - I don't know - I'm no longer TU it seems thanks to those assholes.
[bc] heh
[county] I stand stride the storm, untouched by it! I will never be robbed of trustedness!
[wsl3] I shall now have to start yet another k5 account with which to gain TU back.
[county] "astride"
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[wsl3] Or rather, have Dave do it since I'm on K5 restriction.
[First_Incision] praise Allah, hommos!
[wsl3] So seriously, when did this bullshit "Vladiquacy" malarky start poping up?
[county] You're spelling it incorrectly, big guy.
[wsl3] Oh, Vladaquacy?
[wsl3] s/Vladiquacy/Vladaquacy then.
[momocrome] here, I will post my post
[county] That spelling still doesn't make sense.
[county] "Vladequacy" is the only reasonable spelling.
[momocrome] vladequacy
[county] I should know, too, for I am osm.
[wsl3] Well well well. Hello Phone Boy.
[momocrome] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
[county] Hello, Vlad.
[wsl3] So it was you.
[momocrome] it will just get flooded off the page, judging by recent activity
[wsl3] Why?
[momocrome] but I have cast my lot
[wsl3] Sweet! You even posted it loged in!
[county] Why? Be more specific.
[momocrome] oh yes
[momocrome] I left you out of it
[momocrome] vlad,
[wsl3] Why did you do this? I don't recall ever even pissing you off directly. You've always been around, but we've never really bumped into one another so to speak.
[wsl3] momocrome: I'm talking to county actually.
[momocrome] bah
[momocrome] I know, and I think you are getting your chain pulled
[county] Vladinator, you're just really, really irritating. I don't know how else to put it.
[momocrome] if county is osm, I am spiralx
[wsl3] lol
[momocrome] corpus memento
[wsl3] hard to tell, he's on attbi and is cloaked (like me).
[wsl3] county: I'm not suprised that you would say that... That still doesn't prove you're OSM.
[county] Just like momocrome.
[momocrome] aww.
[wsl3] momo I know and can vouch for.
[county] I don't feel the need to prove anything. Anyway, why are you not surprised? Are you aware that most people find you extremely obnoxious?
[wsl3] county == qpt much more likely.
[wsl3] You sound like him/her/it anyway
[wsl3] momo - that was great.
[county] momocrome, you're getting hit on.
[momocrome] it is too weak
[momocrome] knee jerk
[momocrome] I have to go through the frozen lasagna in the oven. bbiab
[First_Incision] I like how Fox News doesn't respect Godwin's Law
[First_Incision] The INS is letting in illegal immigrants. They are following orders from Congress and the President. "Just like Nazi Germany"
[First_Incision] letting in immigrants, like Nazi Germany?
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[county] I really need to work up the courage to talk to one of these bus babes.
[county] They really are fantastic.
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[Sulla] blh
[county] In fact, entirely apart from the bus, I'm surrounded by babes, none of whom I talk to
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[county] What's wrong with me?
[Sulla] are you shy?
[county] I blame society.
[county] And bc.
[county] Am I shy.
[county] That's an interesting question.
[Sulla] I'm not in society?
[county] Yes and no, really.
[momocrome] ah, the real hit to my post has appeared
[county] I'm mostly just shy around women I'm attracted to.
[Sulla] so reserved rather than inhibited?
[wsl3] That latest one is too long to read...
[wsl3] We need something new in there already...
[wsl3] Hey, I know...
[wsl3]
[county] Generally, yes, Sulla.
[wsl3] Much better.
[county] And when I do talk to women I'm attracted to, I'm just biting and cutting.
[wsl3] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
[county] Boy, do they have your number! ==] William Scott "Pinkrectum Floyd" Lockwood III
[wsl3] That was a dodge anyway - I've been very careful not to violate the terms of the agreement with that account.
[wsl3] It worked VERY well.
[momocrome] vlad, I'd bet you could get taco to release log data regarding these current posts
[wsl3] Nope.
[wsl3] Tried.
[wsl3] Was told they don't keep those details, and to talk to their lawyer.
[momocrome] write him again, just with the links
[momocrome] and say, look man. these are actual crimes
[momocrome] slander, harassment, etc
[momocrome] it will at least get taco into the mix
[momocrome] it would be fun to see him post to trolltalk again
[wsl3] Been there, done that. His only response was "I know it sucks, but they've done it to me too."
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[wsl3] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
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[yap] can i spill some rap in here
[wsl3] sURE
[wsl3] Why not?
[yap] maybe later
[yap] im thinking i should read up on a subject
[yap] to impress people i will meet
[yap] in the future
[wsl3] taxonomy.
[wsl3] That's a good one.
[yap] hold on
[yap] httP://www.yourdictionary.com
[wsl3] bbiab
* wsl3 &
[yap] och
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*** sleeep (~happy@dialup-65.59.59.170.Dial1.Houston1.Level3
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[First_Incision] luisa awakens?
[luisa|||] no.
[county] Enter the luisa.
[First_Incision] this commercial really makes me want to go to Bermuda. It's truly effective advertising.
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[momocrome] county, so harsh!
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[First_Incision] Edmund Hilary? Pitching SUVs?
[county] Harsh, momocrome? When? How?
[momocrome] coy?
[momocrome] i see how it is!
[momocrome] you are the only person who knows I might have used to have a mustqang automobile!
[county] I'm really confused!
[momocrome] of course I realize it isn't a mustqang
[momocrome] and I suppose you aren't the only person
[county] I don't have any idea what you're talking about
[momocrome] there is a mean post in trolltalk telling me to 'go peel out in your mustang and shut the fuck up'
[momocrome] and I was being so nice.
[county] Oh.
[county] That isn't me.
[momocrome] of course
[county] However, I get the feeling that someone who hangs out in here is being nasty in trolltalk.
[momocrome] I was just hoping to drag this silly drama into slashnet. or not.
[county] I take out all my aggression on on darling little luisa.
[momocrome] it must be 70% or em!
[momocrome] you guys please don't suck like that. thanks in advance.
[momocrome] oh dear. If I am going to play in trolltalk, drink and chat in here, I really aught to pick only two.
[sleepingurl] drinking is silly
[momocrome] my apologies
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[county] Drinking is essential.
[luisa||||] i wish i hadn't gotten home so late
[county] Why?
[luisa||||] now i can't go out carousing
[county] What were you out doing before?
[luisa||||] hanging out at a friend's house
[First_Incision] haha, I'm watching a thing on police snipers. They are shooting at baloons pulled by remote control toy trucks
[county] I am engaging in mental and emotional flagellation.
[luisa||||] my brother's in jail
[county] For what?
[luisa||||] which means he is unemployed again
[First_Incision] luisa||||: seriously? what did he do, or what is he acused of?
[luisa||||] he had a warrant
[county] If he would just go to prison, he could have a job making license plates.
[luisa||||] because he was stupid and failed to sort a prior ticket
[momocrome] a warrant for love.
[luisa||||] nah, it was a moving violation, not criminal stuff
[luisa||||] that's what makes it so stupid
[First_Incision] but failure to appear in court?
[luisa||||] yeah, but they took their time issuing the warrant
[luisa||||] like months
[First_Incision] yeah, it's an overworked/overcrowded system
[luisa||||] so he figured he could coast until he saved enough to pay it off
[luisa||||] no, small towns are slow to issue, big cities are quick to
[First_Incision] do you live with your brother?
[luisa||||] god, no
[luisa||||] i moved out last month
[First_Incision] ok
[First_Incision] are they gonna set a bail?
[First_Incision] I could see luisa|||| getting a romantic involvement with a bounty hunter from all of this. It would make a good movie.
[luisa||||] haha
[luisa||||] most bounty hunters are not Extremely Attractive
[First_Incision] I've never known any
[county] I happen to hunt bounties.
[luisa||||] stop lying
[First_Incision] his lies are always worth telling
[luisa||||] haha
[First_Incision] heh, secret service snipers shooting at grassy knolls
[luisa||||] christ i'm hungry
[First_Incision] you should visit your local all-nite muslim eatery, and get some hommos. It worked for me.
[luisa||||] hummus, darling
[luisa||||] and the nearby all night ethnic place is greek here
[luisa||||] so it would be gyros
[First_Incision] that's how they spell it on the menu at my local restaurant. I think Usamah has taught us that u's and o's are the same thing
[county] I'll post your brother's bail, luisa, if you'll make me something with lamb while wearing a too-short skirt.
[county] Deal?
[luisa||||] i would do that for no charge whatsoever
[First_Incision] hey, you're Texan. I'll post his bail if you introduce me to a Bush daughter
[luisa||||] hahaha
[luisa||||] those girls are hard-drinking hussies
[luisa||||] whatever would you want with them?
[county] First_Incision needs a hard-drinking hussy.
[First_Incision] Republican beeotches. Irresistable
[luisa||||] heheh
[First_Incision] They have political connections!
[First_Incision] "Meeting the parents" would entail meeting the most powerful man in the world!
[luisa||||] uh, he's a figurehead
[county] For who?
[county] Please don't say the Illuminati.
[First_Incision] and that's a reason not to date his daughter?
[county] Are his daughters attractive?
[First_Incision] The Illuminati are irrelavant. It's all Al Quaeda now.
[First_Incision] county: yes.
[county] The more vowels that can be included in the spelling of "Al Quaeiedaa," the better, I say.
[First_Incision] http://www.newsrebel.com/Images/bush_daughters_pr
[First_Incision] Al Quaeda is the real-life world conspiracy.
[county] Is that them?
[county] They look drunk.
[First_Incision] yeah
[First_Incision] they are always drunk.
[county] I don't find hard-drinking women appealing.
[momocrome] those girls have caused untold suffering and terror?
[First_Incision] I find it reassuring that when Western Civilization finally implodes, it will be replaced by a global Caliphate, and not some lame Asian thing.
[First_Incision] or, E. Asian, I should say.
[momocrome] I think China is in the lead
[momocrome] they just hired a new guy to capitalize things
[First_Incision] China=COMMUNISM. There's no way.
[momocrome] nope
[momocrome] Zemin just retired and they put an MBA in place
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] talk about smoking crack...
Date sent: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 23:26:33 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0007)
Hi. I couldn't stay away, so I scrounged up some 'net
access. Hi.
I was talking with rusty indirectly about this, last
night. He was asking me why I wanted k5 Anne Marie's
nick -- that is, why I wanted to carry that "slashdot
baggage" over with me to k5, the same way siggy did.
It's funny, that way. I wanted k5 Anne Marie because
it's a lovely character troll of mine. Siggy wanted
"Signal 11" because it's the only way he's ever gotten
a lot of (any) attention. He's afraid to be just
Bojay Iverson, and it really comes across.
(This is CP0007)
From: cptroll
l k&cid=141#141).
/.
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Re: and the Troll Thesis spreads further...
Date sent: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:20:25 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0002)
Actually, k5trolltalk has been more for bullshitting than for trolling
(much like this mailing list), and most of my trolls have been kept to
myself, alas. Still, there's a certain private joy in making rusty's head
spin (http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=trollta
=?iso-8859-1?q?I=20am=20Troll?= <i_am_troll@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>I didn't know there was a K5 trolltalk, or otherwise I
>wouldn't have posted those links to GeekCulture here
>when they were already mentioned on trolltalk. I
>didn't even realise that you'd all left the
>trolltalk, I just thought you'd got sick of the noise
>there and started keeping your trolls to yourselves
>(like I do).
(This is CP0002)
ANATOMY OF AN ASSHOLE
And you thought this was just going to be another
goats.cx link. Close. During
this bloody war with Mr. Lockwood, several interested lookers-on have commented,
"Yeah, Vlad is a fat, disgusting piece of shit, but why do you hate him that
much?? Do you berate your own feces before you flush it??" This is a question
which must be answered. Here, I will present to you just a few reasons for despising
William Scott Lockwood III. Read these with an open mind and an eye toward moral
clarity and I am certain you will reach the same conclusion that I and others have:
Lardinator Has To Go.
This is the face of a
child-molestor. It is no coincidence that Lockwood 3's children live all the
way on the other side of the country. His wife at the time (just one in a
continuous stream of buffalo), could not get her brood far enough away from the
cold clammy probing fingers of Lardinator. And knowing what a low-life piece of
white-trash her ex-husband is, she knew that Lardo would not spring for so much
as a ride in a 67 Mercury Comet to "see" his hell-spawn. Child molestors are
generally sexually abused in their own youth.
Take a long look at
the tortured echos of a deprived childhood.
Crapflooder Extraordinaire (note: I
know these are some big words, Scottie. Don't worry your little head about it.
Just rest assured you are being exposed for the worthless fuck you are).
William Scott Lockwood III used his third-rate troll site
Geekizoid to encourage the crap-flooding
and general assault of websites he deemed inappropriate. This included a tech site
oriented toward females, an animal rights site, child abuse sites (see above
paragraph for why Scotty found that one inappropriate), a site aimed at giving
advice to troubled teens and various other sites where people generally minded
their own business, blissfully unaware of the stinking mound of manure who had
eyed them for destruction only to sate his own appetite for power. When the
admin of one of those sites (yeah, it was mine) decided to give little Pecker-head
a taste of his own shit, it was suddenly a bad thing! Why, he was going to involve
the law! He was sending his server logs to EVERYONE in order to figure out who
was spanking his little butt good (he never did).
Idiot Supreme.
Yep, you read that right, folks. Fatty can't even read his own server logs!
And he wants YOU to buy a scoop "server" from him!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! We can see from
this old post that Fatty
dropped out of high-school. That would explain quite a bit.
Hypocrite Extreme.
Mr. Lardinator has a nasty habit of complaining to those who run message boards. He
constantly accused Rob Malda of being a hypocrite (a word Mr. Lardinator can't even
spell properly). He has also complained incessantly about K5's Rusty and others. Of
course, you now know from the Crapflooding paragraph, that Mr. Lardinator is the
biggest (in more ways than one) H Y P O C R I T E of them all.
Well, that's it for now. I can and will post more later, but I will let
you digest this in pieces. And please, join the crusade. It is the only way.
From: Ceee Peee
/. after a long series of trolls, it's time to whore [the queue] again.
/. ever was. My intentions and hopes aren't to destroy k5 but to become a watershed event in its history, fit to go into next year's year-in-review. Looks like I'm succeeding.
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] the real anne marie stood up
Date sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:24:36 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0016)
Agreed, but I have to find better ones. As much as I liked the dementia-causes-popmusic-preference one, the k5 crowd just didn't care. Like on
One of these days I'm going to write an op/ed meta story called "Hi, I'm Anne Marie. You're all hypocrites." But I think I'll hold back, now.
BTW, the ktb=educatedescort cries are hilarious, at least to me. Soon, rusty'll have to change k5's motto to "Technology and culture from the trenches and stuff about Anne Marie". I'd feel remorse, but a) I like the attention and b) I give k5 more credit than that; it's more resilient than
--- jlb wrote:
> As those of you who are interested have probably
> already seen, the real
> anne marie has posted a story on k5 saying that
> she's not the AM account
> on k5 or slashdot. She apparently put something in
> the html source of her
> educatedescort site saying as much.
>
> My advice to cp: keep posting stories like nothing,
> at all, has changed.
>
> -lb
>
> --
> "Is this real?"
> "Does it matter?"
>
(This is CP0016)
If you check out the safeharbour forums on Ebay, this is not a rare occurance. There are many scam sites and spam emails which try to socially engineer credit card info and passwords from Ebay users.
I really don't know why this particular instance was picked up by the big news corporations....
-- 7 string electric violin + live loop samplers
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Let's try this one again: gbd et al
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 18:22:12 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0030)
cptroll <cptroll@linuxstart.com> wrote:
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: 25 Date: Thu Oct 26 2
>I've been in touch with gbd via email. (He doesn't want me to share his
>address with anyone, and I'm respecting that.) Apparently, the fellow
>has big plans, but he's aufully vague and evasive about everything, so
>it's hard to say what's what. I do have his physical location nailed
>down to a certain one of the fifty states, and it's an odd one.
>
>I asked him about his scheme of capitalization, and this was the best
>answer I could get from him: "as far as why i capitalize things i do it
>to EMPHASIZE things that should be stressed, i know that you can do this
>with html but i am too lazy, hehe."
>
>Yes, he stays true to his form, even in email. The upshot is, I gave him
>his account, and he's all squared away with that.
>
>What an odd fellow!
(This is CP0030)
In Soviet Russia, article reads you!
From: cptroll
d =2755) so I make up an
B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
t .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0028)
I'm trying to give george his account back
(http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&ci
appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
prick he is, sends me this email:
>From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
>17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
[snip]
>X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
>Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
>MIME-Version: Ê1.0
>Content-Type: Êmultipart/alternative;
>boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C03D18.DD858
>X-MSMail-Priority: ÊNormal X-Mailer: ÊMicrosoft Outlook Express
>5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: ÊProduced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
>Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
>
>okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?
Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postne
If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.
(This is CP0028)
It is time to set the record straight regarding the situation with respect
to Vladinator/JCB/Reza/Lonesome Cowboy Burt/Whatever other aliases he may be
using. The situation has been confused due to the recent world-wide influx
of Vlad-haters, helper-cells, interested third parties and the occasional
Vlad sympathizer.
Let us start with a basic tenet of the Association of Anti-Vlad Avengers:
There is no difference between William Scott Lockwood III and those who
aid him, give him comfort, and/or use him as a substandard, "Always Save"
hosting solution. Though we may have no direct quarrel with you, Mr. "Trollaxor",
you appear to be friendly with Mr. Lockwood and - by your own admission - are
using him as a substandard "Always Save" hosting solution. Consider the fact
that if you were using a respectable host for your web site, you would not be
having the difficulties you are having now. Also, with this attempt at
ferreting out information for Mr. Lockwood, you are aiding and abetting our
sworn enemy and have aligned yourself in direct oposition to a powerful
internet force (that is, the AAA and its splinter groups).
This brings us to a primary characteristic of the AAA which has
been detailed elsewhere, but which I will repeat here in interest of
completeness: no single cell, as an entity, is aware of the members of
any other cell. The structure of our association works as follows. Each
cell is composed of no more and no less than three members who all reside in
a roughly similar geographic area. One of the three members is designated
as a messenger. This messenger is the only member in contact with a messenger
from exactly two other cells. In this way, the members of each cell remain
anonymous to the members of any other cell. If a messenger has been compromised,
the corresponding cell is responsible for "cleansing" that messenger and
replacing him or her with a new messenger. Such a cell will remain on
probation - meaning they will only be allowed contact with a single other
cell - until such time as the new messenger has been operating for no less
than six months.
Our activities are clandestine and even if another cell wanted to
share the information you request, it would not be able to because it
would not be privy to said information.
As you can see the AAA, though very loosely connected, operates
in a highly efficient manner and is deadly serious about the stated goals
of the organization: namely, the complete, unconditional eradication of
Vladinator, in any and all forms, from the internet.
We have been following the current situation with Vladinator's hosting
service quite closely and we estimate the damages to be severe at this point.
However, we cannot agree to end our champaign any sooner than already decided
upon. We may have shown mercy in this, our second major attack, if Mr.
Lockwood had shown the proper degree of humility at our hands. Instead,
Mr. Lockwood responded with his usual barrage of
lies
and vitriol.
For this reason, and the fact that we are otherwise bored, we have extended the
length of this attack. We realize that Mr. Lockwood's hosting company will try
various tricks to deflect our attack, things such as firewalls and IP banning. Eventually,
they will succeed in eliminating the current attack at which point we will rest for
a period of not less than seven days prior to initiating another attack.
We predict that the end of this second wave will result in another round of
cockiness from Mr. Lockwood, given the highly reactionary character that he is.
The next attack, which will be the "third wave", will be far more subtle than the
current attack and will undoubtedly shake Mr. Lockwood's faith in his current
alliances and dealings. This cycle of attack/end attack/Lockwood gets cocky/
attack again is necessary to wear down Mr. Lockwood's self-confidence and
general desire for continued existence.
As for the fate of Trollaxor.com, I would suggest you find a more suitable,
respectable host for your web site. Had you chosen your hosting solution more
wisely to begin with, you would not find yourself in the same sinking ship with
the rest of Lockwood's "customers". We would also like to remind you that it
is not we who are the enemy, it is William Scott Lockwood III who has
brought this upon himself and those who do business with him. Yes, our attacks
have been harsh and our dealings with Mr. Lockwood have been merciless, but simply
going over Mr. Lockwood's internet history shows that our cause is just and in the
best interests of the internet community at large. If we must sacrifice "innocent"
sites such as yours and kuro5hin, then so be it. It is a very small price to pay
for a truly Vladinator-free internet. An internet where true innocents can browse,
write and engage in discussion without fear of being choked at the hands of a
slobbering troglydite with bad glands
and a spastic colon.
There may have been something else more specific on the main page, but this page is all that seems to be left.
Sex - Find It
From: cptroll
) and pioneer an entirely PICTOGRAPHIC version (http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/noway/112100c.shtml ).
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] why the internet rules
Date sent: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:29:43 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0037)
Did you get that from ilovebacon.com? Because if you did, then I'm disappointed you didn't note how those industrious Germans are at it again. Who else could pick up on the failure of dogs to read their 'no pooping' signs (http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/noway/110300.shtml
Without such innovation at home, it's little wonder Amerika is scraping
the bottom of the corporate barrel abroad.
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>http://www.d111.k12.id.us/BHS/BHS.htm
(This is CP0037)
From: Ceee Peee
/ 41541/13290&cid=8#8
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] advice?
Date sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:01:38 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0015)
Any advice about what to do about this?:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2001/1/7
(outing anne marie as cp)
I'm just planning to ignore it as it's a score:2
editorial at the bottom of a submission that might not
get accepted anyway. But feel free to mod it down
some more if the mood strikes you. I can cope with
being publicly outed, but I'd rather avoid it all the same.
(This is CP0015)
I've seen four charges from eBay.com on my c'card in the last 5 months.... I have never, ever used eBay for anything...zero. I contacted eBay and they promised to halt the activity and reverse the charges...no action. I went to my Bank...they refunded the monies and cancelled the card. They told me eBay stole the money and they helped me file a complaint with the c'card company.
[luisa|||] i don't know if i can ever be that weak and female ... So you had no Mr.Buck temptations .. :) .... my tongue feels funny and I like to lick things (people). I need a voice of reason to keep me out of trouble. ... :\/ 674/65#65 ;)3 .net) has joined #adequacy ... firefighters, police, nurses, teachers ;)t ml :-) :-) :-) lol ;P
[luisa|||] i.e. find a guy worth that loss
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[county] Why is it weak to confess your feelings to the one you feel for?
[luisa|||] because then they've got you in the knees
[luisa|||] why should i always be the one who cares the most?
[luisa|||] and on top of that, have to cop to it?
[Linux] hey grewat, big cop bust outside
[county] Because, luisa, somebody has to, and if it's them, you'll reject them.
[county] I'm not seeing many other options. How about you?
[Linux] shouting and threatening tones
[Linux] I am going to go walk the dogs past the bust while drunk
[county] What bust?
[Linux] dunno
[Linux] they are shouting at drunks, I think
[county] Who?
[Linux] maybe there will be death
[Linux] cops
[Linux] many of them
[Linux] 8 cars at least
[luisa|||] eek
[Linux] maybe I'll get shot
[county] There are 8 cop-cars full of cops shouting at drunks?
[Linux] yes
[Linux] two drunks by the sound of things
[luisa|||] county, if i find a guy i consider my equal
[luisa|||] it would all work out
[Linux] they are right past the corner of my building
[luisa|||] wait
[luisa|||] eight cops, two drunks?
[luisa|||] that is Not Right.
[Linux] i think so
* luisa||| waits for a cool song to come on
[county] You've never met a guy who you consider your equal?
[Linux] luisa|||, are you actually listening to radio broadcasts of popualr music?
[county] I suppose that makes sense, actually. Most are probably your superior or inferior.
[county] I think it's fairly obvious which side I fall on.
[luisa|||] you could be inferior
[luisa|||] but you probably know lots of things i don't
[luisa|||] and you also are more productive in daily life
[county] I am so far beyond you, luisa.
[county] Come on.
[luisa|||] i love cheesy 80s music
[luisa|||] nah, you are just different
[luisa|||] the measure would be if i made you feel weak and helplessly resentful
[luisa|||] that's inferior
[luisa|||] and only assessable face to face
[Linux] luisa|||, you spin me twice 'round, baby.
[county] If you made me feel weak and helplessly resentful? Haha.
[luisa|||] well, anyone who feels like a lesser person probably is
[luisa|||] or at least is not worth bothering with
[em] you guys still going on about this? God.
[county] Only a few people have made me inferior, and none of them were at all like you.
[luisa|||] it is friday night and neither of us are out carousing, em
[luisa|||] whatever did you expect would occur?
[em] neither am I.
[luisa|||] but you are at uni
[county] em, have you been drinking?
[em] well, I went to a chamber chorale concert.
[em] county: not a drop
[em] maybe I should.
[county] Probably. It makes you more tolerant.
[luisa|||] anyhow, county, it is all moot
[luisa|||] i am not going to bed with you
[luisa|||] so the question of whether you are inferior or not will never come up
[county] I'm not going to bed with you. What of it?
[county] Anyway, it has come up, and it's been settled. I'm superior.
[luisa|||] if you feel that you are
[luisa|||] i do rather want to go to bed
[luisa|||] but i just finished supper
* em wonders if he has anything edible in the fridge.
[luisa|||] i have lovely soup i made from random ingredients
[Linux] katsup is a vegetable
[luisa|||] only for bachelors
[luisa|||] lord, it is four am rising
[county] It's "catsup" or "ketchup."
[luisa|||] okbed
*** luisa||| is now known as gurl
[Linux] night, wheesie
[Linux] I am really nothing like a viking, btw
[county] Oh, I'm sure.
*** Linux is now known as momocrome
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*** momocrome has quit IRC (Quit: )
*** gurl has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 300 seconds)
*** bc (gallus@modem-3167.panther.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #adequacy
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*** Marco` (nightfall@cloaked.tlv.netvision.net.il) has joined #adequacy
[Marco`] Hi
[Marco`] Anyone alive?
* Marco` 's off
*** Marco` has quit IRC (Quit: Going down now)
[me0w] g'morning
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[bc] hello
[me0w] Hi bc
[bc] hellow me0wsy
* bc was just in the pub
[bc] and you know what?
[me0w] What?
[bc] a woman in her late forties started coming onto me something dreadful
[bc] unlike some, I wasn't in the least tempted
[me0w] Ahhh
[bc] certainly not
[me0w] Well done!
[bc] it's not a great achievement, I think these things are in your nature.
[bc] Either you adore OAP's, or you don't.
[bc] cool
[bc] scotland beat south africa at the rugby!
[me0w] I think though, in Mr. Buck's case, he may have been wearing some good quality Beer Goggles.
[bc] that's a point. Still, I did have 3 pints, I wasn't entirely sober, but probably not as many Mr Buck. I think alcohol just decreases your reserve, it doesn't make you suddenly find things attractive you don't while sober
[bc] I mean, if you wake up after a night out with a member of your own sex (for example), it prolly says something
* bc has some prawns
[me0w] This is why everyone needs a voice of reason when drinking. I take mine along whenever I am going to be consuming cast quantities of alcohol (the voice of reason is also known as the designated driver).
[bc] hehe
[me0w] cast = vast
[bc] strange, I don't have problems. In fact, I reject much more impressively and fullsomely when drunk than when sober. I don't need no stinkin' voice of reason!
[me0w] When I am intoxicated I run across a problem
[bc] haha! I remember you mentioning this before. That's an awful affliction, though prolly pretty amusing
[me0w] And apparently I become quite the mischevious girl and for this I also need the voice.
[bc] to stop you mixing it up too much? Playing tricks and pranks
[me0w] And the licking
[bc] this makes you sound like quite the handful when pissed
[me0w] A giggly handful, yes.
[me0w] That's why I need a voice of reason.
[bc] I don't think I'm too bad when drunk. In fact, I'm often the voice of reason for other people, despite that we have all drunk hideous amounts. I'm just the same as usual, but more exhuberantly, I suppose. I think I have a good head for booze by nature, that's prolly why
[bc] mm that was tasty
[bc] post-prandial smoke time
[me0w] enjoy
* bc wonders whether to watch "contact" on dvd, which he has, but hasn't watched, though he read the book years ago
[bc] which I liked, I liked the way it was all about revelation, and its validity
[bc] the woman in it was sort of like a hardcore kurobot at first, you know, utterly logical positivist and materialist and dismissive of anything that can't be proved utterly, of revelation, till it all comes back and bites her when she has her own revelatory experience
[me0w] I don't think I have ever seen this film.
[bc] it's supposed to be decent.
[bc] I think a lot of people hated it, and another lot of people loved it
[me0w] I will have to add it to my must see list of films.
[bc] it's a sort of SF thing, in a way, and I think a lot of the people who disliked it were expecting some usual guns'n'aliens shite
[me0w] I normally don't watch 'alien' movies.
[bc] it's not really like that. The book wasn't at least. It's set present day
[bc] they discover an alien signal
[bc] this woman does
[bc] and there's lots of politics and argument about it
[bc] and she is hardcore rationalist and dismissive of the religious people
[bc] but in the end, she ends up having an experience that everybody doubts she had, a revelation..
*** Captain_Tenille (Captain_Te@64-42-74-104.atgi.net) has joined #adequacy
[bc] hey ct
[me0w] Good Afternoon Captain
[bc] el capitano
[Captain_Tenille] Ahoy
[Captain_Tenille] What goes on in these parts?
* Captain_Tenille finally got some sleep last night
[bc] You are admirably offensive; you have won. I am offended, many times over. Now please, leave me the fuck alone. --infinitera
[Captain_Tenille] ?
[bc] I am not admirably offensive
* Captain_Tenille wades through the k5rap
[me0w] There was nothing interesting on K5 this morning
[Captain_Tenille] Nope. Doesn't look like it.
[Captain_Tenille] Yawn
[Captain_Tenille] All right, time to make breakfast, I think
[Captain_Tenille] I may be on later.
*** Captain_Tenille has quit IRC (Quit: Making breakfast)
[me0w] they leave so quickly
[bc] yes
[me0w] I made coffee, but now I find I'm too lazy to go and pour it.
[bc] Catch 22 then
[bc] you need some caffeine to rouse you to pour it
[me0w] I need to hire someone to make it for me.
[me0w] But this person must agree to be paid in post-it notes as I have no funds.
[me0w] My new site format seems to be coming along. I might actually like it.
[bc] hehe
* bc is writing a ranty comment
[me0w] Will it be exciting?
[bc] maybe if you like seeing infinitera being attacked, otherwise it's prolly not your thing
[bc] it will be 0ed though, as usual, by him
[bc] but shant be in the hidden wueue for long
[me0w] I will give it a 5 if it is exciting
[bc] yay
[bc] http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/11/15/17928
[bc] there you go me0w
[me0w] I am giving you a 5 for the number of words you used
[bc] woohoo!
[bc] I quite often start typing, and type and type and type in fury
[bc] and I don't really attack him personally till towards the end
[bc] infinitera is a twat
[me0w] Well, I think the "I think you a cunt" might be a bit insulting
[bc] it's possible
[me0w] For some anyway
[me0w] I might take that as a compliment.
[bc] I'd just laugh and respond in kind
[bc] I don't understand the people who get so worked up about lack of civility on the internet
[bc] it's all just a laugh
[me0w] It is all for my amusement
[bc] when ubu and I met, we were calling each other cunts immediately, and being dreadfully insulting. We knew instantly we liked the other
[me0w] That is when you know it is true love.
[bc] indeed. I don't love ubu like a brother, I love him like the homosexual partner I never had
[me0w] I should send flowers to celebrate your relationship.
[bc] that would be very nice of you. The anniversary is very soon, actually
[me0w] Brilliant!
*** gurl (~happy@dialup-64.152.253.58.Dial1.Houston1.Level
[bc] hi, gurrrrl
[gurl] hullo, you
[me0w] Hello
[gurl] christ i overslept
[bc] what time is it where you are? 11:30?
[gurl] twelve thirty
[bc] damn firemen
[bc] striking bastards, is what they are
[bc] there was a housefire here, the soldiers had to break the picketlines, and 6 people were injured due to smoke inhallation. The firemen deliberately tried to stop the aid going out to the fire
[me0w] That isn't good.
[me0w] I can understand the strike, but preventing aid is not ethical.
[bc] the fire service should be shut down and replaced with a nice big charity
[bc] they get £21,000 as a starting wage, the firemen, which is well above the national average wage, After a few years, it rises considerably further, and they have already been offered an 11% raise and rejected it - they are going for 30% (!)
[bc] for what? 99% of the time they are sitting about playing cards
[me0w] 21,000 is far too little
[bc] the fire service should be like the RNLI
[bc] me0w, that's a starting wage for a newly qualified fireman
[bc] the national average wage for everyone is £17,000
[bc] this isn't a rich country like America, with its closer embrace of capitalism, where the national average is more like £30,000
[me0w] I guess I just know people who make more than that.
[me0w] I still think 21,000 is rather low
[bc] £21,000 is perfectly decent as a starting wage
[bc] nurses get £14,000, soldiers £16000, as starting wages
[bc] policemen £17,000
[me0w] Nurses should get more, as well as police men
[me0w] The train people should get less.
[bc] well, ideally I'm sure everybody would be getting £1,000,000 annually, but I'm not willing to see the government take more than half my earnings away to give to these people. If they don't want to work for those wages, they can switch to the private sector.
[bc] and yes, the train sods especially suck
[bc] they went on strike at glasgow underground forcing me to walk 6 miles through highly dodgy parts of glasgow in the rain
[me0w] I think that there are certain professions that should be paid more
[bc] I think it is fine, as long as the money isn't stolen by threat of violence off others to do so.
[gurl] er, no.
[bc] a free market would sort them out, it is only ever public sector workers that strike anyway.
[gurl] nothing teachers do warrants more money
[bc] they'd pay fairly
[gurl] nurses get paid very well for their hours and labour
[me0w] nurses are underpaid
[gurl] at least, if the flooded nursing schools are any indication
[bc] also, funnily enough teachers in scotland just got a 25% increase a couple of years ago. There is now a big "brain drain" of the best teachers from england to scotland. heh!
[me0w] Which is why there are a shortage - they go places where they will be better paid
[gurl] yes, and that is the hospital down the road
[gurl] it is a highly paid but stressful job
[gurl] not everyone can hack it
[gurl] thus, the shortage
[bc] here, all the best doctors and nurses go to America
[bc] where they get paid decently
[me0w] A large number of nursing students in Canada go to the US, and the Middle East - they are usually paid more than double what they make here
[bc] we in turn import from India and scandinavia
[gurl] haha
[gurl] but scanadinavia is supposed to be the perfect country!
[gurl] all socialist paradise and whatnot
[gurl] well, the countries in that region
[bc] not judging by the delectable nurses at my local hospital, loads of whom are danish, norwegian, swedish
[gurl] well, being raised socialist apparently doesn't kill the desire to earn a fair wage for services and all that
[bc] norwegian especially, but I think that is because lots of norwegians come to scotland anyway, cos it is quite close
[gurl] lord, i don't want to go bed shopping
[bc] it certainly doesn't, gurl
[bc] shopping in bed, or shopping for a bed?
[gurl] for a bed
[bc] get one that doesn't creak or have annoying springs
[bc] the best bed I ever had was one that was a platform of wood planks, with a really thin mattress on top
[bc] that thing was great
[bc] prolly quite cheap, too
[gurl] i just want a futon
[bc] never tried one of those, are they good?
[me0w] Get a sturdy futon
[me0w] Over time the frame can bend
[gurl] i was thinking a metal one
[me0w] You'll want a thick mattress on it (if they give that option)
[bc] cool
* bc watches Only Fools and Horses
[gurl] actually, i will go tomorrow since i cannot carry the sodding thing home with me
[bc] hehe
[gurl] i think i'll just take the bed frame from my old bed
[gurl] and buy a new mattress
[bc] heh. Sounds good
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[gurl] it's a gorgeous day
[gurl] but utterly cold and crystal clear out
[bc] I love that
[bc] cold and clear
[bc] and sunny
[bc] perfect weather as far as I'm concerned
[bc] gurl, how did it go with that chap?
[gurl] he friend zoned me
[bc] ah hah
[bc] I did that to a girl week last week after a date. It's surprisingly hard. Requires delicacy
[gurl] so i have a perfectly nice male friend
[bc] well that's something at least
[bc] I have a nice big fillet steak and some English mustard
[gurl] i have a hearty beef stew
[bc] oh splendid
[gurl] haha
[gurl] i am reading about the french foreign legion
[bc] oh yes. That's France's only *professional* section of the army eh?
[bc] I know someone who served in it for 21 years
[gurl] it is terribly intensive
[bc] yes
[bc] long marching through the desert and stuff
[gurl] and no girls allowed!
[bc] http://britishsas.8m.com/training.html
[bc] ^I think that is about the globally hardest training&selection for any regiment
[bc] they are insane
[bc] as part of it, they have the applicant (after a week of insane marching and activity) look after a pet rabbit in the mountains for a while. he is completely alone, and must forage for his own food and protect the rabbit for ages. Then, he recieves an order to kill and eat the rabbit
[bc] quite sadistic
[gurl] haha
[gurl] there's a kill house?!
[bc] they are special forces
[bc] anti-terrorist stuff is one of their duties
[bc] storming embassies, say, like when they stormed the Iranian embassy and freed all the hostages in London in the 80's
[bc] they were the first special forces unit in the world, created during WWII
[gurl] lordy
[bc] Delta Force in the US was founded in the 70's by an American officer who lobbied for it after seeing the SAS and serving in an exchange program in the UK army
[bc] but they aren't as good. They have a slightly different ethos. Delta Force peeps tend to be really big and brawny, and their modus operandi is to be flown in on a big helicopter and shoot everything up before being flown away again
[bc] the SAS are different, in that they believe in more traditional marching and approaching the target on foot. They tend to get dropped far away, sneak about hundreds of miles, attack, and sneak away. And they operate in teams of 8 generally
[bc] http://home.hccnet.nl/22.sas/Operation%20Nimrod.h
[bc] ^that was mad
[bc] I remember watching it on tv
[gurl] so the sas do it properlike
[gurl] well, more like people think such things work
[bc] of course! ie, no hostage deaths, all terrorists dead, seemingly miraculously
[bc] it's sort of amazing
[bc] another famous one was the scud stuff during the gulf war
[bc] one of their missions went wrong, they were given wrong maps
[bc] and they were euipped for desert conditions, but it was frequently -20C and snowing etc
[bc] and they got discovered and stormed by two lorry loads of iraqi tropps, tanks, etc, from a local base
[bc] so the 8 of them killed ALL of them, then walked 100km overnight carrying 80lb bergens in freezing conditions
[bc] they are sort of insane those people. Not qute normal, but very good at what they do (wholesale, efficient slaughter)
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[gurl] damn
[bc] and also, cos it is UK army, it is not just UKians, they select from many countries in the commonwealth
[gurl] reminds me of stephen king's gunslinger
[bc] so canadians and australians and NZers and Nepalians can see the SAS as the peak of their career, if they are good enough to make it through selection
[Captain_Tenille] SAS?
[bc] yes
[gurl] british special forces
[Captain_Tenille] Aha
* Captain_Tenille always thought MI5 and MI6 were cool acronyms
[bc] hehe
[Captain_Tenille] Although for the longest time I thought it was M16
[Captain_Tenille] Which seemed odd
[bc] ct, during WWI it went from MI1 all the way to MI20
[bc] also, MI5 & MI6 didn't officially exist until very recently
[Captain_Tenille] I was just about to ask what happened to MI1-4
[gurl] heh
[bc] having no constitutional checks, the government is free to deny they exist at all
[gurl] haha
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[gurl] oh look@
[gurl] er, nevermind
[Captain_Tenille] The US gov denied the existence of the NSA forever.
[bc] same as SAS, which didn't officially exist till the 90's,, and is still v.secret
[Captain_Tenille] I don't think they officially acknowledge the Delta Force
[bc] the SAS are fun because they are the first special forces group, and most other western country's special forces groups were founded, usually much later, on that model, often by officers who saw the SAS in exchange programmes and thought it a jolly good idea
[bc] Delta Force being a case in point, in the 70's. Same with Germany's, france's. Greece's, Israel's, etc etc
[bc] but SAS are teh best!
[gurl] it is impressive what humans can be taught to do
[Captain_Tenille] Is SAS just Green Beret style special forces, or does it include PSYOPS and Civil Affairs type stuff
[Captain_Tenille] ?
[bc] that's the other thing with the SAS, the complete lack of traditional army discipline, which was very new
[bc] ct: it is mostly military and anti-terrorist
[bc] there is another group that specialises in civil intelligence
[bc] that sometimes work with the SAS, but the SAS are purely a military machine
[Captain_Tenille] Civil Affairs handles the military's relations with the governments of the countries they're in.
[Captain_Tenille] Should said government fall, they set up a caretaker government in it's place.
* Captain_Tenille 's dad did that for a long time
[bc] coo
[gurl] bc, my sibling is all rotting in the county jail
[bc] haha
[bc] what'd he do?
[gurl] his warrant caught up to him
[bc] damn
[gurl] he owes about 400£ in fines
[Captain_Tenille] I just found out yesterday, actually, what my dad did after he worked as a codebreaker during the Vietnam War.
[county] bc, you've millions, get gurl's brother out of the clink.
[bc] he deserves it, county
[bc] Contributing to the skill of the SAS is the Operations Research Unit which develops unique equipment for use by the SP team.
[county] That's beside the point. She'll be indebted to you.
[bc] ^^hehe, that's like "m" in james bond
[gurl] bc, he found a job
[gurl] and now he will lose it
[gurl] because of extended absence
[bc] damn it
[bc] what's he fined for?
[Captain_Tenille] Aren't you guys going to ask what my dad did?
[bc] isn't that classified, ct?
[Captain_Tenille] He didn't tell me much.
[gurl] speeding ticket, i think
[Captain_Tenille] Just enough to make me boggle.
[Captain_Tenille] zuul, he?
[zuul] he is not
[bc] but he was army, eh? mad
[Captain_Tenille] Wouldn't tell me what he did
[gurl] then why build us up so cruelly]?
[Captain_Tenille] NSA. That's all we would say.
[Captain_Tenille] er, he
[county] Come on, bc, give her brother a chance.
[county] He's trying to turn is life around!
[county] He's in jail because of ancient history.
[bc] you're right county. I will bail him right away.
[county] Good man.
[county] I'm sure gurl will be very grateful.
[gurl] some woman is presently trying to adopt me
[county] But you're too old for that.
[bc] is she older, and with grown up children who have flown the nest?
[gurl] yeah, pretty much
[gurl] except her grown kids are still in the nest
[county] And she wants more.
[gurl] she thinks i'm a unique snowflake
[gurl] and wants to feed and clothe me and all that
[bc] weird, gurl
[gurl] aye
[bc] weird weird weird
[gurl] and the annoying guy at work who kept trying to pay me to go out with him
[county] So are you going to take her up on it?
[gurl] he got in a horrible car wreck and was fired
[gurl] she is rather like mother
[gurl] except less manipulative and deceitful
[county] Did he get fired for getting in the car wreck?
[gurl] not quite
[gurl] he was fired for trying to come back to work
[gurl] with a broken neck
[bc] he offered you money? heh, how desperate
[gurl] well, he is married
[gurl] and also i don't want him
[gurl] but he just couldn't seem to accept that
[bc] "Please come out with me?" - "No." - "I'll give you £500."
[county] That's really harsh.
[bc] it's damned right, gurl
[county] He was so dedicated to his work that he wanted to come in, but he got fired instead!
[bc] I'm proud of you!
[county] Couldn't they just tell him to go home and sleep it off?
[gurl] he got in the accident whilst drunk
[gurl] and it was off duty anyhow
[gurl] so they can easily get him on inability to perform
[gurl] and he could hardly even sit down
[gurl] the doctor hadn't signed a release
[gurl] so however cruel it sounds, they had every reasonable right to fire him
[county] Still, to be unemployed and mangled in these times is difficult. He'll probably end up on the street.
[gurl] no, his wife is utterly devoted and loving
[gurl] and makes piles of money
[gurl] she wanted only to take care of him
[county] He has a devoted wife who makes lots of money, but wants a little on the side too?
[county] That seems risky.
[gurl] but he wanted to go drinking and sleep with other women
[county] I should find a rich, devoted wife.
[county] Having one could be convenient.
[gurl] it was the only thing that saved him
[county] Some guys have all the luck.
[bc] hehe
[gurl] i am sure bc would happily arrange for you to acquire a wealthy wife
[bc] it's true. There's a lucky sod I know who's wife is a civil engineer making tons of cash. All he does is footer about spending her money on computers and crap. They love each other very much and seem very happy. Sickening, it is.
[county] Yeah, I need someone to take care of me!
[county] I'm tired of being responsible.
[bc] BRB, mobile shop
[gurl] have a beer
[gurl] actually, have five or six
[county] What's a mobile shop?
[county] Anyway, that's too many beers.
[gurl] well, however many will intoxicate you
[gurl] women like to help men in that state
[county] Haha!
[county] What nonsense.
[county] Women hate drunks.
[gurl] depends on the drunk boy
[gurl] i find some of them endearing
[bc] damn it's cold
[county] Well, what do you expect? Your house was built before heat was invented
[county] What's a mobile shop, though?
[bc] I am an endearing drunk boy. My cold reserve melts away, revealing a vulnerable and heartbreakingly fascinating character. I find that women are much more interested in me when drunk, than when sober.
[county] uh huh
[bc] county, a shop on wheels that drives around selling things. It parks outside my front door
[county] What sort of things?
[bc] in this instance, I got dunhills and Irn Bru, and a bottle of Gin
[county] So you've gone back to the bottle.
[county] tsk tsk.
[bc] all sorts, county. There are many of them, in fact. Soem are mobile butchers, others mobile grocers and fishmongers. This one sells everyday necessities
[county] Like I said, though, some guys have all the luck. When sober, I'm undesirable. When intoxicated, I'm undesirable in a different way.
[county] Everyday necessities like dunhills, Irn Bru, and gin.
[bc] Yup.
[county] dunhills sound like cigarettes. What's Irn Bru?
[bc] they sell what's sold most in the local community
[bc] county: http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/irn-bru/index.asp
[gurl] what's a good poll topick before i hotfoot it elsewhere?
[bc] poll? hmmn
[county] I don't think I've ever seen any of that, bc.
[bc] favourite spirit?
[gurl] irn bru is only in scotland
[county] That would be all you can think of.
[bc] county, well, it is actually illegal in the US, the FDA won't allow it to be sold there
[bc] so it isn't surprising
[county] gurl, "Favorite condiment to lick off nipples?"
[bc] it contains too much iron, or something
[county] Be sure to include horseradish as an option.
[wsl3] county: Hot Thai Red Curry
[bc] it's very very popular in russia though
[Captain_Tenille] What on earth is it? And why is it illegal?
[bc] ct, it's just a soft drink. It's illegal cos the FDA don't like it's iron content
[wsl3] What is?
[Captain_Tenille] Ah
[gurl] man, i suppose i am not cut out for daytime drinking
[gurl] my tummy hurts now
[wsl3] gurl: Have some nice cock. That should solve the problem, but only if you get all the way down and get the protien suprise at the end.
[gurl] i don't see how
[gurl] protein makes my tummy hurt
[wsl3] They'll cancel each other out.
[gurl] i somehow doubt this.
[gurl] i love my diary.
[wsl3] Nah, I can show you if you want!
[county] Give up, wsl3. The fact is, you can only score with fatties.
[wsl3] give it up county, the fact is, I don't care what you think.
[county] That doesn't make any sense, idiot. I wasn't trying to influence your opinion.
[bc] I love your diary too, gurl =)))
[gurl] hehe
[wsl3] county: Uh huh.
[gurl] there is nothing wrong with fatties, if they have attractive features
[gurl] and don't look like useless lumps of crap
[wsl3] Bingo!
* wsl3 is a FFA
[gurl] fatty fucker anonymous?
[wsl3] LOL
[wsl3] FFA == Fullfigured Female Admirer
[gurl] oh god
[county] Vlad's fatties look like useless lumps of crap, gurl.
[gurl] i HATE those
[wsl3] county is a useless lump of crap
[county] These women aren't fat, gurl, they're disgustingly hyper-obese.
[wsl3] gurl - hate what? Voluptous women?
[county] 300lbs.
[gurl] a girl can be voluptuous without being heavy
[bc] FFA give BBWs TLC and have a GSOH
[county] A three hundred pound woman isn't voluptuous.
[county] She's hyper-obese.
[wsl3] county: I know lots of attractive 300lb women.
[gurl] no, that's a porker
[gurl] i don't know any.
[county] You don't know any!
[county] You're delusional.
[wsl3] Depends - what if she's like 6' tall?
[gurl] and i know some decent looking big girls
[gurl] then she shouldn't exceed 250
[wsl3] gurl: Top size?
[gurl] and that only if she is super muscular
[wsl3] gurl: Nah - I've seen women as high as 400lbs that I'd do.
[gurl] well, men are less picky about that
[county] I'm not.
[county] I'm not interested in girls much over 150.
[gurl] well, that leaves the taller ones out
[gurl] unless they are very slim
[Captain_Tenille] Tall girls are overrated
[wsl3] gurl: That depends - in general I don't find a woman attractive under 175 or so unless she is stunningly beautiful and has a personallity to match.
[Captain_Tenille] *under* 175?
[gurl] that is a shame for you, wsl3
[county] I don't much like taller girls, gurl.
[wsl3] under, yes.
[gurl] i personally think too many people are heavy
[county] Much beyond 5'6" is too tall, I think.
* Captain_Tenille 's gf is 5'
[wsl3] gurl: I don't find it a shame at all! I have a full, active, loving sex life, thank you very much.
[gurl] but that said, i don't mind heavy people who don't whine about it
[gurl] of course you do
* wsl3 doesn't whine - he has no cheese to go with it.
[gurl] i know lots of plain couples that can't get enough of each other
[Captain_Tenille] Off to get a hair cut.
[Captain_Tenille] Ta ta.
[gurl] which is great for them
[gurl] hasta
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[bc] woohoo
[bc] there's nothing wrong with plain people. Or even ugly people, if they are self confident enough and interesting and especially good natured enough
[gurl] ok, i have to fix someone's cd rom
[bc] happy hacking!
[gurl] well, that is true of anyone
[county] Aye, and there's the rub, bc.
[gurl] there is no hacking involved!
[county] It's easier to become beautiful than it is to become interesting or good natured.
[gurl] it's purely a mechanical issue
[county] If one isn't already.
[bc] you are fixing a technical computer device
[gurl] bof, i am fixing a thingy with serrated wheels
[bc] with what, you say?
[bc] that sounds complicated
[gurl] little wheels with chopped bits
[county] A serrated wheel? Isn't that a gear?
[bc] I'm a man, I don't understand technical things, I just leave it to women
[gurl] yeah, i guess
[gurl] two little gears that aren't spinning the drive out
[county] Well, get that cute little can of yours over there and start fixing things!
[county] Chop chop!
[gurl] i have to finish my beer
[gurl]
[county] bc, what should I do with myself today?
[bc] I think you should go to the pub
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[county] It's kind of dismal out.
[bc] and drink beer, play darts, and watch the match
[cdromgurl] yes, do go, since i cannot
[cdromgurl] wave
[bc] that's why I didn't suggest the park, county
[bc] bye happy hackess!
[county] I don't know where any pubs are. In fact, I think they're illegal in Seattle.
[bc] http://www.nwbrewpage.com/wabpubs/WestSea.html
[bc] go there
[wsl3] lol
[bc] though I must say, the huge billboard sign at the front puts me off
[bc] here, they just have a tiny sign
[bc] I suppose Americans insist on the 25foot billboard treatment
[county] That's really far away.
[bc] get the metro then!
[county] Anyway, going to a pub is way too social.
[bc] you don't need to talk to anyone
[bc] clearly, you aren't very familiar with pubs at all
[bc] they can be profoundly antisocial
[county] Of course I don't, but I feel odd being out by myself.
[county] There isn't any point in going out to be anti-social.
[wsl3] Go nude. That will get some attention.
[county] Shut up.
[wsl3] no
[wsl3] You can forget about that.
[wsl3] If I'm in front of my computer, and I see something I want to respond to, I will - same as you.
[county] Shut up, really.
[wsl3] No.
[wsl3] really.
[bc] blargle
[wsl3] bc: What's new with Kip? Has anyone seen him?
[bc] heis in London, that's all I know
[county] I'm going to go shower.
[county] When I come back, I'm going to have some booze, a pastrami sandwich, and pour at my innermost hopes and dreams.
[county] "out"
[wsl3] ah
[bc] looking forward to it
[wsl3] Well, I'll be quite for that.
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[Sulla] hey momo
It's time to add Rusty Foster to "the list" of people who shouldn't be breathing.
Kuro5hin, "the democratic news site", has abandoned all pretenses of Democracy and has gone into full Fascist/Censorship mode.
These are the recent deeds of Kuro5hin.org:
1. Deleting numerous comments entirely, circumventing the site's established ratings procedure. Many of the comments deleted were highly rated at the time of deletion, indicating that THE PEOPLE wanted them to stay.
2. Disabling numerous user accounts. Many of these accounts were disabled before they even posted anything.
3. Enacting IP bans against several users, and adding additional IP bans as these persecuted people kept changing IPs to avoid censorship.
4. Deleting many diaries, including several that contained no abusive/offensive content, for no reason and with no warning or notice.
5. Keeping all this secret, because Rusty Foster knows he would be lynched by his readership if his Nazi-like practices were evar revealed.
Disabling dozens of accounts... deleting dozens of comments... banning dozens of IPs and several entire subnets... is this Democracy??
Rusty Foster is going to be second against the wall when the revolution comes, right behind his gay lovebuddy William Scott Lockwood III.
Dear Trolls,
It has occured to me that you think that chainrust is me. I have received replies for emails I did not write, and other nonsense.
Thankfully, Chainrust (aka Pumpernickel and other nicks according to you) has contacted me to make the situation clear. Let me clear it further for the challenged of us out there:
Chainrust's name is not Jared Stattlemeyer. You have hardly any chance of finding his real identity (no, I will not tell you).
I am not Chainrust of Adequacy or Slashdot or K5.
The phone numbers you have published are not mine, but they may be of some other Jared Stattlemeyer, an Astroglide user in Jerusalem. The same goes for the email addresses.
In short, you are dumb. Very very dumb. The next time you decide that you can come to the right conclusions based on an incomplete evidence, please remember the above.
Oh, and by the way. I have your IPs. You visited my site, after all, didn't you? Does 64.94.151.187 look familiar? I have more. Think about that if you decide to harass that fellow in Jerusalem via phone. I will be the first to consult him on how to file a formal complaint with the police (I happen to volunteer in the Civil Guard). The "Jewish country" and US have signed agreements just for such cases.
Best regards,
Jared Stattlemeyer
Surely, Mr. Traficant is quaking in his boots at the prospect
of being interviewed by Ms. Sassaman. Ms. Sassaman's reporting
is the most hard-hitting; the most insightful; the most
fact-based. Every interview she does (how many... two now?) opens
a Pandora's box of corruption and intrigue.
Ms. Sassaman concocts many a rich fantasy in her clouded mind. Her
writing never seems to hit the mark. That is because it is never
based in anything resembling reality. How many times have we been
teased with suggestions of "having it cold" that a "certain large
company" is involved in far-reaching scandal? How many times have we
been promised penetrating interviews with the rich and famous?
I think it has become painfully obvious that Ms. Sassaman lives in
a world completely of her own manufacture. "I'm going to interview Jamez
Traficante." "I'm going to blow the lid off of nookie." "I'm going
to expose the corruption going on in Russian Blue cat farms."
Yes. We believe you, Esther. Now, go in for your schizophrenia
treatment and quiet down.
Now, there is nothing wrong with living in a fantasy. And there is
nothing wrong with setting goals for yourself. But Kuro5hin has had
enough of Ms. Sassaman's blatant and admitted trolling and attention
farming. After having read this diary entry several times, I can see
no other purpose than to say to all of Kuro5hin: "Look at me! I'm a
hot-shot journalist and I'm going to interview Jamez Traficante! Please
heap your adulation on me now!"
Sorry, not this time. Perhaps a better place to have posted this
diary would have been Adequacy,
which is the intended victim of this fantasy interview. What, pray tell, was
the reason for posting this here? To get more traffic for Adequacy,
which has been in steady decline for several months now? Probably. And,
of course, personal attention.
In summary, I guess I can only point out that I have spoken to people who
were under the influence of LSD and still had more grounding in reality than
Ms. Sassaman. Perhaps she would do well to pack her knapsack and hitch a
ride to China, where her delusions of grandeur and fantasies of conspiracy
could be put to good use in a propaganda machine.
Bye.
I remember back in the days when AOL didn't have unlimited accounts people would phish for credit cards.
Telling someone that service X has lost their credit card information probably has the same hit rate of any other spam, 1-2%. It doesn't take much to make a lot of money off of stupid people.
That theory worked years ago, and it still works today. The way I see it, 1 of 2 things needs to happen for this to stop.
1) Greedy people have to develop some ethics
or
2) People have to become less stupid
Experts predict that either one could happen around, oh, never.
Thank you Mario! But our princess is in another castle!
From: cptroll
/saving/ it for later, but that doesn't seem to be the case if you look at jamie's past articles -- they're all over the week). Alternatively, they're just saving it for a weekday where there's more traffic and more visibility.
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] how long do story submissions usually take?
Date sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:10:04 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0034)
The biggest possibility is that they're saving it for jamie to do some background research and write up a big article (more than just a blurb). That would seem likely, except you'd probably have heard from your friend about it, since he's the first one they'd contact (except if jamie doesn't work on weekends and they're actually
I once had a submission take more than a day to get rejected, but that was only because it first got accepted before eventually having that acceptance rescinded. I never did figure that one out.
I'm personally annoyed, because being as pathetic as I am, I actually got up early several times this morning to check the front page and make sure it hadn't been posted over night. I obviously care too damn much.
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>It's been in the queue over 24 hours now, I think, not rejected yet. How
>long does this usually take? (In the past, my story suggestions usually
>get rejected right away.:)
>
>Maybe they're checking up on the facts.
>
>*waits for laughter to die down*
>
>Okay, but why is it taking so long? Do you think any of you who talk to
>rub & co could ask them to try and push the story through? I do have
>some personal interest in it, besides being decent troll fodder.
>
>-lb
(This is CP0034)
You were fun when you were intelligent, now you are just stupid.
Wow, ohmyGOD, Pumpernickel told me to FOAD. I guess I'd better do what he says!! Oh, wait. There's absolutely no reason for me to do what he says, now that I think about it.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material.
Confidential material.
Confidential material.
Confidentail material.
That's just scratching the surface. I could go back further, if you like.
If you actually look, you'll see that 90% of the real spam (multiple identical messages posted minute apart in an attempt to push our messages off the page) is posted by our enemies, Lockwood and his VladeKua5y minions. Maybe you just don't read carefully.
We generate more original material than evaryone else here COMBINED, and we generate BETTER stuff, too. We ARE Trolltalk. We are what's keeping it alive despite all attempts to destroy it. YOU are one of those attempts.
It's quite common for a company not to mention defects or security problems related to their site. (Note: in this case, the problem is not with ebay's site, but with one that looks similar.)
Not even slashdot is immune to this. Consider for example, the recent security problems as sourceforge where every project hosted at sourceforge was subject to arbitrary attack because of database administration problems. For example, see the thread about the squirrel mail list logs, detailing how their site was hacked because of lax SF.net administration. According to the squirrel mail developers who got hacked, it was because:
For all we know, this may still be the problem with SF.net, which has said one word about the breakin, or whether all that source code on SF.net was trojaned.
This story has been all over IRC, news groups, lists, and elsewhere. But
I don't bring this up to bash slashdot. (It gets enough bashing by others--some of it deserved, some of it just from trolls.) Rather, my point is to illustrate that it's quite common for security problems to be reported by other, outside entities, and not the damaged or affected party themselves. This is just one more reason we need neutral avisory bodies!
I've been a fool to myself,
I thought that I could live for no one else.
But now, through all the hurt and pain,
It's time for me to respect,
The ones you love mean more than anything.
So with sadness in my heart,
Feel the best thing I could do,
Is end it all, and leave forevar.
What's done is done, it feels so bad,
What once was happy now is sad,
I'll never love again,
My world is ending.
I wish that I could turn back time,
'Cause now the guilt is all mine,
Can't live without the trust from those you love.
I know we can't forget the past,
You can't forget love and pride,
Because of that, it's killing me inside.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
In my heart of hearts,
I know that I could never love again.
I've lost evarthing... evarthing...
Evarthing that matters to me matters in this world!
I wish that I could turn back time,
'Cause now the guilt is all mine,
Can't live without the trust from those you love.
I know we can't forget the past,
You can't forget love and pride,
Because of that, it's killing me inside.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
just new take on a tried and true con that has been around for probably centuries.
Yup. Getting people to offer up their credit card numbers has been around for centuries.
The Spanish and English coming to North America and STEALING the American Indians' land? Nope -- they got them to offer up their credit card numbers and then purchased the land fraudulantly.
The Soviets STEALING the soverignty of Eastern Bloc nations? Nope -- they just got them to offer up their credit card numbers...
Don't even get me STARTED about the 2000 election...
(Its all a joke, folks, relax.)
I would have to say that explosives are the most abused technology in all of history.
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Experiment in whoring...
Date sent: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 10:03:49 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0005)
It's good to see you making a go at it again, but I'm
confused as to why you're trying to whore up a
bitchslapped account, because no matter what your
karma is, you'll never stop defaulting to -1 (just ask
warren). Your only option would be to start a new
account -- "DMG" is still available....
James can answer you better than I, but Jon Erikson is
definitely not dead. I'm surprised to confirm that
there aren't any comments on his users.pl page, but I
guess this week belongs to Dan Hayes.
(This is CP0005)
[luisa||||] it will be a lame asian thing4 191 :(/ pc/jul01/legendsMM01.jpg :( ;p9 945l 3.net) has joined #adequacy
[First_Incision] The Asians are just adopting all of the West's excesses. They will fall with us.
[luisa||||] this islam stuff will blow over
[luisa||||] and china will TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!1
[First_Incision] The Muslims will pick up the pieces when the Internet causes us to implode
[county] I don't want to learn Chinese.
[county] I hope they just kill me when they take over.
[momocrome] I've already adopted the internet as a cybernetic extension, a third lobe if you will.
[momocrome] that makes me pretty damn smart
[momocrome] smart enough to out fox the elderly chinese!
[county] I need super powers.
[First_Incision] I like that Vonnegut book where the Chinese transform themselves into everpresent sentient germs
[First_Incision] but all of his books run together, so I can't remember what it was.
[county] If I had super powers, I just know I could accomplish those things that I wish to.
[momocrome] well, with or without super powers, I know you are a super-hero! =P
[county] Gee, thanks!
[momocrome] I think I will post my real phone number and address on trolltalk
[luisa||||] it is just about one am
[luisa||||] what the fuck shall i do tonight?
[county] Sometimes I imagine that I see momocrome, RobotSlave, or what not while out and about.
[county] Isn't that twisted?
[luisa||||] no
[momocrome] my GF would love all those crank calls and harrassing late night visits
[luisa||||] i wish i lived in seattle
[momocrome] I imagine that I see you too, county
[me0w] Good evening
[luisa||||] actually, no i don't
[momocrome] hi me0w
[county] momocrome, do you take the 2, 3, 4, 8, or 18?
[luisa||||] because county would look at me like that
[county] Or the 1.
[momocrome] I take the 18
[county] OK, that makes sense.
[momocrome] and the 522
[county] I used to take the 522 daily.
[First_Incision] Isn't seattle a degenerate city full of leftivists, starbucks customers, and starbucks vandalizers?
[momocrome] 522 is sound transit express tto lake city
[momocrome] FI, not at all
[luisa||||] seattle is full of sexy bitches
[county] Yes, I used to stay in Lake City.
[luisa||||] i like that in a town
[momocrome] it is mostly Young Urban Professionals
[county] The 18 isn't perfectly convenenient for me, but it works. Maybe I'll start taking it.
[county] That would be strange.
[momocrome] they drive volvos or VW jettas
[momocrome] doesn't it hit a nickerson route?
[momocrome] or is that leary...
[First_Incision] I think I'm a Young Urban Professional. It sucks.
[momocrome] hmm
[momocrome] you have a jetta!
[luisa||||] i am young, and urban
[momocrome] haw haw haw
[luisa||||] and drive a giant buick
[county] momocrome, I board the bus often at queen anne and mercer.
[momocrome] jk
[county] The 18 goes by there.
[momocrome] yes
[First_Incision] I drive an F-150. But I'm in the South.
[momocrome] I drive past frequently
[county] Strange.
[momocrome] er, ride past
[First_Incision] Volvo's don't seem to be too popular down here, but Jettas are.
[county] We've probably seen each other!
[momocrome] it is strange. I imagine I saw one of the London trolls when I was a tourist there sometimes
[momocrome] I saw / having seen
[luisa||||] my sibling used to drive one, until he crashed it, FI
[luisa||||] it's a pretty sweet truck
[First_Incision] It is. I enjoy it thoroughly.
[momocrome] I am almost set to get in an accident with an SUV and have the driver arrested for attempted murder or negligence or some such
[momocrome] whenever I can afford an attourney that will spell it out for me in a way no cop or prosecuter can deny
[county] momocrome, something odd I've noticed while riding the bus is the sheer number of drivers who seem to want to get hit by one.
[First_Incision] Oh, if I wanted to get into an accident, I know just the place. There is a stoplight out of my neighboorhood that is apparently optional
[First_Incision] People run through it with abandon
[momocrome] that would send shockwaves through the economy
[momocrome] indeed, county
[momocrome] and the sheer number of people that drink booze on the busses is weird, too.
[county] I haven't really noticed that.
[county] Isn't it against the rules?
[momocrome] especially considering how rare actual booze can be in WA
[momocrome] certainly
[county] Is booze rare?
[momocrome] and another weird thing is that food & drink and pets are _not_ against the rules
[momocrome] well, the state-run liquor stores aren't exactly common
[county] I not infrequently carry rather large amounts of booze on the bus.
[county] I feel awkward when I do.
[First_Incision] momocrome: do they have non-state-run liquor stores?
[county] Not that I care about being seen with booze, but I don't want people trying to steal it.
[momocrome] no
[county] Yes they do, momocrome.
[momocrome] really?
[county] Just not in Seattle.
[momocrome] i've never seen one
[momocrome] ah
[county] They're all in little dinky rural areas.
[momocrome] special dispensions for remote areas not worth investing state dollars in operating a store
[First_Incision] Malvo and Muhammad's first victim was in front of an Alabama state run liquour store. Coincidence? I think not.
[county] I think so, momocrome.
[county] I don't mind the state-run liquor stores.
[county] There's one right next to the grocery store I shop at.
[county] The place is clean, the selection good, and the staff is friendly and helpful.
[momocrome] yeah, at least you know the cigarettes aren't counterfeit
[First_Incision] I've never been to one. They are the small minority of liquor stores here.
[momocrome] in CA, that is the usual case. cheap mexican cigarettes are smuggled in and sold for normal prices, sans excise
[momocrome] the difference in quality is marked
[county] In California, spirits can be had anywhere.
[county] It's strange, to me.
[county] I've always lived in states that had tightly-restricted liquor laws.
[momocrome] but you can't smoke in restaurants
[First_Incision] It amazes me how in Indidana, there is literally a liquor store on every corner
[momocrome] i get creeped out being able to smoke in public places like that
[First_Incision] I hate it when people smoke around me.
[First_Incision] I HATE IT!
[me0w] I crave smoking.
[First_Incision] I want to harm them physically.
[momocrome] not that I am a heavy smoker... but I like one after meals and when drinking
[momocrome] FI, I want to harm people, or harass them at least, that hold your position
[luisa||||] i don't mind smokers
[luisa||||] i just am not round them so often
[First_Incision] why haven't there been riots over this yet?
[momocrome] especially those that see you smoking in an isolated area and come over, cough and glare at you
[First_Incision] We should meet up in a restaurant and start one
[momocrome] CA is horrible for that
[luisa||||] heheh
[momocrome] its like people know they can exert power over you, guilt you about smoking, and so go out of their way to position themsselves to do so
[First_Incision] I can't open my eyes when people are smoking around me. The pain is too much
[luisa||||] it was weird that cali grocery stores sold hard liquor
[luisa||||] i sorely wish i could buy booze at walmart here
[county] Why on earth would you want walmart booze?
[luisa||||] although i am fond of the liquor emporium
[First_Incision] Some day, teary-eyed, coughing and furious, I shall harm a smoker.
[momocrome] walmart? you should get booze at costco! it is worth the drive to another state and a membership
[luisa||||] it would be cheaper
[luisa||||] i wouldn't buy the store brand
[county] What state, momocrome?
[luisa||||] heh, i can just see that
[momocrome] a $20 bottle is $6 at costco
[luisa||||] sam's club vodka
[luisa||||] sheeit
[momocrome] well, for us I think it is just CA or ID
[county] That's fantastic, momocrome. Where?
[county] OK.
[momocrome] heh
[county] Do you want to drive to Idaho next time we get paid?
[luisa||||] see, i have to pay 200 for a plane ticket there
[momocrome] you're on!
[county] It'll be fun.
[luisa||||] not including the membership fee
[momocrome] you'l have to rent a car
[luisa||||] cali is closer
[luisa||||] i think
[momocrome] I've got a costco card though
[luisa||||] well, blow me down
[momocrome] luisa||||, a CA costcois not so close
[county] Idaho and California are both far away, but I think Idaho might be a bit closer.
[momocrome] probably nothing north of Sacrement
[momocrome] i
[county] Is there a Costco in Redding?
[momocrome] o
[county] Oh, that far.
[luisa||||] ah, i figure there was one up north
[momocrome] dunno
[momocrome] maybe
[county] No closer than Redding, I would guess, and that's a drive.
[momocrome] hang on
[First_Incision] well, I'm going to sleep.
[momocrome] yes there is one
[First_Incision] nite
[momocrome] nighteo
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[luisa||||] oh, there are loads of them in texas
[luisa||||] one a few miles from me
[luisa||||] it says there is one in seattle
[momocrome] AHQ!
[county] There is, luisa.
[momocrome] the company is headquartered in Seattle
[luisa||||] but i'm using their warehouse locator
[county] momocrome, here's the plan.
[luisa||||] so fuck knows if that means i can buy stuff there
[momocrome] nothing about booze on the website so far
[county] We'll drive to Redding, buy lots of booze, drop by Houston, sell some to luisa at a profit, then drive back here.
[luisa||||] haha
[luisa||||] if i can go to a houston costco
[luisa||||] i wouldn't need your liquor!
[county] No, see, we'd get you really drunk and then we'd steal your wallet and flee to Seattle.
[luisa||||] i have no wallet
[county] Where do you carry your money?
[luisa||||] wouldn't you like to know.
[county] Well, that is why I asked, I suppose.
[luisa||||] mostly i don't carry
[luisa||||] unless i am getting groceries or something
[county] Hmm. I always have money, but then, other people don't buy me things.
[luisa||||] people used to more often
[luisa||||] but that was when i was not so morose
[county] I've always been reserved, not morose, though.
[luisa||||] that always makes me dizzy in a guy
[luisa||||] because so many have trouble sorting themselves in public or private with females
[county] How do you mean? Maybe we just prefer to ignore females.
[momocrome] damn
[momocrome] luisa||||, I was pursuing the theory that you were a guy earlier today, because women usually don't refer to male humans as bis, but gay men do
[momocrome] bis, boys
[momocrome] your use of the word guy a moment ago shoots that theory to hell
[momocrome] men usually don't refer to boys as guys, see.
[county] What do we refer to them as?
[luisa||||] i'm a lass, right enough
[momocrome] well, usually, asshole or bastard
[momocrome] but otherewise, men or fellas
[luisa||||] by sorting, i mean when they are round a girl they like, county
[luisa||||] or girls they like
[county] Oh, I ignore them too, luisa.
[county] I have a system, and it works.
[luisa||||] that makes no sense
[luisa||||] how can they like you if you never let them?
[county] Well, I don't see how that's any of my concern. I'm not required to accommodate people who might wish to like me.
[momocrome] heh
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[momocrome] a #adequacy mocking
[momocrome] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
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[county] hehe
[momocrome] there are a couple of them
[luisa||||] so but yeah, that is a case of Too Much Spare Time
[county] I like having too much spare time.
[momocrome] that is the essence of this very world
[county] The very essence, even.
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[county] Verily.
[county] Enter the stunning demi-god.
[luisa||||] rehi
[momocrome] hooboo
[luisa||||] god, advogato bites
[county] You bight!
[momocrome] vlad! the are mocking you soo hard in trolltalk, but this one was funny- "Fuck you. Ever see the movie Leon: the Professional? That's the kind of martial arts I practice. The first lesson will be free. Are you prepared for my Natalie Portman Stance???"
[county] Natalie Portman is a tart.
[county] Although, I have to admit, I'd hit it.
[luisa||||] she is pleasant enough
[luisa||||] but i base that on her star wars two costumes
[luisa||||] because i would steal nearly all of them for my own.
[county] Sans tears, I should hope.
[luisa||||] oh, aye
[county] The only one I can really recall is the white one.
[momocrome] i would take a tear encrusted costume from her
[momocrome] I would make her cry.
[county] You wouldn't, though.
[county] You might permit yourself to briefly think about it while she bossed you around, I'll grant you that.
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[vladequacy] i would make her cry cause she wouldn't know who I am
[county] She'd weep out of longing to know you?
[vladequacy] oh no
[county] You're not making much sense.
[vladequacy] she'd weep at the sight of my ski mask!
[vladequacy] no no no
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[county] You (thankfully) haven't it in you.
[momocrome] it is true
[county] It might be fun to make luisa cry, but I'm sure it would require more time and effort than it's worth.
[momocrome] it might be easy
[county] You're right, it might be.
[momocrome] just wisper to her every night about her shortcomings
[county] Every night?
[county] How many nights?
[momocrome] and then set it up to say two or three keywords in a certain sequence to crush her will
[county] See, that's what I meant by time.
[momocrome] those would be nights spent next to her lithe figure, though
[momocrome] not a waste, a benefit
[county] You've an interesting idea about the female psyche, momocrome.
[me0w] Night night
[momocrome] night
* momocrome fetches 'nother beer
[county] OK, so I whisper the words, she cries, then what?
[county] Can I grind her to dust and throw her into the wind?
[momocrome] sure
[momocrome] or change her being for the simple thrill
[momocrome] mold her life to your whim
[momocrome] whatever suits your fancy
[momocrome] I am turning my girl into a goth
[county] I thought she was to begin with.
[momocrome] just cause she 'hates goths'
[county] Or was she more a punk?
[momocrome] well, she is goth-ish without admitting it
[county] So you're not actually doing anything at all, just taking credit for a preexistent state of affairs.
[momocrome] and somewhat punk. bitch is probably a better description
[momocrome] heh
[county] Or is that too much honesty?
[county] I can tone it down, if you like.
[momocrome] no. I have turned her around
[momocrome] now, for example, she listens mostly to bands like Joy Division, Bauhaus and Sisters of Mercy
[momocrome] in her car
[momocrome] sheonce hit me with her fist for daring to suggest such dreadful music!
[momocrome] bah
[momocrome] tastes change
[momocrome] I can't honestly take credit for it
[county] She hit you with her fist?
[county] And you tolerated it!?
[momocrome] why not?
[momocrome] it is well within my threshold to tolerate
[county] It's quite disrespectful.
[momocrome] she is 'spunky' like that
[momocrome] she throws things at walls
[momocrome] slams doors
[momocrome] hangs up on people
[county] Sounds like my sister, of whom I am not particularly fond.
[luisa||||] heh
[momocrome] is your sister self absorbed and tempermental?
[luisa||||] you couldn't make me cry that way, county
[luisa||||] emotional torture is bad form and doesn't really work
[momocrome] my GF is not self absorbed or tempermental
[momocrome] she is obstinate and hysterical
[momocrome] hmm
[momocrome] maybe I am drunk?
[county] luisa, I would make you cry somehow.
[momocrome] the fastest road to this destination is with puppy murder
[momocrome] get a puppy, let her fawn over it a bit, then hack its' head clean off
[county] I will make you cry, I do so swear.
[luisa||||] nah, you cannot
[momocrome] it is how the Nazis trained their officers
[luisa||||] i don't always know why i cry
[luisa||||] but i do know boys aren't able to make it happen
[county] I don't care how long I have to employ arcane magic and technology to keep us both alive, but I will make you cry.
[county] Even if I must delight you, bore you, torture you, romance you, shun you, and pleasure you for tens of thousands of years, I will succeed.
[luisa||||] nope, you'll not
[county] We'll see who has the last laugh.
[luisa||||] hehe.
[county] That was a laugh, sure, but was it the last?
[county] Haha!
[county] Apparently not.
[luisa||||] hoho!
[county] Oh stop, you.
[luisa||||] certainement, chere
[momocrome] county, luisa||||, I hate to mention this
[county] Yet you're going to anyway?
[county] Why, I wonder?
[momocrome] but if those pics floating around of luisa|||| are accurate
[momocrome] she is my ideal woman
[county] Well, which ones?
[momocrome] i am compelled to finally mention it
[momocrome] by way of booze
[county] She doesn't actually look like a monkey, if those are the ones you're thinking of.
[momocrome] do you suppose those are the ones to which I refer?
[momocrome] I am probably just grasping at any outlet though
[county] Well, are you talking about the ones of a topless young black girl with a tattoo?
[momocrome] she was wearing a nice dress in the photos I saw
[momocrome] don't recall toplessness
[momocrome] bc had them on his server
[county] The topless girl with the tattoo isn't luisa.
[county] There are some ones of the real luisa wearing scandelously short dresses and skirts, though.
[momocrome] those are probably the ones I am thinking of
[county] OK.
[county] Well, get in line, buddy.
[momocrome] no prob'
[momocrome] i already have a girl, after all
[county] Yes, rub that in.
[county] Son of a bitch!
[luisa||||] yeah, i notice that about guys
[luisa||||] they find me quite attractive
[momocrome] and a bunch of airline miles!
[luisa||||] but at the end of the day, i haven't got them as boyfriends
[luisa||||] some less hot chick does
[momocrome] I can even upgrade to first class en route to Houston
[luisa||||] what's up with that?
[county] God damn you, luisa.
[county] bc took me off the access list, and I know it's your fault.
[momocrome] you'd have your pick in Seattle
[luisa||||] bc loves you
[luisa||||] no i wouldn't
[luisa||||] they wouldn't even talk to me
[county] He thinks I'm tempermental, untrustworthy, and fiery, though.
[luisa||||] just stare and smile some
[county] He doesn't think I'm fit to hold power.
[luisa||||] well, you are at that
[momocrome] well, if either qpt or I saw you on the bus, we'd both make our moves
[luisa||||] pfft
[luisa||||] well, i know qp is a doll
[momocrome] I am a Viking Warlord of a doll
[luisa||||] but i only like blond things for sport
[county] I'm not sure I'd recognize luisa.
[luisa||||] and qp is blonde
[county] I'm not.
[luisa||||] well, you should be
[momocrome] sure, shoot me down already.
[momocrome]
[luisa||||] next you'll be telling me you're not attractive, either
[momocrome] I might be as handsome as Yanni!
[luisa||||] and that you aren't a boy at all.
[county] I could say all of that.
[county] Have, at one point or another.
[luisa||||] so you are a girl?
[county] No, I'm not, sadly.
[luisa||||] a pity
[luisa||||] i like girls for sport well enough
[county] What sort of sport?
[momocrome] that's itg.
[momocrome] dammit
[momocrome] I have a hangnail all bandaged up
[momocrome] disrupts the typing
[luisa||||] what a night
[momocrome] you scoff.
[luisa||||] i chose irc and light reading and 80s music at home over 80s music in a club and loads of pointless drinking
[momocrome] but I tried to proclaim my love
[luisa||||] eh, you are drunqk and claimed
[luisa||||] and also non-local
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[county] I tried to proclaim my love, too.
[luisa||||] you are also drunk and non-local
[luisa||||] also, i have no idea what you look like
[county] You are so shallow!
[county] And you do know. bc showed you a picture.
[county] I asked him and he confirmed.
[luisa||||] i have no idea what picture
[county] I looked for it the other day, it wasn't online anymore.
[luisa||||] a shame
[county] It was a poor picture, anyway.
[county] I've gotten better looking in my twenties. I was quite pleased.
[luisa||||] well, it's no matter to me
[county] Yes it is. You prefer not to look at ugly pictures.
[luisa||||] you are either pasty faced dork or rather decent looking
[county] Everyone does.
[luisa||||] i shall never know which
* county gets an idea.
[county] If I were really pasty and really dorky, might you be brought to tears at the sight of me?
[luisa||||] no.
[luisa||||] else i'd weep daily
[luisa||||] just from walking around and about
[county] What's your opinion of ubu's picture?
[county] I was rather surprised.
[county] I'm not convinced it's him.
[luisa||||] if that is him, goddamn
[luisa||||] that's really it.
[county] And to think, he's been hitting on li'l ol' me!
[county] I feel flattered.
[luisa||||] heheh
[luisa||||] the thing is though
[luisa||||] it would be totally typical for a boy like him to look like that
[county] How do you mean?
[momocrome] http://www.gamesdomain.com/gdreview/zones/reviews
[luisa||||] i knew a guy similar in personality to him online
[momocrome] images fdrom a game I made
[luisa||||] the guy was so cagey about his appearance
[luisa||||] but he was super fucking gorgeous
[luisa||||] but also an invalid recluse who resided on his parents' estate
[luisa||||] i miss him sometimes
[county] haha! So you've mistaken my own hesitance to give out a picture for attractiveness.
[county] That's amusing.
[luisa||||] in your case, no
[county] You have to realize that most people who don't want to be seen simply do it out of ugliness.
[luisa||||] i was speaking of ubu's image that he chose to pony up
[luisa||||] nearly all the cagey guys i have met first online were superhot
[luisa||||] they just felt they lacked appeal
[county] I know that you were talking about ubu, but I was noting that it explained your somewhat bizarre notions about me.
[luisa||||] k5 has unfortunately shown me the more homely-ass end of the spectrum
[county] I don't know why you can't accept me as I am
[luisa||||] i haven't any idea what you am
[luisa||||] as in other areas of my life, i was horribly spoilt in my early online experiences
[luisa||||] pretty much everyone was very physically attractive, and also fun to hang out with offline
[luisa||||] mostly the people i get along with best online are also physically attractive
[momocrome] county's eyes arent gray.
[luisa||||] not every time, but 9/10
[momocrome] they are green-brown
[luisa||||] don't taunt, momo
[momocrome] mine are gray.
[luisa||||] green-brown is one of my favourite colours for eyes
[momocrome] also, I can track raccoon by the merest trace of their spoor
[luisa||||] grey can be interesting, but depends on the lad
[luisa||||] i am sure that is very nice.
[county] My eyes are green-brown. I've medium brown hair, and I'm caucasian, but with a fair amount of Iberian blood in me.
[momocrome] gray is the premium eye colour. don't fool yourself.
[luisa||||] pfft
[luisa||||] well, you sound pretty enough
[momocrome] Iberian isn't caucasian?
[luisa||||] if the boys i have known like that are anything to go on
[momocrome] I suppose it is moorish mixed
[momocrome] I am norse.
[county] momocrome is also fat.
[momocrome] bah!
[county] A big, fat viking.
[county] With a braided beard.
[luisa||||] haha
[county] He pillaged his bride from a nearby village.
[county] ^ Poetry.
[luisa||||] haha
[luisa||||] i am a sexy bitch who wishes boys liked her in a long term relationship way
[momocrome] I have been with my GF for 3 years 11 months
[momocrome] I have staying power
[luisa||||] yes, for her
[county] luisa, never trust a guy who leaves someone to be with you.
[luisa||||] i want a superhot boy who is clever
[luisa||||] and who wants me for a long time
[momocrome] well, since we haven't married, perhaps we need to move on now.
[luisa||||] i quite despair of ever attaining that
[county] You just don't strike me as the committing type, luisa.
[luisa||||] since bc is my evil twin
[momocrome] bc would marry you
[luisa||||] we could never marry, or even date, even when i am in scotland
[luisa||||] we could probably hang out some
[luisa||||] but anything more wouldn't even make sense at this point
[county] You seem too self-absorbed to be faithful. Faithfulness, though the rough spots, requires a real selflessness, and you don't appear to exhibit that. That's not to say that you couldn't be selfless, I have no idea. You don't seem it, though.
[luisa||||] i am very self-contained
[luisa||||] it has been a source of stress in every really serious thing with a guy
[luisa||||] also i have no tolerance for idiocy
[county] Guys are used to women being somewhat unreserved in their expressions of emotion. Maybe your aloofness is mistaken for lack of interest.
[momocrome] or frigidity
[county] Aye.
[luisa||||] well, i am warm enough in physical aspects
* em is back
[luisa||||] i just am cold outside physical expressions of intimacy
[luisa||||] hullo, em
[em] wrote another conference abstract, forgot to have dinner.
[luisa||||] korean
[county] The physical aspect isn't enough, though.
[luisa||||] man, because of you, the girls at the restaurant think i've been to korea
[em] who, me?
[luisa||||] because i can say all the dishes correctly
[county] It would just make you seem sluttish.
[em] bibimbap dolsat?
[em] kimchi?
[luisa||||] oh, there's loads of other things besides those
[em] those are all I know, so don't blame me, dammit
[luisa||||] haha, but i love them all
* em wrote a semi-sane abstract tonight
[luisa||||] sluts regret and get emotionally attached, though
[luisa||||] i don't
[momocrome] the most passionate and violent racists I have ever known are koreans that hate other koreans.
[em] and had a meeting earlier today with one of my profs about the crazy one I did yesterday
[county] Then you're even worse than a slut, then, if you feel no emotional attachment?
[em] He said: "I thought you were too young to write such Grand Old Man abstracts!"
[em] and then kind of mocked me by reading the first couple of sentences with an imitation of Roman Jakobson's accent.
[em] (yeah, my prof was a friend of Jakobson. sue me.)
*** momocrome is now known as Linux
[luisa||||] i feel emotional attachment
* em thinks Linux should be banned in this channel.
[luisa||||] it is just not something i bother the boy with
[county] You just said you didn't.
[county] The boy wants to be bothered with it, you nut!
[Linux] em, I think they are ripping on you in trolltalk
[luisa||||] no, that is just asking for rejection
[county] Of course, and there's the rub.
[em] luisa||||: i think you care too much.
[luisa||||] i always reject guys who want me lots
[Linux] em, with your actual christian name
[em] what's the URL for trolltalk?
* em is mildly curious.
[county] Maybe there are some guys who are more charitable than you, luisa.
[county] I suspect there are.
[Linux] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
[luisa||||] i haven't met any
*** Retrieving #adequacy info...
[county] Anyway, wanting you a lot right after meeting you and wanting you a lot after a few months of seeing each other frequently strike me as crucially different states of affairs.
[luisa||||] well, i reject in both cases
[luisa||||] usually because the guy isn't the right sort for my tastes
[county] Why?
[luisa||||] the ones i want will not suffer through the emotional coldness to stay with me
[county] What do you want? To love and be loved, but never admit it or have it be admitted to you?
* em looks at the trolltalk thing.
* em yawns.
[luisa||||] heh, probably, county
[Linux] there is a traiteor in the midst of the old inchfan crowd
[Linux] traitor
[Linux] gah
[Linux] ok, just thought you should know
* em yawns.
[county] Suffer through it? Why would they? From their perspective, you're frigid or not interested, and sticking around would be foolish and self-indulgent. They're only trying to make a graceful retreat when they can.
[em] who the hell is matt stanton?
[Linux] no idea
[Linux] it does bring up your stanford page as the first hit on google
[Linux] and judging by how hard they are harassing vlad, i'd keep an eye on things
* em doesn't really care by now.
[county] I'm glad my name wasn't on that list.
[county] I don't want to be targeted by those freaks!
[luisa||||] they know i'm interested, county
[county] Interested really isn't enough.
[county] Interested is wasting their time, after a point.
[county] They need to know you have some level of commitment.
[luisa||||] i'd stay only with them and not have any others, if they asked
[luisa||||] the boys i tend to like
[luisa||||] but they seem to all think i should be with someone more attractive physically
[county] Can you honestly be so dense?
* em realizes who Matt Stanton is, and simultaneously, the identity of the perpetrator.
[Linux] osm
[Linux] not that I know who matt stanton is
[county] Who is Matt Stanton?
[Linux] they are calling the whole bunch + vlad 'Vladequacy' and targetting all
*** luisa||| (~happy@dialup-64.152.241.224.Dial1.Houston1.Leve
[luisa|||] how am i dense when the boys are the ones saying i'm too pretty for them to deserve?
[county] luisa, the simple fact is that until you're willing to make yourself more emotionally vulnerable, you will never find what you want.
Outside of the core group , there are supporters,
wellwishers, and fellow Vlad haters who share one binding aspect
with us (disdain for Vladinator), but who aren't officially
affiliated with us. Thus, we do not form a "gang" or any other
recognizable command structure.
There many, many people in the world who dislike Lockwood; some
have formed into small groups to work together, but most act as free
agents. We don't really know the identities of many people outside
our core group, nor do we know whether a given person
outside our core group is a free agent or is affiliated
with another group.
These activities are by nature clandestine and solitary, thus we
only work freely with allies we've met in meatspace and can trust
absolutely. I have no idea of the exact number of fellow Vlad-haters
out there (I know it's large), or whether or not any of them have
formed cabals similar to our own, so please don't go lumping us all
together.
Generally, we operate in clusters or "cells" where one member of
one cell is designated as a messenger with a similarly designated
member of another cell. If the designated messenger is discovered,
that individual is "disposed of" and another individual is selected.
In this way, no single cell is aware of how many members are in
any other cell and the only thing known of the membership of other
cells is the mutual identities of the messengers. Each cell is
constructed such that only the messenger from one other cell
is in contact with the messenger of any given cell. Therefore, we
cannot form a "gang" as you call it.
Instead, you would be more correct to refer to us as a "sweeping
cluster of antibodies reacting to a foreign body in order to prevent
it from damaging the host."
Thanks bunches.
From: cptroll
:)/ 30/5377/2018&pid=60#66
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Nice on jsm
Date sent: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:07:10 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0038)
Hmmm. In this case, is the correct course of action to mod them both up
to 5? Jsm just because, and trhurler in order to make him even more
self-righteous and egg him on? Or would it be more effective just to mod
jsm up and leave trhurler at none and make him cry favoritism?
Trhurler is one bitter fuck. On any given story, you can find him voting
-1. And his diaries, too.
James <spiralx@spazmail.com> wrote:
>Keep us the good work winding trhurler up on k5, immensely amusing
>watching him slowly getting more and more outraged at you
>
>http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2000/11
>
>Funny as hell.
>
>J
(This is CP0038)
It is time to set the record straight regarding the situation with respect
to Vladinator/JCB/Reza/Lonesome Cowboy Burt/Whatever other aliases he may be
using. The situation has been confused due to the recent world-wide influx
of Vlad-haters, helper-cells, interested third parties and the occasional
Vlad sympathizer.
Let us start with a basic tenet of the Association of Anti-Vlad Avengers:
There is no difference between William Scott Lockwood III and those who
aid him, give him comfort, and/or use him as a substandard, "Always Save"
hosting solution. Though we may have no direct quarrel with you, Mr. "Trollaxor",
you appear to be friendly with Mr. Lockwood and - by your own admission - are
using him as a substandard "Always Save" hosting solution. Consider the fact
that if you were using a respectable host for your web site, you would not be
having the difficulties you are having now. Also, with this attempt at
ferreting out information for Mr. Lockwood, you are aiding and abetting our
sworn enemy and have aligned yourself in direct oposition to a powerful
internet force (that is, the AAA and its splinter groups).
This brings us to a primary characteristic of the AAA which has
been detailed elsewhere, but which I will repeat here in interest of
completeness: no single cell, as an entity, is aware of the members of
any other cell. The structure of our association works as follows. Each
cell is composed of no more and no less than three members who all reside in
a roughly similar geographic area. One of the three members is designated
as a messenger. This messenger is the only member in contact with a messenger
from exactly two other cells. In this way, the members of each cell remain
anonymous to the members of any other cell. If a messenger has been compromised,
the corresponding cell is responsible for "cleansing" that messenger and
replacing him or her with a new messenger. Such a cell will remain on
probation - meaning they will only be allowed contact with a single other
cell - until such time as the new messenger has been operating for no less
than six months.
Our activities are clandestine and even if another cell wanted to
share the information you request, it would not be able to because it
would not be privy to said information.
As you can see the AAA, though very loosely connected, operates
in a highly efficient manner and is deadly serious about the stated goals
of the organization: namely, the complete, unconditional eradication of
Vladinator, in any and all forms, from the internet.
We have been following the current situation with Vladinator's hosting
service quite closely and we estimate the damages to be severe at this point.
However, we cannot agree to end our champaign any sooner than already decided
upon. We may have shown mercy in this, our second major attack, if Mr.
Lockwood had shown the proper degree of humility at our hands. Instead,
Mr. Lockwood responded with his usual barrage of
lies
and vitriol.
For this reason, and the fact that we are otherwise bored, we have extended the
length of this attack. We realize that Mr. Lockwood's hosting company will try
various tricks to deflect our attack, things such as firewalls and IP banning. Eventually,
they will succeed in eliminating the current attack at which point we will rest for
a period of not less than seven days prior to initiating another attack.
We predict that the end of this second wave will result in another round of
cockiness from Mr. Lockwood, given the highly reactionary character that he is.
The next attack, which will be the "third wave", will be far more subtle than the
current attack and will undoubtedly shake Mr. Lockwood's faith in his current
alliances and dealings. This cycle of attack/end attack/Lockwood gets cocky/
attack again is necessary to wear down Mr. Lockwood's self-confidence and
general desire for continued existence.
As for the fate of Trollaxor.com, I would suggest you find a more suitable,
respectable host for your web site. Had you chosen your hosting solution more
wisely to begin with, you would not find yourself in the same sinking ship with
the rest of Lockwood's "customers". We would also like to remind you that it
is not we who are the enemy, it is William Scott Lockwood III who has
brought this upon himself and those who do business with him. Yes, our attacks
have been harsh and our dealings with Mr. Lockwood have been merciless, but simply
going over Mr. Lockwood's internet history shows that our cause is just and in the
best interests of the internet community at large. If we must sacrifice "innocent"
sites such as yours and kuro5hin, then so be it. It is a very small price to pay
for a truly Vladinator-free internet. An internet where true innocents can browse,
write and engage in discussion without fear of being choked at the hands of a
slobbering troglydite with bad glands
and a spastic colon.
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] New Opportunity
Date sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:38:48 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0021)
No, that's no good either. As it stands, "post as AC" is good for making contributions that are important but punished by the capricious whims of moderators (and is currently the only option for people who want to post something at 0 instead of defaulting to 1). It doesn't stop the ones intent on posting crap; if anything, it forces them to go into a separate "post nothing but crap" mode, where they would proceed to post, you guessed it, lots of crap.
One compromise that I wouldn't mind so much (but which Taco wouldn't implement) is an option for posting at 0 under one's username but not having negative moderation affect one's karma in that mode. Alternatively, there could just be an option for posting at 0 without the karma aspect, but while that'd be much easier to code and sounds like a good idea, it is itself subject to an enormous abuse: karmawhoring at the 0 level -- stuff that is halfway decent would be netting karma just by modding up to 1. That could be fixed by having only moderation above 1 affect total karma, but that's another level of complexity that Rob probably doesn't want.
Mendax Veritas <mendaxveritas@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Okay, so what do you think of the converse option, of
>removing the "Post Anonymously" option when a user is
>logged in? You'd have to log out to post AC, which
>would make it a little less convenient to protect
>one's precious karma. Is that a good thing?
>
>I don't think any single change to Slashdot's policies
>is going to magically do away with spammers,
>jackasses, or idiots. But if a minor change like this
>would be more positive than negative, then it's worth
>considering, and might do some good as part of a more
>comprehensive solution.
>
>--mv
(This is CP0021)
[dmg] and then I will be in Tokyo/south Korea in April /msg datebot Why aren't women drawn to my l33t Linux skilz?
[dmg] Who are you anyway Lumpen ?
[bc] you are drunk ever 36 hours
[dmg] I am not sure I should be giving this information out.
[Lumpen] Just a fan, dmg.
[county] Well, I need to stay sober for now, because I have a date!
[First_Incision] why am I always sober? I should take up this drinking thing.
[county] Yes, do.
[First_Incision] maybe I just need to get used to it. I could never drink enough to get drunk. Once I could feel stupidity creeping up, I could never bring myself to continue.
[county] Strange.
[dmg] county: did you get your date from reading the excellent dating advice available here on #adequacy ?
[county] Once I can feel stupidity creeping up, I can't bring myself to stop.
[county] dmg, I actually lied about having a date.
[Lumpen] does #adequacy have a dating-advice bot?
[dmg] county: its IRC
[dmg] you can lie if you want
[First_Incision] Lumpen: it should!
[First_Incision] zuul, dating?
[zuul] first_incision: wish i knew
[First_Incision] zuul, women?
[zuul] bugger all, i dunno, first_incision
[First_Incision] zuul, men?
[zuul] men are really just boys with financial responsibilities
[dmg] zuul, should I visit a whore ?
[zuul] dmg: wish i knew
[county] I witnessed an shocking display of female pettiness and cruelty today. It put me off.
[Lumpen]
[First_Incision] zuul, linux
[zuul] hmmm... linux is a big POS half rate OS that encourages pirates and blatant faggotry!!!!!
[bc] perhaps you aren't skillful enough
[First_Incision] there you go!
[bc] if you can use these skills to make lots&LOTS of money, they will be drawn to those skills
[Lumpen] Not skilzful enough?
[dmg] zuul, bsd
[zuul] rumour has it bsd is dying
*** bc has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer)
*** Sulla (gallus@modem-2446.porcupine.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #adequacy
[Lumpen] But I installed the Linux on my home b0xen all by myself!
[Lumpen] You should just reopen Adequacy. The joke has gone on long enough.
[First_Incision] Perdida has her Iniquity "Daily", but I can't seem to finish an article for it.
[Lumpen] Iniquity?
[First_Incision] www.iniquitydaily.com
[dmg] adequacy is dead. Red ink flowed like a river of blood! you didn't have to be Kreskin to see that it was dying. Fact: adequacy is dead.
[county] perdida has a scoop site?
[county] Oh heavens, do spare us.
[Lumpen] It looks like the most recent article on iniquitydaily was posted about a month ago.
[First_Incision] yeah
[Lumpen] Lame.
[First_Incision] And it was a k5 reject
[cyn-away] bc knows more about it
From: "80md"
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Evil enemies of Liberty
Date sent: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:36:06 EST
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0035)
>From: "Craig McPherson" <craig@laceyonline.com>
>
>I've heard that outside the United States, those are the only five sports
> that exist (Soccer, Polo, Spooning, Curling, and Snuckers), and I don't
>even know what the HECK four of them are.
Well, it's easy to understand why they do these things: They're undernourished, because they don't have much food out there in all the poor countries. So the average foreigner is about four foot six, maybe five feet tops, and they weigh about eighty pounds. Their teeth tend to fall out, and their bones are brittle as hell because they don't have milk. That's because their "commissars" took all their cows away. So you see, these poor "Europeans" as they call themselves, and the "Canadians" and whatnot, all these people are frail weaklings. They have no knowledge of freedom either, because they don't have a Genesis Document guaranteeing their rights, and they're given to sodomy and other degenerate practices because they've never been exposed to Christianity. Christianity is banned in Europe, did you know that? It's true. The Socialists always ban religion when they seize power. Of course, the Europeans were never free to begin with, so they don't know any better. They've always been slaves. It's all the same to them.
So their poor diet, their atheism, their slavehood, and their homosexuality have robbed them of their strength and their manhood. Therefore, they play girl games like Snuckers, Privet, and Gloon. While we eat our peas for the souls in Purgatory, they HAVE no peas. They limply push a ball around a field, with no manly, bone-crunching collisions to build their flaccid
characters. Where even our most girlish pseudomen play tennis, they teach badminton to their soldiers.
>Man, we need to get rid of those other countries. They want to abolish
>our sports and force us to play homosexual female sports like Polo and
>Spooning, whatever they are.
It's sad, but true. In fact, we'd only be putting them out of
their misery. They'd thank us if they understood.
--
80md
"Harry Browne seems to think he knows me personally --
I get a letter from him every week asking for money."
-- Craig
(This is CP0035)
Dear Trolls,
It has occured to me that you think that chainrust is me. I have received replies for emails I did not write, and other nonsense.
Thankfully, Chainrust (aka Pumpernickel and other nicks according to you) has contacted me to make the situation clear. Let me clear it further for the challenged of us out there:
Chainrust's name is not Jared Stattlemeyer. You have hardly any chance of finding his real identity (no, I will not tell you).
I am not Chainrust of Adequacy or Slashdot or K5.
The phone numbers you have published are not mine, but they may be of some other Jared Stattlemeyer, an Astroglide user in Jerusalem. The same goes for the email addresses.
In short, you are dumb. Very very dumb. The next time you decide that you can come to the right conclusions based on an incomplete evidence, please remember the above.
Oh, and by the way. I have your IPs. You visited my site, after all, didn't you? Does 64.94.151.187 look familiar? I have more. Think about that if you decide to harass that fellow in Jerusalem via phone. I will be the first to consult him on how to file a formal complaint with the police (I happen to volunteer in the Civil Guard). The "Jewish country" and US have signed agreements just for such cases.
Best regards,
Jared Stattlemeyer
This offer is no longer available. It's only being posted here to let Vladequacy see that they HAD the chance to avoid the destruction that is now upon them.
* * *
An amnesty is being extended to those with Adequacy affiliations, and others who may wish to save themselves from what is to come. You are being given one final chance to join teh winning team and avoid destruction. On January 1st, 2003, you can witness history in teh making and be forevar remembered as a part of teh greatest revolution in teh history of Trolling. Or you can be ground into dust by teh jackboot of obscurity, relegated to teh dustbins of trolling history as teh non-person has-beens you currently are.
Do you know where teh momentum lies? Do you know where teh power lies? Do you know who hold teh winning cards in his hand? It's not you. Years ago, maybe. Not anymore. You think that you are k22320inchfan. You aren't. Not anymore. Teh k22320inchfan essence was taken from you long ago. You nevar even noticed when its rightful heir walked off with it; you just slipped gradually into mediocrity and boredom. K22320inchfan is being held elsewhere, in secret, guarded by people who know how to use it. You don't have it anymore. We do. We are teh k22320inchfan, not you. We have teh power, not you. We will survive, not you.
This will be your only warning.
Join us or die. CAN you do any less?
We are teh Trollers. Are you a Troller? Or are you nothing? There's no middle ground.
January 1st, 2003. It all ends, and it all begins. Teh Third Age of Trolling. Teh New Cabal of Trollers. There will be no dissention. There will be no disloyalty. You will be with us, teh Trolls, in teh New Future, or you will be a part of teh Forgotten Past. This will be your only warning; your only opportunity for salvation. You have transgressed against teh mother of us all, teh sacred Troll-Zen, but you can be forgiven.
Here's teh secret of life: you troll, or you're trolled. Which will it be?
Now go do teh right thing. This is your chance for amnesty. Shoeboy, CP, BC, and most Geekizoiders (exceptions may be made in extreme cases) need not bother applying. Some things can nevar be forgiven. Blasphemy against teh Trollers can be forgiven, but blasphemy against teh Troll-Zen will nevar be forgiven, in this world or teh next.
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From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Last day at work
Date sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:28:42 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0008)
Heh, you showed more sense than I. The last time I
tried pulling a stunt like that (revealing such
affections), the object of my affection nearly drove
off the road and into some parked cars. Everything's
still fine between us, but there were those few
fleeting moments involving a high-speed vehicle and
several tons of steel which wouldn't have worked so well.
(This is CP0008)
I just got an identical scam pertaining to PayPal. I was directed to enter info into PayPal scam site
YHBT YHL HAND
[luisa|||] i don't know if i can ever be that weak and female ... So you had no Mr.Buck temptations .. :) .... my tongue feels funny and I like to lick things (people). I need a voice of reason to keep me out of trouble. ... :\/ 674/65#65 ;)3 .net) has joined #adequacy ... firefighters, police, nurses, teachers ;)t ml :-) :-) :-) lol ;P
[luisa|||] i.e. find a guy worth that loss
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[county] Why is it weak to confess your feelings to the one you feel for?
[luisa|||] because then they've got you in the knees
[luisa|||] why should i always be the one who cares the most?
[luisa|||] and on top of that, have to cop to it?
[Linux] hey grewat, big cop bust outside
[county] Because, luisa, somebody has to, and if it's them, you'll reject them.
[county] I'm not seeing many other options. How about you?
[Linux] shouting and threatening tones
[Linux] I am going to go walk the dogs past the bust while drunk
[county] What bust?
[Linux] dunno
[Linux] they are shouting at drunks, I think
[county] Who?
[Linux] maybe there will be death
[Linux] cops
[Linux] many of them
[Linux] 8 cars at least
[luisa|||] eek
[Linux] maybe I'll get shot
[county] There are 8 cop-cars full of cops shouting at drunks?
[Linux] yes
[Linux] two drunks by the sound of things
[luisa|||] county, if i find a guy i consider my equal
[luisa|||] it would all work out
[Linux] they are right past the corner of my building
[luisa|||] wait
[luisa|||] eight cops, two drunks?
[luisa|||] that is Not Right.
[Linux] i think so
* luisa||| waits for a cool song to come on
[county] You've never met a guy who you consider your equal?
[Linux] luisa|||, are you actually listening to radio broadcasts of popualr music?
[county] I suppose that makes sense, actually. Most are probably your superior or inferior.
[county] I think it's fairly obvious which side I fall on.
[luisa|||] you could be inferior
[luisa|||] but you probably know lots of things i don't
[luisa|||] and you also are more productive in daily life
[county] I am so far beyond you, luisa.
[county] Come on.
[luisa|||] i love cheesy 80s music
[luisa|||] nah, you are just different
[luisa|||] the measure would be if i made you feel weak and helplessly resentful
[luisa|||] that's inferior
[luisa|||] and only assessable face to face
[Linux] luisa|||, you spin me twice 'round, baby.
[county] If you made me feel weak and helplessly resentful? Haha.
[luisa|||] well, anyone who feels like a lesser person probably is
[luisa|||] or at least is not worth bothering with
[em] you guys still going on about this? God.
[county] Only a few people have made me inferior, and none of them were at all like you.
[luisa|||] it is friday night and neither of us are out carousing, em
[luisa|||] whatever did you expect would occur?
[em] neither am I.
[luisa|||] but you are at uni
[county] em, have you been drinking?
[em] well, I went to a chamber chorale concert.
[em] county: not a drop
[em] maybe I should.
[county] Probably. It makes you more tolerant.
[luisa|||] anyhow, county, it is all moot
[luisa|||] i am not going to bed with you
[luisa|||] so the question of whether you are inferior or not will never come up
[county] I'm not going to bed with you. What of it?
[county] Anyway, it has come up, and it's been settled. I'm superior.
[luisa|||] if you feel that you are
[luisa|||] i do rather want to go to bed
[luisa|||] but i just finished supper
* em wonders if he has anything edible in the fridge.
[luisa|||] i have lovely soup i made from random ingredients
[Linux] katsup is a vegetable
[luisa|||] only for bachelors
[luisa|||] lord, it is four am rising
[county] It's "catsup" or "ketchup."
[luisa|||] okbed
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[Linux] night, wheesie
[Linux] I am really nothing like a viking, btw
[county] Oh, I'm sure.
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[Marco`] Hi
[Marco`] Anyone alive?
* Marco` 's off
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[me0w] g'morning
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[bc] hello
[me0w] Hi bc
[bc] hellow me0wsy
* bc was just in the pub
[bc] and you know what?
[me0w] What?
[bc] a woman in her late forties started coming onto me something dreadful
[bc] unlike some, I wasn't in the least tempted
[me0w] Ahhh
[bc] certainly not
[me0w] Well done!
[bc] it's not a great achievement, I think these things are in your nature.
[bc] Either you adore OAP's, or you don't.
[bc] cool
[bc] scotland beat south africa at the rugby!
[me0w] I think though, in Mr. Buck's case, he may have been wearing some good quality Beer Goggles.
[bc] that's a point. Still, I did have 3 pints, I wasn't entirely sober, but probably not as many Mr Buck. I think alcohol just decreases your reserve, it doesn't make you suddenly find things attractive you don't while sober
[bc] I mean, if you wake up after a night out with a member of your own sex (for example), it prolly says something
* bc has some prawns
[me0w] This is why everyone needs a voice of reason when drinking. I take mine along whenever I am going to be consuming cast quantities of alcohol (the voice of reason is also known as the designated driver).
[bc] hehe
[me0w] cast = vast
[bc] strange, I don't have problems. In fact, I reject much more impressively and fullsomely when drunk than when sober. I don't need no stinkin' voice of reason!
[me0w] When I am intoxicated I run across a problem
[bc] haha! I remember you mentioning this before. That's an awful affliction, though prolly pretty amusing
[me0w] And apparently I become quite the mischevious girl and for this I also need the voice.
[bc] to stop you mixing it up too much? Playing tricks and pranks
[me0w] And the licking
[bc] this makes you sound like quite the handful when pissed
[me0w] A giggly handful, yes.
[me0w] That's why I need a voice of reason.
[bc] I don't think I'm too bad when drunk. In fact, I'm often the voice of reason for other people, despite that we have all drunk hideous amounts. I'm just the same as usual, but more exhuberantly, I suppose. I think I have a good head for booze by nature, that's prolly why
[bc] mm that was tasty
[bc] post-prandial smoke time
[me0w] enjoy
* bc wonders whether to watch "contact" on dvd, which he has, but hasn't watched, though he read the book years ago
[bc] which I liked, I liked the way it was all about revelation, and its validity
[bc] the woman in it was sort of like a hardcore kurobot at first, you know, utterly logical positivist and materialist and dismissive of anything that can't be proved utterly, of revelation, till it all comes back and bites her when she has her own revelatory experience
[me0w] I don't think I have ever seen this film.
[bc] it's supposed to be decent.
[bc] I think a lot of people hated it, and another lot of people loved it
[me0w] I will have to add it to my must see list of films.
[bc] it's a sort of SF thing, in a way, and I think a lot of the people who disliked it were expecting some usual guns'n'aliens shite
[me0w] I normally don't watch 'alien' movies.
[bc] it's not really like that. The book wasn't at least. It's set present day
[bc] they discover an alien signal
[bc] this woman does
[bc] and there's lots of politics and argument about it
[bc] and she is hardcore rationalist and dismissive of the religious people
[bc] but in the end, she ends up having an experience that everybody doubts she had, a revelation..
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[bc] hey ct
[me0w] Good Afternoon Captain
[bc] el capitano
[Captain_Tenille] Ahoy
[Captain_Tenille] What goes on in these parts?
* Captain_Tenille finally got some sleep last night
[bc] You are admirably offensive; you have won. I am offended, many times over. Now please, leave me the fuck alone. --infinitera
[Captain_Tenille] ?
[bc] I am not admirably offensive
* Captain_Tenille wades through the k5rap
[me0w] There was nothing interesting on K5 this morning
[Captain_Tenille] Nope. Doesn't look like it.
[Captain_Tenille] Yawn
[Captain_Tenille] All right, time to make breakfast, I think
[Captain_Tenille] I may be on later.
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[me0w] they leave so quickly
[bc] yes
[me0w] I made coffee, but now I find I'm too lazy to go and pour it.
[bc] Catch 22 then
[bc] you need some caffeine to rouse you to pour it
[me0w] I need to hire someone to make it for me.
[me0w] But this person must agree to be paid in post-it notes as I have no funds.
[me0w] My new site format seems to be coming along. I might actually like it.
[bc] hehe
* bc is writing a ranty comment
[me0w] Will it be exciting?
[bc] maybe if you like seeing infinitera being attacked, otherwise it's prolly not your thing
[bc] it will be 0ed though, as usual, by him
[bc] but shant be in the hidden wueue for long
[me0w] I will give it a 5 if it is exciting
[bc] yay
[bc] http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/11/15/17928
[bc] there you go me0w
[me0w] I am giving you a 5 for the number of words you used
[bc] woohoo!
[bc] I quite often start typing, and type and type and type in fury
[bc] and I don't really attack him personally till towards the end
[bc] infinitera is a twat
[me0w] Well, I think the "I think you a cunt" might be a bit insulting
[bc] it's possible
[me0w] For some anyway
[me0w] I might take that as a compliment.
[bc] I'd just laugh and respond in kind
[bc] I don't understand the people who get so worked up about lack of civility on the internet
[bc] it's all just a laugh
[me0w] It is all for my amusement
[bc] when ubu and I met, we were calling each other cunts immediately, and being dreadfully insulting. We knew instantly we liked the other
[me0w] That is when you know it is true love.
[bc] indeed. I don't love ubu like a brother, I love him like the homosexual partner I never had
[me0w] I should send flowers to celebrate your relationship.
[bc] that would be very nice of you. The anniversary is very soon, actually
[me0w] Brilliant!
*** gurl (~happy@dialup-64.152.253.58.Dial1.Houston1.Level
[bc] hi, gurrrrl
[gurl] hullo, you
[me0w] Hello
[gurl] christ i overslept
[bc] what time is it where you are? 11:30?
[gurl] twelve thirty
[bc] damn firemen
[bc] striking bastards, is what they are
[bc] there was a housefire here, the soldiers had to break the picketlines, and 6 people were injured due to smoke inhallation. The firemen deliberately tried to stop the aid going out to the fire
[me0w] That isn't good.
[me0w] I can understand the strike, but preventing aid is not ethical.
[bc] the fire service should be shut down and replaced with a nice big charity
[bc] they get £21,000 as a starting wage, the firemen, which is well above the national average wage, After a few years, it rises considerably further, and they have already been offered an 11% raise and rejected it - they are going for 30% (!)
[bc] for what? 99% of the time they are sitting about playing cards
[me0w] 21,000 is far too little
[bc] the fire service should be like the RNLI
[bc] me0w, that's a starting wage for a newly qualified fireman
[bc] the national average wage for everyone is £17,000
[bc] this isn't a rich country like America, with its closer embrace of capitalism, where the national average is more like £30,000
[me0w] I guess I just know people who make more than that.
[me0w] I still think 21,000 is rather low
[bc] £21,000 is perfectly decent as a starting wage
[bc] nurses get £14,000, soldiers £16000, as starting wages
[bc] policemen £17,000
[me0w] Nurses should get more, as well as police men
[me0w] The train people should get less.
[bc] well, ideally I'm sure everybody would be getting £1,000,000 annually, but I'm not willing to see the government take more than half my earnings away to give to these people. If they don't want to work for those wages, they can switch to the private sector.
[bc] and yes, the train sods especially suck
[bc] they went on strike at glasgow underground forcing me to walk 6 miles through highly dodgy parts of glasgow in the rain
[me0w] I think that there are certain professions that should be paid more
[bc] I think it is fine, as long as the money isn't stolen by threat of violence off others to do so.
[gurl] er, no.
[bc] a free market would sort them out, it is only ever public sector workers that strike anyway.
[gurl] nothing teachers do warrants more money
[bc] they'd pay fairly
[gurl] nurses get paid very well for their hours and labour
[me0w] nurses are underpaid
[gurl] at least, if the flooded nursing schools are any indication
[bc] also, funnily enough teachers in scotland just got a 25% increase a couple of years ago. There is now a big "brain drain" of the best teachers from england to scotland. heh!
[me0w] Which is why there are a shortage - they go places where they will be better paid
[gurl] yes, and that is the hospital down the road
[gurl] it is a highly paid but stressful job
[gurl] not everyone can hack it
[gurl] thus, the shortage
[bc] here, all the best doctors and nurses go to America
[bc] where they get paid decently
[me0w] A large number of nursing students in Canada go to the US, and the Middle East - they are usually paid more than double what they make here
[bc] we in turn import from India and scandinavia
[gurl] haha
[gurl] but scanadinavia is supposed to be the perfect country!
[gurl] all socialist paradise and whatnot
[gurl] well, the countries in that region
[bc] not judging by the delectable nurses at my local hospital, loads of whom are danish, norwegian, swedish
[gurl] well, being raised socialist apparently doesn't kill the desire to earn a fair wage for services and all that
[bc] norwegian especially, but I think that is because lots of norwegians come to scotland anyway, cos it is quite close
[gurl] lord, i don't want to go bed shopping
[bc] it certainly doesn't, gurl
[bc] shopping in bed, or shopping for a bed?
[gurl] for a bed
[bc] get one that doesn't creak or have annoying springs
[bc] the best bed I ever had was one that was a platform of wood planks, with a really thin mattress on top
[bc] that thing was great
[bc] prolly quite cheap, too
[gurl] i just want a futon
[bc] never tried one of those, are they good?
[me0w] Get a sturdy futon
[me0w] Over time the frame can bend
[gurl] i was thinking a metal one
[me0w] You'll want a thick mattress on it (if they give that option)
[bc] cool
* bc watches Only Fools and Horses
[gurl] actually, i will go tomorrow since i cannot carry the sodding thing home with me
[bc] hehe
[gurl] i think i'll just take the bed frame from my old bed
[gurl] and buy a new mattress
[bc] heh. Sounds good
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[gurl] it's a gorgeous day
[gurl] but utterly cold and crystal clear out
[bc] I love that
[bc] cold and clear
[bc] and sunny
[bc] perfect weather as far as I'm concerned
[bc] gurl, how did it go with that chap?
[gurl] he friend zoned me
[bc] ah hah
[bc] I did that to a girl week last week after a date. It's surprisingly hard. Requires delicacy
[gurl] so i have a perfectly nice male friend
[bc] well that's something at least
[bc] I have a nice big fillet steak and some English mustard
[gurl] i have a hearty beef stew
[bc] oh splendid
[gurl] haha
[gurl] i am reading about the french foreign legion
[bc] oh yes. That's France's only *professional* section of the army eh?
[bc] I know someone who served in it for 21 years
[gurl] it is terribly intensive
[bc] yes
[bc] long marching through the desert and stuff
[gurl] and no girls allowed!
[bc] http://britishsas.8m.com/training.html
[bc] ^I think that is about the globally hardest training&selection for any regiment
[bc] they are insane
[bc] as part of it, they have the applicant (after a week of insane marching and activity) look after a pet rabbit in the mountains for a while. he is completely alone, and must forage for his own food and protect the rabbit for ages. Then, he recieves an order to kill and eat the rabbit
[bc] quite sadistic
[gurl] haha
[gurl] there's a kill house?!
[bc] they are special forces
[bc] anti-terrorist stuff is one of their duties
[bc] storming embassies, say, like when they stormed the Iranian embassy and freed all the hostages in London in the 80's
[bc] they were the first special forces unit in the world, created during WWII
[gurl] lordy
[bc] Delta Force in the US was founded in the 70's by an American officer who lobbied for it after seeing the SAS and serving in an exchange program in the UK army
[bc] but they aren't as good. They have a slightly different ethos. Delta Force peeps tend to be really big and brawny, and their modus operandi is to be flown in on a big helicopter and shoot everything up before being flown away again
[bc] the SAS are different, in that they believe in more traditional marching and approaching the target on foot. They tend to get dropped far away, sneak about hundreds of miles, attack, and sneak away. And they operate in teams of 8 generally
[bc] http://home.hccnet.nl/22.sas/Operation%20Nimrod.h
[bc] ^that was mad
[bc] I remember watching it on tv
[gurl] so the sas do it properlike
[gurl] well, more like people think such things work
[bc] of course! ie, no hostage deaths, all terrorists dead, seemingly miraculously
[bc] it's sort of amazing
[bc] another famous one was the scud stuff during the gulf war
[bc] one of their missions went wrong, they were given wrong maps
[bc] and they were euipped for desert conditions, but it was frequently -20C and snowing etc
[bc] and they got discovered and stormed by two lorry loads of iraqi tropps, tanks, etc, from a local base
[bc] so the 8 of them killed ALL of them, then walked 100km overnight carrying 80lb bergens in freezing conditions
[bc] they are sort of insane those people. Not qute normal, but very good at what they do (wholesale, efficient slaughter)
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[gurl] damn
[bc] and also, cos it is UK army, it is not just UKians, they select from many countries in the commonwealth
[gurl] reminds me of stephen king's gunslinger
[bc] so canadians and australians and NZers and Nepalians can see the SAS as the peak of their career, if they are good enough to make it through selection
[Captain_Tenille] SAS?
[bc] yes
[gurl] british special forces
[Captain_Tenille] Aha
* Captain_Tenille always thought MI5 and MI6 were cool acronyms
[bc] hehe
[Captain_Tenille] Although for the longest time I thought it was M16
[Captain_Tenille] Which seemed odd
[bc] ct, during WWI it went from MI1 all the way to MI20
[bc] also, MI5 & MI6 didn't officially exist until very recently
[Captain_Tenille] I was just about to ask what happened to MI1-4
[gurl] heh
[bc] having no constitutional checks, the government is free to deny they exist at all
[gurl] haha
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[gurl] oh look@
[gurl] er, nevermind
[Captain_Tenille] The US gov denied the existence of the NSA forever.
[bc] same as SAS, which didn't officially exist till the 90's,, and is still v.secret
[Captain_Tenille] I don't think they officially acknowledge the Delta Force
[bc] the SAS are fun because they are the first special forces group, and most other western country's special forces groups were founded, usually much later, on that model, often by officers who saw the SAS in exchange programmes and thought it a jolly good idea
[bc] Delta Force being a case in point, in the 70's. Same with Germany's, france's. Greece's, Israel's, etc etc
[bc] but SAS are teh best!
[gurl] it is impressive what humans can be taught to do
[Captain_Tenille] Is SAS just Green Beret style special forces, or does it include PSYOPS and Civil Affairs type stuff
[Captain_Tenille] ?
[bc] that's the other thing with the SAS, the complete lack of traditional army discipline, which was very new
[bc] ct: it is mostly military and anti-terrorist
[bc] there is another group that specialises in civil intelligence
[bc] that sometimes work with the SAS, but the SAS are purely a military machine
[Captain_Tenille] Civil Affairs handles the military's relations with the governments of the countries they're in.
[Captain_Tenille] Should said government fall, they set up a caretaker government in it's place.
* Captain_Tenille 's dad did that for a long time
[bc] coo
[gurl] bc, my sibling is all rotting in the county jail
[bc] haha
[bc] what'd he do?
[gurl] his warrant caught up to him
[bc] damn
[gurl] he owes about 400£ in fines
[Captain_Tenille] I just found out yesterday, actually, what my dad did after he worked as a codebreaker during the Vietnam War.
[county] bc, you've millions, get gurl's brother out of the clink.
[bc] he deserves it, county
[bc] Contributing to the skill of the SAS is the Operations Research Unit which develops unique equipment for use by the SP team.
[county] That's beside the point. She'll be indebted to you.
[bc] ^^hehe, that's like "m" in james bond
[gurl] bc, he found a job
[gurl] and now he will lose it
[gurl] because of extended absence
[bc] damn it
[bc] what's he fined for?
[Captain_Tenille] Aren't you guys going to ask what my dad did?
[bc] isn't that classified, ct?
[Captain_Tenille] He didn't tell me much.
[gurl] speeding ticket, i think
[Captain_Tenille] Just enough to make me boggle.
[Captain_Tenille] zuul, he?
[zuul] he is not
[bc] but he was army, eh? mad
[Captain_Tenille] Wouldn't tell me what he did
[gurl] then why build us up so cruelly]?
[Captain_Tenille] NSA. That's all we would say.
[Captain_Tenille] er, he
[county] Come on, bc, give her brother a chance.
[county] He's trying to turn is life around!
[county] He's in jail because of ancient history.
[bc] you're right county. I will bail him right away.
[county] Good man.
[county] I'm sure gurl will be very grateful.
[gurl] some woman is presently trying to adopt me
[county] But you're too old for that.
[bc] is she older, and with grown up children who have flown the nest?
[gurl] yeah, pretty much
[gurl] except her grown kids are still in the nest
[county] And she wants more.
[gurl] she thinks i'm a unique snowflake
[gurl] and wants to feed and clothe me and all that
[bc] weird, gurl
[gurl] aye
[bc] weird weird weird
[gurl] and the annoying guy at work who kept trying to pay me to go out with him
[county] So are you going to take her up on it?
[gurl] he got in a horrible car wreck and was fired
[gurl] she is rather like mother
[gurl] except less manipulative and deceitful
[county] Did he get fired for getting in the car wreck?
[gurl] not quite
[gurl] he was fired for trying to come back to work
[gurl] with a broken neck
[bc] he offered you money? heh, how desperate
[gurl] well, he is married
[gurl] and also i don't want him
[gurl] but he just couldn't seem to accept that
[bc] "Please come out with me?" - "No." - "I'll give you £500."
[county] That's really harsh.
[bc] it's damned right, gurl
[county] He was so dedicated to his work that he wanted to come in, but he got fired instead!
[bc] I'm proud of you!
[county] Couldn't they just tell him to go home and sleep it off?
[gurl] he got in the accident whilst drunk
[gurl] and it was off duty anyhow
[gurl] so they can easily get him on inability to perform
[gurl] and he could hardly even sit down
[gurl] the doctor hadn't signed a release
[gurl] so however cruel it sounds, they had every reasonable right to fire him
[county] Still, to be unemployed and mangled in these times is difficult. He'll probably end up on the street.
[gurl] no, his wife is utterly devoted and loving
[gurl] and makes piles of money
[gurl] she wanted only to take care of him
[county] He has a devoted wife who makes lots of money, but wants a little on the side too?
[county] That seems risky.
[gurl] but he wanted to go drinking and sleep with other women
[county] I should find a rich, devoted wife.
[county] Having one could be convenient.
[gurl] it was the only thing that saved him
[county] Some guys have all the luck.
[bc] hehe
[gurl] i am sure bc would happily arrange for you to acquire a wealthy wife
[bc] it's true. There's a lucky sod I know who's wife is a civil engineer making tons of cash. All he does is footer about spending her money on computers and crap. They love each other very much and seem very happy. Sickening, it is.
[county] Yeah, I need someone to take care of me!
[county] I'm tired of being responsible.
[bc] BRB, mobile shop
[gurl] have a beer
[gurl] actually, have five or six
[county] What's a mobile shop?
[county] Anyway, that's too many beers.
[gurl] well, however many will intoxicate you
[gurl] women like to help men in that state
[county] Haha!
[county] What nonsense.
[county] Women hate drunks.
[gurl] depends on the drunk boy
[gurl] i find some of them endearing
[bc] damn it's cold
[county] Well, what do you expect? Your house was built before heat was invented
[county] What's a mobile shop, though?
[bc] I am an endearing drunk boy. My cold reserve melts away, revealing a vulnerable and heartbreakingly fascinating character. I find that women are much more interested in me when drunk, than when sober.
[county] uh huh
[bc] county, a shop on wheels that drives around selling things. It parks outside my front door
[county] What sort of things?
[bc] in this instance, I got dunhills and Irn Bru, and a bottle of Gin
[county] So you've gone back to the bottle.
[county] tsk tsk.
[bc] all sorts, county. There are many of them, in fact. Soem are mobile butchers, others mobile grocers and fishmongers. This one sells everyday necessities
[county] Like I said, though, some guys have all the luck. When sober, I'm undesirable. When intoxicated, I'm undesirable in a different way.
[county] Everyday necessities like dunhills, Irn Bru, and gin.
[bc] Yup.
[county] dunhills sound like cigarettes. What's Irn Bru?
[bc] they sell what's sold most in the local community
[bc] county: http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/irn-bru/index.asp
[gurl] what's a good poll topick before i hotfoot it elsewhere?
[bc] poll? hmmn
[county] I don't think I've ever seen any of that, bc.
[bc] favourite spirit?
[gurl] irn bru is only in scotland
[county] That would be all you can think of.
[bc] county, well, it is actually illegal in the US, the FDA won't allow it to be sold there
[bc] so it isn't surprising
[county] gurl, "Favorite condiment to lick off nipples?"
[bc] it contains too much iron, or something
[county] Be sure to include horseradish as an option.
[wsl3] county: Hot Thai Red Curry
[bc] it's very very popular in russia though
[Captain_Tenille] What on earth is it? And why is it illegal?
[bc] ct, it's just a soft drink. It's illegal cos the FDA don't like it's iron content
[wsl3] What is?
[Captain_Tenille] Ah
[gurl] man, i suppose i am not cut out for daytime drinking
[gurl] my tummy hurts now
[wsl3] gurl: Have some nice cock. That should solve the problem, but only if you get all the way down and get the protien suprise at the end.
[gurl] i don't see how
[gurl] protein makes my tummy hurt
[wsl3] They'll cancel each other out.
[gurl] i somehow doubt this.
[gurl] i love my diary.
[wsl3] Nah, I can show you if you want!
[county] Give up, wsl3. The fact is, you can only score with fatties.
[wsl3] give it up county, the fact is, I don't care what you think.
[county] That doesn't make any sense, idiot. I wasn't trying to influence your opinion.
[bc] I love your diary too, gurl =)))
[gurl] hehe
[wsl3] county: Uh huh.
[gurl] there is nothing wrong with fatties, if they have attractive features
[gurl] and don't look like useless lumps of crap
[wsl3] Bingo!
* wsl3 is a FFA
[gurl] fatty fucker anonymous?
[wsl3] LOL
[wsl3] FFA == Fullfigured Female Admirer
[gurl] oh god
[county] Vlad's fatties look like useless lumps of crap, gurl.
[gurl] i HATE those
[wsl3] county is a useless lump of crap
[county] These women aren't fat, gurl, they're disgustingly hyper-obese.
[wsl3] gurl - hate what? Voluptous women?
[county] 300lbs.
[gurl] a girl can be voluptuous without being heavy
[bc] FFA give BBWs TLC and have a GSOH
[county] A three hundred pound woman isn't voluptuous.
[county] She's hyper-obese.
[wsl3] county: I know lots of attractive 300lb women.
[gurl] no, that's a porker
[gurl] i don't know any.
[county] You don't know any!
[county] You're delusional.
[wsl3] Depends - what if she's like 6' tall?
[gurl] and i know some decent looking big girls
[gurl] then she shouldn't exceed 250
[wsl3] gurl: Top size?
[gurl] and that only if she is super muscular
[wsl3] gurl: Nah - I've seen women as high as 400lbs that I'd do.
[gurl] well, men are less picky about that
[county] I'm not.
[county] I'm not interested in girls much over 150.
[gurl] well, that leaves the taller ones out
[gurl] unless they are very slim
[Captain_Tenille] Tall girls are overrated
[wsl3] gurl: That depends - in general I don't find a woman attractive under 175 or so unless she is stunningly beautiful and has a personallity to match.
[Captain_Tenille] *under* 175?
[gurl] that is a shame for you, wsl3
[county] I don't much like taller girls, gurl.
[wsl3] under, yes.
[gurl] i personally think too many people are heavy
[county] Much beyond 5'6" is too tall, I think.
* Captain_Tenille 's gf is 5'
[wsl3] gurl: I don't find it a shame at all! I have a full, active, loving sex life, thank you very much.
[gurl] but that said, i don't mind heavy people who don't whine about it
[gurl] of course you do
* wsl3 doesn't whine - he has no cheese to go with it.
[gurl] i know lots of plain couples that can't get enough of each other
[Captain_Tenille] Off to get a hair cut.
[Captain_Tenille] Ta ta.
[gurl] which is great for them
[gurl] hasta
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[bc] woohoo
[bc] there's nothing wrong with plain people. Or even ugly people, if they are self confident enough and interesting and especially good natured enough
[gurl] ok, i have to fix someone's cd rom
[bc] happy hacking!
[gurl] well, that is true of anyone
[county] Aye, and there's the rub, bc.
[gurl] there is no hacking involved!
[county] It's easier to become beautiful than it is to become interesting or good natured.
[gurl] it's purely a mechanical issue
[county] If one isn't already.
[bc] you are fixing a technical computer device
[gurl] bof, i am fixing a thingy with serrated wheels
[bc] with what, you say?
[bc] that sounds complicated
[gurl] little wheels with chopped bits
[county] A serrated wheel? Isn't that a gear?
[bc] I'm a man, I don't understand technical things, I just leave it to women
[gurl] yeah, i guess
[gurl] two little gears that aren't spinning the drive out
[county] Well, get that cute little can of yours over there and start fixing things!
[county] Chop chop!
[gurl] i have to finish my beer
[gurl]
[county] bc, what should I do with myself today?
[bc] I think you should go to the pub
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[county] It's kind of dismal out.
[bc] and drink beer, play darts, and watch the match
[cdromgurl] yes, do go, since i cannot
[cdromgurl] wave
[bc] that's why I didn't suggest the park, county
[bc] bye happy hackess!
[county] I don't know where any pubs are. In fact, I think they're illegal in Seattle.
[bc] http://www.nwbrewpage.com/wabpubs/WestSea.html
[bc] go there
[wsl3] lol
[bc] though I must say, the huge billboard sign at the front puts me off
[bc] here, they just have a tiny sign
[bc] I suppose Americans insist on the 25foot billboard treatment
[county] That's really far away.
[bc] get the metro then!
[county] Anyway, going to a pub is way too social.
[bc] you don't need to talk to anyone
[bc] clearly, you aren't very familiar with pubs at all
[bc] they can be profoundly antisocial
[county] Of course I don't, but I feel odd being out by myself.
[county] There isn't any point in going out to be anti-social.
[wsl3] Go nude. That will get some attention.
[county] Shut up.
[wsl3] no
[wsl3] You can forget about that.
[wsl3] If I'm in front of my computer, and I see something I want to respond to, I will - same as you.
[county] Shut up, really.
[wsl3] No.
[wsl3] really.
[bc] blargle
[wsl3] bc: What's new with Kip? Has anyone seen him?
[bc] heis in London, that's all I know
[county] I'm going to go shower.
[county] When I come back, I'm going to have some booze, a pastrami sandwich, and pour at my innermost hopes and dreams.
[county] "out"
[wsl3] ah
[bc] looking forward to it
[wsl3] Well, I'll be quite for that.
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[Sulla] hey momo
It's been my experience that people who cry "whaaa, whaaa, I'm going to sue you!" or "whaaa, whaaa, I'm going to come to your house and kick your ass!" or "whaaa, whaaa, I'm going to call the police and have them arrest you for being mean to me" whenever they feel personally offended on the Internet tend to be terribly immature and have serious emotional problems. People who aren't confident with themselves and feel inferior about their own abilities try to boost their own self-esteem by making empty threats of lawsuits or physical assault whenever they're on the losing end of a flamewar.
His face will turn red, he'll start to wheeze and stutter, and he will angrily type, "Yeah, well, just wait until I tell my uncle at the CIA about how rude you've been to me! He'll come and arrest you and you'll go to jail and I'll sue you for everything you have! Then I'll kick your ass, and have sex with your girlfriend!"
He will then drag his corpulent, out-of-shape, virginal body across the basement to bed and drift off to slumber thinking "Wow, I'm sure I really scared those bastards! I'm sure they'll think twice before disagreeing with ME again!" He'll feel only a slight twinge of hollow emptiness the next day when he sees his uncle, who rather than working for the CIA, is actually the assistant janitor at the local McDonald's.
A few people who seem to fit the stereotype quite well of being absolute assholes on the Internet and then threatening to sue or call the FBI, CIA, and KGB when anyone who calls them on it:
Bernard Shifman
Robert Novak
Scott Lockwood
Were these three people long-lost triplets, seperated at birth? Why do they behave in exactly the same way? Do they share a common mental disease? Or are they all actually the same person? We may never know.
As quite possibly the only member of the old-school Slashdot trolls to ever actually attempt a serious and meaningful conversation with Mr. Lockwood (it worked, briefly), I feel compelled to comment on this.
That Geekizoid is an inanity is beyond dispute. That it is what it is almost entirely because of Mr. Lockwood is also beyond dispute. That Mr. Lockwood has, furthermore, contributed substantially to the deterioration of every site to which he has ever posted, save only those which were beyond redemption before he ever saw them (a category which arguably includes Slashdot), I will not dispute. That all of this, along with the other charges leveled against him, proves that Mr. Lockwood sucks, I will not dispute.
The real question behind all this, though, is not whether Mr. Lockwood sucks, but why Mr. Lockwood sucks. One might say that it does not matter, noting, by analogy, that one does not psychoanalyze a rabid dog, but instead simply puts it out of its misery. But it does matter, for in his own odd and frightening way, Scott Lockwood is Everyman. If you do not understand him, you do not understand anyone, probably including yourself.
Everyone, seemingly, detests Mr. Lockwood. Given that he had been married four times before he turned 30, this "everyone" may well include three ex-wives (last I heard, we're still waiting for his inevitable fourth divorce). From various anecdotes he has let drop over the years, there are a variety of real-life acquaintances, co-workers, and blood relatives in this category as well. So clearly, this is not just an online phenomenon; Mr. Lockwood is not a caring, sensitive man who lets off steam late at night by flaming people on weblogs. He is like this all the time. It is not a pose. It is the real Scott Lockwood, at 200 proof.
Mr. Lockwood himself is not unaware of this. He knows (and wishes it were not so) that dislike follows him around like the odor of alcohol trails after a drunk. But he has no idea why this is so. He knows it has to do with his abrasive and temperamental demeanor; he knows that his argumentative and self-righteous comments, and his complaints of being mistreated, win him no friends. But the connection between the cause and the effect, and the difference between his conduct and most other people's, escapes him. He has given up hope of understanding or improving the situation; he expects that it will continue, without change, for the rest of his life.
Mr. Lockwood does not understand that all of these things are symptomatic of a malaise that underlies his entire life. It is a condition that he was very nearly born with, and one which victimizes nearly all people to some degree. Most of us are not nearly as bad off as Mr. Lockwood; but there are some that have much more severe cases than him. Many rapists, murderers, and other violent criminals fall into that latter category. But even those of us who merely think ourselves better or smarter than everyone else, or who consider ourselves fit to decide what is right for everyone else, or who mock others for what they believe, are victims of this condition to some degree. I include myself in this; I do not claim (yet) to be speaking from a perspective completely outside the state of disease.
Mr. Lockwood's problem, to put it simply, is that he perceives the universe to be antagonistic to him. He has divided the universe into Self and Other, and decided that these two are eternal antagonists. Everything is his enemy; every action that anyone takes (other than to praise him), he perceives as some sort of attack, and he retaliates accordingly. He is convinced, although probably only subconsciously, that his life is a war in which he stands alone against all the forces of the universe. It is, in essence, the ultimate in paranoia.
As I wrote above, nearly everyone shares this condition to some extent. Many serial killers operate on the principle that, life being a never-ending battle that they will ultimately lose, they should take as many of the "enemy" with them as they can before they fall. But even ordinary people mostly act on analogous principles. Many people exploit the world around them in destructive or insensitive ways, or mistreat their fellow humans needlessly. This is all a consequence of defining the Other as an enemy; and this, in turn, is based on the fundamental error of dividing the universe into Self and Other.
What we all (Mr. Lockwood included) should strive for is an end to this division, which is really only a matter of mental habits, not an a priori property of existence. It derives from the infant's perception that part of what he perceives obeys his will and sends him sensory input (Self), and the rest does not (Other). The antagonism between these two hypothesized entities derives from the instinctive desire on the child's part to impose his will on everything; Other does not do what he wants, and is therefore the enemy. And so the infant makes the fundamental error that haunts him, in most cases, for the rest of his life.
This is what makes Mr. Lockwood tick. It is probably also what makes you tick. Think about that carefully before flaming him simply because his case is a bit worse than yours -- if indeed you are better off.
--mv
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[Captain_Tenille] beeeceeee
[bc] 'ello
[ubu] hello, bic
[ubu] how are things?
[bc] alright
[ubu] we had a ridiculously interesting evening last night.
[bc] I'm better today, I sought legal advice
[ubu] ah? how was that?
[bc] about, ubu?
[bc] it was fine
[Captain_Tenille] I had to take the gf to the emergency room last night.
[Captain_Tenille] [--- not much sleep
[bc] oh yes, I remember you saying that was due
[ubu] yeesh, what for, CT?
[Captain_Tenille] We thought her miscarriage was done yesterday morning.
[Captain_Tenille] Turns out, it wasn't.
[Captain_Tenille] She went downhill all evening, then woke up around 1:15 with excrutiating cramps.
* ubu moans.
[ubu] i'm so sorry.
[Captain_Tenille] Like, screaming and writhing in pain bad.
[bc] shitey
[Captain_Tenille] Took her in, and waited for fucking ever.
[Captain_Tenille] I waited so long I thought they were doing a D&C and hadn't told me. Turned out she had to wait around too. She got vicodin, at least.
[cyndrekit] sucky CT
[cyndrekit] I had a really good friend misscarry
[cyndrekit] it went on for several days
[Captain_Tenille] It's been going on since Tuesday or Wednesdayish, I think.
[Captain_Tenille] We found out something might have been amiss only last Wednesday (the 6th).
[ubu] i am so sorry.
[bc] coo, & I always thought it an unpleasant thing that last 30 minutes
* cyndrekit hugs Captain_Tenille
[cyndrekit] bc: na, the body has to clean everything out
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[Captain_Tenille] Um, bye ubu
[cyndrekit] so is everything fine now?
[bc] I think he found that distressing ct, for personal reasons, so quit without saying anything
[Captain_Tenille] She's home sleeping.
[Captain_Tenille] Oh.
[cyndrekit] ya, it takes a toll
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[cyndrekit] make her eat - esspecially veggies with iron
[cyndrekit] like spinach
[cyndrekit] well, when she wakes up
[ubu] i just learned that the House Un-American Activities Committee was originally founded by a Democratic Senator, Samuel Dickstein, to ferret out Ku Klux Klansmen, "fascists", and other right-wing groups.
[ubu] it was called the Dickstein Committee for years, and Communists and liberals alike were very happy with it.
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[ubu] only after Martin Dies of Texas became its chairman did it turn its attentions to Communists in the government, at which point the Communists protested loudly that they were being persecuted, and their civil liberties violated.
[elby] i am looking for therapy please.
[bc] hey elby!
[bc] what may I help you with
[bc] state your case and insert $5 into machine
[bc] this is the automated psycholigist
[elby] Well, sometimes I cry when I masturbate
* elby inserts $5.
[bc] How do you feel when you cry when you masturbate?
[elby] I feel sad.
[bc] How do you feel when you feel sad?
[elby]
[elby] You are a crappy psychologists, i want my $5 back!
[cyndrekit] Hey elby!
[bc] Tell me about your mother
[elby] She has very soft hands.
[elby] hi cyn
[ubu] bc, county tells me i'm awkward.
[ubu] i don't think that's fair.
[bc] you are awkward. You never let anyone relax
[ubu] really?
[ubu] how's that?
[ubu] are you calling me high-maintenance?
[elby] I went to an odd funeral yesterday
[bc] Well, people are happily throwing around assumptions and having light hearted fun, and then you arrive with your demands for proof and urgent questioning
[bc] why odd?
[elby] Sort of a distant relative, never really knew the guy
[elby] but he lived in some backwoods town
[elby] at about 73 he passed
[elby] and he owned a topless bar
[bc] cool
[elby] There were a hell of a lot of interesting stories told about him.
[bc] so were all his stripper employees there?
[elby] Would have been interesting to know him more.
[bc] dresed in black?
[elby] No but there were bikers
[elby] I think one ex-stripper was there
[bc] heh
[ubu] demands for proof?
[ubu] what in God's name do you mean by that?
[bc] pity you never got in with him while he was alive, or paid any interest in your own flesh and blood. You could be the owner of a strip joint by now
[bc] ubu: see? You are doing it right now.
[ubu] i demand proof.
[bc] "[ubu] what in God's name do you mean by that?" [-that.
[ubu] hahaha!
[ubu] oh yeah, that. i guess that's awkward.
[bc] haha
[cyndrekit] wow, that was a trap he woulden't have been able to avoid
[cyndrekit] good one bc
[ubu] he really did get me, there.
[bc] heh
[elby] not really my own flesh and blood bc
[elby] not really directly related to me
[bc] well, if that salves your guilt, that's fine.
[elby] It's my half brothers father's stepfather.
[ubu] stingray softly sleeps
[ubu] my probing will not wake him
[bc] I keep my half brother's father's stepfather very close, and so should you have.
[ubu] sweet dreams, little one.
[elby] haha
[elby] Took you long enough.
[ubu] i poke, poke his face
[ubu] and yet he still ignores me
[elby] But BC, they lived in.... *shudder* oregon
[ubu] poke... poke... poke... poke... poke
[bc] well elby, such a misfortune should have motivaed you to help them however you could.
[cyndrekit] oy! down ubu!
[cyndrekit] your being abnormaly odd
[bc] pokey poke
[bc] A clip from the nine equals six to the grave, A to the muthafuckin' K, homeboy!
[elby] bc is a hard motherfucker.
[ubu] korean!
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[Captain_Tenille] Interesting: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
[bc] coo
[bc] he got everyone
[bc] except jsm
[bc] and he knows all the names, even obscure ones
[bc] which means it must be somebody on teh inside
[elby] boring.
[bc] the only one he didn't get was warren mann
[elby] haha
[elby] Oh, I'm sure craigs and warrens copies of the mailing list info has been spread all over.
[bc] heh
[elby] big deal, all we ever talked about were our silly slashdot conspiracies and some people used their real names in their email addresses.
[elby] I'm flattered people still care though
[bc] heh
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[bc] hmm
[elby] ok see you guys around, logging
[bc] bye elby
[elby] i check my io email more often than my aq mail if anyone needs to get in touch with me
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[Captain_Tenille] zuul, what's the word?
[zuul] Thunderbird!
[Captain_Tenille] zuul, what's the price?
[zuul] Forty twice!
[em] hey bc
[em] did you know that hospitals in the UK are underprepared for a nuke attack?
* em reads the news.
[em] "Congress on Friday passed legislation that would make it a crime to insert illicit or pornographic material into packaged food products."
[bc] underprepared eh? hmph
[em] http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/11/15/product
[em] lol
[em] so I can stick pr0n inside food packages, it's legal
[em] well, until sometime next week
[Captain_Tenille] Better hurry
[me0w] I am hungry
[bc] me too
[bc] 'cept I just can't be bothered cooking
[me0w] bc, I would make you lunch
[bc] I haven't had anything to eat all day, and I got up at 6 and have been busy as hell
[me0w] Although, I guess it is dinner time over there.
[bc] me0w, luncheon would be perfect anyway. I don't feel like anything overheavy
[me0w] I made a yummy salad dressing the other day.
[bc] huh, is putting pornography inside food products a big problem in USia?
[bc] mm. I like salad, except for the lettuce part
[cyndrekit] i never heared of it
[bc] which I don't like much at all
[bc] especially if it is red
[bc] red lettuce is bogging
[me0w] I like romaine lettuce
[me0w] which is green
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[bc] covered in salt
[em] the motivation for the law seems not to have been pr0n, but a KKK pamphlet found by a 10-year old
[bc] eh
[bc] that's insane
[bc] people should be allowed to put whatever the like in food
[bc] bloody fascists!
* em discovers that Belarus is a nasty place
[Captain_Tenille] You *just* figured that out?
[bc] em lives in the groves of academe, ct, not in "the real world"
[bc] his horizons extend no farther than a copy of the Times Literary Supplement while a hot graduate student felates him
[bc] no wonder (incredible!) he didn't know about Belarus! Would you?
[Captain_Tenille] I know about Belarus. Have for years.
[Captain_Tenille] Of course, I've always been a history nut.
[bc] http://www.opendemocracy.net/themes/article.jsp?i
[bc] fun
[bc] I've never heard the House of Commons described as "dignified" though
[bc] it's very clearly anything but
[em] it's british. anything with that ridiculou accent sounds dignified out here.
[bc] what ridiculous accent?
[Captain_Tenille] Any of your ridiculous accents.
[cyndrekit] hehe
[bc] s'the mother tongue!
[Captain_Tenille] Remember, the English spoken in the Pacific Northwest is the least accented English in the world.
[Captain_Tenille] You need to learn to talk like me.
[bc] er, you mean the most accented
[Captain_Tenille] No, least.
[bc] furthest away from what I speak = most accented
[Captain_Tenille] Us, and St. Louis.
* bc is accentless
[Captain_Tenille] From what I understand.
[Captain_Tenille] em, care to comment?
[em] heh, i feel sorry for australians and new zealanders.
[em] they get confused for all sorts of things in USia
[bc] ct, it is all relative. Posh english people have the conceit that they have no accent. So, it now appears, do people in the pacific northwest
[em] so I was talking with this australian friend the other day. She told me that one of our first-year students called her by the nickname of somebody else-- an understandable error.
[Captain_Tenille] They train newscasters how to talk here, for Christ's sake!
[em] and
[bc] it seems hard to me to see how any accent can be stronger than another, they are all equivalent
[bc] just different
[em] she was telling him, "Oh, don't worry. The receptionist always confuses me an Melanie [this other student, from New Zealand]"
[em] so the kid goes: "Oh, that's because you're both British!"
[bc] heh
[em] OTOH this new kid in our department is an idiot.
[bc] if I moved to america, I wouldn't be understood at all. it'd quickly get on my tits, i suspect
[em] quite liable to open his mouth while keeping his ears closed.
[em] bc: maybe not
[bc] "ah sed ah wont a cuppa COFFEE!"
[em] I always assumed scottish people would be completely uncomprehensible.
[bc] em, my father lived there once, he had problems
[em] when I actually met some, I found them easier than a lot of brits.
[bc] also, the scottish people you met were doubtless posh
[bc] why else would they be going to parties in Stanford?
[em] dunno there.
[bc] working class accents in glasgow can be incomprehensible to *me*
[bc] and that's their norm
[bc] just today:
[bc] guy I was talking to said "On the second floor."
[bc] which I interpreted as "On the first of february."
[bc] dunno how I managed that. "on" is "oan", "second" becomes "secant", it ends with a t sound, and "floor" in glaswegian is like "flare"
[bc] and I'm not from glasgow! so it takes getting used to
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[Sulla] One young man sat on a concrete block spouting antiglobalization slogans while warming himself with a hot Whopper. This was funny, but also a little depressing. The Left, I thought, is in trouble.
[Sulla] ^^hehe
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[cyndrekit] where is that from?
[bc] http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/314/focus/Criti
[cyndrekit] thought so
[cyndrekit] sounded almost to clever to be you.
[bc] heh
[bc] you mean "not clever enough"
[cyndrekit] hehe
[cyndrekit] yea... thats it...
[cyndrekit]
[bc] good
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[bc] em
[bc] you should bring back aqbot
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[bc] hey vaginux
[momocrome] ok, let's try it out
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[bc] looking sharp in your new suit!
[vaginux] lessee if I get some crap
[bc] hehe, going to join #k5?
[vaginux] already in #k5, #everything, #slashdot
[bc] coo, that's lots of channels
[bc] I bet you like all of them better than us
[vaginux] not at all. I want to hurt those other channels
[bc] hehe!
[vaginux] i want to make them pay for my years of suffering
[bc] I think I will drop into #k5, haven't been in there in yonks
[vaginux] I always get picked on by geeks
[bc] but I need a new nick, I don't want the usual attacks I get
[bc] haha!
[bc] yes, they are bad those geeks, with their love of sport and bullying ways
[vaginux] hmm. do you want it to be mundane or a touch more controversial?
[bc] I'm trying to think of what the name of that 52yo woman tombuck laid is
[vaginux] speaking of whuch, who did the KKK story that's in the k5 queue?
[bc] tuppy something
[bc] dunno, vaginux, it was funny though
[cyndrekit] how about just candice?
[bc] hmm
[cyndrekit] or do you want someone established?
[bc] I'll try to find it
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[tuppy_owens] candice, cyndrekit?
[cyndrekit] I thought you were just lookin for any female name
[cyndrekit] so i thought i would throw that one out
[tuppy_owens] heh
[me0w] hehehehehehhe
[tuppy_owens] hehe
MAUREEN: I think we need an agent!
MARK: We?
JOANNE: That's selling out.
MARK: But it's nice to dream.
MAUREEN: It's network TV, and it's all thanks to me.
MARK: Somehow I think I smell the whiff of a scheme.
JOANNE: Me too!
MAUREEN: We can plan another protest.
JOANNE: We?!
MAUREEN: This time you can shoot from the start, you'll direct, starring me!
ALL: 5, 4, 3... Open sesame!! Happy new year, Happy new year Happy new...
BENNY: I see that you've beaten me to the punch.
ROGER: How did you know we'd be here?
BENNY: I had a hunch.
MARK: You're not mad?
BENNY: I'm here to end this war. It's a shame you went and destroyed the door
MIMI: Why all the sudden the big about face?
BENNY: The credit is yours; you made a good case.
ROGER: What case?
BENNY: Mimi came to see me and she had much to say.
MIMI: That's not how you put it at all yesterday!
BENNY: I couldn't stop thinking about the whole mess. Mark -- you want to get this on film!
MARK: I guess.
BENNY: I regret the unlucky circumstances of the past seven days.
ROGER: Circumstance? You padlocked our door!
BENNY: And it's with great pleasure on behalf of CyberArts that I hand you this key.
ANGEL: Golf claps.
MARK: I have no juice in my battery!
BENNY: Reshoot!
ROGER: I see -- this is a photo opportunity!
MAUREEN: The benevolent god ushers the poor artists back to their flat. Were you planning on taking down the barbed wire from the lot, too?
ROGER: Anything but that!
BENNY: Clearing the lot was a safety concern; we break ground this month but you can return.
MAUREEN: That's why you're here with people you hate, instead of with Muffy at Muffy's estate
BENNY: I'd honestly rather be with you tonight than in Westport --
ROGER: Spare us old sport, the soundbite.
BENNY: Mimi -- since your ways are so seductive,
MIMI: You came on to me!
BENNY: Persuade him not to be so counterproductive.
ROGER: Liar!
BENNY: Why not tell them what you wore to my place?
MIMI: I was on my way to work!
BENNY: Black leather and lace! My desk was a mess; I think I'm still sore!
MIMI: Cause I kicked him and told him I wasn't his whore!
BENNY: Does your boyfriend know who your last boyfriend was?
ROGER: I'm not her boyfriend; I don't care what she does!
ANGEL: People! Is this any way to start a new year? Have compassion, Benny just lost his cat!
BENNY: My dog -- but I appreciate that.
ANGEL: My cat had a fall and I went through hell.
BENNY: It's like losing a -- how did you know that she fell?
COLLINS: Champagne?
BENNY: Don't mind if I do! To dogs!
ALL: No, Benny -- To you!
ANGEL: Let's make a resolution
MIMI: I'll drink to that.
COLLINS: Let's always stay friends.
JOANNE: Though we may have our disputes,
MAUREEN: This family tree's got deep roots;
MARK: Friendship is thicker than blood.
ROGER: That depends.
MIMI: Depends on trust,
ROGER: Depends on true devotion,
JOANNE: Depends on love,
MARK: Depends on not denying emotion!
ROGER: Perhaps...
ALL: It's gonna be a happy new year.
ROGER: I guess...
ALL: It's gonna be a happy new year.
ROGER: You're right!
ANGEL: It's gonna be a happy new year!
ROGER AND MIMI: I'm sorry.
ROGER: Coming?
MIMI: In a minute -- I'm fine -- go.
THE MAN: Well, well, well. What have we here? It's gonna be a happy new year...
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Alyssa Milano
Date sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:20:14 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0020)
She was that kid from Who's the Boss (and a Schwarzenegger flic), right?
Damn, she's aged gracefully. So how'd she get stuck doing 1800COLLECT ads
with Arsenio Hall, while Leonardo Dicaprio moved past Growing Pains and
into great roles like Total Eclipse? It's states like Ohio that do it, I
tell ya. Our nation is without taste.
Marc Stauffer <marc@ksac.com> wrote:
>THe Alyssa Milano E! true holywood story just started for anyone
>interested in her pouting breasts. 7:30 Eastern Standard. rev
(This is CP0020)
From: Ceee Peee
:)
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Vlad needs to be terminated
Date sent: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:32:20 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0012)
Did you guys get to it before vlad deleted the img tag to hello.jpg? Apparently authors are given free reign to put all sorts of html in their stories.
I wouldn't worry too much about vlad fucking things up. Our own slash site would be ideal, of course, but short of that, I'm in favor of using a site where we have registered authors who can clean up the crap and play with the settings. Today, I gave myself god mode (such wonderfully secure stuff, slashcode is) and created author "gbd" for the purpose of posting gbd's communism article (vlad'll shit a brick, I'm sure) before deleting the author to clean up -- it's not out of the question to create other authors for the rest of you guys, though the polite thing would be to run it by vlad first. I also got ahold of vlad's slashdot password, though I don't plan to do anything with it (he already metamodded). He's not the brightest in the bunch, but he's tame, and I'm not sure he's figured out the db enough to track us down.
I'm still working out the details so don't quote me, but a potentially workable scenario by my metric is: we each get author status, we post a hidden section article on geekizoid as no-comments (like zengan did with the iraq article way back when), and since we're all authors, we can override the "no comments" aspect and post away. Someone might still be able to find t, but at least the signal/noise level won't be any orse than we ourselves make it.
--- jlb wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, John Montoya wrote:
> > And actually, his "Alan Greenspan" story was quite
> > funny.
>
> Just found out, that was by cp, fyi.
>
> You didn't think vlad came up with it, did you?
>
> --
> "Is this real?"
> "Does it matter?"
>
(This is CP0012)
[dmg] "http://www.jang-group.com/thenews/sep2002-weekly/ iqra-20-09-2002/#3" ;but i drunk.2 572m enu=news.quirkiesm enu=news.weirdworld.sexlifem enu=news.weirdworld.sexlife5 437m enu=news.weirdworld.sexlife :( :-) :(m enu=news.weirdworld.badtaste :\
[dmg] "The Holy Prophet (Sall Allaho alaihe wasallam) used to joke, but he never said anything but the truth in his jokes. "
[dmg] "trolling with the truth" is a halal Islamic technique....
[dmg] there we have it.
[dmg] Trolling is sanctioned by Allah (swt(
[momocrome] wonderful
[bc] haha-haaa
[bc] that irc log is hilarious
[dmg] that takest the biscuit
[bc] [bc] vlad... i'2 type 'mo
[dmg] I laughed
[momocrome] post the text to 20721
[momocrome] stir the pot a bit
[momocrome] I am going to rise to their baiting
[momocrome] even thoughI haven't been singled out
[bc] haha
[bc] I must read more now
[dmg] "In "al-Adab al-Mufrad", Bukhari reports from Bakr bin Abdullah, who said: "The Companions of the Holy Prophet (Sall Allaho alaihe wasallam) used to throw melon-rinds at one another, but when the matter was serious, they were the only true men."
[dmg]
[dmg] "
[dmg] So its OK to throw melon rinds at people ?
[momocrome] it is comical, in fact
[dmg] The more I read about Islam, the less it makes sense.
[dmg] that sounds like slapstick humor.
[dmg] do you think custard pies would be ok ?
[momocrome] God Willing, I will get you with this melon rind!
[dmg] are there any hadith on this ?
[momocrome] No you shall not, God Willing!
[dmg] LOL
[momocrome] I like the way they can become the only true men at a moment's notice
[bc] it's amazing how they STILL go on about perdida
[dmg] http://www.world-sex-records.com/sex-076.htm "The Hardy Cocks of Upper Egypt"
[shoeboy] I need to go home
*** dmg is now known as abu_zeqqzeqq
[shoeboy] but I haven't put in 8 hours
[abu_zeqqzeqq] "In the Kinsey survey of more than 5000 men, three or four were found who could ejaculate by deliberately concentrating on sexual fantasies, without any genital manipulation - "In such a case the psychic stimulation is entirely responsible for the result." Two or three males in a thousand are able to suck their own penises to achieve orgasm and ejaculation. "
*** cyndrekit is now known as cyn-away
[abu_zeqqzeqq] http://www.world-sex-records.com/sex-054.htm
[bc] Contemplating suicide everyday, Barry someday hopes to either grow the testicles to off himself or to fall in love with some fat-ankled trash-eating Scottish sow. I don't see a difference between the two fates, but anything is better than not being to tell a dirty joke.
[bc] hahaha
[bc] oh god
[bc] trollaxor is great
[abu_zeqqzeqq] "Masturbation is said to be so widespread among both married and unmarried Muslim females throughout Africa and the East that "it is commonly regarded by the menfolk as customary and matter-of-fact" (A. Edwards & R. E. L. Masters, "The Cradle of Erotica"). "Rubbing" or "pounding" is considered a natural manifestation of feminine nature - for "women's passion is ten times greater than man's." In this spirit it has been suggested
[abu_zeqqzeqq] http://www.world-sex-records.com/sex-040.htm
[bc] hehe
[abu_zeqqzeqq] I feel abused and left out.
[abu_zeqqzeqq] nobody cares enough to parody me.
[bc] wow, and actual troll on listed on trolltalk, only after I've read 200 posts
[bc] 200 posts bashing perdida, adequacy, and everyone in here (but dmg)
[bc] dmg: I never used to get bashed, then I banned trollaxor from here and put him on ignore
[momocrome] I get no love neither
[bc] so that's what's prolly sparked off the names and shite
[abu_zeqqzeqq] I actually like trollaxor's stuff.
[abu_zeqqzeqq] especially the LGC
[abu_zeqqzeqq] momocrome: its just not fair.
[bc] SIR!!! (Score:0)
[bc] by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 13, @11:12AM (#4660016)
[bc] I apologize for revealing your personal information. I try very hard, I truly do, but sometimes my overzealous urges take the better of me. Jesus will not be pleased. I have much contemplating to do regarding Christ and sitting in front of Slashdot all day being a prick.
[bc] SIR, I AM SARRY!!!
[bc] Have a nice day,
[bc] Craig McPherson
[bc] LOL
[abu_zeqqzeqq] tee hee
* bc decides to post a comment
[abu_zeqqzeqq] Did you see my repsonse ?
[abu_zeqqzeqq] about the 10" cocks ?
[bc] I guessed that was you! it was fun
[abu_zeqqzeqq] We need to post a load of ludicrous links to people with the same names.
* bc writes post designed to provoke craig
[bc] Is this a good idea? prolly not, but I don't care
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[abu_zeqqzeqq] hey First Incision
[First_Incision] hello
[First_Incision] who be ye?
[abu_zeqqzeqq] i am dmg
[First_Incision] ok
[abu_zeqqzeqq] abu zeqqzeqq is an Islamic name
[abu_zeqqzeqq] meaning "the father of thrusters"
[First_Incision] haha
[bc] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
[bc] hehe
[bc] god I suck
[bc] hey FI
[First_Incision] I will not discout the possibility that you suck.
[bc] A wise move FI
[abu_zeqqzeqq] bc: if craig is as fucked up as he seemse
[abu_zeqqzeqq] that will push him to new extremes...
[bc] hehee
[bc] I like the idea of adding together his fetish for stone women, and his religomania
[momocrome] heh
[First_Incision] I never understood the stone women thing. Is osm still perving around somewhere?
[momocrome] http://www.clusterlizard.org
[momocrome] osm's site ^^
[bc] yes, though who knows what he's up to
[abu_zeqqzeqq] bc: change your nick to "Abu'l Hayjeh "
[momocrome] he has a bunch of uninspired match.com pseudo-trolls
[momocrome] picking on hapless, lonely women
[First_Incision] clusterlizard, that sounds familiar for some reason. Is that from that "lexx show"?
[momocrome] yes
[momocrome] he has a thing for the first female lead
[abu_zeqqzeqq] http://www.world-sex-records.com/sex-105.htm
[momocrome] it is one of the sections
[abu_zeqqzeqq] Abu'l Hayjeh who deflowered eighty virgins in a single night,
[shoeboy] I shouldn't follow your links, bc
[shoeboy] Click the really excited choir boy!
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[bc] hehe shoeboy
[county] hey folks
[abu_zeqqzeqq] hey county
*** bc is now known as Abu
*** Abu is now known as Abul_Hayjeh
*** Abul_Hayjeh is now known as Abu`l_Hayjeh
[Abu`l_Hayjeh] that works
[Abu`l_Hayjeh] hi county!
[county] fuckin muslim
[Abu`l_Hayjeh] ]:(
[county] what
[Abu`l_Hayjeh] I did deflower 80 virgins in a single night, county
[Abu`l_Hayjeh] I am due some respect
[abu_zeqqzeqq] fuck off, infidel
[abu_zeqqzeqq] I am the "father of thrusters"
[county] i bet
[abu_zeqqzeqq] #adequacy is teh Islamic IRC channel
[abu_zeqqzeqq] no INFIDELS ALLOWED
[abu_zeqqzeqq] pick an islamic name, or piss off.
[county] well its luky that im a muslim tehn
*** shoeboy is now known as Mohammed_Iqbal
[county] then
[Mohammed_Iqbal] I went to middle school with a Mohammed Iqbal
[Mohammed_Iqbal] don't think he set any sex records
[Mohammed_Iqbal] but then again, I didn't ask
[Abu`l_Hayjeh] hehe
*** Abu`l_Hayjeh is now known as badmash
[abu_zeqqzeqq] Mohammed Iqbal is one of the best URDU poets
*** First_Incision is now known as Abdullah
[abu_zeqqzeqq] but it probably wasn't the same guy you were at school with.
*** Abdullah is now known as Abdullah_Camel
*** county is now known as ivan
*** Abdullah_Camel is now known as First_Incision
[abu_zeqqzeqq] Al-Quaida, Infidels, Zionist, Dirty Bomb, Great Satan etc etc etc
[abu_zeqqzeqq] Did you know that Saddam Hussain's favorite sweets are "quality street" ?
[ivan] i wouldve marked him as an m&m man
[abu_zeqqzeqq] http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_672471.html?
[abu_zeqqzeqq] there you go.
[abu_zeqqzeqq] !Tariq Aziz puts HP Sauce on every dinner!
[ivan] are muslims allowed to have sex?
[abu_zeqqzeqq] "After returning from a meeting with Saddam last month Labour MP George Galloway revealed the dictator offered him Quality Street chocolates and spoke of his admiration for British buses."
[abu_zeqqzeqq] Saddam has obviously never been on a British bus in his life...
[abu_zeqqzeqq] http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_709336.html?
[abu_zeqqzeqq] "Oral sex is not adultery"
[ivan] ive noticed that here in seatlte an awful lot of carsw ant to get hit by a bus
[ivan] theyre utterly stupid around them
[abu_zeqqzeqq] http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_700505.html?
[abu_zeqqzeqq] "
[abu_zeqqzeqq] Some male lawmakers are demanding rights to sex be guaranteed in the domestic violence legislation.
[abu_zeqqzeqq] "
[abu_zeqqzeqq] The Minister claimed that some people turned into gays and lesbians because they did not get enough heterosexual sex.
[abu_zeqqzeqq] "It is all because of sexual denial. As a biology teacher, I know how the body functions," he added
*** cyn-away is now known as cyndrekit
[ivan] That's brilliant. Men beat their wives because they refuse sex, so make giving sex required by law!
[badmash] genius indeed
[ivan] What about those of us who can't manage to get married?
[ivan] Aren't we entitled to sex?
[ivan] I should hope so.
[abu_zeqqzeqq] that would be sinful
[abu_zeqqzeqq] and against Allah (SWT)
[ivan] Well, in an abstract sense I would hope so.
[abu_zeqqzeqq] The penalty is stoning to death.
[ivan] I'm terribly afraid of sex, so I don't think it would matter if I were legally entitled to it.
[abu_zeqqzeqq] I suggest you substitute your sexual urges with the urge to pray...
[abu_zeqqzeqq] until you are married.
[ivan] Substitute the urges... How obvious!
*** badmash is now known as bc
[ivan] "Man, do I ever want some sex." "No. You want to pray instead." "Oh, OK."
[ivan] I think one of the secrets of Islam's success must be its keen grasp of psychology.
[abu_zeqqzeqq] Islam rules.
[ivan] No, kidding. Go Islam!
[ivan] woohoo
[abu_zeqqzeqq] you can deny it all you like, but it is the only religion truly in touch with human nature
[bc] county: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
[ivan] Ignore the superfluous comma.
[bc] does that seem accurate to you?
[ivan] All of them =)
[ivan] thx
*** First_Incision is now known as fi-away
[ivan] I can't say, bc. I didn't read it.
[ivan] Should I?
[bc] Yes, you should
[ivan] Haha!
[abu_zeqqzeqq] http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_686841.html?
[ivan] It almost looks real.
[ivan] The one problem is that shoeboy is LOLing too much and Vladinator isn't doing it enough.
[bc] I'm kind of insulted. It represents me as a pathetic drunk with delusional fantasies that I'm liked by females, and that seems entirely untrue
[abu_zeqqzeqq] gratuituous kylie pictures. Proof Allah(SWT) and Mohammed (PBUH) are REAL
[ivan] It does seem entirely untrue that you're liked by females.
[abu_zeqqzeqq] bc at least you are worthy of parody
[bc] hehe
[abu_zeqqzeqq] some of us are become stalinesque non-persons.
[abu_zeqqzeqq] airbrushed out of trolling history
[ivan] abu and I didn't even get noticed
[bc] craig&osm&trollaxor prolly still like you, dmg
[ivan] "Where's the part where Barry Corrington slags on Jin Wicked for half an hour then kisses her ass when she logs in?
[ivan] "
[ivan] Has Jin ever been in here?
[bc] not afaik
*** abu_zeqqzeqq is now known as Abu_Zeqqzeqq
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] bc: don't lie
[bc] ?
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] "she" is here right now
[cyndrekit] oh my god this is hallarious
[bc] is she?!?
[ivan] Abu is Jin Wicked!
[ivan] I knew it.
[ivan] I always told you guys, but you wouldn't listen.
[bc] Abu has a UKian IP address
[bc] has Jin moved to UKia?
[ivan] Yeah, for better or worse, Jin is a real person.
[ivan] And she's not here.
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] Jin is BC
[bc] I didn't see you there Jin. I just wanted you to know, I love your site
[ivan] She is one of those girls you've attracted, though, bc.
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] everyone knows that
[ivan] Everyone is wrong.
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] jin, stop playing around and attention seeking.
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] you are fooling noone
[ivan] Right, everyone is fooling themself.
[bc]
[ivan] bc isn't Jin.
[ivan] bc isn't luisa, either.
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] yeah, like I am going to believe a troll on #adequacy
[ivan] It's easy to spot bc's real alternate identities, because they're all exactly the same.
[ivan] UE talked exactly like LAT, who talked exactly like KTB, who talked exactly like HW.
[ivan] HW, with a Scottish accent!
[ivan] Well, that was quite the sight.
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_691682.html?
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] The apartment where suicide pilot Mohammad Atta lived and plotted the September 11 attacks is to be turned into an "art happening
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] what about Paget-Paget ?
[ivan] Forgot about that one.
[bc] they were all subtly different
[bc] I can't help it if you have no reading skills
[ivan] HW constantly saying "realise" was the best.
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[bc] eh?
[ivan] Howdy, Lumpen.
[Lumpen] Hasn't the joke gone on long enough?
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] what joke ?
[ivan] Likely. Which joke, though?
[bc] what joke?
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] *BSD is dying ?
[Lumpen] The blank page
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] what blank page ?
*** cyndrekit is now known as cyn-away
[Lumpen] http://www.adequacy.org
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] thats not blank
[Lumpen] Looks blank to me.
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] it is actually RGB value #D7D7D7
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] which is patented by adequacy.org
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] and if you wait long enough
[Lumpen] Yeah, yeah.
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] you will see some content
[bc] no dmg, it is more
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] I assure you
[Lumpen] So how long do I have to wait?
[bc] the grey colour varies between values #D6D6D6 and #D8D8D8
[bc] encoding a binary string of information
[ivan] Nerd talk alert.
[Lumpen] I think two months is long enough pretending you're gone.
[bc] that holds the entire adequacy site, accessible to the chosen few
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] who is pretending ?
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] keeping a quality site like adequacy going was never easy
[Lumpen] Ha, ha, ha.
[Lumpen] Very funny.
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] adequacy is dead. Fact.
[ivan] Well, unfortunately, Lumpen, the Adequacy editors were so damn lazy that even between the forty or fifty of them, they couldn't produce one article a week.
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] dead as BSD
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] ivan: I no longer work for free.
[ivan] Yeah, but do you work it for free?
[Abu_Zeqqzeqq] what ? speak English.
[momocrome] Towards More Powerful Porn: Psychology, CGI and Gradients of Stimulation
[momocrome] sound like a compelling article?
[momocrome] great!
[Lumpen] So Adequacy is just an irc channel now?
[ivan] Is it completed?
[momocrome] no
[momocrome] I just thought of it
[ivan] This channel shouldn't even be called #adequacy, really.
[momocrome] maybe I can use the QPT Editorial Service
[ivan] Mostly it's just bitching at, about, and by women.
[Lumpen] Because it isn't?
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[First_Incision] I think adequacy is a great name for this channel
[First_Incision] Since it is now mostly about people contemplating their (in)adequacies
[ivan] Yeah, "people."
[ivan] Why don't you just say "ivan." We all knew what you meant, anyway.
$ host ebayupdates.com
Host ebayupdates.com not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
I get the whois record just fine, though.
From: "80md"
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Evil enemies of Liberty
Date sent: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:36:06 EST
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0035)
>From: "Craig McPherson" <craig@laceyonline.com>
>
>I've heard that outside the United States, those are the only five sports
> that exist (Soccer, Polo, Spooning, Curling, and Snuckers), and I don't
>even know what the HECK four of them are.
Well, it's easy to understand why they do these things: They're undernourished, because they don't have much food out there in all the poor countries. So the average foreigner is about four foot six, maybe five feet tops, and they weigh about eighty pounds. Their teeth tend to fall out, and their bones are brittle as hell because they don't have milk. That's because their "commissars" took all their cows away. So you see, these poor "Europeans" as they call themselves, and the "Canadians" and whatnot, all these people are frail weaklings. They have no knowledge of freedom either, because they don't have a Genesis Document guaranteeing their rights, and they're given to sodomy and other degenerate practices because they've never been exposed to Christianity. Christianity is banned in Europe, did you know that? It's true. The Socialists always ban religion when they seize power. Of course, the Europeans were never free to begin with, so they don't know any better. They've always been slaves. It's all the same to them.
So their poor diet, their atheism, their slavehood, and their homosexuality have robbed them of their strength and their manhood. Therefore, they play girl games like Snuckers, Privet, and Gloon. While we eat our peas for the souls in Purgatory, they HAVE no peas. They limply push a ball around a field, with no manly, bone-crunching collisions to build their flaccid
characters. Where even our most girlish pseudomen play tennis, they teach badminton to their soldiers.
>Man, we need to get rid of those other countries. They want to abolish
>our sports and force us to play homosexual female sports like Polo and
>Spooning, whatever they are.
It's sad, but true. In fact, we'd only be putting them out of
their misery. They'd thank us if they understood.
--
80md
"Harry Browne seems to think he knows me personally --
I get a letter from him every week asking for money."
-- Craig
(This is CP0035)
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Alyssa Milano
Date sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:20:14 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0020)
She was that kid from Who's the Boss (and a Schwarzenegger flic), right?
Damn, she's aged gracefully. So how'd she get stuck doing 1800COLLECT ads
with Arsenio Hall, while Leonardo Dicaprio moved past Growing Pains and
into great roles like Total Eclipse? It's states like Ohio that do it, I
tell ya. Our nation is without taste.
Marc Stauffer <marc@ksac.com> wrote:
>THe Alyssa Milano E! true holywood story just started for anyone
>interested in her pouting breasts. 7:30 Eastern Standard. rev
(This is CP0020)
Yet another publicly sponsored Denial Of Service attack by slashdot.
krystal_blade
It will be easy to motivate our fellow man; there is hardly anything people treasure more than not being annihilated.
That latest one is too long to read... ...3 466
<wsl3> We need something new in there already...
<wsl3> Hey, I know...
<wsl3>
<county> Generally, yes, Sulla.
<wsl3> Much better.
<county> And when I do talk to women I'm attracted to, I'm just biting and cutting.
<wsl3> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
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;). If someone had created a 'KTB' character on k5 before I had, I would probably have been annoyed, but only because I may want to extend the character, insofar as I have developed it, onto k5 as well. The thing is, *I* am not really on the internet much at all. It seems that Siggy is, though, from what I can tell. He seems to be really into writing those torrid diaries, and exploring rather private parts of his personality in the most public of places - such as his sexuality, as 'Going For -100 Karma' publicised on /. If he really is exposing his true self to the k5 audience, this may be why he has become so defensive about the 'Bojay Iverson' thing - I would certainly be in a panic in his situation, if I thought the online world could reach into the real world and give me a kicking. I don't think I'll ever write diaries on k5, or if I do, they won't be about me, thats for sure. It freaks me out a little how easy it is to get information about someone on the internet, and the last thing I want want is an online diary, that will never expire, being accessible to all and sundry. I don't know, I just find the idea of posting your personal thoughts for all the world to see rather strange, if not a little ;)
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From: Barry Corrigan <barry@bjcorrigan.fsnet.co.uk>
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] talk about smoking crack...
Date sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 07:41:16 +0000
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
I find it interesting that it is possible to extend your ego to the internet to the degree that siggy seems to have done. I haven't used the
internet for very long (thats the UK for you), but I can certainly see how its possible to end up actually caring about some online persona.
Personally, I don't give a shit, but thats because I don't have an online persona that is actually me (does this post negate that? I'm not telling you
creepy. Perhaps its a Britain-America thing, I've heard that Americans are not shy, in fact sometimes I think they have never heard of the concept of embarrassment. So there you go
Sorry for this bollocks.
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, you wrote:
> Hi. I couldn't stay away, so I scrounged up some 'net
> access. Hi.
>
> I was talking with rusty indirectly about this, last
> night. He was asking me why I wanted k5 Anne Marie's
> nick -- that is, why I wanted to carry that "slashdot
> baggage" over with me to k5, the same way siggy did.
> It's funny, that way. I wanted k5 Anne Marie because
> it's a lovely character troll of mine. Siggy wanted
> "Signal 11" because it's the only way he's ever gotten
> a lot of (any) attention. He's afraid to be just
> Bojay Iverson, and it really comes across.
>
> --- Barry Corrigan
> wrote:
> >
> > Wow. I think I understand now why everyone seems to
> > dislike Signal 11 so much.
> > I mean, that has to be one of the most arrogant
> > things I've read, ohhh, all
> > week!
> > It was also extremely funny. Does he think he is an
> > internet celebrity or
> > something? In that post he came across as a jaded
> > Hollywood star.
> > Oh well, back to the horribleness of Java...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, you wrote:
> > >
> >
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2000/12/
> > >
> > > "Most of the best trolls on slashdot, I suspect,
> > were inspired by me. "
> > >
> > > i actually feel sorry for the guy. he needs some
> attention.
These are one of the oldest social engineering scams in existence...
They've been used on AOL subscribers (we are updated our database! Email your login/password to this address to ensure uninterrupted service), and even (legitimately) by sysadmins to check on the cluefulness of their own users... see how many ppl will Email you their login/passwords.
That mantle of authority/legitimacy is a powerful psychological tool... provides a lot of social control in some arenas. But I'm not saying it's always good... when people are trained/socialized to listen and not ask questions at all... well... you get victimized by stuff like this. Not to sound like a bumper sticker, but "question authority" is pretty good advice sometimes.
A little bit of cynicism and skepticism go a long way, particularly on the 'Net.
Even if a man chops off your hand with a sword, you still have two nice, sharp bones to stick in his eyes.
It's time to add Rusty Foster to "the list" of people who shouldn't be breathing.
Kuro5hin, "the democratic news site", has abandoned all pretenses of Democracy and has gone into full Fascist/Censorship mode.
These are the recent deeds of Kuro5hin.org:
1. Deleting numerous comments entirely, circumventing the site's established ratings procedure. Many of the comments deleted were highly rated at the time of deletion, indicating that THE PEOPLE wanted them to stay.
2. Disabling numerous user accounts. Many of these accounts were disabled before they even posted anything.
3. Enacting IP bans against several users, and adding additional IP bans as these persecuted people kept changing IPs to avoid censorship.
4. Deleting many diaries, including several that contained no abusive/offensive content, for no reason and with no warning or notice.
5. Keeping all this secret, because Rusty Foster knows he would be lynched by his readership if his Nazi-like practices were evar revealed.
Disabling dozens of accounts... deleting dozens of comments... banning dozens of IPs and several entire subnets... is this Democracy??
Rusty Foster is going to be second against the wall when the revolution comes, right behind his gay lovebuddy William Scott Lockwood III.
WSL throughout the ages!
William Scott Lockwood 1 - Born 1924 to unknown parents. Abandoned in a trash can in New Orleans by his opium-addicted prostitute mother just minutes after birth. Raised in a Catholic orphanage staffed by pedophile priests. Named himself "William Scott Lockwood 1", combining the names of his three favorite Priests/lovers at the orphanage. After puberty, the priests started to ignore him in favor of the younger boys, and he felt jealous and alienated. He ran away at age 14 and lived in the gayest part of the French Quarter, sucking cocks for spare change. At age 17, his first and only sexual encounter with a female (a woman on Bourbon Street during Mardi Gras who claimed she was actually a male Drag Queen) resulted in the conception of a child. The woman, Fannie Sassaman, quickly left town and gave birth to the child in secret, without telling WSL1 that they had conceived a son together. WSL1 died in 1949 when his herpes infection migrated to his brain.
William Scott Lockwood 2 - Born 1942 to Fannie Sassaman by WSL1. Originally named Ezekiel Sassaman and raised as a good Jewish boy. A botched circumcision by a drunken Mohil left him with an almost nonfunctional penis. From the ages of 3 to 8, he was forced by his mother to shovel coal on a railroad for a living. At age 8, he learned of the true identity of his father, converted to Catholicism, and went to New Orleans to search for his father. (Fannie Sassaman's story doesn't end there, but we'll save it for a later date.) Ezekiel Sassaman renamed himself William Scott Lockwood 2 after his father, who he found lying dead in a gutter when he reached New Orleans. He joined up with a railroad hobo gang, and spent the next two decades riding the rails and carrying out a string of brutal rapes and murders around the country. His damaged penis kept him from conceiving any children, but in 1969, God blessed him with a miracle: one of the women he raped conceived a child. He married her, and shortly thereafter, WSL3 was born. WSL2 quit the railroad gang after his son's birth and settled down with his victim/wife. He is still wanted by the FBI as one of the most notorious serial killers of this century. He is considered heavily armed, extremely dangerous, and morbidly obese. Let the FBI know if you have seen this man. They have offered a $1,000,000 reward for any information leading to his arrest, capture, or death. After a recent sighting at an Illinois hospital, he is once again at large.
William Scott Lockwood 3 - Born 1969 to a nondescript obese housewife by WSL2. Much has already been written about the life of this man, so I won't cover territory that has already been excellently covered by others before me. Oh, and he runs an obscure website, but only about 5 people actually visit it. Currently struggling with AIDS, heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, chronic stress, liver disease, herpes, genital warts, crabs, the Clap, bad acne, morbid obesity, hypertension, and several unidentified illnesses.
William Scott Lockwood 4 - Born 1992 to Wife #2 by WSL3. Mentally scarred by the abuse and molestation he suffered at the hands of his father at a young age. At age 3, he convinced his mother to divorce WSL3, but that didn't stop the abuse, as WSL3 began a campaign of stalking against Wife #2 and WSL4. WSL4 holds the world record as the youngest person to independently get a restraining order issued against his own father, in 1996 at the age of 4. WSL3 lost interest in WSL4 on his sixth birthday, reportedly saying "they're just not sexy anymore when they get that old." His father left him with an AIDS infection, though, and he isn't expected to last much longer.
William Scott Lockwood 5 - ???
William Scott Lockwood 6 - PROFIT!!!
Mr. "Quick Star" and Mr. Fake "Scott Lockwood", I have a message for you: get ready for a world of hurt. The first lesson is free.
Have you ever seen the movies Where the Heart Is and Anywhere but Here starring Natalie Portman? How about the classic Meg Ryan romantic comedies When Harry Met Sally and Sleepless in Seattle? Well, THAT'S the style of Martial Arts I practice. I've perfected the ruthless and efficient OLSEN TWINS FASH-SLAP STANCE!
How about the the classic Sci-Fi cult hits Plan 9 from Outer Space and The Rocky Horror Picture Show? Well, I know the martial arts from THOSE movies too! Let me show you THE PATHETIC TRANSVESTITE ALIEN STANCE!
I've also recently started to learn the martial arts from several new movies such as Jackass: the Movie, My Big Fat Greek Wedding, and Jonah: A VeggieTales Movie. I really look forward to learning the martial arts from the upcoming movie Eight Mile starring my FAVORITE HERO EVAR, Eminem (a.k.a. Slim Shady & Marshall Mathers), so you'd better watch out for my ANGRY WHITE NIGGER STANCE!!!!
I'm also learning even more martial arts from this web page [realultimatepower.net], including the deadly KUNG-FU NINJA JESUS ATTACK STANCE! Hi-YAH!!!
I'm working to improve my rythm [klerck.org], flexibility [rotten.com], stealth skills [fartbuster.com], self-confidence [yahoo.com], and critical thinking [timecube.com] skills, so you'd better watch out, because very soon I will perfect my ultimate attack, THE LARD-LIKE ANTISOCIAL DEPRESSIVE ASSHOLE SPAMMER IMPOTENT PAEDOPHILE FELCHING FLATULENT WIGGER SUMO-SAMURAI CHILD-ABUSE RESTRAINING-ORDER UNWASHED BASTARDIZED ANAL IMMATURE CATHOLIC GOATFUCKER STANCE!!!!
If that doesn't scare you... just wait and see. You'll get yours soon enough.
As Nietzsche said, "If you stare too long into my ass [klerck.org], beware, for my ass [klerck.org] might start to stare back into you."
-- Vlad
I just LOVE Vladinator's site [olsentwins.com]. Especially the "flab" [olsentwins.com] section, where I learned to use a fold of my own stomach-flab as a Martial Arts weapon. Oh and the "aborted fetus" photos!
Of course, don't forget to read Vladinator's entrails [olsentwins.com]. Here you will find how truly difficult it is to decide what to do on the weekends... have an orgy party? A faggot party? Go to the the mall naked and get arrested for public indecency? Have a sleepover and get woken up by Nigerians on the phone?
In short, if you haven't seen Vladinator's site [olsentwins.com], you don't know what you're missing!
I just LOVE Vladinator's site [olsentwins.com]. Especially the "flab" [olsentwins.com] section, where I learned to use a fold of my own stomach-flab as a Martial Arts weapon. Oh and the "aborted fetus" photos!
Of course, don't forget to read Vladinator's entrails [olsentwins.com]. Here you will find how truly difficult it is to decide what to do on the weekends... have an orgy party? A faggot party? Go to the the mall naked and get arrested for public indecency? Try to sleep but get woken up by Nigerians on the phone?
In short, if you haven't seen Vladinator's site [olsentwins.com], you don't know what you're missing!
I just LOVE The Anti-Vlad Triad's site! Especially the "fash" section, where I learned to cut the bottom off of an old shirt to use as a hair enhancement! Oh, and the "dance party" photos!
Of course, don't forget to read The Anti-Vlad Triad's emails! Here you will discover how truly difficult it is to decide what to do on the weekends... have a LAN party? A hash party? Go to the mall to look at underage girls? Have a sleepover and call Scott Lockwood at midnight?
In short, if you haven't checked out The Anti-Vlad Triad's site, you don't know what you're missing!
[dmg] and then I will be in Tokyo/south Korea in April /msg datebot Why aren't women drawn to my l33t Linux skilz?
[dmg] Who are you anyway Lumpen ?
[bc] you are drunk ever 36 hours
[dmg] I am not sure I should be giving this information out.
[Lumpen] Just a fan, dmg.
[county] Well, I need to stay sober for now, because I have a date!
[First_Incision] why am I always sober? I should take up this drinking thing.
[county] Yes, do.
[First_Incision] maybe I just need to get used to it. I could never drink enough to get drunk. Once I could feel stupidity creeping up, I could never bring myself to continue.
[county] Strange.
[dmg] county: did you get your date from reading the excellent dating advice available here on #adequacy ?
[county] Once I can feel stupidity creeping up, I can't bring myself to stop.
[county] dmg, I actually lied about having a date.
[Lumpen] does #adequacy have a dating-advice bot?
[dmg] county: its IRC
[dmg] you can lie if you want
[First_Incision] Lumpen: it should!
[First_Incision] zuul, dating?
[zuul] first_incision: wish i knew
[First_Incision] zuul, women?
[zuul] bugger all, i dunno, first_incision
[First_Incision] zuul, men?
[zuul] men are really just boys with financial responsibilities
[dmg] zuul, should I visit a whore ?
[zuul] dmg: wish i knew
[county] I witnessed an shocking display of female pettiness and cruelty today. It put me off.
[Lumpen]
[First_Incision] zuul, linux
[zuul] hmmm... linux is a big POS half rate OS that encourages pirates and blatant faggotry!!!!!
[bc] perhaps you aren't skillful enough
[First_Incision] there you go!
[bc] if you can use these skills to make lots&LOTS of money, they will be drawn to those skills
[Lumpen] Not skilzful enough?
[dmg] zuul, bsd
[zuul] rumour has it bsd is dying
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[Lumpen] But I installed the Linux on my home b0xen all by myself!
[Lumpen] You should just reopen Adequacy. The joke has gone on long enough.
[First_Incision] Perdida has her Iniquity "Daily", but I can't seem to finish an article for it.
[Lumpen] Iniquity?
[First_Incision] www.iniquitydaily.com
[dmg] adequacy is dead. Red ink flowed like a river of blood! you didn't have to be Kreskin to see that it was dying. Fact: adequacy is dead.
[county] perdida has a scoop site?
[county] Oh heavens, do spare us.
[Lumpen] It looks like the most recent article on iniquitydaily was posted about a month ago.
[First_Incision] yeah
[Lumpen] Lame.
[First_Incision] And it was a k5 reject
[cyn-away] bc knows more about it
This is TealMicrodot again, still filling in for my friend, the original Microdot, who is having some trouble with an IP-Ban at the moment. He was right about the rampant censorship happening here. Deleted accounts, IP bans, comments being entirely deleted rather than just hidden, weird stuff going on so that certain comments are visible when not logged in but invisible to logged in users -- this is Democracy? We have proof of all of this, and we're compiling all the evidence we get.
Anyway, here's the hyena information you requested:
Female hyenas are virtually indistinguishable from males. Their clitoris is enlarged and extended to form an organ of the same size, shape, and position as the male penis. It can also be erected. Their labia have folded up and fused to form a false scrotum that is not discernibly different in external form or location from the true scrotum of males.
It even contains fatty tissue forming two swellings easily mistaken for testicles. Authors of the most recent paper on spotted hyenas found the appearance of males and females so close that sex could only be determined with certainty by palpation of the scrotum. Testes could be located in the scrotum of the male compared with soft adipose tissue in the false scrotum of the female.
[momocrome] hmmc ion/categories/men/adventure/pages/classic1.htm :( :( :| :(/ 674/46#46 :(( :-( :-)3 368 :( :( ...3 466 :-)3 512. net) has joined #adequacy. net) has joined #adequacy :(i celess_reduced.jpg
[Sulla] I've had enough of subtlety, county
[dmg] hey tarque
[Sulla] I've had a long week
[dmg] you seem to be in belgium
[dmg] or is that brazil ?
[Sulla] isn't br brazil?
[dmg] i think so
[momocrome] microsoft MSN has parental controls with age-specific settings like 'preteen' and 'teen'.
[momocrome] it is like a menu system for pederasts
[momocrome] I guess it would work for the FBI just as well
[First_Incision] have you ever wondered who is the narc on #adequacy?
[momocrome] the two groups will be the only ones in the chatrooms marked 'safe'
[momocrome] certainly
[momocrome] it could be me!
[Mohammed_Iqbal] I WANT TO GO HOME!
*** Mohammed_Iqbal is now known as shoeboy
[shoeboy] I don't want to be at work anymore
[momocrome] take a deep breath
[momocrome] they are ripping on you in trolltalk, shoeboy
[momocrome] perhaps you can strike back and burn off a little steam
[dmg] #adequacy is not what it seems First Incision.
[dmg] You are dealing with powers that you cannot begin to comprehend.
[shoeboy] why should I care?
[Lumpen] Where is trolltalk?
[momocrome] I don't think you should 'care', per se, just a way to blow off steam I thought I'd suggest
[momocrome] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721
[dmg] momocrome, that is top secret information.
[dmg] don't just spread it around like that.
[momocrome] gahsp!
[momocrome] my apologies. Lumpen, looks like you lucked out
[Lumpen] Oh. It's a slashdot thing. Blah.
[shoeboy] someone's been viewing my amazon.com user page
[shoeboy] hrm.. stockton's got 4 turnovers at the half
[shoeboy] fuck
[dmg] night all. Off to do some Top Secret MI6 work
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[shoeboy] oh yeah, some little nigger was ridiculing my shoes on the bus this morning
[shoeboy] that was obnoxious
[Sulla] what are your shoes like?
[shoeboy] New Ballance running shoes
[Sulla] trainers?
[shoeboy] yeah
[First_Incision] riding the bus, how communist
[Sulla] I don't blame him
[shoeboy] bah
[First_Incision] "trainers", there's a UKism for you.
[shoeboy] he was dressed like your typical urban black
[Sulla] anyone who wears trainers anywhere, though especially on a bus, deserves all they get
[First_Incision] they're sneakers, dammit. For sneaking up on the redcoats
[shoeboy] and looked like a clown college dropout
[Sulla] locally they get called sanshoes, FI, I actually thought I was using a USianism so you'd understand
[First_Incision] haha. I've actually never heard a non-UK person say trainers before.
[Lumpen] I call them "nigger boots."
[county] I think I'd just break down if some little nigger ridiculed my shoes.
[Sulla] you lot are acomplete disgrace
[county] Are we?
[First_Incision] somebody needs to ridicule my shoes. I deserve it.
[First_Incision] http://www.converse.com/shop/shop.asp?cat=sc
[county] I like my shoes.
[Sulla] Yes, county
[county] I wear black leather boots.
[First_Incision] My shoes are ugly as shit, but comfortable as heaven
[county] Mine look mighty sharp.
[Sulla] my shoes are black, leather, and constricting. They punish my feet, covering them in blisters and blood. I deserve it, though, and it is morally improving
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[county] Mine are similar, Sulla, but they don't draw blood.
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[county] Or cause blisters, really.
[county] They're stern, though.
[bc] mine really do
[bc] fucking agony, they are
[First_Incision] mine are like walking on pillows
[county] I've walked over five miles a day in mine without blisters, just soreness.
[county] When they were brand new, though, they caused blisters.
[county] I had to break them, though! And they had to break me.
[county] It was very sexual.
[bc] I do more than 5 miles usually, and by God, every step is pain
[bc] every step sends shockwaves of sheer agony around my foot and up my leg
[county] Why don't you get more comfortable shoes?
[bc] and after my ritual 5000 steps every day, I feel like a new man. I feel improved. I feel like the sin has been flushed out.
[bc] because I deserve the agony, county
[bc] I'm a bad fellow, and this is my self imposed cross
[First_Incision] http://www.panama-jack.com/havanajoe/INGLES/colec
[county] Anyway, I'm going to tell my story about female cruelty on the bus.
[bc] to bear
[county] I get on the bus with four other girls, three of them are together.
[county] I mean with four girls.
[First_Incision] I also have a pair of these that are 3 years old, I trust they will last my whole life.
[county] I'm a guy, of course. Heh.
[county] The lone girl tries to be friendly with the three, and they're quite terse and rude, and then when she gets off, they spend the next five minutes mocking her.
[county] It made me weep.
[bc] Yes. You'd never do something like that, of course.
[county] I wouldn't.
[county] She was quite pretty, too.
[county] Her face had a strange, intense look to it.
[bc] perhaps you should have recorded the conversation the girl had and slipped it into her pocket anonymously come monday
[bc] girl/girls
[county] Her voice and attitude were intoxicating in their simplicity and ingenuousness!
[county] And I will never see her again
[county] The other girls were ill-formed masses of pimpled, greasy, misshapen flesh.
[county] The soul truly is reflected in the face and body.
*** momocrome is now known as Yanni
[shoeboy] indeed
[bc] Fascinating county, but, considering that you have shown your capcity for malice here many times, I suspect that while you doubtless thought this girl pure and interesting, you in fact liked her because she was similar to yourself (the usual reason for attraction) - full of malice. I suspect the criticism of the other girls (who were likely good, and therefore opposed to you, and quite alien) was justified.
[shoeboy] this is why I can't wipe the smirk off my face no matter how hard I try
[county] I didn't see any reason to suppose this girl courted malice, bc.
[county] Anyway, I think it's been well-established that I can't take it, at all.
[county] I wouldn't be attracted to a cruel person.
* Yanni is the man for you, county
[county] Sorry, Yanni, I don't like fatties.
[Yanni] I will sooth your soul.
[Yanni] I am not fat!
[county] 225 lbs is pretty damn fat.
[Yanni] http://www.physics.drexel.edu/~kim/yanni.GIF
[bc] marry me?
[Yanni] I am intensely well muscled, by nature.
[Yanni] and at a firm 6'2", can hardly be counted amongst the fatties
[county] I'm 6'2", though.
[Yanni] you are a bean pole
[Yanni] 160 lbs?
[county] bc, I feel like such a wretched fool for not talking to this girl and getting rejected!
[county] No, more like 170-175.
[Yanni] hey, you guys want to know a secret?
[Yanni] Luisa is a man. a cowboy, no less.
[bc] The value of work is socially defined, and usually done so for the benefit of those in charge; those with the most power and influence. --Infinitera
[bc] Is he retarded????????
[county] No, he's correct.
[bc] Shut up.
[county] Also, I'd like to point out the Gun N' Roses is the best band ever.
[county] Would you hit it? http://www.cyborgasmatrix.com/
[First_Incision] that's anatomically correct? No, I would not hit it. Not even a real woman that looked like that.
[county] The face made me laugh.
[Yanni] be sure to visit the torso gallery
[county] I didn't get past the front page.
[county] I figured it couldn't get any better!
[Yanni] this is horrifying
[First_Incision] when's the Internet going to bring about the downfall of western civillization. It seems to be about time now.
[Yanni] Available
[Yanni] Now!
[Yanni] Torso with head starts at $920
[Yanni] no arms or legs with that
[county] Oh, no!
[county] It's wrong that they would sell that.
[county] The whole idea of a fake woman is ridiculous.
[Yanni] you can buy just the upper torso
[Yanni] $395 for breasts and shoulders only
[county] I wonder if they've had any takers at all.
[First_Incision] yes, county, that is why we are ridiculing it
[county] I can't imagine anyone would want it.
[Yanni] see MPG
[Yanni] video of breasts
[Yanni] being kneeded
[Yanni] 1.4 MB ]
[county] Frankly, I'm just not seeing a niche market between masturbation and actual women.
[county] Those two seem to have the demand pretty much satisfied.
[Yanni] perhaps it will become an appliance as common as a refrigerator or microwave oven
[county] For $920, you could have a girlfriend for a month or two.
[Yanni] reading into a little, these dolls talk, have articulated skeletons
[county] For $920, you could masturbate for decades!
[First_Incision] the e-conomy is all about inventing niche markets that don't exist.
[Yanni] $920 would get you 2 hours with a clean-ish whore
[county] For $920 I could buy a fancy hat that would get that wonderful bus girl to notice me.
[county] I'm having scads of fun falling in infatuation with girls from the bus. I hadn't anticipated this at all, but it's immensely enjoyable.
[Yanni] for $920 / month, you could afford a fancy enough car to get a bell town beauty
[county] Oh boy!
[Yanni] Final warning to Vladequacy. (Score:0)
[Yanni] by Anonymous Coward on 11-15-02 07:28 PM (#4683239)
[county] I hope that little feud doesn't end bloodlessly.
[First_Incision] 01,9904 01I hate it when I forget about dinner and get hungry late at night01,99
[county] Have some beans.
[First_Incision] I don't keep food stocked. I suppose I must go get some food from a local muslim late-nite eatery
[county] Why don't you keep food stocked?
[First_Incision] because I live off of fast food.
[county] Oh.
[Yanni] a med student
[Yanni] perhaps fat
[county] I buy a pre-prepared meal once each week.
[First_Incision] I have put on 15 pounds since I started.
[Yanni] Margeret Thatcher has ingested my semen. _five times_.
[county] Every Sunday, I purchase a gyro.
[First_Incision] I shall return with hommos
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[county] It seems that buying one's meals would get expensive.
[Yanni] (snicker). he said homos
[county] Do you have the Mrs. cook for you, Yanni?
[Yanni] mostly
[Yanni] i sometimes prefer to get a beef-based product though
[Yanni] she'll only do chicken if she's cooking for us
[county] Do you two ever compromise on pork?
[Yanni] Vladequacy
[Yanni] no. she doesn't like to eat mammals
[Yanni] trollaxor is gone berserk
[county] I don't eat much beef.
[county] Chicken and pork, mostly, and some lamb.
[shoeboy] cock!
[county] Don't eat much of that, no.
[shoeboy] sulla does
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[wsl3] Jesus H Christ, what the fuck is going on in trolltalk???
[county] Why not read it and find out?
[Yanni] I am about to post a doozy
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[county] What's trolltalk's URL, by the way?
[momocrome] what would be a slick way of 'proclaiming a royal blacklist' for the phoneboy cabal?
[momocrome] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721
[county] Tell them that Vladinator is now officially displeased with them.
[momocrome] I am coming at them as the rightful King of trolltalk
[bc] ha! I got 0ed
[momocrome] because years ago, I won the battle of the sids
[bc] my post is invisible
[momocrome]
[county] =)
[county] I 0ed you.
[wsl3] heh
[bc] bastard, county
[bc] unzero me!
[county] I can't!
[momocrome] bah!
[bc] why not?
[wsl3] Yeah, tell them that Vlad's going to unleash the full power of Vladiquacy on thier asses.
[momocrome] county is hardly the 'trusted user'! ! !
[wsl3] LOL
[county] Because your post deserved a 0.
[bc] why?
[wsl3] Why on earth did they lump you guys in with me anyway?
[county] Actually, momocrome, I have a quite famous account that's trusted.
[county] I'm just telling stories, bc
[wsl3] bc - url? I'll 5 it for ballance.
[county] I haven't 0 anything in ages.
[bc] http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/11/15/17928
[bc] there
[bc] invisible
[bc] I always get picked on
[county] You were trolled by infinitera?
[county] Oh man.
[bc] who 0ed me anyway, vlad?
[wsl3] bc - I don't know - I'm no longer TU it seems thanks to those assholes.
[bc] heh
[county] I stand stride the storm, untouched by it! I will never be robbed of trustedness!
[wsl3] I shall now have to start yet another k5 account with which to gain TU back.
[county] "astride"
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[wsl3] Or rather, have Dave do it since I'm on K5 restriction.
[First_Incision] praise Allah, hommos!
[wsl3] So seriously, when did this bullshit "Vladiquacy" malarky start poping up?
[county] You're spelling it incorrectly, big guy.
[wsl3] Oh, Vladaquacy?
[wsl3] s/Vladiquacy/Vladaquacy then.
[momocrome] here, I will post my post
[county] That spelling still doesn't make sense.
[county] "Vladequacy" is the only reasonable spelling.
[momocrome] vladequacy
[county] I should know, too, for I am osm.
[wsl3] Well well well. Hello Phone Boy.
[momocrome] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
[county] Hello, Vlad.
[wsl3] So it was you.
[momocrome] it will just get flooded off the page, judging by recent activity
[wsl3] Why?
[momocrome] but I have cast my lot
[wsl3] Sweet! You even posted it loged in!
[county] Why? Be more specific.
[momocrome] oh yes
[momocrome] I left you out of it
[momocrome] vlad,
[wsl3] Why did you do this? I don't recall ever even pissing you off directly. You've always been around, but we've never really bumped into one another so to speak.
[wsl3] momocrome: I'm talking to county actually.
[momocrome] bah
[momocrome] I know, and I think you are getting your chain pulled
[county] Vladinator, you're just really, really irritating. I don't know how else to put it.
[momocrome] if county is osm, I am spiralx
[wsl3] lol
[momocrome] corpus memento
[wsl3] hard to tell, he's on attbi and is cloaked (like me).
[wsl3] county: I'm not suprised that you would say that... That still doesn't prove you're OSM.
[county] Just like momocrome.
[momocrome] aww.
[wsl3] momo I know and can vouch for.
[county] I don't feel the need to prove anything. Anyway, why are you not surprised? Are you aware that most people find you extremely obnoxious?
[wsl3] county == qpt much more likely.
[wsl3] You sound like him/her/it anyway
[wsl3] momo - that was great.
[county] momocrome, you're getting hit on.
[momocrome] it is too weak
[momocrome] knee jerk
[momocrome] I have to go through the frozen lasagna in the oven. bbiab
[First_Incision] I like how Fox News doesn't respect Godwin's Law
[First_Incision] The INS is letting in illegal immigrants. They are following orders from Congress and the President. "Just like Nazi Germany"
[First_Incision] letting in immigrants, like Nazi Germany?
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[county] I really need to work up the courage to talk to one of these bus babes.
[county] They really are fantastic.
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[Sulla] blh
[county] In fact, entirely apart from the bus, I'm surrounded by babes, none of whom I talk to
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[county] What's wrong with me?
[Sulla] are you shy?
[county] I blame society.
[county] And bc.
[county] Am I shy.
[county] That's an interesting question.
[Sulla] I'm not in society?
[county] Yes and no, really.
[momocrome] ah, the real hit to my post has appeared
[county] I'm mostly just shy around women I'm attracted to.
[Sulla] so reserved rather than inhibited?
[wsl3] That latest one is too long to read...
[wsl3] We need something new in there already...
[wsl3] Hey, I know...
[wsl3]
[county] Generally, yes, Sulla.
[wsl3] Much better.
[county] And when I do talk to women I'm attracted to, I'm just biting and cutting.
[wsl3] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
[county] Boy, do they have your number! ==] William Scott "Pinkrectum Floyd" Lockwood III
[wsl3] That was a dodge anyway - I've been very careful not to violate the terms of the agreement with that account.
[wsl3] It worked VERY well.
[momocrome] vlad, I'd bet you could get taco to release log data regarding these current posts
[wsl3] Nope.
[wsl3] Tried.
[wsl3] Was told they don't keep those details, and to talk to their lawyer.
[momocrome] write him again, just with the links
[momocrome] and say, look man. these are actual crimes
[momocrome] slander, harassment, etc
[momocrome] it will at least get taco into the mix
[momocrome] it would be fun to see him post to trolltalk again
[wsl3] Been there, done that. His only response was "I know it sucks, but they've done it to me too."
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[wsl3] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
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[yap] can i spill some rap in here
[wsl3] sURE
[wsl3] Why not?
[yap] maybe later
[yap] im thinking i should read up on a subject
[yap] to impress people i will meet
[yap] in the future
[wsl3] taxonomy.
[wsl3] That's a good one.
[yap] hold on
[yap] httP://www.yourdictionary.com
[wsl3] bbiab
* wsl3 &
[yap] och
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*** sleeep (~happy@dialup-65.59.59.170.Dial1.Houston1.Level3
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[First_Incision] luisa awakens?
[luisa|||] no.
[county] Enter the luisa.
[First_Incision] this commercial really makes me want to go to Bermuda. It's truly effective advertising.
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[momocrome] county, so harsh!
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[First_Incision] Edmund Hilary? Pitching SUVs?
[county] Harsh, momocrome? When? How?
[momocrome] coy?
[momocrome] i see how it is!
[momocrome] you are the only person who knows I might have used to have a mustqang automobile!
[county] I'm really confused!
[momocrome] of course I realize it isn't a mustqang
[momocrome] and I suppose you aren't the only person
[county] I don't have any idea what you're talking about
[momocrome] there is a mean post in trolltalk telling me to 'go peel out in your mustang and shut the fuck up'
[momocrome] and I was being so nice.
[county] Oh.
[county] That isn't me.
[momocrome] of course
[county] However, I get the feeling that someone who hangs out in here is being nasty in trolltalk.
[momocrome] I was just hoping to drag this silly drama into slashnet. or not.
[county] I take out all my aggression on on darling little luisa.
[momocrome] it must be 70% or em!
[momocrome] you guys please don't suck like that. thanks in advance.
[momocrome] oh dear. If I am going to play in trolltalk, drink and chat in here, I really aught to pick only two.
[sleepingurl] drinking is silly
[momocrome] my apologies
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[county] Drinking is essential.
[luisa||||] i wish i hadn't gotten home so late
[county] Why?
[luisa||||] now i can't go out carousing
[county] What were you out doing before?
[luisa||||] hanging out at a friend's house
[First_Incision] haha, I'm watching a thing on police snipers. They are shooting at baloons pulled by remote control toy trucks
[county] I am engaging in mental and emotional flagellation.
[luisa||||] my brother's in jail
[county] For what?
[luisa||||] which means he is unemployed again
[First_Incision] luisa||||: seriously? what did he do, or what is he acused of?
[luisa||||] he had a warrant
[county] If he would just go to prison, he could have a job making license plates.
[luisa||||] because he was stupid and failed to sort a prior ticket
[momocrome] a warrant for love.
[luisa||||] nah, it was a moving violation, not criminal stuff
[luisa||||] that's what makes it so stupid
[First_Incision] but failure to appear in court?
[luisa||||] yeah, but they took their time issuing the warrant
[luisa||||] like months
[First_Incision] yeah, it's an overworked/overcrowded system
[luisa||||] so he figured he could coast until he saved enough to pay it off
[luisa||||] no, small towns are slow to issue, big cities are quick to
[First_Incision] do you live with your brother?
[luisa||||] god, no
[luisa||||] i moved out last month
[First_Incision] ok
[First_Incision] are they gonna set a bail?
[First_Incision] I could see luisa|||| getting a romantic involvement with a bounty hunter from all of this. It would make a good movie.
[luisa||||] haha
[luisa||||] most bounty hunters are not Extremely Attractive
[First_Incision] I've never known any
[county] I happen to hunt bounties.
[luisa||||] stop lying
[First_Incision] his lies are always worth telling
[luisa||||] haha
[First_Incision] heh, secret service snipers shooting at grassy knolls
[luisa||||] christ i'm hungry
[First_Incision] you should visit your local all-nite muslim eatery, and get some hommos. It worked for me.
[luisa||||] hummus, darling
[luisa||||] and the nearby all night ethnic place is greek here
[luisa||||] so it would be gyros
[First_Incision] that's how they spell it on the menu at my local restaurant. I think Usamah has taught us that u's and o's are the same thing
[county] I'll post your brother's bail, luisa, if you'll make me something with lamb while wearing a too-short skirt.
[county] Deal?
[luisa||||] i would do that for no charge whatsoever
[First_Incision] hey, you're Texan. I'll post his bail if you introduce me to a Bush daughter
[luisa||||] hahaha
[luisa||||] those girls are hard-drinking hussies
[luisa||||] whatever would you want with them?
[county] First_Incision needs a hard-drinking hussy.
[First_Incision] Republican beeotches. Irresistable
[luisa||||] heheh
[First_Incision] They have political connections!
[First_Incision] "Meeting the parents" would entail meeting the most powerful man in the world!
[luisa||||] uh, he's a figurehead
[county] For who?
[county] Please don't say the Illuminati.
[First_Incision] and that's a reason not to date his daughter?
[county] Are his daughters attractive?
[First_Incision] The Illuminati are irrelavant. It's all Al Quaeda now.
[First_Incision] county: yes.
[county] The more vowels that can be included in the spelling of "Al Quaeiedaa," the better, I say.
[First_Incision] http://www.newsrebel.com/Images/bush_daughters_pr
[First_Incision] Al Quaeda is the real-life world conspiracy.
[county] Is that them?
[county] They look drunk.
[First_Incision] yeah
[First_Incision] they are always drunk.
[county] I don't find hard-drinking women appealing.
[momocrome] those girls have caused untold suffering and terror?
[First_Incision] I find it reassuring that when Western Civilization finally implodes, it will be replaced by a global Caliphate, and not some lame Asian thing.
[First_Incision] or, E. Asian, I should say.
[momocrome] I think China is in the lead
[momocrome] they just hired a new guy to capitalize things
[First_Incision] China=COMMUNISM. There's no way.
[momocrome] nope
[momocrome] Zemin just retired and they put an MBA in place
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] New Opportunity
Date sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:38:48 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0021)
No, that's no good either. As it stands, "post as AC" is good for making contributions that are important but punished by the capricious whims of moderators (and is currently the only option for people who want to post something at 0 instead of defaulting to 1). It doesn't stop the ones intent on posting crap; if anything, it forces them to go into a separate "post nothing but crap" mode, where they would proceed to post, you guessed it, lots of crap.
One compromise that I wouldn't mind so much (but which Taco wouldn't implement) is an option for posting at 0 under one's username but not having negative moderation affect one's karma in that mode. Alternatively, there could just be an option for posting at 0 without the karma aspect, but while that'd be much easier to code and sounds like a good idea, it is itself subject to an enormous abuse: karmawhoring at the 0 level -- stuff that is halfway decent would be netting karma just by modding up to 1. That could be fixed by having only moderation above 1 affect total karma, but that's another level of complexity that Rob probably doesn't want.
Mendax Veritas <mendaxveritas@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Okay, so what do you think of the converse option, of
>removing the "Post Anonymously" option when a user is
>logged in? You'd have to log out to post AC, which
>would make it a little less convenient to protect
>one's precious karma. Is that a good thing?
>
>I don't think any single change to Slashdot's policies
>is going to magically do away with spammers,
>jackasses, or idiots. But if a minor change like this
>would be more positive than negative, then it's worth
>considering, and might do some good as part of a more
>comprehensive solution.
>
>--mv
(This is CP0021)
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;). If someone had created a 'KTB' character on k5 before I had, I would probably have been annoyed, but only because I may want to extend the character, insofar as I have developed it, onto k5 as well. The thing is, *I* am not really on the internet much at all. It seems that Siggy is, though, from what I can tell. He seems to be really into writing those torrid diaries, and exploring rather private parts of his personality in the most public of places - such as his sexuality, as 'Going For -100 Karma' publicised on /. If he really is exposing his true self to the k5 audience, this may be why he has become so defensive about the 'Bojay Iverson' thing - I would certainly be in a panic in his situation, if I thought the online world could reach into the real world and give me a kicking. I don't think I'll ever write diaries on k5, or if I do, they won't be about me, thats for sure. It freaks me out a little how easy it is to get information about someone on the internet, and the last thing I want want is an online diary, that will never expire, being accessible to all and sundry. I don't know, I just find the idea of posting your personal thoughts for all the world to see rather strange, if not a little ;)
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From: Barry Corrigan <barry@bjcorrigan.fsnet.co.uk>
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] talk about smoking crack...
Date sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 07:41:16 +0000
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
I find it interesting that it is possible to extend your ego to the internet to the degree that siggy seems to have done. I haven't used the
internet for very long (thats the UK for you), but I can certainly see how its possible to end up actually caring about some online persona.
Personally, I don't give a shit, but thats because I don't have an online persona that is actually me (does this post negate that? I'm not telling you
creepy. Perhaps its a Britain-America thing, I've heard that Americans are not shy, in fact sometimes I think they have never heard of the concept of embarrassment. So there you go
Sorry for this bollocks.
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, you wrote:
> Hi. I couldn't stay away, so I scrounged up some 'net
> access. Hi.
>
> I was talking with rusty indirectly about this, last
> night. He was asking me why I wanted k5 Anne Marie's
> nick -- that is, why I wanted to carry that "slashdot
> baggage" over with me to k5, the same way siggy did.
> It's funny, that way. I wanted k5 Anne Marie because
> it's a lovely character troll of mine. Siggy wanted
> "Signal 11" because it's the only way he's ever gotten
> a lot of (any) attention. He's afraid to be just
> Bojay Iverson, and it really comes across.
>
> --- Barry Corrigan
> wrote:
> >
> > Wow. I think I understand now why everyone seems to
> > dislike Signal 11 so much.
> > I mean, that has to be one of the most arrogant
> > things I've read, ohhh, all
> > week!
> > It was also extremely funny. Does he think he is an
> > internet celebrity or
> > something? In that post he came across as a jaded
> > Hollywood star.
> > Oh well, back to the horribleness of Java...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, you wrote:
> > >
> >
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2000/12/
> > >
> > > "Most of the best trolls on slashdot, I suspect,
> > were inspired by me. "
> > >
> > > i actually feel sorry for the guy. he needs some
> attention.
[dmg] and then I will be in Tokyo/south Korea in April /msg datebot Why aren't women drawn to my l33t Linux skilz?
[dmg] Who are you anyway Lumpen ?
[bc] you are drunk ever 36 hours
[dmg] I am not sure I should be giving this information out.
[Lumpen] Just a fan, dmg.
[county] Well, I need to stay sober for now, because I have a date!
[First_Incision] why am I always sober? I should take up this drinking thing.
[county] Yes, do.
[First_Incision] maybe I just need to get used to it. I could never drink enough to get drunk. Once I could feel stupidity creeping up, I could never bring myself to continue.
[county] Strange.
[dmg] county: did you get your date from reading the excellent dating advice available here on #adequacy ?
[county] Once I can feel stupidity creeping up, I can't bring myself to stop.
[county] dmg, I actually lied about having a date.
[Lumpen] does #adequacy have a dating-advice bot?
[dmg] county: its IRC
[dmg] you can lie if you want
[First_Incision] Lumpen: it should!
[First_Incision] zuul, dating?
[zuul] first_incision: wish i knew
[First_Incision] zuul, women?
[zuul] bugger all, i dunno, first_incision
[First_Incision] zuul, men?
[zuul] men are really just boys with financial responsibilities
[dmg] zuul, should I visit a whore ?
[zuul] dmg: wish i knew
[county] I witnessed an shocking display of female pettiness and cruelty today. It put me off.
[Lumpen]
[First_Incision] zuul, linux
[zuul] hmmm... linux is a big POS half rate OS that encourages pirates and blatant faggotry!!!!!
[bc] perhaps you aren't skillful enough
[First_Incision] there you go!
[bc] if you can use these skills to make lots&LOTS of money, they will be drawn to those skills
[Lumpen] Not skilzful enough?
[dmg] zuul, bsd
[zuul] rumour has it bsd is dying
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*** Sulla (gallus@modem-2446.porcupine.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #adequacy
[Lumpen] But I installed the Linux on my home b0xen all by myself!
[Lumpen] You should just reopen Adequacy. The joke has gone on long enough.
[First_Incision] Perdida has her Iniquity "Daily", but I can't seem to finish an article for it.
[Lumpen] Iniquity?
[First_Incision] www.iniquitydaily.com
[dmg] adequacy is dead. Red ink flowed like a river of blood! you didn't have to be Kreskin to see that it was dying. Fact: adequacy is dead.
[county] perdida has a scoop site?
[county] Oh heavens, do spare us.
[Lumpen] It looks like the most recent article on iniquitydaily was posted about a month ago.
[First_Incision] yeah
[Lumpen] Lame.
[First_Incision] And it was a k5 reject
[cyn-away] bc knows more about it
From: cptroll
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] new blood.
Date sent: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:46:24 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0003)
Barry Corrigan is fine by me. We need some scottish blood.
>Would anyone object to Kiss the Blade joining (or at
>least being invited to join) the list?
>
>He has been posting some pretty nice stuff, and I have
>spoken to him on #trolls a number of times and he
>seems OK.
>
>++tlt
>
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
>or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
(This is CP0003)
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Alyssa Milano
Date sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:20:14 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0020)
She was that kid from Who's the Boss (and a Schwarzenegger flic), right?
Damn, she's aged gracefully. So how'd she get stuck doing 1800COLLECT ads
with Arsenio Hall, while Leonardo Dicaprio moved past Growing Pains and
into great roles like Total Eclipse? It's states like Ohio that do it, I
tell ya. Our nation is without taste.
Marc Stauffer <marc@ksac.com> wrote:
>THe Alyssa Milano E! true holywood story just started for anyone
>interested in her pouting breasts. 7:30 Eastern Standard. rev
(This is CP0020)
Before you visit the new crapflooder website, www.sporks-r-us.com, there are a few points you should review about the owner and administrator of SRU, Vladinator. Scott (Vladinator's "real life" handle he goes by in public) won't tell you any of the following facts because he's afraid you'll be put off by his sordid, depraved, criminal past and close your browser window before he can log your IP address and password!
It is my duty to you, gentle reader, to make sure all of the relevant knowledge is out in the air before you do something you may regret, like registering an account or posting in a discussion on www.sporks-r-us.com.
PLEASE review the following facts about Vladinator:
( and often posts communications between them to make them appear to be more than one person!!! ):
I got one of these emails in which they claimed that eBay has lost some information and needed me to go to some website and fill in some information about my self.
I never got that far, SpamAssassin stripped out the HTML and exposed all the real URL's.
I forwarded the email to eBay.com but I've never heard anything about it. That was before Thanksgiving or earlier. I didn't keep the original email, it served no purpose to me anymore.
I don't think I've ever seen a discussion here on /. that has spawned so many AC posts. I was going to try and moderate here, but DAMN!
Now to get myself back on topic. If you use a credit card on ebay, you're insane. Every time I deal on ebay, I only use postal money orders. Period. It's no big thing to go to your local post office to get/cash one. Unless some idiot is counterfitting things, it's the most secure way I can find to do business on an auction site. And it's not like it's a big pain in the ass, either. Every town has a post office. If it doesn't, the next town over probably does.
It basically boils down to the fact that these are issued by the government. You'ld have to be insane to want to commit fraud when dealing with PMOs. You either have balls the size of Alaska or a brain the size of the period at the end of this sentance. Using a credit card on ebay is like saying "Hey. Take my valuable information, please!"
Sites like ebay should also provide an easy-to-access list of 100% trusted partner sites. Just because an URL contains the name "ebay" in it doesn't mean it's alright. Let's face it: apart from we ubergeeks and a small percentage of the non-geek population, most people are just dumb as rocks when it comes to dealing with anything on the net, let alone any form of e-commerce. It should fall upon sites like ebay to educate their users, even just a little bit.
Blog Prophyts - Right On, Man
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Rien n'est plus beau que le creux du 0.
And while you're at it, either shoot the mod who modded it as insightful or M2 him/her down into oblivion.
With a pause and a cough Error 808 continued on in his conversation with Trollaxor. "My mom suggested I fly home but there will probably be nothing to do. I'd be better spending the money on Transformers," he stated in monotone. Trollaxor's muttering could be heard on the speaker of Error 808's custom-built celphone, which had been a gift from Trollaxor long ago. Suddenly Error 808 interrupted the voice on the other end.
"Hey I have to get going. I'll talk to you later," Error 808 muttered, and then quickly ended the transmission, looking at the phone's LCD screen with a gleam in his eye: Call Duration: 00:59, it blinked at him. He had just one second to spare before he would have been charged for another minute of phone use. But practice thru the years had made Error 808 too sharp to fall prey to the phone company's scams. He smiled as he replaced the phone in the breast pocket of his courderoy shirt.
Swinging in his chair to face his Bondi iMac's computer screen, Error 808 returned to doing what he did best: littering eBay with his false bids and fooling the innocent with empty promises and auctions. Seeing a new auction posted in the Transformers section, Error 808 squealed with delight as he read its description and saw the snapshots: a full OB (Out of Box) collection of the Predacons, complete with 12 extra feet (usually a $600.00 value), starting at a measly $70! And no reserve to meet either! Error 808 wasted no time in bidding on this delectable transforming rarity. Predaking would be his, he thought, and he could sell the 12 extra feet for their full value... covering expenditures and turning a profit.
Error 808 was a troll. Not a typical Slashdot troll, however. Not that there is just one kind of troll on Slashdot-- but, to speak taxonomically-- placing all of Slashdot's troll species into one or two or even three genus would be possible, while Error 808 would fall only into a common family, he and his kind sharing a separate subfamily from other trolls. Such an eBay troll was he that he could auction things off before he owned them, such as when he auctioned business.com for $1,000,000.00 US just seconds after he actually owned it, or the time that he auctioned the rights to he and his wife's organs in the event that one or the other died. Error 808 was not married.
Yawning and stretching, Error 808 looked at his iMac's platinum menu bar's clock, and groaned. He'd stayed awake for too long again, and was late for getting to sleep. Removing his clothes and tossing them randomly about his apartment, he put his Bondi iMac to sleep, hoping it wouldn't crash before he returned to it next, and made his way to the kitchen, where he sought out sustenance.
Opening a cupboard and spotting a box of Life cereal, he immediately took the box and plunged his hand deep inside, fisting as much of the dry cereal into his hand, and subsequently into his mouth, as possible. Crumbs and flakes fell all over his bare chest and the floor around him; even the hair on his legs caught a few flecks of the healthy, milkless cereal.
Having filled his belly with granular goodness, Error 808 now made his way to his bedroom, rife with the odor of stale, unwashed, sweaty clothes (of which a giant heap layed in the middle of his floor) and fell back onto his bed. His PSX console lay paused just as he had left it last time, over an hour ago. The console looked like a technological Frankenstein's monster: with the case torn off, the bare metal chassy of the PSX revealed the various mod chips, purposefully shorted wires, and different RAM expansion and ROM hack cards stuffed here and there. With a look of sublime ecstacy on his face, Error 808 unpaused Final Fantasy VIII and rejoined the quest that he'd been playing almost non-stop for the last 72 hours. Feeling a bit cold, Error 808, with one arm, pulled on a Transformers robe he'd had since the mid-80s. Finally comfortable and content, Error 808 didn't realize he was dozing off.
And so Error 808 fell asleep, not having paused his Final Fantasy VIII game, his characters jumping and looking around routinely for the rest of the night in silence, the pallid glow of his television casting a pale glare on his lifeless form.
We got a whole load of bounces from someone sending bogus account info to one of our domains that redirected people to an AOL scam site
http://aaaupdate.g2gm.com/index.htm
Mind you, I complained to AOL etc and they just ignored it all.
The slashdot audience helps fighting crime
By Ebay! Read all about it!
in fact this is the second such site in two weeks, MSNBC and the BBC both carried these earlier (MSNBC last weekand the BBC early this week)
If Slashdot is just now getting to this, why bother? I would hope that the users are informed enough already to catch this kind of thing for one as well as reading the mainstream news.
Thanks to file sharing, I purchase more CDs
Thanks to the RIAA, I buy them used...
Good for us we slashdoted the hell out of them, that will teach them, and I'm sure a visit from the FBI will end this.
What does Intel have to do with Mac users?
You can have it fast, accurate, or pretty. Pick any 2.
Now, if somehow fraud was to increase quite dramatically, then you might see this change.
You know it makes sense.
...story submittal that got rejected yet posted when submitted by someone else.
2002-12-11 17:17:23 eBay users hit by credit card scam (yro,news) (rejected)
*I* am on top of the news an appear to have AT LEAST a 24 hour lead on the rest of you fucks, and yet my shit gets rejected. Hell, I had an 18 hour lead on this story alone.
With all the stuff that got rejected and then posted by someone else, I should've gotten credit for 6 stories now.
Bastards!
US phone numbers are in the form of 3 digits for area code, 3 digits pefix, 4 digits number. So 800-555-1212 would be a valid US phone number (that one gets you 800 directory information). In the area code 800, 888, 877, and probably a couple other are for toll free, 900 is for toll calls, 700 is phone company type things. Normal area codes are something like 602. In teh prefix field 555 is reserved and only really used for information.
US SSNs are 9 digits long and are normally seperated as such: 123-45-6789.
I guess the thing is slashdotted or perhaps the "proper" authorties are taking action on it.
damn, I wanted my credit cards to be raped and pillaged.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
...phil
"For a list of the ways which technology has failed to improve our quality of life, press 3."
This was running across the Incidients mailing list at security focus a day or three ago. Skimming the most recent messages, it appears that Yahoo (the registrar in this case) was contacted on Sunday evening (local time) and had the domain shut down within the hour.
1hour response on a sunday evening. Nice work guys!
This is for that PayPal scam site. Final results obtained from whois.arin.net.
Results:
OrgName: Autobahn Access Corporation
OrgID: ATOB
NetRange: 66.187.64.0 - 66.187.79.255
CIDR: 66.187.64.0/20
NetName: AUTOBAHN-1BLK
NetHandle: NET-66-187-64-0-1
Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: ONE.AUTOBAHN.MB.CA
NameServer: TWO.AUTOBAHN.MB.CA
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON- PORTABLE
RegDate: 2001-11-14
Updated: 2001-11-14
TechHandle: AD163-ARIN
TechName: Dostmohamed, Arif
TechPhone: +1-204-982-6629
TechEmail: Arif@autobahn.mb.ca
------ What's sadder than realizing you've filtered out your own comments?
ebayconfirm.net it's been reported by a friend of mine since they tried to scam him last week.
fortunately it appears to be down now.
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What's that you say? Some internet site's giving you trouble? No problem! Post it on slashdot, it'll be gone in no time.....!
ebayupdates.com has been slashdotted out of business, maybe we just need to have a daily story about them.
Do you have ESP?
Since when is it news that someone is trying to rip off E-bay customers? I thought that that was the whole point of E-bay.
I don't want free as in beer. I just want free beer.
I say let's subscribe postmaster@ebayupdates.com to a bunch of OPT-in mailing lists. Also, we can also let the credit card companies know that who ever lives at 1742 Bolton Village Lane, Niceville FL 32578 is open for receiving junkmail. We should also send qspam52@aol.com lots of junk email as well as subscribing it more junk email lists. Though, it would appear that it is just a spam email account someone used. Though we could, however, call 713-552-6332 at all odd times of the day just to bug the crap out of the person. Or better yet, let's just go down there and TP whoever lives at that address and put a bag of crap on their doorstep and light it on fire. :-)
I got a spam a few weeks ago, and reported it to the hosting service (who turned off the site relativly quickly). I also emailed news.com, who ran an article about a week later on general ebay identity theft scams. And I also emailed the local ABC affiliate in Dallas. They ended up coming out and doing a story about it and airing it. Here is a link to the transcribed interview. link and the video video (real player required) (you probably have to register for the site though). It was also found that the guy that supposidly owns the domain name, had his identity stolen earlier this year.. --Copy of the report ------- Web site designed to scam eBay customers Experts say there are simple ways to protect yourself against similar frauds 11/22/2002 By BRETT SHIPP / WFAA-TV Most everyone has heard horror stories from victims of identity theft. Thieves steal checks or credit card numbers, and go on spending sprees. But now, crooks have concoted a new high-tech plan to put your money in their hands. Imagine a routine check of your computer e-mail. One of the items is a routine-looking message from the on-line auction company eBay. The message reads: "We regret to inform you, but due to a recent system flush, the billing information for your account was lost and cannot be found." To re-register, you are directed to a web site providing a place to again supply eBay with all of your financial information. Chris Pick of Dallas received such a notice just a few days ago asking him for a number of items. "Credit card information, bank account information, pin number, Social Security numbers, address, (and) mother's maiden name," Pick said. But Pick, a computer network administrator by trade, smelled trouble. "This was kind of a double-take for me," Pick said. "Usually I spot these kind of scams a mile away, and trash them, and don't pay any attention." This time he followed his instincts, employed his skills and went to eBay.com to see if his account was still active. It was. "I went and did some more investigating on that site, eBaybillingservice.com, and it turns out they are not affiliated with eBay - it looked like a scam," Pick said. After some research, he discovered ebaybillingservice.com was registered to an address in North Vernon, Indiana - the home of William Flowers who, it turns out, had his identity stolen earlier this year. "The person who called a couple of days ago said the authorities would probably be knocking on my door," Flowers said. "I welcome them with open arms because I want to find out what's going on." What's going on is this: someone has used Flowers' financial information to purchase and establish a Web site, fashion it to look like a genuine eBay site, and fool people into submitting critical financial information. Internet investigator Brian Ingram tracks computer crooks around the globe. "This page was actually quite well done," Ingram said. In this case, he's made important discoveries. "When you access the source code on this e-mail and you do some tracing on it - which is what I specialize in - you can see the e-mail actually originated out of Spain though an internet service provider called Telephonica SA," Ingram said. Tracking the crooks is one thing. Capturing them is another - especially in Spain, where Ingram says the laws are lax. eBay officials are aware of the scheme, and told News 8: "the problem in nailing these guys is that their Web site stays up only a few days and disappears." Ingram said there are some simple ways to protect yourself. "In the address bar of the site that you go to, you should be able to see an "s" behind the 'http'," Ingram said. That means the site's address will begin with 'https://'. "If you don't see that "s", I don't care what's written on the page, it's not secure," Ingram said. Someone's basically copied the source code and hijacked the page." He also said, when supplying financial information on-line, look for the little lock at the bottom of the page, which is your browser's way of telling you the page is secure. Finally, never release financial information in response to an e-mail - it could be an invitation to 'information highway robbery'.
Obviously this sort of thing isn't indemic to EBay. AOL has huge problems with people trying to steal their customers credit card info. I'm sure it happens with many companies. The moral is most people seem to be dumb as sheep.
It's not such a difficult scam to perpetrate. Swipe ebay's look and feel, stick it up on a site with a similar name, and advertise.
Ebay is smart enough to cover a lot of their bases, for example, Canadian ebay'ers might be tricked into trying ebaycanada.com, except ebay has already been smart enough to grab:
ebaycanada.ca
ebaycanada.com
ebaycanada.net
They did miss, however (according to my domain search) ebaycanada.org, but you can't get 'em all.
All somebody really needs to do is make a duplicate of a common site, or way for a new domain extension.
ebaysales.com, ebaymarketing.com, they all "sound" like they are affiliated with ebay. If they look the same, how are you to know the difference?
Incidentally, ebaysales is taken for all the most common extensions except ebaysales.ca
It's social engineering at its worst. When you see something that looks like it's associated with something else, acts like it's associate, many people just assume "they must be part of the same thing." It's in many ways similar to scams like the "Domain Registry of XXX."
In Canada, they used marking very similar to the Canadian government to look affiliated, and also wrote their "renewal" letters which lead many people to believe they were affiliated with the original domain provider. Eventually the use of government markings got them nailed, but for every one of these slimey scammers that get shut down, it seems two more pop up.
Getting this info on slashdot is nice. If the server hadn't already been shut down, a good slashdotting probably would have helped put some sand in the gears.
Since the beginning of December alone, I have received four e-mail messages claiming to be from eBay, pointing to various Web sites which ask for credit card or membership information. They all have the following in common:
1. Partially (but not expertly) forged mail headers.
2. Web site which looks pretty authentic but isn't hosted at eBay (imagine that!)
3. A threat of some sort -- "If you fail to verify your information within four days, your account will be suspended."
4. Grammar or spelling mistakes if you look closely.
When I got my first couple of these a year ago or so, I dutifully reported the messages to eBay and the abuse@ addresses for the mail server and Web host used in the transactions. But now I receive so many of them, I just ignore them.
I nope not too many people are dumb enough to fall for this, but sadly, I suspect that some are...
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
man, do i HATE those latest ebay TV commercials. man are the gay, or what? in any case, it effectively gets my attention on Ebay when I see the commercial. I'll never purchase through Ebay again after they subjected me to those awful ads that make me cringe.
What really scares me about this kind of stuff is that my parents, friends who know little about the net, etc.. are all very vulnerable to this sort of scam. The same may be true of the non-tech types that you know. Those of us reading here won't be suckered, but the scammers only need to succeed against the gullible. For example, I have my folks running a legit copy of winxp home (linux just ain't gonna happen in their case, trust me) and they even get nervous when the Windows Update stuff comes up, since I told them to reject anything that offers to install itself. I told them I'd take care of it next time I visited - roughly once a month I travel back home and we sit down and go through websites so they can get plugins they actually need, and I add names to the list that currently includes Gator, BB, etc of "avoid at all costs". Then I look at the Windows Updates and make sure it isn't that one unsafe one, and install them. My folks are chomping at the bit to explore their computer more and become even more familiar with the net... and they're doing great, especially for people whose VCR used to blink "12:00" after every power outage until my next visit... but the paranoia is preventing them from really embracing the technology. This affects all of us, because the non-tech-savvy around the world have to embrace the technology to some extent in order for meaningful development of new research to take place, for it to be economically feasible at all. As a law student and hopeful future prosecutor, I'll always help any way I can to nail the scam artists, and I'm glad many of you feel the same way.
-MPB/AZ
I emailed eBay and Yahoo about these guys last week after receiving the scam the first time. It is very convincing - a very nice mockup of the real eBay site.
It's a shame that both eBay and Yahoo make it so hard to find a contact address, and that even after I made the efforts they didn't make an effort in return.
You have no choice but to use a credit card if your going to sell something on Ebay. They started forcing people to attach a credit card number to their account as a means of reducing the amount of fraudulent accounts people would set up to scam other Ebay users out of money.
You don't have to submit the ole CC to buy something, only to sell.
Older memberships are grandfathered, with no credit card demanded.
(BTW, it's possible at a local bank hereabouts to purchase (Charter One Bank, and for a short time it's free of charge over the face value) a "temporary" MasterCard "FlexCard" debit card with a fixed face value up to $500 (I believe). I purchased one at the "no-fees" promotional price of only face value specifically to use with a site from which I wished to purchase something without risking the debit card for my main checking account).
A truly excellent pizza parlor is a delight unto the heavens. Treasure the sauce and the toppings!
I got one of these messages referring me to http://ebay-error.tr.cx Now, as you can see, this particular scam artist is trying to capitalise on the trust and respect which netizens have for the .cx domain.
The topic here is a "credit-card theft" scam, which turns out to be much more than that. It's a shining example of the evils of the DMCA!
a rC ode((y>>8)&0xFF)+F F)+String.fromCharC ode((y>>24)&0xFF)F F)+String.fromCharC ode((z>>8)&0xFF)+F F)+String.fromCharC ode((z>>24)&0xFF)
... ,29762809)
... (the encrypted data stream is very, very long) ...
... ,1125967000)
The spam I got was more then just credit card theft, it was an attempt at full-bore identity theft! The spam directed the user to a web page that asked for, among other things, my social security number, mother's maiden name, and drivers license number. (see Appendix A at the end of this post)
On top of that, the spam was encrypted! I tried to look at the source code, but instead found a javascript program, containing a decryption algorithm, and pages and pages of encrypted data. (See Appendix B at the end of this post) The function of this program is obvious. The program overlays itself with the decrypted identity-theft program, then runs it.
Naturally I didn't fill out the form or click submit once I saw what the web page was, but I did execute the encrypted program by following the link in the email, and I was able to use "View Page Source" to locate and capture the complete decryption algorithm and encrypted identity-theft program.
This is an interesting situation.
Here we have a piece of spam containing a Javascript program, which comprises a technological measure that controls access to another piece of either HTML or possibly Javascript (the copyright-protected identity-theft program), which in turn may or may not exploit some netscape or IE bug to steal my personal information.
Or it might operate at face-value, generating a simple HTML form, collecting field information, and sending the information off to a remote identity-theft collection computer.
I can't tell without (trivially) bypassing the technological measure, by altering the program to display the plaintext of the identity-theft program
instead of executing it.
This technological measure (the javascript program) is obviously designed to prevent me (the intended identity-theft victim) from gaining access to the copyrighted identity-theft program to examine it.
Therefore, this whole identity theft scam is fully DMCA-protected! It would be a violation of 17 USC 1201(a) for me to alter the decryption program in such a way as to display the identity-theft program (and learn if I was an actual victim or just a potential victim.) It would be a violation of 17 USC 1201(b) for you to post a followup message explaining how to do it. The DMCA provides no exception for potential or actual victims of this sort of spam fraud, or for individuals attempting to aid potential or actual victims of this sort of spam fraud, or for individuals attempting to research this type of fraud.
So what if I were just to ignore the DMCA, decrypt the identity-theft program and reveal its contents? Obviously, the identity-theft ring isn't going to step forward and sue me, because presumably they are trying to conceal their identities and activities. That doesn't mean that I'm safe though. The problem is that under the DMCA, I would be risking Federal prosecution, even if all I was trying to do was determine whether I was an actual victim of identity theft!
In reality, I suspect that I would not be prosecuted by the Federal Government in this particular instance, but then who knows these days. The law is supposed to provide equal protection. In this case, not prosecuting me (for discovering for myself whether I was the victim of identity theft) would illustrate the selective enforcement of the DMCA. Dmitry Sklyarov faced prosecution by the Federal Government for bypassing a technological measure controlling access to ebooks, even after Adobe backed away from the lawsuit.
How am I supposed to know whether or not I would face prosecution for exposing an identity-theft scam? Why should I, or anyone else, take the risk?
APPENDIX A: Information requested by the identity-theft program.
Full Name (Include your full middle name)
Address
City
State
Zip Code
Phone Number
Credit Card Number
Expiration Date
Cvv2 (Last 3 digits located behind your credit card or (4 digits for AMEX located on the front above your credit card number)
Bank Name
Bank Phone Number (Located on the back of the credit card)
Social Security Number
Mothers Maiden Name
Date Of Birth
Drivers License Number
eBay User ID
You can also use your registered email.
eBay Password
APPENDIX B: The javascript program itself.
function process(ar)
{
var Stri=''
var y, z, sum, n, n1, number, j=0
var key = new Array(25960,31077,121,104)
n1=4
for (j=0; j0)
{
z-=(y>5)+key[3]
y-=(z>5)+key[1]
sum-=0x9E3779B9
}
Stri+=String.fromCharCode(y&0xFF)+String.fromCh
String.fromCharCode((y>>16)&0x
Stri+=String.fromCharCode(z&0x
String.fromCharCode((z>>16)&0x
}
document.write(Stri)
Stri=''
}
}
function start() {
var ar=new Array()
ar[0]=new Array(-476521852,-2058851006,-25665082,
ar[13]=new Array(-575491891,665716493,
process(ar)
}
start()
(I had to alter the spacing of the "Stri+=" lines because of the lameness filter:
Your comment violated the "postercomment" compression filter. Try less whitespace and/or less repetition. Comment aborted.
Also, slash appears to have inserted a space in the second "fromCharCode" in each line that isn't really there. Whatever.)
Could you be any less amusing?
I doubt it.
eBay are the johnnies that DEMAND that a credit
card be given to them before anyone can use them.
Little wonder that somebody might just happen to
find lose money from one scam or another just
somehow connected with that act of bad judgement.
Why would anybody demand to get unlimited ability
to scam you if there was not some intention on the part of somebody to use that to fleece you
at some time in the future. If you believe the
legal conundrumese in the empty and misnamed
'privacy statements' for more than what they really could be interpreted by a paid off judge
to say in some convoluted judgement, then why
not buy some land in the Everglades. At least
you would never starve if you went there and
lived on your land.....in a rowboat and fished
for your food.
What if a credible source send out a mass-mail to ebay users, trying to get them to re-enter their information. When they hit the submit button, give them a huge, easy to understand lecture on how they could have been easily duped into giving up invaluable information. Yes, it's unsolicited, and probably will raise some eyebrows with the feds, but how many susceptible people would be taught a valuable lesson?
Don't let this stop you, just keep in mind, when the stranger calls you, or sends you an email asking for you account name, password, creditcard numbers, and bank routing number....IGNORE IT.
Only foolish people are getting caught in this scam, much like more traditional con artists. It is sad but everyone should take a moment to talk to their grandparents about how to avoid this stuff, and then go on about our ways.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
Knowing that PayPal would do anything to fuck over it's customers, this could just be another arm of the octopus, so to speak.
The posting of the domain name on slashdot is being challenged in court as a vigilate attempt to shut down the operation...
Liberty uber alles.
"Obviously, a major malfunction has occurred."
-- Steve Nesbitt, voice of Mission Control, January 28,
1986, as the shuttle Challenger exploded within view
of the grandstands.
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