I'm going to tell RMS that you didn't call it GNU/Linux! You'll be sorry when the jackbooted thugs break into your mom's basement and beat you to within an inch of your life, all the time yelling, "GNU/Linux! GNU/Linux! GNU/Linux!"
Who's scared of the BSA, governemnt, multinational corporations, the CIA, or terrorists? You should be scared of the FSF!
Re:Pronounciation
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jonfelder
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· Score: 5, Informative
Who modded this informative? It's wrong. The proper pronounciation is soo'-suh
Re:Pronounciation
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arvindn
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· Score: 3, Informative
SuSE being a German company, I think it should be "soozeh" (which, IIRC, is how SuSE wants it pronounced).
BTW, suse used to be an acronym ("System und Software Entwicklung"), but no longer is. (in contrast to many things in the computing world which started out not being acronyms but later got expansions tacked on to them, like BASIC).
Oh, I've been calling "Soooooossss", all slow and exaggerated out like that. I feel like a freaking idiot.
Thanks for the acronym and pronunciation information.
However, I don't feel ALL dumb because at least I didn't mispell the word proNUNciation (although I probably mispelled others).
Okay, now I feel like a pud again for spontaneously turning into a grammar officer.
Dammit SuSE! Why couldn't you have been easy to pronounce in the first place and saved me all this shame?
Re:Pronounciation
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Qbertino
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· Score: 4, Informative
In germany we pronounce it "Suse". Haha.
Ok, so the first part sounds like "Sue" or "Soo" with a sharp "S" - something like the first sylable in "soup" (like chicken). The second part is "suh" or "ze", like the last sylable in "nose" (sphinx) or "hose" (gardening).
Note that in german you can read pronounciation even if you have never heard the word before. German pupils can usually read - if not very fluently - after 3 months in school! I wonder if a semi-unification of writing and speech, like unifying the writing of sylables (something like "nite" instead of "night") would help the iliteracy problem in the US in any way.
To me personally the difference is very significant since both english and german are my mothertounge. I learned both at the same time along with all the advantages and disadvantages. One being that my spelling in both is not that good, whilst I'm able to pronounce third languages (such as maybe french or japanese) allmost accent free. I account this to the oral 'flexibility' you gain from growing up with a german mother and a texacan father, meaning two somewhat different languages in terms of pronounciation.:-)
-- We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
Suse 8.2 was not reviewed - in fact it was never released! This entire article is a lie! We have destroyed 2 tanks, fighter planes, 2 helicopters and their shovels - We have driven them back. As for The Register, I have detailed information about the situation...which completely proves that what they allege are illusions . . . They lie every day.
-- Former Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf
Re:This did not happen
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water-and-sewer
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· Score: 3, Funny
Wow, Mohammed Saeed Al Sahaf has his own Slashdot user number.
This will be funny once or twice. After that I look forward to modding you DOWN, dude.
What about Natalie Portman? Is she registered?
-- If this were Usenet, I'd killfile the lot of you.
After that I look forward to modding you DOWN, dude.
You can try. I will welcome you with bullets and shoes. Some moderators tried already to downvote me; by the grace of Allah they were destroyed. They will try to enter Baghdad, and I think this is where their graveyard will be. Iraq will spread them even more and chop them up.
-- Former Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf
This is a good review
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 5, Informative
It seems more like...
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duncanatlk
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· Score: 4, Insightful
a review of KDE 3.1 to me.
Version numbers
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 2, Funny
You don't have to read the article to know that RedHat 9.0 is better than SuSE 8.2. Linux 2.5 is the worst. It's way behind the rest of the pack.
I could be wrong...
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LordYUK
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· Score: 3, Informative
but I always thought it was like the girls name "suzy" (soo-zee)
SuSE...::shrugs::
lets see what google says (note, I have no clue who these people in the thread are, so this isnt necessarily fact)
FROM: Frank Pawlak DATE: 01/30/1998 23:22:19 SUBJECT: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE History
On Jan 30, 9:32pm, Jonathan Markevich wrote: > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE History > > > On 30-Jan-98 Frank Pawlak wrote: > > >> Can anyone tell us about the history of the SuSE company? How long has it > >> been in busness? What does SuSE mean? And so on. > > A good question, more importantly, though, how do you pronounce SuSE! I like > "Suzie", though someone else around here likes "Sooz". Ess-You-Ess-Eee has to > go.
Say like so: Sue-sa with a short a at the end. Like Sue-suh maybe. Regards Frank
-- This is my sig. Its pathetic.
Re:ATI Radeon 9000 Pro
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Angry+White+Guy
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· Score: 2, Interesting
That sounds like ATI's Problem.
Open up the drivers!
-- You think that I'm crazy, you should see this guy!
NVidia and SAMBA
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BrynM
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· Score: 4, Interesting
From the article:
I opted for the RPM because nVidia warns of dire consequences with SaX2 configuration otherwise.
Oddly enough, I did just the opposite by using SuSE's "update" feature and it worked flawlessly (even for my TNT2 M64 which is notorious for problems). This is a huge improvement from 7.x, under which I could never get an NVidia card to work right.
SuSE (and other distros) sadly lack an easy way to share a directory under SAMBA. There are a few utilities to browse windows shares and mount them, but nothing to create a share with a GUI. I can't believe I've been mucking around with samba.conf since 5.X! Having it built into Konqueror would be great, but I dream. Has anyone found GUI tools for SAMBA that work well?
By the way, SuSE can't use the SMB Python library, so the killer SAMBA Python GUI isn't possible under SuSE. Such a bummer, because there already is a great tool written under Python. I don't remember the name off the top of my head though.
-- US Democracy:The best person for the job (among These pre-selected choices...)
Re:NVidia and SAMBA
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agentZ
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· Score: 3, Informative
Re:NVidia and SAMBA
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p.rican
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· Score: 3, Informative
I've never had a problem setting up samba using CLI but if you're definitely only interested in a GUI setup, try this: http://www.webmin.com It will also let you perform a lot of other admin type stuff besides SAMBA. I had webmin install with no problems on Debian (Woody testing) and Slackware 7.1
--
/. --"Demented and sad....but social" -Judd Nelson
Updates are much better
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jonfelder
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· Score: 5, Informative
I think one of the biggest improvmenets with SuSE 8.2 are the online updates. While they still download rather slowly, they actually work now.
With 8.1 the online updater always locked up or didn't complete. It only seemed to work if you mirrored the updates locally and then directed online update to run from your lan.
available for $3
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 4, Informative
It's available for $3from budgetlinuxcds.com
Re:available for $3
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sangfroid
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· Score: 5, Informative
Unfortunately, budgetlinuxcds.com is selling the live evaluation disc, not the full distribution.
SuSE offers a live-evaluation disc image for free here. It's not a complete install but it'll give you an idea of what SuSE's all about.
You are allowed to do a full install via ftp (see instructions here). Sure it's not as easy but an FTP install will build some more of that character I'm always hearing about.
I have to say though, YaST is probably the best thing I've seen so far for a Migrating Windows User. It is powerful, flexible, and intuitive for anyone used to Control Panels. SuSE also automatically does some intelligent things like password protect single-user mode (unlike RedHat). IMHO, it's the best new user distribution. Sure, I use Gentoo on my machine but then I'm captivated by watching packages compile for 72 hours straight. -grin-
SuSE Linux comes with drivers for common cards including the following:
ATI: Radeon 9000/9500/9700
nVidia: GeForce 4, GeForce FX
Matrox: G450/G550
I have an 8500DV, which also works (though I haven't tried the special features like video-capture or firewire yet).
Re:ATI Radeon 9000 Pro
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Squarewav
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· Score: 4, Informative
ati has opened up the drivers, well sorta, xfree 4.3 supports it out of the box, theres a few bugs like in tux racer you dont see the trail tux leaves behind, most of the cutting edge distros like redhat will setup everything for you, unless you have a odd ball mb like mine (ali agp8x) then you need to add the following lines to modules.conf
alias char-major-10-175 agpgart
options agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1
make sure you put a newline after or it may complain at boot
No ISOs, no testing, no install.
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caluml
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· Score: 2, Insightful
I don't know how good it is, because they don't let you download ISOs. Simply put, if I (as a user and home user) can't test them, and play, they're never ever going to be bought, and used on my servers at work. Sorry guys, but that's the way it is. You've got to let people try stuff out before they buy. And I don't mean some boot-from-CD-run-in-RAM-thing. If people weren't familiar with MS from using it at home, it'd have a lot less market share in the workplace.
It is not as nice as having an ISO available, but I haven't installed *BSD from a CD in ages, and I hear Suse's FTP install is even easier and more reliable.
Re:No ISOs, no testing, no install.
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C_nemo
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· Score: 3, Informative
You only have to point it to a FTP-server with the suse packages. got one at work, and i have done a FTP install over the net from home, flawless. If you have a broadband connection its as good as iso's.
Re:No ISOs, no testing, no install.
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barnaclebarnes
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· Score: 4, Insightful
...and used on my servers at work.
Someone should tell your boss because that is not how informed decisions are made about what software to install.
/b
-- [Please type your sig here.]
Re:No ISOs, no testing, no install.
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twener
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· Score: 3, Informative
From the README.FTP: "Preparing your own installation server: Just copy the whole installation tree to your local disk and make it available via network."
Re:No ISOs, no testing, no install.
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madcow_ucsb
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· Score: 2, Interesting
ISO's are a stupid waste of bandwidth. FTP installs are far more elegant.
Not for those of us with only one computer. FTP is fine if you have another machine to mirror the tree to, but otherwise your only machine is tied up for god knows how long in an installer. Hmm maybe one of the distros should put in a web browser like you get in a Solaris install...then at least you can stay entertained.
The benefit to ISOs for people like me (living off a laptop at the moment) is that you just need to download one file and then it's on a CD and you can just keep it around. No hassle.
Besides, show me an ftp install that lets you use download accelerator (or prozilla or whatever). Without that I usually get around 100k/sec on my cable. Use it and I max it out at 400.
SuSE 8.2 freezes
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oever
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· Score: 3, Interesting
SuSE is losing more and more credit with me. I bought the SuSE 8.2 Professional upgrade and installed it on a Compaq Presario 1714EA. Result: the machine freezes after about 5 minutes of use! There a few boot options one can try in such a case, e.g. acpi=off. But none of these work.
Right now I'm communicating with the helpdesk and this is no big pleasure either. After my initial mail, I received the advice to reinstall the system with the safe settings (a boot menu option). I had already done this, since the normal settings wouldn't boot.
After saying that I'd already installed with safe settings, I was told that reinstalling really would help. So I did this and it (of course) didn't help.
The next idea the helpdesk had was to ask me to give them a list of the hardware in my computer (this list is also sent to SuSE when doing a support query, but apparently, they lost it). I provided the list and the next day I got an email asking me to check the computers memory and use a special boot option. The memory's ok and the boot option didn't work, so I'm now waiting for their next question.
However, when SuSE is installed, it runs quite well. But many applications are missing and a lot of hardware is not recognized, e.g. my pcmcia network card.
The new update checker is convenient but very buggy! It crashes a lot and after updating, the checker's icon still signals you to update.
So, in conclusion, I can say that I'll continue using SuSE (on the machine on which it does not freeze), at least until the end of the support period.
If you think SuSE is a nice distro for newbies: forget it. It takes ages until you've got it running smoothly. Once it works, it works, but it's not much different from any other disto. The install's horrible.
-- DNA is the ultimate spaghetti code.
Re:SuSE 8.2 freezes
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ElGuapoGolf
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· Score: 3, Informative
Try adding disableapic to your boot options.
Re:SuSE 8.2 freezes
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ElGuapoGolf
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· Score: 2, Informative
Well, like the other posters have said, it could be a kernel or graphics problem.
Try booting into runlevel 3 and see if that helps.
I'll also throw another theory out there.. Do you, by chance, have a VIA IDE chipset? If you do, you probably know they're really, REALLY buggy but you can work around that. Anyhow, if you do have a via chipset, how do you have your system configured (drives-wise)?
Cheaper on linux-screws - not eval
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rumpledstiltskin
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· Score: 2, Interesting
sorry for the shameless plug. Linux Screws is about to launch. SuSE 8.2 will be available there for 9.95 plus shipping. this will be the full version, not the live eval, because with all of the distributions they provide, the customer will actually only be paying for a computer screw. The linux distribution would be provided free of charge.
Re:Cheaper on linux-screws - not eval
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StarTux
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· Score: 2, Insightful
Will this be made from the FTP version? Because otherwise you cannot charge anything for SuSE 8.2 because of the licensing of the Yast tools, unless you have permission first from SuSE.
Linux Newbie
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Infernon
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· Score: 5, Interesting
I'm a linux newbie. I've been using Windows for years. That being said... I went out and picked up SuSE 8.2 last week and installed it under VMWare and I love it (despite the fact that I can't get VMWare tools to install!). I think that KDE 3.1 kicks the living snot out of Windows, period. I would even propose that my mother could use it without a problem. As the article said, the installation was flawless and it picked up the virtual NIC automatically. I didn't encounter one problem (except as noted above) and I found that I started running the VM fullscreen despite the low resolution because I just enjoyed working with it. I'm not ready to get involved on a command-line level as of yet and probably won't until I finish my MCSE (please don't flame me!), but it's definitely a tight package compared to other Linux installs that I've played with before. Sadly, Linux doesn't seem to have much support for games and it's really the only reason that I haven't dumped Windows from my main machine and taken the plunge. I know that everyone talks a good deal about WINE, but I've heard that there are problems with it. Oh well, just my two cents...
A copy of SuSE - $50 A second 20 gig Hard Drive - ~$75 Being able to switch OSes with a simple reboot - Priceless
There are something money can't buy. For everything else, there is larger storage.
Re:Linux Newbie
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ccbaxter
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· Score: 2, Insightful
I'm not ready to get involved on a command-line level as of yet and probably won't until I finish my MCSE (please don't flame me!), but it's definitely a tight package compared to other Linux installs that I've played with before.
This is not a flame. I never finished my MCSE, but I have learned more about underlying network technology through using Linux via command-line (SuSe was my first distro and what I still use) than I ever did studying for the MCSE. Trust me - you are ready for the command-line.
-- Dude, where's my Karma?
Xandros - GUI for Samba!
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Drinian
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· Score: 2, Informative
Xandros' File Manager makes this very easy. Xandros has the best Samba setup and usage I've ever seen. It just works out of the box.
I know we're talking another distribution other than SuSE, but still it's worth a mention.
OK, so maybe I'll give this "Linux" thing a try
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larsoncc
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· Score: 3, Interesting
Well, while I was in my hippie college days (4 years ago?), I actually tried Linux (SuSE, actually). I thought it was kind of cool, but somewhat difficult to set up. It didn't support anything.
Now, I know this post might be a Karma burn, but what the hell. I don't post too much on Slashdot anyway. I just thought I'd ask for some opinions here.
I am a Windows developer in a Windows world. for the most part, I've really liked it (see, told you it was a Karma burn). I haven't found much that I hate about Windows at all. And I'm not the type of guy to invent reasons to hate an operating system (come on guys, life is too short for that!). I don't think I could ever use the term "M$" without slapping myself silly.
I've used other OSes, but I've never switched. Just hasn't been practical.
My income is currently tied to Windows. While somewhat "plain", I have enjoyed the Windows interface.
So, I guess the question here is... Is it time to try Linux again? What's different now? Slashdot seems to trumpet the arrival of even the most minor Linux upgrade.... Is this different?
Can I install Linux and be productive in less than 5 hours? Can I insert a CD and have the install routine work? Are there any games yet?
Here's a newbie (and odd!) question for you: Can I develop Windows applications from within Linux now? Or at least run VS or VS.NET?
Just wondering. Hope it wasn't too terrible a sin to post this...
Re:OK, so maybe I'll give this "Linux" thing a try
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ElGuapoGolf
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· Score: 4, Interesting
Well, the install takes about a half hour. Maybe more, maybe less, depends on your hardware. This will install the OS, OpenOffice.org's office suite, multimedia stuff, etc. If you want a DVD player, thanks to our friend the DMCA, you'll have to go grab some rpm's and install them, about 5 minutes of your time.
Installing a copy of Tribes 2 or UT2003 will take a few minutes. There are other games. Does that answer the gaming question?
Of course, you'll want to install other stuff, and whatnot. Roughly setting up, timewise, is going to be a little less than setting up with windows.//Rant Now, as a developer, who's done both Win and *nix development, you couldn't really find any way to put a nice spin on Windows development. And, by development, I'm not talking about writing some cute little VB database front ends.
I'm talking about writing backend stuff. Data handling stuff. Servers. Things where windows just doesn't do well. Need to share objects? COM? Who came up with that horrible idea. regsvr32? WTF is up with that?//End Rant
Don't forget apt!
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Phantasmo
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· Score: 4, Informative
The US Army: promoting democracy through unquestioned obedience
Re:Don't forget apt!
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Makarakalax
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· Score: 3, Interesting
I use APT with SuSE and have found it to be excellent (although I can't compare it with other rpm distros that have apt-repositories).
I haven't used YaST to update since I installed APT4RPM, I get newer versions of important packages like Mozilla and KDE, I can update via a cron job and I dist-upgraded from 8.0 to 8.1 solely with APT, I also plan to upgrade from 8.1 to 8.2 this weekend or the next.
I've experienced very few problems using APT, although I imagine Debian's packaging works better with APT since.debs are packaged with APT in mind and SuSE doesn't officially support APT.
The documentation for SuSE APT4RPM is outstanding and thorough and the mailing-lists are helpful and informative.
If you use SuSE you should really be using APT as well.
I'm not on the project or anything, just a satisfied user!
The truth is, if you see no reason to switch to Linux, then you probably shouldn't. If you like your current environment, and don't feel a political, philosophical, or technical imperative to switch, don't.
There are many reasons to switch to Linux; the protection of our future rights and freedoms is not least (philosophical and political imperatives). Linux is more stable than XP in my experience, but not by that much (technical). MS-Windows still has all the games, though. (Although, I have to say: I would rather play a game on my PS2 than on my computer.)
Linux installs within about an hour. You should be productive within a couple of hours after that, but you will spend the next 20 years learning. (Of course, you better spend the next 20 years learning no matter what system you choose.)
If you want to develop MS-Windows programs, for God's sake, man, use MS-Windows! Don't drive yourself crazy trying to do some devilishly-complicated scheme, when the simple solution is, well, simple.
I believe it is dangerous to support Microsoft in any way. Their history has shown they will destroy any emergent technology simply to retain a lock on "innovation." If you are doing anything remotely interesting, they are likely to either buy you up (good for you), or kill you (bad for you). Either way, you benefit Microsoft more than yourself.
I also believe you are giving up your rights by using Microsoft products. Their EULA are becoming draconian; at some poing, you will have no rights at all.
Linux brings back the fun in computing, both at the systems level, and at the development level. I haven't had so much fun with a system since the old Apple ][ days. Of course, I've been using Linux for almost 10 years now, so it's been a long fun jag.
If these arguments do not appeal to you, then you probably have nothing to gain by moving to Linux. Stick with what you have. Don't kill yourself by attempting a switch.
However, if you'd like to see what the fun is all about, pull out an old PII computer and install away. Play with it, integrate it with your home network, start exploring the things that interest you. You can have the best of both worlds, you know. It's not an either/or proposition.
But, no matter what you do, have fun. Keep one eye on the future, but don't let yourself become blind to the present: have extreme amounts of fun.
After all, that's what life is all about.
-- Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
Re:Don't Bother
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Dunkirk
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· Score: 3, Interesting
I also believe you are giving up your rights by using Microsoft products. Their EULA are becoming draconian; at some poing, you will have no rights at all.
Have you read Red Hat's service agreements for the new "Enterprise" line? It'll shock you. They're not much different any more. We just printed ours out yesterday to read the fine print.
Don't believe me? How about, by agreeing, you give Red Hat the right to walk into your building at take stock of all your software. How's that for "Microsoft-like?"
We're going to be cancelling our contract. Which, by the way, you MUST do in writing, 60 days before the end, or you WILL be held accountable for another year's worth of your agreement. How's that for "IBM-like?"
The lines are getting fuzzier these days, fellow geeks. Please vote with your dollars. I'm not against Linux companies making money, but when a company changes your terms IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TERM, then there needs to be some karmic retribution.
-- Acts 17:28, "For in Him we live, and move, and have our being."
Re:GPL is a wonderful thing
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twener
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· Score: 2
> Show me specific law where the software distributed on SuSE 8.2 is either not GPL (or similar) or under a free-beer license.
Read the YaST license: "It is forbidden to reproduce or distribute data carriers which have been reproduced without authorisation for payment without the prior written consent of SuSE Linux AG or SuSE Linux."
Today, I answer your prayers.
by
FreeLinux
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· Score: 2, Informative
Slashdot Mirror
A bit OT here, but I have no idea how you pronounce SuSE. Is it like Sussie or like Sousa (without the a)?
Just curious. Maybe this is a lInix/lEEnix thing.
THIS SPACE FOR RENT
Suse 8.2 was not reviewed - in fact it was never released! This entire article is a lie! We have destroyed 2 tanks, fighter planes, 2 helicopters and their shovels - We have driven them back. As for The Register, I have detailed information about the situation...which completely proves that what they allege are illusions . . . They lie every day.
Former Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf
This review of SuSE is much more informative:
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3163
a review of KDE 3.1 to me.
You don't have to read the article to know that RedHat 9.0 is better than SuSE 8.2. Linux 2.5 is the worst. It's way behind the rest of the pack.
but I always thought it was like the girls name "suzy" (soo-zee)
::shrugs::
SuSE...
lets see what google says (note, I have no clue who these people in the thread are, so this isnt necessarily fact)
FROM: Frank Pawlak
DATE: 01/30/1998 23:22:19
SUBJECT: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE History
On Jan 30, 9:32pm, Jonathan Markevich wrote:
> Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE History
>
>
> On 30-Jan-98 Frank Pawlak wrote:
>
> >> Can anyone tell us about the history of the SuSE company? How long has it
> >> been in busness? What does SuSE mean? And so on.
>
> A good question, more importantly, though, how do you pronounce SuSE! I like
> "Suzie", though someone else around here likes "Sooz". Ess-You-Ess-Eee has
to
> go.
Say like so: Sue-sa with a short a at the end. Like Sue-suh maybe.
Regards
Frank
This is my sig. Its pathetic.
That sounds like ATI's Problem.
Open up the drivers!
You think that I'm crazy, you should see this guy!
SuSE (and other distros) sadly lack an easy way to share a directory under SAMBA. There are a few utilities to browse windows shares and mount them, but nothing to create a share with a GUI. I can't believe I've been mucking around with samba.conf since 5.X! Having it built into Konqueror would be great, but I dream. Has anyone found GUI tools for SAMBA that work well?
By the way, SuSE can't use the SMB Python library, so the killer SAMBA Python GUI isn't possible under SuSE. Such a bummer, because there already is a great tool written under Python. I don't remember the name off the top of my head though.
US Democracy:The best person for the job (among These pre-selected choices...)
I think one of the biggest improvmenets with SuSE 8.2 are the online updates. While they still download rather slowly, they actually work now.
With 8.1 the online updater always locked up or didn't complete. It only seemed to work if you mirrored the updates locally and then directed online update to run from your lan.
It's available for $3from budgetlinuxcds.com
Dear Suzy,
Congratulations on your new version 8.2! Your pics on the Register are hot. I think I'll install you on my new P4.
Love,
Linus
In the other hand, in Linux and Main they have a mostly negative review.
But, at least for me, it installed without problems in the systems I tried, and it looks more mature than 8.1, is not just a package versions upgrade.
The hardware requirements page suggests that it does:
SuSE Linux comes with drivers for common cards including the following:
ATI: Radeon 9000/9500/9700
nVidia: GeForce 4, GeForce FX
Matrox: G450/G550
I have an 8500DV, which also works (though I haven't tried the special features like video-capture or firewire yet).
ati has opened up the drivers, well sorta, xfree 4.3 supports it out of the box, theres a few bugs like in tux racer you dont see the trail tux leaves behind, most of the cutting edge distros like redhat will setup everything for you, unless you have a odd ball mb like mine (ali agp8x) then you need to add the following lines to modules.conf
alias char-major-10-175 agpgart
options agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1
make sure you put a newline after or it may complain at boot
I don't know how good it is, because they don't let you download ISOs. Simply put, if I (as a user and home user) can't test them, and play, they're never ever going to be bought, and used on my servers at work. Sorry guys, but that's the way it is. You've got to let people try stuff out before they buy. And I don't mean some boot-from-CD-run-in-RAM-thing. If people weren't familiar with MS from using it at home, it'd have a lot less market share in the workplace.
Get your own free personal location tracker
SuSE is losing more and more credit with me. I bought the SuSE 8.2 Professional upgrade and installed it on a Compaq Presario 1714EA. Result: the machine freezes after about 5 minutes of use! There a few boot options one can try in such a case, e.g. acpi=off. But none of these work.
Right now I'm communicating with the helpdesk and this is no big pleasure either. After my initial mail, I received the advice to reinstall the system with the safe settings (a boot menu option). I had already done this, since the normal settings wouldn't boot.
After saying that I'd already installed with safe settings, I was told that reinstalling really would help. So I did this and it (of course) didn't help.
The next idea the helpdesk had was to ask me to give them a list of the hardware in my computer (this list is also sent to SuSE when doing a support query, but apparently, they lost it). I provided the list and the next day I got an email asking me to check the computers memory and use a special boot option. The memory's ok and the boot option didn't work, so I'm now waiting for their next question.
However, when SuSE is installed, it runs quite well. But many applications are missing and a lot of hardware is not recognized, e.g. my pcmcia network card.
The new update checker is convenient but very buggy! It crashes a lot and after updating, the checker's icon still signals you to update.
So, in conclusion, I can say that I'll continue using SuSE (on the machine on which it does not freeze), at least until the end of the support period.
If you think SuSE is a nice distro for newbies: forget it. It takes ages until you've got it running smoothly. Once it works, it works, but it's not much different from any other disto. The install's horrible.
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sorry for the shameless plug. Linux Screws is about to launch. SuSE 8.2 will be available there for 9.95 plus shipping. this will be the full version, not the live eval, because with all of the distributions they provide, the customer will actually only be paying for a computer screw. The linux distribution would be provided free of charge.
I'm a linux newbie. I've been using Windows for years. That being said...
I went out and picked up SuSE 8.2 last week and installed it under VMWare and I love it (despite the fact that I can't get VMWare tools to install!). I think that KDE 3.1 kicks the living snot out of Windows, period. I would even propose that my mother could use it without a problem.
As the article said, the installation was flawless and it picked up the virtual NIC automatically. I didn't encounter one problem (except as noted above) and I found that I started running the VM fullscreen despite the low resolution because I just enjoyed working with it.
I'm not ready to get involved on a command-line level as of yet and probably won't until I finish my MCSE (please don't flame me!), but it's definitely a tight package compared to other Linux installs that I've played with before.
Sadly, Linux doesn't seem to have much support for games and it's really the only reason that I haven't dumped Windows from my main machine and taken the plunge. I know that everyone talks a good deal about WINE, but I've heard that there are problems with it.
Oh well, just my two cents...
Xandros' File Manager makes this very easy. Xandros has the best Samba setup and usage I've ever seen. It just works out of the box. I know we're talking another distribution other than SuSE, but still it's worth a mention.
Well, while I was in my hippie college days (4 years ago?), I actually tried Linux (SuSE, actually). I thought it was kind of cool, but somewhat difficult to set up. It didn't support anything.
Now, I know this post might be a Karma burn, but what the hell. I don't post too much on Slashdot anyway. I just thought I'd ask for some opinions here.
I am a Windows developer in a Windows world. for the most part, I've really liked it (see, told you it was a Karma burn). I haven't found much that I hate about Windows at all. And I'm not the type of guy to invent reasons to hate an operating system (come on guys, life is too short for that!). I don't think I could ever use the term "M$" without slapping myself silly.
I've used other OSes, but I've never switched. Just hasn't been practical.
My income is currently tied to Windows. While somewhat "plain", I have enjoyed the Windows interface.
So, I guess the question here is... Is it time to try Linux again? What's different now? Slashdot seems to trumpet the arrival of even the most minor Linux upgrade.... Is this different?
Can I install Linux and be productive in less than 5 hours? Can I insert a CD and have the install routine work? Are there any games yet?
Here's a newbie (and odd!) question for you: Can I develop Windows applications from within Linux now? Or at least run VS or VS.NET?
Just wondering. Hope it wasn't too terrible a sin to post this...
Video Game News, FAQs, etc
There's an apt repository for SuSE 8.2.
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The truth is, if you see no reason to switch to Linux, then you probably shouldn't. If you like your current environment, and don't feel a political, philosophical, or technical imperative to switch, don't.
There are many reasons to switch to Linux; the protection of our future rights and freedoms is not least (philosophical and political imperatives). Linux is more stable than XP in my experience, but not by that much (technical). MS-Windows still has all the games, though. (Although, I have to say: I would rather play a game on my PS2 than on my computer.)
Linux installs within about an hour. You should be productive within a couple of hours after that, but you will spend the next 20 years learning. (Of course, you better spend the next 20 years learning no matter what system you choose.)
If you want to develop MS-Windows programs, for God's sake, man, use MS-Windows! Don't drive yourself crazy trying to do some devilishly-complicated scheme, when the simple solution is, well, simple.
I believe it is dangerous to support Microsoft in any way. Their history has shown they will destroy any emergent technology simply to retain a lock on "innovation." If you are doing anything remotely interesting, they are likely to either buy you up (good for you), or kill you (bad for you). Either way, you benefit Microsoft more than yourself.
I also believe you are giving up your rights by using Microsoft products. Their EULA are becoming draconian; at some poing, you will have no rights at all.
Linux brings back the fun in computing, both at the systems level, and at the development level. I haven't had so much fun with a system since the old Apple ][ days. Of course, I've been using Linux for almost 10 years now, so it's been a long fun jag.
If these arguments do not appeal to you, then you probably have nothing to gain by moving to Linux. Stick with what you have. Don't kill yourself by attempting a switch.
However, if you'd like to see what the fun is all about, pull out an old PII computer and install away. Play with it, integrate it with your home network, start exploring the things that interest you. You can have the best of both worlds, you know. It's not an either/or proposition.
But, no matter what you do, have fun. Keep one eye on the future, but don't let yourself become blind to the present: have extreme amounts of fun.
After all, that's what life is all about.
Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
> Show me specific law where the software distributed on SuSE 8.2 is either not GPL (or similar) or under a free-beer license.
Read the YaST license: "It is forbidden to reproduce or distribute data carriers which have been reproduced without authorisation for payment without the prior written consent of SuSE Linux AG or SuSE Linux."
Do you mean like this?
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