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Classic BBS 'Door Games' Reborn

digirave writes "Most multiplayer strategy/RPG 'door games' didn't survive the change from the BBS scene to the Internet. The few that did mostly stayed dialup and telnet only. Here are three BBS door games that were quite popular at the time, remade as open-source games for the Web using PHP and MySQL. First of all, there's the Tradewars 2002-inspired game Blacknova, and secondly the LORD (Legend Of The Red Dragon) remake, Legend Of The Green Dragon. Finally, there's a game similar to Solar Realms Elite, QM Promisance, which itself is a modified version of the original Promisance source."

51 comments

  1. Legend of the Green Dragon by tomphaedrus · · Score: 1

    anyone who wants to take on my level 2 LOGD theif in a duel TO THE DEATH is welcome to try

  2. PENN MUSH? by peaceful_bill · · Score: 1
    Maybe a MUSH isn't exactly a "door" game, but it is a multiplayer text game, and I can vouch that the community is alive and well. just a brief perusal through the lists at this great site shows hundreds of high quality, well-attended games.

    I think that you guys should have a topic FOR text games cause, well, err, they are our HISTORY, man!! where would slashdot be without zork, trinity, tradewars, and the rest of them that we all *cough over 30* cut our teeth on??

    1. Re:PENN MUSH? by einer · · Score: 1

      *cough* I'm 24. *cough* I fondly remember tradewares (Prime Evil baby, and with 1024 shield points per planet...), the pit, LOTR, BRE, SRE, and their ilk. I also remember the great local multi-line chat bbs's.

      I paid $200.00 in hard earned newspaper route money for my shiny 14.4 internal modem. I could page bomb 2400 baud modem users off chat boards in under 10 seconds. (please note, I never did, I just ran my little script against a friend to test it)...

      The community was so much tighter knit (due to the small number of folks savvy enough to master those dark incantations known as 'modem init strings') and friendly than the internet.

      Sure do miss those days, but not as much as I'd miss my cable modem. :)

  3. yes.. but they'll never bring this one back by Unominous+Coward · · Score: 1

    Who remembers timebank?

    Way back when BBSs were popular, when you registered , you were given a limited number of minutes and downloads per day. I think it was in the order of 30 minutes and I can't remember how much data you could download. (200KB?)

    After you exceeded either your download quota or your time quota, you could not log back onto the BBS.

    And that's where timebank comes into the picture. On top of all the other text games available, there was a game, called timebank, that let you gamble part (or all) of your download/time quota, with the chance of winning more of either.

    Needless to say, I was naive for thinking I could win anything on a computerised gambling game, but it was fun nonetheless!

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    1. Re:yes.. but they'll never bring this one back by don_carnage · · Score: 1

      Ahh...but what about Leach Z-modem?

      For those of you that don't remember, most BBS's would only charge you a "credit" if your download completed successfully. With Leach Z-modem, it would grab the very last packet and then claim that the download failed. You get the file and get to keep your credit!

    2. Re:yes.. but they'll never bring this one back by notque · · Score: 1

      I remember very well. Betting all of my credits away before taking my turns in lord was a bad move, but I wanted more Tradewars time.

      What are you gonna do?

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    3. Re:yes.. but they'll never bring this one back by Unominous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Aah, yes. I remember having something called Ice-Zmodem that did the same thing.

      The only problem with this was that you still could not start downloading a big file unless it could fit in your daily download quota. And there was no way to roll over credit so you could download big files (without paying)

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  4. Woohoo by nahdude812 · · Score: 1

    Looks like my game made it on Slashdot. Not exactly front page, but I'm not gonna complain :-)

    I strongly urge everyone to head on over to http://lotgd.sourceforge.net and play on your lunch break, this is a well done game even if I do say so myself ;-)

    1. Re:Woohoo by dalamcd · · Score: 1
      I tried, but it didn't work in Safari and I really don't feel like switching to something else.
      There was a huge jumble of text in the upper left corner of the page, so it looks like the menu is all being collapsed into one line. It changed into "Forgotten password" on mouse-over, and the other stuff disappeared.

      dalamcd

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  5. Trade Wars by don_carnage · · Score: 1

    Wow. I can remember logging in to no less than 3 BBS's to play all of my Trade Wars turns every day. It always sucked to find your fighters destroyed, your planetary defenses overrun, and someone squatting on your planet.

    Perhaps one day a gaming company will get multiplayer space battle right. (And I don't mean like Earth and Beyond.)

    1. Re:Trade Wars by notque · · Score: 1

      1 node bbs' were horrid for tradewars!

      I would dial 200+ times to get in. Auto dialer screaming away trying to slide in before the bbs turned over.

      and place 1000's of toll fighters to frustrate the newbs.

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    2. Re:Trade Wars by YetAnotherAnonymousC · · Score: 2, Funny

      It always sucked to find your fighters destroyed, your planetary defenses overrun, and someone squatting on your planet.

      ...especially when that someone was supposed to be an ally. Not that I didn't do the same thing. Always fun to build up positive karma and then burn it on betraying everyone. Maybe slashdot should base their karma on the tradewars system. Keep trolling and end up with interesting ranks like "master troll" or something like that... =)

    3. Re:Trade Wars by notque · · Score: 1

      Yes, but they you wouldn't be able to buy that nice Imperial Starship.

      *drool*

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  6. Yeah, But... by asdfasdfasdfasdf · · Score: 1

    Where the hell is PIMP WARS?

    1. Re:Yeah, But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Exactly,

      That door rawked.

    2. Re:Yeah, But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      www.bordellobattles.com the game is down currently but you can signup to be notified when it gets back online... this game roxs! had over 6000 pimps last round :)

  7. Me too... by Ron+Harwood · · Score: 1

    ...and I didn't even submit the story...

    1. Re:Me too... by nahdude812 · · Score: 1

      I submitted mine about 2 months ago but got the big "Rejected" stamp across my forehead :-). I guess someone liked what they saw though!

  8. Whoa by Ih8sG8s · · Score: 1

    Total flashback for me there. Ahh, I remember running Maximus in 4 shells under OS/2. My phone bills soared. Fidonet stuff.

    What I want to know is, where is Bordello? Managing a bordello was pretty fun as I remember it.

    1. Re:Whoa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      www.bordellobattles.com

  9. BlackNova Traders Shameless Plug by Valur · · Score: 1

    traders.jointhesaga.com If you'd like a place to play that's started up in the last month or so.

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  10. Planets: The Exploration of Space, anyone? by slux · · Score: 2

    Could anyone give a comparison between Tradewars 2002 and Seth Able's less known great door game Planets: The Exploration of Space (or TEOS). I've never played Tradewars and Blacknova traders seemed a little... complicated last time I tried it. I'd really like to relive some of those memories but Blacknova just didn't seem as good for me with a brief attempt at playing it.

    I'd like to see something else than web-based, maybe something like freeciv with separate server and client so we could get cool graphical clients and ones that would look like the old text-based door games. One of the coolest things was the real-time interaction with players simultaneously online and that doesn't work well in a web-based version. Even just a remake that'd work like a mud on the net would be great.

    Oh well, maybe I'll just need to use lynx to play. ;)

    1. Re:Planets: The Exploration of Space, anyone? by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 1

      I think I still have a disk (3.5", no less) somewhere of the original door versions of LORD and Planets signed by Seth Able (Thanks, Seth Able) from back when I ran a BBS. In fact I should go digging for that box of disks with all my old registered doors on it and set a BBS back up in my area. Not like I use the voice line anyway.

      Anyway, the games I'd like to see in one place are: LOD (Lands of Devastation), OOII (operation overkill II), BRE (Baron Realms Elite!), LORD, Tradewars, and Planets. BRE + Tradewars = Excellent.....

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  11. Re:You mean Legend of Red Dragon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    HOly shit, read the f'ing article.

  12. The Clans by tigertigr · · Score: 1

    It was never as popular as any of the doors that have been mentioned already, but the game I wrote has been released under the GPL and is available at here: http://theclans.sourceforge.net/

  13. Lords of Cyberspace by vadius · · Score: 2

    Anyone here ever play Lords of Cyberspace? If I recall correctly, it was only available for MajorBBS/WorldNet systems, and so I have found very few BBSs that still carry it (one, in fact, but it is extremely lagged).

    It was a simple door game, with a small 30x10 text window in the upper left that you navigated around, and some stats on the right. Your mission was to hack as many systems as possible, get your level up to 30, and find the ?three? keys to let you try to get into Valhalla and destroy the Divine Document. You get money and experience through hacking into systems, destroying programs, selling/destroying sensitive documents, and going on special hacking missions. It was kind of a Gibson novel meets a text MUD.

    I would love to see this game revived, and I have even managed to find a demo copy floating around the internet, but I have never been able to find the company or the author of it. It was distributed by Adept Communications, and made by Muinet. I believe they also created a game called Sword of Chaos, but I never played it.

    1. Re:Lords of Cyberspace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i LOVED this game! it was totally addicting... i'd love to give it a run again.

  14. Man, I miss the BBS days by LearningHard · · Score: 1

    Even in my smallish town of 25000 we had two dialup bbs. I remember going home every day and setting my modem to auto-redial each one until I got on so I could use my turns in TradeWars, LORD, and Exitilus. For some reason I absolutely loved Exitilus and wish there was a free open source version now. I guess I could get off my butt and code one.

  15. Cool oldschool by www!!!1 · · Score: 0

    I used to run a BBS, the best were interbbs games of Falcon's Eye, though I think some of our enemies used to cheat something fierce. Tons of fun nonetheless. Was always thinking about writing something similar that runs off a central server so that no one could easily cheat :)

  16. Question regarding door games by notque · · Score: 1

    My favourite door game was a rip off of Risk. What was it called?

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    1. Re:Question regarding door games by Saige · · Score: 1

      It was called Global Wars, and it was popular where I used to call up BBSes - I was usually involved in a couple games at any point in time.

      I was never into the 'big' ones mentioned here - SRE, LORD, TW2002, none of them just ever really clicked for me. I spent a lot of time on Land of the Barons, Phantasia, Power Struggle, and Trade Wars 1000. TW1000 I enjoyed so much more than 2002, as there wasn't all that overly complicated multiple-ship stuff going on. And I so loved the versions that had sales that went up to 99% - nothing like getting fighters for 1 credit each (load up time!!), and even more fun was making as many planets as you could during a sale, scattering them all around the galaxy, and ones in out-of-the-way sectors months later having nearly maxxed themselves out.

      I also remember Arena, though I never got very far in it - seemed quite tough.

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    2. Re:Question regarding door games by notque · · Score: 1

      Global wars was amazing. I was into the obvious choices, but I remember Global wars as being perfect. I was never particularly good at it, but I would play multiple games every day.

      A few years ago, I conjured up that I would log on to a few telnet bbs' and play games.

      Not as much fun.

      I think there is something to the automatic call back, with your modem on recieve to verify you, that makes door games seem all the more fun.

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  17. OO!!!!!! by stalbott972 · · Score: 1

    Oh come on guys!!! None of you remember Operation Overkill!!!!?!?!?!? ooii.vbsoft.org/

    One of the best sci-fi based doorgames (next to TradeWars that is)

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    1. Re:OO!!!!!! by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 1

      Yes, I remember it, I liked Lands of Devastation better, myself though.

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  18. Legend of the Green Dragon by digirave · · Score: 1

    heh.. i setup Legend of the Green Dragon game at http://www.digirave.net

    try it out if you liked L.O.R.D. since it's almost a new game you should have a fair start

  19. Re:You mean Legend of Red Dragon by notque · · Score: 1

    A post is all the more entertaining when someone goes out of their way to explain, and link intricate details about it, and they are catastrophicly out of touch.

    I would mod up funny if I had such an ability.

    (Which is probably why I do not.)

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  20. What ever happened to Usurper? by elluzion · · Score: 1

    Am I the only person who preferred Usurper to LORD? I just found LORD to be boring for some reason.

    1. Re:What ever happened to Usurper? by LynchMan · · Score: 1

      Usurper was a great game also. Played that and LORD religiously on any local BBS.

      I was also a HUGE fan of Mutants!, but that was only on MajorBBS.

  21. Or you could just... by Ron+Harwood · · Score: 1

    ...play it at BlackNova.Net ;)

  22. Slinging MUD around by Kelz · · Score: 1

    Anyone ever played Medievia?

    Its probably the most played MUD today, and I'm still an avid player. Telnet to it here or download a MUD client.

  23. Awesome, by Evoluder · · Score: 1

    I played those games like mad back in my BBS days. I hosted all of those on my own BBS (as well as Operation Overkill ][ and many others). I made several of the ANSI drawings for LORD, maybe I can contribute something to LOGD as well. I have been waiting for someone to do this, I will be setting these up on my webserver ASAP! Ah, the good 'ole days of ANSI gaming.

    1. Re:Awesome, by notque · · Score: 1

      Yes.. my 2400 baud modem and the glory that was deciphering ansi.

      It's a.... fish.... flying..... no... a guy... with a sword?.... no.... Oh... It says Lord. Neat.

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  24. MajorBBS and Crosswordz.... by wwwssabbsdotcom · · Score: 1

    ...I ran The Laser Connection in Clifton, NJ years ago on MajorBBS and loved having people logged in for hours playing CrossWORDS, a real-time chat and Scrabble game. Tradewars 2002, and a few others, all were very popular. I have to get back into more workon the telnet version we have running at www.ssabbs.com, get TW2002 back up and running. Ah, the past, great bbsing before the internet.

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  25. BBS Software? by zerocool^ · · Score: 1

    Hey, can anyone reccomend a good BBS software package?

    I'm not sure if anyone is still reading this page, but..

    I'm looking for Linux x86, preferably reasonably mature, and supporting telephone and telnet. I'd like to hook it up with some of the BBS games.

    ~Will

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    1. Re:BBS Software? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are only 3 that are still being worked on.

      Sbbs Ele and Mystic. Google will take you to them.

      Bryan
      http://www.vbsoft.org

    2. Re:BBS Software? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used Wildcat BBS which roxored, but it was DOS based.

    3. Re:BBS Software? by mink · · Score: 1

      AFAIK WWIV is still active.

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  26. didnt survive? by mink · · Score: 1

    Most BBS door games that were popular seem to have survived and made the jump.
    Maybe the submitter just never paid mutch attention to telnet BBSing.

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