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US Military Uses Spam, Internet Explorer

chundo writes "CNN reports that the United States government has been secretly encouraging the defection of senior Iraqi officials via email. Iraq is responding by shutting down some of their internet gateways to prevent these emails from getting through, forcing the US to find alternate means to deliver the message. Maybe they should have enlisted this guy - emails from him keep showing up in my inbox no matter what I do." This story about the growing military network bandwidth crunch shows the U.S. military trying hard to get every soldier online, all the time.

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  1. What are we promising them? by dachang · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not 72 virgins I hope.

  2. Islamic Spam by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 5, Funny
    RE: Get your virgins BEFORE you die!

    RE: Pictures of Alah! Download now!

    RE: Make money selling burkas from your home.

    RE: Gain weight now!

    ...I'm gonna burn Karma for this one for SURE.

    1. Re:Islamic Spam by stevey · · Score: 4, Funny
      See, we americans hate seeing people get picked on. We put the bullies in their places.

      Yeah. The Whitehouse.

    2. Re:Islamic Spam by jafiwam · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think you are sort of miss-placing the blame for that hypothetical innocent loss of life in the upcomming war. (Obviously there will be some non-combatant deaths, there always are.) Yes it will be tragic when they do die. But you confuse executing a war with resolve and not caring about the few that die that dont need to.

      Entertain for a few minutes, the possability that maybe that Saddam and his cronies actually have the power to stop the lost innocent lives if maybe they do as the UN asks. Or mabye if he was not attempting to get nuclear weapons, or maybe had he not used mustard gas on his own populace...

      Think for a little while that though the USA has had bad moments of unleashing destruction against civilians (Japanese and German) that maybe this time the intent is to not do so?

      How about the fact that the USA is pushing the high technology smart and precision weapons, spending billions and billions dollars on them, weapons that allow strategic and tactical goals of war to go on with less loss of civilian life?

      The USA could bomb the whole place flat with regular, nuclear or thermobaric bombs, twice or three times without the new techonogy. Yet that has not been done.

      And, whatever you do, please do not forget the Muslem extremists specfic and intended goal is to destroy civilians, women, children and soldiers simply for what they are and where they are born, what their religion is an the fact they dont beat their daughters for going outside without full robes.

      Yes, civilians will die. The most saintly person in Iraq could be killed by a cranked up air force pilot dropping bombs in the wrong place. But the air force, army, and whatever the Brits send are there because the alternative will be worse.

      Blame the USA for a few dead civilians if you want. We'll still keep coming to rescue your pussy European ass anyway.

    3. Re:Islamic Spam by antirename · · Score: 4, Insightful

      War? That's what I'd call it. Typical, unfriendly, kill you before you kill me war. IIRC there are a few american citizens in Guantanamo as well. They are there because they seem to be terrorist shitheads, or were supporting said shitheads. They are enemy combatants, even if they are citizens. And, while I am not prejudiced against all muslims and know that there are terrorist of all religions, the muslim variety is causing the most trouble at this point. Terrorism is a violent occupation, and no one should be surprised or offended when a Predator launches a Hellfire up their ass. Shit happens. The terrorists and countries that support them seem to be breeding their own brand of crackers and kiddies as well (gforce pakistan for example). Whether or not they are supported by the pakistani government is debatable, but they are certainly tolerated. Jpost.com gets DOS attacks all the time as well. Are these script kiddies with an Islamic slant to justify their activities terrorists? Not exactly, in my opinion. Are they supportive of terrorists? They certainly would seem to be. And I can understand why Bush would classify such people as terrorists, even if I wouldn't. Of course, rumor has it that the US government DOSed alldas.de to prevent people from seeing those embarrasing .mil defacements. War and terrorism are about killing, death, dismemberment, and all kinds of horrible things. Is either justified? Sometimes neither, sometimes both. The world isn't black and white, there will always be wars, civilians will get killed, and that's that. All you can do is try to let your government know that you think that they should be certain that it's necessary before they start a war. War (especially with WMD out there) is a hell of a lot worse than a DOS attack, but harder to prevent.

  3. Spam sample by Devil's+BSD · · Score: 4, Funny
    Fm: gwbush@us.mil
    To: saddam@iraq.com
    Subj: Hot Iraqi Women in your Email!

    You have credit problms? Is you penis to small? Well you hav win $1,000,00 million dollars! Click here to claim you prize mony and send a nuke your way.

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  4. With all that spam.... by AltImage · · Score: 5, Funny

    So with all the spam, now the Iraqui leaders get a chance to help all those Nigerians get money out of the country. I bet they also have 12 inch penises, have overcome hairloss, and have lost 10 pounds just this past week. What are we trying to do...create a race of wealthy, well hung, rich guys to fight against?

  5. Is the US government stupid? by saskboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know about your email servers, but don't you go under the assumption that your email is being read by your ISP, or your boss?

    How does the US expect their defectors to reply to the offers? They can't very well send them by email for fear of being nabbed. Maybe they tell them to draw a big 'V' in the ground so the spy satellites can see that they want to vacate Iraq?

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    1. Re:Is the US government stupid? by goldspider · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's easy, all they have to do is click on the "Please remove my name from your mailing list" link!

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    2. Re:Is the US government stupid? by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They're not asking for an action, they're asking an inaction. They're warning them that if they use WMD, and get caught, the US is gonna send them to an early meeting with their 72 virgins. If they wanna have any status in the post-Saddam Iraq, they should ignore Saddam's orders.

    3. Re:Is the US government stupid? by shyster · · Score: 5, Informative
      Actually they're telling them to report to the UN.

      The message includes instructions to the e-mail recipients to contact the United Nations in Iraq if they want to defect.
    4. Re:Is the US government stupid? by Yokaze · · Score: 5, Insightful

      PKE is not a holy sword, which solves all your problems and hides all the information.

      It only makes the content of the communication unreadable, not the act of communication, which (at least for a police state) is enough information.

      Faxing doesn't hide the communication either. Hint: dialing a 1 as country code could be slightly suspicous.

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    5. Re:Is the US government stupid? by nomadic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      PGP encryption has a security hole that prevents that from being useful. They can be dragged out of bed in the middle of the night and forced at gunpoint to reveal exactly what they were hiding.

      Unfortunately, there are no patches for that.

    6. Re:Is the US government stupid? by reallocate · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'd guess it is a safe bet that all communications of Iraqi officers of that level is monitored by the Iraqi government. The act of replying to email from a known U.S. address -- regardless of the subject matter -- would likely bring retribution.

      In any case, this is an attempt at pyschological warfare: Stay on the sidelines in a war or you will be captured and tried as a war criminal.

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    7. Re:Is the US government stupid? by Zemran · · Score: 5, Interesting

      A good book for you to read is "Operation Splinter Factor" which is a true account of the early days of the cold war. The SIS used to send coded messages (content did not matter) to people that we wanted dead and the Russians would kill them for us. There was no need for there to be any understanding of what the message meant as the existance of the message was enough to get the recipient killed.

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  6. Army Spam - I can see it now... by jdreed1024 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mr. IRAQI PERSON,

    You MAY be SURPRISED to receive this, but THE OFFICE GIRL said that you were a most TRUSTWORTHY PERSON. I beg you Forgive me for contacting you without prior contacting your office, but I am looking for a WORTHY business PARTNER to donate the sum of USD 124.5 million dollars. I am the son of the FORMER president of the U.S.A GEORGE BUSH who initiated a MILITARY CAMPAIGN in 1991. During this campaign, we discovered HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of DOLLARS stolen from THE REBELS. OUR economy is IN TROUBLE and we MUST get this MONEY overseas before the people DISCOVER it. We will gladly be willing to pay you the SUM of 26 MILLION DOLLARS for ASSISTING US. I pray to GOD that you will HELP US get this MONEY out of the country. ALL we need FROM you is your PASSPORT and SIGNATURE which you can fax to me or my colleauges to initiate the transfer of the MILLIONS of dollars. I remain your most humble SERVANT, and PRAY that you will be OUR SAVIOR.

    SINCERELY,

    MR. PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

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    1. Re:Army Spam - I can see it now... by evilviper · · Score: 5, Troll

      The funny thing is: that's how GW really sounds...

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  7. I doubt it by The+Bungi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Iraq has no diplomatic relations with Nigeria.

  8. Bandwidth crunch in the Marine Corps by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Try sharing 256K over an encrypted up and down link through microwave radios to satellite throughout your 100+ user network. Don't forget the Marine Corps only uses NT 4.0 servers and Internet Explorer. Then watch some idiots who claim they NEED their LAN drops install AIM and Kazaa and forward a money making scheme from "Bill Gates" to your whole network and kick your Exchange server's ass in the process.
    Then fantasize about your Linux boxes at home as you try to salvage some idiot officer's "important files" from his Outlook virus infested brand new Dell laptop that he didn't deserve and no one loaded Norton on since he took it home every night and "was too busy" to let some enlisted IT guy fix w/ our standard program load.
    Can you tell I'm not looking forward to deploying?

    1. Re:Bandwidth crunch in the Marine Corps by mikeee · · Score: 5, Funny

      Am I the only one who finds it vaguely disturbing to suddenly consider that there is a large number of people who are both sysadmins and Marines?

      BOFH, indeed.

  9. No, it's something else. by Scalli0n · · Score: 4, Funny

    What I think really happened was a 12 year old kid hacked the Pentagon computers again and wanted to use all that technology to make some money, BUT at the same time, be patriotic. So what'd he do? Spam. He's getting 5 cents a click on the "Defect to USA" and "Fuck Saddam" pages AND he's dicking with Iraq.

    (FwooshSpinSpinSpinGargle) -- the sound of my karma as I click the Submit button)

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  10. Marketing - creating the need by Ratso+Baggins · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Spam is used to market items which are dubious to say the least. I guess GW's personal Jihad against Sudam Husux is looking more and more fickle each second....

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  11. Offtopic to Iraq, but... by ekephart · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I get spam from the military all the time. Ever since they got a list of names in high school I receive emails and snail mail letters encouraging me to "Join the ROTC", "Get Money for College", etc. Now that I'm graduating I get "Become an Officer in the US Military" letters. I guess if marketing is aggressive enough they won't have to bring back the draft.

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  12. Stupid, or hypocritical? by Greedo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But, if the US military is sending public key encryption to Iraqis, doesn't that violate the US Dept of Commerce's commercial encryption export laws?

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  13. Re:Let 'em die by Rolo+Tomasi · · Score: 4, Interesting
    We didn't even finish killing all of Hussein's Republican Guard troops because Bush called the war off after pictures of how terribly we eliminated the Iraqis showed up on TV.

    Err ... no. Bush I. chose to retreat from Iraq to have a justification for U.S. troops to remain stationed all over the Middle East. They went there during the Gulf war and never left. As for the press, it was heavily (and voluntarily) censored during that time, virtually all the footage was Army-approved, and in fact provided by the Army.

    Anyway, it was expected that Saddam would comply with U.S. interests after his defeat, without having to occupy Iraq and thus remove the need for U.S. 'protection' in the area. After this had proven wrong, the sanctions were put in place. Saddam remained defiant, and that's why the U.S. is heading there again.

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  14. Re:spam kills airforce pilots by shyster · · Score: 5, Funny
    Oh yeah, I'm sure they're just up there typing up emails to Central Command.

    To: centralcommand@us.mil
    From: WhiskeyBravo49@iraq.us.mil
    Subject: Request Instructions
    Priority: High^H^H^H^HCritic^H^H^H^H^HANSWER ME NOW DAMNIT!

    We're being shot at. Please advise. Thanks.

    Lt. James Parker, USAF
    555-555-5555 x555 (M-F 8a-5pm)

    Of course, Central Command probably just has an autoreply set up.

    Thank you for contacting Central Command. We are experiencing a higher than normal email volume due to the war in Iraq. Please be patient while we get to your email in the order that it was received. Your comments and questions are important to use, and thank you for risking your life for the USA.

  15. Oh just great by AndroidCat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now Iraq is going to strike back with suicide email bombers.

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  16. YES! (was: Re:Is the US government stupid?) by Fefe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh come on, there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The USA has had a massive surveillance operation running for years, they have spy sattelites and planes, and they bugged the phone lines, and they gave their info to the UN inspectors, and the inspectors conducted 250 unannounced surprise raids on those places and still found nothing!

    How much more proof do you need that Iraq does not have weapons of mass destruction?

    Spamming them may be a good plan to waste enough of their time to delay their progress, but it sure isn't stopping them from using the ones they have now -- because they don't have any!

    By the way: read this poll result in Portugal; more than 70% of the population think that the USA is the biggest threat to world peace today. 3% say it's Iraq, 1% say it's China. 12% say it's Israel.

    All this warmongering will only make things worse. First of all, it gave North Korea a legitimate excuse to leave the nuclear proliferation treaty. After all, Bush said he will to preventive strikes against his enemies, and he said North Korea is part of the Axis of Evil, so he actually gave North Korea the only good excuse to build more weapons.

    Bush should focus on rebuilding the economy he ruined so thoroughly, not on bombing Iraq and alienating Europe. Do you have any idea how frightened the South Koreans must be now, and all of that just because of a few dumb remarks from Mr. Bush?

  17. Soldiers Online?! by nathanh · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can just imagine how that will turn out...

    Private: Sarge! We're pinned down by Jerry's on all sides. We're almost out of ammo. We have no medical kits and Private Wilkins is bleeding to death. What do we do!?!

    Sarge: We're pulling out. Private Booths, send an instant message to HQ asking for a chopper liftout.

    Private: Uhhh, I can't do that Sarge. The PDA is jammed up with these messages for enlarging your penis.

    Sarge: Enlarged penis, you say? Must be a new battle technique. Right, men! Everybody flop out your penis and enlarge them. That'll get the Jerry's running scared.

  18. Agreed-- what Bush really wants by einhverfr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here are a number of things that had at first confused me.

    1) Ranking senators in the intelligence committees saying they had not been shown any further evidence that made them conclude that Iraq had WMD.

    2) The Administration's insistance that the group it shares the information with from the UN be *larger* than the current group of inspectors. Larger? WTF? If you want something to be secret you tell as few people as possible. Even the IAEA has mentioned that it would be helpful to them if the US has such informatin that they turn it over to the UN.

    3) Ok, so assuming that the Administration knows that their allegations are false, then what? Why pick on Saddam now? His army is far weaker, though better entrenched, than it was in 1991, and the real threats to US forces would likely be post-Saddam ethnic violence.

    So why Iraq and why now?

    15 of the 9-11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, and I believe that the Administration feels that probing too closely into any aspect of the Saudi nation or government fundamentally undermines US capability in the Middle East. First we have the fact that they are THE MAJOR source of foreign oil (not a big deal, we could always get it from Russia, or Iraq...), but the bigger issue is not about oil.

    We are immensely dependent on two nations in the Middle East for basing rights-- Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

    I suspect that the idea is that we can position US bases in a Post Saddam Iraq because, just as we are doing in Afghanistan today, we will continue to create a divisive system which needs some oversight by US troups.

    But I think the focus on Iraq is that a
    "liberated" (occupied) Iraq would make Saudi Arabia dispensible, and that we would no longer have to pull our punches regarding that regime-- expect it to replace Iraq in Bush's Axis of evil.

    In the end, I grudgingly supported operations in Afghanistan because I felt that Al Qaeda was a direct result of US aid to and recruitment for the rebels against the Soviets. But I am deeply concerned that if the US continues to sponsor the various warlords, that the rule of law will not return to Afghanistan, and it will be a place that will end up being the further breeding ground of terrorism. If we turn the middle east into our playground for witch-hunts, we will be encouraging the very thing we claim to be fighting, just as we did in Vietnam.

    I will disagree with you though-- the North Korea situation is complicated--

    1) North Korea we think was probably restarting their nuclear program in 2000, but only admitted to it more recently. On the other hand, the 1994 framework was supposed to give North Korea fully normalized relations with the US and membership in the world bank. These parts were never implimented, so one could argue that we broke it first (what the hawks think in North Korea, I would bet).

    2) The reactor was restarted when we suspended fuel shipment-- this gave them the excuse to restart the reactor because they do need the electricity. When the IAEA complained that the refusal to allow inspectors was a violation of the Nonproliveration Treaty, North Korea withdrew from the treaty.

    The unfortunate likely result is that North Korea will go nuclear-- we cannot negotiate with then for fear of encouraging nations, maybe including Iran, Egypt, or Saudi Arabia from starting nuclear programs. And failure to respond diplomatically, will result in North Korea going nuclear. Does this scare me? No-- North Korea has been a very repressive regime, but their policy towards the US has been one of deterrence.

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