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Buy Your Own Aircraft Carrier

Vodalian writes "Distinction as the last surviving Aircraft Carrier built in England for WW II and commissioned as the HMS Vengeance in late 1944, this unique vessel served the British then the Australian Navy as HMAS Vengeance prior to her sale to Brazil In 1956. Undergoing reconstruction and overhaul in Rotterdam from 1957 to 1960 she was commissioned as the Minas Gerais in December of that year. During her service with the Brazilian Navy she was overhauled from 1976 to 1980 completing a 5-year refit in 1981. She was decommissioned on the 16th of October 2001 and is currently for sale."

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  1. Build your own aircraft carrier... by TheMidget · · Score: 4, Funny
    ... and whack those crazy Merkins and their DMCA laws with it! We want a free Europe!!!!

    Frist Psot?

    1. Re:Build your own aircraft carrier... by BriSTO(V)L · · Score: 2, Funny

      The rumour that this CV has already been secretly bought by the RIAA for an unspecified "future project" is probably no more than that: an unsubstantiated rumour... ("...Tomorrow the World!!!")

    2. Re:Build your own aircraft carrier... by wowbagger · · Score: 2, Troll

      A free Europe.

      With cameras on every corner.

      With ID cards for every serf^H^H^H^Hcitizen.

      With manditory key escrow.

      Hmmmm. This must be some new, European definition of "free" that hasn't yet spread to the US.

    3. Re:Build your own aircraft carrier... by 73939133 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The US has ID cards, too: social security and drivers licenses. No modern society can function without them. In contrast to the US, Europeans have worked out strong privacy laws and carefully designed ID cards to address privacy concerns. The net effect is that privacy protections in Europe are stronger than in the US because Europeans are actually tackling issues of privacy, while Americans just stick their heads in the sand and pretend that the problem doesn't exist.

      Similar comments apply to cameras. As for key escrow, I'm not aware of any Europe-wide adoption of key escrow policies. Can you point to any?

  2. build or buy ? by Spacelord · · Score: 5, Funny

    For a second I thought it said *build* your own aircraft carrier .... now that would have been a feat :)

    1. Re:build or buy ? by NineBall · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, considering some of the other stories on slashdot, you never know.

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    2. Re:build or buy ? by meringuoid · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Seriously, if you're a minor country 'build or buy' is a serious issue. Building a carrier is bloody expensive, but if you do so you give at least one of your port cities a major employment boost and at the end of it you get a shiny modern carrier. Buying someone else's cast-offs is far cheaper, but you'll have to accept that it's a fixer-upper and pay for refits and awful maintenance bills.

      The original owner of this carrier is currently starting work on two really _big_ carriers as part of a scheme to switch from a military geared to fight World War 3 on the Rhine to a highly mobile force capable of dropping in on people at short notice and spoiling their day. Consequently, three Falklands-vintage carriers will soon be on the market for any dictator on good enough terms with London... So if anyone's planning to buy this carrier, do remember that in a couple of years your neighbour could be planning to buy a whole fleet ;-)

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    3. Re:build or buy ? by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Building a carrier is bloody expensive,"

      Putting planes on it is even more expensive. Especially when you're talking about a flight deck dating from WWII. Unless you're planning to go back to piston-driven aircraft, this ship will more or less require either a major overhaul or a plane specifically built for it. Add in the cost for a shipload of AV8Bs and suddenly the price triples (at the very least).

      "Consequently, three Falklands-vintage carriers will soon be on the market for any dictator on good enough terms with London..."

      It's probably cheaper to buy Falklands-vintage Exocets.

  3. Hmmm by PS-SCUD · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's just a guess, but I think you'd need something bigger than a creek to sail that in!

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  4. Put that baby on eBay !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    No reserve, I'll give em' $50 bucks. Buyer pays shipping

    1. Re:Put that baby on eBay !!! by f97tosc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, this has precedence. A Swedish fighter jet of type Draken was sold on ebay.

      The problem is that for these types of items the sticker price is usually only a small part of the cost of actually owning and maintaining one.

      Tor

  5. Bring idea! by chrisgeleven · · Score: 4, Funny

    Corporations this is your chance to become a world power by buying your very own aircraft carrier! Of course you have to fund the personnel to run the carrier and then get some fighter jets but imagine the countries you can frighten into accepting your tyrannical contracts!

    1. Re:Bring idea! by AlecC · · Score: 2, Interesting

      See John Brunner's "Stand on Zanzibar" - an excellent book - in which something like this happened. A megacorp bought an aircraft carrier to use as a base for their take ove of "Beninia" - probably Gambia.

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    2. Re:Bring idea! by AlecC · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd say "yes" - but it wouldn't do them that much good. National sovereignty is tolerated only if it doesn't cause problems to the Big Boys. The drugs people tried it with sundry Carribean givernments, and it became clear that it would not be tolerated. If a corp tries, via a foreign country, to upset the US national interests, the US would "fix" that country. Just ask Saddam Hussein.

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  6. reservations... by inkedmn · · Score: 2, Funny

    i can't even imagine what a nightmare it'd be getting that thing wired for cable...

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  7. Snowcrash by kiltedtaco · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sounds like something right out of Snowcrash.

    1. Re:Snowcrash by jagilbertvt · · Score: 3, Funny

      I was thinking the same thing. People, please contribute to my paypal donation fund, as I really want to buy this thing! You'll be more than welcome to join me on her when we rechristen it Enterprise and start a floating city in the Pacific.

  8. Perfect! by Judg3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This goes along with my plans.
    1. Change name ti L. Bob Rife
    2. Create cable TV monopoly
    3. Start own religion
    4. Work on meta-virus
    5. Buy aircraft carrier
    6. Get residents of 3rd world country to do my bidding!

    Sweet!

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    1. Re:Perfect! by bolind · · Score: 4, Informative

      This goes along with my plans.
      1. Change name ti L. Bob Rife
      2. Create cable TV monopoly
      3. Start own religion
      4. Work on meta-virus
      5. Buy aircraft carrier
      6. Get residents of 3rd world country to do my bidding!


      To the people not getting the above reference, go read Neal Stephenson's "Snow Crash", in were a decommissioned aircraft carrier is the center of "The Raft", a shitload of floating things, well, floating around, with "refus" (refugees), waiting to get close enough to North America to get ashore to start a new life.

    2. Re:Perfect! by powerlinekid · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm pretty sure that was covered by step 2 ;).

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    3. Re:Perfect! by unborracho · · Score: 2, Funny

      7. ???
      8. Profit!

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  9. Hell of a dance floor by jhines · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Great place to throw a party, cruise outside the reach of the law in internatinal waters.

    Hope the weather is good tho.

    1. Re:Hell of a dance floor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      See that ship over there? They're re-broadcasting Major League Baseball with implied oral consent, not express written consent -- or so the legend goes.

    2. Re:Hell of a dance floor by T-Ranger · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Aircraft carriers, when they dont have the air wing aboard, have next to no offensive weponry. Which is why both naval aviatiors have a shoot first and ask questions later policy on unfriendlys who stray within 200mi of there boat, and why carries have upwards of a dozen ships in there screening force.

    3. Re:Hell of a dance floor by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Informative
      New Amsterdam was a decent port of convenience once, but these days it's a sprawling megalopolis. I doubt you'd find haven from the laws of the USA there.

      Most people tend to pick somewhere like Panama for their flags of convenience. Liberia's popular too, as are a variety of island states.

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  10. Slow day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    This article is proof that Saturday is always slow at the Slashdot office

  11. Bass Boat by laosland · · Score: 2, Funny

    This would make one hell of a bass boat... Think of the size of the trolling motor you'd need.

  12. Nice Price by jspoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    $4.5 million sounds like a steal. It probably costs more than that to keep it in port for a year, let alone what it would actually cost to operate.

    1. Re:Nice Price by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Which is why she's so cheap, of course. Massive operating costs make her a tough sell; there's probably nobody out there who will regard her as being worth the price it will take to run her. She's being sold for her scrap value, sad to say. Whoever buys her will undoubtedly break her up and sell the pieces.

      Chris Mattern

    2. Re:Nice Price by Ed+Avis · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I hear that Sealand makes a profit... would it be possible to stick an aircraft carrier in the middle of the ocean and stick web servers on it? Perhaps the jurisdictional issues would be more complex than with Sealand.

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    3. Re:Nice Price by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 2, Funny

      My brother-in-law was looking for a new fishing boat. I figure I'll tell him about it. He'd have room for lots of salmon on this baby.

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    4. Re:Nice Price by crawling_chaos · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Under maritime law, ships must be registered in a country and therefore subject to its laws. You can't sail a ship in to the middle of the ocean and declare the ship to be a country.

      Not to mention that it's going to have to have periodic dockings for maintenance and to take on supplies. Sorry, it just won't work.

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  13. offtopic, i know... by xao+gypsie · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...but man, she gets around more than my ex-girlfriend...

    xao

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    1. Re:offtopic, i know... by fobbman · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...and carries about as much seamen...

      Sorry dude, she was my ex-girlfriend, too.

  14. It's already set up for soccer by Chairboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    According to an article I read, while the flight deck elevator (that brings planes up to the top from the hangar) works, the actual hangar deck has been converted to a soccer arena.

    1. Re:It's already set up for soccer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not entirelly true. Ive been inside this ship some time ago (about 4 years) whem my father still worked in the Brazillian Navy. The aircrafts that operated in this ship wherent from the Brazillian Navy, but from the Brazillian Air Force, so when it arrived for his port (the Navy base in Rio de Janeiro) the aircrafts went for his own base. The big space inside the ship was then converted in one soccer arena and one volley arena :)

      Daniel Mendes

  15. Big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My uncle bought an old Russian diesel sub. in 1996 for 150k he turned it into a floating restaurant on the Mississipi river.

  16. I'm in! by fadeaway · · Score: 5, Funny

    If 15,000 of us put in $300, we could get this baby.

    Oh, the LAN parties we could have on the SS /.!

    1. Re:I'm in! by aardwolf204 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Have you ever been to a LAN party? Every time I go to one of these "massive lanning events" (200+ gamers) I'm stuck next to leety mc'leet's clan of anti-deoderant counter-strikers. Now throw 15,000 of these guys in a boat and add some sea sickness and you've got a biohazard.

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    2. Re:I'm in! by GnomeAttic · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ok, new plan! We host an "ULTR4 1337 LAN party" on the boat, and when all the anti-deoderant counter-strikers are locked away on the boat, we sail them right off the edge of the earth. For a mere 4.5 mil, we can bring FPSs back to the commoners.

    3. Re:I'm in! by Jeffv323 · · Score: 2, Informative

      THe earth iss round..

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    4. Re:I'm in! by znode · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now throw 15,000 of these guys in a boat and add some sea sickness and you've got a biohazard. Is that a weapon of mass destruction?

  17. Come on, Slashdot! by Winterblink · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Lets put together a trust fund to buy this thing in the name of nerd news and matter-ful stuff. With the sizable readership of this site we could probably drop in a few bucks a piece to purchase it. :)

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  18. Minas Gerais by lgordon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh well. I thought they were selling something cool, like Minas Tirith or Minas Morgul.

  19. that's cheap by luzrek · · Score: 4, Interesting
    And for only 4.5 million USD. If only I had that much.

    Seriously, that thing would make one hell of a house. You could just more it up to a dock. Barge on the Seine my butt. I want an aircraft carrier in New York Harbor.

    On second thought that would make one hell of a target for terrorists. Better put it somewhere in New Jersey.

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  20. $4.5 million USD! by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So a complement of 1.300, each paying $400 a month rent...

    That's easily a half million rent a month! So living aboard, for a year, would generate $6 million, which covers the cost of upkeep and purchase in 2 years, and profitable in 3!

    1. Re:$4.5 million USD! by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

      And anyone who slacks on the rent gets shot off the catapult

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    2. Re:$4.5 million USD! by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Thankfully new UK carriers don't have catapults, we switched to the ski jump style a while back which is much friendlier for the airframe and allows a greater take off weight, especially when coupled with BAE Harriers (or indeed a JSF).

      Of course at one point we were even thinking of doing away with flight decks on carriers - there was an experimental sky hook system to catch a flying Harrier on a smaller ship. Thankfully abandoned due to sanity returning and the drugs wearing off :o)

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    3. Re:$4.5 million USD! by Tumbleweed · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, no, you make 'em walk the plank!

      Or you keel-haul 'em. *ouch*

      "Scrub the poop-deck? Where's that at - is it near the Lido deck?"

    4. Re:$4.5 million USD! by The+Mayor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is exactly why British aircraft carriers are completely ineffective. By going for a smaller (and cheaper) aircraft carrier, they have reduced the number of aircraft from around 90 to around 40. Recent conflicts have shown that it takes about 30-40 aircraft simply to provide adequate air support for one aircraft carrier. The result? You can provide air cover for your fleet, but you can't project air power. The aircraft carriers dispatched to the Falklands were never fully engaged in combat, and their air cover was even suspect (that, and a bug in their defence software didn't recognize the Argentinian Exocets as enemy targets).

      Trust me, smaller aircraft carriers result in wasted money. The only country able to project significant air power from a mobile platform is the US, and this is only because they spend so f'ing much on each carrier.

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  21. Someone call Larry Ellison! by Spacelord · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone call Larry Ellison! Would make a great addition to his MiG fighter jet.

  22. weapon of mass destruction by koi88 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe George W. should buy it and write "Saddamz aircraft carria" on it. That should convince the few unpatriotic people who still doubt the justification for attacking Iraq.

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  23. Status! by davidc · · Score: 2, Funny
    Remember, once you got an aircraft carrier, you really somebody, you got status ! People will no longer think you are a pickled herring salesman, nossir!

    (Showing my age, with apologies to de voice of John Bird, played by de honorable Idi Amin Esq.)

  24. Apparently by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny

    De-Commissioned November 2001, Sold to Private concerns 2002, Sale did not complete.

    Bin Laden gets sea sick

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  25. Linux? by gspr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does she run Linux?

    1. Re:Linux? by Penguuu · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, SCO bought it to enforce their copyrights, but Linux users run when they see it :)

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  26. Cool, but... by Scalli0n · · Score: 4, Funny

    As always, I must present the downside:

    1. Do you know how to drive an aircraft carrier? I don't think it has merely a gas/brake/steering wheel.
    2. Which country was going to let you bring that monstrosity into their port again...?
    3. Don't these things require a crew of 1000's? Or at least 100 people I'd imagine, more if something goes wrong!
    4. It costs me $20 to fill my car up at the gas station...dear god, I don't even want to think of this!!!

    But beyond that, a cool purchase to be sure. It would be even funnier if it were on ebay.

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  27. Follow the hyperlinks... by SkArcher · · Score: 2, Interesting

    and you will find that there is a charitable fund set up to buy this and turn her into a floating museum, as befits her place as the last surviving WW2 british aircraft carrier

    A lot less interesting than the 'world domination' plans, but then, this carrier is outdated and wouldn't last 2 minutes against a modern navy, hence why it is for public sale.

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  28. Diamond Age.... by MrWa · · Score: 3, Funny

    So which billionaire Chinese man is going to buy this and raise thousands of orphan girls to raise into a karate-kicking, boot-toting army?

    1. Re:Diamond Age.... by CheechBG · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, with our luck the Scientologists will get their little grubby hands on it. Just what the world needs, a fake religious navy with a aircraft carrier.

  29. Cheap at the price! by spinlocked · · Score: 2, Funny

    $4.5m seems like a bargain until you tot up the running costs. Those admiralty drum boilers are thirsty beasts - HMS Belfast (a mere cruiser) had 4 of these, consuming ~26 tons of furnace fuel oil per hour at full steam. Plus of course the wages for your private army of mercenary sailors, uniforms, medals, rum, ex-soviet MiGs, an elaborate escape submarine - it soon adds up. It's not easy being an evil genius these days...

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  31. Serious proposal... by Uzull · · Score: 2, Funny

    set up a paypal account to gather the 4,5m USD, ship it to international waters, close to a big communication node, set up a server farm aboard of it, and say f... you to RIAA/DMCA/Whatever for the sake of freedom of speech and thinking !!! Of course no "illegal activities" like terrorism, drug trafficing etc.
    What do you think about it ?

    1. Re:Serious proposal... by Bradee-oh! · · Score: 3, Informative

      Where do you find a large communication node in the middle of the ocean, smarty pants?

      HavenCo, operating Six miles off the Eastern shore of Britain, smarty pants.

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  32. Aircraft carrier HOWTOs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    How to build an aircraft carrier:
    1. Acquire necessary parts and materials.
    2. Assemble.
    How to turn any boat into an aircraft carrier:
    1. Place aircraft on boat.
    How to sink an aircraft carrier:
    1. Make its average density greater than water.
  33. Re:Only one small problem... by Phoenix · · Score: 4, Informative

    No remotely modern aircraft is capable to land on it?

    Wanna bet?

    There is one aircraft that not only can take off and land on it, -but- is also the only aircraft that is permitted to take off and land while *any* aircraft carrier is docked in port.

    Harrier Jump Jets are reasonably modern as I recall.

    With the angled ramp as it is (or even perhaps angled a little bit more) the AV8-B would be able to take off with a minimal amount of fuel and without using the Catapults. If I'm not too terribly mistaken the British are doing that for thier light carrier fleet - harriers included.

    Landings would be no problem - at least no more problem than a normal Carrier Landing (controled crash anyone?)

    Phoenix

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  34. You think... by dentar · · Score: 4, Funny

    If I bought that aircraft carrier, then flew in on it dressed in a flight suit with the crotch all puffed up, people might be tricked into thinking -I- was a hero too?

    Thought not.

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  35. I'd go for something a little more fuel efficient by blair1q · · Score: 5, Funny

    Capacity: 3,196 Tons ...
    Endurance: 12,000 Nautical miles @ 14 Knots, 6,200 Nautical Miles @ 25 Knots


    So that's roughtly 4 nm/ton city, 2 highway.

    Great for running around town, but where would you park it?

  36. Re:Offshore computing center? by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Informative
    It's big, but not that big:
    • Length: 693' 3" Overall 630' Waterline
    • 690' Flight deck
    • Beam: 80' 119' 6" Flight deck
    • Draught: 23' Fore 23' 5" aft
    • Complement: 1300 (1000 Navy, 300 Air)
    • Hanger: 322' long by 52' Width by 17' 6" height
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  37. Re:Business Model - Already Done by Superfreaker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Our crazy NY mayor Bloomberg is actually doing this already. He is taking old cruise ships and outfitting them for low-income housing.

    I just hope they got rid of those silly hyper-contaigious diseases that were going around. Some 409 surface cleaner should do it. Well, a lot actually.

  38. Brazilian navy still strong by TrekkieGod · · Score: 2, Funny

    They still have 1 (one) aircraft carrier remaining...The "São Paulo".

    But, heck, who needs aircraft carriers when you can have this baby?

    LOL...and before the flame war starts...please understand this is just a joke. The list of other ships still commissioned is quite impressive.

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  39. So... COOL! by LeoDV · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seriously, if someone gave me $4,500,010 right now I would buy an aircraft carrier and a lot of candy.

    A way to make it profitable would be to go around the world and offer paying tours. Or even cruises (though that would require a lot of people...) Enough to supply the fuel, pay back the loan you took out to buy it and fit it with enough computers and a network to run it all from the bridge, but most of all, have the COOLEST HOUSE ON EARTH.

    ...so...COOL...

  40. Bring good things to life by baldass_newbie · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is there a corporation rich enough to become a "super power"?

    GE accounts for 1% of the US GDP and it's about the biggest F'ing company in the world (in terms of dollars and diversity) AND they make weapons systems.
    So, I'd say 'No'.

    Of course, they could kick France's ass, but then, so did Greenpeace.

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    1. Re:Bring good things to life by Have+Blue · · Score: 2, Interesting

      1% of the largest economy in the world is not exactly chump change. I'm sure GE is comparable to some of the smaller third-world countries, at least. I agree that that doesn't make them a superpower, and they aren't going to commit any acts of conquest while they're still part of the US, but it's not as impossible as it was a while ago.

      (And let's not forget the British East India Company, which effectively owned the lower half of Asia for a while.)

    2. Re:Bring good things to life by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 2, Informative
      "1% of the largest economy in the world is not exactly chump change. I'm sure GE is comparable to some of the smaller third-world countries, at least."

      FYI: As of July 2000, according to Fortune Magazine, GE Corp. has the 40th largest economy in the world.

      This is still smaller than Toyota, Exxon-Mobil, the big US Automobile makers, Wal Mart, Finland, Saudi Arabia and Poland.

      But it is larger than Portugal, Venezuela, Iran, Israel, Egypt, IBM, Volkswagon and AT&T.

      And GE is only 2.6X bigger than the 100th largest economy. But I do believe you're right in saying that 1% of it is similar to some small 3rd world nation.

  41. Re:L. Bob Rife. by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

    "L. Bob Rife" who creates his own religion and navy? Neal Stephenson was lucky that $cientology didn't sue him for violating their IP.

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  42. Easier way by Imperator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Get your former CEO elected as Vice President of the United States.

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  43. What's in YOUR wallet?! by Mulletproof · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't forget all those hidden fees when buying this carrier.

    -Insurance (Ow.)
    -Crew (you could get away with under a crew of thousand without aircraft and weapondry, I'm sure)
    -Supplies
    -Fuel (that's gonna kill ya)
    -Licencing (I'm sure the government isn't just gonna let you run around with a spare carrier without some sort of tax)
    -ATM fee

    I don't care if it is only 4.5 mil. You're gonna have to have deeeep pockets just for upkeep, let alone taking it out for a spin... And you can stop with the Neal Stephenson jokes now. They've all been taken.

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    1. Re:What's in YOUR wallet?! by afidel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why does everyone assume you need a crew of thousands for this thing. My dad was on an ore carrier that was larger than this and it had a crew of 23. And that crew included 3 cooks! Running and even maintaining this thing shouldn't take many people at all. Now operating the flight deck and maintaining a squadron of aircraft would take a bunch but just the ship would take a couple dozen tops.

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  44. Re:Only one small problem... by EmagGeek · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are actually two modern fighters that could easily land and take off. One is the Harrier as you mentioned. The other is the Joint Strike Fighter, which also has vertical T/O and landing capability...

  45. Let's get an aircraft carrier! by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

    "It's only a model."

    "Shhh!"

  46. "What are we going to do today, Brain?" by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

    "The same thing we do every day, Pinky, try to take over the world."

  47. Aricraft *Carrirr*, not flyer by AlecC · · Score: 2, Funny

    Back in abot 1971 I saw this ship at anchor in Rio harour. i was told by my Brazilian host that the first aircraft launched from the flight deck by the Brazilians had gone down, not up - and splashed. Since then, no pilot brave enough to have a second try had been found.

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  48. Now all I want to now... by littleRedFriend · · Score: 2, Funny

    before buying this baby. Would Redmond be in missile range lying infront of the coast of Vancouver?

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  49. Buy it for Canada! by farrellj · · Score: 4, Funny

    We haven't had a carrier since the Bonaventure!!!! Please donate and help us out!

    ttyl
    Farrell

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  50. Re:Offshore computing center? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You're probably thinking of an American Nimitz-class nuclear carrier, with its 5 acres of deck space and 5,000 crew. This one is WWII-vintage, and not quite so large. It's actually quite small, by aircraft carrier standards.

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  51. $4,500,000, 6 million Slashdot users - chip in! by TekPolitik · · Score: 4, Funny

    One Aircraft Carrier: $4,500,000.
    Slashdot registered users: 6,000,000.
    Online geek community with own aircraft carrier: Priceless.

    1. Re:$4,500,000, 6 million Slashdot users - chip in! by frackyfreak · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess that will bring new meaning to: "slashdoting the server" ouch.

  52. Re:Nice Price (little footnote) by T-Ranger · · Score: 5, Informative
    Both of the people who I have talked to who served abord Bonni' mentioned that it seemed to rust away while you watched when it was in service.

    For whatever reason, durring construction its hull sat around for something like 5 years for budgetarty reasons. At least 2 or 3 of its sister hulls diddnt get out of the construction phase.

  53. Not New York Harbor ... by mec · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... Puget Sound.

    Okay, now somebody make the joke about Battleships and Windows NT, please.

    1. Re:Not New York Harbor ... by Rick.C · · Score: 2, Funny
      Okay, now somebody make the joke about Battleships and Windows NT, please.

      A new Midshipman with only one foot hops into a battleship. The bartender says, "What'll you have sailor?"

      "Windows, no tomato," replies the Middie.

      The bar-keep mixes up something and slides it down the bar. "Hey! This is a Blue-screen-of-death," protests the Middie. "I ordered a Windows, no tomato."

      The bartender looks the sailor straight in the eye and says, "Inaccessable boot device."

      Karma: worse than it was a few minutes ago.

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  54. Re:I'd go for something a little more fuel efficie by Stigmata669 · · Score: 2, Funny

    am I the only person who read that as 4 nanometers/ton? I heard about $100 toilet seats, but ... wow.

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  55. Can I take it for a test drive? by gilesjuk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well I want to see if it runs well :)

  56. Logical applications by zakezuke · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Application #1: With current issues regarding DMCA laws and a whole bunch of bogusness... I'm rather shocked someone isn't considering buying such a beast in order to start up an off shore server in international waters. Pirate telivision / radio would also be a logical application.

    Application #2: Organizations such as Green Peace need boats in order to get around and block access. This is a big boat.

    Application #3: Off shore power plant. Production of things like hydrogen or other fuels.

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  57. European definition of "free" by ArsSineArtificio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hmmmm. This must be some new, European definition of "free" that hasn't yet spread to the US.

    Shhhh! You're supposed to pretend that it's the United States which has been trying for centuries to become a fascist, totalitarian empire, and Europe which is trying desperately to preserve Western civilization. It's the new fad, you see.

    ASA

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    1. Re:European definition of "free" by 73939133 · · Score: 2, Troll

      Shhhh! You're supposed to pretend that it's the United States which has been trying for centuries to become a fascist, totalitarian empire, and Europe which is trying desperately to preserve Western civilization. It's the new fad, you see.

      Sadly, you completely misunderstand why Europeans don't like US policies. Europeans don't argue about whether it is the US or Europe that should "preserve Western civilization", they believe that any such undertaking is intrinsically flawed. That was a lesson painfully learned over several centuries by Europeans, but America seems intent on repeating the same mistakes.

      As for fascism and totalitarianism, no nation is immune, not even the US. But maybe that, too, is a lesson Americans may have to discover for themselves.

  58. Re:Offshore computing center? by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yep this is a small carrier.

    Smaller than the amphib assault ships the Navy has.

    The only current aircraft one could operate off this would be A-4s, Harriers, Hawkeye AWACS, Trackers, and helos.

  59. Man, you find some crazy stuff on E-Bay. by surfcow · · Score: 2, Funny

    For Sale: 500,000 lbs of chemical weapons, only used once. Be the envy of your region! Buyer pays shipping.

    For Sale: special aluminium tubes for building a breeder reactor capable of creating weapon's grade materials, or perhaps just nice, shiny pipes for indoor plumbing.

    Unique - mobile biological weapons laboratories of an ingenious design. Guaranteed to contain no trace of any biological weapons material. Needs work.

    No Reserve! Blank Nigerian documents for Uranium exports, cheap. Great gag gift. No reserve!

    Rare Collector's item: Nuclear warhead of North Korean design. Discount for unstable dictators.

    First edition! "The Wit and Wisdom of George W. Bush". Mint condition. Buyer pays 37 cent postage.

  60. Less Dense Water: the Bermuda Triangle by handy_vandal · · Score: 4, Interesting
    How to sink an aircraft carrier:
    Make its average density greater than water.


    Alternately, make the water less dense:
    A British scientist claims to have solved the mystery of the Bermuda Triangle - and says the explanation could fix the world's energy problems.

    Geologist Dr Ben Clennell told a conference that the phenomenon where planes, ships and people have vanished was caused by giant gas bubbles.

    The gas bubbles resulted from underwater landslides releasing frozen methane gas which had built up over millennia. The methane ice "gas hydrate" was produced by deep-sea bacteria feeding beneath the ocean bed.

    The effect of these apple-sized bubbles rising to the surface could be disastrous because the release of a large quantity of methane would reduce the density of seawater.

    Search Google
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  61. Then the /. headline... by SunPin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ask Slashdot: A few months ago, we discussed how to buy an aircraft carrier. After a hectic fundraising bid, me and all my "friends" were able to purchase the Brazilian sea whore through PayPal. I thought "Brazilian Sea Whore" was such a rad name that we rechristened it with the name. Unfortunately, now there's a problem. We ran out of food and the situation makes Lord of the Flies look like a comedy. A portion of the crew has broken off into a Klingon language faction and is proposing mutiny. We've descended into cannibalism but we're not sure how to decide who dies first in a fair way for everybody. So my question is this: what do you think about using /. ID numbers in descending order as a valid way of choosing who gets cooked next? While some of the lower ID numbers are pretty fat and would last for weeks, it's probably not a good idea as they would make ideal emergency rations. Not like we don't have an emergency already...

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  62. *Build* your own Carrier. No, really. by Futaba-chan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Someone I know has thought fairly seriously of doing just that:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Carrie r/
    (membership required, et cetera).

  63. Canadian boat better and cheaper by digitalgimpus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.frenchcreekboatsales.com/details.asp?Fi le_Number=PW852

    The M.V. Cowichan
    (pronounced) M V COW-ITCH-en

    and affordable:

    Reduced to $190,000(CDN) OBO

    Boy, I guess it's safe to say they will never attack america.

  64. Re:I'd go for something a little more fuel efficie by blair1q · · Score: 2, Funny

    852000 gallons/tankful
    42 gallons/bbl
    20000 bbl/tankful
    $25/bbl

    ==> an even half-million bucks to fillerup.

    Do you think we'll have time to run in for a donut and a lottery ticket?

  65. Re:Ummmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Brazil ain't the richest of nations (or the free-est, for that matter),"

    Man, do you at least know Brazil to say that? Really sad to see that education, even in the "rich free countries" is going down to the drain...