Safari Beta 2 Available

pldms writes "Safari Beta 2 is available via Software Update or from the Safari page. This is build 73, for those who've had 'exclusive' access to previous development versions since beta 1 ;-) The blurb: 'Safari Beta 2 introduces tabbed browsing to conveniently see and switch between multiple web pages in a single window, and AutoFill to instantly fill out web forms and password fields. This update also features increased standards compatibility and improved application stability.'" I had to set Lax Certificate Checks in the Debug menu to use it with Slashdot ... and its secure cookie check is still quite broken (either saves secure cookies without the secure flag, or sends out secure cookies to insecure sites, which would violate RFC 2965 where it says "no less than the same level of security").

Comments

Can't Wait

[Oculus Habent]

Damn job! Interfering with my ability to play with Safari at home. I can't wait to see how the tabbed browsing implementation looks/feels.

Re:Can't Wait

[babbage]

Don't wait!

ssh $user@$your_home_computer sudo softwareupdate "SafariUpdate-1.0 Beta 2 (v73)"

Et voila -- Safari updated remotely :-)

Mmmmm, nice...

[berniecase]

With browsers this quick, Apple's going to have a hard time selling faster machines :-)

Keyboard Implementation

[henele]

For a touch of karma whoring, for the people who never played around with an 'unreleased' beta (which includes me), the keyboard/mouse controls for tabbed browsing (which is turned off by default, and has it's own tab in the new Safari Preferences).

Apple-Click : Opens a link in a new tab.
Apple-Shift-Click : Opens a link in a new tab and selects it.
Apple-Option-Click : Opens a link in a new window behind the other one.
Apple-Option-Shift-Click : Opens a link in a new window and selects it.

There is also the check box option to always display the tab bar, plus 'Select new tabs as they are created', which alters the above keyboard setup.

I'm on my iBook at the moment, so I'm not sure how these interface with multi-button mice, but I guess you could configure the buttons to correlate with these modifiers, if you haven't already...

Re:Keyboard Implementation

[henele]

Additionally, tabs aren't specifically noted in the 'Window' menu - there is not distinction between a window containing one page and one tab of many in a different window.

Secondly

Apple-Shift-Left or Right : Switches to the previous or next tab in a window, which is nice. It is also circular, so going right when browsing the final tab will bring you back to the first...

Re:Keyboard Implementation

[fhammond]

It gets better..

You can use these features with the right-mouse-button click google.com search. This is where you RMB click a word and one of the options is a google search of that word. Before this new build, it wasn't that useful, as the google search would be done in the same window (i.e. navigating you away for the page you were on).

Safari rocks!

New: "Open in Tabs" item in Bookmarks Bar menus

[Rouxfus]

There's a novel new feature related to the Tabs that bears mention. If you have folder/menus in your Bookmark Bar populated with bookmarks, there's now a menu item at the bottom of that pull-down menu that says "Open in Tabs". If you select this it will create a new tab for all the bookmarks in that group of bookmarks! This is similar to a feature in Camino that lets you set up tab groups. What I'd like to see is the ability to save a tab group or "workspace" out to a special .webloc type file that I can use to launch a bunch of URLs from the dock, or by double clicking, etc. Maybe there's a way to do this right now?

Re:The perfect browser?

[pldms]

Hmm. I'm not sure about perfect, but I was with you in spirit for a while as I tried out the new version. It's an impressive upgrade. Tabs are nice. Speed has improved. All looked well...

Then I went to an ftp site.

For those unaware, Safari can't browse ftp. It delegates it to another application. This is curious, yet might be ok if weren't for the fact that the application in question is the finder, which attempts to mount the ftp site as a disk.

Annoying. And it gets worse, because mounting a remote ftp site often seems to threadlock the entire OS: the dreaded spinning wheel of death.

So I'm currently rebooting thanks to Safari.

(posted using Camino)

Re:Hmm...can't feel much difference :)

[Caleb Rutan]

Well, one thing they fixed, (which is important for web-application people like me) is the form file upload method. In .67 it was broken: no file browser would appear when you clicked 'Choose File', so that is definitely an improvement. It worked in .60, but they managed to break it in between.

Not that anyone using .67 (myself included) had any right to complain about broken features in an unreleased version ;)

Re:Right-mouse button Google feature

[pnaro]

Hold down the command key while right-clicking on the word and selecting "Google Search". It will open up the results in a new tab

Tabs could be trouble at work

[Wyatt Earp]

I surfed over to the Debka file for and my tab for that page reads.

http://www.debka.com/

DEBKAfile, Political Anal

Not something I'd want my boss seeing.

Re:Hmm...can't feel much difference :)

[TheCrimsonUnbeliever]

<quote>I've been trying to make 73 crash by hiding, in the last few minutes to no avail.</quote>

Thanks for that - I have the most wonderfully funny picture of a mac-geek hiding from his computer

"......"

*jumps up*

"BOO"

*safari crashes*

Wither Camino/Chimera?

[MacAndrew]

Another thread here touting Camino was mysteriously modded "flamebait" so here goes...

I have used and loved Chimera for many months for many reasons. As other have found, the renamed Camino is crash-prone, strange in the very last nightly build of Chimera before the trademark-conflict name change (which you can find easily by anonymous FTP to their server) is great. I downgraded to Build 2003030408 and am content.

Now comes Safari, also great, except the lack of tabbed browsing and that awful brushed metal stuff. OK, tabbed browsing is now checked off on the feature list. Safari shares a startling number of other features, and then some. Eventually Safari will be indistinguishable from Camino/Chimera. Congratulations Apple, what a coup.... (Hey guys, add keywords for bookmarks so I can continue to google with "g keyword keyword" and I'll switch.)

So what's the deal for independent software efforts? Bust yourself to develop and demonstrate new UI and core technologies to have them lifted by a large for-profit computer maker? Granted the open source Camino is intended to create new work without profit, but at some point it will also lose the "profit" of public attention, and wither away, and cease to produce new things.

At the least I'd like to see Safari give a nod to Chimera. At the best I'd like an answer from Apple how they're not doing the Internet Explorer thing in miniature, and how non-Apple developers will continue to inspire and be inspired when they face having their work negated in a mere twitch of the tail of the whale.

I'm a Mac person, and back to the years before the Mac (the Apple ][+ is in a box). I think Apple has often done the right thing and will continue to (often) do the right thing. But there is something disturbing in their generous production of free software, similar in effect if not (I hope) intent to what Redmond has done. Be careful, Apple.