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Mac OS X: The Missing Manual (Second Edition)

emmastory writes "I finally (finally) picked up Mac OS X: The Missing Manual. I've been meaning to grab it since I first heard that David Pogue wrote a book on OS X; I've been a fan of his for a while. I remember reading his stuff in Macworld -- on System 7, even -- when someone gave me a subscription (many) years ago, and his New York Times columns have generally been pretty good as well." Update: 03/25 16:43 GMT by T : Ha! The original headline was missing OS X's "X" -- now in place. Read on ... Mac OS X: The Missing Manual (Second Edition) author David Pogue pages 712 publisher O'Reilly and Associates/Pogue Press rating An excellent book that merits its title. reviewer Emma Story ISBN 0596004508 summary An intensely thorough look at using OS X, updated to include Jaguar.

Mac OS X: The Missing Manual is exactly what you'd expect if you've read any of Pogue's other books or columns: it's clear and straightforward without seeming dumbed down. His writing tends to be fairly light and often funny, making for particularly readable technical books. That's not to say it's without substance, though -- within the first chunk of this book (which is pushing six hundred pages) I'd already had a dozen of my existing questions answered as well as plenty I hadn't even thought to wonder about.

It seems pretty definitely directed at people who've been using Mac OS for a long time and are switching to OS X. Given what OS X is, it's not surprising that it takes some getting used to, despite vaguely looking like Mac OS. If you've never used OS 8 or 9 and don't have any existing Mac habits to unlearn, you might not even need a book like this -- but I suspect it would still be pretty useful. Pogue also takes time to address issues people might have switching to OS X from Unix or Windows, but the focus is on comparisons to older versions of Mac OS. As the title implies, Apple documentation tends to be slim to non-existent, and this is by far the most thorough OS X book I've seen yet. It functions exactly as promised -- I keep my copy on the shelf over my desk, and when I have a question about something I remember from OS 9 or why something I know from BSD doesn't work under 10.2, I can just look it up.

The second edition is more of the same -- the book is bigger, fatter, and covers Jaguar. It was published in October 2002, so it's not quite up to the minute, but it's certainly not outdated yet. I shelled out another twenty bucks when I first saw it, and I don't regret it -- the only major complaint I'd had about the first edition was that its usefulness was somewhat impaired when 10.2 came out. It's possible I'll feel the same way about the second edition when faced with 10.3 -- but maybe Pogue will write another book.

I would recommend this book for just about every OS X user, regardless of how recently you switched -- people who installed it back during the public beta will probably get just as much out of the second edition as those who just bought their first-ever Mac. However, you'll probably find it more useful if you're coming from older versions of Mac OS than if you've just switched from another Unix or Windows, but that's not to say it isn't worth reading in those cases. It's relatively cheap for an O'Reilly book (712 pages, list price is $29.95) so you can't really go wrong.

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164 comments

  1. Sounds good by electro_mike · · Score: 1

    After reading his review I think this might be a great book for me to start off learning the mac with. Nice Review. The book seams to be a great price too!

    1. Re:Sounds good by cbuskirk · · Score: 1

      IMHO this book is best for people who have used mac before and some computer experience. If you are very good with computers, MacOSX in a Nutshell is much better. It is a very thourough book and I learn something new every day reading it.

      For those people you know who have never used a compter before, get them a Mac and Robin Williams' Mac OS 10.2 book. It starts off with the absolute basics of working with the mouse and moving windows around, all the way up through some pretty thourogh system information for the average user especially internet help.

    2. Re:Sounds good by 6hill · · Score: 1
      IMHO this book is best for people who have used mac before and some computer experience.

      So how about us experienced computer users that have recently switched to a Mac?

      I have the Missing Manual 2nd edition reviewed here, and while it is a good book, it's still written for an experienced Mac user. I bought it as the best of bad alternatives, while searching for a book that didn't spend 20 pages explaining the concept of a file system and double-clicking ("Mac OS X for Dummies" etc.) or jump straight into Cocoa programming or such "advanced" topics.

      IOW, I need a book called The Definitive OS X Manual For The Recent Switcher With Copious Experience In Every Other OS In Existence. Any recommendations?

    3. Re:Sounds good by pogueman · · Score: 2, Informative
      IOW, I need a book called The Definitive OS X Manual For The Recent Switcher With Copious Experience In Every Other OS In Existence. Any recommendations?
      The closest thing is probably my own, just released book "Switching to the Mac: The Missing Manual." Which might also be called, "The Definitive Mac OS X Manual for the Person who Already Knows Windows (and wants to bring over all the email, addresses, buddy lists, favorites, etc., and learn the keystrokes of the Mac OS)." --Pogue
  2. Too easy to use to need another manual... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is as bad as, "Mac OS for Dummies". Totally redudant.

    1. Re:Too easy to use to need another manual... by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1
      You're right, of course! Telling OS X to use an external LDAP server for login authentication is as simple as clicking "Use external LDAP" in the control center.

      There's still a lot that more advanced users might want to do that's not currently as simple as clicking a checkbox in some obvious place. This book might be nice for those situations.

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  3. Don't mince words, do you? by Dylan2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hope the book is longer than your review...

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    1. Re:Don't mince words, do you? by Fulkkari · · Score: 1
      I hope the book is longer than your review...

      You're right. But I think it must be a picture book in that case.

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    2. Re:Don't mince words, do you? by vajonez · · Score: 0

      How in the world is the parent (a one line troll post) "+1 Interesting"?

    3. Re:Don't mince words, do you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes but where is "Mac OS X: The Missing Heterosexuality"?

    4. Re:Don't mince words, do you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes but where is "Mac OS X: The Missing Heterosexuality"?

      Presumably, the same place as your dick...

  4. Transition by Lynn+Benfield · · Score: 2

    Given what OS X is, it's not surprising that it takes some getting used to, despite vaguely looking like Mac OS.

    It's gotten a lot better, but the best description I've heard of Mac OS X DPs/10.0 was "it's kind of like a Mac, but a Mac built by people who've only had a Mac described to them over the phone".

    There were a number of really quite spurious changes to the UI initially, which probably explains the demand for this kind of book - the change from 9 to X has been more confusing than any OS transition Apple users have ever had to do before, including the move to System 7 (when there was also plenty of grousing to start with).

    1. Re:Transition by Surak · · Score: 1

      It's gotten a lot better, but the best description I've heard of Mac OS X DPs/10.0 was "it's kind of like a Mac, but a Mac built by people who've only had a Mac described to them over the phone".

      I thought that was called 'Microsoft Windows'. :-P

    2. Re:Transition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Windows was written when someone described a Mac in a foreign language, which was then translated into english by someone who wasn't a native speaker in either language, and had never seen a computer.

    3. Re:Transition by Frymaster · · Score: 2, Funny
      but the best description I've heard..

      call it: "unix, the musical"

    4. Re:Transition by alangmead · · Score: 1

      Andy Hertzfeld used to describe it as the Macintosh hit by the bizarro ray.
      (although I thought he made that quote about the Atari ST, not Windows. Its a good enough analogy, that maybe he re-used it.)

  5. Mac OS X spreads evolutionist propaganda! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    For a good laugh, check out this link.

    1. Re:Mac OS X spreads evolutionist propaganda! by Tteddo · · Score: 1

      That was the funniest thing I have read in a month!!! Well, wait, they are allowed to vote.... :(

    2. Re:Mac OS X spreads evolutionist propaganda! by Jimithing+DMB · · Score: 1

      Hah.. I've seen that before

      I'm still hoping that it's a really bad joke. :-(

      Sadly, there are certainly people who will believe this crap. Even worse (as a sibling post has mentioned) these people can vote.

  6. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They do that to avoid the class action suits when all us mouse wheel twiddlers eventually succumb to RSI.

  7. The truth... by borgdows · · Score: 2, Funny

    If the manual is missing, it is because nobody need a manual in order to use MacOSX !

    1. Re:The truth... by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 1
      Or in your case, a grammar checker.

      ;)

    2. Re:The truth... by ProfKyne · · Score: 1

      This book is good for learning all of the bare necessities of how to use MacOS X. I haven't read the whole thing (sort of stopped reading it last fall), but some of the kinds of tidbits it offers IIRC:

      • Hold down command-option and click an app's Dock icon to hide all other running apps.
      • Holding down the command key while clicking and dragging a window behind the frontmost window lets you manipulate that window without making it the frontmost window. (I have even dragged hyperlinks from Safari into my RSS client [NetNewsWire Lite] using this method.)
      • Option-dragging icons in the Finder makes copies of the item rather than simply moving it.
      • The emacs keybindings work in Cocoa applications.
      • Holding down the Shift key while performing some kind of navigation shortcut (such as cycling through windows with Command-` or through applications with Command-tab, or scrolling down in Safari or Mail.app with the space bar) will do the reverse of whatever it normally does.

      These are just some quick finder shortcuts that came to mind when I started this post, the tips in the book are far more diverse. No, it's not really a book for hardcore geeks who want to be learn how to use niutil to manage a room full of OS X boxes. But it does show the reader how to do things that are not necessarily immediately obvious, plus the things that are different on OSX from OS9.

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  8. Easy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    To give small minded people like you something to bitch about instead of the normal gripes of trying to figure out the config file for XFree86. It is the marvelous design of the Mac OS that requires only one mouse button to utilize the system. Also have you ever tried to do telephone tech support?

    "Mam, I need you to click the right mouse button."

    "I am using the RIGHT mouse button!!!"

    "No mam, the one of the right side of the left mouse button!"

    "Well, why didn't say that in the first place?!?!?"

    (Sounds of a tech banging his head on his monitor)

    1. Re:Easy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      good god those users and the tech guy are both idiots.

      its called "right click"

    2. Re:Easy... by Randolpho · · Score: 1
      It is the marvelous design of the Mac OS that requires only one mouse button to utilize the system.
      Ahem... when I use one-button Macs, i.e. not my own, I find myself option-clicking more often than not. One mouse button is not enough.
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    3. Re:Easy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And sometimes you click the LEFT button to RIGHTCLICK! (Damn left-handed communists, I thought they were all homosexual Apple users!)

  9. Emmastory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I cummed across Emmastory's site before, and happened upon the chat room. Lo and behond, who was there also but slashdot's very own CowboyNeal.

    I sense some kind of conspiracy, but I'm unsure of the exact details.

    1. Re:Emmastory by netglen · · Score: 0

      "I cummed across Emmastory's site before, ..."

      Ick, they should outlaw one-handed typing.

  10. So this is the story! by Linux-based-robots · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've been missing one of my Mac OS manuals for over a week! Give it back O'Reilly!

  11. A clip of manual contents from PDF version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  12. good by Miguel+de+Icaza · · Score: 1

    review

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  13. An "intensely thorough" reference book? by ianscot · · Score: 4, Insightful
    My sister who works at one of the Apple stores recommends this title to people who need any manual at all. An awful lot of the people who buy it do so more for reassurance than anything else -- your nervous parents who want it around just in case, basically.

    She doesn't see tech-minded people buying how-to books for the OS proper, or at least not when they first buy the computers. Personally I've never felt a need, and my 9-year-old kids were comfortable immediately in OS X, tweaked every setting they had access to without a blink.

    (But "intensely thorough"? Is intensity really the quality you're looking for in a reference? I imagine cracking the binding in my haste to pore, hot-eyed, over some crucial command line syntax...)

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    1. Re:An "intensely thorough" reference book? by Otter · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Personally I've never felt a need, and my 9-year-old kids were comfortable immediately in OS X, tweaked every setting they had access to without a blink.

      That's _precisely_ the niche this book serves. I was comfortable in OS X, and tweaked everything I could see, but reading through the Missing Manual book turned up all sorts of features I would never have stumbled upon or actively researched.

    2. Re:An "intensely thorough" reference book? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found it to be pretty woeful. I don't think I learned anything from it and really wish I had spent my money on something else.

      But then again, I already had experience with Unix, OS 7 & 8, and all the various Windows. So maybe I am not the target audience. Most of it details the various 'iApps' (the vast majority of which I have no use for).

    3. Re:An "intensely thorough" reference book? by 6hill · · Score: 1
      I was comfortable in OS X, and tweaked everything I could see, but reading through the Missing Manual book turned up all sorts of features I would never have stumbled upon or actively researched.

      Exactly my experience re the book. I didn't need it to explain me the ins and outs of using sudo or ls, but the stuff on UI tweaking, aliases, networking etc. provided a few "I didn't know you could do that, too!" moments. The "Where'd It Go?" dictionary at the end was very useful for a Win-2-Mac switcher like me.

  14. Open books by guacamolefoo · · Score: 1

    The second edition is more of the same -- the book is bigger, fatter, and covers Jaguar. It was published in October 2002, so it's not quite up to the minute, but it's certainly not outdated yet. I shelled out another twenty bucks when I first saw it, and I don't regret it -- the only major complaint I'd had about the first edition was that its usefulness was somewhat impaired when 10.2 came out. It's possible I'll feel the same way about the second edition when faced with 10.3 -- but maybe Pogue will write another book.

    This is a great reason to have open books that can be updated. The problems with printing said open books are obvious, but for simple reference purposes, this is an idea whose time has come. I think there was a story here recently about O'Reilly doing something like this. Good luck to them -- I am personally much more likely to buy/use a book that I know will have a longer shelf life than a head of lettuce.

    GF.

  15. The "nudge nudge wink wink" factor by dwvanstone · · Score: 5, Informative
    I've been reading the OS X Missing Manual for a month now, and I find myself frustrated by the author's writing style. There's a heavy flavor of Aren't-We-Mac-Users-So-Special and gleeful putdowns of Microsoft that turns me off. The information could have been presented more professionally and objectively.

    I did find it immediately useful to discover features I didn't know Mac OS X had, such as speech recognition. For that alone, I'm glad I received the book as a birthday gift.

    In contrast, I absolutely adored the iMovie Missing Manual. I devoured it over a few weeks and found it fun, useful, interesting, and without all the "nudge nudge wink wink"s.

    1. Re:The "nudge nudge wink wink" factor by mbbac · · Score: 1

      I think David Pogue writes his book on Windows due to the speech recognition software available for it. He dictates his books to the machine since he has carpel tunnel or something.

      So, I'd say he is non-biased.

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    2. Re:The "nudge nudge wink wink" factor by lemox · · Score: 2, Funny

      I am sick and tired of you people that treat Microsoft like some sort of poor disabled kid that we all need to be more sensitive to. Lighten the fuck up! These are *operating systems* people poke fun at other peoples OS's in good fun. Nobody took any of it seriously until your brigade of politically correct drones came in and made it some sort of jihad either for or against. Get over it, and while doing that, get over yourself.

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    3. Re:The "nudge nudge wink wink" factor by plugger · · Score: 1

      The Jihads have always existed, at least back as far as 8-bit home machines.

    4. Re:The "nudge nudge wink wink" factor by RestiffBard · · Score: 1

      you must be psychic. on top of your excellently sting commentary, have any of these clown shoes that bitch about /.'s lack of objectivity ever noticed that THIS IS NOT AN OBJECTIVE SITE!!! It is opinionated. In many cases to the extreme. I like it that way. I agree with a number of the opinions. If you don't then start your own damn site. Lord, these friggin high user number people get on my damn nerves. Why don't they just keep their opinions to themselves and be more objective?

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    5. Re:The "nudge nudge wink wink" factor by .com+b4+.storm · · Score: 1

      There's a heavy flavor of Aren't-We-Mac-Users-So-Special and gleeful putdowns of Microsoft that turns me off.

      I'm not so sure why this is a big deal - I didn't notice this 'flavor' much, but perhaps that is because I've been reading Slashdot for years. All joking aside, though, I think this is indicative of the lighthearted nature of this book - which is its biggest strength, imo. The author loves the Mac, and isn't ashamed to show pride in the machine and the OS. But he also is very honest about the shortcomings of OS X, and instead of just griping about them, he provides real solutions.

      To me, the fact that the Missing Manual is a fairly laid back (while still informative and thorough) read is one of the best reasons to have it on your bookshelf. Hardcore geeks may scoff at the idea, but I am a hardcore geek and have found the book to be handy; if for no other reason than because of the frequent interludes that explain the history of this or that in the Mac world, helping to give some background to what you're learning. To a (now former) Mac outsider, that is very useful indeed.

      Oh well, just my two cents.

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  16. Geek-friendly O/S, End user mouse? by chargen · · Score: 1

    I can believe the argument that some might put forward that the single-button mouse is easier for the novice user. This O/S is significantly advanced that is is attracting geeks (myself included, even though it is a dog on my G3). Geeks need buttons on a mouse. Why doesn't Apple even have the option of a multi-buttoned mouse? Scroll wheels have proven INVALUABLE by end users. Apple considers them frivolous? Eccentric? Confusing to the end user?

    Bah!

    Oh... and I am well-aware that most after-market USB mice work on Macs, but why does Apple not even recognize this issue?

    -Pete

    1. Re:Geek-friendly O/S, End user mouse? by thbbpt · · Score: 1

      what? you don't like to use a hockey puck as a pointing device?

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    2. Re:Geek-friendly O/S, End user mouse? by MidKnight · · Score: 1

      Oh my good dear lord -- I can't believe people still bring this up. Have you ever used a Mac? The fact that the UI is designed so that you don't *need* a two-button mouse does not limit you to not *using* a two-button mouse. It works, it just isn't necessary for the normal Apple customer.

      why does Apple not even recognize this issue?

      Well, because it isn't an issue. Believe it or not, Apple doesn't target the geek community as their core customer demographic. However, if a geek does happen to pick up a Mac (as many are doing these days), and decides that they can't live without a more complex mouse, they can go buy one of the Kensington Mice available from the Apple store, or go pick up your favorite Logitech variety at Best Buy. But please, please don't bring up the "Apples suck because they only have one mouse button" again.

      --MId

    3. Re:Geek-friendly O/S, End user mouse? by elohim · · Score: 1

      The parent raises the issue about which I often wonder. "Why doesn't Apple even have the option of a multi-buttoned mouse?" (emphasis mine). I'd like to use a multibutton mouse designed by Apple, as I think it's aesthetic and ergonomic value would be superior to third party pointing devices.

    4. Re:Geek-friendly O/S, End user mouse? by BigBir3d · · Score: 1

      command click

      function click

      control click

      and all the combo's thereof.

      versus: left, right, ctrl-left, and ctrl-right (or left/middle/right etc)

      the point is, right click is faster and easier than comm/fn/ctrl click is, especially when your fingers are doing something else.

      apple doesn't have left and right for one reason, IMO, they can't make it look pretty enough for their own taste.

    5. Re:Geek-friendly O/S, End user mouse? by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      Buy a MacAlly or MacMice.com (http://www.macmice.com/pics.html) mouse and shut up about it. The machine has the option, Apple just doesn't care to offer their own multi-buttoned mouse.

  17. No offense, but... by TTop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This review told me practically nothing! What does this book have in it that is good for geeks?

    Okay, so it's been updated and it's fatter and you like it and it's good for people who used pre-OSX Macs. Personally, I never used a pre-OSX Mac -- why is it good for me?

    You describe it as a thorough book, but barely give me an idea of it's contents.

    1. Re:No offense, but... by TonyZahn · · Score: 1

      Thank for you review of the review. Well written, but a little on the short side. Next time, try to be a little more detailed about what the good and bad points of the review were. :-)

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    2. Re:No offense, but... by alfredo · · Score: 1

      If you are a geek, look for the O'Reilly book that addresses the Geek.

      MacOSX For UNIX Geeks, O'Reilly Press.

      I have Learning UNIX For MacOSX. Pretty good reference.

      Peachpit Press has an OSX Advanced offering.
      So if you feel his review doesn't show your need for the book, hit your local bookstore and thumb through the offerings there. Go to the O'Reilly site and read about their OSX books. Their books are usually good, with a few exceptions.

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    3. Re:No offense, but... by Michael_Burton · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This review told me practically nothing! What does this book have in it that is good for geeks?

      Based on my reading of the first edition, there isn't much geek stuff in this book. Readers are told how to open a terminal window, and given a very quick gloss of the unix command line.

      However, even geeks are likely to spend a significant amount of time working with the GUI, and the book covers a lot of fairly obscure features of OS X. A good bit of space is devoted to helping users of earlier Mac systems find equivalent functionality in the new OS, as rhe review notes. I read the book as a Mac user trying to make the transition to OS X, so my perception may be skewed, but I don't think there is a better introduction to OS X out there, no matter what environment you're switching from.

      If you're a unix person and want to know how OS X differs from environments you're familiar with, there's an O'Reilly Book called Mac OS X for Unix Geeks [oreilly.com].

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    4. Re:No offense, but... by RestiffBard · · Score: 1

      You ought to read the Nutshell book then. It's described by the author as being the geekier companion to the Missing Manual book.

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  18. Missing Manual For Dummies :-) by Salo2112 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I got this when I got my imac - since I'd only used Windows for personal computing, I wasn't used to doing things the Mac Way. Well, the OSX way - I guess there are differences. It's a great book, but weak on command line stuff and not all that funny. I don't know why people who write manuals bother trying to be funny: it's almost never pulled off and is usually distracting.

    I'd recommend it to anyone who is switching from Windows - Mac (OSX) stuff isn't intuitive if you're used to doing things One Microsoft Way.

  19. Re:Mac problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't bother trying to talk about real world problems and logic and the like to the Mac zealots.

    They don't seem to be able to deal with it very well and in the end they'll all start running around waving their hands talking about how thier Uncle still uses his first Mac that he bought in 1993 which proves they last longer and are a much better value than a PC which cost half as much running Linux or Windows.

  20. modeled my own training on it by feldsteins · · Score: 1

    I think Pogue is great. I and a colleague have been providing training/orientation for the university we work at since OS X appeared. As soon as Pogue's book hit the scene we grabbed it and began recommending it to our beginning and intermediate OS X session attendees. IN fact, we've now modeled our training sessions loosely around his first three chapters.

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  21. More like ID10T problems by Jimithing+DMB · · Score: 1

    Well, flame me if you'd like, but I fail to see why anyone would write a comment about an old 300 MHz Mac running OS < X in a story pertaining to OS X.

    Your comment is 100% offtopic, is a troll, and flamebait. Nice try.

    To address your argument though. Yes, OS X has issues when you overload it with too many extensions just like a Windows machine does. Considering the OS < X architecture is really a hack on a hack on a hack of a not very well designed API from 1984 then I suppose it's pretty amazing that it works at all. NOTE: Win32 is actually in the same boat. The API is a hack on a hack on a hack of a poorly designed API from the 80s (Win16).

    I'm sure if you knew as much about Mac OS as you did about Windows (and spent all of that time on Mac OS instead of Windows) then you'd surely know how to fix the problem you're having (disable unneeded extensions). Of course, I never was an OS < X user and even I know to do something as simple as that.

  22. Evolution is a fact. Get over it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


  23. Re:Mac problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good God, did you write this post in 1996 and save it for a rainy day?

  24. What's missing is a legacy-free manual! by lowy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I became a Mac user only after Apple moved to MacOS X - a modern, UNIX-based OS.

    I have neither the desire, the time, nor the inclination to learn anything about Mac OS 9, 8, or earlier versions. I avoided these for many years ( because they were unstable, unpreemptive, un-interoperable, and unneccessary for an ungraphic artist like myself.) and it is even less neccessary for me to learn them now that they are legacy.

    I love MacOS X. It gives me a great, pretty, powerful, easy-to-use environment that I don't have to think about 95% of the time, with the option of a CLI terminal/shell for those 5% of the times when I do. It would be fun to learn more about MacOS X, which is - as you know - a very very different OS than its predecessors.

    Won't someone write an indepth book on Mac OS X that doesn't contain uneccessary and often confusing references to obsolete virgins I know little (and care less) about.

    1. Re:What's missing is a legacy-free manual! by bshroyer · · Score: 1

      ...that doesn't contain uneccessary and often confusing references to obsolete virgins I know little (and care less) about.

      You mean like, Little Women?

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    2. Re:What's missing is a legacy-free manual! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      a modern, UNIX-based OS.

      a modern, UNIX-based OS.
      a modern, UNIX-based OS!

      a great, pretty, powerful, easy-to-use environment

      a great, pretty, powerful, easy-to-use environment.
      a great, pretty, powerful, easy-to-use environment!

  25. Best OSX Unix book... by Hurricane_Bill · · Score: 2, Informative

    the best OSX Unix book is 'Unix for Mac OX' by Matisse Enzer, If you're looking to learn Unix on the macintosh. It covers everything from commands, pipes, environment, editors, permissions, scripts... it's very thorough.

    I probably wouldn't recommend it for people already comfortable with Unix, but for a beginner it's the best OSX Unix book I could find. Highly recommend it!

  26. Re:Mac problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Yes, and the fact that this computer is NOT supported by OS X says nothing to you? To be quite frank, it's your own stupid fault for trying to run OS X on a 604e, I mean come on, it's minimum specs are G3 with at least 256 Megs of ram, it's no surprise netscape won't repsond, it's probably totaly in the swap file and seing as you're thrashing the disk for the copy it's hardly likely to be quite to load those pages, now is it?

    I mean christ, if you got OS X onto that machine you must have some inteligance, now why don't you apply it and realise that it isn't going to work properly if you put it on a machine it wasn't designed to work on.

    Bob

  27. Re:Mac problems by insensitive_clod · · Score: 1

    Would it be rude for me to tell you to get a life? This EXACT spiel has been posted before, months ago...

    I really shouldn't even be justifying this with a response, but if you're telling the truth, you've got some problems with your Mac. I could supply you with similar anecdotes about my experience with painfully slow PCs, but i won't bore you anymore.

  28. Re:The "slashdot" factor by feldsteins · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I agree. I do get tired of this kind of thing. Slashdot itself is one of the worst examples of it, however. Consider how /. stories have a smart-assed commentary that is almost always anti-Microsoft, pro-Linux and Mac-snickering (to coin a term). I guess it goes over big with the intended audience - both for Pogue and for the editors of /.

    --
    You like your Macintosh better than me, don't you Dave? Dave? Can you hear me Dave?
  29. Re:Mac problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am a Mac user and I would never install OSX on a 300 MHz PowerPC 604, 64 MB machine. It is waaaay under powered and well below the operating requirements for OSX. OSX is a resource hog, but then again, the system you are using is perhaps 5 years old. Given the CPU and memory it requires, OSX runs fast.

    Switch back to OS 9 and you will have good performance with that system.

  30. The After Years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Soon after Windows had dominated the market, and soon after Intel bought out AMD, the world was a different place. Children grew up in their families, who lived in their houses (Powered by the Pentium 5 processer and ran with new Windows CX planning). People went to work in their cars (Powered by the newest Celeron!). All but a few..these few..the rebels..the outlaws..they used 'other' operating systems. They used Linux..and some even used *BSD. These people didn't like 'features'. In fact, its hard to tell what they liked. Their leader was a man(?) named CmdrTaco. He led them through the years. He took of their first born. He even proclaimed himself God, and was worshipped as such. Until..that day. They had lived on the streets for too long. They had eaten Linus brand baked beans for too long. Finally, they had suffered too long. No games, no software, no houses, no cars. And Bill Gates was there with open arms, ready to lead them to their games, their software, their houses, and their Gates brand steaks. CmdrTaco was never seen again after the mutiny. It was said that he had died of exposure. Because Linux didn't support heaters.

    Troll 94 of 210 from the annals of the Troll Library .

  31. Shameless offtopic namedropping by portforward · · Score: 1

    I've actually been to David Pogue's house, Twice. I knew their Nanny, and met him once. I really don't remember what was said, he did seem a little eccentric but nice. Anyway, I just remember watching "Fried Green Tomatoes" on their TV, (I had been outvoted.)

  32. Re:The "slashdot" factor by hoggoth · · Score: 2, Funny

    > Slashdot itself is one of the worst examples of it, however. Consider how /. stories have a smart-assed commentary that is almost always anti-Microsoft, pro-Linux and Mac-snickering (to coin a term).

    Yeah, but Microsoft does suck though.

    --
    - For the complete works of Shakespeare: cat /dev/random (may take some time)
  33. Don't mind me, I'm just a shithead troll... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    You try "Kathleen Fent"!

    In Soviet Russia, "Kathleen Fent" tries YOU!

    1. Re:Don't mind me, I'm just a shithead troll... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia, "Kathleen Fent" tries YOU!

      Ummm, Kathleen Fent tries you in EVERY country on Earth, not just Soviet Russia.

      Unless, of course, you are Malda.

  34. A better O'Reilly book in my opinion by ilsie · · Score: 4, Informative

    is Mac OS X in a Nutshell. When I finally took the plunge and bought an iBook, one of the main reasons was for the bad-ass BSD core in OS X that I kept hearing about. Unfortunately, the official Apple documentation is extremely sparse, and coming from a heavy Windows background, OS X and Aqua were very foreign to me, and sort of intimidating.

    So I did some research, and began looking at good books to help me make the "switch". Although the Pogue book is well written and entertaining, there is really not much in there that I didn't figure out on my own in the first two days just playing around with the OS. There is absolutely nothing in there about the BSD core. OS X In A Nutshell, on the other hand, goes through the Aqua Interface, then goes in depth into AppleScripting, the BSD core, and even has little tidbits on Perl & regular expressions and the like. It doesen't wax poetic like the Pogue book, but it's definitely a much more concisely written, useful book for the /. crowd.

    1. Re:A better O'Reilly book in my opinion by Zane+Edwards · · Score: 1

      Nutshell is pretty good for just about everything. I have been looking for a good reference book that doesn't just cover "How to log in" and "intro to the dock" and finally come to the conclusion that I don't really need a book! (also thanks to safari bookshelf/google)

      I guess I could learn programming???

    2. Re:A better O'Reilly book in my opinion by betis70 · · Score: 1

      I had the same experience as you, though I had experience with earlier Macs. But there was nothing in OS X that caused me problems in my day-to-day use of my iBook. I got this 'Missing Manual' thinking it would help me understand some of the more obscure features I could use. It didn't. It showed me how to (sort of) use the various iApps--the important ones I had already figured out (iMail and iTunes), so that was worthless. The command line info was pretty sparse, but I really didn't need it since I already know tcsh.

      I'll have to take a look at the Nutshell book next time I swing by Fry's or MicroCenter.

      --
      I forget...are we at war with Eurasia or East Asia?
    3. Re:A better O'Reilly book in my opinion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "one of the main reasons was for the bad-ass BSD core in OS X that I kept hearing about"

      Why didn't you just run FreeBSD, then?

      Anyway, it doesn't have a BSD "core". There's a BSD server to the Mach kernel (microkernels use a client-server model), but that's not really a "core", is it?

  35. Re:Mac problems by Apaturia · · Score: 1
    I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a Mac (a 8600/300 w/64 Megs of RAM) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. 20 minutes. At home, on my Pentium Pro 200 running NT 4, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this Mac, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.

    In addition, during this file transfer, Netscape will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even BBEdit Lite is straining to keep up as I type this.

    This is on OS 8/9, right? Reminds me of the good old times. As I recall, the base RAM requirements for a moderate number of extensions/control panets used up about 20Mb in those days. File coying operations cached the file in RAM if possible, so there's another 17Mb gone. Netscape is also memory hungry... and here comes the old VM system, grinding things to a halt. And if that doesn't do it, that cooperative multitasking will (you know, the one that intelligently stops EVERYTHING if you hold you click-and-hold in, say, the menubar?).

    My point here is that the Mac OS, pre-OSX, was not very inneficient. I'm not surprised by what you're describing. And that 300MHz processor is not even a G3. What are you expecting?

    You wanted reasons to choose a Mac? OS X. On modern hardware. I've always swore by Macs, but in retrospective, I honestly can't believe I put up with so much grief before OS X came along.

  36. Mac OS X Unleashed by Jimithing+DMB · · Score: 2, Informative

    Try the Mac OS X Unleashed book from SAMS. It is also written by Mac OS 9 users, but the authors have certainly embraced OS X (with a few gripes about springloaded folders and the like which actually do exist in Jaguar now). I assume the book has since been updated for Jaguar, so most likely this extra fluff will be gone.

  37. Lame argument (please move on) by mrnick · · Score: 1

    I don't know about you but I would not use any mouse that came bundled with a system... they all suck. I have OS X and the first thing I did was run to Comp USA and purchase a Logitech optical 3 button wheel mouse. Guess what? All the buttons and wheels and everything works the same as they do on wintel machines.

    P.S.

    I have a never used one button USB mouse for sale *lol*

    Nick Powers

    --

    Encryption: I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to encrypt it...
  38. Re:The "slashdot" factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    uh.

    you can go elsewhere.

  39. Re:Fist Prost by dominick · · Score: 1

    that is the most disturbing thing i've ever seen in my life. is it possible to mod this user down to -2 ?

  40. OS X books written for FreeBSD users? by swb · · Score: 2

    I have OS X on two boxes, one in the office and one at home, but I've been turned off by the hiding of the UNIX stuff. I use FreeBSD daily at work and at home and would like to get more out of OS X than I have so far, but it's been obfuscated beyond my willingness to dig.

    Any books that approach OS X from a BSD user's perspective? I don't care for the OS X GUI interface myself (wish I still had Finder...), but it might be fun to get more out of BSD side than I have.

    1. Re:OS X books written for FreeBSD users? by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      You want Mac OS X for Unix Geeks, by our good friends at O'Reilly. It's the only OS X book I have, and the only useful one I could find at the bookstore. It approaches the BSD side of OS X from a command line *nix perspective through mostly a series of short examples and descriptions of the system. It's not as thorough as I (and probably you) would like, but it's adequate to get you the terms that you'd need to type into Google. :)

    2. Re:OS X books written for FreeBSD users? by bzhou · · Score: 1

      Mac OS X Hacks might suite you better as it talks the Unix side more.

    3. Re:OS X books written for FreeBSD users? by pribut · · Score: 4, Insightful

      First: Put a terminal window up on your task bar. Then it is no longer hidden and all the man pages, perl, vi, whatever you want is right there.

      Next check out the following books

      Learning Unix for Mac OS X
      by Dave Taylor, Jerry Peek

      Mac OS X in a Nutshell (already mentioned)
      by Jason McIntosh, Chuck Toporek (Contributor), Chris Stone (Contributor)

      and certainly the already mentioned

      Mac OSX for Unix Geeks - with no picures - just like a terminal window :-)

      That said - as a 2 week newbie on OSX - I found the OSX Missing Manual helpful to getting started. I have previous experience on WinBlow$, BSD Unix, and Linux. The transition was not hard - and part of the big sell is certainly the BSD Unix - and access to being able to install XWindows, and creating a similar environment to what is there on the other systems with KDE, Gnome and all the goodies that go with that.

      Mac OS X for Unix Geeks
      by Brian Jepson, Ernest E. Rothman

    4. Re:OS X books written for FreeBSD users? by piobair · · Score: 1

      I was really disappointed for OSX for unix geeks. This book should be titled OS X for Unix newbies. I expected more of a cross-reference style approach: Here's how you do it in *nix Here's how you do it in OS X. What I got was some very basic Unix tutorials. My NextStep 0.8 documentation (circa '87) is MUCH more helpful than this book.

      --
      I have a second sig, I call it sig#2.
    5. Re:OS X books written for FreeBSD users? by swb · · Score: 1

      My gripe about these kinds of text exactly. I've been running x86 unices in a professional capacity (first Linux, now FreeBSD) since '97. I don't need a UNIX how-to book, but a cross-reference book that addresses OS X as a Unix OS as compared to its BSD brethren.

      I could, of course, just muddle through and figure stuff out, but I have less patience and free time than I used to.

    6. Re:OS X books written for FreeBSD users? by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      They're called OS X in a Nutshell and OS X for Unix Geeks, both from O'Reilly. This book (Missing Manual) was never for your needs.

  41. Not a good resource by DrRobert · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This book has too little technical info for knowledgable mac and unix users and for newbies... well there are just better ways to do things than the book describes. I'd skip this one on all counts. I do find Pogue amusing at times though.

  42. Re:The "slashdot" factor by feldsteins · · Score: 1

    And you can rise above your name, get an account and stand by your words.

    I believe this site should adhere to it's "news for nerds" tagline site rather than being strictly a "news for Linx-zealots" site.

    --
    You like your Macintosh better than me, don't you Dave? Dave? Can you hear me Dave?
  43. Mac OS X: TMM: The Missing Review Info by scout.finch · · Score: 1

    For actual info about what's in the book, take a look here:

    It has the table of contents, a sample chapter, and is the butt of a multi-tiered joke.

    1. Re:Mac OS X: TMM: The Missing Review Info by scout.finch · · Score: 1

      Preview buttons are for the weak!

      O'Reilly's Info Page for Mac OS X: The Missing Manual

    2. Re:Mac OS X: TMM: The Missing Review Info by mrmez · · Score: 1

      Sorry - I had to say this: Your post seems to have been Mac OS X: The Missing Link.

  44. I know who you are. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    S. Ramsay I'd recognize your "voice" anywhere. Ha!

  45. Yeah, Macs Suck by macguiguru · · Score: 0

    Right. Whatever you do, Do Not Buy Macs.
    Ever.
    Really.

  46. Re:Mac problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In addition, during this file transfer, Netscape will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even BBEdit Lite is straining to keep up as I type this

    You're unable to use Netscape. Well, if you're using an 8600 you're probably using some version of the Classic OS (8.x-9.2.x). If BBEdit Lite is choking "as you type this" how did you post your article? Using IE with the other 3 MB of RAM leftover?

  47. I agree! by macguiguru · · Score: 1, Informative

    The Pocket Guide is also great - just what you need when you're trying to remember a specific command. The nutshell book is superb in that it gives you the full tour and touches on all the portions of the OS that the average user AND the super-geeks will use. I also recommend it.

  48. Re: Mac program UIs by op51n · · Score: 1

    That's what I'd say is my biggest reason for not going near Macs.
    Aside the speed problems I have noticed on evry Mac I've used (and yea, maybe I'm running a fairly fast PC, and can get it to run cleanly (I had a celeron 300 oc'd to 400Mhz for a few years that ran as well as most of my friends Ghz machines, it was only with games as recent as GTA3 that I had no choice but to upgrade if I wanted to play)) but the UI for all the Mac programs seriously puts me off.
    Programs like BBEdit, just do not compare to Textpad which has all the options I want, and listen to most of the options it's users would like. It's front end is simple, and clean, and nice, whereas the UI for every Mac program I have ever used, just feels clunky, slow and nasty. Almost plasticy, just like XP (though OK, not nearly as painful).

    I agree that in OSX is by far the best Mac OS yet, but I still feel, personally, that the Mac has too many letdowns for me to use seriously.
    I have approached using a G4 for music purposes, or graphic design, but at every turn I have found a way to use a PC to do the same, faster and better, and that allows me to stick with a system that runs faster and more like the way I want.

  49. Re:Dear Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is a statistically provable fact that there are more gay men using PCs than Macs, through sheer marketshare.

    Besides, how do you account for the gay man's superior sense of style?

    And, how do you account for proving this point by cutting-and-pasting the same woefully pathetic incendiary letter on every single goddamned Apple post?

    How, AC, do you reconcile the fact that you are somehow *threatened* by what is (by your own admission) the Mac's superior technology? How do you respond to that without looking, to all the world, like Jackass Prime?

    Answer: you don't.

  50. Good point by macguiguru · · Score: 0
    I have to agree - our house is a mixed bag, two Macs, two PCs. My wife is the PC user and a definite 'average user' - when she got her new M$ mouse with a scrollwheel, she went flat-out bonkers for it.

    The 'single button mouse appeals to novices' argument just doesn't hold water.

    Why doesn't Apple consider one? Good question.

  51. Re:Mac problems by Big+Mark · · Score: 1

    I dislike Macs as they are nigh on impossible to use.

    For starters: The maximise button does not work. Want an app to fill the screen? Tough, you cant. At best you'll get a highly annoying 10px margin all around the window, at worst it will go into some completely unwanted portrait-orientation that can even leave you with less of an app window size than you had before.

    Similarly, the application's menubar is ALWAYS at the top of the screen. Right at the very top. You have to go out of the application, to go to it's menubar! Where's the sense in that?

    Their keyboards and mice are utterly horrible to use, but they can be replaced so that's a short term problem.

    Want me to use a Mac? Make MacOS user friendly then. All this guff about it being THE user-friendly OS applies only in the days when the alternative was command-line DOS.

  52. Re:Mac problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a Mac over other faster, cheaper, more stable systems.

    Cuz their 'l33t'

  53. Or get it with OS X by mcgroarty · · Score: 1
    Just for fun, I wonder how fast a slashdot review drives up an auction for the book with OS X thrown in. :)

    I'm opening a betting pool. My cash says it'll go for $30 plus the resulting moderation level of this post.

  54. When can we expect... by s88 · · Score: 1

    MacOS Y: The missing Operating System?

    Scott

  55. Re:The "slashdot" factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this site has nerds, and then mac using nut cases like you.

    you aren't a real nerd.

    remember that.

  56. Re:Mac problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The things you complain about are actually features:

    First, there is no "maximize" button, there is a "zoom" button. The zoom button increases the size of the window to be just big enough to show the -content- of the window, not to blow it up to the full screen with lots of useless white space inside the window. The way Windows insists on maximizing a window to make it larger than the content of the window is one of the STUPIDEST things in an OS that is filled with human interface blunders. The Mac gets it right.

    Second, the menu bar is at the top by design. You never have to wonder which menu bar to access. Also, according to Fitts law, putting the menu bar at the top and having only one of them visible at a time greatly speeds up user interaction with the program.

    The reason that the windows UI has "maximize" is to do two things: (1) cover up the plethora of menu bars to relieve the confusion of the poor user, (2) to force the menu bar to the top of the Window! The Mac gets it right on both counts without the collateral effect of useless white space in "maximized" windows.

  57. You have no sense of humor. Get over it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was meant to be a joke.

  58. Games by mobileskimo · · Score: 0

    I think the title says it all. But incase not, I'll elaborate. Some games are clearly games you want to play with a mouse. And some games you clearly want more than one mouse button.

    However, to apply to the larger theory about multiple mouse buttons and ergonomics, it is more desirable to put more buttons on the mouse. Like all things, too few or too many

    --
    "Last one in is a rotten goblin!" - Kepp
  59. Re:Mac problems by djward · · Score: 4, Informative
    For starters: The maximise button does not work. Want an app to fill the screen? Tough, you cant. At best you'll get a highly annoying 10px margin all around the window, at worst it will go into some completely unwanted portrait-orientation that can even leave you with less of an app window size than you had before.

    This illustrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the "maximize" button, which in MacOSX is NOT a "maximize" but a "zoom" button. It switches between the default and the user-resized sizes of the window. In specific situations (such as the Finder) it resizes the window so the most content is displayed WITHOUT HOGGING THE WHOLE SCREEN. Why you would want to waste valuable screen real estate on blank space in a "maximized" window is beyond me...

    Similarly, the application's menubar is ALWAYS at the top of the screen. Right at the very top. You have to go out of the application, to go to it's menubar! Where's the sense in that?

    There is a fundamental tenet of interface design that says that targets on edges of the screen are "bigger", that is, quicker to reach than targets at some random location in the screen space. It is faster to reach a menu for a relevant app that is along the top of the screen than if it is off in the middle somewhere, even if the top of the screen is farther from the cursor.

    Another reason for having one menubar at the top is so there is only one application's menus visible at the same time. This eliminates screen clutter and user confusion - you don't have to think about which menu to go to. Again, more efficient.

    Their keyboards and mice are utterly horrible to use, but they can be replaced so that's a short term problem.

    This is purely personal preference. The Apple pro keyboard and mouse are some of the nicest I've used. The older, condensed keyboard has it's problems, but types really well. As you said, any old USB kb/mouse will work if you need more buttons or some other form of keyboard.

    Not to feed a troll, but these things are the way they are for a reason, and actually serve to make the UI MORE useable.

  60. RantTime: How did this make the front page? by masq · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Mac Zealots, Please Note: I'm not knocking OSX, and I'm not knocking this book, and I'm not knocking the review. It's just not front page material. Let me explain.

    It doesn't apply to people who don't use OSX, and it doesn't really apply to experienced users of OSX. It only applies to a very specific subset of a very small userbase, ONE WHICH HAS THEIR OWN SECTION.

    It's like having a filing cabinet marked "Apple Stuff" and then putting all your files into "Miscellaneous" instead. If the article is of WIDESPREAD GENERAL INTEREST, then put it on the front page. If it is IMPORTANT or URGENT (like security alerts), put it on the front page. Otherwise, put it ONLY where it belongs. We ARE smart enough to find it.

    Slashdot Editors: PLEASE use the system YOU yourselves have created. The main page should have LESS superfluous junk on it, and the sections should be more specific and detailed. If we want to read about Apple, we click the Apple link. If we want to read about BSD, we click BSD. It's easy. It's logical. It works. Unless YOU don't let it work. Please be discerning. I don't see a book review as a "Headlining Story".

    Or are you going to have a Slashdot Platinum Supreme(tm) plan, where we pay to have things sorted correctly? ;-)

    Bah. Don't ask me - what do I know, anyway?

    Yours Truly,

    J. Jonah Jameson
    Daily Bugle

    1. Re:RantTime: How did this make the front page? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems to me that other book reviews are featured on the front page--how many people actually USE Ruby and yet I have seen such book reviews on the front page.

      Why not this one?

      >>Bah. Don't ask me - what do I know, anyway?

      I don't recall anyone asking you. You are offering an opinion, which is different than responding to a question. Or don't you know that difference either?

    2. Re:RantTime: How did this make the front page? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you don't want apple stuff on your front page, turn it off in your options!

    3. Re:RantTime: How did this make the front page? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      >>Bah. Don't ask me - what do I know, anyway?

      I don't recall anyone asking you. You are offering an opinion, which is different than responding to a question. Or don't you know that difference either?


      Don't you know who J. Jonah Jameson is? That last part was obviously a joke. Or are you just another Mac shill looking for a fight?

    4. Re:RantTime: How did this make the front page? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mess wit da mac, you get da karma smack.

  61. Painful reminder that OS X is not ready by Phroggy · · Score: 1

    My eMac decided to lose its hard drive for no particular reason. Held down the Option key on boot, and nothing showed up. Zapped the PRAM. Booted from an OS X CD, ran Disk Utility, found a minor issue, repaired it. Still couldn't boot.

    Booted from an OS 9 CD, opened the Startup Disk control panel, selected the System folder, rebooted, and everything is magically back to normal.

    Macs are usually painless and simple, but they do have their quirks. Mac OS 9 is built around these quirks. Mac OS X is not.

    --
    $x='S24;r)>63/* h@<5+oZ)32"5cz';$me='phroggy'x$];
    $x=~y+ -xz+\0-Tx+;print$_^chop$me for split'',$x;
  62. Re:Mac problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Another reason for having one menubar at the top is so there is only one application's menus visible at the same time. This eliminates screen clutter and user confusion - you don't have to think about which menu to go to. Again, more efficient.

    It could also cause more confusion. You need to pay attention to which window is active before selecting the menu, but the name of that window is not shown on the menu (you'd have to search the screen to find the active window name). If the menu is on each individual window, you'd know exactly which menu you're accessing without thinking about it.

    This is something that can be argued either way, so making it a user preference might be a good idea. IIRC, KDE allows you to select between having one menu at the top of the screen, or having a menu on each window.

  63. David Pogue better get ready... by oncee · · Score: 1

    because there's a new release of OS X comming this summer, and I'm sure there will be a lot of changes that will require a new edition. It is an excellent book. BTW.

  64. Re: Mac OS X spreads evolutionist propaganda! (OT) by malthusan · · Score: 1

    From an Addendum to the linked article:
    "ADDENDUM III (4/20/2002): Another reader (it has been busy today!) has informed me of another link between Apple and the forces of darkness that my initial research missed. Apparently the Darwin OS is not the original creation of Apple Computers but is instead based off of an older, obsolete OS called "BSD Unix". The child-indoctrinatingly-cute cartoon mascot of this OS is a devil holding a pitchfork (pictured right). This OS -- and its Darwin offspring -- extensively use what are called "daemons" (which is how Pagans write "demon" -- they are notoriously poor spellers: magick, vampyre, etc.) which is a program that hides in the background, doing things without the user's notice. If you are using a new Macintosh running OS X then you probably have these "daemons" on your computer, hardly something a good Christian would want! This clearly illustrates that not only is Macintosh based on Darwinism, but Darwinism is based on Satanism."

    heh...this site is almost as good as Landover Baptist

  65. System 7 by oneiros27 · · Score: 1

    Oh, don't get me started on System 7. What a hog that was.... I mean, they wanted you to have 4 megs of RAM. Four whole megs! Suddenly, you couldn't opt to run with the finder, or the multi-finder, they forced being able to run multiple applications at the same time on you!

    Oh...and aliasing...big deal, I had that in 6.0.4
    from some shareware system extension. [hey, wait a minute....isn't this that point when they sprung that foul 'balloon help' on us? Oh, yeah, 350k of extra crap in the system folder... and thanks to them, we get today's 'tool tip' crap.]

    --
    Build it, and they will come^Hplain.
  66. Admittedly, some Christians are overly sensitive.. by QuiGonJin · · Score: 1

    I've been a Mac user since 1991. I'm also a creationist and a Christian. I've read this site before. While I would never deny there is a pro-evolutionist slant in the world today, I hardly think that the Mac is a satanic platform. People like this, while no-doubt well-intentioned, sound so ridiculous that they water-down legitimate points of contention. This allows evolutionists to discount valid arguments, pointing to ludicrous web sites like this as reasons to distrust the lot of us. Very sad.

  67. Re:Mac problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It could also cause more confusion. You need to pay attention to which window is active before selecting the menu, but the name of that window is not shown on the menu (you'd have to search the screen to find the active window name). If the menu is on each individual window, you'd know exactly which menu you're accessing without thinking about it.

    You might try actually using a mac before complaining about the interface. The top-of-screen menu bar always displays the name of the topmost application on the far left; the situation you complain about simply never arises.

  68. Get OS X Unleased 2nd Edition instead by hoytt · · Score: 1

    I was looking at several books to have as a reference last year (still on 10.1) and I decided I preferred J&W Ray's "OS X Unleased" over the Pogue book and Jesse Feiler's one. There's a second edition out now also covering Jaguar and I can find little wrong in the book. It seems to be written for the more advanced Mac user, since it seems to assume certain GUI actions are known. Its section on the BSD core however is excellent. Although Apple made some changes going from 10.1 to Jaguar, most things in my book are still relevant and I'm sure the 2nd edition will have the updated stuff. (Apple switched from wget to curl at one point)
    If you're interested in OS X and using a mouse is a known thing, I'd think this book will help you more to get the BSD core. It includes chapters on Apache (including the webDAV and MP3 mods), sendmail, FTP and more very useful things.

  69. Re:The "slashdot" factor by kalidasa · · Score: 1

    It's a niche effect. Mac users are what, 5% of the user base? They can either feel like losers being left out, or like the elite. So they choose to feel like the elite.

    (A Mac user, though not at the office).

  70. Re:Mac problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you weren't so fixated on The Microsoft Way It's Done, you'd find it is actually easier to have the menu bar Always On Top and at the top of the screen. And the "maximize" button (it's called a zoom button) does something different from what it does on a Windows computer, it changes between the default size and the largest size you've chosen.

  71. OS X for UNIX Geeks by ChuckleBug · · Score: 1

    What I got was some very basic Unix tutorials. My NextStep 0.8 documentation (circa '87) is MUCH more helpful than this book.

    While there is some pretty basic stuff about using the shell, I think this comment is a bit unfair. The stuff about fink and other package management, building packages, and the xnu kernel are not what I'd call "very basic." I liked the book not so much because it taught me anything new about Unix, but because it told me the things I needed to know about Darwin's quirks, like its directory structure for example. It helped me get some stubborn source code to compile.

    The stuff about X11 is a little dated, though, coming as it did just before Apple's X11 betas hit the net. I'd say this book was OK, but not exhaustive by any stretch.

  72. One Button Keyboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I couldn't agree more. A one-button mouse might be nice for a (very) new user, but that's about it. Why does the Mac come with a keyboard and why does this keyboard have more than one key? Because lots of people are capable of using more than one finger.

  73. Re:Hey Pogue... by oncee · · Score: 1

    Now THAT is funny....

  74. lousy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    post

  75. Obviously it goes with... by JudgeFurious · · Score: 1

    ..."Insanely Great" and "Wicked Fast". The hype is comunicable. The OS rocks though.

    This "Ridiculously Brief" explanation was brought to you by the letter "A" and the number "9".

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  76. Helped me switch by timftbf · · Score: 1

    I bought the first version of the Missing Manual when I was considering a Mac rather than a new PeeCee (for Linux, not Windows) just before Christmas. It was a really good introduction to the Mac way of doing things, and together with a couple of afternoons wasted on demo machines in PCWorld and a stray copy of MacWorld convinced me to switch. (At least for my primary desktop. The server boxen still have Linux on, although not all of them are x86, thank $deity!)

    It's been of a lot of use since for the few bits and pieces that aren't immediately obvious and some tricks / shortcuts that I wouldn't have thought to look for without knowing they were there.

    From the way it's presented, I imagine it's aimed at people coming from pre-OS X Macs, but it's still pretty useful for Mac virgins. (Or at least for me!)

    Regards,
    Tim.

  77. Re:Mac problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems the real problem is sitting infront of the keyboard, as usual. Tried an 11MB file (system) on a 100MHz 603E, 64MB memory. Time= 15.5 seconds...

  78. Creationists Confirm: BSD is Dying by ablair · · Score: 1

    It's official; Creationists confirm: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when Objective: Christian Ministries confirmed that *BSD is satanic propaganda, part of a larger campaign by powerful & evil subversive forces such as PBS and Pokemon. Coming on the heels of recent evidence which plainly shows that *BSD is the work of the Devil, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD and it's evil ilk is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by the dominance of Microsoft and Forces of Good in computers.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. As many of us are already aware, it is written that in the coming Armageddon we will see *BSD and it's many daemons vanquished. Red ink will flow like a river of blood.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    Hippie Apple Computer founders Jobs & Wozniak sold their first computer for $666. Their newest computer system is based on 'Darwin' - an open source system named in reference to Charles Darwin. Not only is evolutionism evoked but we all know that open source is just another name for communism. Further, as noted theobiologist Dr Richard Payley states, "Darwin OS is not the original creation of Apple Computers but is instead based off of an older, obsolete OS called 'BSD Unix'" While the clear alignment of *BSD, Apple, & open source with evil might be shocking, Dr Payley says that this is "well known among the computer elite, who are mostly Atheists and Pagans" This is consistent with the strife and 'flame wars' this elite often delight in spreading.

    Due to the troubles of evil, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by something even more sinister who sell another troubled OS. Now according to a consensus of media analysts they will also soon be dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    How long will *BSD continue to shake it's trident in defiance of God? *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be only among evil OS dilettantes. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying

  79. Re:Admittedly, some Christians are overly sensitiv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a joke, laugh.

  80. Re:Admittedly, some Christians are overly sensitiv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately, there isn't a "pro-evolutionist slant" in the world. There is, however, a "pro-moron" slant in the Christian and creationist world. As in, prefers to believe what somebody wrote in a book thousands of years ago to what you discover when you actually look around at the world and pay attention.

    Luckily for creationists, the world has always been a comfortable place for stupidity.

  81. Geeks will also like MacOS X Unleashed by ccmay · · Score: 1
    The most useful book I have read is Mac OS X Unleashed, by Ray. Packed with useful information at an intermediate to advanced level. Has the best discussion of NetInfo I have found. Kelby's Mac OS X Killer Tips is also pretty good for icon surfing and exploring the UI.

    -ccm

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  82. Then use a two button mouse already, everyone by ccmay · · Score: 1
    I hear so much supercilious bitching from the PC zealots about the one button mouse, so it bears repeating: Use any goddamn USB mouse you want and it will probably work fine. You won't even need to install a driver, unlike some shitty OS's out there. Plug it in and then right-click and scroll until your fingernails fall off.

    I use a MacAlly two button optical mouse with a scroll wheel. Absolutely bullet proof.

    I agree that Apple should think about making the two button mouse standard, but doubt it will happen as long as the monomaniacal genius Jobs is in charge.

    -ccm

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    1. Re:Then use a two button mouse already, everyone by Surlyboi · · Score: 1

      I agree that Apple should think about making the two button mouse standard, but doubt it will happen as long as the monomaniacal genius Jobs is in charge.

      Feh, I say keep the one-button mouse standard just
      so we can watch the PC zealots whip themselves into
      a frenzy over it. It's always fun to watch. Meanwhile,
      anyone with half a brain has long since switched it
      out and gotten on with their lives.

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  83. Re: Mac OS X spreads evolutionist propaganda! (OT) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A search on netcraft for crossspot gave the following

    The site crossspot.net is running Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) PHP/4.0.6 FrontPage/4.0.4.3 on Linux.

    I wonder if Dr.Payley knows this?

  84. Re:Admittedly, some Christians are overly sensitiv by MidnightBrewer · · Score: 1

    I apologize, because I'm pretty sure this is an off-topic post. However, I hope it's at least educational.

    Science and religion are mutually exclusive. Science attempts to describe how things work, not debate why they are here. Evolution is not a religion nor an attempt to refute religion, just a description of a biological process over generations of a species.

    Evolution can't be a religion. Religion is the belief (or non-belief) in the nature of existence and the great question of "Why are we here?" (answer: 42). Evolution is a description of a process that takes place within the universe, not without. Describing a scientific process does refute the existence of a Creator because, by definition, any creator exists outside of his creation. The theory of evolution only postulates that biological evolution takes place within the physical universe that we can measure, i.e. within that creation, and therefore does not encompass God.

    If it makes you feel better, you could consider it God's way of getting the job done. It does not exclude instantaneous creation of matter and energy or Creationism, it merely describes one facet of how species survive and are affected by their environment. It's really not as earth-shatteringly profound as people make it out to be.

    Fact: Darwin was a devout Christian his entire life.

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  85. Re:Admittedly, some Christians are overly sensitiv by MidnightBrewer · · Score: 1

    Crap. Checked the post and still missed the typo. Should read, "does not refute the existence of a Creator."

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  86. That is David Pogue's style by peterdaly · · Score: 1

    For better or worse, that is David Pogue's style. He use to write like that for MacWorld, which is where I know his name from. People who buy this book already knowing him will expect that it contains his "jab here and there" style of writting. That's exactly what many Mac user want.

    Believe it or not, he has other books out as well which include Windows XP Home Edition: The Missing Manual. The XP Home books seems to be a hit as well.

    -Pete