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Update on State "Communications Services" Laws
babbage_ct writes "As has been reported on Slashdot before (see here, here, and here for just a few) the MPAA is pushing so-called Super-DMCA laws in states around the country. Well, score one for the good guys. Oregon's version, SB 655 is going to die. Turns out the sponsor was scammed by MPAA lobbyist. See the e-mail from legislative staff below.
From: "Staff SenCharlesStarr"
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: Status of SB 655
Status of SB 655:
SB 655 is slated to die in committee this session. It is no longer an immediate threat, however, there will be a study commission appointed over the interim. Sen. Minnis decided that the issue was too complex to resolve this session. I will attempt to inform you when the commission is formed so that you can have further input. Oregon truly dodged the bullet on this. Some states passed the MPAA model legislation before the IT community even knew it existed.
The email you sent to Sen. Starr (and I hope all of the committee members) helped to stop this dangerous legislation. Good job! In case you're wondering why Sen. Starr sponsored this bill in the first place, it was requested by the MPAA lobbyist (who really is a nice guy) but Sen. Starr was told that it was a simple bill to update copyright law in relation to digital media. Yes, and a whole lot more! As the full impact of the bill became clear, Sen. Starr withdrew his support, which contributed to the bill's "unfortunate demise."
If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask.
Ken McDermott
Legislative Assistant
Senator Charles Starr
900 Court St NE S-312
Salem, OR 97301
staff.sencharlesstarr@state.or.us
drain my balls, hataz
clit FP
Not really.
Does anybody else around here like pussy? Hey, don't get me wrong, I like cock, too, just like you guys. But once in a while, isn't it nice to slide your tongue around in a wet, hairy, pussy, let the hot juices drip all over your face? Whoa, take it easy there, buddy! Like I said, I DO like cock! Hell, I LOVE it! I honestly do love cock... But once in a while, I just got to get my mug in some pussy, you know?
Not that I would ever stick my dick in some nasty gash. We all know that a man's dick belongs nowhere other than in another man's asshole.
I asked a geek "Do you have a girlfriend?". He responded with a very puzzled look. "A girlfriend?," he mused, "Who is the developer?". I chuckled and told him this was not an open source project. He then became slightly angry and told me "Are you trying to insult me? Only the best geeks use open source only!". I reassured him I was well aware of his integrity as a geek (white skin, clumsy, pants that are too short, lack of daily shower, etc), but a girlfriend is a female who to a male (most oftenly a male) has an intimate friendship. He gave me a very confused look. "I have never heard of such a thing.. this.. g-g-irlfriend?" He asked me, sounding very baffled. "I have heard of friends before, those pets other people have. But what is this thing you say.. Grill?". "Girl," I corrected. Then I asked him to sit down on a bench nearby so I could explain it too him, the poor, helpless thing. I told him that for human beings to reproduce, sexual intercourse must occur between a male and a female. "Perhaps you hear the trolls mention a thing called "pussy" on slashdot?". The geek burst into laughter, "Haha, you have been browsing at -1 lately, haven't you? You know that is just troll talk. Those silly trolls never have anything intelligent to say." My face turned serious. "My dear geek, are you not aware of the female population amongst you? Do you not stare in the street and want to hump a post when you pass by a hot, slim, gorgeous looking chick with a firm bust and well sculpted ass?". The geek immediately began to appear as if we was having a nervous breakdown. His glasses began to fog up and he took them off to wipe them with this linux embroidered shirt, "I think I know what you are talking about. Those things are icky. They have cooties. Get away from me!" I felt offended. "Nonsense, I pleaded! Pussy is a beautiful thing. A sacred thing." The geek would not listen and he began to cry. "STOP IT!! You are EVIL!!" He then skipped off. I walked back to my house quite sad. Why don't they listen to me I asked myself? When I got home my girlfriend opened the door. She was wearing short-shorts and a sports bra. She had been doing the thigh master for the past 30 minutes and was sweating. I could see her dark nipples underneath her slightly damp bra. Oh god I could fuck her to the moon and back. I could smell her horniness the second I took my shoes off. I chased her, both of us laughing, to our bedroom [THE FOLLOWING has been censored for the well-being of Geeks].... Six hours later, finally satisfied a little, I sat up and noticed that same Geek hiding in the trees. He had been watching us the entire time. I swear his penis had to have been the size of a fucking horse cock (not bad for a geek, i might add), and he appeared as if he had gone into a state of shock. I could see cum stains forming near the bulge of his pant zipper. I thought to myself. There is one geek, finally brought into the real world.
Wow, a governor with a brain. I'm moving to Colorado. Think they'll let me bring my guns?
"The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it." -- Ayn Rand
girls have cooties. i have a small dong.
nt.
Useless sig.
If we are honest, we must admit that almost every person reading Slashdot is involved in some form of piracy or IP theft. No we aren't on a street corner in the 'hood selling bootleg VHS. However most of us are involved in the illegal trading of songs and movies with "friends". Tougher laws are merely an admission of this reality. It is time to put and end to piracy NOW. This law is a good start.
It is official; Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dying
and I never thought this would happen. I didn't go fax crazy like some people here but you can bet your ass I will for now on. And here I am thinking one letter was enough. Mail Bomb People!
..which just shows that the human brain is ill-adapted for thinking and was probably designed for cooling the blood-T P
political figures lying to get what they want, not the other way around. I wonder how he feels.
Hopefully this will send a message to others to understand the situation before blindly following the suggestions of [insert company name here] lobbyists.
In C++, friends can touch each others private parts.
which contributed to the bill's "unfortunate demise."
What is so unfortunate about killing off a bunch of piopolists in one stroke? What, did they get Sen. Starr to finally RTFL for him to realise that it was not just an "update to copyright law for digital management?"
why for the life of me do States find it nessisary to enforce federal statues with their own laws?
oh yeah...coruption.
I am the Alpha and the Omega-3
There maybe really is some hope... We should thank all of the people who are constantly helping in this fight for freedom. They don't have money and power, like the pro-DMCA people do, but they are on the right side. Thank you! It is a good time to donate money to EFF, without which, we could already forget about on-line freedom.
Karma: Positive (probably because of superiour intellect)
First DMCA, then Super-DMCA? Soon we'll have Hyper-DMCA, Ultra-DMCA, Mega-DMCA, and eventually Mega-DMCAx2 which gives full ownership of our computers to the entertainment industry.
Thanks to all those who helped prevent this law
from happening.
however, this will most likely lead to more subversive tactics (like the mass IM'ing they pulled recently) by the MPAA and RIAA...what they don't seem to realize is that they don't have a chance technology-wise against those that wish to share files. Of course, if they pull anything as sneaky and underhanded as actually attempting to delete files from user's system, that will be their final mistake, because they will surely feel the wrath of the enraged consumer then.
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Police gave no details of the offence.
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I grew up there. Awesome place.
the MPAA lobbyist (who really is a nice guy) Yeah so is the car salesman that's got this sweet deal on a '76 Lincoln, driven by a little old lady on Sundays.
-- Some days you're the dog; some days you're the hydrant.
Fuck that, they won't let you in without them.
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
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Fact: Michael is redundant.
Trolling is a art,
> members) helped to stop this dangerous legislation. Good job!
Wow! I guess maybe one guy writing his congressman can make a difference! I'm glad that there are some sponsors of bills like this who don't supporting super-DMCA-type bills because they're eeeeeeeeevil, but because they simply don't recognize the consequences of their legislation and are willing to change when they realize what they're actually sponsoring. I'm also glad this senator apparently had a legislative aid with some sense to oppose the bill!
Now this is the story all about how
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and I'd like to take a minute just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel-Air
In West Philadelfia born and raised
on the playground where I spent most of my days
chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool
and all shooting some b-ball outside of the school
when a couple of guys said "we're up in no good"
started making trouble in my neighbourhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
and said "you're moving with your aunte and uncle in Bel-Air"
(Only the first three episodes of season one)
I begged and pleaded with her the other day
but she packed my suitcase and sent me on my way
she gave me a kissin' and she gave me my ticket
I put my walkman on and said I might aswell kick it
First class, yo this is bad,
drinking orange juice out of a champagne glass
is this what the people of Bel-Air livin' like,
hmm this might be alright!
I whistled for a cab and when it came near the
licensplate said "Fresh" and had a dice in the mirror
if anything I could say that this cab was rare
but I thought now forget it, yo home to Bel-Air
I pulled up to a house about seven or eight
and I yelled to the cabby "Yo, home smell you later"
looked at my kingdom I was finally there
to settle my throne as the prince of Bel-Air
It's good to see this type of a positive response. Hopefully there will be more in the future.
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The lobbyists WILL be back next year, and the year after, and they'll keep telling bigger lies, and offering bigger bribes, until either they get their way, or the industries which fund them shrivel up. Or, perhaps, until we make such a big noise that the politicians decide that this is an untouchable issue.
Remember: the lobbyists only have to win ONCE in each state. We only have to get careless or complacent ONCE to let them win. This was good news, but the battle isn't nearly over yet.
We need to keep educating the unwashed masses, need to keep letter-writing campaigns going, and generally need to keep following up. We also need to volunteer in the re-election campaigns of the clueful few who are on the right side here. And tell other candidates why we chose to volunteer for Mr. Clueful instead of Mr. Other.
Those bribes from the lobbyists are only valuable to the legislators if they believe that the bribe can buy more votes than the legislation will cost them. When a lobbyist walks into a legislator's office and says: ``I'd like to talk to you about strengthening copyright ...'', the legislator needs to be able to point to a pile of letters on his desk and say: `` These letters are from voters who are on the other side, and I get a big stack like that every day. I'd like to help, but I can't afford to. Why, I'd loose half my campaign workers if I even listened to you!''
See what I've been reading.
Most of these bills contain provisions disallowing the hiding of the source or destination of a communication. This would make using freenet to break the Great Firewall of China(TM) illegal. Make sure to bring this up if/when this kind of bill gets considered in your state.
politics effect your life, now and in the future.
To not get involved is akin to not monitoring your servers and hoping all will always be fine. Then when it isn't fine, you just complain.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
Now if they public could only realize why they would benefit from undoing the last several copyright extensions as well.
And that legislative assistant may have called the MPAA lobbiest a nice guy, but I don't agree. He obviously lied about the bill to get it introduced. I'd never let that guy in my office again!
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
that it will someday be the EX-DCMA.
Well, I infinity DMCA you. So there.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
Gov Owens has banked his popularity on the Colorado economy which is heavily dependant on the 'New' economy of IT,internet, prog etc. Owens has touted that he is resonsible for making Colorado a prominent player in this economy. Very much so in the last election.
Well the economy sucks here, many people have been laid off, no new jobs, just like most places. He had to do this or he'd be out of a job too.
Next topic plz k thx
Did he not read the bill before he supported it? WTF! He shouldn't be re-elected.
It is official; Netcraft now confirms: Michael is redundant.
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Slashdot community when Slashdot confirmed that interest in stories by Michael has dropped yet again, now down to unmeasurable levels.
Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that stories by Michael have garnered more pointless trolls, including this post, than all other editors combined. This news serves to reinforce what we've known all along: Michael is grasping at straws when posting articles. This was fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in recent polls as to Most Popular Editor.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict Michael's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Michael faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Michael because Michael is dying. Things are looking very bad for Michael His office is dark, the tomb-like sepulchral atmosphere is all that remains. Michael continues to lose reader interest. Goatse.cx trolls abound, their red hue colouring monitors like a river of blood.
Michael's other project, the Censorware Project once a glowing bastion of free speech now features a personal attack on its main page. The Censorware Project is dead, all that remains to be done is to have its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house. All major surveys show that Michael has turned Slashdot into a laughing stock when makes juvenile, biased comments. Michael long term survival prospects are very dim. If Michael's job at Slashdot is to survive at all, he wil be read by nothing more than granola-crunching leftists and dilettante First Ammendment dabblers and hangers-on. Michael's arrogance continues to grow as Slashdot decays for it. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Michael is irrelevant.
Fact: Michael is redundant.
Well now Owen's has done one thing right and just about everything else wrong. Maybe now he'll fix the slashing and burning he's done to education. The schools here are dismal, I think they're about 48th in the nation. And his recent gouging of the state universities is atrocious.
It is official; Netcraft now confirms: Michael is redundant.
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Slashdot community when Netcraft confirmed that interest in stories by Michael has dropped yet again, now down to unmeasurable levels.
Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that stories by Michael have garnered more pointless trolls, including this post, than all other editors combined. This news serves to reinforce what we've known all along: Michael is grasping at straws when posting articles. This was fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in recent polls as to Most Popular Editor.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict Michael's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Michael faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Michael because Michael is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Things are looking very bad for Michael. His office is dark, the tomb-like sepulchral atmosphere is all that remains. Michael continues to lose reader interest. Goatse.cx trolls abound, their red hue colouring monitors like a river of blood.
Michael's other project, the Censorware Project, once a glowing bastion of free speech now features a personal attack on its main page. The Censorware Project is dead, all that remains to be done is to have its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house. All major surveys show that Michael has turned Slashdot into a laughing stock when he makes juvenile, biased comments. Michael's long term survival prospects are very dim. If Michael's job at Slashdot is to survive at all, he wil be read by nothing more than granola-crunching leftists and dilettante First Ammendment dabblers and hangers-on. Michael's arrogance continues to grow as Slashdot decays for it. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Michael is irrelevant.
Fact: Michael is redundant.
As bills like this are sponcered by our publicly elected officals - I can't help but think that "we the people" do not have any input as to what is acutally happening with the whole DRM/MPAA/RIAA non-sense.
The majority of Americans who's stock and trade crosses paths with the DMCA appear to be strongly against it - yet corporations still wine/dine/donate to these politations that we apparently elected to push such pro-police state laws.
Would it be fair to say that are elected officals only agenda is to do whatever the mega-corporation of the week has to say should be law?
Are there actually elected officals who are are looking out for the common person's liberties, and such? If so, why are there not more of them?
The people have spoken, we do not want a revamped DMCA - as we didn't even want the original DMCA... Yet the original DMCA passed??? That doesn't sound very democratic to me.
A return to Classic DMCA for the old timers.
"We make our world significant by the courage of our questions and by the depth of our answers." Carl Sagan
teh turth definatly.
This was new news when I submitted it a few days ago, along with a pointer to a Rocky Mountain News editorial that may have contributed. It's old now. ;)
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It is official; Netcraft now confirms: Michael is redundant.
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Slashdot community when Netcraft confirmed that interest in stories by Michael has dropped yet again, now down to unmeasurable levels.
Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that stories by Michael have garnered more pointless trolls, including this post, than all other editors combined. This news serves to reinforce what we've known all along: Michael is grasping at straws when posting articles. This was fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in recent polls as to Most Popular Editor.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict Michael's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Michael faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Michael because Michael is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Things are looking very bad for Michael. His office is dark, the tomb-like sepulchral atmosphere is all that remains. Michael continues to lose reader interest. Goatse.cx trolls abound, their red hue colouring monitors like a river of blood.
Michael's other project, the Censorware Project, once a glowing bastion of free speech now features a personal attack on its main page. The Censorware Project is dead, all that remains to be done is to have its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house. All major surveys show that Michael has turned Slashdot into a laughing stock when he makes juvenile, biased comments. Michael's long term survival prospects are very dim. If Michael's job at Slashdot is to survive at all, he wil be read by nothing more than granola-crunching leftists and dilettante First Amendment dabblers and hangers-on. Michael's arrogance continues to grow as Slashdot decays for it. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Michael is irrelevant.
Fact: Michael is redundant.
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The real story here seems to be that VETO power had to be used. The story doesn't say a lot, but that implies that the government there came very close to passing this. While the governor may be a good guy it still doesn't say a lot for the state.
What would it take to start going on the offensive instead of the defensive, here? Can't special interests groups like the EFF lobby for the creation of laws protecting our rights to fair use, backups, reverse engineering, etc. so that *we* only have to win once?
I do understand we can't compete monetarily, but letting the general public know and understand these issues (instead of preaching to the choir and only publishing these types of things on a site dedicated to "news for nerds") could offset the problem. After all, I guess the only thing that can compete with campaign contributions is the actual swaying of public opinions at times of elections and, due to MPAA/RIAA/Blah propaganda, we are the minority.
I do understand that I'm probably being really naive here, not being a guy that keeps up with/understands politics well. Maybe someone who does can explain the problem and make a few useful suggestions to overcome it.
Warning: Opinions known to be heavily biased.
You post something totally content-free in a vain attempt at a FP, and then you complain about being moderated?
Fuck you, pal.
"I don't think this is interesting" is not at all useful to the rest of slashdot's readers. Guess what, bub? We don't fucking care!
Fuck you very much.
They like monkey-business as much as the next politician, generally speaking, but at least they regard the individual consitituent as something powerful enough to listen to...
Together, we will drive the rats from the tundra.
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The take-home was that just typing up a short opinion and mailing it to your rep's office has a tremendous effect on the political process.
Our intelligent designer has never created an animal that we couldn't improve by strapping a bomb to it.
As soon as I read the Legislative Assistant's e-mail, I sent a message to Senator Charles Starr thanking him for supporting citizen's rights over corporate interests. I also encouraged him to maintain that stance and to urge his colleagues to do likewise in the future.
Fellow Oregonians can follow my lead at the state legislature's home page. I've realized that I should have had that link bookmarked for years.
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Name your favorite Troll(er) (ie post, user)
from parent: who said a flag was going to replace your freedom?
That's his SIG.
A man who can't pronouce "nuclear arsenal" shouldn't have one -sig ends here.
....and that is why you will never be any good in politics. Keep your day job (and I suspect you want to!) :-)
Why not? He has been doing it to the majority of the taxpayers here.
Someone who spells "stupid" with zeros? What the fuck is that? Are you some kind of leet Flavor Flav now?
Do us all a favor and choke on your mom's cock.
So when a Rep. Governor stops a super-DMCA bill from a Dem. controlled state congress there is not a single mention of anyone's political affiliation, but when a Rep. Gov signs one of these bills into law, we hear about how the Rep.'s are evil and we need the Dems to save us.
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Double Dipping - A poster getting +5 mods for a post AND a reply to his own post. Usually due to self-correction, addition of extra information, or clueless moderation to the parent post. Interestingly, it appears to happen more often to sincere posters than trolls.
Politicians live by focus groups, so send this guy some email and maybe a few others will do the right thing. It sure as hell can't hurt.
.sig is gonna look REAL funny on this one.
Email Gov. Owens!
Heh. My
ad logicam Claiming a proposition is false because it was presented as the conclusion of a fallacious argument.
I have the right to make any fucking comment I want, sack-muncher.
Bill Owens is the man. Hopefully Tom Craddick and all the other yellow-bellied Texas democrats (the ones who recently hid out in Oklahoma because they were going to lose a vote on redistricting) and naive sponsoring republicans will get a clue and realize that if Bill Owens will veto this bill, so will Rick Perry.
Don't become a regular here, you will become retarded. -- Yoda the Retard
It's a joke, you turd. J-O-K-E. Kind of like how, though I'm from Kentucky, I don't actually fuck my sister. See, it doesn't have to be true to be funny! Now your sister, on the other hand...let's just say I'm glad she doesn't look anything like you or I'd have to employ a well-placed paper bag.
And you seem to know less about your home state than I do! As quoted from someone else who responded to your stupidity,
About the only liberal tree hugging area of the state is Boulder, the rest of CO is staunchly conservative which would be obvoius to anywone willing to look at the voting records in CO for the last 10 years. So I am going to have to assume that either you haven't been to the state in years or that you are just trolling.
Dumbass.
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
Let us suppose that for some unforeseeable reason, the average IQ in the the US is boosted by 9 points due to some secret added ingredient to everyone's favorite breakfast food (whatever the poll proves that to be) and not only are all the current Ultra/Super/etc DMCAs killed off, but even the DMCA itself is ruled unconstitutional...
Would the handful of students recently slapped with outrageous fines under said act for distributing music be lawfully permitted to seek retribution for what will likely be a grievous blemish on their CVs? And if so, what compensation can be sought for what equates to McCarthyesque blacklisting?
Dear Mr. Kirksey:
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Thank you for weighing in on SB 213. I began studying it over the weekend
and have also referred to information available from the Electronic Frontier
Foundation. I must admit that this is an area with which I have little
familiarity, but the legislation could be problematic for the reasons you
address. I appreciate your taking the time to assist by bringing this to my
attention.
Please stay in touch.
Sincerely,
Mark Norris
Senator
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Kirksey
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:04 PM
To: sen.mark.norris@legislature.state.tn.us
Subject: SB 213
Sir,
As one of you constituates, I wish to state my opposition to Tennessee
Senate Bill 213. The bill has some valid points, but the flaws outweigh the
possible good.
The bill is too broad and gives too much power to communications providers.
If taken to extremes, VCRs, network routers and other useful (you could say
essential) devices could be outlawed.
As an attorney, please take a few minutes to read through the bill and
imagine possible scenarios where the bill could be abused.
Thank you for your time.
Thomas Kirksey
and later:
http://www.tennessean.com/government/archives/0
Senator Norris wanted you to see today's coverage of yesterday's Senate Judiciary Committee's hearing. Thanks, in part, to your input, he had more questions to ask the sponsor than they could answer, and the bill will be taken up again in two weeks. Senator Norris shares concerns about the extent to which this proposal may infringe upon certain fundamental rights, including Due Process and Free Speech, and he will continue to work on it. He thanks you for your input and support.
says: "Now wait a minute! I don't vote for any bill unless I've read it or somebody gives me the gist of it!"
Lobbyist: "Oooh, I can do that.... [insert feel-good explanation of bill here]"
I would think that deliberately misleading a legislator about the purpose of proposed legislation would disqualify a person from real niceness. Just my fringe opinion, I guess.
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This isn't about little people making a living. This is about outrageously rich and powerful people defending their ability to become even more so. This is about blow jobs in the back of limousines, private jets to villas in the south of France, 150-foot yachts, buying "the necessities of life" on Rodeo Drive, and actually being in a position to benefit from Dubya's tax cut. The poor wretches! My heart bleeds!
I can move back to Colorado now without being arrested for running a firewall! I think I'll do that soon, actually...
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What about Oregon's new Senate Bill 742? Proposed by republican senator John Minnis, it says that whoever participates in or conspires to participate in any type of activity which disrupts commerce (or which at least one person involved intends to use to disrupt commerce, regardless of if they tell the others) faces a mandatory life sentence without paroll.
The idea of it is, that if you say you're going to go to a peace march, they can arrest you, because many peace marches disrupt commerce, and if found guilty of saying you're going to go to a peace march, they'll throw you in prison for life without giving the judge a chance to reduce the sentence. And I have not exaggerated a word of this.
Of course it advertises itself as an anti-terrorism bill, and our legistlators have a history of saying "aye" whenever a bill comes along that has a good sounding summary and was proposed by someone of their own party. And peace marchers are usually democrats, trouble makers in their eyes.
They might say that they're only going to use it against real terrorists, but if that's true they should put it in writing, rather than passing an "everyone is guilty of crimes punishable by death" law.
Just the fact that one of our legislators would propose something like that deeply offends all of us. And black people from California still can't get more than 30 miles past the border without getting pulled over, but that's another story. I'm voting democrat in the next state election if they decide to let me have a ballot this time.
The only reason why she didn't already have one is that they just became available.
Doesn't seem like a state that's rabidly afraid of guns to me.
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Obviously you never met any of its residents while you were there. Probably too busy fucking moose. We need a new moderation for you too. -1, Stupid cumsucking piece of shit. Hell, while we're at it, let's make it a -2 right off.
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
For the most part, consumers don't and should not have a problem with legitimate enforcement of copyrights -- even where they shut down or financially ruin the infringer who might be "just like you and me." Whether or not we may buy into the "infringement as theft" analogy, we understand what is the law, and why it is the law. When someone gets nipped for actually infringing, well, someone got nipped.
It is only in the arena of legislative and judicial overreaching where harm is done to society, where technology advances are retarded, and where the content owners unreasonably attempt to extend their monopoly on distribution of expression into a monopoly on markets in which they have no legitimate interest.
You want to talk about a lack of creativity, let's look at your last missive. "I know a lot about about Colorado - I lived there for many years. I think we need a new moderation category, -1 Ignorant, for posters like you."
Wow. That's just amazing. I'm speechless. "-1, Ignorant, for posters like you." I just hope you didn't spend any time coming up with that drivel. You need someone to write jokes for you like Letterman has.
Is it a problem to have such a limited vocabulary and imagination, or are you even aware of it?
Is that your expert opinion Dr. Wechsler? For what it's worth, you always know you've won a batle of wits when someone insults your intelligence. Thanks for conceding defeat.
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
How pathetic. See, your problem is you're too uptight to see that vulgarity is a verbal tool, just like any other. Considering how stilted you are, and your reaction to my littany, I was fully correct and justified. I must say, it has been fun seeing your little brain spin so slowly to come up with dignified, yet, ironically, completely trite responses. Thank you for yet another entertaining insight into the mind of the self-righteous, believing your intellect to be above that of the commoner because you use more appropriate words. Despite that, your verbiage is even more dull and predictable than mine. Isn't that sad?
I bet you're also one of those people who wear your perceived intellect, meager though it is, as some sort of sick badge of honor. I only mention that because as soon as someone confuses you with insults and you find yourself devoid of any creative return, you bring up your intelligence. I bet you've even applied to Mensa - though I suspect you didn't get in the first time at least, did you?
Also, considering your predictability, I very much doubt you've ever won a battle of wits, let alone enough of them to derive a statistical distribution as to the causes of said victory. Perhaps you should try a preschool?
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
As I write, the Texas house may be passing the Texas version of the sDMCA (SB1116). Amidst some Memorial-day "Freedom" speeches, perhaps.
After pasing Senate earlier this month, it passed out of House Regulated Industries committee 5/22 (no ammendments), and is on the House floor calendar.
EFF-Austin has been organizing visits at the capitol.
Apparently SBC (local "Baby Bell" telephone/DSL monopoly) has also been flexing its mighty arms in support of the bill.
More info here.
~ Ms.G {at} NoitacudE [dot]com "Turn it around..."
I don't have to rationalize anything, as I've got no issues with my conscience. And actually you were the first to start insults - I only started the vulgarity. So your only problem is you have issues with vulgarity. Was someone potty trained too harshly? Oh, and as for not knowing any educated people who result to vulgarity - you do now. Try to raltionalize that with your schemas of intelligent people behaving "properly" as defined by others, going through life with a permanantly placed pole up their ass. And yes, that was just for you.
I never brought up my intelligence as a subject, just yours.
Well, it has to be relative or you have no point. And you really know nothing of my intelligence. I'll assure you, the conclusions you tend to draw are dead wrong. I am crass (or can be when it's fun to pull strings on people like you), but correlating crudeness with stupidity will be a rather large mistake.
And I never applied for membership in Mensa. Organizations like that are for insecure people who need crutches, like you.
Well, we have something in common, at least. I can't stand the MENSA people, and I'm surprised you aren't among them. You'd fit in so well, with the self-superior attitude and comparing your intelligence to anyone who upsets you. You really should apply, assuming you meet their standards.
So why do you use intelligence as a weapon, bringing that up as the only comeback you have at your disposal? Quite frankly, you're no different than someone who whips out his member to prove he's more of a man when threatened, lacking the cleverness to do anything else. Your hangups with "vulgarity" and belittling others for their "garbage spewing" is a crutch of your own - does it make you feel better? I need no crutch - I'm rather happy with myself and my intelligence, but I don't need to go around throwing it on people. I didn't go through correcting posts that were clearly JOKES - you did. Does that get you off, correcting errors like that? Do you correct grammar on slashdot too? I'd suggest you grow a sense of humor, but I know there's no chance of success there.
BTW, welcome to my freaks list. You're in good company -- smut peddlers and such. Enjoy. :)
God, I'm crushed. When you see my suicide on the 6 o'clock news, you'll know you're responsible. It must amaze you that your opinion of me means absolutely nothing - is that new for you, people not listening to your authority? Does it bother you? Hell, I'm just having fun - I'm amazed you've continued to respond this long.
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
I'm sure that those outrageously rich and powerful people would characterize it as their livelihood.
Don't forget about the employees of those outrageously rich and powerful people, who will probably lose their jobs, and their livelihoods, when (I'm being optimistic here) we manage to consign the **AA to the graveyard of history. They aren't sending letters to congresscritters on their employer's behalf because they're rich and getting richer, they're doing it because they don't want to end up on unemployment.
The lawyers and lobbyists who are working for the **AA aren't doing because they're defending ``... blow jobs in the back of limousines, private jets to villas in the south of France, 150-foot yachts, buying "the necessities of life" on Rodeo Drive ...'', they're doing it because they've got families and car payments and mortgages to support. The car payments and mortagages might be bigger than ours, but that still puts them in the same class with you and me, class warrior.
The people you're talking about are a few people in top corporate management. They will keep their millions, regardless of the outcome of the us versus them struggle. They're trying to destroy our free society and put an end to social and technological progress not (entirely) because it will make them richer (though it probably will), but because it is what they think they were hired to do. And because it's a challenge. And because they can rationalize just as well as anyone else: they've said they're right so often, they believe it.
They voted in favor of that religious right-trash Amendment 2.