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Matrix Reloaded Trailer Released

phreak404 writes "The full theatrical trailer for The Matrix Reloaded was released today. Its in Quicktime, 1000px by 540px, and weighs in at about 100MB. Looks awesome and unlike the previous teasers, actually has some of the plot." As soon as someone puts up a bitorrent we'll post it here. Update: 04/11 00:40 GMT by J : And here it is, http://f.scarywater.net/ (includes links to client download, stats, old torrents, fun stuff like that).

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  1. hmmm.. Woah.... by NullStream · · Score: 2, Informative

    Interesting to say the least but a few of the effects looked a little plastic. It should be a good 2 hour ride though. I'm still wondering which shot "will be so expensive that no one will every copy it."

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    "Survival of the fittest Max, and we've got the fucking gun!" - Pi
    1. Re:hmmm.. Woah.... by Kpt+Kill · · Score: 2, Interesting

      if you feel like spoiling the movie for yourself, go read the issue of newsweek with the matrix on the cover. be warned: it has many spoilers in it and i was angry with who wrote it for not warning the reader before hand.

  2. Warning.. ultra high res needs a fast machine by James_G · · Score: 5, Informative
    The 1000 pixel one needs a fast machine to play it. My P3-800 at work couldn't manage it. They recommend at least a 1GHz machine for it.

    Alternatively, you can download the small, medium or Large versions.

    1. Re:Warning.. ultra high res needs a fast machine by 47Ronin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have it playing in 1600x width on a 450MHz G4 mac. No problems here. Maybe you should upgrade your CPU? :)

      --
      Those who laugh at you for you having a Mac.. are the people who constantly call you to fix their PC.
    2. Re:Warning.. ultra high res needs a fast machine by Doppler00 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My guess is that quicktime isn't very well optimized for the Intel platform. Or, maybe it isn't utilizing all the video hardware that's available.

    3. Re:Warning.. ultra high res needs a fast machine by sebmol · · Score: 2, Insightful

      and the point of that would be?

      Apple is in the business of selling computers incompatible to PC's. Naturally, they would produce software that works better on Mac's than on PC's, especially if it is free.

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      "Light is faster than sound." - "Is that why people tend to look bright until you hear them speak?"
    4. Re:Warning.. ultra high res needs a fast machine by damiam · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Don't buy a 15" tiBook now, wait until they upgrade it to match the 12" and 17" alBooks. If nothing else, the price of the old tiBooks will drop significantly.

      --
      It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.
    5. Re:Warning.. ultra high res needs a fast machine by wheany · · Score: 2, Funny

      AMD 1.7 GHz / 1 GB RAM. Worked fine, except it slowed down on several occations. Especially during fighting scenes and when there was a lot of debris in the air.

  3. Patience is a virtue! by Malc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Am I the only one who doesn't want to see this trailer? The last few years I've gone out of my way to avoid trailers for films I'm interested in. Even for films like Lord of the Rings that I know the story to. The trailer's not going to make me go and watch the movie as I'm already planning to go! All it will do is blunten the impact on the day. I guess I like surprises. Or perhaps I have more important things to talk about over beer with friends.

    1. Re:Patience is a virtue! by FyRE666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or perhaps I have more important things to talk about over beer with friends.

      Which topic of conversation could be more important than Carrie-Anne Moss in a tight leather catsuit?

    2. Re:Patience is a virtue! by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Funny
      Which topic of conversation could be more important than Carrie-Anne Moss in a tight leather catsuit?

      I'll bite: Carrie-Anne Moss without a tight leather catsuit, perhaps?

      (smiles, sighs)

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      Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
    3. Re:Patience is a virtue! by Cranx · · Score: 2, Funny

      Blunten? Don't you mean "embluntenate?"

    4. Re:Patience is a virtue! by StandardDeviant · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why be exclusive? Before removal, during removal, and after removal are all interesting states in the CAM system. :-p~~~~

    5. Re:Patience is a virtue! by UberLord · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'll bite: Carrie-Anne Moss without a tight leather catsuit, perhaps?

      I'll just bite Carrie-Anne Moss with or without the tight leather catsuit ;)

    6. Re:Patience is a virtue! by CaseyB · · Score: 2, Funny

      "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man."

  4. I'm ready.... by jonny-mt · · Score: 5, Funny
    Personally, between The Animatrix, Enter the Matrix, and the Matrix Reloaded, I'm about ready to take the red pill.

    Long as I get some of those cool sunglasses, I'll be okay....

  5. The Matrix by osPDAproject · · Score: 5, Funny

    To tell you the truth, I never saw the first one! *GASP* -1 Flamebait :)

    1. Re:The Matrix by Jim_Hawkins · · Score: 4, Funny
      :: gasps ::
      And you call yourself a NERD!

      :: sputters ::
      Why...you...you...
      ...should never be allowed back on Slashdot!

      ;-)
    2. Re:The Matrix by macshit · · Score: 2, Funny

      this was a HBOC type of guy

      Hunchback of Cleveland?

      HoverBot Overlord Class?

      Hairy Back Oiled Chest?

      --
      We live, as we dream -- alone....
  6. racing the effect by boarder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, screw bit-torrent... until about halfway through your download about 250,000 other geeks finally notice the new story on /. and start downloading. That's when bit-torrent rocks.k

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    IANAL, but I play one on /.
  7. Re:Screw it by subzerohen · · Score: 2, Funny

    403 kbs...

    Obligatory Nelson Quote: "HA HA"

  8. Screw BitTorrent by KilerCris · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Common already, it's getting old, hasn't anyone realized yet that these damn time-warner servers can take a beating and keep dishing it out fast? BitTorrent links are a great idea for helping people get big files from slashdotted sites, but common, no one on a decent connection is gonna get half the speed off bittorrent that they could right off the aol servers

    1. Re:Screw BitTorrent by TeknoDragon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      not for me... 9kbps vs 65kbps

      BT is saving me a 2 hour wait

  9. All right soldiers.... by soulsteal · · Score: 5, Funny
    Time to begin Operation: AOL Bandwidth Freedom.

    Don't stop until we've "liberated" every last kilobit of bandwidth from AOL.

    1. Re:All right soldiers.... by Fryed · · Score: 2, Funny

      I suspect the "shock and awe" phase will begin soon, when AOL's machines begin bursting into flames.

      That, or when they get the bandwidth bill.

  10. ironic by lingqi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Behind firewall so no bit torrent...

    5.7kb/sec currently, and probably will not get better (on a T1, no less), which means:

    waiting 4 hours 42 minutes and 33 seconds to see a tailer for a movie that will last, at most, half of that.

    I am sure there is something wise to be said here.

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    My life in the land of the rising sun.

  11. Summary For Those Without Broadband by Galahad2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.

    1. Re:Summary For Those Without Broadband by unicron · · Score: 3, Funny

      Shit..it'll be out in the theatres before you're done..why bother?

      --
      Finally, math books without any of that base 6 crap in them.
  12. bitorrent links ......... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Medium Quality
    http://www.torrentse.cx/download.php?file =trailer_ final_640_dl.mov.torrent
    http://www.torrentse.cx/ download.php?file=Matrix_T railer_Stutter_Free.mov.torrent

    High Quality
    http://www.torrentse.cx/download.php?file =FINAL+MA TRIX+TRAILER%21.mov.torrent
    http://www.torrentse. cx/download.php?file=trailer_ final_1000_dl.zip.torrent

  13. It's an upside world... by ymgve · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...when the only time slashdot even considers mirroring or give alternative sources to material is when the source is AOL, which has pipes wide enough to max out the lines of all slashdot users at once...

    1. Re:It's an upside world... by VaultX · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not an official thing /. does, it's something the BitTorrent community does.

      Because of this, posters kinda have to come to us, or we have to catch the post in time to make a bittorrent of it, and relay it to a /. editor to have them modify the comment to include a bittorrent, just coincedence the last two bittorrents have been of stuff hosted at AOL.

      --
      - nick
    2. Re:It's an upside world... by Sancho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It would be really spiffy if bittorrent were expanded to handle mirroring of entire webpages, with a sort of plugin allowing something like this in your web browser:

      bittorrent://mirrorable.site.com/filename.bittor re nt

      That way /. could set up bittorrent files for their stories without actually mirroring, and distribute the story across their users pages.

  14. QuickTime is Evil by mE123 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Could some post a version of the Trailer in something other then .mov format... How about in .mpeg or maybe DivX .avi

    I promise double points... and a happy reply

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    "Computer science is as much about computers as astronomy is about telescopes" - E. W. Dijkstra

  15. Mysterious Future by MeanMF · · Score: 2, Informative

    This post shows why "the mysterious future" is a good thing!

  16. Other sizes by fava · · Score: 4, Informative

    A little experimenting indicates that there are other resultions:

    640 pixels (58 MB) and 320 pixels (17.4MB) are available.

    There may be others as well, I didnt try many posibilities.

  17. yeah I'm in a trollish mood by Sophrosyne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm dowloading the trailer... but my only problem with Matrix is that it borrows heavily from other sources of pop culture- I'm sure if you were into the whole main stream hollywood stuff- this movie was fantastic... but if you read Akira way back when it came out or ghost in the shell, saw the subsequent movies- and well generally stayed in the realm of sci-fi- you surley noticed this movie was not shy borrowing from anime and sci fi.
    I personally think the Matrix is cheese, it doesn't have a strong message, and is a little too melodramatic... in music, in story, in the overal mood of the movie. CHEESE..and not even real cheese, like cheeze in a can.
    Its all about kick punch kick, run away, kick punch kick, 3d animation...
    I'm sure I'm going to watch it- but seriously is this cheese really worth all the hype- there are so many other things (movies/comics/anime) that are just so much more deserving.
    Sci-Fi movies have gone to shit- they are nothing more than overhyped action crapola- Star Trek Nemesis blew the big one, not to mention that flick with the electrocution/blow stuff up/jounrey to the center of the earth crap.
    Minority Report on the other hand was great, and well if it counts Monsters Inc. was too- the only two sci-fi movies in recent memory I can stand...
    I'm sure given that this is slashdot I stand alone in this opinion... but that's what forums are for tight?... so enjoy the download :-)

    1. Re:yeah I'm in a trollish mood by anonymous+loser · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You know that the Wachowski brothers based the entire idea of The Matrix on anime, right? That's how they also sold the idea to producers; they showed the guy this anime movie (the producer didn't specify exactly which one in the interview) and said "we want to make a live-action version of this". But they also knew that in order to make the movie they *really* wanted to do (where the protagonist had incredible super powers), they needed to establish a universe where such a thing would be possible. So, The Matrix was written in order to establish that universe, and the subsequent movies will now show the story they originally wanted to tell. Let's hope it's a good one.

    2. Re:yeah I'm in a trollish mood by pVoid · · Score: 4, Insightful
      While I agree with you that sci-fi of the west has gone down the drains, I'm not ready to quickly discredit the Matrix.

      I am a fan of Akira and Ghost in the Shell as well, but there is something to be said about the goose bumps you got the first 5 times you watched the matrix and you saw trinity kicking that cops ass in bullet time.

      Heck, I'm getting goose bumps just remembering how I felt the first time I saw Neo dodge the bullets.

      It's all about enjoying what's there: people whine about Jar-Jar Binks, or Keanu's poor acting, but really, in the end, you come out of that theatre thinking "hey, maybe if I try real hard, I can walk on that wall"... which is exactly why I see these movies... because I want them to transport me somewhere that's not real, and just plain feels cool.

      If you're going in there to come back out with the insights you get after watching Apocalypse Now, your priorities might be wrong.

    3. Re:yeah I'm in a trollish mood by Trogre · · Score: 2, Funny

      Heck, I'm getting goose bumps just remembering how I felt the first time I saw Neo dodge the bullets.

      But he didn't dodge any bullets. He just fell over backwards. It looked silly!

      --
      "Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
    4. Re:yeah I'm in a trollish mood by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 2, Funny
      ...I want them to transport me somewhere that's not real, and just plain feels cool...

      Try narcotics...

      --

      "If anything can go wrong, it will." - Murphy

  18. Re:winzip reports 3% compression by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Informative

    Zip adds error detection though, so you dont get halfway through watching it then have it freeze. It also lets it pass firewalls and prevents browsers from trying to stream it.

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    I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
  19. lacking speeds? by NewWaveNet · · Score: 4, Funny

    368 KB/s 379 KB/s 380 KB/s hmm...i think the slashdot effect is loosing it's power! so sad ;)

  20. Re:Screw it by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "403 kbs...
    Obligatory Nelson Quote: "HA HA"


    Soon the pants will be dropped, and the rulers are going to come out.

  21. Advertising by SlashdotLemming · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I saw more Cadillacs in that trailer than I've seen on the road in the past month

    1. Re:Advertising by TheHandlessKing · · Score: 5, Informative

      Cadillac "donated" 300 of their cars to the film. Apparently they were able to destroy every single one. TheHandlessKing

  22. Now that's odd... by defile · · Score: 4, Interesting

    On my Athlon 700 running Linux and mplayer, it plays smoothly and sharply, but with no sound (not supported).

    On my Athlon 950 running Windows 2000, QuickTime plays sound but drops hella frames.

    Any explanations?

    1. Re:Now that's odd... by The+Bungi · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Any explanations?

      QT sucks unless it's running on a Mac. Not a general statement on Apple software, but their software on Windows feels and acts the same way as IBM's - an afterthought. People complain stuff is not ported to Linux - I wish stuff was ported to Windows correctly.

      I've never really gotten QT to work correctly in Windows. Multiple machines, multiple versions of the OS, etc. Something is always wrong.

      OTOH, on a Mac QT is absolutely amazing, especially the sound.

    2. Re:Now that's odd... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      MPlayer error: requested audio codec does not exist.

      You need to get the 'faad' codec for MPlayer--
      "http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/codecs.ht ml#aac" for a howto.

      Then you can recompile MPlayer and all is good

    3. Re:Now that's odd... by The+OPTiCIAN · · Score: 2, Informative

      > Not a general statement on Apple software,
      > but their software on Windows feels and acts
      > the same way as IBM's - an afterthought.

      I think that's a both very general and apt summary of Apple software on Windows - QT is far from as bad as it gets. WebObjects for windows is a disgrace. Buggy; unmaintaned; just installing it reduces the staiblity of your machine; slow; written in a braindead way so that the frame abstraction acts like it would on a mac (except buggy); too much stuff bundled in the same processes; lots of services running you don't need and which are difficult to get rid of; etc, etc, etc.

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      Believe with me, my saplings.
  23. Sorry... I gotta pull "The comic book guy" by Rooked_One · · Score: 4, Funny

    and say "BEST TRAILER EVER!"

  24. Insert foot. by juuri · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually if you run the numbers even get marginal compression of 3-7% (which is what trailers tend to get) the bandwith saving is huge.

    Think of it this way, 7% of 100 meg times 250,000 downloads. It makes sense to do the compression this way thereby speeding up the slowest part of the whole trailer experience, the download.

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    --- I do not moderate.
  25. AAC Audio? by TwistedGreen · · Score: 2, Informative

    Quicktime 6 uses this new "AAC Audio" standard to replace MP3: http://www.apple.com/mpeg4/aac/

    I'm using Quicktime 5 and mine won't play sound either, in Windows XP. Looks like I'll have to "upgrade." The video quality itself, however, is absolutely amazing.

  26. Indeed you are by Syncdata · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Its all about kick punch kick, run away, kick punch kick, 3d animation...
    And?
    Look, I'm going to watch the Hulk when it comes out too, and I won't be watching for political themes, nor will I watch XMEN2 to see a superb ensemble cast.
    I, and most SciFi/movie fans are going to the matrix, et all, to see the skill with which the production tools are used. Cameras, Sets, Special effects. If you can appreciate what it takes to film a movie and make it visually appealing, there doesn't need to be a subplot about a frenchman contemplating some existential question.
    Just say no to movie snobbery

    --
    "Inattention makes clowns of us all" -Bean
  27. I hope some of that slo-mo was inserted by Galvatron · · Score: 2, Funny
    If the trailer is all actual, real time footage from the movie (ie, none of it was slowed down for the trailer), it looks like they filmed about 10 minutes of footage, and are stretching it out to 2 hours.

    Seriously, I understand that playing with the speed of the camera can make things more dramatic, but that was just ridiculous! It doesn't work if you keep using the same trick over and over again.

    --
    "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
  28. Re:Trailers? by catbutt · · Score: 2, Informative

    from http://www.wordorigins.org/wordort.htm :

    Trailer

    Why are coming attractions of movies called trailers, especially when they come at the beginning of the film? They're called that because they used to to be spliced on the end of the feature film.
    To understand this, you have to harken back to the days when movies were shown continuously in theaters and audiences were allowed to sit through multiple showings of the same movie--the start times were published, and if you came in late you simply sat through the next showing until you came to the point "where you came in." This is not that long ago--I remember when this used to be the practice.

    The coming attractions reel would be spliced onto the end of the last reel of the movie, hence trailer. From the perspective of the audience member who arrived on time or a little early, the coming attractions would appear before the feature, even though technically it was at the end.

    The term dates to 1928.

  29. QT Blows by Sialagogue · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well my theory (oh no, wait, this is actually my direct experience) is that Quicktime for Windows has always been a giant dump. To even imply that it's optimized, or a reasonably cross-platform streaming solution is a joke

    I love people trying to find alternatives to Microsquat, but I hate people trying to foist lazy crap down our throats in the name of Freedom. That baby should either be fixed, or thrown out with its bathwater.

    Sorry moderators, I hate it when my actual opinion sounds like a troll or flamebait, but them's the facts as I see them.

    --
    The only acceptable defense of scientific results is to say that they were the product of the Scientific Method.
  30. The red pill... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Morpheus: Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain. But you feel it. You've felt it your entire life. That there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is but it's there, like a splinter in your mind driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?

    Taco: The Duplicates?

    Morpheus: Do you want to know what THEY are? The Duplicates are everywhere. They are all around us, even now in this very forum. You can see them when you search for old stories or when you view yesterday's stories. You can read them when you go to work, when you go to user's groups, in the background when you do your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

    Taco: What truth?

    Morpheus: That you are a slave to techno news & discussion, Taco. Like everyone else you were born into bondage, born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind.... Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Duplicates are. You have to see them for yourself. This is your last chance. After this there is no turning back. You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how many rabbits are in the hole.... Remember, all I'm offering is the truth, nothing more.... Follow me.... Cowboy Neal, are we online?

    Cowboy Neal: Almost.

    Morpheus: Time is always against us. Please, take a seat there.

    Taco: You did all this?

    Trinity: A-huh.

    Morpheus: The pill you took is part of a trace program. It's designed to disrupt your input/output carrier signal so we can find similar inputs.

    Taco: What does that mean?

    Cypher: It means buckle your seatbelt, Dorothy, because Kansas is going bye-bye.

    Taco: Did you...

    Morpheus: Have you ever read a story, Taco, that you were so sure was original. What if you were unable to tell the difference. How would you know the difference between the original story and the duplicate?

    Taco: This can't be...

    Morpheus: Be what? A duplicate?

    Trinity: It's going into replication.

    Morpheus: Cowboy Neal?

    Cowboy Neal: Still nothing.

    Taco: It's old. It's old.

    Morpheus: Tank, we're going to need a signal soon.

    Trinity: We've got duplication.

    Morpheus: Cowboy Neal, location.

    Cowboy Neal: Targeting almost there.

    Trinity: It's going into the home page.

    Cowboy Neal: Lock, I've got him.

    Morpheus: Now, Tank. Now.

  31. Re:Here we go... by damiam · · Score: 3, Insightful
    one hell of a bandwidth bill, and that makes me happy.

    Remember, financial troubles for AOL mean financial troubles for Netscape, which means 95% of the major Mozilla coders have to find new jobs. AOL isn't completely evil.

    --
    It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.
  32. MBONE? by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 2, Informative

    How would multicasting have helped with this? Isn't multicasting only good for having multiple sources trying to receive the same data at the same time---e.g., broadcasting?

    --grendel drago

    --
    Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
  33. try media player classic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://vobsub.edensrising.com/mpc.php

    it is an enhanced version of windows media playe 6.4

    as long as you have quicktime and real player installed (or figure out how to install the codecs), it plays the movies!

    much faster, none of the crap, easy full screen. what more can you ask for?
    -enjoy

  34. Casting. by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 4, Funny

    nor will I watch XMEN2 to see a superb ensemble cast.

    *cough* Patrick Stewart *cough* Ian McKellen *cough*

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    Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
  35. Exactly the point by phorm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The matrix is about taking the exciting geeky worlds already shown, adding effects and realism to play with the mind, and give something to thrill not only the geeks by the "normal" masses. A lot of people who have watched the Matrix would (unfortunately for them) snub something like "Ghost in the shell."

    And of course, for others, they simply find the most entertainment in this set of matrix clips...

  36. Re:man quicktime is slow by Binary+Boy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know what version you downloaded, but the main (100MB) file I got is significantly higher-res than DVD. DVD is typically 720x480 (NTSC) or in square pixels 640x480, this was 1000x540. That's 540000 pixels versus an effective 307200 pixels, or about 75% more area. It was also encoded at a whopping 5266kilobit/second bitrate, which i more than necessary and explains why some people are having trouble playing it even on decent machines (5Mbit averages in Sorenson 3 is pretty extreme!). This is definitely the highest bitrate Sorenson 3 encoded movie I've ever seen publicly distributed.

    Btw, QT playback on Windows has a lot to do with the video acceleration mode setting. Obviously Sorenson 3 is pretty well optimized for Intel (contrary to other posts) as the same .dll powers Linux/x86 players well

  37. Re:nice of them to make a movie my kids can't watc by Qender · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your kids can't see people kissing but they can see people shooting each other? Seeing violence can have a severe impact on the impulses felt when people are angry. Violence can cause a lot of harm to "childhood innocence". But I don't think seeing sexual acts is really a bad thing. Our whole society is really screwed up in that everyone thinks that interpersonal relationships are something to be afraid of and something to be hidden. You're the reason kids are growing up with so many fears and inhibitions. Besides, the matrix is NOT a kids film, there is no way that it should ever be considered so.

  38. Re:Not this time. by LibertineR · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Oh, dude.

    The first time I saw the Matrix, I was literally in shock. I sat there thru the credits, then got up and bought a ticket for the next showing.

    I doubt any movie will have the same first time effect as Matrix did. Maybe the third of the series at the end of the year, but until then nothing comes close. I dont care about the logic traps, or Keanu's blank stare, the movie rocked.

  39. Re:nice of them to make a movie my kids can't watc by norkakn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think this points out an interesting variation between US culture and that of most of the rest of the world.

    Most of the rest of the world views sex as part of life, not something implicitly dirty (yes, there are many exceptions and I am mainly speaking of europe and canada, for I know little of the rest of the world) while violence is looked upon as a more unnatural non-vital force that can and should be censored. In canada it is fine to have nudity on public channels, more curse words than the US and less stylised news. In the US little kids are taken to extremely graphic R rated movies, but they are closed off from seeing breasts, even in a non-sexual context.

    I guess that in my mind, justified violence and the comodification of sexuality are far destructive than sex. Teaching kids that it is alright to kill people if you think it is ok is worse than teaching kids that sex is okay.

  40. freeway scene poorly encoded by arekusu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is picky (but hey this is a big budget film), did anyone else notice the gamma on the freeway chase scenes? It's very washed out compared to the other clips. There's also a torn frame at 01:23, whoever edited the trailer together wasn't paying attention very closely...

  41. Re:nice of them to make a movie my kids can't watc by 3263827 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You didn't say how old your children are, but you implied that they are between 15-17 years old. If you think that 17 year olds aren't well informed about sex (by their peers and by experience), you don't get out much. Expecting a movie to teach or reinforce values is a joke. That's what parents are for.

    Besides, with logic like this:

    And, finally, if you really believe (especially American) society is growing up with any discernable fears and inhibitions, I guess you don't get out much. From what I see, it's a bit too unafraid and uninhibited.

    It's not hard to see why kids have trouble in this world. You'd rather have kids grow up paranoid and afraid? I'd rather my kids grow up educated, confident, and grounded in morals that I've encouraged by thoughtful debate, not by sheltering them from the reality of the world.

  42. Re:nice of them to make a movie my kids can't watc by Chris+Carollo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    15-17 year olds can't handle "some sexuality"? You're kidding, right? Minus the violence, my guess is that the sexuality in this movie is going to be so stylized that it would only warrant a PG-13 on its own.

    And no, I'm not going to do some research, because it's just patently absurd to "protect" your 15-17 year olds from "some sexuality". I was a 15-17 year old not too long ago, and my guess is that they currently could teach you some things about sexuality you didn't know -- and that's not a shot at you, that's just the facts of what 15-17 year olds think and talk about. The 17 year old's going to college soon, right? At what point is it going to be alright for him/her to see a freakin' boob?

    Anway, you shouldn't worry so much, because they're probably well on their way (or well past) "some sexuality" of their own. (nudge nudge wink wink ifyouknowwhatImean)

  43. you lie! by mekkab · · Score: 4, Funny

    But what about all that shiny-ness! And all that silver and black?! It was like, WHAM, BOOM, ZAAP!

    And the part where he goes "I just learned kung fu!" its a crime that he didn't win an oscar for it!

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  44. Mplayer audio/sound problem: aac and faad by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 3, Informative
    While to say, "I have solved" would be somewhat incorrect since I didn't solve jack, I just put the pieces together, I can tell people how to make the audio work for this, (and the animatrix movies).

    Basically, as others said, the problem is that the new quicktime movies us aac (advanced audio codec) audio instead of mp3 like older quicktime files. The solution of course is to install aac support for mplayer.

    To do this, first you must install the codec. The codec that supports aac is available at audiocoding.com. It's called FAAD2. I used the cvs (1.2 beta) so I don't know if the stable 1.1 will work. (The 1.1 requires a small patch to get it to compile with newer forms of the libsndfile or forms of gcc > 3.) Other than that it compiled fine. The second change is that the libraries for faad are installed in /usr/local/lib. Apperently mplayer doesn't, by default, look in /usr/local/lib. I symbolically linked the libraries to /usr/lib (where mplayer DOES look), but I assume you could add /usr/local/lib to the search path.

    Hopefully this helps many of the peopole who want to run these and other quicktime files on linux. Mplayer has made great strides and while it's not perfect, (crashes if you try to run 2 qt files back to back without restarting), it is the best there is for linux, (or for that matter any other system). (As an alternate note, the rpm faad2-1.1-fr1.20030409.i386.rpm does not work. While it installs to the correct place, the mplayer config is not able to detect the version of faad from it.)

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  45. Re:nice of them to make a movie my kids can't watc by sreilly · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In your own words...

    Despite the fact that one can probably find a "study" to support any opinion, real "experts" that care more about human lives than they do about getting grants, book contracts or furthering an "agenda" will back me up.

    If you think most religious groups aren't following an agenda with their "research" then you need to take another look.

    Your assertion that love and affection is more damaging to children than scenes of mass killing is mind bogglingly stupid. Ever think that the reason kids today are so screwed up is because they are "protected" from seeing what real love is and instead have to fill in the blanks on their own (based on primal instinct)? The best way to get a kid to do something is to tell them not to do it... or better yet, forbid them from having any knowledge of it, turning it into some exotic taboo that no child can resist investigating.

  46. Re:nice of them to make a movie my kids can't watc by Fruan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Did you completely miss the scene in 'The Matrix' set in the BDSM bar?

    Trinity and Neo's first meeting. In the back ground, fully visible, is the creme de la creme of the Sydney BDSM community, in full, uh, regalia. Latex. Leather. Restraints, Gags, Whips, the whole kinky deal.

    Thematically, of course, it is a perfect fit (For the metaphor impared, Neo is still in the bondage of the matrix at this point in the story).

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  47. Re:QT Blows - GET EO_VIDEO by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 3, Informative

    I *NEVER* keep anything in quicktime format. As soon as this download finishes, it's going straight through EO Video to DiVX, and probably to VideoCD :)

  48. Anyone else notice the odd effect in 1st scene? by SuperBanana · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Anyone else notice that the scene with her falling out the window looks completely fake? Her head moves really weird, in time with each uzi firing a round...her head jumps around or something, really wierd- didn't look right at all.

    I wonder how much scruitiny the big fight scene with the 100 Agent Smiths will stand up to...it sure looked good at full speed. Too bad mplayer doesn't have a slow-mo button. Grrrrr. xine does...

  49. Wow by version5 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You did a really good job of not answering the question.

    You say that "[o]n-screen sex... does something far more permanent and destructive to the mind [than on-screen violence]." You don't say what that is though.

    What is weird to me is that you are OK exposing your children to something that if they imitated, you would be horrified. At the same time, you protect them images of things that you probably expect them to do one day.

    You also mentioned that no-one in your family will be going to see the movie because of the sexual content. Why? You reason that sexual imagery damages young people in some ill-defined way, and yet you protect yourself as well. Does it damage adults as well? Where is the line drawn? Does watching people kiss cause some kind of harm too? Maybe you'd be better off watching Bollywood movies - I believe the Hindu censors are more in line with what you are comfortable with.

    All this talk about studies linking on-screen sex to immorality at home is tedious. Let's be honest - I suspect that you believe that anything of an erotic nature that involves people other than one's husband or wife is strictly forbidden. Thus, anything contrary to this belief is damaging.

    I really think you'd be better off just saying this rather than trying to use studies to prove that you are right. You'd be more likely to convince people by saying "This is my belief, take it or leave it," instead of attempting to prove things to people.

    I think its disingenuous to claim that my experts have an agenda, but your experts are just straight-forward right-thinking folk. Clearly, you have an agenda - that is to prevent people from having sex outside of marriage. The whole STD/AIDS thing you people harp on so much is just a cover. Do you really expect to convince us that you really just want to save us from disease? Its an obvious scare tactic. Now, I'm sure you believe you are doing the right thing, and maybe you are, but why not just be honest? Why doesn't the truth speak for itself? The STD thing is a side issue - be honest. Admit that the main issue is that sex outside of marriage is a sin, and it doesn't matter what studies come up to prove or disprove that.

    So, you're trying to stop people from sinning. Isn't that God's job? I mean, you can only present them with the truth and it is their free-will decision to make to accept or reject it. I presume that God knows what he's doing.

    Apparently, STDs are God's way of punishing the sinners, which is why condoms are not encouraged. If one was careful, one could enjoy virtually unlimited sinfulness. The punishment is circumvented. Indeed, God is circumvented! I can see why you'd want to ban them. Apparently sheets of latex are an effective barrier against acts of God.

    I propose the following: God doesn't care about which bodily fluids you share with which people, or whether the government issued you a license to do it or not. God cares about whether you are doing unto others as you would have them do unto you. This is the whole of the law.

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  50. Pretty sad by TechnoWitch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sex = procreation = creating life

    Violence = killing = destroying life

    How perverse a species we've become, that the former is 'dirty' and 'immoral', whereas the other is 'no great harm'.

    Personally, I'd rather my kids watch people making love all day long than to see a single instance where killing, maiming, and hurting is glorified.

  51. Re:nice of them to make a movie my kids can't watc by spoco2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I tried... I tried so hard not to comment on this thread, but... arrrrgh!

    First up, you haven't demonstrated your research anywhere, even when explicitly asked for it. Which makes me suspect you're bluffing on that front.

    Secondly I find it very, very scary that your 15-17 year olds are being shielded from any kind of sexuality (In this case what will most likely be maybe some kissing, and probably just some tight clothing), but you're perfectly happy for them to see violence en mass... oooo kkkk. I really want to see you back up this reasoning with your research, as I sure don't get what you think you're instilling in your children. (Who at their age are very much young adults now).

    Also, your last point, of American Society not being afraid or inhibited enough... oh come on... not afraid? Why do you have so many guns? Why, whenever I get in an argument with an American as to why they have a gun do they come out with 'so some sicko doesn't come into my house and rape my 8 year old' line?

    People feeling like they have to carry a gun to be safe sure smacks of being afraid to me.

    And uninhibited? Oh come on, the only television in the world that I see someone giving the finger being pixelated out is American television... it's a FINGER people! I spent some time living in America, and I got the distinct feeling that you are, by and large, very afraid, and very inhibited. And by the looks of what you're doing to your children, you're continuing this trend.

  52. Floating wheels and bad FX? by ethank · · Score: 4, Interesting

    OK, not to be nitpicky here, but I went through the trailer frame by frame and am noticing some really terrible stuff going on effects wise.

    Specifically, the freeway scene with the motorcycle chase.

    See this picture:

    floating trucks

    Does anyone else see the problem here? The lighting under the truch is all wrong, and the wheels are floating and not giving any sense of weight. I know its really a little detail, but you can honestly see it on a few of the other cars and trucks in this scene as well.

    Still, it rocks, just get rid of the floating trucks!

    1. Re:Floating wheels and bad FX? by Paolomania · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Does anyone else see the problem here? The lighting under the truch is all wrong, and the wheels are floating and not giving any sense of weight. I know its really a little detail, but you can honestly see it on a few of the other cars and trucks in this scene as well.

      Correct me if I am wrong, but what I believe you are expecting to see are shadows that come right up to the wheels of the trucks - this is a mistaken expectation for two reasons. Firstly, the scene is lit with daylight coming from above and slightly behind the subjects in order to expose them in silouette, with just enough ambient lighting to make a few details distinguishable in each figure. The daylight illuminates some of the roadway that lies z-axis-wise under the truck because the light is not aiming straight down, but rather slightly towards the viewer. Secondly, the scene appears to have been rendered with some form of radiosity-like renderer. This type of rendering method takes into account light bouning around the atmosphere and off the objects in a much more realistic way than the flat ambient coefficient of more simplistic renderers. The end result is that scattered light encroaches even more upon what you are expecting to be a well-defined shadow under the truck. To summarize: this appears to be a fairly realistic rendering with the truck firmly set upon the road, given daylight that is aiming somewhat at us and light from the environment is bouncing around under the truck.

    2. Re:Floating wheels and bad FX? by Kintanon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, most of us don't spend our morning commute making a detailed analysis of the shape and configuration of the shadows under large trucks, or of the way their tires are compressed by weight. In fact, I've never once given a thought to it. So to me, that picture looks totally right and natural because I DON'T FUCKING CARE WHAT THE SHADOWS LOOK LIKE UNDER A FUCKING TRUCK!
      Why the fuck are you frame-by-frameing the fucking trailer? Do you have no fucking life? Get a job you hopless fuck! It's a movie not a fucking documentary it doesn't have to be 100% fucking reality reflecting. It's a movie about a computer simulation of a reconstruction of the 20th century "real" world. Maybe the machines were aware that only 1 out of every 1 billion people in their little world gives a flying fuck what the truck shadows look like so they didn't bother to waste the processing power to render them? Good lord man it's a SHADOW of a TRUCK that's on the screen for about 2 seconds. Let it go.

      Kintanon

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  53. HUMOR: watch the dancing Neos! by reve · · Score: 2, Funny

    Welp, after watching that one I figured someone had to go and make a dancing Neos animation.

    So I did.

    dancing neos at monsterkitty

    oh yeah.

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  54. Re-encoding for slower machines by tarka69 · · Score: 2
    If you're having problems playing the .mov under xine or mplayer (keeps skipping/freezing) mencoder can re-encode it to DivX. The following commandline gives good quality that'll play on my 700 athlon and is a third of the size too:


    mencoder -v trailer_final_1000_dl.mov -oac mp3lame -lameopts cbr:br=128 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=1800


    HTH

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  55. Think of it this way.. by Icephreak1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If missing axles are a mistake, then the black cat scene in the first film ought to be one too. Remember, you're dealing with a construct where Earth-based rules of nature are the exception. Call it what you want -- a production fuckup or intentional ommission, but a movie designed to question itself and normality has the producers covered in a case like this, save of course for spontaneously combuting film reels.

    The Warchowski (sp) brothers have demonstrated they're smart folks with a penchant for unheard of nickpickiness. I'm sure they themselves went through the film with fine-toothed comb, noticed the omission and said "hey, what's a truck without axels in a matrix? Normal!"

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