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Psychologist Consoles Data Loss Victims

(ok.whatever) writes "A former suicide prevention counselor is employed full-time by a data recovery firm to console its callers. The San Francisco Chronicle reports: 'When the company receives a call from someone who's clearly lost it -- which can happen several times an hour -- Chessin comes on the line to help the caller rediscover their happy place.' Good grief!"

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  1. It's definitely a good idea by strider44 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Abuse can be dished out to lines like that very easily, and it's definitely a good idea to have a councellor there in case. It can be important data as well, maybe losing their job for it can make them fall into depression

    Also people who have "lost it" generally look to someone to talk to, and maybe a tech support guy can help?

    On the whole I can't see any bad coming from it!

  2. Re:It does hurt! by HowlinMad · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Dude,

    I'm not saying I told you so, but backup your important stuff man. I'll be the first to admit I don't backup stuff like I should, and maybe I've been lucky. I'd have to say, if I lost everything, I wouldn't be happy, but I know its replaceable. Stuff I know I need to keep is burned on a CD. Sure, that could be scratched, broken, etc, but not likely, cause it jsut ists there.

    I feel for you tho, I really do. Its a hard way to learn a lesson, but I bet you learned it.

    Later.

  3. A Big Impact by pgrote · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everyone knows the old rule of backup, but sometimes you lose that data. Through too many hard drive switches, unexpected upgrades or whatever.

    A friend of mine was storing a PBX generated WAV file his mother's voice. It was one of the last times she called his office before she died. During an upgrade the file was lost. The guy just fell to pieces. That WAV file was an emotional security blanket for him ... a way to remember his mother.

    There are jokes about losing porn or MP3s files on this topic, but think about it. How much of your life is in the bits and bytes on your server(s). Maybe it's the pics of your graduation. Maybe it's the thesis you struggled to complete. Maybe it's the love note from your future spouse after you first met.

    You're keeping the data for an emotional reason. It makes sense that when you lose that data you're going to be affected.

    1. Re:A Big Impact by Arsewiper · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I remember someone describing the worst thing about a house fire is losing all your family photos - everything else is just stuff you can replace. As digital photography becomes more and more prevalent it subtly makes our photographic records less durable.

      Support for people suffering any kind of loss is important, and if it reduces stress in the workplace then it's worth it.

    2. Re:A Big Impact by redneck_kiwi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What I don't understand is why is it that suddenly, any "bad" thing and out come the "grief counselors". What happened to us as a society that we suddenly cannot cope with bad things happening without having a counselor to talk with? Back in my younger years, we dealt with it!

    3. Re:A Big Impact by Tomster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In the old days, "just deal with it" meant burying it -- whether it was grief, rage, whatever. You just buried the feelings and got on with your life.

      Now, we've swung the pendulum the other direction. We're so super-sensitive to "trauma" we exaggerate tragedies way out of proportion. And we try to prevent our kids from experiencing any, which only makes them unable to deal with it as adults.

      Counselors offer a way for people to work through a loss or other trauma. So do friends, family, ministers, etc.

      Suffering is a part of life. It should neither be swept under the rug nor exaggerated.

      -Thomas

  4. Re:It does hurt! by chrome · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are a wise man.

    The easiest way to not get upset at losing data is not to care about it that much.

    Back up what is important to you, sure, and if your disk melts, shrug, thank the gods you still have your good health, re-install and keep going.

    Agonizing over lost data is pointless ...

    But then, I never was one to cry over spilt milk.

  5. Computerization of our personal lives by Lythic · · Score: 4, Insightful
    As more and more information becomes purely digital, data loss is going to be increasingly disastrous in people's lives. A computer crash could erase several years of scientific research data, the letters you treasure from late family members, all of your personal phone and e-mail contacts, top this off by the stress and frustration, and you can have a major disaster. Sure, you can blame them for not backing up, but there's very few of us who haven't suffered a similar accident.

    If you've ever seen someone lose a term paper, multiply that intensity by several times and you can understand how suddenly a tech support person needs to switch to being a counselor, and since many can't do both jobs, it's really good to have someone else on hand. A suicide counselor may be a bit of overkill, but having someone trained at handling very upset and stressed individuals is a really good idea. This is the wave of the future.....

  6. Re:The world is full of idiots by forkboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People who lose mp3s and photos aren't generally the type to send their systems to a data recovery center. Do you have any idea what those places cost? No, there's a good reason for having a counselor type there....the kind of people that send their hard drives to them are the kind that are DESPERATE to recover their data for whatever reason...and they could probably use the help.

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  7. Backup? Who wants backup? by mseeger · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Hi,

    nobody is interested in backups. What everyone wants are restores. There is a fine but crucial distinction between both terms. If you don't see it, continue backing up your data on the same DAT tape you've been using for years ;-). I think the counselor can tell a lot about people who did frequent backups and now had to do their first restore.

    Yours, Martin

  8. Its tough... by powerlinekid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What do you say to someone who kept all of the 25 slide powerpoint presentation, that they've been working on for a month and is due to tommow, on a floppy disk that goes bad? It sucks. You want to say:
    "You're an idiot. Why the hell didn't you back it up?
    But what really comes out:
    "I'm very sorry, floppys are so horrible. If you look at them funny they stop woring. Make sure to email files to yourself. Again, I'm sorry".

    I work tech support at a state school and I can't even count the number of students who have started crying. Its gone down in recent years because our admins finally decided to backup/autosave all Microsoft Word (which is one ofthe problems to begin with) documents on every public computer at the school (which is quite a lot) on a file server. That way if the student is in a lab for a few hours and gets a "Word has experienced a problem, your file will be lost" message they can come to the help desk and we can recover whatever was saved. Its really a life saver sometimes (students tend to do stupid stuff when they lose their big paper).

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  9. Re:Change a suicidal mind in less than half an hou by octalgirl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can apply a sociological solution (suicide counseling) to a technical problem (hard drive crash).

    Well actually, yes! I'm sure a lot of here have noticed, that when we get people over their fear of technology, their fear of being stupid or breaking it, it is much easier to train/teach them. I have always said, for all I do in tech, that what I do best is hold hands. Let's think about it - if you are in any type of help/admin/trouble/design - when someone calls you they are already in distress. They may have spent who knows how long, so afraid of looking stupid, trying to fix it themselves, making things worse. I have watched grown men pull their hair out, and have had women hug me and cry on my shoulder (real tears!), because they had worked hard all week and lost it all. Before I can do anything for them, I need to calm them down. Sometimes I make them take a break, not to worry, I'll do the best I can - I sound like a doctor half the time. When I train others, I always pass this on - which to me is a most important step. I make a lot friends too, and good word always makes it to the top.

    I know others who take a different, very condensending approach, and they really piss me off. But they become hated by those that dared ask for help. And as arrogant as they are, as they look down at the 'fools who broke something' they don't even realize that they make themselves look bad, like they are the ones who really don't know what they are doing.

  10. Data loss stress by Gary+Franczyk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't think the majority of posters here realize how stressful a major data loss can be, especially if the person calling is responsible in some way for the data.

    Lets say that you admin a set of servers for a site of 1000 people and you have a major data catastrophe. If you are calling a data storage/recovery firm like Iron Mountain/Arcus to get a copy of your latest off-site duplicate backups.

    If the failure has gotten to this point, it means that your on-site backups have failed or have been destroyed and that you may have several Terabytes of data to recover, since you can afford the services of a company like this.

    Think about this:
    - You are the one being paid to keep the systems up and available and this isn't happening.
    - There are around 1000 people that will not be able to work until the data is restored and brought on-line. This can be days or even weeks depending on the size of the failure.

    So now, not only are you possibly going to lose your job, but there is a possibility of many more people losing thier only source of income. Its frightening. The failure may have been something you could have prevented. It may have even precipitated from some your actions. (oops, I didn't mean 'rm -rf /'... or oops, I forgot that I left my coffee on top of the EMC)

    Gary

  11. Re:It does hurt! by ortholattice · · Score: 3, Insightful
    My data indicates that the lifetime of a CD is drastically shorter if at any point they are exposed to kids. Even if you train kids to handle them properly, CDs still get corrupted inexplicably by imaginary playmates and fairies.

    When switching to a new computer I observed that only about half of my son's old games could be installed. Some of these seemed to be corrupted data problems, so I tried to make fresh copies - only about 30% could be copied. A resurfacing kit helped only a few a them. I finally pinned down the problem: miniscule, barely visible scratches on the TOP of the CD. CDs seem to be relatively immune to bottom scratches, but scratches on the label are fatal - even the tiniest, if it penetrates the ink at all, will permanently destroy the data with no possible recovery.

    Our new policy of course is to copy any CD as soon as purchased and safely store away the original. That is, IF they can be copied - the new copy protection stuff worries me. And how about DVDs, and in particular XBox DVDs? Am I supposed to put a child-lock on the XBox and constantly be interrupted when he wants to switch CDs?

  12. Re:Change a suicidal mind in less than half an hou by carlos_benj · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would have thought that potential suicides would need much more help than that in the short-/immediate-term.

    And you would be correct in that assumption. The problem is you're confusing a temporary reprieve with a more permanent solution. It's one thing to talk someone out of an attempt at suicide at a given point in time and quite another to get to the root causes and change the thinking patterns that lead to those thoughts of suicide.

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  13. Re:New Motto for the 21st century? by urbazewski · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This line appeared in the acknowledgements of my PhD thesis, as advice to my 'comrades' (other grad students in my advisor's research group):
    The road to revolution is paved with hard disk failures -- always make a back-up copy
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