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Nintendo's Playstation Settlement Bombshell (or not...updated)
Magamo writes "Console Talk has the story on a settlement between Sony and Nintendo over the rights to the "PlayStation" name, which was originally a joint owned copywrite, given to a CD and Cartridge based system to play SNES games. The settlement is for 10% of Sony's proceeds, past and present on the "PlayStation" name, currently amounting to approximately $2.3 billion. Nintendo is allowing Sony to pay it off in installments over the next 20 years. Nintendo currently plans on using the money to create a new game studio comprised of members of some of the biggest in the japanese industry, in order to create titles exclusively for the GameCube. Hmm, my guess is that Sony's next console will be shying away from the PlayStation moniker..." CD: It seems that I might have fallen for a hoax. Doh!
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I think it should be "trademark"...
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Maybe we won't see the PlayStation 5 after all.
I like how the story is down even before any comments. Somehow I don't trust my news from www.consoletalk.com.
I'm sorry but this is bullshit, something like this would be major news especially considering that Sony is a publicly traded company and would have been obligated to inform it's investors that it was being sued.
Sorry guys, no news here move along, it's bullshit.
Yep, this is definitely true. A major story like Nintendo getting 10% of past sales from the PlayStation brand would definitely be only reported on an unreputable site like ConsoleTalk, and not on, say, Yahoo News, CNN, or Reuters.
And as for no news from Nintendo and Sony about this? That's just because they're slow in getting the press release out. Right.
This isn't true. How about doing some small amount of research next time before publishing the article.
This is related to the "Megaton" announcement from Nintendo coming soon. Some sites say it's Capcom being bought by Nintendo, some sites say it's Sony paying Nintendo money for the PS brand, some sites have equally ridiculous stories. All sites are rumours and aren't true (so far), as no announcement has been made.
from news.google.com: Your search - sony playstation nintendo trademark - did not match any documents.
That's bullshit. It does too match a story, "Nintendo's Playstation Settlement Bombshell," posted 5 minutes ago on Sl... dammit.
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I doubt that much. Only the name is copyrighted, and somehow I doubt that merely mentioning the name when discussing backwards compatability would qualify for royalty payments.
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copywrite? COPYWRITE?
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I am in total disbalief that an upstanding bullshit free site such as slashdot as posted this article. For one, Nintendo has never had ANY stake in the playstation name. Nintendo and Sony's partnership on the then dubbed "SNES CD" ended without the project going anywhere. Because of Sega CDs flop, Nintendo pulled out extremely early in the process and left Sony to develope it alone. AFTER Nintendo left the partnership is when Sony took up the PlayStation name. Check out Copyright.gov if you dont believe me. 3. Registration Number: VA-759-813 Title: PlayStation. Description: Computer graphic. Claimant: acSony Computer Entertainment, Inc. Created: 1994 Published: 10May94 Registered: 2Apr96 Title on © Application: PS device. Special Codes: 5/S The official copyright database says NOTHING ABOUT NINTENDO. There is no way in hell that Nintendo could POSSIBLY win this suit, and there's no way in hell they are dumb enough to pursue it. I have lost much faith in my beloved slashdot for posting such total unofficial rumored bullshit.
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I would expect Sony's stock price to have plummeted and investors would be made aware (no evidence on Yahoo Biz).
I would expect that Sony's website would mention this issue (here's the press release site for the Playstation http://us.playstation.com/news/PressReleases/ and Sony's official press release site) Note the lack of this story.
Google turns up no results either.
Don't post stories like this without checking them.
Even though I'm an adult, I still find the same things fun.
It's not like I suddenly stopped finding Metroid fun. Metroid will always be fun. To actually say something that implies you stop enjoying certain things once you get past a set age, well.... I call bullshit.
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Probably, since a google news search of sony playstation nintendo turned up this article from Dec. 4 calling it a rumor for the gullible. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?sect ion_name=pub&aid=998
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This is all pure speculation related to an upcoming "megaton" announcement Nintendo is supposed to make in the near future. The speculation ranges from this story to Nintendo buying Campcom and Sega. It's all been a contest to see who can get their page linked the most with the most outrageous story, and it looks like this site won.
As for the actual announcement, please don't post any more news on it until you see it on nintendo.com
There is no mention of this "settlement" on either the playstation or nintendo sites.
In the words of Kent Brockman: "Do we have a source on this?"
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In other news, a 45 year old italian plumber named mario, sues nintendo, for defamation of character, and slander.
Well, I'll check news sites tomorrow, but lots of them are going to be unreliable as they will likely be getting their information from the current news source.
Time will tell if this story is faek or rela.
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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?sect ion_name=pub&aid=998
uh? This is an old rumor. Fuck, its damn near ready for snopes. chrisd: Dont just post cause it looks cool, check it out first.
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Note to self: evidently "Informative" can also mean "moderately convincing lie."
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It would be even more funny if this would have propelled the story to be displayed on the google news front page.
However I suppose google's AI code would look for corresponding sources before alerting it's readers to something major like this.
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I used to love comic books, video games, and TV. I still enjoy video games once in a while, but my desire for all three of those things has really gone down. I now find Comic books way overpriced for 3 or 4 minutes of plesure, and TV just knaws at my brain.
People really do grow out of things, but it's not like throwing more blood into a video game is going to make me want to play it more. The only stuff that kind of thing apeals to are 12-15 year old boys.
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No company whom's livelyhood is in an industry as volatile and sudden as gaming would agree to a "20 year" payment plan. That is absurd. I could see a massive corporation like Canon agreeing to maybe a 10 year suit of this magnitude with a much smaller company like Hewlitt-Packard/Compaq (in case you didn't know, Canon has patents on almost all laser printer and camera technologies, and builds almost all of HP's printers and the components that go in cameras - such a suit could be concievable if HP slipped up). This is because Canon knows that it will be around for at least another 20 years, and HP at least 15. But 20 billion from Sony over 20 years? Not likely. Nintendo would rather have 3 billion right now. The market in which Nintendo thrives would demand it.
The original poster was trying to imply that any game with bright, primary colours, or any game with Mario, had to be a kids game. That such games were only of enjoyment to kids. Ludicrous!
;)), but I still enjoy Mario Party 4, Super Monkey Ball, Smash Bros, etc. Games marked as "kiddy" by some. I play the crap out of them until my controllers don't work anymore. Is there something wrong with me? Not at all. I also enjoyed Monsters, Inc -- another "cute" movie which happenened to have depth, and a great execution.
I still enjoy video games a lot. Granted, I don't have nearly as much patience for jumping puzzles as I used to (which could also be linked to the greater numbers of games I own
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I guess the next system from Sony won't be a "box", "cube", or "station". How about "Sony Girlfriend Eliminator"?
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Now we are getting duped by stories.
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Few people realize the jump between PS2 and the original Playstation. I know the halfly informed will jump out and say "yeah the old one is 33MHz, new one is several hundred," etc. But in this case the MHz (just as in intel/amd world) says nothing.
in every PS2, the "PS1" portion is not even another chip, let along anything they had to work hard for: there was no signal routing on the circuit board, no data passed between the new and the old (gfx proc, new cpu), and I don't even think it usued the memory (might be wrong on the last part, though).
The PS1 portion is but a corner of the I/O processor. (I/O processor handles (duh) I/O - but also sound - so PS1 core pipes the audio directly through.) So pretty much PS1 is running on the "sound card" portion of the PS2, if you will. I highly suspect that they had a lot of chip area left when making the I/O processor (or adding on the entire IP core of PS1 costed minimally) so they just said fsck it let's put that on there.
In desktop terms, this is equivalent to, say, running a Pentium II system using your SCSI card controller. (which, btw, the higher end ones from adaptec actually do use a P2 for the microcontroller)
Contrastingly - while that's not possible for the PS2 to be integrated into a dusty corner of a new-gen console for now - by the time P2 retires, I would not be surprised if they can pull the trick again - or if it proved to be costly then, they will probably just skip it.
Not sure if this is coverable under NDA, as it should be pretty common info via developer kits; but i am posting AC anyhow.
As a "news site," how liable is Slashdot for posting this story should it turn out to be total fiction? There was apparently zero editorial checking, and since the story isn't there, you have to wonder if it ever was. Did some Slashdot editor just see a cool story and "OK" the submission? If that's the typical way things get done, it's awfully unethical.
That must have hurt Sony. However, this shows how important the "brand"/name is to a company. Hmm.. I wonder if Micrsoft will get sued by some sextoy company for using "XBox".
This case is very interesting though. There was no news about this "Playstation" controversy. Doesn't a company have to run through an agency before it launches a product of a particular name?
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Don't you think the trademark of relevence would have been filed in japan, not the US?
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> If for no other reason, it's interesting
> Slashdot is one of the sites Google News searchs.
Yes. Slashdot bills itself as a news site, and it is looked upon as a news site.
Begging the question, as several have already asked: If this story had been posted 11 hours later (mid-morning), and it had caused -- even temporarily -- repercussions for Sony's stock value...what exactly would Slashdot's liability be?
(Or, to ask another way: How soon thereafter would Sony OWN Slashdot?)
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Google News and now The Inquirer (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=6816) have now sourced the article on
It's spreading.
More likely that the site took the article down in a desperate attempt to conceal the fact that they'd been posting blatantly false 'news' stories. I find it hard to believe that anyone who knows *anything* about the console market would believe this for a minute.
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That used to be the definition, but recently they pulled the word from the dictionary entirely. Perhaps Slashdot ought to do a story on that...
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In Video Gaming, anything lighthearted and fun gets labeled "Kids," and anything edgy and violent gets labeled "adults." While an adult movie like What Women Want can be fun, very few adult games retain that sense of lighthearted enjoyment.
Kids games are also in digestably shorter bites, with more intense enjoyment up front, for the little one's attention spans. This is great when you are trying to grab a moment between work and a trip to the grocery store.
That's just my opinion, but I'm not wrong.
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Anyone remember copywrite and copyiipc?
I'm dating myself, but back in the day, these were the two major copying programs that everyone used to copy IBM PC games/programs, back in the mid-80's. They would break most floppy-disk protection schemes and new versions would be coming out, it seemed every few months that would cover more and more programs and games.
I think it was thanks to the efforts of those two programs that software companies finally gave up on trying to add physical protection mechanisms on the floppies and eventually give up entirely.
Now if only the RIAA and the rest of the music industry would just learn from the mistakes of the past, they would realize that all their stupid protection mechanisms are just a complete waste of time.
Hmm, my guess is that Sony's next console will be shying away from the PlayStation moniker..."
Um, providing this article were true, why wouldn't they use the name? They just paid 2.3 billion dollars for it.
Well I don't think anyone's saying that you can't play these games as an adult. Like I said, I enjoy those kinds of things too. But if Nintendo really wants to grab more of an older age group, they should try making games that might appeal to people who really haven't been playing video games their entire lives like we have. Look at Myst; amazingly successful, because it appealed to people who weren't game players.
Nintendo's mistake, I think, is the way they try to twist their franchises rather than making new ones. I really don't understand their thinking sometimes.
It's like, "hmmm..those final fantasy games are popular, let's make our own RPG. Why not use Mario." Why not? How about because he's a freaking plumber in bright red overalls who jumps on mushroom peoples' heads. I mean, come on, we're willing to suspend our belief but not by THAT much.
BTW, I loved Sesame Street as a kid, and can still watch it if a younger relative is. What I hated, even as a kid, was all the Warner Brother cartoons, and I still do. Which is probably the exact opposite of most of the people here...