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New Palms: Zire 71 and Tungsten C
securitas writes "Today Palm released their latest in the PDA arms race: the Zire 71 and the Tungsten C. The Zire gets a color screen, digital camera and multimedia capabilities such as MP3 playback and 640x480 VGA video playback -- interesting since the screen is 320x320. The Tungsten C gets 802.11b (WiFi) connectivity and a VPN client to protect your data while in transit. More at
InternetNews, PC World and Business Week/CNet."
how many different processors is palm going to use in its product line....?
It's a shame such a prodoct doesn't have bluetooth : I think It would have been much cheaper and battery saving than to use WiFi ?
Any Ideas why it hasn't been included ?
Besides, it's important noting those PDA have an integrated keyboard.
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No extra hardware increases the value to the user without the cost of production. What's the hold up?
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Funny, my Palm m100, upgraded to 8mb still does everything I need. Sure it doesn't play 31337 videos and MP3s, but 95% of what I need a PDA for can be satisified by an Ebay m105 for
Sorry, Palm. I love ya and all, but until you make a PDA that can replace the usefulness of a cheap laptop, I've got no reason to upgrade.
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>> 640x480 VGA video playback
well, thats not really true. the screen is only 320x320 - so, your limited to that. the Zire 71 has the ability to take up to 640x480 pictures. infosync.no has some good examples of the pictures taken at day and night with the Zire 71.
the Tungsten|C is a nice unit - definately up there now with the Pocket PC equivalents. very fast.
It's quite interesting that Palm selected the low-end Zire name for the 71. It 3 times the price of the original Zire, 8 times the memory, a much faster processor and a *much* better display.
If I recall, the Zire was an attempt to get the "its just a little too expensive" consumer crowd to buy into the Palm family.
BTW, my non-techie wife loves her Zire. It's just good enough to do the things she wants (calendar, address book) but nothing more.
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Review on infosyncworld.
The main gripe they have is the lack of Bluetooth, and that the IR diode isn't any stronger.
But are there not Bluetooth cards for the SD port?
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PocketPC surrenders.
I can't stand Palm's, or anything with that small of a screen. This is one of the reasons I sold my PEG-N710C and got a Newton. No, I'm not trolling for Apple, I'm saying that Palm needs to look back at what jumpstarted the industry: larger screen and non-grafitti handwriting recognition (the Newton had what was called Rosetta, still unmatched, even Apple's Inkwell on Mac OS X can't beat it).
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Granted, I could add an SD or MMC card but really ... 16MB is pretty weak. I would like to see Palm at least have 256MB on board, especially if I am going to use this for any type of music or video!
$300 better spent on a 5GB iPod. I can use my phone for PDA functions.
PS. I have and use a Palm m125.
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God fsckn' damnit!!! I just did a 5-second snipe on a Tungsten T last night on eBay and I see this in the morning!
Overall, I think I still would have bought the TT over the TC. I bought my Palm mostly for portable editing of Word & Excel files (Palms do this better than PocketPC apparently).
In connection with the foregoing, I intend to buy the full-sized Ultra Thin keyboard. I've seen a lot of nice Clie's with built-in keyboards already, and I think for any real work a bigger keyboard will be better, supplemented by grafitti for quick note jotting.
The Wi-Fi built-into the TC would not be of much use to me. In fact, I have no use for the Bluetooth built-into the TT. If I ever need to use Wi-Fi, there's always SDIO add-in cards.
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With WiFi and Bluetooth becoming standard (or at least peripheral), I am waiting on the applications to make my PDA even more usefull than it already is. Like an SSH client and true IMAP, POP3 email client.
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The new Zaurus is the top of the tree as far as
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I'm concerned.
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=SL-C70
same size as a normal pda, but flips round to reveal a proper keyboard... Just wish they would
hurry up and start shipping them. Im already on the pre-order list
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Most people I know that have PDAs download dictionaries, thesauri, maps into their RAM. Would it be possible and realistic for manufacturers to sell PDAs with ROMs that have data like the aforementioned dictionaries, thesauri, & maps? Perhaps this static memory would include music files, and books from Project Gutenberg that are in the public domain.
I guess this would make the PDAs akin to the Hitchikers Guide to the Universe.
Does anyone know if this is feasible?
Palm has decided to break away from the DragonBall 16 and 33 MHz CPUs and use a faster processor. They should have made this move a long time ago when all other WinCE devices were running at 200+Mhz and multimedia capable. Good thing they finally realized that once a leader is not always a leader. My advice is don't put so much effort in making things run better and start adding in loads new features...it's the only way to sell
1) Color. I look at lot of graphs and charts on my Palm and color makes a big difference.
2) Wireless access. Being able to retreive e-mail without going back to the desk is great.
3) Audio and video playback. I don't want a Palm to replace an iPod, but it is good for watching business announcements that are streamed.
If you do none of these things, fine, stick with the m100/m105. However, I think most handheld users will find at least one of the three compelling enough to get a new model.
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- phone and
- camera
in the same device, and ideally- GPS
- bluetooth
- 802.11b
- 64MB RAM
while remaining organiser (not laptop) sizedmaybe Handspring's next product might come close?
and before anyone else says it no don't imagine a beowulf cluster of them.
Seriously. The double-density screen substantially improves legibility of type (rendered at the same optical size) on-screen, especially for older eyes than yours or mine.
It's worth noting that the word Tungsten comes from the swedish words tung and sten meaning 'heavy' and 'rock'. Heavyrock C, anyone? If you don't believe me, check out Merriam-Webster.
1500 Amp? Yikes! :-)
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You know, I've agreed with your sentiment for a long time. But recently I bought a Sony Clie SJ33 as a birthday gift for probably the most amazing, beautiful girl in the world, and after seeing her daily use with it, I've changed my mind on this.
I started with Palms ever since I got a Palm 1000. You know, that boxy dark-grey thing that had 128kb of memory long before Palm realized that independent developers would write thousands upon thousands of applications for the platform. Back then, they did one thing and one thing well--organize. Finally, there was some device I could hold in my hand that could actually improve my day-to-day life. Something that wasn't merely a toy but a real, useful tool.
I eventually moved up to a Palm Vx for the 8mb RAM, LiIon battery and small form-factor. To me those were great features that complemented the key point of it all--to organize. I loved my Palm Vx and shook my head with disgust as the Palms that came after disappointed me. The next Palms traded battery life for fancy colour screens and suddenly you were paying extra for features that didn't matter.
Well, this Clie SJ33 has changed my mind. Now they are actually coming out non-organizer features that are actually useful. The MP3 playback integrated with the Palm alone makes this handheld amazing. Sure, you can carry around your Palm, music playing device and cellphone. I've done that before, but I always had heavy, bulging and uncomfortable pockets as a result. The best solution I've seen is more than three years old, and it's the eholster which tucks your miniature high-tech devices under your arms. Unfortunately they aren't actually usable because they actually look like real gun-holsters and pulling out a PDA has made a few people around me jump as it looked like I was drawing a gun. Practical, but doesn't work too well in this post 9-11 society. This girl that I speak of prefers wearing pocketless skirts over bulding pants, so integrating the music player with a small form-factored Palm works perfectly for her.
Digital cameras on a Palm also work very well, found on the Zire 71 mentioned in this Slashdot article and also the memory stick cameras, not to mention the built in one on the Sony CLIE PEGNX70V or PEGNZ90. Sure, they are barely 1 megapixel, but they are a lot of fun. Basically if you're like me, you're going to have your Palm on you at all times. But I only think to bring my camera to social events. So now you have the ability to capture anything, anytime as you go through life. See a funny subway ad that you want to show your girlfriend? See Natalie Portman walking down the street and want to take a picture with her? End up spontaneously at a party and want to take some pictures? Sure the quality won't be up there, but you can still capture some memories at unexpected moments.
I could go on with the many more features available, but my point being that mere organizing changed my life, but now they are adding features that can also improve my day-to-day life, and everyday these features dive cheaper and cheaper.
Palm seemed to have been backing BT pretty strong prior to this.
The worst part is that I heard that the BT SD card doesn't work with Palm OS 5.
What I want is color, 640x480 screen, wireless, with VNC, ethereal, netcat, shell, ssh, web browser, etc. In short, the ultimate lanalyzer, and under $300. That's what I'm holding out for, the ultamite network troubleshooter.
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If I know those Vogon bastards, they'll make an alliance with the RIAA, the MPAA and Microsoft, and make their poetry public domain to kill us open source people.
But then, public domain books could aid terrorism, so then the Vogons will have the US government on their backs.
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when is the new updates comming in on the sub-etha net? I think my clone complies with the RFCs.
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I googled, and I found this:http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elemen ts/text/W/hist.html
ssh client available, pop/imap client, synchronises over tcp/ip, so can sync with your PC over usb, wifi, ethernet etc. Has a CF camera, can act as a camera server.
Having said that and having been impressed with the connectability and flexibility of having a linux box as a palmtop, the Psion Series 5 and Revo are miles better as personal productivity tools. Try creating a pie chart in the Zaurus spreadsheet, try pasting the pie chart into the word processor. Try adding voice notes to a document, to a presentation. The software which comes with the Zaurus is fairly limited.
It's damned near criminal that Psion killed their consumer range in preference to Symbian. I can't get anything with a decent keyboard now.
Still, the Zaurus is only 180 quid plus VAT at the moment.
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POSE allows for a program to run in a virtual device, complete with virtual hardware that, to the software, is indistinguishable from the real deal. Right now, I either need a physical device for testing ARM, or dredge up a Win32 box and use it, but then I have to write special support code because the simulator is actually i386 code instead of ARM. Plus, it only works for those blessed with Codewarrior, so anybody who uses gcc(prc-tools) is out in the cold. Before Palm gets to quick to release new devices they should update POSE so they can get more ARM-native programs.
Just my opinion tho'
That's just like going to a store and looking at all those "HDTVs". They don't advertise resolutions, and when asked, the sales pud seems to think they can all handle all resolutions. "when you switch channels it says 1080i right on screen". When you tell him that's just what it's receiving - not displaying - he gives a blank stare, then says we can go look up specs on the internet.
Or at least that is what I remember hearing. But it could just be because there was never a need as the Tungsten T had builtin BT.
when is the new updates comming in on the sub-etha net? I think my clone complies with the RFCs.
No it doesn't! The newest update required RFC3514 compliance to work. You need to download new firmware. Who made your Guide clone?
Since the VPN client could obscure both the origin and destination of Internet traffic.
Bad Palm!
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I mean, a CF camera is available for it... separately.
Government of the people, by corporate executives, for corporate profits.
Who made your Guide clone?
The Sirius Cybernetics Corporation, of course. The marketing division claims that the lack of updates "Is a feature".
I should have bought an original Guide.
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I may be crazy, but I don't want a miniature keypad that mimics Graffiti! If your interaction system is designed around pen-based text input and you get rid of the pen-based text input isn't it time to re-design the interface?!
Graffiti is easy to learn and becomes accurate with use - I don't want a keyboard in my pocket.
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Well I happen to have Bluetooth on my laptop. Would be nice to use and I suspect would be easier on batteries than 802.11b for palm type devices. Plus it would be nifty to have my cell, palm and laptop all able to communicate without any wires or other silliness. (too bad the software on my laptop, mozilla in this case, isn't up to the job yet)
But you are right in that it is definitely less common. Most folks would have to get a Bluetooth USB key or something similar to make it work. Not a big problem but an added expense and possibly mildly redundant. After all, while the two wireless standards are designed for different purposes, one has to admit there is a lot of potential overlap.
I've suspected for some time that Bluetooth may not catch on, not because it isn't good, but because it overlaps too much with 802.11b in capabilities. I fear Firewire may one day suffer the same fate. True, it's better than USB in many ways but USB seems to have better mind share. Network externalities like that seem to push such technology towards a single platform, even if it isn't the best one for a given job.
I'm thinking about getting a Sony with a 480x320 screen, but even those are kinda small.
I can't believe nobody makes a handheld with a screen the size of a paperback book. I don't even care what it runs, so long as it's not WinCE...
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The VPN capability of the Tungsten-C is PPTP only....no IPSec capability.
Is this really useful?
Googling returns as one of the first hits http://www.palmpilotupgrade.com/prices.html.
I own a Palm Vx. I charge it once every two weeks. I use it as a calendar, as a phonebook and to ssh to my machine at home using my Nokia when I absolutely need to (20 column terminal... ).
My Palm is a great little thing but it's getting old and worn down. I need to replace it soon and I can't seem to find any alternatives out there. I want 8+ MB, good PIM-software and AT LEAST the same battery life as the Palm Vx. Bluetooth would be nice as my cell phone has that. I don't care about color screens, mp3-players and digital cameras. What I DO care about is battery life. It's NOT tolerable that my calendar dies because I forgot to put it in the cradle yesterday. Any suggestions?
My theory is, the faster the processor, the more programmers will take advantage of the speed.
And the more they take advantage of the speed, the shorter the battery life.
High speed processors, color screens, and bright backlighting all contribute to shorter battery life. When you are miles from home, the batteries are dead, and you have no way to sync your data back on to the device, you'll wish Palm had gone for long battery life instead of glity features.
Another point to consider: One of the strong points of Palm's handhelds has been the tremendous quantity of software available. You could take an app written for an original Palm Pilot and run it on a Palm Pilot Pro, Palm III, Palm M100, Handspring Visor, etc. The differences were largely limited to quantity of RAM and physical dimensions of the device. Sure, there were minor CPU speed variances, but it wasn't a whole new CPU at 10x-30x the clock speed. Apps for a Palm with a 400mhz ARM CPU with a 320x320 color screen won't run on the older Palms. Older apps will be unappealing to someone who has plonked down a big chunk of cash for a color, hi-res Palm. An app that requires the new Tungston C's 400mhz ARM CPU won't run fast enough on the Zire 71's 144mhz CPU.
If Palm was going to change things, they should have done it all at once, going from the original standard to a new one. Now they've got a current product line with 16mhz Dragonball CPUs, 33mhz Dragonball CPUs, 144mhz TI ARM CPUs, 400mhz Intel ARM CPUs, 160x160 monochrome screens, 160x160 grayscale screens, 160x160 color screens, and 320x320 color screens. They've really lost it.
What the hell. Reading over their tech specs it flat out says that the device has 16MB of storage, brags about it in fact. Right up until you click on the little number after that factoid to see it only has 13MB of storage. THEN SAY IT HAS 13! Is it that hard to just tell the damn truth?
What we need right now is good internet connectivity.
Speed is one thing, but the problem right now is the networking abilities, a portabble device is supposed to connect to your network, its not designed to be some kinda portable computer, if you need power pull out your laptop.
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I'd like to know who's going to be the first to market with a "Build your Own PDA" system. It seems that a lot of the discussion today is centered around why this or that feature is or isn't included. Ultimately, it probably comes down to some combination of price / power / volume.
So why can't Palm (or someone else? Handspring, are you listening?) build a fairly modular inner chassis, slap on different plastic shells, and allow people to select which features they want?
For example:
Size:
* Regular (1.7 cm thick) [$200]
* Thin (1 cm thick) [$300]
Display:
* Traditional - 320x320 (with grafitti area)
* QVGA - 320x480 (virtual grafitti area)
* No Grafitti - 320x320 (with thumb keyboard)
Standard options (any or all can be removed):
* IR
* BlueTooth
* SD/MMC slot
Major Expansion (not avail on thin model) [+ $150]
+ 802.11
+ GSM
+ CDMA
+ CF
+ Camera
Minor expansion: [+ $50]
* 2nd SD slot
* mini-SD
* XD
* Audio chip (for music playback)
To do this, they'd need:
* 3 CPU cores (corresponding to display options)
* Four cases (thick and thin models, with and without thumb keyboard) with knockouts for different options
* Internal "expansion card" space for WAN wireless, Camera (like the old memory card space was)
* Second internal expansion space for additional SD, mini-SD, XD, or audio playback
* Removable internal daughterboards for IR, BT, and the main SD slot
I really don't think this is so impossible. You'd have 39 (27 regular and 12 thin) standard configurations, and I'd bet only 5 or so would be really popular (and can be mass-produced in advance and sold at retail). Drop XD, mini-SD, and maybe CDMA, and you're down to only 24 configurations (18 and 6).
Including removal of standard options obviously increases the number, but very few customers will be likely to take that route (think "Palms used in a classified environment"). Include a grayscale option and double the count, but realistically, you can keep a separate, non-modular, grayscale model for $100 as a stocking-stuffer target).
Finally, you could even sell some of these as after-market items, so people could buy the basic model today, and then add the camera later with just a little screwdriver and some patience.
Is this so crazy?
I'm not sure how many of you know this but I only found this out the other day and think it's pretty cool. This Zire 71 (and some other new Palms I think) ses a TI OMAP processor which is a C55x DSP with a ARM core on chip. So it's able to do fast DSP routines and fast microprocessor routines.
Random is the New Order.
You suck at marketing, you saturate the field too much.
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... corporate espionage. seriously, besides the "fun factor" of having a camera built into the zire 71, why would you put such a thing into it knowing that it could be used for stealing corporate secrets?
generally, i use a pda to store appointments, phone numbers, addresses and notes. i don't need a camera or phone or any other high tech gadgetry built in. when will palm and others get this? i use my pda for just that - a personal digital assistant. not a personal photographer, personal communicator, or anything else.
in fact, the only rational i have for this that the cheap, garbage camera they have built into each unit really only cost them 10 bucks, but they can charge another 100 bucks for the added "functionality".
I want to buy a PDA, I'd like to be able to get online, check my email, get icq/aim/msn msgs, play the occassional mp3, and take notes.
I'm a college student, I dont really want to spend $500 on a PDA, but I like the WiFi ability.
What are my options? The Zire71 is perfect in design and features but it lacks the internet so what good is this?
Is there an expansion slot? can I buy a WiFi card with this device? Or else what are my options? I want to be able to connect remotely to my desktop and run or mess with applications, upload and download files to it, little stuff like that.
Whats the best PDA for a college student?
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I'm not going to spend $500 on a PDA, thats ridiculous, $300 is reasonable and maybe $50 for a wifi card.
$500 is too expensive as much as I want 802.11b, I'd rather just be ale to expand on the Zire later on w hen I have an extra $50-100 and use something else in the meantime.
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Speaking of multiple chip architectures, has anyone managed to get PalmOS hacked into any PocketPC box? I know there's been a port of coPilot (or something like it) to PocketPC, but I mean has anyone actually hacked basic IO drivers together and gotten a PalmOS image to run directly (or even within a micro-emulation shell) on PocketPC Hardware?
There's a Palm Zire 71 Review at PDABuzz.
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Serves ya right, ya goddamned sniper!
And why would I need anything except a HP or TI calculator. It can store data, it can do calculation, and the most amazing thing is that it can let your programming it. Wow~~ I think in this world with HP or TI calculators it is already enough.
I really wonder why there's company go built something like P4, Athlon, etc... Even a 8086 is already more than what I demand. Never able to understand how they can make profit.
Well, I'm off to eBay to sell my Palm m500...
- Danny
However, you can get close to what your asking (in an efficient manner) with MMS Cam (link could well be broken, but you can do another search). With this software you send a specific text to your sneakily located 3650 (Nokia VGA Camera/Video phone) and it will email or MMS to a specified address/number whatever is in it's sights. It's close to what your thinking, and won't inflate your phonebill...
I wish Palm would instead focus resources on making a more rugged PDA that could be dropped repeatedly without breaking. At the same time it should be easy to pull it out of your pocket and get to the screen quickly (with minimal time spent pulling it out of a case, fumbling with a stylus, etc.) For a Palm to me useful, you have to carry it almost all of the time, and it needs to be quick access. The camera has good gee-whiz factor, but probably makes it easier to break overall. Also, the joystick seems like a potentially less sturdy item.
So you are telling me you can roam the entire city of Boston without losing a connection via WiFi? Not likely.
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Also I wasn't saying that there are Bluetooth hotspots, what I was saying is that you use your Bluetooth to talk with your mobile phone which in turn connects to a GPRS network. The GPRS network is far more widespread than WiFi and fills in all/most of the areas. having this access is key for a mobile worker.
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Perhaps by Palm OS 6, the POS will both be good enough
Now, now, PalmOS may not be perfect, but there's no reason to call it a "POS".
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Take the Zire 71, give us a WiFi card that works with it, dump the USB for Bluetooth sync built in and you've got me buying. I really like the Zire - metal case is solid, I won't buy a PDA now without it. I'm sold on it since my Palm V which I still use. Keep the internal built in rechargeable battery. Give me these options on that Zire model at the same price point and I'll replace my V. 90% of the way there. *I like the Zaurus but I'm not looking for a laptop replacement in my PDA. Its overkill for my needs. Plus its syncing options are a kludge at best. PalmOS does exactly what I need it to and it has since I bought a USR PalmPilot years back.
Oh yeah, there's something out there right now called iSync from Apple!
Works over Bluetooth, USB, WiFi to sync your address book, calendar and stuff!
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it wasn't a virus, so, you probably need to get your facts straight on this one.
if you ever saw it, it was actually labelled as "Crack 1.1" [i didn't label it like this - but, thats how it ended up floating on efnet irc channels]. eventually, it came down to "if you run this, you are 100% intending to crack the program, that is, do something illegal". if you got burnt, bad luck. the correct term for such a little program is trojan horse, and, it required the user to intentfully do something illegal before it did anything.
hang out in the Palm channels on EfNet and give it out to people looking
actually, i was banned from #pdawarez - and, i wasn't the messanger for passing this onto other warez kiddies on irc. the user who posted it went under the name "mac" (and, he doesn't do irc anymore - so, good luck finding him).
he told the media a different story
actually, i told the truth. it was one of my more 'evil' thinking friends who though the discussion to make it go further would be more entertaining.. trust me, being hoarded by reporters isn't entertaining at all. the whole ordeal was so upsetting for me i focused my efforts on a new PDA (vtech helio) for six months to let the whole issue rest. this made a lot of other pda users happy - palm still survives though.
Its not like he sent it to Palm or any anti-virus companies before giving it out.
wrong, Palm knew about it way before. i called personally, they said "dont worry about it". anti-virus companies wanted to use it to exploit people into purchasing their software; why would we want that? if they dont have it, how can they justify the anti-virus software? and, you have no idea what type of research projects i have been involved with directly with Palm and their licensee's (current and future). some of the projects are so contraversal, i cannot even discuss them publically. and, i wont ever disclose such information to anyone.
if any of you attended the Defcon 8 Palm security talk, the presenter gave a rather nice break down of the protection scheme.
so, i guess you never saw the paper i wrote for PalmSource 2000 the same year. it also goes into detail about how the system worked for Liberty, the gameboy emulator. it wasn't too bad, no-one could trust the warez community after they were the ones publically saying "download this, lets destroy ardiri - its the first virus" and, users were confused about what was a real crack, and, what was a trojan - so, they purchased the full version. (extra + points for us dont you think)?
PalmSource 2000: Software Protection
anyhow, this whole crap was a media frenzy that went wild way over 2 years ago. what people also fail to realize is why i would personally do something so stupid to commit suicide professionally - if you were so smart, you would also realize my involvement in the palm community in regards to the development of PilRC. so, technically, if you boycott any product - maybe you shouldn't use PilRC. currently, over 85% of developers on the palmos platform depend on PilRC. life goes on. get over it.
i guess you dont even get into the concept of the |HaCkMe| program - which, i released them pulled. i must be so evil.
I think it's time to sell my m515 and upgrade.
my karma will be here long after I'm gone
I very much like / agree / (AOL!) the parent post about modular PDA frame & guts. Good idea.
(sorry for the lame post, but I *can't* moderate today)
Yow! I'm supposed to have a plan?
i just got the tungsten t, and though i like it, the battery life sucks compared to previous models. i have to keep the thing in a charger every day. my old USR palm pilot went weeks before a new battery. i understand the need to keep up with the pocket pc's but one thing palm shouldn't emulate is battery life.
the blue tooth is cool though, and eats up less batteries than wifi. i'm tempted to get a bluetooth access point with a bigger coverage. voip would be cool too.
the most effective way to use your palm is to have someone else fill up your calender and phone numbers.
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Grab a thinkpad 240x >3 pounds, 800x600 res even. Unless you needed that battery life. $300 or so on ebay.
I really need to get a new computer. The XScale prossesor in thr Tungsten C is twice as fast as the Cyrix 6x86MX in my computer!!!
You should really rethink that. A phone in a PDA sounds useful, but the reality is that the form factors are incompatible. What makes a good PDA makes a lousy phone, and vice versa.
A separate phone/PDA that link together with Bluetooth is much more useful.
VNC for Palm has existed for a long time at http://www.wind-junkie.de/PalmVNC/.
If you want all that stuff, how about a Linux based pda??
Where do you want to be, What are you doing to get there.