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Distros To Try: Slackware 9.0-rc1 And Yoper 1.0
FrosGate writes "Slackware 9.0-rc1 is now available for public consumption over at www.slackware.com. From the site: 'Some of the main components included are the 2.4.20 Linux kernel, KDE 3.1, GNOME 2.2, and XFree86 4.3.0, as well as gcc-3.2.2 and the latest development libraries. Enjoy!' Enjoy is right!" And Scorchen writes "YOPER has released Version 1.0 of their increasingly popular distro. This is the their first stable release." Here's the announcment. The website claims "With Yoper it is possible to import packages from all the other major distros including rpm's, deb's, and tgz packages."
I've been looking at YOPER recently, and it really doesn't seem to be much more than just another distro. The website makes all sorts of amazing claims, but when it boils down to it, it just doesn't seem to have a lot to it. Slackware + alien?
:)
I dunno - somebody prove me wrong!
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Yoper has already been discussed thoroughly in an OSNews feedback thread and it has been decided that a lot of their claims are duds or dont quite work and they dont add anything visually pleasing to the distro. Everything Yoper looks like crap. Dont believe me, check out their screenshots. That Y instead of the K looks terrible.
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Yay for the Slack. I can't say I have never deviated, but I always come back for more. Pat's still doin' it for those who want to run linux for all the right reasons...
You are not what you own.
We've got all these different distributions of Linux, but nothing seems to separate one from another. This one's got standardized app installing. This one's got a nice OS install script. This one's got a better app installation system. This one can use all the different installation systems.
Whatever. There simply isn't any value added by any of these distributions.
Which one stands head and shoulders above the rest? Any suggestions?
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I am too tempted to agree.
:). Also, one cannot get to choose the packages to install in Yoper.
Having tried both Slackware and Yoper for sometime, I think here are some things to note that might try to differentiate the two distros:
a. Installation process- let me say that typing something like "yoper" to start the installation process of an OS is...um...different. But then, there is no rule/law which says that one *must* use the term "setup"..
b. Default Desktop: Slackware offers a choice. Yoper doesn't. I personally prefer XFCE (just a matter of choice, nothing personal against KDE), something that Yoper does not provide by itself.
c. Under the hood, there is no noticable difference between the two distros. They both have similar package menagement
You can always install the "vanilla sources" kernel, but come on - don't you want to experience the latest experimental performance patches to the kernel? SURE YA DO! Gentoo is a "bleeding edge" distro.
And no, it's not for beginners, but it is great for someone who'd like to learn more about Linux.
some of us here in eastern europe can only dream of broadband. debian users are heavily dependent on their internet connections too.
thanks again, pat v, for making a distro that functions in all conditions
That said, I would still rather throw my money and/or support towards distributions that have been treating the community good for the past 5 or more years (Slack, Redhat, Mandrake when they aren't looking for a handout, and Suse).
Isn't that application dependent?
What matters is that a distro a) does what it promises and b) is interoperable with other distros.
Requirement (b) is already handled by tarballs for most distros, and also in some by the low overhead in creating packages for them (e.g., Gentoo).
Requirement (a) is really what separates the distros.
so far slack was always on one cd [i don't count the source/extra cd]. the 9.0rc1 i was also able to fit on one cd.
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Maybe it's because he used a smiley
The gentoo instructions are basically Go Type This, Now Type That....
Maybe this is supposed to teach you (the hard way) that the foremost thing about a Unix environment is that everything can be scripted.
Then again, it's probably just a lamer filter.
I almost agree, except I think it depends on how you want to learn. Some people learn top-down, they want to see the finished product and gradually learn about more and more details. In the meantime, they have a fully functional computer. For people like this, Gentoo is probably not the best choice: they would be better served by Mandrake / Redhat / etc, or even Debian (if they can handle the kernel modules.
:) . I will probably keep my main computer on Debian for quite some time. However, for my second computer (mostly a server) I will most certainly return to Gentoo.
However, if you are installing linux on a second computer or something (so you can afford having only a command line initially), then you can take your time and build everything from the bottom up. In this case, Gentoo is probably about the best possible distribution you could imagine.
My experience was Gentoo (didn't set up X) -> Mandrake (rpm hell) -> Debian
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Hate to shoot a good argument full of holes (and a good argument it is), but distrowatch ranks on the basis of interest, not users, downloads, or anything else. So if two hundred thousand rampaging /.ers head over there and check it out, it's quite likely to jump up the charts. It's the same with any new, unknown, probably crappy distro.
[FUCK BETA]
of course, they ARE in the middle of a flame war with the /. crowd...and i quoteth:
/. in the same article as slackware. Ignorance is bliss. Stay in your matrix and stay blind. This is a business and not a charity organization for brainless and gutless chickens that fill a forum up with junk.
Stay with your Linux and leave us alone. Business users need us, since they are sick of YOU. We do not need brainless nerds with too much time on their hand. We need businesses who want to save time and money and save their behind from having to hire you.
/.'ers
yoper (site admin):
We compiled, tested, packaged, compiled, tested, packaged, compiled, tested, packaged. Until one of you actually tries it how can you even start talking. It is a complete new Linux not based on anything else, targetting the i686 business market. You nerds arenot our business. You nerds are no ones business and this is the reason why as a community we fail to fight M$ properly. After years of dev you could have actually given it an objective go instead of slagging it off and blindly comparing it to slackware only because it was posted on
1.) release new distro
2.) post article
3.) flame
4.) no profit!!!
seriously...what idiot release a distro then flames the comunity that supports it?
-frozen
I'm not always the brightest pixel in the stream