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Linux On The Dell Axim
An anonymous reader points to this interesting project to run the Familiar Linux distribution on the Dell Axim. "It includes a picture of the Axim running Linux and directions for loading Linux on the Dell Axim from the CF card. Looks like a good start to this project." It's limited for now (crashes after 15 minutes, must be loaded through the installed version of Windows), but everything starts out that way.
or are you just happy to see me?
yes yes thats right mother fuckers
There is no god
Why does it give me a 404 saying the article doesn't exist? Come on, get some database consistency going!
step by step guide to installing linux on the axim for dummies.
Have fun.
There is no god
Why is the goal now to run linux on everything, from your xbox to your "Pocket PC" I understand the xbox, but will running linux on your pocket pc really be useful? is it even worth the effort, or is it just something cool.
These guys are getting too good at imitating the competition!
Relax, it was supposed to be funny.
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DAMN YOU I MISSED FIST PROST!!!!11
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As actividades distintas da cópia, distribuiçom e modificaço
Now waiting for the obligatory soon-to-be-Slashdotted "I'm running Apache on my Axim!" news item ...
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Tämä on GPL lisenssin epävirallinen käännös suomeksi. Tätä käännöstä ei ole julkaissut Free Software Foundation eikä se määritä oikeudellisesti sitovasti GPL lisenssiä käyttävien ohjelmien levitysehtoja -- vain alkuperäinen englanninkielinen GPL lisenssin teksti on oikeudellisesti sitova. Toivomme kuitenkin, että tämä käännös auttaa suomenkielisiä ymmärtämään GPL lisenssiä paremmin.
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Käännöksen versio 1.0, heinäkuu 2001
Käännös ja sovittaminen Suomen oikeusjärjestelmään:
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Alkuperäinen englanninkielinen versio on osoitteessa:
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Tämän lisenssisopimuksen kirjaimellinen kopioiminen ja levittäminen on sallittu, mutta muuttaminen on kielletty.
Johdanto
Yleensä tietokoneohjelmien lisenssisopimukset on suunniteltu siten, että ne estävät ohjelmien vapaan jakamisen ja muuttamisen. Sen sijaan GPL lisenssi on suunniteltu takaamaan käyttäjän vapaus jakaa ja muuttaa ohjelmaa - lisenssi varmistaa, että ohjelma on vapaa kaikille käyttäjille. GPL lisenssi soveltuu pääosaan Free Software Foundationin ohjelmia ja mihin tahansa muuhun ohjelmaan, jonka tekijät ja oikeudenomistajat sitoutuvat sen käyttöön. (Joihinkin Free Software Foundationin ohjelmiin sovelletaan GPL lisenssin sijasta LGPL lisenssiä [GNU kirjastolisenssi]). Kuka tahansa voi käyttää GPL lisenssiä.
Kun tässä Lisenssissä puhutaan vapaasta ohjelmasta, silloin ei tarkoiteta hintaa. GPL lisenssi on nimittäin suunniteltu siten, että käyttäjälle taataan vapaus levittää kopioita vapaista ohjelmista (ja pyytää halutessaan maksu tästä palvelusta). GPL lisenssi takaa myös sen, että käyttäjä saa halutessaan ohjelman lähdekoodin, että hän voi muuttaa ohjelmaa tai käyttää osia siitä omissa vapaissa ohjelmissaan, ja että kaikkien näiden toimien tiedetään olevan sallittuja.
Jotta käyttäjän oikeudet turvattaisiin, lisenssillä asetetaan rajoituksia, jotka estävät ketä tahansa kieltämästä näitä oikeuksia tai vaatimasta niiden luovuttamista. Nämä rajoitukset merkitsevät tiettyjä velvoitteita jokaiselle käyttäjälle, joka levittää ohjelmakopioita tai muuttaa ohjelmaa.
Jokaisen joka esimerkiksi levittää kopioita GPL lisenssin alaisesta ohjelmasta, ilmaiseksi tai maksusta, on annettava käyttäjille kaikki oikeudet, jotka hänelläkin on. Jokaisella käyttäjällä on oltava varmasti mahdollisuus saada ohjelman lähdekoodi. Ohjelman käyttäjille on myöskin esitettävä tämän lisenssisopimuksen ehdot, jotta he tietävät oikeutensa.
Jokaisen oikeudet turvataan kahdella toimenpiteellä: (1) ohjelma suojataan tekijänoikeudell
Using the Axim as a X client on a wireless network would be kind of like having a kick ass linux remote control.
Why run Linux on everything? Windows does the job, if not better.
I think you need to get laid.
...deck of 52 of these.
(Fooled ya, didn't I!)
"A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democracy." --Theodore Roosevelt
It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.
What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:
I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual [goatse.cx] propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.
Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail [microsoft.com], which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'
As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted [salon.com] on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.
And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo [comp-u-geek.net] slut [rotten.com]!
Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual [goatse.cx] perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children [slashdot.org]. To quote from the article linked:
'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'
Is this why you were touching your penis [rotten.com] in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?
We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual [goatse.cx] terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or
It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.
What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:
I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual [goatse.cx] propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.
Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail [microsoft.com], which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'
As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted [salon.com] on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.
And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo [comp-u-geek.net] slut [rotten.com]!
Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual [goatse.cx] perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children [slashdot.org]. To quote from the article linked:
'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'
Is this why you were touching your penis [rotten.com] in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?
We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual [goatse.cx] terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (o
Well, I do congratulate this fellow on putting Linux on the Axim, but it seems to me that it has no purpose at all... If you really wanted to do something for the coolness of it all, I would like to see an Axim running Mac OS X, and burning CDs. That would be worth posting about.
Karma: Can there be a void?
.. -. - . .-. .-. --- -...
A naked freeBSD BoothBabe has been spotten naked in the wild! Some say it's a hoax, but should be regarded as a threat to vaginal security!
Let your concious decide...
From the anals of the LinuxWorld 2000 Expo: freeBSD BoothBabe
From the anals of the Internet: FreeBSD BoothBabe gone a'whorein'
What is it? Is it real or fake? I'm going to LinuxWorld 2003 Expo to find out for myself to make sure *BSD sure as fuck isn't dying!
Before I read the article I thought the submitter was having fun poking RedHat (or in the case of slashdot... gentoo), not stating the actual distro used, but just saying that it's very familiar.
Who would have thought (besides those who actually does dev stuff on handhelds) that there actually is such thing as Familiar Linux!
Welley Corporation - SLM Scammers
I see that it runs Qtopia from Trolltech. Is that GPL or not? I didn't think it was, of course I could be wrong. It's great to see KDE's portable cousin on this thing.
If you don't run linux on it, you can't make a beowulf cluster out of it.
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
We've seen Linux scale from as small as wristwatches to mainframes (both courtesy of IBM, oddly enough). So porting Linux to any particular handheld with an MMC is almost blase now :|
Now if only they could make it usable beyond 15min...
Doing the Right Thing should not be preempted by making a buck.
Once its stable, the applications will come..
Then you arent tied to Microsoft for your updates/licenses/applications/privacy/etc.. You can do as you please.. Its called 'freedom'..
Unless there comes a time when the hardware agreement forbids you to run anything but what is given you ( such as Xbox.. )
---- Booth was a patriot ----
How is this likely to change the market for PDAs?
A little, a lot?
Is it likely that HP Ipaqs or Dell Axims will be the preferred pocket pc platform for running linux?
If you were going to buy a new device would it already run linux?
It seems that a Dell device that could run linux would mean lower prices for the performance, particularly for vertical applications.
I already have a Dell Axim so my decision is made but I am curious to see how this new development will affect people who haven't bought a pocket device and already run linux.
(And I am aware of the Sharp linux PDAs)
Crashes after 15 minutes? Well, you have to register it of course! =P
time on worthless projects when they should be spending time on
something worthwhile, like a consistent user interface, easy OS
install, or a decent media player.
Until the Linux Community learns this very important lesson, Linux will
continue to be relegated to second class citizen status to superior OS's
like Windows XP or MacOS X.
/.: why the hell am I here?
Walking around a campus checking signal strength with something like this is real nice.
The simple truth is that interstellar distances will not fit into the human imagination
- Douglas Adams
you have the other 'cheap' PocketPC, I have accomplished much the same on the iPAQ h1910, of course with the support of the handhelds.org team. Come visit us on IRC on irc.freenode.net, channel #handhelds.org - and say that joshua_ sent you :)
~joshua
I just happened to be on Dell's web sight looking for a low end Mircosoft 2000 Power Edge to use as a print server and noted that an OS option was "Red Hat Linux 9.0"
zenray
The Sharp Zaurus 5500 et al support Linux, in fact, they SHIP with Linux. Install OpenZaurus and you have real Linux, yet with real apps, SSH, etc. etc. And it runs longer than 15 minutes.
I mean, this is cool, but hardly the breaking story of the decade.
I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
- SSH(which I have yet to see for ppc.
- Coding in other languages than the M$ langs
- xterm
- testing embedded stuff
Its a small, shallow pool of users but for cheap geeks who want to play with operating systems(that might be 99% of us) this is a good way to play embedded linux on a system that we use for other things.I have to ask...
How is this any more useful than just going out and buying a Zaurus? I'm not being snide. I can totally understand the tinker factor. But what does it really get you over what you can already get with the current crop of embedded Linux PDAs?
Why just don't you get Zaurus SL-5600 ? Same hardware as Axim and it has keyboard!
The most important is that your money go to company
supporting Linux on PDA!
When you buy Axim - your money goes to Dell and Microsoft and neither of them suport Linux on PDAs!
There is so much talk about no Linux notebooks
- here you have a very good Linux option,
why don't you support it ?
IF NOTHING ELSE.. Maybe we can finally escape the "Pocket IE" crap.. how about mozilla for axim! Incidentally, anybody know what the deal with the Windows Mobile 2003 upgrade from Dell is? I got my axim a few weeks ago and I have yet to find how I can get the upgrade.
It's limited for now (crashes after 15 minutes, must be loaded through the installed version of Windows), but everything starts out that way.
Or in the case of Microsoft Windows ME Upgrade Edition, stays that way!
For that terminal application, almost half the screen is taken up by useless junk (buttons, tabs, etc.). With a GUI like that, Linux won't stand much of a chance competing against Palm or even PPC. Unfortunately, the same is true of many of the applications on my Zaurus.
According to the article, the device won't crash after 15 if the suspend mode is disabled. RTFA. :)
Imagine a 400mhz Axim with good game controlers and a ipod-size hard drive.
Movies, games, emulators, with that kind of hardware the sky's the limit.
It was very clever... and original!
reboot it and *poof*
pigfukr
that Linux on an Axim is not your only choice, don't you?
Sheesh.
I would like to buy the entry 300 MHz edition for personal use (mp3, streaming mpeg to it, web from my bed, etc), development (pocketpc 2003 to testbed stuff...i know there are emulators but id rather have the real deal), and to run linux on.
The later is a big one. If I can run linux and all real linux tools on this badboy. Even if its not possible now will it be in the future with the same hardware as I buy today?
Wouldn't mind being able to run kismet, airsnort, airtraf etc from one of these. PS can this be done with an SD memory card? I'd prefer to run it from that and have an 802.11b WiFi in my compactflash.
thanks.
You said "crash" and "Linux" in the same sentence! Now /. is gonna have a week of Linuxnazis barking up poor Timothy's tree.
I figure that portrait mode is better for the non-CLI crowd (e.g. windows users) and landscape is better for CLI users. This looks perfect, if a little big. SSH from anywhere!
See the gadgeterr review to get an idea of the real size. http://sharp-world.com/corporate/news/021112.htmlm l
http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/sharp-c700-review.ht
It made me smile
Linux is VERY generic. But linux is both a horizontally and vertically integrated environment.
That is, many parts of linux are specially aimed at certain target platforms and environment. Also, it helps that linux itself is a very small thing, just a device intergration framework, scheduler, and set of required libraries to help software get onto the ground floor. E
You get app frameworks on top of it that are targetted to the platform that you run linux on.
To backpedal, the only real thing that makes one linux the same as another is the syscall numbers, filesystem layout, and the names of structures in header files, which is all designed so that you can take C source on one machine and trivially rebuild it for another and have it work the same way. But under the hood, the code powering one architecture may be vastly different than the next.
You'll notice if you unpack the kernel source that there are whole directories containing special-purpose files for different architectures, and many places where macros or #if statements are used to implement architecture-specific behaviors.
As for vertical expansion:
For example, on handhelds you have the "Familiar" linux distribution, which has specialty tools to deal with flash, a light-weight GUI, etc.
TiVO has it's own distro, NAS boxes usually use a version of it running with security patches and a limited number of tools (if any, maybe just a stand-alone app)
Full-fledged end-user distros come with a bazillion bells and whistles, 3d hardware support, Office suites, etc.
Fuck Beta. Fuck Dice
crashes after 15 minutes
Wow, linux has finally acheived the stability levels of Windows!
Boy are you missing the point.
The memory allocation of the Linux alows it to boot as an os even though it is not using effectively all the file storage access. Try that with a windows based os. Thump, crunch, no go! Put the Linux on its flash rom instead of pocket pc then you will have a real compact versatile os.
The memory mapping work done by the guy who wrote it is brilliant.
OH THE SHAME I fell off the wagon and use sigs again!
"Why is the OSS community so obsessed with re-inventing the wheel? (Or Unix for that matter...) Lets see another desktop model, for example, instead of Yet Another Windows Clone..."
Without re-engineering compition to Microsoft we will within 5 years have, surrendered all digital communication technology world-wide to one small consortium.
Nothing less than this is the corporate manifesto of Microsoft. If it can't control absolutely then it perverts through lobby in Washington D.C.
Of course MS never does any re-engineering, it just hires legions of virgins with a legal clean status to code only in their own version of C languages. It then has the dirty people tell them what bits they are to work on. Innovation? you be the judge!
OH THE SHAME I fell off the wagon and use sigs again!