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Must-See Films at L.A. Anime Festival

May Kasahara writes "The first annual Los Angeles Anime Festival is being held May 2-15. Among other films screening at the festival are Studio Ghibli's The Cat Returns (making its US debut), Memories, and all nine episodes of The Animatrix. However, the film I really want to see is the trippy-looking Tamala 2010: A Punk Cat In Space. More information, including a full schedule of events, is available here."

153 comments

  1. Sounds Tempting but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd go see all 9 episodes of the Animatrix, but I think Matrix Reloaded at 12 AM takes precedence....

    1. Re:Sounds Tempting but.... by cei · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Animatrix at 9:15 pm. Running time 90 minutes. Walk a block from the Egyptian to Grauman's Chinese Theater and catch up with your buddy who's been waiting in line for you.
      Plenty of time.

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    2. Re:Sounds Tempting but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      and catch up with your buddy who's been waiting in line for you.

      ...cuz Lord knows he doesn't have a girlfriend...

  2. Wish I could be there by wildchild07770 · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    Alas all of these wonderful fests seem to be in far off places like LA and Colorado or NY what about us folk in the midwest. Nothing interesting seems to happen much around here in the way of major cons or fests even though we have Chicago. What gives??

    1. Re:Wish I could be there by cyrax777 · · Score: 1

      Becouse almost all of of the companys are based in either LA or New york.

    2. Re:Wish I could be there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We suck. :( I'm in Madison, WI. Very few interesting things come here, despite the large university.

    3. Re:Wish I could be there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, there always is that anime convention in Peoria! (see: Fanboy Generation X)

    4. Re:Wish I could be there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, I thought colorado was in the midwest...I mean, Chicago is way in the center...

  3. anime central 2003 in Rosemont by cdf12345 · · Score: 2, Informative

    May 16-18, 2003 Rosemont

    it's like 30 mins from chicago if traffic sucks
    so that's your best bet, you could go see the animatrix and fly back for it!

    Sweet deal!

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  4. Will someone show Kodocha? by axolotl_farmer · · Score: 5, Informative

    The list of anime to be shown makes envious...why are there never any anime festivals here in Sweden...

    Is Kodocha ever shown at anime festivals. This is the funniest shoujo anime I've seen. There a a bunch of torrents over at Animesuki.

    Enjoy!

    1. Re:Will someone show Kodocha? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > why are there never any anime festivals here in
      > Sweden...
      [...]
      > There a a bunch of torrents over at Animesuki

      congratulations, you just answered your own questions.

    2. Re:Will someone show Kodocha? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's so called "Rakkautta ja anarkiaa" (Love and anarchy) film festivals in finland. To my knowledge they showed a bunch of anime there this year. So I'd say your best bet is to find independent small film festivals, or interest groups that have access to films and a theatre, and go on from there (or in this case fly to finland 6 months ago).

    3. Re:Will someone show Kodocha? by May+Kasahara · · Score: 1
      I haven't seen the anime, though I love the manga! It's easily the smartest, funniest shoujo manga I've ever read!

      I wouldn't be suprised if fansubs have been screened before at smaller anime fests, but I haven't heard of any official screenings; I don't believe anyone's aquired rights to the series English-language release yet...

    4. Re:Will someone show Kodocha? by mink · · Score: 1

      Childs Toy has been shown at anime clubs for years here.
      It's old news, and since companies only seem to want the latest shows I doubt it will ever see light of day.

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  5. Not quite anime but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    be sure to check out broken saints here.

  6. ah anime by tankdilla · · Score: 1
    Anime is something else. I'm just getting into it and it's mindboggling, and a refreshing alternative to watered-down toons here in the states (watered-down vs. anime toons). I got Evangelion box set a few weeks ago and it is great. Any other cool robot anime that's pretty current (other than gundam)?

    Oh yeah, for a few minutes, it appeared that Slashdot actually got /.'ed before the links to the stories did. Guess it can happen to anyone.

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    1. Re:ah anime by jimbobborg · · Score: 1

      Try RahXephon, Full Metal Panic, Gun Parade March. The first two are available here on DVD, the third via fan subs, as it is still running in Japan.

    2. Re:ah anime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought the opposite. I watched a lot of late afternoon 80s cartoons, and then moved on. Suddenly in the mid-90s it's all huge in geek/net culture again. I thought it was refreshing to be AWAY from it

    3. Re:ah anime by spectral · · Score: 1

      If you thought Evangelion was a robot anime, you're the reason they created the other ending. Congratulations, you missed the point. :)

    4. Re:ah anime by tankdilla · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, they weren't robots, but that's another good thing about anime. I had to watch a few times before I started picking up on little hints throughout the series (the eye, the blood-like fluid, and exposed hand) that I missed or didn't understand from watching it the first time through. I still don't get everything that happened. What other ending is there?

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    5. Re:ah anime by spectral · · Score: 2, Informative

      Evangelion was a psychological anime. The 'robots' weren't really robots, though you appear to have realized that by now ^_^. I get slightly confused as to how many endings there are, and in which order they were released. The way I heard it/understand it is that there is the original ending, which is the psychological one. The last two episodes look like the animators did every single drug and mushroom in the world and then decided to write the script and draw it. It's all in Shinji's head.

      "Air & Heart" is the name of the other ending, which is for the people who thought that it was a robot anime, which they made after much pressure from fans and stuff who didn't like the original ending.

      "Death & Rebirth" is a two hour 'recap' of the series, focusing mostly on the combat/robot aspects, for people who wanted to watch "Air & Heart".

      That's basically the way I understood it, and I just confirmed it with a friend who thought the same way. So hopefully there's a little bit of factual information in there. :)

    6. Re:ah anime by BJH · · Score: 1

      "Little hints"?

      Which ones were they - the scene where the main character masturbated over a catatonic 15-year-old girl, whose mother committed suicide after her husband started having an affair? The fact that the main character's mother died in an accident while inside an Eva - the same Eva that the main character was forced to ride in! Boy, that sure was a coincidence. Not to mention the other woman who committed suicide because the man she loved didn't care for her, but only for a five-year-old girl (who the woman strangled to death, by the way). And darned if that girl wasn't a clone of the woman who the main character's father really did love, except that the girl also had some genetic material from Lilith - or was it Adam? I never could keep those two straight - who were the source of the Angels and the Eva, who the main character's mother had conceived of as a way of ensuring eternal life for the human race, except in the end the girl whose mother committed suicide convinced the main character to forego that option by emotionally scarring him for life.

      Now, how many times did you say you you watched it before you picked up on the "little hints" that it wasn't your average giant robot anime?

    7. Re:ah anime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Anime is something else. I'm just getting into it and it's mindboggling, and a refreshing alternative to watered-down toons here in the states (watered-down vs. anime toons)."

      Wanna bet?

      There's plenty of stuff in the world of anime that's worse than the most pathetic of 'Western' cartoons.

      The fact that you've seen Evangelion (and possibly Gundam) shows that you likely haven't encountered some of the real gems of filth that are out there.

      Here's the problem, I think. The term anime encompasses far to much. It encompasses cartoons, and things that aren't cartoons but simply animated.

      Evangelion is a mind fsck. Gundam Wing is a mind fsck once you get past all the shiny robots blowing things up and think about what's being discussed. (I can't speak for the rest of the Gundam series.. serieses.. seriesi?, as I haven't seen them all.)

      These ain't cartoons(tm). Oh, sure, the intelligence level of them is brought down a few levels when they're dubbed for US/etc. audiences, but they're still not comparable to the Saturday Morning Crapfest. (Thousands of kids who grew up during the 80s are rolling over in their graves today!)

      But then you've got the various anime series that are about sex and breasts that would give a chick severe back pain by the time she was 26. Or the ones that are sickeningly cute to the point of demanding violence. Or the ones that just suck.

      Err, right. It's nearly 6 am, and I just woke up. Getting slightly back on topic, blanket statements about anime == BAD.

      Ah! There it is! Anime is like music! On the whole, music might probably be considered good, until you run into the animated equivalent of 'gangsta rap' and realize, "Fer christssake! This is utter crap!"

      Right.

    8. Re:ah anime by Hast · · Score: 2, Informative

      "End of Evangelion" is the ending you're looking for. It's really quite good and it ties the end of the TV series together in a way which makes a tad bit more sense. (Although not a hell of a lot. ;-) BTW, Air&Heart is the first part of EoE.

      I always liked the idea that the last two eps are going on inside Shinji's head while the first part of EoE shows what happens in the normal world at the same time. Others seem to prefer the idea that the last two eps of the TV show happen after the "third impact".

      In any case, the main thing I like about Eva is that it really rewards those who think about about it. Just imagine what someone like the guy who had written an essay on how things in The Matrix worked. If someone like that began working on Eva I'd almost pity them. ;-)

      There's a bunch of fansites which analyse the series though. Most likely you'll end up learning a lot about christianity as well, since that's the basis for a lot of the things in Eva.

    9. Re:ah anime by wmacgyver · · Score: 1

      Try Zone of Ender

    10. Re:ah anime by spectral · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I've tried to understand Eva.. it hurts my brain to think about it too much. That and Lain. Both very good series. And I forgot to mention Lain earlier when someone else was asking me for a list of stuff I liked. I liked a lot, I just listed some of the more recent stuff I could remember watching.

      So yeah, Lain's good too if you liked the aspects of Eva that made you think. If you thought it was cool cuz stuff got blown up, then maybe Lain wouldn't be so good. ;)

    11. Re:ah anime by Baiken · · Score: 1

      any other cool robot anime?

      search no more, go for gasaraki, one of the best in recent time, deep political plot, tactical military armor seen as it should be seen( a military tool far better than any tank), a little of supernatural fenomena, characters that act and look like real people, just go and search for it( if you are an stalwart patriot, dont see the episode when 4 tactical armors beat the crap out of a full abraham M1 tank battalion, its ugly)

      anime is at its best these days...

    12. Re:ah anime by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      The "Eva units" in Evangelion were more robot-like than the mechanized battle suits from a series like Gundam or Golion.

      Prehaps you don't know what a "robot" is? It's an artificial machine that moves by itself. An "automaton". The very first use of the word "robot" was in reference to artificial slaves that rebel against humankind.

      Anything with a pilot in it is not a robot. "Powered suit" is an appropriate term, so is "battle armor". In fact, the word "mecha" is often used...

      There is such a thing a robot anime. Chobits for instance. But Evangelion doesn't count.

    13. Re:ah anime by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      You failed to read his post correctly.

      He didn't say "not your typical robot anime". He said "not your typical robots".

      The "hints" referred to were the evidence that the Evangelion units were biological/supernatural, and not purely mechanical.

      I wouldn't exactly call them hints, though. They really bludgeon the idea over your head in the first 2 episodes, but tune it down from there.

    14. Re:ah anime by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      Gasaraki was promising for the first 4 episodes. The best of Clancy and Evangelion. Then just as the war was about to heat up, they fly back to Japan and it veers back to bland corporate/government/alien conspiracy sameness.

      tactical military armor seen as it should be seen( a military tool far better than any tank)

      Tactical armor shouldn't be "better than any tank". It should be superior to tanks in some situations.

      The military planners in the beginning spoke of Tactical Armor as an advantage in urban combat, a form of super-infantry invulnerable to small-arms fire, able to out-manuver and waylay tanks and aircraft. A weapon that's powerful, and almost believable.

      Instead, they quickly turned into magical supermen, capable of easily sprinting 80kph over rough terrain, dodging bullets, and all the rest.

      The tearing point was when the hero's squad of 4 TAs is standing around a flattened town in the middle of a dustless desert in broad daylight. Enemy helicopters detect them- and instead of firing some kind of medium-range heat-seeking missles (Hellfires anyone?), they land next door and deploy their own TAs.

      4 tactical armors beat the crap out of a full abraham M1 tank battalion

      Yeah, and nobody spanks a mecha with a LAW. I believe that.

    15. Re:ah anime by mink · · Score: 1

      Duh.
      Thats why they call the show Mobile Suit Gundam. Not Big Robot Gundam.

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  7. Anime?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Im not trying to troll, but...

    I was wondering, just how popular is Anime amongst /.ers?

    Is this really something that everyone likes?

    Or is it just a category because Taco likes Anime?

    Same thing with The Matrix? Is it really needed that there be a whole category just for the matrix?

    There seems to be a HUGE range for these suject categories. Apple is a big category, so is Hardware. But I am confused why we have such general categories for most things, yet specific cetegories for others.

    1. Re:Anime?? by buyo-kun · · Score: 2, Funny

      Let me put how I like anime this way. I have 40 different, complete, anime series.

    2. Re:Anime?? by Jacer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a needs basis. Maybe The Matrix has it's own category on the premise that they understand many people want to filter out all articles dealing with it. A lot of news and information about The Matrix means that a lot of people who could care less may get upset. It just gives them a way to 'skip' the news. Dealing with the rest of your comment, Anime, by and large, is considered fairly geeky. Even if only ten percent of Slashdotters are 'into' anime, that's a large enough demograph to target.

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    3. Re:Anime?? by thomasiomichelangelo · · Score: 1

      I'm just beginning to get into anime, and it's fantastic, visually impressive, detailed and some (not all) have amazing story-lines. It does seem rather over the top to have a category just for anime or just for the matrix, but anime is extremely popular on the net (and is probably considered by many to be 'nerdy', a category on /. for it is fitting. And the matrix is one of the most (if not the most) technologically innovative films ever.

    4. Re:Anime?? by spectral · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the categories might be there since there are frequently stories in them. The matrix gets probably as much stories as half of all other movies combined here on slashdot, especially with the sequels and animatrix episodes. Therefore, people who hate the matrix and don't want to hear about it can filter it's topic.

      Same with anime. I think having more fine-grained topics is GOOD. I agree with Apple as a topic. PC users who don't care/hate apple might just block it. Breaking apple down in to smallter categories might be a bit much. People who like apple hardware probably would be interested in apple software as well (since they do often go hand-in-hand there). Then there's the hardware buffs, etc.

      I dunno, I'm all for smaller topics, not larger ones, but making them TOO small seems rather annoying/odd. (How many people have interests only in network cards, but not in Video cards, sound cards, or all computer hardware/technology? Breaking 'Hardware' down would be somewhat odd. Also, how often are there stories devoted to network cards to make it worth it?)

      The matrix and anime are posted in to a decent amount, and they're there so you can filter them out if you want.

    5. Re:Anime?? by bm_luethke · · Score: 3, Informative

      So, I'll give my experience.

      I work at a US national lab in High Permformance Computing - plenty of geeks. In the older crowd (30+ to 35+) not really that relevant. Most know nothing about it or think "cartoon == kids" 30- tends to like cartoons in general.

      The current group I am in I am the next to youngest (28) and am obsesed with it. The youngest has (24 I think) has never weighed in. The others (29, early 30's, 40's) think it is sorta wierd but have never really watched any (other than the wierd stuff I have explicitly showed them - though to be fair they don't watch much of anything, either tv or movies).

      As far as students go. The first year - one against (again in the 30's), three indiferent. They thought some stories good, some bad. Treated it as any other movie.

      Next year, one indifferent, one obsessed, one generally liked it.

      the last group I never polled about it.

      So, I would say it definatly has a large enough crowd to justify being on slashdot, that it is not just "Taco like Anime". Though it is not universal. It is almost a correlation of 1 of likes anime and likes video games. That, in and of it self, lends me to think it is valid.

      Now the decision for animefu as the anime widget is more of a question...

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    6. Re:Anime?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anime is shit! You just like it because that's what geeks like, so you follow.

      You want to be different, just like everybody else.

    7. Re:Anime?? by tdelaney · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Obviously, I can't speak for slashdotters as a whole, but I can give my experience.

      When I was a child (mid-70s - 80s) I found that there were some cartoons that I really enjoyed, and some that I didn't.

      Somewhat later (when Robotech came around) I discovered that nearly all the shows I had enjoyed originated in Japan - Kimba the White Lion; Astro Boy; Voltron (vehicles and lions); The Mysterious Cities of Gold; Star Blazers; Battle of the Planets; Ulysses ...

      OTOH, the shows I disliked were universally from the US - Scooby Doo; Flintstones; Jetsons ...

      As time went on I discovered that I *still* didn't like most US animation, but I did enjoy most Japanese animation I watched. There were some US shows I enjoyed (e.g. Simpsons) and some anime I detested (e.g. Debutante Detective School).

      Eventually I worked out the major things I liked and disliked. I enjoy story- and character-driven shows. I dislike episodic shows with no connection between the episodes and no character development. Of slightly lesser importance is character design and the overall look of the show - I *like* most of the anime character designs (esp. Miyazaki and CLAMP designs) and anime shows tend to look better in general - more attention to background detail, etc. OTOH, I'm currently watching "The Soultaker" and I don't overly like the look ...

      There is a *much* greater percentage of anime which is character- and plot-driven than US animation. The Simpsons is a character-driven show - most of the episodes don't have much to do with each other (though they often refer to previous events), but the characters are well-developed - they have real (caricatured) personalities. There are others, but they're few and far between (and of course, there are shows such as "King of the Hill" that I'll never watch because the ads just turn me off).

      I just finished watching "Burn Up Excess" today. It's a show with ridiculous storylines, huge breasts and unrealistic hair colours. It's also a lot of fun, with an on-going storyline that develops over the series, and characters whose stories draw me in *despite* the huge bouncing breasts. Of course, it's not a patch on shows such as "The Irresponsible Captain Tylor" or "Crest of the Stars" or "Kiki's Delivery Service" to name a few excellent shows. It's a (mostly) lightweight bit of fun, and much higher quality than most of the crud I occasionally catch on Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon.

      My personal collection is about 300 or so DVDs, and about 400 VHS (used to be more VHS, but I've managed to sell quite a few ...). All up I have about 200 complete series and movies. I tend to pick and choose my shows quite a bit (for example, I never got the El-Hazard TV series because everything I read said that it wasn't nearly as good as the OAVs) but I've got quite a few in there that I'll never watch again (fortunately, most of those are VHS). There are a number of shows though that I watch time and time again.

      Fortunately, Madman is releasing lots of anime here in Australia now - importing was prohibitively expensive. Oh - and I have lots of manga as well - Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind is definitely my favourite manga. However, the US comics I've enjoyed over the years have also tended to have strong storylines and characters - I don't find *that* great a disparity although no US comic I've ever read has had the depth of "Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind".

    8. Re:Anime?? by Cyno · · Score: 1

      Maybe they put it in a whole separate section so only those readers geeky enough would keep it on their front page. That's the cool thing about a completely personalized slashdot experience and separate categories for things like The Matrix and anime, it allows non-fans to avoid it.

      I enjoy The Matrix and anime because they make me think. They are entertainment as well as provocative revolutionary subjects that force most viewers to question the founding principals behind their society and government.

      I enjoy reading and watching subversive media. Don't you? Or would you prefer CNN?

    9. Re:Anime?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought cnn was subversive.

    10. Re:Anime?? by Vegan+Pagan · · Score: 1

      The downside of anime being the world's only respected (not popular, but respected) form of animation is that it's the kind that's getting most imitated. There are good American graphic novels like Sandman, Watchmen, Dark Knight Returns and Creature Tech that don't fit either into the Disney style of cartooning or the superhero style (Watchmen and DKR have superheroes but show mainly their bad sides), but are still among the world's best graphic novels. You can see some of their style rub off in Tim Burton, Coppolla and Scorsese, but it's sad that they have to be made/adapted into live action and not shown as animation.

    11. Re:Anime?? by Omega's+Wildfire · · Score: 1

      I would have to agree with you on your thought that anime would be considered 'nerdy'. But I say who cares. As long as you are enjoying the entertainment value of your anime of choice. I was first hooked on The Record of Lodoss WAr. Then I think it went to DBZ and Rurouni Kenshin. Since it was pointed out by another /. member that Transformers is actually anime, I would have to say it all started with that. I mean wow! Where else besides anime can you find such detailed character development in a series. Prime time TV can't touch anime. :)

    12. Re:Anime?? by jafuser · · Score: 1

      It's too bad "The Matrix" is a category as it is instead of another word to fit the "living within a simulation" genre. We really don't seem to have a word or title to give to the concept as a whole.

      There's a bunch of great papers on the subject as well, including one that proposes that we probably do live within a computer simulation.

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    13. Re:Anime?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      at least Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns are british (although set largely in america)- I think that this may also be true of sandman, but I cant remember off the top of my head. Could it just be that *whisper it* most (all) good graphic fiction is created by non americans?

    14. Re:Anime?? by buyo-kun · · Score: 1

      You think someone who has 40 anime series is just "Following the crowd." I really hate people who think anime is shit, I really hate people who like anime because others do, and most of all I hate people who think anime is shit and the only people who watch it are following others.

      Answer me this, if anime is shit, how did it become a nerd thing that some idiots do if only to follow others. It is good, otherwise noone would have watched it in the first place.

  8. Anime is different by BlackTriangle · · Score: 0

    Too bad it's for kids, eh? Even the "mature" stuff.

    1. Re:Anime is different by spectral · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, a great number of titles are targeted at "kids", which is people in college and younger. Other people (supposedly) do not have the time to watch anime.

      But the age span of 'kids' is quite different. it goes up to about age 25, where cartoons in america plateau at about what, 9 years old?

      But again, damnit.. anime is just a medium. There's nothing REQUIRING anime to be aimed mostly at college age students and younger, but the older working people here[in japan] often don't have much time to get in to a story like that, and the non-working people just seem to watch gameshows. Though my only experience is one family, from what I've read and observed, it seems to be true for a great majority.. *shrug*

  9. But did you see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that last night.. or 2 nights ago, it completely had a brain fart?

    Yes, that's right, someone was fiddling with slashcode, and you couldn't post any comments!

    What happened?

    I made 4 comments to one story, and then slashcode hiccuped. When it was alive again only 1 of my comments were still there. I think Taco might have been partying and decided to program completely drunk. That's not right, you should only program "really buzzed"!!

    But still, what happened last-last night?

    1. Re:But did you see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude you're a nerd. if slashdot being down for 2 mins gets your mind into a frenzy, you need to get laid, badly.

    2. Re:But did you see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      dude you're a nerd. if slashdot being down for 2 mins gets your mind into a frenzy, you need to get laid, badly.

      You do realise that when you say that other people aren't getting laid, you're just compensating for the fact that you're not getting any?! People who obsess about something are deprived of it. It's called projection. My psych degree has been such an eyeopener!

    3. Re:But did you see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol

      so no one can ever comment on the fact someone is a nerd who's never been laid, without it being "proven" they aren't getting laid either?

      lol

      good one buddy. the fact the guy was shitting a brick because ./ was down for 4 mins still proves my point. (you should have said maybe the guy runs slashcode on his server and he's worried about a dos attack and he has indeed touched a girls tit in his lifetime)

    4. Re:But did you see by nathanh · · Score: 1

      i dunno bout the other dude but i reckon he was saying only sexless tools like u would bother to make claims about other sexless tools. people who are getting action dont bother.

      and your a fucktard for saying lol. only dorks say shit like that.

    5. Re:But did you see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol

      how you managed to get sexless tools TWICE into your response was pure genius.

      explain to me what it says about the people that feel the need to respond? are you virgin nerds too?

  10. Re:Must see anime? by nathanh · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I haven't wanted to see anime since I was 6 and Astroboy was on.

    That's your loss. Anime is a style not a target audience. Boycotting all movies presented in a particular style is incredibly stupid. Learn to distinguish the quality from the drek and you'll find entertainment everywhere, even in anime.

  11. Re:Must see anime? by spectral · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While I admit that there's a certain truth to that, there's also a truth to the fact that it IS just a style, and therefore the people who love anime because it's anime, and not necessarily because of the content are equally as wrong.

    Personally, I like a lot of anime. I find that they often have decent stories, it helps me refine my rather poor Japanese skills (Even though I've been 'studying' it for three years. ugh.), and I find the art pretty decent. However, I realize that there are a great number out there that suck.

    There are some people who can't stand the art, and therefore reject it as a medium. There are some people who refuse to give it a chance due to some series being bad. To both of them, that's their loss. But to love everything just because it IS in a certain style is also rather stupid, and I feel sorry for them too.

    Note, I'm not criticizing you for this, you didn't say you were like that. I'm just making a somewhat relevant comment on a pet-pieve of mine. All the while simultaneously mispelling the word pieve, I'm sure.

  12. Good starting point? by rf0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm trying to get into anime and I've watched things like Akira and TBH thats about it. Whats a good series I should try to get to help into another spending habit? :)

    rus

    1. Re:Good starting point? by tankdilla · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I got my start from watching Cartoon Network's Adult Swim (particularly sat. night). Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star were two that caught my attention. Evangelion was suggested by a friend and that series is definitely top of the list. Oh yeah and Vampire Hunter D is a good anime movie. I'm still pretty new to it, but those are a few that caught my attention.

      Oh yeah, and kazaa was pretty helpful....

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    2. Re:Good starting point? by spectral · · Score: 2, Informative

      *sigh* I'll bite. First my favorite argument: liking Anime as a format is rather stupid. Liking genres of stories, not so stupid.

      What types of stories do you [think you would] like? There's a few typical anime genres, though there seems to be a lot of cross-genre stuff. Typical, and largest being shoujo (targeted at females), and shounen (targeted to males). But in there there's subcategories. Magical girl (sailor moon is probably the most popular/well known example in America) is a type of shoujo. There's comedy ones, serious ones, 'love get' ones, etc. It's rather hard to tell you what might be good if you don't narrow it down.

      That being said, here is a list of my favorite series. While I say liking anything because it's anime is wrong, I do tend to like a lot of it because they often have good stories. Though there's enough I hate. *Shrug*.

      Anyway, list:
      Evangelion (A classic).

      Love Hina ('love get' of sorts, with college entrance exams. Comedy.)

      Azumanga Daioh (really recent, not in the states I don't think. Again, comedy).

      Tokyo Underground (Not sure of classification, not a comedy per se. Basic story: there's a city under tokyo where some people have control over various powers of elements. They're trying to unleash a great evil. Must go stop them. *shrug* typical premise ;))

      Ranma 1/2. While it got repetitive, it's still pretty funny. Interesting look in to Japanese ideas of sexuality too. We actually watched this in one of my classes here in Japan.

      Chobits. Agh, it's just so cute. Interesting plot too.

      Spriggan. I thought it was pretty good, but it's one of the few that is good/different enough that people who don't like anime like it. ymmv.

      I dunno, I tend more towards shoujo type stuff, and comedies in particular. Not too fond of serious stuff (Blood, etc.). Though psychological things (Evangelion) and things which deal with topics interesting to me (like Chobits and Ranma did) are also decent.

      If you have any friends who know what type of normal movies you like to watch, ask them for recommendations. They might know what you'd like better. Just hope they aren't the type that swears everything is good.

    3. Re:Good starting point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blue Submarine No. 6, Jin-Roh, Rurouni Kenshin OVAs, Princess Mononoke.

    4. Re:Good starting point? by D+iz+a+n+k+Meister · · Score: 1

      Slam Dunk is an awesome cartoon. Nowhere else have I ever seen 3 seconds of a high school basketball game take 30 minutes to complete. Edge of you seat stuff.

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    5. Re:Good starting point? by nathanh · · Score: 2, Informative
      I'm trying to get into anime and I've watched things like Akira and TBH thats about it. Whats a good series I should try to get to help into another spending habit? :)

      Depends on what you like. I'll touch on movies as well as series.

      If you like action, explosions, girls in robot suits, then Bubblegum Crisis 2032 is great. Don't confuse this with Bubblegum Crisis 2040: good but not great.

      If you want romantic comedy then Ah! My Goddess is great for watching with your girl. Only 2 discs in the series and a standalone movie.

      If you want fluffy philosophy mixed in with a little drama then try Key: Metal Idol or Lain. Not difficult stuff (not like Kant!) but still very entertaining.

      If you like guts and gore and all that's foul then Ninja Scroll is the shiznitz. Be sure to get the uncut version for maximum effect.

      If you were a fan of Alice in Wonderland or the Wizard of Oz (two of my favourite books) then you'll like My Neighbour Totoro or Spirited Away.

      If you prefer adventure/action films with a little comedy then Porco Rosso, Laputa or Castle Cagliostro are excellent. All 3 very much like Indiana Jones.

      If you enjoyed Akira then you should watch Ghost in the Shell. This particular genre has plenty of series to choose from though I think they're mostly crap.

      If you want to watch a tragedy then you can't go wrong with Samurai X: Trust+Betrayal or Grave of the Fireflies. Very sad.

      Basically anime is like any other medium. There are lots of styles and lots of variation in quality. To put it in perspective, imagine if you had said "What books should I read? I read The Secret Seven when I was 5 years old!". You need to explain what you want.

    6. Re:Good starting point? by chill182 · · Score: 1

      Trigun is quickly becoming one of my favorite cartoons. I like the character Vash because he is silly a lot of the time but he is also an excellent marksman and has this amazing ability to get out of impossible situations. You can see it weeknights on Cartoon Network.

      I also saw Spirited Away a few weeks ago and it is definately worth a rental now that it is on DVD.

    7. Re:Good starting point? by Eythian · · Score: 1

      As with any story-type thing, it depends what you are after. If you like a not too serious sci-fi, go for Trigun. A bit more serious (and with a great soundtrack), Cowboy Bebop. Both of these are generally easy to watch. If you want funny (and disturbingly addictive) and don't mind a bit sappy, Love Hina. An interesting action/drama-ish one is Noir, which follows two assassins. A comedy following a kid training to be a ninja, Naruto.

      Based on what I'd like, I'd recommend these as good starting places. All are fairly easy to watch, and should be able to be found on the net easily.

    8. Re:Good starting point? by trurl7 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Man have you opened up a can of worms. Everybody and their anime-watching cat is gonna have their top ten list up here. So, I'm trying to beat the rush. Here are my personal picks:

      1) Cowoy Bebop (action/sci-fi) - adventures of several bounty hunters always a bit down on their luck including a former cop, a former mafia enforcer, a woman with no past, a young hacker, and a genetically modified Welsh Corgi. Probably one of the best series released in the last few years. Awesome music, probably some of the best integration of theme and form.

      2) Escaflowne (fantasy/action) - a young girl Hitomi Kanzaki is sent to the mysterious world of Gaia. This world is poised on the brink of an expansionist war, and Hitomi's newly discovered powers will be instrumental in shaping the outcome. Giant robots/sword fighting/some magic. Alot of the people from Esca worked on CB.

      3) The Gundam Universe (Mecha/Action). One of the biggest venues in anime. Started back in the 80's with Mobile Suit Gundam 0079, and has spawned 4 alternate universes and something like 6 series.
      Gundam Wing is probably the most famous of the alternatives. Mobile Suit Gudam: the 8th Mobile Suit Team is one of the best from the original series. Gundam is pretty heavy on the idea of how bad war really is and what it does to children. Gundam W. is highly political, but still very cool

      4) The Slayers Universe (fantasy/comedy). Your stereotypical magical world with sorcerers, fighters, priests, and world-shattering mayham and destruction as perpetrated by an insanely powerful, but super kawaii (cute) sorceress named Line Inverse.

      5) Ghibli. Everything by studio Ghibli. I'm not kidding. Anything that Miyazaki Hayao has ever touch is pretty much gold. (I know, not everything from Ghibli is Miyazaki's, but these were the good ones): My Neighbor Totoro (Tonari no Totoro), Laputa: Castle in the Sky, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (Tani no Kaze no Nausicaa), Porco Rosso (Kurenai no Buta), Kiki's Delivery Service. Also, Grave of the Fireflies and Castle of Cagliostro.

      6) Studio Gainax and Anno Hideaki. They do really fascinating, but strange stuff. The movie Wings of Honneamise is phenomenal. Also, the poster series of Gainax - "Shinsaeki Evangelion" - Neon Genesis Evangelion. Love it, hate it, but you've got to see it. I also recommend Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou (aka Kare Kano) - "His and Her Circumstances".

      7) Some other random series I've liked:

      Love Hina (romance/comedy) - modern retelling of the Tale of Genji. Story of a young man who tries to get into Tokyo University, but can't quite make it. While preparing, he becomes the manager of a girls' dorm, and the ensuing misadventures of Hinata Inn.

      Full Metal Panic - (mecha/adventure) recent release by Gonzo digimation. Sagara Souske is a 16 year old soldier working for a shadowy organization called "Mithril". His next assignment is to protect a Japanese high school student Chidori Kaname, a young girl totally unware of her unique importance. This is also the story of what happens when a professional soldier has to deal with high school life.

      Hellsing - (horror) Gonzo digimation. The story of the Hellsing organization, a group dedicated to destroying England's evil supernatural creatures, and it's main weapon - a cynical and ancient vampire called Alucard.

      This list is not complete, is highly subjective and non-authoritative. Still, hope this helps and gives you some ideas.

    9. Re:Good starting point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      replying to myself, so I'll do it anonymously.. whee. I also liked most everything by Miyazaki that I've seen. Princess Mononoke, etc. Very good stuff.

    10. Re:Good starting point? by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      I must disagree on a technical basis. Noir shouldn't correctly be called "action".

      That word implies that people would move around from time to time, especially when faced with a dangerous situation like a gun battle.

      Now that I think about it... maybe it shouldn't even be called "animation". Like Fushigi Yugi, it's more a slide-show with a soundtrack.

  13. Re:Must-see anime? by confused+philosopher · · Score: 1

    That is a good point, even though you did misspell "peeve".

    I never said I didn't like Astroboy. I thought it was great. But crap anime animation sucks in the suckiest way that can suck, and ruins a story that doesn't need neon pink colours, whiny girl voices, and flashing scenes that last a microsecond. I can get crap animation and stories from South Park, why bother with expensive foreign "art". It is all too artsy-fartsy for me.

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  14. Sacrifice Woods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's a bit of info about a film that will be appearing at the festival, Sacrifice Woods.

    1. Re:Sacrifice Woods by ixache · · Score: 1

      Are the moderators dumb or is it some kind of sick elaborate joke (I'm thinking of the underrated moderation point)? If you care to check the original story, you will see that no work entitled Sacrifice Woods will be shown at the festival, and if you unfortunately care to check the provided link, you will be treated with a bad drawing of a naked women being tortured. It is sick and perverted, all the more so when you get that there are hundreds of similar drawings on the site. I think that the artist needs professional help in more ways than one, since his art seems all the way quite poor.

      Xavier

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  15. Two Words by Metrol · · Score: 1

    "Road Trip!"

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  16. I know theatres are cracking down by lingqi · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    but would SOMEBODY please web-cam / tape it and make it available online somewhere?

    Some people just can't make it to LA on short notices like this (not to mention it's a week long excursion). Especially (and ironically) people that have to be in Japan during that time, like myself, actually.

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    1. Re:I know theatres are cracking down by Metrol · · Score: 4, Funny

      but would SOMEBODY please web-cam / tape it and make it available online somewhere?

      Some people just can't make it to LA on short notices like this (not to mention it's a week long excursion). Especially (and ironically) people that have to be in Japan during that time, like myself, actually.


      Got some good and bad news for ya.

      The good news is that someone has already snagged a copy of most all of these movies! Heck, you don't even have to wait in line, much less visit lovely downtown Hollywood, or the really cool Egyptian theater.

      The bad news... I know this is going to be one of those WAY out there wacky ideas. This is so OUT there that you probably would have never thought of it yourself. I'm here to help. Brace yourself for a monster paradigm shift without a clutch my friend, this may sting a bit.

      You could *gasp* BUY these titles on DVD! That's right, you're hard earned Dollars and/or Yen can be donated directly to the artists and distributors that make this possible in an otherwise clandestine system known as "The Free Market", and sometimes by it's often derrided name, "Capitalism".

      It may seem strange at first, but by utilizing this system you could then watch these movies at any time! It's wacky that way. So go and travel to Japan and enjoy your time there. "The Free Market" will be waiting for you when you get back at a variety of web sites and corner video stores near you!

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  17. List of Must-See Anime Films by Trepidity · · Score: 3, Funny
    • ...
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    • ...


    I'm going to have trouble fitting them all in, what with the Must-See Star Trek Fan Film Festival this week too.
    1. Re:List of Must-See Anime Films by NeuroKoan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oooohh! ... is a good one. Probably one of my favorites in the genre. Not quite as good as ... (which is my all time-fav) but better then ...

      As for ... a lot of people seem to like it, personally I don't. I do feel that it has some merit to it, even if it is just ripping off ... (still not as good as the original ...)

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  18. I don't find them interesting by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's a lot of gee-whiz techno-nonsense reminiscent of early 1980s cyberpunk. Just because you have a robot, a "hacker," and a scantily-clad schoolgirl in your show doesn't mean you can skip the plot.

    1. Re:I don't find them interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Just because you have a robot, a "hacker," and a scantily-clad schoolgirl in your show doesn't mean you can skip the plot.


      Your partially right...It only takes one scantily-clad schoolgirl before it's okay to skip the plot.

    2. Re:I don't find them interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it takes two (or more) of them before you can skip the plot ;)

  19. Chojin Densetsu Urotsukidoji .. by Dri · · Score: 0

    .. is on the schedule. Top hentai of all times. 40 stories high demons raping school chix. Bizarre? =) I wish I had money to spend to go this festival. Hope this brings more anime to mainstream festivals.

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    1. Re:Chojin Densetsu Urotsukidoji .. by johannesg · · Score: 4, Interesting
      As far as I can tell this film single-handedly destroyed anime in the Netherlands. It was off to a promising start, until Uro... Iru... "Legend of the Overfiend" appeared. And then suddenly whenever you mentioned anime people would go "Ah yes, tentacles demons rape little girls, why do you watch that crap? Are you sick in your head maybe?" Soon after the video rental shops stopped carrying all anime.

      I'm still waiting for an opportunity to see Spirited Away on the large screen. The way things are going I guess I never will :-(

    2. Re:Chojin Densetsu Urotsukidoji .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      spirited away.. isn't that the heartwarming oscar winner that ends in a VICIOUS TENTACLE RAPE

    3. Re:Chojin Densetsu Urotsukidoji .. by nathanh · · Score: 1
      As far as I can tell this film single-handedly destroyed anime in the Netherlands. It was off to a promising start, until Uro... Iru... "Legend of the Overfiend" appeared. And then suddenly whenever you mentioned anime people would go "Ah yes, tentacles demons rape little girls, why do you watch that crap? Are you sick in your head maybe?" Soon after the video rental shops stopped carrying all anime.

      You're exactly right. Anime has earned an undeserved reputation as "animated kiddie porn" in Australia. You're better off claiming to be a leper than admitting to watching anime. Terrible junk like Overfiend is to blame. Even when Spirited Away won an Academy Award I was still hearing the same stereotypes.

    4. Re:Chojin Densetsu Urotsukidoji .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which, interestingly enough, shows that America is less xenophobic and close-minded than Europe OR Australia. Who'd have thought?

  20. Oh no! by Zestius · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Anime festival is gonna get slashdotted!

  21. Re:Someday by C.Maggard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not all anime is about huge breasts and sex. I'm a huge fan of the Trigun series because it depicts a tormented hero struggling to help a world that believes he's the worst thing to happen to it, ever. People never seem to hear about the good deeds he performs, yet, they all want to talk about any destruction that might result from those good deeds, and of course, the tall tales are often exaggerated.

  22. Re:Peter Pan Syndrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Everyone has his or her own interest. Over-generalizations are just simply pathetic. Anime is a hobby, something of interest to certain people, just like basketball, horror flicks, rock bands, what have you. In fact, quite similar to your self-insecure, need to over-criticize to show off your hollow shell, bashing.

    Mod parent troll
    then mod this a troll for responding to his idiotic rant

  23. The Real Story by mib · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is it just me, or should this really have been called the "Los Angeles Anime Advertising Fest". A significant proportion of the program is excerpts from forthcoming DVDs from American distributors (ADV Films, Manga Ent., Pioneer).

    Here's my take on the real "must-see" films of the festival:

    • Tamala2010 A Punk Cat in Space.
      Has an outside chance of actually being great, but at least it'll be strange and a good conversation piece.
    • Jungle Emperor Leo.
      This became "Kimba" in its Americanized form. A chance to see some of anime history in its original form that you may not get again.
    • Castle in the Sky/Kiki's Delivery Service.
      Do yourself a favor and see this superior double-feature instead of the lacklustre "Cat Returns."
    • Arete Hime.
      Worth a look for the animation, for which it won an award at the Toyko Anime Fair in 2002.
    • Memories.
      As anime films go, this one is a brilliant work of art.

    I found some more PR guff about the fest at anime-tourist too.

    I guess fanboys will want to see Animatrix as well (I probably would), though the three released online episodes don't seem anything to write home about.

    Now, anyone want to buy me a trip to LA?

    - mib

  24. just in case you have anime in quicktim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    watch it fullscreen with quicktime pro

    name: Rob Malda
    serial: 69G4-P4ZW-WPAR-NLRK-6108

    name: malda@slashdot.org
    serial: GGL4-LCDP-UN99-N6ZL-52FF

    1. Re:just in case you have anime in quicktim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hehe, thanks. i keep meaning to get a keygen, but never get around to it.

  25. Re:Why do people insist on using the word trippy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what's cool is that every other word in your post is fucking yellow. i can qualify that as trippy. 'cid kicks ass.

  26. Re:Must see anime? by nathanh · · Score: 1
    While I admit that there's a certain truth to that, there's also a truth to the fact that it IS just a style, and therefore the people who love anime because it's anime, and not necessarily because of the content are equally as wrong.

    I have to agree with you! Fanboys who love all anime are as silly as people who hate all anime. There's a lot of crap anime: poor stories, badly drawn, badly voiced, or simply targetting the wrong age group. Steering clear of the junk is as relevant for anime as it is for movies and books.

  27. Re:Must-see anime? by offpath3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you think all anime has neon pink colors, whiny girl voices and epilepsy inducing flashing scenes, you've been missing a lot. I would recommend any of Miyazaki's works. If you're in for a rather depressing yet amazingly well-made anime, my personal recommendation would be Hotaru no Haka (Grave of Fireflies). Or if you want less artsy-fartsy, you could try Cowboy Beebop or maybe Ghost in the Shell.

  28. you got me wrong by lingqi · · Score: 1

    I am not at all against the idea of paying money for something I like, and in fact I have watched many of the listed titles via rental - the point I am trying to put across is, though (granted, apparently didn't come through so clearly) is the fact that access control on stuff is very much a pain.

    My biggest peeve is that it is darn near impossible to get English subtitled works that were produced here in Japan! That's not to mention the rediculous hoops I would jump through do circumvent the region coding - by buying another DVD player or otherwise.

    That's not to mention that Animatrix is not yet released, and dispite a seemingly comprehensive effort to make it to the japanese side (the online trailers have japanese versions, methinks?), there are no possibilities of seeing them on the big screen here (none that I am aware of, anyhow) as during previews or otherwise.

    THAT was my point.

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  29. Re:Let me get this straight... by johannesg · · Score: 1

    Then again, you are posting on slashdot...

  30. Re:Must-see anime? by nathanh · · Score: 2, Interesting
    But crap anime animation sucks in the suckiest way that can suck, and ruins a story that doesn't need neon pink colours, whiny girl voices, and flashing scenes that last a microsecond.

    Shrug. I didn't care for anime myself until 3-4 years ago. I'd seen Astroboy and Transformers as a kid but I had boycotted anime from high-school onwards. I shared the popular opinion that anime was "cartoons" and "cartoons are for kids".

    My opinion changed with a single anime. With a great deal of prodding from a fanboy friend I watched Neon Genesis Evangelion on SBS (an Australian TV station devoted to foreign films and shows). I'm a big sci-fi fan but stuck with the books because movies didn't and still don't do the stories any justice. Evangelion changed my opinion because it had a story on multiple levels; that's something I wouldn't expect from a Hollywood movie and definitely not from a "cartoon".

    I've since realised that if you are careful in your selections then there is plenty of anime that is more than "cartoons for kids". Perfect Blue, Graveyard of the Fireflies, Princess Mononoke: these are all examples of anime that tell a great story without using the stereotypes of "neon pink colours" and "whiny girl voices".

  31. For those who don't "get" Anime by dWhisper · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've never been able to really get into Anime since I watched Robotech as a kid. I loved that show, and still love watching it. It's not because I love Anime, but it reminds me of those cartoons.

    For me, my cartoon loves are strictly American for the most part. I haven't been able to figure out why that is, since most of my friends love the Anime. I love classics like Transformers, G.I. Joe, things like that. I have quite the collection of downloaded episodes, and also have DVDs of my childhood cartoon loves.

    I still watch the modern adult cartoons: South Park, KOTH, Simpsons, but don't really consider them cartoons. I have enjoyed some Anime movies, but to me, most seem watered down, or geared towards another culture and mindset. I can only watch so many cartoons with giggling girls, food jokes and the like. I enjoyed Ghost in the Shell, though I suppose that's qualified as Magna (I do not know the difference).

    As for the other things, the Matrix rules, but it's just as much Sci-Fi as anything else.

    1. Re:For those who don't "get" Anime by mselmeci · · Score: 1
      I enjoyed Ghost in the Shell, though I suppose that's qualified as Magna (I do not know the difference).

      Ghost in the Shell is an anime. An anime is an animation. A manga is a comic.

    2. Re:For those who don't "get" Anime by MajikGuru · · Score: 1

      Well, actually the animated Ghost In The Shell is based on the manga by Masamune Shirow, or at least that's what it says on the DVD cover :-P

    3. Re:For those who don't "get" Anime by dWhisper · · Score: 0

      I guess I'm basing my comment on the name of the company on the DVD case. Thanks for the clarification.

    4. Re:For those who don't "get" Anime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      um hate to tell you but.. transformers.. is an anime..

    5. Re:For those who don't "get" Anime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Transformers isnt an American cartoon, it started over in Japan. There's actually a lot of stuff in the Japanese Transformers that we Americans never saw.

    6. Re:For those who don't "get" Anime by hcduvall · · Score: 1

      I've never been able to really get into Anime since I watched Robotech as a kid. I loved that show, and still love watching it. It's not because I love Anime, but it reminds me of those cartoons.

      Are you trying to convince yourself you don't? :P

      I still watch the modern adult cartoons: South Park, KOTH, Simpsons, but don't really consider them cartoons. I have enjoyed some Anime movies, but to me, most seem watered down, or geared towards another culture and mindset. I can only watch so many cartoons with giggling girls, food jokes and the like. I enjoyed Ghost in the Shell, though I suppose that's qualified as Magna (I do not know the difference)

      But they are cartoons, even if you don't consider them as such. The use of the word tends to confuse medium and genre- I myself watch a lot of movies- but if I think it has merit beyond entertainment, I know that in conversation I'll refer to them as as a films instead, because it adds gravitas.

      It happens in comics as well- when Maus came out, the term graphic novel popped up to give it more seriousness, because bookstores and serious types couldn't be seen dealing with comics. Anime is like any other medium- I'd imagine that South park, and your American made cartoons of choice play off weaker in foreign countries, just as anime does in the US. And this is after ignoring Sat. morning fare (which is the equivalent of what it sounds like you saw Animewise).

      BTW, Manga typically refers to the Japanese comic style. Animated = anime. It gets blurred as comics turn to anime and vice versa, but thats the divide.

      As for the other things, the Matrix rules, but it's just as much Sci-Fi as anything else.

      As for the Matrix, its great sci-fi, and a hodgepodge of various sources, genres and styles, but I think you're confusing the movie with the Matrix related (and Anime influenced) cartoons the festival would be showing

    7. Re:For those who don't "get" Anime by mink · · Score: 1

      If it helps, Robotech is to the Anime series that was used to make it what Walt Disneys Treasure Planet is to Treasure Island.

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  32. Define Watered Down, please by dWhisper · · Score: 1

    Are we talking the Modern cartoons, that are mostly Anime-influenced? Or are we talking classic American cartoons from the 80s and early 90s?

    And if you love robot Anime, watch Robotech. It's the father of a good 50% of the Anime out there, and chances are they though of it first (and then Gundum just ripped it off).

    1. Re:Define Watered Down, please by tankdilla · · Score: 2, Insightful
      While it's true that modern cartoons are influenced by anime, there is still a noticeable difference between American cartoons and Japanese anime. Just going off of what I'm familiar with in anime vs. American cartoons, there's the long-legged, scantily-clad, curvaceous women that are slowly appearing in American cartoons, but not at the scale of anime. The sexual innuendos and situations are more prevalent and obvious in anime too. Anime battles are more graphic and vivid. I don't know whether it's a question of can American cartoon-makers make better fight sequences or do they choose not to. They're trying to get up to speed, but they still have a ways to go.

      It also depends on what cartoons are being compared. I've seen Evangelion, Gundam, Outlaw Star, Vampire Hunter D, and Cowboy Bebop as far as anime goes (oh yeah DBZ). American cartoons to compare with these include....Transformers, Batman, X-Men...that's all i can think of now in the genre of action, fighting and robots. Comparing what anime brings and American cartoons leave out, American cartoons are definitely watered down, at least in the genre of robots and fighting. The question of why American cartoons are watered down is most likely because of the censors in the US. I guess they get away with more stuff in Japan.

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    2. Re:Define Watered Down, please by dWhisper · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think the main reason for the censors cutting American Import "Anime" is the difference between audiences in America and Japan. There, Anime is part of adult culture. Here, cartoons are still overwealmingly targeted to kids.

      Sex, violence, nudity, and adult themes are cut out because it's still not in public circles that Anime is an adult art form. With the most popular cartoons being things like Pokemon, it's getting harder to convince people. DBZ in America is targeted to kids and teenagers (personally, I've always hated that show, then again, I'm 25 so that could be it), but the Japanese versions I've seen are plainly adult.

      It's not just about the actual show though. For a cartoon series to be successful in America, there has to be some marketability for toys, videos, video games or the like. Go to Target, and you see Dragon Ball, Gundam, Pokemon, but you don't see Slyaers toys anywhere.

      The anime I've always enjoyed has steered towards comedy and a little bit more "mature" action, for lack of a better word. I've enjoyed Ranma, mostly because the premise is funny. I've also enjoyed Slayers and the Lodoss War series. Gundam is a straight hack ripoff of Robotech, though I'm basing this on their toys and the 10 mintues of the show I've seen.

      Transformers was a Japanese comic book that won appeal as an American Cartoon. The toys ruled, and I had them. I don't forsee any of the modern cartoons having the sort of lasting appeal that Transformers has (and the modern, lame, cartoon of Transformers doesn't count). Kids that are growing up aren't going to talk about how Pokemon and DBZ affected their lives. However guys my age still talk about seeing Optimus Prime die, though typically among men or when drinking.

      Batman (and Batman Beyond) are probably the most unique american cartoons that have aired recently. I watched them in college, and they were unique because they placed storytelling above animation and the "pizzaz" factor of other cartoons. If you ever had a chance to watch the series Gargoyles, it was very similar in the storytelling aspect. If you can dig up some of those, I recommend it highly.

    3. Re:Define Watered Down, please by Quikah · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sorry, Gundam came before Macross (which is what was used to create Robotech). The father of giant robot anime is probably Tetsujin 28-go (Gigantor was the english version) from early 60s, though Astroboy from early 50s could also be considered the father of all robot anime, he wasn't a giant robot though.

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    4. Re:Define Watered Down, please by BJH · · Score: 1

      Hate to tell you, but DBZ in Japan is targeted at kids as well ;)

    5. Re:Define Watered Down, please by mazor · · Score: 1
      American television wouldn't come anywhere near the religious references that underscore many of the adult-themed Japanese anime. Evangelion is by far the most extreme example I've encountered so far, but that also makes it the most fascinating - to pick apart references to Judao-Christian symbolism that most Jews/Christians have never heard of. American TV producers don't have the spine to incorporate potentially religious topics into anything.

      Japanese fascination with religious symbolism shows up in "kids" games, too. Remember Final Fantasy 7? The main 'bad guy' was a fellow named Sephiroth. He was on a crazed quest to achieve god-like powers (enlightenment) at the expense of all the lives on Earth. "Sephiroth" is the name of the Tree of Life, a central element of Kabalism regarded as a roadmap of states one must achieve to attain enlightenment. Not exactly what you'd expect to find in a kid's computer game, eh?

      -mazor

    6. Re:Define Watered Down, please by mink · · Score: 1

      Nice troll, i'll bite.

      Robotech is not the father of any anime.
      Anime gave birth to Robotech.
      If Super Dimensional Fortress Macross, Southern Cross and Genesis Climber Masopeda had never been made as anime in Japan. Carl Macek would not have had any source material to edit together into your precious Robotech.
      MS Gundam also came before Robotech, but dont let facts and reality get in the way of your adoration for Robotech.

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  33. It's not the underpants gnomes but.... by Rhinobird · · Score: 1

    KYLE: We HAVE to see this movie, dude.
    CARTMAN: Aw, screw it. It probably isn't all that good anyway.
    KYLE: Cartman, what are you talking about? You love Terrance and^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HAnime.
    CARTMAN: Yeah, but the animation's all crappy.

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    1. Re:It's not the underpants gnomes but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was the most depressingly lame post I've ever read. Congratulations Rhinobird.

  34. For the anti-anime trolls. by NeuroManson · · Score: 1

    Yes, there WILL be tentacles (late night schedule).

    Nothing to see here, move along, move along.

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  35. Memories on DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do they show Memories when it's a) not a recent film (unlike the other ones) b) been available on DVD for years? (good piece of advice for those people who can not attend the festival, methinks)

    1. Re:Memories on DVD by TheGatekeeper · · Score: 1

      The first part of Memories is really fantastic, and I'd love to see it on a big screen, nevermind if it's a bit older. My advice to anybody luck enough to be able to attend this is to watch the first portion ("Magnetic Rose") and then don't bother with parts 2 and 3 ("Stink Bomb" and "Cannon Fodder"). But back to Magnetic Rose for a second, I wish the whole movie had been Magnetic Rose, it could have stood to be a lot longer. Some may scream blasphemy for my saying this, but I would even like to see it as a Western, live action, feature film. I think Western and Eastern audiances both would love it, so why not?

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  36. Get Sailor Moon (uncut DVD set) by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you want to see what good writing can do for anime, I suggest you get the upcoming first season of Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon on UNCUT subtitled-English DVD that ADV Films will release this July on a two-box DVD set.

    Don't laugh folks: the original version shown in Japan is in many ways a VASTLY different show than the DiC English-language "adaptation" that was originally shown in 1995. The original version is a much darker series, with much more serious storylines and the end of the first season caused some controversy in Japan in the way it ended. I especially recommend watching the first seven episodes, which has some of the best-written stories outside of the Sailor Moon S (third) season.

    1. Re:Get Sailor Moon (uncut DVD set) by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      This is hyperbole. There is nothing "VAST" about the differences.

      Swapping around some backstory to replace "dead" with "magic sleep" doesn't really have all that much of an effect on the show itself, which is still "a dumb blonde with a magic school-uniform zaps random monsters with the same magic spell week after week". Although, it is a big shame the homosexuals were transgendered.

      I especially recommend watching the first seven episodes,

      Although they contain essential character introduction (if you plan to watch the rest), those episodes are poor compared to later ones in the same series. The Sailor Moon seasons inevitably pick up somewhat at the ends (a benefit shared by most anime, in comparison with US television). The beginning of the last season is a good self-contained bit too.

      I'm surprised no fans have released a Phantom Edit of Sailor Moon. Taking the best 30% of the episodes, allowing some girl besides Usagi to finish off a small monster periodically... it could be decent. 150 filler episodes is just too much.

  37. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GYAC

  38. D'oh!- real link by axolotl_farmer · · Score: 1

    The real link should of course be kodocha.isgreat.net

  39. The Cat Returns? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

    Ghibli's The Cat Returns (making its US debut) What, that guy "Cats" from Zero Wing? Cool! What new words of wisdom does he have for us? :^P

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  40. Kid A looking series by Unixinvid · · Score: 1

    Tamala2010: Punk Cat looks a radiohead animation that you would see on MTV. I liked the animation style that drawn for some of the charecters. Tamala sorta looks like Parappa the Rapper which is cool. I think it could be somthing that could be picked up by a cable such as MTV or Cartoon Network. All in all I give the series: 4 out of 5 /.'s

  41. Haibane Renmei: coming to a vid store near you by MsGeek · · Score: 1

    If you want to get a great example of just how wide-open a genre Anime is, take a look at this series, done by ABe, one of the people who were responsible for Serial Experiments: Lain.

    It's beautiful, it grabs hold of your heart and won't turn it loose until you've seen the entire series and even then...seriously, it's great. And there is not a giant robot or a tentacle in sight.

    It is not an action series, but a slice of life, a slice of a life you can't experience anywhere else. Right now it's available in fansub, but it will come to video stores as early as August if some reports are reliable.

    If Haibane Renmei doesn't move you, your heart is made of stone.

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  42. Horrible Frame Rate by Petersko · · Score: 1

    Over time, I've picked up a few Anime titles. Ghost in the Shell... Ninja Scroll... Akira (which bored me silly)... now Castle in the Sky, Spirited Away... Grave of the Fireflies... Maybe ten others.

    I also saw the Overlord series, and some other works. Some if it was good, some of it very, very bad. Like any field, there are crap films and wonderful ones.

    But I can't help but note that my enjoyment of certain pieces could have been heightened had the animation not suffered from that ridiculous stop-action style that is so prevalent. Certain scenes are wonderfully smooth, but it seems like 3/4 of each movie is animated at 5 or 10 frames per second.

    I love the diversity and the treatment of animation as an adult media, but I detest the fact that within the same movie the animation quality can range from gorgeous to "saturday morning bottom of the barrel".

  43. "Spirited Away" in The Netherlands by ll1234 · · Score: 1

    Check the art house theaters this week, it's scheduled for release on April 24.

  44. The Cat Returns....a Favor by anonymous+loser · · Score: 1

    I happened to be in Japan when this film was released, and went to see it opening night. It was ok, but not spectacular. BTW it's NOT a Miyazaki Hayao film, just a Studio Ghibli film.

    I thought the most interesting part was the really strange series of short animated films (also produced by Studio Ghibli) they played before the main feature started. I hope they play those here in the US, some of them were funny.

    BTW the name of the film in Japanese is "Neko no Ongaeshi" -- "The Cat Returns a Favor". Which is actually what the film is about, as opposed to a cat just returning (which makes no sense in the context of the film).

  45. As Tycho says... by Peterus7 · · Score: 1
    sci fi cons don't have shit on anime conventions.

    I heard him say that at the sakuracon. It's true.

  46. "The Go of Hikaru" by Jagasian · · Score: 1

    "Hikaru no Go" is a great anime series that you can download for free, as high-quality MPEG4 files. They are fansubbed. The series is great! It has great character development. Don't judge the show until you watch at least the first 5 episodes.

    Most people can't stop watching after they have seen the first 5 episodes. So just give it a chance.

    You can download Hikaru no Go from AnimeTorrents. Make sure to install BitTorrent first... which is extremely easy.

  47. Better than Spirited Away? by RatBastard · · Score: 1

    IS it better than, or on par with, Spirited Away? I just picked that up this weekend and I think it's one of the best films I've ever seen. But then I have a soft spot for Studio Ghibli films.

    Now if I could only find my copy of Zombie Deathmatch...

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    1. Re:Better than Spirited Away? by MsGeek · · Score: 1

      If you like Studio Ghibli's output, you will definitely enjoy Haibane Renmei. Haibane Renmei is a series, not a feature-length film, and therefore is paced differently. And even for most anime series it's paced differently. It unfolds at a slow, stately pace, so you will have to be patient with it. But yeah, anyone who likes Miyazaki will enjoy this. It has similarly strong, involving characters and has the visual look of a moving painting.

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  48. Interest by t0ny · · Score: 0, Troll

    Im only interested if it shows graphic depictions of tentacle rape.

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    1. Re:Interest by t0ny · · Score: 1
      Im only interested if it shows graphic depictions of tentacle rape.

      Um, mods, you may want to understand what you are moderating. A 'Troll' is an inflamatory statement, mearly stated to provoke others to "Flame". Modding some "Flame" is either a response to an obvious "Troll", or else a hostile posting.

      Personally, I would have expected this to be moderated "Funny", seeing how I post it on every anime/manga article I see. However, feel free to moderate it "Redundant" for such behavior. However, "Troll" is entirely inappropriate.

      In this case, anyway.

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  49. Dislike anime? Reconsider... by ChaosDiscord · · Score: 1

    "I've never been able to get into American live-action works. I mean, it's all just mindless gun fights and porn."

    A foolish, clueless statement that ignores the vast wealth of American live-action works, both cinematic and television? Yup. Yet people will make similar statements about anime. It's just as silly to say, "I've never been able to get into Japanese animated works. I mean its all giggling girls, giant mecha, and tentacle porn."

    Anime is just Japanese animation, it covers a huge number of genres and styles, just like American live-action. There are historical dramas, modern action movies, cyberpunk films, science fiction, epic fantasy, soap operas, and more. I expect there is at least one Anime work that someone will like.

    Part of the problem is the American generalization that cartoons are for children. So most of the anime we import tends to be targetted at children. It's a shame since there is such a wealth of brilliant anime available.

    So, take a look at the list below. See if one of the descriptions would have sounded interested if it was live action and filmed in the US. Give it a whirl, you might be surprised. Of the movies I list, only two have giant robots (and only one of them focuses on the robots), no magical girls, no naughty tentacles, no high school hijinks. (And feel free to get a dub. Sure, the voice acting often isn't very good, but if you're not comfortable reading subtitles you'll be needless irritated. By and large the selections I've listed have at least adequete dubs.)

    Historical: While us American's obsess about a variety of wars (particularlly Vietnam and World War II), the Japanese appear to have a slight fixation on World War II. Having lost badly and gotten nuked might have that effect on people. Barefoot Gen is a brilliant film about Hiroshima written by a man who was present for it. It simultaneously addresses the foolish futility of Japan's continued war and the horror of life after the blast. Grave of the Fireflies addresses similar issues.

    Science Fiction: For cyberpunk you want Akira . What else can you say. It's a story about some bike gang members who accidentally get involved in a government experiment. The story gets a bit loopy near the end, but this movie oozes style. For a bit of space faring drama, check out the series (not the movie) Cowboy Bebop . It's a series about several bounty hunters with unresolved pasts. It has its cute parts, but it's also got rocking action, a great soundtrack of varied musical styles, fascinating characters, and a dose of angst. For something a bit unusual and pretty funny (but with a darker side), try Trigun a western feeling story set in a decaying science fiction future on a desolate planet. Ghost in the Shell is a great action film about a pair of cyborg cops after a computer hacker with a touch of reflection on what being human means in an increasingly technological world. Rojin Z is a quirky movie set in the near future about an out of control high-tech hospital bed and government-corporate conspiracies. It's unusual, but fun with a fair amount of action (and features crotchety old hackers :-). Of all of these, only Rojin Z has anything approaching the mecha so commonly associated with anime, and in Rojin Z the mecha aren't a key story element.

    Modern: Gun Smith Cats , light fluffy action, fairly entertaining. Castle of Cagliostro 's animation is

  50. Re:Why do people insist on using the word trippy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wow - that post was ... trippy

  51. One thing I can't stand about anime by zrk · · Score: 1

    Is how often the plot consists of a lot of ..., mixed with some ..., but what really kills me is the overabundance of ... which is followed by annoying ...! After all, it's just a bunch of cartoons anyways.

  52. Finally, Memories is (legitimately) here by eamonman · · Score: 1

    So someone (Columbia) finally picked it up and is hopefully planning a DVD :) I saw this a few years ago and it basically sparked my interest in anime. My tastes tend towards the darker comedy side, so it's a bit obvious why I like Memories.

    Although Cannon Fodder is a bit short and slow for my tastes, I loved Magnetic Rose and Stink bomb. Magnetic Rose for its tension, heart and fatalistic end, and Stink bomb for its dark comedy. I think I loved Stink bomb a little more because of his blind idiocy and his stink bomb powers (I wish I had some way to defeat both smart and dumb munitions with my odor ;) ).

    I think it's great that it's finally being released for real in the US: till now people had a few choices: imports ($$$), VHS fansubs (low quality), Online or one of those HK anime pirates (bad). I'm hoping that when it does come out, it will sell decently.

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  53. Re:Must see anime? by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

    and therefore the people who love anime because it's anime, and not necessarily because of the content are equally as wrong.

    Those people are wrong, yes, because they are misstating their preferences.

    Someone who claims to love all anime is most likely only aware of that anime which is good enough to be imported to the US (and marketed as "anime", which Dragonball or dub-only releases often aren't). That skews the content towards things which are scifi, action, or adult.

    If you speak a little Japanese, it's easier to be aware of the overwhelming bulk of completely childish anime, that American consumers rarely see.

  54. Re:Must see anime? by spectral · · Score: 1

    So true.

    Mostly I'm just replying cuz I like your username. nan nen kan nihongo wo benkyoushita?

    god japanese looks ugly in roman characters.

  55. Re:Must see anime? by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

    Nihongo wo zenzen wakaranai. Demo, kono peeji ga utkushi yo

  56. Re:Why do people insist on using the word trippy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you ever think that the problem might be yours? Perhaps you see the things you do when you trip because you're just plain boring.