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Matrix Reloads to $42.5 Million Opening
Dante Alighieri writes "Box Office Mojo,
the Washington Post, E!, and others reports that The Matrix Reloaded opened with a record of $42.5 million in ticket sales."
I saw it yesterday and have a variety of opinions on it, but the short review is that it isn't the original, but it's pretty damn cool, and I'm first in line for Revolution.
When you have a somewhat accurate portrayal of hacking in movies?
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Coincidence? Yeah, probably.
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I thought that the first Matrix movie did two things well...1) had great, fantastical action sequences, and 2) messed with Neo's head and thus our heads.
it sounds like they decided to drop the latter and concentrate on the former. too bad, but maybe they are just doing what they are good at.
I found
Scott Kurtz's review very interesting.
that a ceratin scene in zion where lots of skin is shown along with partying was completely uncessary and detrcted form the theme of the movie?
The war with islam is a war on the beast
The war on terror is a war for peace
First I've heard of it.
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[minor spoilers]
I saw Matrix last night, but it seems that the silly folks at the theater lost the last 5-15 minutes of the movie!
One second, we were watching Neo and the other dude on the table, and then all of a sudden the movie abruptly said "To be continued", and went straight switched to the credits!
Where's the conclusion? I'm out here hanging in the wind! Half the audience was booing...
Argggg!
[/minor spoilers , but I think it's fair to warn people about the ending to this movie so they're not dissapointed]
"Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
I don't know about everyone else but, Reloaded basically told everyone that the first movie was bullshit.
I was disappointed with the villain development (there wasn't any.)Some of the fight scenes were totally unecessary, especially the replication scene. Neo just supermans his ass out of there after exploiting all of the latest filming techniques.
Revolutions better fix things up or I'm going to be a very sad panda.
I saw the movie last night. My opinion is definitely mixed. The action, was non-stop and outrageous (good), once it got really going. The plot was garbled. The Mind trips were wild. The sex scene, boring uninspired and looking like a hack for 14yo boys. The special effects some better than most(Computer Animation sucked and was OBVIOUS). The ending, uninspired, and transperent. The trailer following the credits, gives away the next movie, and the sucky ending to this one.
Overall rating (scale 1-10) 7.15
This is just MY view, you are entitled to yours. This one is mine.
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Not trying to troll here, but the problem with it, IMO, is that the Wachowskis (who wrote and directed it) received so much praise for the first Matrix movie, that they were under the impression the whole world wanted to hear them babble on and on about it.
Characters will talk for what seems like hours and never actually say anything. In the first movie, the language was simple (Morpheus holds up a battery and proclaims that the machines: "Turn humans... into this."), and you just had to wrap your head around the concepts. In RELOADED, you have to wade through all the tech talk before you can even start to understand what you're being told... by then it's time for the next scene already.
Also a problem was the overabundance of subplots (Agent Smith, the Morpheus love-triangle, the operator of the Nebachadneza(sp?) and his wife, etc) that they're all underdeveloped and hard to care about.
Great action though. The Wachowskis obviously care about developing their mythology quite a bit, and that's commendable (and for some, this will demand repeated viewing), but they just need to make it a little more accessible IMO.
"But the cars are all flashing me, bright lights are passing me, I feel life passing me by" - Stiff Little Fingers
Both movies were highly stylized action films which relied on mysticism and special effects to cover up what they really are.
I mean, wether you agree that it's profound or not (I never understood that one), you can't argue with the fact that The Matrix was a pretty, but pretty mediocre genre film.
Enjoyable, sure; but take it for what it is, and stop trying to read crap into it which isn't there!
True, it wasn't much like the first one....But is that so bad? Wasn't it still a good movie? Besides, it has to be a hacker movie, because the Wachowski bros. don't know a sex scene from their asses!
If my answers frighten you, stop asking scary questions.
Hmm, you didn't think that the whole architect guy mentioning several other "saviours" wasn't messing with Neo? Or the Oracle for that matter? This issue of choice messed with him, just as much as the issue of reality messed with him in the first one.
Now, I was seriously messed with right when he was given choices, but I was also messed with later when I contemplated what is being said: "You're not here to make a choice, you've already made it, you're here to find out why you made that choice." Wow. So life isn't making choices, but discovering who we are and why we do what we do. Maybe you don't agree with it, but it is something to think about, and to, in your terms, "mess with our heads."
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Hissing 'Matrix' fans reloaded w/ tickets, popcorn
Stephanie Paterik
The Arizona Republic
May. 16, 2003 02:10 PM
Hard-core Matrix Reloaded fans threw popcorn, pounded on the projection room window and ran screaming from the theater when a projector broke during a first-night showing in Chandler.
Hundreds of people waited hours at Harkins Chandler Fashion Center to see the highly anticipated Matrix sequel at 11 p.m. on opening night Wednesday. A projector lamp broke during the heavily advertised freeway chase scene.
"The movie was ruined," said Ward Andrews, 28, of Chandler. "You're excited, you're tense and then you don't get to see the key sequence in the film."
The audio continued to roll but was drowned out by people yelling and shaking their seats. One man climbed on someone's shoulders to pound on the projection room window, said Aubrey Johnson, 22, of Chandler, who waited five hours to see the show.
The problem was fixed in 10 minutes, but it was impossible to rewind and show the missed two minutes, said Harkins' Jackie Faubus. People who left were given two movie passes each. Those who stayed got coupons for free popcorn.
5/4/2002 Spider-Man $43,622,264
5/15/2003 The Matrix Reloaded $42,508,303
5/3/2002 Spider-Man $39,406,872
11/16/2002 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets $34,213,803
11/17/2001 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone $33,512,941
11/16/2001 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone $32,333,203
5/3/2003 X2: X-Men United $32,000,629
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I think some people went to this movie thinking it would make them realize much more out of life than is expected, much like the first. But if you read any modern philosophy (Berkeley, Hume, Kant, etc) you would already have answered the questions the first movie brought up. Now in reloaded the Wachowski brothers just surfaced more of the same philosophers original works. Causality, purpose, yada yada, that was all dealt with in the new movie; in the first it was epistemology.
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I went into this movie only for the action shots. On the other hand I did enjoy the brief breaks like the "rave". Coulda done without so much of Reeve's skin and a little more of Moss's, which I've dubbed Trinititty
Anyways, goto the movie only expecting awsome effects. The philosophy's still there but much more subtle. Being that Revolutions was filmed at the same time I doubt it will be any different than this one.
On a side note, Enter the Matrix looks like a fun game. I'll rent before buying it.
Who is that masked man?
...this movie was cool. Just the action and intellectual level I was looking to see on a Friday night. Furthermore, my experience with "Star Wars" (Episodes 1 and 2) has given me the ability to endure surprising amounts of poor acting and stilted dialogue. I'm ready to throw down another $8.75 to see that movie again, and I'm someone who is too cheap to go see movies in theaters to being with.
...is that the evil computers are running Unix?! :)
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
I think the problem is that the first hour of the movie has none of the questioning. Neo isn't really challenged on that level. In the first movie, almost every single scene presented some new piece of information. In this one, there's a lot of running around and fighting, and in between those scenes, it's people talking about doing it. Either that, or we're treated to overly long rave scenes and overly long exposition about "cause and effect."
The last half is when things got cool and felt like a sequel to the first one.
Granted, much of these structure problems may make more sense when Revolutions is released, since they were treated as one big movie split in two. The movie was good, but I missed the goth-noir feel of the first one, and I missed the real sense of danger. Only near the end did I feel that.
"Sufferin' succotash."
From a philosophical and spiritual point of view I enjoyed this film more than the first. I left the first film thinking, wow what a great idea. I left this film questioning everything I just saw. The angle of Neo being the rebellious child of the world that was created by the architect, and realizing that he has free will and the same abilities the creators of the Matrix and lesser programs have really resonated with me. I can see where they are going and am quite interested in seeing if the real world is discovered to be another type of Matrix. Which I hope is the bold angle they might take instead of it being part of the same Matrix designed as a distraction. The creators of this film truly managed to convey a deep message intertwined with intense action and the idea that "he is just human" disputing itself repeatedly. They expounded on the original concept very well, leaving splintering questions in my mind. He was handed a spoon in the real world before returning to the Matrix. Maybe he will realize once again that there is no spoon. After all, what is real?
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Taking into consideration, it makes the death of all of those people at the end more real.
It is much easier to forget about the deaths of those you have never seen. This helps to lend credence to the fact that the number of dead was quite staggering.
-- Dan
For those of you that have not seen all of the Animatrix, there were 2 direct references to it in Reloaded.
1) Final Flight of the Osiris: well, this reference one is obvious enough. The Osiris is a sister ship that sees the comming army and sends a warning message back to Zion.
2) Kid's Story: In this Animatrix Neo gives some kid a personal invite out of the matrix and he makes it. I'm almost certain that the kid following Neo around in Zion is this same kid (especially the "I didn't save you, you saved yourself" quote, which follows with the Animatrix how the kid cept himself alive).
Oh, and no, the Animatrix doesn't come out on DVD for an other 2 weeks or so, which is a shame. You think they would have released it first since it really adds quite a bit to the story.
Opening is usually the opening weekend, from Friday to Sunday. Thursday is not considered part of that opening weekend.
This reminds me of the time I was walking down the street, just minding my own business, when some nicely dressed gentlemen on bicycles were going around passing out Morman religious materials. Since I am proud of my religion, I find it somewhat offensive when these guys come up and offer theirs. They always like to ask questions, too. So these two guys come up and ask me if I'd like a Bible. (At least they cut to the chase this time.) Holding up my arms as if presenting a new reality, I say, "This... is the construct." The guys were like, uh, let's get out of here!!! On another occasion, I said, "Do you hear that?" (Hear what?) "That is the sound of inevitability."
In real life, were we not concerned about making a living or feeding children, what would we do all day? It would not be much different than what we saw in that scene, if you thought it might all end shortly.
All I know is, if I ever get the sense that I might be dead within 24 hours, Monica Belluci better not be within driving distance of me, or she is going to get more from me than what Neo gave her.
I was listening to part of a program on NPR that was saying that the Matrix had to use violence to attract people in order to get its message through. As a sequel, the violence must be better than the previous movie. I was annoyed too, but maybe this says more about the kind of society we live in than what kind of judgement was used in making the movie. The second half of the movie made it well worth it.
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So since this is a spoiler thread, do you think all we have seen so far has been inside the matrix? Instead of having 5 "rebirths" of "the one", the same Neo has had to go through the same story over and over again. We are told that everyone has to make a choice to accept the Matrix, at a certain level. Are the machines trying to crush Neo's hope and get him to accept the Matrix as reality by giving him false hope, over and over again? Was the Matrix fully "reloaded" this time around? I see a new Matrix game coming out that has the Matrix "reloaded" instead of you dying.
This movie has left me much more puzzled than the first one . .
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So rape is now a celebration of the human spirit? You sick fuck.
Did anyone else think 'Ghostbusters' when they started talking about the Keymaker?
"Are you the gatekeeper?"
"I am the Keymaster!"
They probably did the hacker love scene perfectly. I haven't seen the movie yet, but imagine you're the W brothers.
/. readership's first time would be like. That scene was probably accurate. :)
You have 2 presumably virgin hackers. They make love for the first time. Is it gonna be John Holmes XXX style or is it gonna be clumsy and 'woops wrong hole, sorry'?
Just imagine what 75% of
Shut up, asshole. She wants me.
SPOILER DO not READ further if you HAVE not SEEN and dont WANT to KNOW.
Is it just me or has everyone missed the fact NEO messed with the supposedly 'real' world at the end ? They are still in the Matrix. There is more than one. Zion is a Matrix, one built with different rules, a different purpose. It serves the needs of the phophecy. The question is if NEO can break the cycle.
I don't ask you to be me. I only ask you not expect me to be you.
1. The Orgy Scene
2. The Twins
3. Neo and Trinity
1. This is my biggest and only real complaint about the movie. This scene lasted much too long. At first, I could not even imagine a purpose for the scene, but someone in this comment forum has carelessly yet effectively explained how the scene's purpose was to illustrate the humans' love for real life. When humanity itself is threatened and you are the occupants of the last human city, you can bet that the primal instincts are going to come out and play. Still, I think the scene could have been significantly shortened. (Then again, there's no telling whose faces we might see if we look slowly and carefully through the scene when the DVD is released.)
2. I'm not sure if I am disappointed or relieved, but I feel like the Twins were showcased more in the trailers than the movie warranted. Or perhaps the point was to lead us to believe that their role was more prominent than it is in order to surprise us with Agent Smith, whose scenes surpassed everything I had imagined prior to seeing the film. Either way, I feel like they could have done more or played a role closer to the center of the plot, but as things are, they should still be around for the third installment...
3. Okay, this is just the teenage boy in me, and maybe this can be an outtake, a spoof, or something else later, but why don't Neo and Trinity "play" around in the Construct? Can you imagine the limits they could reach with the ability to program various skills, ideas, locales into their minds? The possibilities are endless! Matrix p0rn! (Okay, the end.)
Finally, it must be said that the visual effects were awesome, Rob Dougan's and Juno Factor's music was killer, and, well, there isn't enough to be said about the story. Great movie. I plan to see it several times more ... before I turn 21 in July.
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You can't make a sequel without adding complexity. That's what a sequel *IS*. You're basically just proving my point: I say "the people who didn't like Reloaded thought so because they were expecting it to be what the first one was" and you said "Reloaded sucks because it wasn't simple like the first one." :P (Yeah, I realize you still would have thought Reloaded was cheesy and dumb even without the Matrix to judge it against)
Anyway, I get what you're saying, and it would have been REALLY REALLY COOL if they could have kept the koan-like minimalism and preserved the ambiguity of the first one, but i don't know if that was possible; at the least, it would have been rediculously hard to do that and still make the second one actually do anything besides retread the first movie. At the least, it isn't a reasonable expectation to have of filmmakers who are still pretty damn early on in their careers. (If you think the sex scene in Matrix Reloaded was Cheesy, just watch Bound. I mean, yeesh.)
However. The second movie went and "muddled all up" the point of the first movie becuase *the second movie had a different point than the first one*. Personally I prefer this to a movie that doesn't really bring anything new.
I can't really respond to the cheese thing. It was over the top, if you think that's a bad thing then that's your perogative or whatever. I think most of the "cheese" you just kind of have to understand why it was there. (Except for the 100 Smiths scene, that was totally gratuitous ^_^) I have this long rambling defense of why the ravesex scene was there, but I'm going to post it as a reply to this and i may not do it until later.
Anyway, my attempt to respond to your other points:
3. Yeah, i'll give you that. Though I actually found it kind of amusing the way the 100 agent smiths thing just went on and on. In a silly sort of way.
4. Almost all of the subplots were either conclusions of subplots from "The Animatrix", or were setting up subplots to be resolved in the third film. No subplots *really* occured in this film, only plot devices.
5. It didn't prove anything. That entire scene was just this elitist virtual french bastard being a dick and having fun in his own restaurant while totally blowing Neo and Morpheus off. Nothing in the restaurant had anything to do with the movie or anything else. It was just a wierd little arbitrary exploration of what exactly is the nature of the AI and "programs" living in the matrix, and it moved the plot along. And I for one thought the entire scene was absolutely hilarious, whether it was necessary or ont.
Also, the chocolate cake orgasm specifically made it absolutely clear what the bug and "red pill" did in the first movie: it wasn't a pill. It was a computer program that took the appearance of a pill within the matrix.
6. I don't agree, but that's a valid opinion.
7. The room wasn't real.
The room was simply a manifestation of whatever it was that the Architect wanted it to be, given the impact the Architect wanted to have on Neo. The Architect just happened to be a self-important and melodramatic entity. Thus the 100 screens.
8. You have a point here.
9. First, Neo hasn't quite figured out how to take advantage of his own powers.
Second, and most importantly, I think it's been very clearly established Neo isn't exactly the brightest person out there. Hence his tendency to react to just fight off the bad guys rather than trying to figure out how to manipulate the matrix to obliterate them utterly. No one other than Neo has crazy powers, except the Agents, and its been established the Agents are (1) limited because they won't circumvent the system (2) not fighting any *really* important battles.
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Also, if pop-culture epic stories are supposed to summarize some glaring aspect of society as it exists at that time, as they all do, then The Matrix is pointing out to future generations our focus on just asking "Why?"
Dante's The Divine Commedy encouraged not simply faith, but blind faith -- a quest for understanding God's righteousness without understanding God's justice. The Wachowskis' The Matrix, on the other hand, encourages faith in self alone -- a quest for only provable truth and a healthy, skeptical mind to question that which can not be objectively understood.
The societies of classic literature such as Dante's epic poem were built on solid foundations -- there is God's truth and no other; any violation earns damnation. Thus, The Matrix also highlights our growing secularism or even atheism.
I'm going around my ass to get to this, but the point is simple: morality is as subjective as belief in God. The Wachowskis probably like "teaching" people this version of toleration, as well as their version of responsibility: "I can only show you the door; you're the one who has to walk through it."
Anyway, sorry for rambling. I like this stuff.
Programs personified, it's been done, But never as well.
This movie achived everything it set out to accomplish and a few hundred million dollars more.
It took a real world war to end the airplane's patent wars. - Fâché Rouge -
if you convert the password of Z1ON0101 to decimal, you get Zion5..which could refer to the 5th version of Zion or the prior version, Zion 5.0, as implied by the Architect.
Neo 5.0 took the other door and reset the Matrix and created Zion 6.0 populated by people Neo 5.0's choosing (which might include Trinity). So, the initial inhabitants of Zion 6.0, taught by Neo 5.0, frees the minds of the people who question the reality of Matrix 6.0 thereby saving the programs (people/minds) from deletion by the agents.
The actions of Neo 5.0 can be attributed to Neo 5.0's want to save Zion 5.0's inhabitants from deletion. The saving of Zion 5.0 is deemed as a noble cause by the inhabitants of Zion for the reason of the survival of self.
Since Zion 6.0 faced imminent destruction and the password of Zion5 allows Neo 6.0 to meet the architect and possibly "save" Zion 6.0 and since the prior versions of the Matrix probably have the same event timelines (Oracle->Keymaster->Architect), a programming loop, if you will, it would seem to me that the actions of Zion 6.0 rebels would also be similar to prior versions of Zion rebels (this goes along with the thought that Zion is a Matrix and the inhabitants, Morpheus, Trinity, et al, are programs), that the password is a hint that it's all a loop and that the Zion rebels are in fact programs. I expect that Revolutions is where Neo becomes enlightened of the fact that the "real world" is not real at all.
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Any ideas who might be the happy hacker that led the Wachowski brothers in the right path?
Most likely some guy from their special effects company -- they have more than enough programmers there, and considering that they used mostly FreeBSD for the first movie, it's likely that a lot of Unix programmers worked on this one, too. It's even possible that directors just asked for a realistic-looking screen with some exploit, and whoever made it, chosen nmap and then-just-published ssh bug.
Contrary to the popular belief, there indeed is no God.
Everything from the first movie is a lie.
Neo is a program, not human.
Nobody ever left the matrix.
We no longer know what the matrix really is.
There's this 'architech' guy who really runs the whole show.
For all we know, the matrix is really just a video game. At the end of Revolutions we might see some kid pop a disk out of his computer and say "I'm bored of this game." That'd be funny.
OK, now imagine yourself some silly CG fight scenes. Oooohh.. Ahhhh.. OK, now save your $8.50 and donate it to the EFF instead of the MPAA. Isn't our *real world* technological freedom more important than some silly hollywood movie? Don't be hypocrites, folks. Don't support these guys.
And no, I didn't personally go see Reloaded.
The Matrix Reloaded: Accurate computing, Carre-Anne Moss almost nude.
Swordfish: Laughable computing, Halle Berry topless.
Winner and still champion: Swordfish
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Switching to Runlevel: 6
Lots of people "got it."
There are several theories going around, the most common being a failsafe matrix like Zion.
A friend of mine noticed that Agent Smith is like a replicating virus now, and when he enters Bane's "real world" mind, he is cutting his hands into bloody lines. When he is stopped from killing Neo, he shakes his hand. My friend theorized that somehow Neo got infected by that blood.
However inplausible, there is obviously a connection between Smith and Neo in this movie. Neo sensed him in the very beginning. Smith specifically mentions a connection. I believe that connection is the source of Neo's machine sense. Obviously, Revolutions will explain things.
"Sufferin' succotash."
Reloaded spent 95% of the time asking and answer precisely nothing. When Neo got to the Architect, suddenly there was an enormous amount to think about-- but it was dumped on you so quickly that you didn't have time to absorb it, or really mull the implications. Then you were running again, and then it was over.
The point is, anyone can come up with plot twists. Good moviemakers also have to keep you interested.
Was I the only person who noticed that the implication of the Architect's speech is that Neo is not The One... ...he's Number Six?
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In Zion, everyone wears old, worn out clothes... Even the council members have old clothes.... Everything is old and archaic... Yet, when Morpheus's ship (Nebu-whatever) is entering Zion, the woman operator is wearing a white modern cloth; she is also using a very fancy user-interface like we have seen in "Minority Report"...
My question is where did that scene come from? In that scene everything is fancy, not old and archaic as in other things in Zion.
Is it because the woman operator was connected through her cerebellum into a simulation program (not connected to Matrix, a local simulator) to get a better user-interface? And what we see there is her self-image in that simulator???
Heh, yeah I do - another realistic computer scene from Hollywood
uh... when was the last time a hot chick with super powers dropped a motorcycle on your server room?
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uh... when was the last time a hot chick with super powers dropped a motorcycle on your server room?
Oh, about a month ago. I was going to ask for her url, but didn't have the guts since I'm a geek.
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
Are you really saying that the two Matrix movies, the two LoTR movies, and Shawshank Redemption are the five best movies ever?
Perhaps you should watch the following, any of which are better than those five:
A Clockwork Orange
Apocalypse Now
The Manchurian Candidate
Citizen Kane
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
I'd personally add a bunch more (Taxi Driver, Lawrence of Arabia, Bridge On the River Kwai, Ben-Hur, Full Metal Jacket, Dr. Strangelove, Mulholland Drive, etc.) but I think that's enough for now.
10 PRINT CHR$(205.5+RND(1)); : GOTO 10
Okay, how about this one: The machines are actually in a prison of human creation (the "Outer-Matrix", where Zion is and the machines rule). But the machines know that they are captive and have crafted the "Inner Matrix" as a genetic-programming ecosystem to try to create a program that can hack the "Outer Matrix" to allow them to escape.
So, in essence, the "Inner Matrix: (the 1999 world in the movie) is there to breed "The One", who caries "the code" to hack the "Outer Matrix" so that the machines can escape.
??? Waddya think?
The reason that it can be true that 1+1 > 2 is that very peculiar nonzero value of the + operator