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APC Recalls 2.1 Million UPS Units

Controlio writes "Check your cubicles. APC has recalled two of its Back-UPS CS models, the Back-UPS CS 350 and Back-UPS CS 500, in both the 120 volt and 230-volt flavors. The units were sold between November of 2000 and December of 2002. The affected units have the potential to overheat, melting the outer casing and causing a potential fire hazard. Yikes."

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  1. APC will remarket the ones returned: by saskboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    These returned UPS's will be resold as UFS's

    Unstoppable Fire Supplies.

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    1. Re:APC will remarket the ones returned: by baywulf · · Score: 5, Funny

      More like "Unstoppable Pyrotechnic Sources".

  2. their server's also melting, here's the text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    WEST KINGSTON, R.I. -- January 14, 2003 -- American Power Conversion (Nasdaq: APCC) (APC), in cooperation with the Consumer Product Safety Commission, today announced a voluntary recall of two models in its Back-UPS® CS uninterruptible power supply (UPS) line due to potential safety issues that may result in overheating and represent a potential fire hazard. The total number of affected devices being recalled worldwide is approximately 2.1 million with approximately 900,000 devices recalled in the United States.
    APC has received eight reports worldwide of units overheating resulting in the melting of the unit's outer casing, six of which occurred in the United States. Three of the reported incidents resulted in minor property damage. No injuries have been reported.
    The recall is limited to two specific models in APC's Back-UPS CS product line - the Back-UPS CS 350 and the Back-UPS CS 500, in both 120-volt and 230-volt models. The affected units were manufactured between November 2000 and December 2002. The units were sold primarily through computer and electrical distribution, catalog and retail outlets worldwide.
    Consumers with affected units can identify them by the model markings on the front of the unit and by the serial numbers located on the bottom of the unit. Only units with serial numbers having the first six characters in the following ranges are affected:
    AB0048 through AB0251
    BB0104 through BB0251
    JB0125 through JB0251
    Any units with an "R" at the end of the serial number are not part of the recall.
    APC recommends that the user immediately remove the UPS unit from service by turning off all connected equipment, turning the UPS unit off, and then unplugging the unit from the electrical outlet.
    To learn more about the recall action and the process for replacing the affected units, users should visit www.apc.com or call 866 APC-RELY (866 272-7359).
    APC has been working closely with the Consumer Product Safety Commission and other appropriate parties in this action, which does not affect any other APC devices.
    "We remain highly confident in the overall safety and reliability of all of our products, and have been working diligently to ensure that this action results in a minimum inconvenience to our customers and channel partners," said Rodger B. Dowdell, Jr., APC president and CEO.

  3. Nooooo!!! by oateater · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why do I have to return my huge brown truck??!?!?! WHY!!!!



    ooooohhhhhh UPS "UNITS"!, my battery backup. I won't miss that at all, thank god i can keep my truck.

  4. UPS by ez76 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Unexpected
    Pyrotechnics
    Show

    1. Re:UPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Unpleasant
      Plastic
      Smell

  5. Uninterruptible Power Supply? by Dr.+Photo · · Score: 4, Funny
    Hah!

    "Uninterruptible," my ass!

    1. Re:Uninterruptible Power Supply? by pyros · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'll say. At my previous job, all us developers had UPS units on their workstations. We also had mini-fridges in our cubes. As it turns out, all those fridges were believed to have caused a specific scenario where the signal on the power lines resulted in all the UPS units shutting off. Not going to battery backup, actually shutting off. That was a wierd day. Dan, you reading?

    2. Re:Uninterruptible Power Supply? by micromoog · · Score: 3, Funny
      At my previous job, all us developers had UPS units on their workstations. We also had mini-fridges in our cubes.

      Let me guess, all of your former co-workers now refer to that company as their "previous job" . . .

  6. Uh oh by CountZero007 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't tell which model mine is, all thw text melted off...

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  7. My Mother-In-Law by Foddrick · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thank heavens that a) My mother-in-law does not read slashdot and b) knows that I have one of these. She is convinced that any machine left turned on is a fire hazard. Now this would just add fuel to her ... oops :)

  8. Re:APC will remarket the ones returned by johnraphone · · Score: 2, Funny

    wow, if AMD and APC combine forces they can burn down and catch nearly everything on fire. :)

  9. I'm keeping mine. by Hubert_Shrump · · Score: 4, Funny

    When the lights go out - I don't know about you - but I want to huddle around the UPS, tell ghost stories, and roast marshmallows.

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    1. Re:I'm keeping mine. by Buck2 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Call me CRAAZY but I ain't gonna huddle 'round no UPS fire with some guy named "Shrump".

      Miss Titties, maybe, YEAH. Shrump, nooo!

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  10. Pop goes the power supply. by shotgunefx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Having a ton of equipment in my house, I had on occasion wondered if something like that could happen. A couple months back I had a netgear hub start acting whacky, later that day I heard a loud crack which at first I thought was a gunshot.

    It turns out it was the powersupply exploding. The plastic top blew off hard enough to make a mark in the ceiling. Examaning the supply, it looks like it was a tiny chip in the adapter. Part of it was not melted so much as cauliflower looking like a silicon STD. Perhaps they were made by Innova?

    This was only my second experience of something frying in all my years of computing but I do wonder what the actual rates of this type of failures.
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    1. Re:Pop goes the power supply. by Dougthebug · · Score: 4, Informative

      Usualy when a power supply blows its because of an overcharged capacator. Toms hardware had a review of a few dozen power supplies a few months back, he found that aparently alot of manufactures are overrating their supplies max wattage. Some of the blowouts he described sound pretty similar to what you mentioned (loud pop). Might want to see if your dead power supply was on his bad list.

  11. APC doesn't support open source by rossz · · Score: 3, Interesting
    APC doesn't release the communications protocals used in their UPSes, so they must be reverse engineered to work with NUT (Network UPS Tool). MGE UPS Systems fully supports open source, releasing all their protocals and even donating a few units to the developers. MGE does cost more, unfortunately, but at least they don't include the self-destruct feature found in some APC models.

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  12. Thermal overload?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    They don't have a thermal overload sensor?!? I had an old 1200VA (not APC) that was cooled by a fan. The fan only kicked in while it was on battery power or while it was charging (because it ran warmer during those periods). One night, the power went out and the fan didn't kick in. The UPS got hotter and hotter until...the thermal switch tripped and the unit shut down.

  13. What if I don't want to return it? by bonsai_kitty · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think I *could* give it to my boss.... Because I really do miss that nifty red StreamLine stapler he stole (mumbles something).

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  14. Time to by stock in shipping companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What is the shipping charge for weight of 2.1 million UPS units? Both directions...

    Yikes...

  15. Best Power does... by kuroth · · Score: 3, Informative

    Best Power publishes their pinouts and protocols, in addition to making a very nice UPS.

    Their products are also bundled with power management software that works just peachily on a Linux box.

    We've had a Patriot Pro in place on our production machine for a year or so now, absolutely no complaints.

    1. Re:Best Power does... by AWhistler · · Score: 2, Informative

      The problem with BEST UPS's is that if the power goes out long enough for the unit to shut down after draining the battery, the UPS will remain off even when the power is restored. An IT guy here said that he got a sick feeling when he walked in the next morning and his server room was eerily quiet.

      Apparently nobody noticed though, since he didn't get paged!

  16. Can't miss 'em.... by djupedal · · Score: 2, Funny

    black smoke...bad smell....some flames.... Shreiking secretaries running away from the source of all this combustion. You'll know them when you see them.

    jokes aside...me thinks you should visit the manuf. website, and learn how to read S/N/s :) - I'm sure your new-found dedication to safety will be appreciated by all concerned.

  17. UPS for Dummies � by Zelph · · Score: 2, Insightful

    'Was checking their press announcement and found this quote: "APC recommends that the user immediately remove the UPS unit from service by turning off all connected equipment, turning the UPS unit off, and then unplugging the unit from the electrical outlet." Umm... really, if you own a UPS and you need that information, you shouldn't own a computer, let alone an UPS.

  18. Just Great by merauder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I just happend to have one here at home, matching serial number and everything. Since their server seems to be also melted at the moment, what exactly is involved in shipping these back? Are the shipping charges refunded, do I go through the retailer I purchased it from? *sigh*

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    ..and knowing is half the battle.

    1. Re:Just Great by Cipster · · Score: 2, Informative

      To learn more about the recall action and the process for replacing the affected units, users should visit www.apc.com or call 866 APC-RELY (866 272-7359).
      You could try their ironically spelled phone number. My guess is though you will have to go through 7 menus and wait on hold for a while before you can actually talk to someone. Good luck

    2. Re:Just Great by Mark+Shewmaker · · Score: 2, Interesting
      To learn more about the recall action and the process for replacing the affected units, users should visit www.apc.com or call 866 APC-RELY (866 272-7359).

      You could try their ironically spelled phone number.

      You mean perhaps the ironic spelling of 866-ARCS-FLY? :-)

      As an aside, does anyone know of any very small (in size, va rating, and cost) ups's that have both serial and usb connections, spacing for 2 transformers plus 1 non-transformer plug, avr of some sort, separate phone line and ethernet surge protection built in, (that is, you can plug in a phone line and an ethernet connection at the same time), have some sort of smart signaling ("line power down and battery low--you better shut down now"; "okay, give me 2 minutes, then shut off my power whether or not wall power has come up, and keep me shut down until you've had reliable power for a while"), *and* that are properly documented by the manufacturer and work with some sort of open source ups software under linux?

      I'm finding it hard to find any ups's that meet even half of those criterion, much less all of them.

    3. Re:Just Great by Mark+Shewmaker · · Score: 2, Insightful
      That's a lot of stuff... holy cow...

      And I'm not trying to flame or be rude with this comment... bear with me... but why do you need ethernet surge protection? In my situation I have 2 lines run out to the garage (detached) so I can play drums/guitar etc, but they're buried deep (6 feet) and grounded....

      I've always wondered if surge protection would help....

      It's for a bunch of different machines set up at client locations. Your ethernet cables might be burried 6 feet deep, but theirs could be wrapped around a lightning rod somewhere for all I know.

      BTW the need for both phone and ethernet surge protection is because I'll be using phone lines as a backup for data syncs, if my client's network is down, or if they don't have a network.

      The dual surge protection requirement is one of the less serious requirements--you can always buy an additional phone line/ethernet surge protection wall-wart type of thing to cover for one or the other not being there--but it's kind of ugly.

      However, the big thing for me is to make sure the UPS behavior actually really does work correctly. For instance, if the UPS looses power and goes battery-low, and the system shuts down but the power comes back on during the shutdown process, the UPS had better still cut power for a short while, so the machines have an actual powerloss and then poweron to start them up again. Not every ups and software combination does this correctly all the time.

  19. Best URL by breser · · Score: 4, Informative

    As usual slashdot provides the worst URL for the story. The URL in the story is simply the press release. This is their main site about it, has much better information about how to identify if your UPS is part of the recall... and links to a nice FAQ. Of course I'm still wondering what type of unit they will replace mine with.

    1. Re:Best URL by lostchicken · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...one made out of asbestos...
      A whole new way of enforcing "no user serviceable parts inside".

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  20. I have a different model which also melted by darkwhite · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Funny, I have a Back-UPS Office 280 that also melted like this. Apparently it blew a thermistor. At first I thought the smell was from my 30-year-old amplifier, but after some spectacular pyrotechnics and a small blackout, it became apparent that it was indeed the UPS which was sitting right behind it.

    Granted, there was somewhere between 1x and 1.5x its rated capacity plugged into it, but still, a properly designed unit should either turn off or withstand such abuse.

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  21. Getting the serial number via Linux by breser · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you have apcupsd setup and the cable hooked up you can use the following command to find out your serial number:
    apcaccess | grep SERIALNO

  22. Well looks like I have one of them... by hyperactiveman · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just checked the CS 500 under my desk and sure enough mine is one of the ones in the recall.

    Here's the more detailed page with instructions to finding out if your's is one of them.

    And the recall instructions I got once I registered my UPS.

    Looks like all they are doing is replacing the "dangerous" unit with a "safe" unit of the same model, as they ask you to remove the battery from the recall unit and reuse it in the replacement unit.

    I was kinda hoping to get a fresh battery with this recall. But then this does save them a hell lot in shipping considering how heavy the batteries are. With 2.1 million unit, every ounce saved amounts to quite a bit of money.

    Hopefully I get a replacement soon, power at my apartment sucks.

  23. Re:Funny name? by Textbook+Error · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nothing tops when Apple had to recall those PowerBooks shipped with bad batteries.

    The 5300 may have been a crappy PowerBook, however they were never recalled due to batteries - 2 battery units overheated (neither caught fire) whilst being tested at Apple, and none of the problem Sony batteries were ever shipped to customers. An extended warranty (9 years IIRC) program was introduced to handle other problems with this model - the screen hinges were lousy, the plastics would often split, and there were was a rash of models with bad motherboards.

    Unfortunately it's become an urban legend that Apple shipped some kind of burning PowerBook - but they didn't. You must be thinking of Compaq (had to recall 55,000 batteries from their Armada laptops), Dell (about 30,000 batteries from the Latitude and Inspiron models), or IBM (about 220,000 ThinkPad power adapters).

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  24. WAY TO BE COMPLETELY WRONG!!!!! by Phosphor3k · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here is a link to the signaling daemon which is completely open source, works with all their serial APCs and has bee out since october of 1999. http://www.apc.com/tools/download/software_comp.cf m?sw_sku=SDW32&os_list=Linux

    1. Re:WAY TO BE COMPLETELY WRONG!!!!! by rossz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Try to get the protocol information for one of their USB models. You can't. They may have been open about their models in the past, but not anymore.

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  25. Re:Maybe this explains why ... by cpct0 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually...

    If you do read the tech sheet on SmartUPSes, you'll see it's not what you think.

    What you wrote is precisely describing how a BackUPS works. The battery power stays dormant until there is a power loss. Then, it kicks in and with only a minor glitch, it gives you fairly rounded sinewave voltage.

    SmartUPS is not the same. Technically, when you plug in a SmartUPS, all your power cord does is charge the battery. Everything plugged on your SmartUPS gets its current from the battery, which is really decently sine-waved.

    That way, you don't suffer from minor brownouts, 1/100th secs spikes, voltage variation or anything else. The current sent to your devices is precise and regular.

    Drawback: you have to change your batteries more often, as they are constantly being used.

    There is a warranty for precisely these things. APC's one is really great. Simply the fact that you didn't even tried to send them in before buying one makes me feel like this story is a complete troll. I haven't heard from anyone having problems with APC, and they did save my day more than once.

    Have a nice day
    Mike

  26. UPS causes huge losses by egabber · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A few months ago, an APC UPS cost me everything I own in a huge blaze that almost destroyed my whole neighborhood. The fire fighters were able to pinpoint the starting point to my office/desk area and concluded the UPS as a possible ignition source. There was no load on the UPS at the time but it was plugged in with the inverter inside running. Its burning feeble plastic case ignited nearby paperwork and the rest was history. Gone were my home, all my possisions, years of art and software design. Most importantly was my beloved Great Dane Dirk whom I will never forget. I am still paying his medical bills on the attempts to save him. I hope the idiots that saved a few dollars by using a flammable plastic case instead of sheet metal will be made to pay for the losses of me and others. I am in Talent Oregon.

  27. You're not alone - this is serious. by rebelcool · · Score: 2, Interesting
    i emailed this to my father, at his company they have one of these on nearly every workstation. He emailed back that 2 weeks ago one of his employee's homes burned down, and the UPS is the suspected culprit.

    A few months ago in that very same office one of the UPS's begin emitting a high pitched whistle from within (described as a 'tea kettle' sound), likely very hot gases escaping.

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  28. Re:8 out of a couple million... by egabber · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Expect 8 to change to thousands now that the light is on this. I lost everything I own (house, pet, office, belongings) to that poorly designed plastic UPS only a few months ago. I'm sure the company would love to have you believe that only 8 have torched. Just count how many reports are on Slashdot today.