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Keeper of the Objects
cEnTiBeE writes that this is "not about the Matrix," but rather about Near Earth Object tracking. "It's accomplished by a staff of 2.5 people watching to see when any 'vermin of the sky' plan to pay earth a visit. This piece titled Keeper of the Objects is in the August '03 issue of Scientific American."
We should get Ben Afleck and Bruce Willis and some nukes together. You know... in case we need to blow them up... or I mean... the astroid. :-P
2 and a half people? Cool. I wonder what the midget does.
Which extra half do they use, and for WHAT?!
Banaaaana!
Let's see...
1....
2....
3...George! Watch out for that...(splat)...nevermind.
2.5
The scary ones are where the scientists watch them for a week, and only see the size grow, with no apparent movement across the sky.
If only they got 1/10th of the budget of the hollywood films.
There are only a few things that hollywood does get right with respect to science, and this in particular.
1. We are presumably now at the first time in history that something could be done to avoid such a cataclysimic event.
2. Early detection is the key, It is far easier to deflect something millions of miles away, than it is when it is 4 minutes from impact.
I would place the protection of our planet from those things that would kill us all, as far more important than ensuring people didnt cheat on their taxes, and arn't sneaking booze in on the airplane, but, I dont choose where the tax dollars go... yet.
paul reinheimer
There are only 2 staff because the sacked the entire department previously, NASA begrudge handing over money to this project and has consistantly thought that the object tracking was not an important cause worthy of a whole research department (even though there are billions of objects that will cause serious damage to a sat if they are struck by it, then you have even more junk)
maybe when one lands in washington will they take it a bit more serious
....are the ones we don't need these 2.5 people to tell us about i.e. THAT COMET IS SOOOO BIG..... I can see it with my naked eye....and oh yeah it is comming right at us!!!!!
actually I am happy to see you, however that is in fact a banana in my pocket.
...this program wasn't in place when CowboyNeal was approaching earth.
Dude! Look at the picture! It's Dave Thomas!
Remember, the total number of people involved in watching the skies for potential Earth impactors is fewer than the staff of one shift of a modest McDonald's restaurant.
he can swing it quicker
Actually there is a lot more than 2.5 watching the skies. The Minor Planet Center takes data from amatuers as well as their own automated telescope. It is true that the MPC keeps and processes the data. Although ametuers are known from time to time to do their own orbital calculations.
I just saw how nasty this could be taken. I did not mean it that way. I apologize
This seems like business as usual for astronomy.. why does it merit a story?
The unofficial
I'm glad this guy has a good grasp on the subject, since most people don't seem to realize asteroids probably represent the most immediate threat of extinction to the human species. He should exaggerate a few more threats, so that someone actually starts contributing money to finding out ways to prevent the impact of an asteroid. All current /.ers will be dead by the time a big asteroid probably hits, but we should still have a plan.
Isnt the Wizard the keeper. ... Everything inherits from obj 0, but the Wizard is commonly the owner of everything (usually obj 2 or 3). Now of course there are other objects that can do things to ya, like when u logoff, put you into limbo...
MOO!
It's going to be a helluva lot harder to do more than that.
That's funny. I don't think you'll find a single astronomer or astrophysicist who would agree. So are we not to listen to astronomers?
We see them :) yeah we see them
Observer1: How many people do you see there?
Observer2: 2.5
Observer1: I think i see almost three - what do you mean 2.5?
Observer2: Yeah i see 2.5 - Saddam, Uday and Qusay - one of them has his head in another's ass
Observer1: Oh!
Microsoft and computers are ONE. Do not listen to people who say otherwise.
Resistance is futile.
Could someone please enlighten me? I hear a lot about NASA and how our budget for monitoring dangerous objects has been way too low.
Are other countries partaking in this? I know we're not the only ones with a space program, and I've BEEN to observatories across the globe. Yet in all of these stories, I never read about a comparison between us and, let's say, France.
Are there any other countries that make it a point to monitor the skies for this stuff? How do their budgets compare to ours? I'm not saying "Go USA," I'm actually curious.
Seriously, any information would be appreciated.
10m - every 1-5 years
100m - every 1000 years
1km - every 100,000 years
The Tunguska blast of 1908 was a roughly 100m asteroid, hitting land.
If it had been an ocean impact, it would have produced significant tsunamis.
On the remote chance it had landed right on top of a large city, then the city would be completely gone.
A 1km asteroid would wipe out a moderate US state, or create tsunamis that travel to most of the globe. Either way it would affect the climate due to dust clouds.
The observational population census for Earth crossing objects is only complete for objects in the 8-kilometre diameter range (such as 1627 Ivor) or larger. The detection completeness for 1 kilometre range is estimated to be in the region of 12%.
(further reading is here)
Maybe it's worthwhile upping the budget so we can track all of them down to 1km ?
-- the only thing we have to fear is really scary things
Check out my NEO map from my astronomer days (before this whole interweb thing stole me away)
http://szyzyg.arm.ac.uk/~spm/
It works off the same data and basically plots all the positions every day.
i thought that there are 3.5 people working. 3 full time and 1 'Kyle Smalley' part time.
vikrant narang
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In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe."
-- Carl Sagan, Cosmos
i mean i'd rather cpu cycles to stopping our total annhilation over seti any day of the week.
...Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum; together they can use a mac powerbook to write a virus that affects even alien asteroid computers, and then use it to spy on the asteroid's built-in doomsday clock. When the asteroid's internal macintosh powered countdown reaches almost zero (of course it's measured in seconds) we then can sick Afleck and Willis on it with a tactical nuke. The world is safe! And we don't need to involve any other Neo's at all. (That would just be ridiculous)
Speak for yourself.
As an astronomer, I can say with confidence that those 2.5 people probably do a lot more of technological babysitting than actual not-enough-time-in-the-day work... objects are found by computer software that compare image residuals (subtractions of images separated by a day or two)... fast moving things are closer to earth and may warrant follow-up with a larger 'scope.
A dead G.W. and more money for science in one fell swoop. That will be a happy day.
(In Iraq, that is) is approaching $70 billion as I type. How much are we spending on finding, let alone planning to deal with, the real Weapon of Mass Destruction that the cosmos will - not might, will - lob at us sooner or later?
I'm just picturing Stacey Implants on Fox whooping and flashing her brights because we've assassinated Saddam bin Laden's great grandkids and Saved Civilization Yet Again, just as the planet killer is nuzzling it's way inside lunar orbit. Shudder.
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Sounds like you almost did a Wiley Coyote. Did you have the little umbrella.
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