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Profile of a Hard-Core Gamer

brettlbecker writes "The NYTimes is running a story on Richard L. Stenlund, or, as players of MMORPG Anarchy Online undoubtedly know him, Thedeacon. Quote from the article: "Thedeacon is a celebrity. Mr. Stenlund, meanwhile, feels trapped - trapped in a town too far from big cities where big things happen, trapped in a hand-to-mouth existence, trapped in a mean little culture of cheap thrills and fast-food television." Infamy, perversion, bankruptcy, virtual protests, online counseling. How much do *you* accomplish in 7 hours a day?"

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  1. Maybe i'm just dumb by seinman · · Score: 1, Funny

    but what's AO? I'm not about to waste my time making a fake NYT account just to see what those letters mean.

    1. Re:Maybe i'm just dumb by Quietust · · Score: 2, Funny

      Let's follow the pattern set by other game names:
      UO == Ultima Online
      PSO == Phantasy Star Online
      So, AO == America Online!
      Hmm, that might explain a few things...

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  2. i know how he feels! by Horny+Smurf · · Score: 5, Funny

    "excellent" karma, but that doesn't impress girls in the "real" world.

  3. People suck by kaltkalt · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The more you deal with people, the more you hate people" ... ain't that the truth?

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    Stupid people make stupid things profitable.
    1. Re:People suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Back in 6th grade or so, a kid wore a hirt that said "The more people I like, the more I like my dog".

      After we pointed out that he must be pretty personal with his diog, he never wore it again.

  4. hehe by CheechBG · · Score: 5, Funny
    trapped in a town too far from big cities where big things happen, trapped in a hand-to-mouth existence, trapped in a mean little culture of cheap thrills and fast-food television.

    wow, so they pretty much summed up Comic Book Guy, now who is this guy again?

    /I got nothin' :)

  5. If I did this I would be wealthy too by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Funny
    Productivity went up by 56% after I installed the iLoo.

    Geez, no wonder the guy is lv 200, and rich in the game. It looks like he's trying to 'lay an egg' right now.

    Apparently, some people *can* mix their 'buisiness' with pleasure.

  6. Funcom lives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    People still play AO?

  7. Hardcore Gamer? by Kozz · · Score: 5, Funny
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    1. Re:Hardcore Gamer? by modecx · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow, that can't be very comfortable at all. My neck would be bent out of shape in a few minutes.

      Perhaps they should have duct taped his head to the beam as well?

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  8. Re:Dupe? by Andrewkov · · Score: 1, Funny

    Most articles are dupes ... I have a bad short-term memory, so I still enjoy reading Slashdot.

  9. Consider the source... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's the New York Times. I'll wait until a reputable newspaper writes about it without all the we're-summing-up-the-trend-so-you-don't-have-to verbage.

  10. ^FLAMEBAIT^ by DumbWhiteGuy777 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh man, I bet you've pissed off the 12 year old gamer section of Slashdot. I'd watch out. They will sooo 0wn you with their Broad Axes of Destruction(+25 Dex, +10 Str, +2 to all Skills).

  11. Re:Since when is gaming a skill? by tomstdenis · · Score: 2, Funny

    The last sentence was supposed to read "Hard Core Gamer..." but I missed the 'd'.

    Pays to aim I guess...

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  12. They had gamers like these in the 80s... by Azadre · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... but their addiction consisted of cocaine and not video games. In ten years, caffine will be the thing gamers become addicted to! "I don't want to play Doom IV again, but why not - I haaave the POOOOOWEER!"

  13. How much do *I* accomplish in 7 hours a day? by DrJohnnie · · Score: 5, Funny

    about 15 minutes of actual work....

    1. Re:How much do *I* accomplish in 7 hours a day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I hear that...I've been at work for 93 minutes and all I've done is read slashdot comments.

      Posting anonymously for safety...

  14. Pervert??? by petronivs · · Score: 2, Funny

    Great, now everyone in Madison is going to know that even his wife thinks that he's a perv...

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    1. re:pervert??? by ed.han · · Score: 1, Funny

      um, hate to say it, but most wives *know* their husbands are pervs... :D

      ed

  15. Profile of a hardcore gamer by somethingwicked · · Score: 1, Funny

    Well, lets see-

    Shaggy, badly cut hair
    Probably has a large nose or some other non-appealing to the opposite sex feature
    A double chin from too much Mountain Dew and Pizza and inactivity
    A giant pot belly from the same
    Sagging shoulders from poor posture

    OH, wait, this is a PERSONALITY profile???

    Wow, that's going to be even scarier than the above image

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  16. Asheron's Call kiled a man... (not really) by Schezar · · Score: 5, Funny

    I attend the Rochester Institute of Technology. My freshman year (so long ago -_-), a friend of mine had a room mate, let's call him Loser.

    Now, Loser seemed like a nice guy. He was quiet, he used his computer, ate his grub, and generally stayed out of my friend's way. In fact, he never said anything to my friend, or to anyone else as far as we were aware.

    You see, Loser played Asheron's Call. All the time. His body would sit there rigid, unmoving, while he leveled. My friend recalls a specific incident where he woke up to find Loser playing, went to several classes, played some D&D with all of us, and returned over 9 hours later to find him still playing the game. We know Loser had been playing the whole time: he was wearing the same towel he'd had on that morning, and the empty plate we assume he'd eaten breakfast off of was still sitting on his lap.

    Loser would ignore fire alarms (which at RIT, which adjoins the National Technical Institute for the Deaf, is no small feat). Loser would forget to eat. Loser would rarely go to class, shave, bathe, or move.

    The end of the year came, and Loser went home. He kept his computer hooked up and running right up until his parents had moved everything else to the car. I assume it was the first thing he unpacked.

    Loser still goes to RIT as far as I can tell. I saw him in the Engineering building once, so I think he's an engineering student.

    I never liked Loser. I wonder why...

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  17. Never thought I'd see this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's one thing to be yet another online gaming addict written about....but an online gaming addict using AOL?

    And you thought SARS and Monkeypox were cause for alarm....

  18. Telling quote from the article by writertype · · Score: 5, Funny
    If a game is a rigidly defined artificial activity that is meant to be completed, or won, then products like Anarchy Online are in many ways not really games at all. Rather, they are full-fledged virtual sandboxes. Instead of castles, players build lives.
    He should try this in "Real Life". There's money, power, romance, derring-do... It's a rush.

    1. Re:Telling quote from the article by Ubergrendle · · Score: 2, Funny

      The problem with "Real Life" is that the penalty phase for a high frag count is enormous -- in some states the penalty is permanent account deletion!

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      John Maynard Keynes: "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?"
    2. Re:Telling quote from the article by fuzzybunny · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, agreed. However, throwing hand grenades at people in "real life" tends to be considered a bit of a faux-pas in many less-enlightened social circles.

      That's not, of course, meant to be judgmental, as I've found that throwing hand grenades at people can be a very productive form of conflict resolution; I'm just saying that the common hordes one encounters during the day may not necessarily be capable of understanding the enlightened intellect of the gamer.

      Why, just think about it, at some point there will be real money to be made in the sort of skills learned during online gameplay. "I'm sorry, sir, but you can't smoke here." "UNLEASH PLASMA HELL ON THE INFIDEL, MR. SULU." *ZOT* "there, now who's smoking here..."

      Potentially, the following mail from my some root-type person from my college computer organization sums up nicely what all the barbarians are thinking:


      I hate to offend any die-hard mudders in the bod (actually, I revel in the
      opportunity to do so....), but the first letter in that series, the one that
      said people should try to convice the evil sysadmin (does he know rob?) to
      allow the mud (muck? schmuck?) to stay up by touting, and I quote:

      "...worse ways to use up disk space, advantages of learning to program,
      friendships, and the safe nature of the MUD program."

      OH MY GOD!! I SEE THE ERROR OF OUR WAYS NOW! SO TRUE, SO BLINDINGLY TRUE!
      How could we have been so callous?! We didn't even think of the worse ways
      dburr could have (ab)used disk space and memory! How could we have been so
      stupid?? All the time, we were thinking petty things like "this will screw
      up the machine it's running on and slow down network connections for the
      whole cluster to a crawl," while ignoring the great programming experience
      that dburr was gaining. Alas! Why didn't we think about the great friend-
      ships that would have developed! Just think, because of our cruelty, some
      people might not be able to form the deep bonds which are inevitable when
      "Mr. Sticky" throws a grenade at "The Crimson Warlord"! And, gosh, it's
      not as if a MUD program isn't _safe_. When was the last time you heard your
      mother say "Oh, sure, a MUD's all fun and games until SOMEONE LOSES AN EYE!"
      Oh, woe is us, woe is us.

      Excuse me while I go flog myself in shame.

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  19. Interrogation by nounderscores · · Score: 5, Funny

    Agent Smith: As you can see, we've had our eye on you for some time now, Mr. Stenlund. It seems that you've been living two lives. In one life, you're Richard L. Stenlund, a struggling, frustrated 27-year-old computer repairman trapped in a town too far from big cities where big things happen, trapped in a hand-to-mouth existence, trapped in a mean little culture of cheap thrills and fast-food television. The other life is lived at the distant end of a strife-torn galaxy, where you are a genetically engineered mutant called Thedeacon and are guilty of virtually every soul-light dimming crime we have a law for. One of these lives has a future, and one of them does not. I'm going to be as forthcoming as I can be, Mr. Stenlund. You're here because we need your help. We know that you've been contacted by a certain individual, a man who calls himself Morpheus. Now whatever you think you know about this man is irrelevant. He is considered by many authorities to be the most dangerous man alive. My colleagues believe that I am wasting my time with you but I believe that you wish to do the right thing. We're willing to wipe the slate clean, give you a fresh start and all that we're asking in return is your cooperation in bringing a known terrorist to justice.

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    The Spiders are Coming. Next episode June 13th 2003

  20. Bladder of Steel? by DaRat · · Score: 5, Funny

    9+ hrs in the same spot? His name should have been "Bladder of Steel"!

    Or, [shudder] was there a large puddle at his feet?

  21. from the article by nounderscores · · Score: 2, Funny

    They don't get out much. That is partly a result of the couple's dim finances, but also a result of Mr. Stenlund's dim view of humanity. "The more you deal with people, the more you hate people," he said. "It just feels that everybody is so asleep in this world."

    [...]

    "No money," Ms. Werner-Stenlund recalled. "Nowhere to go. Nothing to do. We were being threatened to be sued left and right, and I think we were both on the verge of swallowing a bottle of pills."

    With the walls closing in, the Stenlunds fled to the mall one day in July 2001, just looking to treat themselves to some small gifts. Ms. Werner-Stenlund bought some shirts. Mr. Stenlund bought Anarchy Online.

    "I can honestly say that A. O. helped save my life," Mr. Stenlund said, sitting on a bench outside the store where his journey began.


    Games that heal. Hmmm I can feel a Dr Phil coming on....

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    The Spiders are Coming. Next episode: July 13, 2003

  22. Re:so I'm addicted to: by Surak · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did you even read the second paragraph of Transient0's post?

    Medically the second and third are used, with the added caveat that it is not an activity or substance normally considered to be necessary for survival (otherwise we are all food, oxygen and sleep addicts).

    That would *exclude* air, water, food, caffeine, and probably UN*X as well. ;)

  23. Moderation is a good thing. by mekkab · · Score: 4, Funny

    Except on slashdot.

    [RIM-SHOT!]

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    In the future, I would want to not be isolated from my friends in the Space Station.
  24. Addictions by Mr2cents · · Score: 2, Funny

    I always wanted to know hom many people are addicted to something. In my opinion, most people are addicted to one thing or another, let it be work, games or drugs. Personally, I stick to Wolfenstein and marihuana :).

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  25. so let move to vegas! by jzarling · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Now, however, the couple's most important goal is to relocate to an exotic destination in this galaxy: Las Vegas." So he's a guy with a addictive peronality traits, and he is moving to Vegas?

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  26. MMORPG stereotype destroyed! by mapmaker · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow, that story sure did dispell the biased notion that online RPG players are disfunctional failers in the real world who use these games to flee their miserable lives.

  27. Re:who's to say? by Luveno · · Score: 2, Funny

    Puritanism - The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be having a good time.

  28. I bet you haven't even tried! by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Funny
    Have you ever taken a seat next to a beautiful woman in a bar and said "Hey, Baby, my slashdot karma is excellent, mostly the result of moderations to my posts!"

    It could be the start of something beautiful. Be sure to let us know where you plan to try it so we can all be there to watch.

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    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

  29. Next on Springer by CodeHog · · Score: 2, Funny

    People who are gods in computer games but get no respect otherwise.

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    Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
  30. Re:Twin worlds by matt_wilts · · Score: 2, Funny

    The article makes a salient (if subtle) point -- the twin worlds of real and simulated are converging. The bytes on a stick of RAM, the packets flung across Cable TV lines -- these coalesce into a spatial world depicting personality and (in this case) lending illustration to a personal article.

    You are John Katz and I claim my five dollars.

  31. Re:Hey... by the_consumer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are you sure you don't have a looser definition of "girl" than the rest of us? ;)

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  32. Who cares!? by Scholasticus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who cares? I've been playing video games since I was a fetus! My mom had Pong implanted in her uterus! And that was back when video games were hard! Not like now - you kids got it easy! You have 3D graphics, but in my day your guy was just a little square with no name or nothing! And the screens just kept getting harder and harder until you died! Just like life!

  33. Re:I Smell an Elitist Hypocrite by Shawn+Baumgartner · · Score: 5, Funny

    It means that he's not one of the pinheads driving like an asshole, stealing the house plants by my front door, taking up two spaces in a crowded parking lot, or lobbying the government to enforce their particular morality on me at gunpoint. As far as I'm concerned, he's damn near royalty. ;)

  34. Re:Asheron's Call kiled a man... (not really) by zebs · · Score: 2, Funny

    I never liked Loser. I wonder why...

    He was better at it than you?

  35. Re:Oh great! by Surreal_Streaker · · Score: 2, Funny
    Having lived in Nevada for 8 years, Vegas is the last place someone with OCD should live. That is, I'm guessing he has OCD. Anyone that spends that much time playing a game to the detriment of his business, and the financial health of his family I'll take a chance and label him with OCD.

    OCD. OCD. OCD. OCD. OCD. OCD. OCD. OCD. ...

  36. For example... by DaveOf9thKey · · Score: 2, Funny
    I can't imagine anything I can do here in Washington D.C. that I could not have easily done in Madison.

    For example, you can't get within 500 yards of the White House in either Washington or Madison...

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  37. Positive Contribution by cyranoVR · · Score: 4, Funny
    My initial reaction was "this guy is a big-time loser." But then I thought about his story a little more deeply...

    First of all, his failiure in Real Life was probably inevitable - after all, it is fairly clear from the article that his AO addiction followed his failiure, not the other way around. He encountered failure, and chose to escape it through online gaming.

    Considering this, his situation is actually very similar - almost identical - to thousands (millions?) of other Americans - except that in his case you substitute

    "watches daytime TV all day"

    "is drunk of his ass all day"

    "sends spam emails all day"

    with

    "plays a MMORPG all 7 hours a day."

    Therefore, you have to recognize that at the very least his chosen activity is on the whole a positive, not negative, force. Sure, as its not helping him improve his Real Life (not yet anyway), but at least he is enriching others' lives through his contribution to AO. He's helping to make the game more enjoyable for dozens, hundreds or thousands of other people - therefore having a positive impact on people around him, however small.

    If more unemployed disillusioned types played online games all day instead of getting drunk and beating their kids, America might actually be a slightly better place.

    Fatter and pastier skinned, yes, but still slightly better.

  38. Advice for Mr. Stenlund, who hates the "false" by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 4, Funny
    "I think people are generally false. Even sitting here with you, we are putting on a front. But in A. O. you can really let your true character out. If I want to be a pervert, I am able to do that in A. O. and be a pervert right off the bat."

    I grok that perv stuff, baby. Still, rumor has it the Internet will allow you to be a pervert without paying monthly fees. Also, you won't have to wear robes or carry a staff around, and you can accomplish it in somewhat less than 7 hours per day.

  39. Re:Since when is gaming a skill? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You think is is random chance? Is it random that a serious Quake/Counter Strike/Street Fighter player could beat you 100 times in straight matches?

    No, it's not random chance, it's those pesky aimbots.

  40. Re:who's to say? by Hard_Code · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, depiction of violence is free speech. But cursing and nudity? OMIGOD! Censor it!

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  41. OMG! by bethanie · · Score: 2, Funny

    He demands sexual favors from mutants of all species and requests that, in particular, mutant females of the nanomage persuasion provide him their feet.

    I'm pretty sure I dated this guy in college!

    ....Bethanie....

  42. Re:who's to say? by junkgrep · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't try to argue with the zealots. They'll only say you're in denial and then pray to their higher power that you someday see the light.

  43. Re:Response from Thedeacon by dryueh · · Score: 3, Funny
    I'm sure there's a paragraph tag in there somewhere.....but damned if I can find it.

    Woof.