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Better Bandwidth Utilization

jtorin writes "Daniel Hartmeier (of OpenBSD fame) has written a short but interesting article which explains how to better utilize available bandwidth. In short it gives priority to TCP ACKs over other types of traffic, thereby making it possible to max both upload and download bandwidth simultaenously. Be sure to check ot the nice graphs! Also note the article on OpenBSD Journal. OpenBSD 3.3 beta is now stable enough for daily use, so why not download a snapshot from one of the mirrors and try it out?"

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  1. How ironic by JPDeckers · · Score: 4, Funny

    How ironic, an article about better utilizing available bandwidth, and already /.-ed with 0 comments. Guess bandwidth is utilized now.

    1. Re:How ironic by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Funny

      Guess we better implement this idea without any delay, then!

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    2. Re:How ironic by Xformer · · Score: 2, Funny

      What do you expect? It's on an island, after all... :-)

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  2. How to better utilize bandwidth by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Funny

    rule 1: don't put an article in slashdot pointing to your site

  3. Oh, that's where OpenBSD is... by dereklam · · Score: 4, Funny
    Thanks for linking to OpenBSD... I was wondering what that whole BSD thing was!

    Now if only I could find that Linux thing...

    1. Re:Oh, that's where OpenBSD is... by JRHelgeson · · Score: 2, Funny
      No, if you're looking for THE BEST Linux around, forget SuSe - Red Hat is a Joke!

      This is where you need to go to get your Linux Desktop Replacement!

      Regards,

      Joel

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  4. like wondershaper does for months now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:like wondershaper does for months now? by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wondershaper uses other approach, like having a scheduler and (de)prioritize certain ports and hosts . I think that right now it not specially prioritize TCP ack, and, well, that could improve the good job what do wondershaper right now if it works.

    2. Re:like wondershaper does for months now? by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Informative

      Second revisions are always better. It prioritizes small packets (of less of 64 bytes), and I suppose that this include ACKs :)

    3. Re:like wondershaper does for months now? by Captain+Pedantic · · Score: 5, Interesting

      From the Wondershaper script:

      # To speed up downloads while an upload is going on, put ACK packets in
      # the interactive class:


      tc filter add dev $DEV parent 1: protocol ip prio 12 u32 \
      match ip protocol 6 0xff \
      match u8 0x05 0x0f at 0 \
      match u16 0x0000 0xffc0 at 2 \
      match u8 0x10 0xff at 33 \
      flowid 1:10

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    4. Re:like wondershaper does for months now? by stratjakt · · Score: 4, Informative

      And from the explanation in the readme:

      "To make sure that uploads don't hurt downloads,
      we also move ACK packets to the front of the queue."

      It's pretty cool, it throttles your speeds to just under what the maximum should be, so that queueing will only happen on your linux box, and then you can prioritize what you want.

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    5. Re:like wondershaper does for months now? by spydir31 · · Score: 4, Informative
      better version, I think
      tc filter add dev $DEV parent 1:0 prio 10 u32 \
      match ip protocol 6 0xff \
      match u8 0x10 0x10 at nexthdr+13 \
      flowid 1:10
  5. This will be of most use to ... by adzoox · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I think this may be of most use to two way satellite connections and maybe to service providers - however; I don't see how one can get much faster than a cable modem or DSL connection - the internet comes through at the same bandwidth and speed whether I am wireless or T1 or cable modem/DSL - this is the majority of network traffic nowadays

    Corporate networks are already optimized under 100 or gigabit ethernet with Cisco routers which automatically handle collisions and error corrections.

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    1. Re:This will be of most use to ... by arkanes · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you have a non-shaped asynchronous connection, like most forms of DSL and cable, it's pretty easy to cap out your upstream. When you do that, your downstream goes through the floor because your ACKs don't get through. This just says that if your routers prioritize ACKs, your downstream will still be fine even if your upstream is saturated. This isn't exactly new, my cable ISP already does this.

  6. We figured this before by Thijssss · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually ever since my isp changed from A2000 to Chello we had the same problem as this guy has with his download being killed by his upload, a few months ago me and some friends figured the same solution but we had no idea how to actually do it on a windows based machine, anyone with a idea?

  7. The problem is by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 2, Interesting

    some P2P software will start distributing a "P2P accelerator" which marks all packets as ACKs.

    1. Re:The problem is by The+Evil+Couch · · Score: 4, Informative

      it's a possible way to game the system, however they can also ignore what the packets are marked as and just boost the priority of the smaller packets, which are almost always system messages. if the bump up everything under 64 bytes, then they'd get the same effect, but without the possibility of someone cheating the system like that. though I'm pretty sure someone else has already done that.

  8. Interesting by Ec|ipse · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was able to read up to the results section due to being /.'d but what I have read was quite interesting. I like the idea of prioritizing which packets go out first by what their intent is rather then everything goes out and fights for the bandwidth.

  9. Linux solution by eddy · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Linux Advanced Routing & Traffic Control HOWTO discuss how to achieve the same thing on linux using QoS. See section 9.2.2.2(Sample configuration)

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    1. Re:Linux solution by pe1rxq · · Score: 5, Informative

      No it doesn't....
      It is a differend solution to a different problem caused by the same thing....

      The cause is the big cache in the modem, it results in a delay on outgoing traffic.
      One problem is that interactive traffic gets, well, less interactive (e.g. the echo characters in a remote shell have a delay). This is solved in the HOWTO you refered to.
      Another problem is that the downstream acks get delayed resulting in less downstream data. This is solved in the mentioned article.

      A combination of the two would be really great and could probably be done in both linux and openbsd.

      Jeroen

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    2. Re:Linux solution by grub · · Score: 2, Insightful


      Who needs BSD?

      People that love UNIX. The Finnish hack is for people that hate Microsoft.

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  10. My solution: by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny


    Put lower priorities on p0rn, MP3s, Windows viruses, and Slashdot referrals. That should speed everything else up by about two orders of magnitude.

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    1. Re:My solution: by radish · · Score: 5, Funny

      What is this "everything else" of which you speak?

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  11. Note the article is all about low bandwidth setups by jj_johny · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Daniel has done some good work in micromanaging the available bandwidth to make sure that ACKs get through to minimize retransmits due to drops as well as other causes. When you look at low bandwidth links the time in queue and to transmit can be much bigger than the near instananious transmission times that you expect on high capacity lines.

    A little off topic but I always find it interesting that people with hicap gear (Foundry, Cisco, etc.) are always talking about QOS when it really only makes sense most times on low bandwidth lines. So his work is really important when you look at where it is in scheme of things - out at the end users line.

  12. Very Usefull by volts · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is a really useful pointer to a very simple optimization. We've recently replaced our SonicWall firewalls with OpenBSD, so using ALTQ will be really straightforward. I wonder how easy it is to accomplish on Linux.

  13. Is this related to another article? by vasqzr · · Score: 3, Funny
  14. Daniels original email by blkwolf · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can find Daniels original email on the subject at:
    http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-pf&m= 10463 0260218727

    It contains a little more of the pf rules than the article does, and has all the relevant information you need except for the nice /.'d graphs

  15. Trip down memory lane... by eldimo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ahhh... That bring down memories of the infamous ZModem protocol that was widely used in warez BBSs. There was a rule that said "you need to upload if you want to download". Therefore, the fastest way to get a software would be to upload at the same time as the download. The funny thing is that the synchronization was done by hand. Meaning that you needed to see the download caracter at the screen, to start uploading. If you miss by a couple of seconds, you could not get the synchronization right, and had to start over.

    1. Re:Trip down memory lane... by Surak · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ummm...

      A) Zmodem is still around, at least in the *nix world. You can get lrzsz from here.
      Some telnet clients still support Zmodem, and you can use lrzsz to transfer files via telnet. Personally, I'd rather use ssh as it's a lot more secure, but in cases where either you can only use telnet or when you are on network you can trust (i.e., not the Internet), you can still use Zmodem.

      b) Zmodem is not, nor has it ever been a bidirectional protocol -- you can't upload and download at the same time unless you have two different connections. There *were* protocols that would let you do this (Puma comes to mind), but you most decidedly could NOT do this with Zmodem.

    2. Re:Trip down memory lane... by teeker · · Score: 2, Informative

      Err... you must have Zmodem confused with something else..it was one way only. You are right about the widely used part though, and not ony warez boards but everywhere. In fact it was the only thing going in the later BBS days.

      Maybe puma or one of those oddball protocols are bidirectional, but that was pretty useless to warez runners back in the day, because everybody knows that real k-k00l warez runners use USRobotics Courier HST 9600 high-speed modems, and they were only fast in one direction. Real warez runners spit on v.32 modems...Ahhh the good old days ;-) Sorry for the OT folks...

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  16. Uh, no, I don't think so by somethingwicked · · Score: 4, Informative

    That "Intro to the Internet" class from college is a little hazy now, but I don't recall it being as simple as the "internet" coming out of the pipe like water.

    Someone far more knowledgable than myself will get to correct me, but I seem to recall there was a process of-

    Send some stuff-wait for ACK.

    When you get the ACK, send some more.

    By turbocharging the ACKs, you are reducing that lag time

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    1. Re:Uh, no, I don't think so by Patrick · · Score: 4, Informative
      Send some stuff-wait for ACK.

      When you get the ACK, send some more.

      By turbocharging the ACKs, you are reducing that lag time

      Not quite. TCP streams use pipelining: you send N packets (N is the "window size"), and each time you get an ACK you send one more. So in the ideal case there's no lag, because the ACK for packet 3 lets you go ahead and send packet 10 (if N=7).

      When a packet (or its ACK) gets dropped, TCP assumes the network is congested, and cuts N in half, and very slowly increases it back to where it was. So after each dropped packet or ACK you have a while during which you're not using the full link. Several drops in a row can reduce your throughput by a factor of 100 or more.

      Prioritizing ACKs doesn't reduce the lag time. It reduces the likelihood that TCP will overreact and reduce its sending rate due to perceived congestion.

    2. Re:Uh, no, I don't think so by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why design a stateless protocol and then put it on top of TCP, requiring a connection to be set up and torn down for each HTTP request?

      Because you want reliability. Unfortunately, reliable UDP (or transactional TCP) is not widely supported.

      Also, because many HTTP responses don't fit in a single UDP packet.

    3. Re:Uh, no, I don't think so by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you're only sending a single UDP packet, sure. But if you're exceeding the end to end bandwidth of the network, then clearly packets need to either be queued or dropped. If you're exceeding the maximum bandwidth by more than just a little, then you're going to fill up the buffers, and packets will get dropped.

      Without seeing the quote I'd only be speculating on what the textbook was talking about. Could be LANs, but it could be that they were talking about single UDP packets, rather than pounding a few megs of HTML and images all at once. Or maybe the quote was that UDP packets rarely get dropped for reasons other than congestion. Perhaps they could have been talking about packets that are mangled en route? That is something which could happen in theory but in reality rarely (if ever) happens.

      Of course, maybe I'm just wrong. It does happen from time to time :).

  17. .CX Domain by goldspider · · Score: 4, Funny

    Was I the only one who was a little apprehensive about clicking on a link from the .cx domain?

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  18. Security hole by sn0rt · · Score: 3, Funny

    Isn't there an attack that essentially floods a server with ACK's? Just wondering what effect that would have if ACK had priority over other traffic.

    Or maybe it was flooded with SYN's? Damn. I can't remember.

    1. Re:Security hole by Arethan · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's called SYN flooding. The idea is that a system only has so much memory to work with. Each established TCP session has memory overhead for packet ordering and split packet reassembly. Generally, when a system recienves a SYN packet, it assumes that the session is going to be valid, and it begins the process of completing the TCP session building, which happens to include setting aside some memory for session management.

      For each SYN packet you send, you eat up a little bit more memory and CPU time on the victim. Do it enough times, and the system runs out of memory or processor time, and the system becomes unable to perform its regular operations. Effectively causing a Denial of Service.

      If you're smart, you'll form the SYN packets to have source addresses that differ from your real IP, otherwise a) you're traceable; and b) your machine will be flooded with SYN/ACKS. If you are even smarter, you'll use an IP that, while valid and routable, belongs to a host that either doesn't exist, or is currently off. Otherwise the 2nd level victim recieving the SYN/ACKs from your initial target will send RSETs for every SYN/ACK, since it never requested to initial the connection. When your target gets the RSET for the SYN/ACK, it will close the session, freeing up the memory and CPU time that you are desparately trying to fill. Essentially, a non-existant host will never respond to a SYN/ACK, so the target system has to wait for a timeout duration before closing the session, which makes it easier for you to eat up CPU and memory. Unfortunately though, the fake spirce IP on your SYN packets will likely have to be within your ISP's network range, as all smart ISP network administrators perform egress packet filtering to prevent such attacks from originating within their network.

      Better tactics include sending the SYNs from multiple machines that have different providers. Thus preventing load from the SYN/ACKs from filling your ISPs pipe. This effectively makes the attack a DDoS, rather than a DoS.

      Either way, you can't really perform these attacks in much safety, as competent network administrators will have sniffers in place to detect these attacks as they cross their network. So #1) if your ISP admin is smart, you're busted by them regardless; and #2) if the chain of smart admins follows you all the way back to your sources, you're busted by the authorities (which if you cross state lines means the Feds, which will suck quite adamently).

      So, that is how it works, but I wouldn't recommend trying it.

  19. Slashdotted - Mirror by SILIZIUMM · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since the website seems slashdotted now I've set up a mirror. You can see it there.

  20. Try it by genka · · Score: 4, Funny


    "OpenBSD 3.3 beta is now stable enough for daily use, so why not download a snapshot from one of the mirrors and try it out?"


    Windows XP is now stable enough for daily use, so why not download a snapshot from one of the mirrors and try it out?"

    (intended as a joke)

  21. Broadband implications by Arethan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems to me that this could really help broadband providers supply a better service if this was implemented in the firmware of the modems and the headend equipment.

    Then again, since when have most broadband providers really ever cared about supplying good speeds when the user maxes out the outrageously capped upstream...

  22. Slashdotting and DOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    True enough.

    rule 2: Have a backup plan in case someone sends you a bunch of ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK to cause a denial of service.

  23. Title is correct! by DarkMan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Your correct, bandwidth is fixed. This is about better bandwidth utilisation.

    The article is /.ed but the gist is that if you consider a full duplex conection, and you max out one side of that, say uploads, then the ACK packets get swamped, so your downstrem bandwidth is spent re-transmitting, or empty whilst the other end is waiting for ACKs.

    The bandwidth is there, it;s just under utilised. By prioritisng the ACK's, so that they get boosted through, it becomes possible to saturate both upstream and downstream pipes at once, at peak efficency, rather than one of the coasting along, waithing for the other.

    Note that this only applies for TCP/IP and similar, reliable, protocols. If you had a UDP app (e.g. media streaming done properly), then this trick won't affect it at all, as it doesn't wait for an ACK.

  24. this may break TCP flow control! by mekkab · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If the acks are sped up, this interferes with TCP keeping track of the statistical average Round Trip Time.

    So if the network is congested and an ACK SHOULD time out but doesn't, TCP will keep on flooding the network, ruining the pool for everyone.(see: Tragedy of the commons)

    Yes, I agree that this is a big-O style worse case scenario, but its something to consider.

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    1. Re:this may break TCP flow control! by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 5, Informative

      So if the network is congested and an ACK SHOULD time out but doesn't, TCP will keep on flooding the network, ruining the pool for everyone.

      No. If the downstream is flooded, the packets won't be received, and no ACK will be sent. ACKs have higher priority, but even that can't make them appear out of thin air.

  25. Re: Kinda been done with TFTP by somethingwicked · · Score: 2, Informative

    Again, to the best of my recollection, what you are suggesting is similar to the TFTP and many streaming techniques approach:

    Take FTP and strip the overhead error checking and if something doesn't come out right, refresh and download it again.

    For streaming, you get more throughput, and every now and them you might miss a frame in exchange for the higher quality you can obtain with the lower overhead

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  26. W. Richard Stevens TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1 by puzzled · · Score: 5, Informative



    It seems to me that a great many /. readers have a cursory knowledge of how TCP/IP works. This is true of almost every other topic and I don't have a generalized solution for ignorance, but in this case a quick read of the first volume of Stevens' excellent TCP/IP Illustrated Series should do the trick.

    Reading that book will give you a foundation to understanding how a single endpoint behaves in an IP network. If you want some understanding of the guts of a large scale internetwork I'd suggest the Cisco Press IP Quality of Service book.

    There are a great many things near and dear to /. reader's hearts - the god given right to steal music by treating a retail DSL/Cable connection like a dedicated wholesale circuit being the prime example - that are more easily understood after a read of these two books.

    If you're impatient you can look at my journal - I've covered some of the issues there.

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  27. TCP Daytona by Patrick · · Score: 3, Informative
    send pre-emptive ACKs before you get the data, right about when they would be expected.

    The technique you suggest is one of several proposed by Stefan Savage in TCP Congestion Control with a Misbehaving Receiver. He called it TCP Daytona. :)

  28. are there any floppy based routers that do this? by Freqdog · · Score: 2, Interesting

    looking to replace my hddless router with package that utilizes the same concept or is there any hardware cable routers that do bandwidth shaping?

  29. Server got /.'ed before 0 comments... by JRHelgeson · · Score: 4, Informative
    For the benefit of all: The follwing is the article in its entirity - sans the graphics which can be seen at: (provided the servers are working)

    http://www.benzedrine.cx/ackpri-norm.jpg
    http://www.benzedrine.cx/ackpri-priq.jpg

    benzedrine.cx - Prioritizing empty TCP ACKs with pf and ALTQ Prioritizing empty TCP ACKs with pf and ALTQ

    Introduction ALTQ is a framework to manage queueing disciplines on network interfaces. It manipulates output queues to enforce bandwidth limits and priorize traffic based on classification.

    While ALTQ was part of OpenBSD and has been enabled by default since several releases, the next release will merge the ALTQ and pf configuration into a single file and let pf assign packets to queues. This both simplifies the configuration and greatly reduces the cost of queue assignment.

    This article presents a simple yet effective example of what the pf/ALTQ combination can be used for. It's meant to illustrate the new configuration syntax and queue assignment. The code used in this example is already available in the -current OpenBSD source branch.

    Problem I'm using an asymmetric DSL with 512 kbps downstream and 128 kbps upstream capacity (minus PPPoE overhead). When I download, I get transfer rates of about 50 kB/s. But as soon as I start a concurrent upload, the download rate drops significantly, to about 7 kB/s.

    Explanation Even when a TCP connection is used to send data only in one direction (like when downloading a file through ftp), TCP acknowledgements (ACKs) must be sent in the opposite direction, or the peer will assume that its packets got lost and retransmit them. To keep the peer sending data at the maximum rate, it's important to promptly send the ACKs back.

    When the uplink is saturated by other connections (like a concurrent upload), all outgoing packets get delayed equally by default. Hence, a concurrent upload saturating the uplink causes the outgoing ACKs for the download to get delayed, which causes the drop in the download throughput.

    Solution The outgoing ACKs related to the download are small, as they don't contain any data payload. Even a fast download saturating the 512 kbps downstream does not require more than a fraction of upstream bandwidth for the related outgoing ACKS.

    Hence, the idea is to priorize TCP ACKs that have no payload. The following pf.conf fragment illustrates how to set up the queue definitions and assign packets to the defined queues:

    ext_if="kue0"

    altq on $ext_if priq bandwidth 100Kb queue { q_pri, q_def }
    queue q_pri priority 7
    queue q_def priority 1 priq(default)

    pass out on $ext_if proto tcp from $ext_if to any flags S/SA \
    keep state queue (q_def, q_pri)

    pass in on $ext_if proto tcp from any to $ext_if flags S/SA \
    keep state queue (q_def, q_pri)
    First, a macro is defined for the external interface. This makes it easier to adjust the ruleset when the interface changes.

    Next, altq is enabled on the interface using the priq scheduler, and the upstream bandwidth is specified.
    I'm using 100 kbps instead of 128 kbps as this is the real maximum I can reach (due to PPPoE encapsulation overhead). Some experimentation might be needed to find the best value. If it's set too high, the priority queue is not effective, and if it's set too low, the available bandwidth is not fully used.
    Then, two queues are defined with (arbitrary) names q_pri and q_def. The queue with the lower priority is made the default.

    Finally, the rules passing the relevant connections (statefully) are extended to specify what queues to assign the matching packets to. The first queue specified in the parentheses is used for all packets by default, while the second (and optional) queue is used for packets with ToS (type of service) 'lowdelay' (for instance interactive ssh sessions) and TCP ACKs without payload.

    Both incoming and outgoing TCP connections will pass by those two rules, create state, and all packets related to the connections will be assigned to either the q_def or q_pri queues. Packets assigned to the q_pri queue will have priority and will get sent before any pending packets in the q_def queue.

    Result The following test was performed first without and then with the ALTQ rules explained above:

    • -10 to -8 minutes: idle
    • -8 to -6 minutes: download only
    • -6 to -4 minutes: concurrent download and upload
    • -4 to -2 minutes: upload only
    • -2 to 0 minutes: idle

    The first graphs shows the results of the test without ALTQ, and the second one with ALTQ:

    Image 1, ACK PRI Normal

    Image 2, ACK PRI PRIq

    The improvement is quite significant, the saturated uplink no longer delays the outgoing empty ACKs, and the download rate doesn't drop anymore.

    This effect is not limited to asymmetric links, it occurs whenever one direction of the link is saturated. With an asymmetric link this occurs more often, obviously.

    Related links

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  30. Not just low bandwidth by TFloore · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Though you might see more effects of this on a low bandwidth link, it is not just for low bandwidth.

    A fair number of protocols do transmit windows of a certain size. They'll send a certain amount of data, and not send more data until the oldest packest in the window gets an ACK back. You therefore only have so much data "in-flight" at any one time. Strongly asynchronous link (like aDSL and cablemodems) can require strikingly different window sizes than synchronous links.

    The right amount of in-flight data is dependent on the speed of your pipe, obviously, but a lot of applications still use defaults set for low-bandwidth pipes. You can argue that the proper solution for this is to change the defaults, but if you just give ACKs priority, you don't need to worry about it, and the less you force users to change, the better. (The transmit window size has to be a user setting, directly or indirectly, either by asking a window size, or by asking "what kind of pipe do you have?" and guessing a window size from that.)

    This is dependent on the protocol, true, but giving ACKs priority is actually a decent generic solution to what many consider an application-specific problem.

    QOS is also often about bandwidth guarantees, not necessarily throughput. You have a 155mbit link shared among several applications, and an application that *requires* 45mbit. So you use QOS to guarantee that application gets 45mbit if it wants it, and everything else shares the remainder. If the app isn't going, then that 45mbit it requires can be made available to other apps until it is required.

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  31. Re:Note the article is all about low bandwidth set by meridian-gh · · Score: 2, Informative
    It's really useful for things like Frame Relay WANs, where you can get mixed and matched speeds all over the place.

    For example, I have the equivilent of a T1 (1.544mb CIR Frame) going to Qwest. From Qwest, I have a 256k CIR Frame link going to a remote office.

    When the office sends data to me, it's fine. When I send back, there are massive amounts of Red Frames. Dropped packets means re-transmits which means delay. Delay is bad when you are running an interactive application over these links. Think of a garden hose connected to a fire hydrant. The garden hose could dump water into the fire hydrant fine (assuming the water for the hydrant is turned off elsewhere...). When the fire hydrant turns on, however...

    Now I have QoS maps based off of the DLCI for each office, so it throttles back our link to Qwest to match the remote connection, so everyone talks happily, instead of blasting the little link into oblivion. Now, Red Frames aren't seen very often, unless the Qwest circuit is saturated, and we get chopped back to our base CIR. It makes a difference. Not a huge one, but a noticeable difference.

    Traffic Shaping is your friend. It's all about making the mose efficient use of what you have. (Or making sure that you still have bandwidth when your roommate is leeching gigs of pr0n...) M

  32. How does this compare to a DDR Fairness? by Froqen · · Score: 4, Informative

    Windows XP uses a DDR Fairness technique to solve the same problem, I wonder how the two techniques compare?
    See "QoS for Modems and Remote Access" at this KB article.

  33. Re:So, how to do this on freebsd by Ded+Bob · · Score: 2, Informative

    RTM :) Specifically, dummynet is the part that does queueing.

    I just need to find out how to do this with ipf instead of ipfw.

  34. Same concept for WANs by golo · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've heard that this guys have implemented the same idea as one of the trick they use in their traffic shaping/QoS products. They're for WAN links IIRC so that any client (in the remote sites) can take advanatge of it.

  35. Working Link by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Honest, I'm not Karma-whoring, it just ticks me off.

    link

    --
    My God, it's Full of Source!
    OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
  36. ACK Shaping by nimrod_me · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is what is known today as "ACK traffic shaping". First on the market, I believe, was packeteer (www.packeteer.com) with their PacketShaper.

    Unlike most conventional traffic shapers which queue and control the data rate on the outgoing channel, PacketShaper controls the rate of acknowledgements on the reverse channel.

    This is usually used to *slow* traffic. I.e., instead of having the router drop packets (thereby wasting resources until the source TCP understands that the net is congested and reduces load) it just slows the ACKs and the sender automatically reduces its sending rate.

    Anyway, the real nice thing about the OpenBSD implementation is that they merge their packet filter (pf) with the ALTQ queuing code. Now this is really powerful.

    Sounds like a good time for all BSDs to adopt this new combination instead of relying on less-capable mechanisms. E.g. FreeBSD has ipfw for filtering and dummynet for queue management. I don't know how pf compares with ipfw but ALTQ is definitely better than dummynet.

    Nimrod.

  37. throttled by zquestz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just in case you don't run openbsd or linux (wondershaper) and are looking for ack packet priority, you can get throttled from http://www.intrarts.com/throttled.html and have the same functionality for Mac OS X and freebsd. It is great to see this information finally getting out to the public, as it does offer significant improvements in network performance.