"then extend it to do things that it wasn't originally intended to do"
Your arms weren't meant to breathe, themselves. Does that mean they should sprout lungs and try?
The game design quandry is that creativity is best spent on the story. Set decoration is secondary to gameplay, but games aren't interesting if they are unbeliveable.
What I'm hoping is that Raven will do things that the Doom 3 engine was intended to do, but also do them better than Id Software.
... we have just to develop a better overall system of government selection. Based on credentials and the ability to serve? Based on ethics?
Perhaps just dump voting for people for voting on policy. With today's tech, there is no reason we couldn't have a system of government that let's everyone have direct say in policy and lawmaking.
Basically trade a system that doen't work for one that could... for a distributed government system, where voters make policy, instead of corrupt individuals influenced only by money and power.
My personal experience is that about 7/10 techsup peeps will change their monotone tune when you display some level of intelligence. The rest will become agitated for some reason.
Don't ya just hate em?
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The RIAA is nothing more than a bunch of leeches trying to shut down freedoms of people, using tactics similar to the railway tycoons of the olden days. If the music and movie industry wasn't so corrupt to begin with (ala $5/popcorn), they likely wouldn't see all their wealth circling the drain.
These industries are collectively nothing more than robber barrons of yore. What they need to do is pay actors a living wage, and that's it. Drop the profits and lower ticket prices. Drop the CD prices.
John Stuart Mill once said that progress was an unbending trajectory toward Utopia. He was wrong, but still it's the thought that counts, right?:)
Dear God I hope you are right! Fallout 3 is what I've been hoping for for a long long time.
Anyone seen the horribleBrotherhood of Steel game that Interplay has planned? Man it looks good from a console game-design standpoint... BUT... it's Fallout for the console, which anyone who is a die-hard Fallout fan, will agree is sacrilege!!!
What we all want is an epic Fallout SP game that has great diversity, whit and charm. We don't want any more Fallout Tactics, or BOS crap.
I guess what we want is something untainted by Interplay!
Snake is a great character for a video game. Plus the gadgets in the movies would also be good to develop. I wonder what engine this will use, but I'm guessing it'll be akin to the Doom 3 engine.
The character art looks pretty darn cool too. If they do this right, it could generate the kind of popularity Vice City did, yet with a Fallout flavour.
Do what I do: just about twenty minutes from yoga class, stand on a desk and reach for the ceiling and twist your body in a wierd manner (slight convulsions). Roll your eyes up in your head while you do this. I guarantee you'll get free psychotherapy and you won't have to go to yoga. Tell your boss it would disrupt your chi to have to do yoga. Then while everyone's out wasting time doing yoga, you can catch up at the office doing the important stuff - hijacking your boss' important clients for when you cut loose in a few months.
The sad truth is that they could have both had a much better gaming experience that might have *prevented* such a horrible shooting. Nerds being nerds, if they had fired up dual p3s running Quake 3 Test with Voodoo3s, the tech of that time, maybe they would have just played some DM on Q3Test2.bsp on that terrible day, instead of what they really did.
PacMan was violent. And Pacman has an eating disorder.
Pong. Those horrible little lines smash that poor speck of light on the screen. That poor speck!
Any sports games are violent. And they cause violence.
Even Barbie games are totally violent.
And has anyone here played Aladdin for Sega Genesis? Geez. That was the roughest G-rated game I've ever played.
Even Tetris is violent the way I play it.
I can't think of one nonviolent game. So I guess these French guys want to not only cash in on the gaming industry, but they want to become famous by creating the first nonviolent video game!
I would say, from your message, that your mistake was not going to your customer FIRST, before walking.
I went to the customer, the customer-of-the-customer, and the customer of the customer's customer. (three levels of customers).
The second level was sticking it to the third and the first level stuck it to me for walking. I went to all of them and explained my situation. The little guy was mad because he was lied to, and I was supposed to design all the stuff he wanted (and was promised by the second guy's sales team); but I wasn't about to sell my soul for a measley $100 flat -- everyone's got a price, but only a real fool's price is $100 flat!!! Plus there was the issue of the SSL connection; it's just damn illegal to sell credit card transactions without a secure pipe.
The long and short of it was that I really put some thought into this decision before I followed through on it. I also got totally yelled at by the first customer, who was innocent of all this -- except the fact that they kept pressing me to please the second customer (who was using illegal methods to make money).
If you did so and I was mislead by your message, then I apologize.
No prob!:) You raised a really good point.
However, there is a difference between quitting over shady business practices and sexual harrasement - sad but true. The former will get YOU blacklisted, the latter will get the offending company blacklisted, witch-hunted, and perp-walked on an ambush-journalism show.
Yeah, but who cares, really. If you're blacklisted by a bunch of scurvy dogs, then it's okay because anyone who has dealt with them knows how *they* work. When YIN don't want ya, YANG will. There's always some other deal lurking around the corner. I just happen to have a big disclaimer now that our company has an honest-only policy, so that customers can expect that from us, and bank on it.
Yes, it is sad that our society does not encourage personal responsiblity. But folks like you and me who are willing to pay the penalty for doing the right thing are the only barrier between us and the pit.
Here's where I agree with you too. The simple truth is that when we're too stuck in business to move away from unethical situations, we aren't free to be lawful. This same freedom is what might have saved some folks at Enron if they had some gumption. But that's not always the case. Moral decay is like tooth decay because it starts from something innocent like candy or skipping a brushing, or when little white lies start to pay off soooo well, they become bigger and bigger to increase the bottom line. Dilligence is the only way to stop either of those rots.
I had something similar to this happen to me but it wasn't sexual. It was related to my not going along with specific policies at a client's whim. I basically walked off a project because a customer-of-a-customer was using dirty up-sales techniques to fool customers into thinking they were getting something they weren't.
Salesmonkey: "Yes sir, your clients can order product online, even without a secure ssl or https line... we can just have their credit card numbers emailed to you with this link I like to call an "Electronic Mail Exchange Link". You get this and all the other great features of your new brochure site! All for under $500!"
Me: "I'm outta here!"
When I walked, I was not given any more work by the main customer, and even after explaining this to the boss lady, she just snarled at me for not falling in line. Sexual or no, it's really hard for consultants to make their way when there is so much power in the almighty buck. I will always make good ethical decisions in the future, but at a heavy cost to my business -- because it's sometimes hard to make such decisions knowing what the outcome will be (win for ethics == loss of profit (something I like to call the conscience tax)). In this case it was obvious, but some other cases were less than cut & dry. But there isn't really much of a recourse for consultants with ethics -- alternatively it's much more profitable for consultants to be the other way. And we wonder why the world is going to hell in a hand basket...
So you're saying that infighting between two non-official parties related to Myth2 is news? HA!
Learning about Cameron Diaz's wardrobe sessions for Charlie's Angels 2 is what I would call news (please include pix, Mr. CowboyNeal). New Linux info is news. Doom 3 level design information and lighting FAQs would be gaming news to me. A story on how BSP has developed since infancy is news, even though it's not new. Myth 2 is so old this might as well have been about Hexen or Quake, or even the new MunchMan game for your TI!
I can see it now::: Tomorrow on/. : how Thresh won a Ferarri and became the first real pro gamer.
This is a terrible news story. I went to their site and it's just a bunch of script kiddies ranting about some game nobody cares about anymore. Plus, by posting this news, you have to admit you are giving these kids what they want - undue spotlight. I think this story doesn't fit slashdot, IMHO.
This is a good move for these guys and gamers everywhere should be very excited because when a few guys leave like this, a really cool game is around the corner. Look at Troika when they left Interplay/Black Isle. Arcanum is still a really amazing game and I can't wait for more from Troika... like The Temple of Elemental Evil (Dungeons & Dragons)
SMS is the most greedy disgusting sham I have ever heard of. Can you imagine the shitstorm if Mirabilis charges a dollar per text message? Can you imagine if MSN did that? In fact, because of SMS I will never get a phone that supports it and will continue to actively seek products that do not have the feature.
They have decided to let us know they are still working on it. Seriously I think all the 3dr guys must think the world is full of idiots. They should have cancelled this project years ago! Without being trollish, the guys at 3dR have made the public wait long enough that there is zero possibility that this game will sell any units or make any money at all. Because they kept falling behind the real pros with tech, 3dR has lagged and lagged this project to the bitter end. There is no possibility that this will be anything other than vapourware, and in the strict possibility that they release the product, they will definitely release an inferior product. There is nothing new to the shooters out there, really anyway. Sorry if I sound emotional over this project, but I strongly dislike companies that promise the world and fail to deliver. If you can't execute, you're lost in business. Give up. 3dR has proven time and time again that they can't deliver on promises, so their word is crap. Don't get me wrong, they have made some quality products, such as Max Payne, who was the basis for the guy in GTA3. But don't be fooled. 3dR cashes in on false promises, which is a real industry no-no, IMHO.
I went and saw Sade in concert only after hearing an mp3 of hers. My wife and I would NEVER have done that without first hearing her latest music. She's come very far since the eighties.
The corporate machine is not fascist, or totalitarian. It's greedy, is all. The dummies who want to kill p2p are just shooting themselves in the foot because they aren't smart enought to realize that it BOOSTS the ecconomy. Come on Harvard, where are the papers to back this up!?!
Looks like MS has smashed through this whole anti-trust fiasco -- for the most part. I think this is a moderately appropriate legal decision from W. Va, because it shows they aren't just picking on a company. This is a good settlement, no matter what anyone says, IMHO.
This sum might be chump change to Microsoft, but it still isn't going to make the market suffer as much as a larger settlement would have. This is good news for all the wrong reasons. It's sad to think that the customers are going to take these settlements on the chin, but at least we have some breathing room with this ammount. Spread it out and MS prices go up 2-3% above and beyond current inflation.
West Virginia should turn around and offer a 5% discount on MS products for all W. Va. residents!:)
Your best bet for assets is to study all aspects of game design yourself. I taught college game design and I'll tell you what I tell my students.
If you want something done you have to rely on yourself. Don't wait for your key models person to come and save your project. Don't rely on anyone at all. Be sure of your concept, and allow it to grow via the process, but remember that it's yours and you are ultimately responsible for the success or failure of the project. Learn to do the aspects of the game you need yourself. Take the time to learn Maya, and learn Soundforge and learn Photoshop. If you really canâ(TM)t do art at all, you will need to team up with an artist, but I would limit your team to two members until you have a demo. Otherwise you spend all your time managing the team and no time producing your vision.
"Smart bricks" invented this technology! I can just picture the board meeting where they sat around talking about how they could sell bricks for $220 USD ea.
Joking asside, construction material that provides feedback is likely better than construction material that does nothing but watch the paint flake.
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"then extend it to do things that it wasn't originally intended to do"
Your arms weren't meant to breathe, themselves. Does that mean they should sprout lungs and try?
The game design quandry is that creativity is best spent on the story. Set decoration is secondary to gameplay, but games aren't interesting if they are unbeliveable.
What I'm hoping is that Raven will do things that the Doom 3 engine was intended to do, but also do them better than Id Software.
I think we're past the gimmie-gimicks.
... we have just to develop a better overall system of government selection. Based on credentials and the ability to serve? Based on ethics?
Perhaps just dump voting for people for voting on policy. With today's tech, there is no reason we couldn't have a system of government that let's everyone have direct say in policy and lawmaking.
Basically trade a system that doen't work for one that could... for a distributed government system, where voters make policy, instead of corrupt individuals influenced only by money and power.
My personal experience is that about 7/10 techsup peeps will change their monotone tune when you display some level of intelligence. The rest will become agitated for some reason.
The RIAA is nothing more than a bunch of leeches trying to shut down freedoms of people, using tactics similar to the railway tycoons of the olden days. If the music and movie industry wasn't so corrupt to begin with (ala $5/popcorn), they likely wouldn't see all their wealth circling the drain.
:)
These industries are collectively nothing more than robber barrons of yore. What they need to do is pay actors a living wage, and that's it. Drop the profits and lower ticket prices. Drop the CD prices.
John Stuart Mill once said that progress was an unbending trajectory toward Utopia. He was wrong, but still it's the thought that counts, right?
Dear God I hope you are right! Fallout 3 is what I've been hoping for for a long long time.
Anyone seen the horrible Brotherhood of Steel game that Interplay has planned? Man it looks good from a console game-design standpoint... BUT... it's Fallout for the console, which anyone who is a die-hard Fallout fan, will agree is sacrilege!!!
What we all want is an epic Fallout SP game that has great diversity, whit and charm. We don't want any more Fallout Tactics, or BOS crap.
I guess what we want is something untainted by Interplay!
Snake is a great character for a video game. Plus the gadgets in the movies would also be good to develop. I wonder what engine this will use, but I'm guessing it'll be akin to the Doom 3 engine.
The character art looks pretty darn cool too. If they do this right, it could generate the kind of popularity Vice City did, yet with a Fallout flavour.
Do what I do: just about twenty minutes from yoga class, stand on a desk and reach for the ceiling and twist your body in a wierd manner (slight convulsions). Roll your eyes up in your head while you do this. I guarantee you'll get free psychotherapy and you won't have to go to yoga. Tell your boss it would disrupt your chi to have to do yoga. Then while everyone's out wasting time doing yoga, you can catch up at the office doing the important stuff - hijacking your boss' important clients for when you cut loose in a few months.
Yeah we should likely invest in a big program to protect the planet... like a giant shield emitter.
:P
Okay so I play too much Moo3....
The sad truth is that they could have both had a much better gaming experience that might have *prevented* such a horrible shooting. Nerds being nerds, if they had fired up dual p3s running Quake 3 Test with Voodoo3s, the tech of that time, maybe they would have just played some DM on Q3Test2.bsp on that terrible day, instead of what they really did.
On the same week *it* happened, they could have found out about how cool Duke Nukem Forever was going to be. (*snicker*)
Is there such a thing?
PacMan was violent. And Pacman has an eating disorder.
Pong. Those horrible little lines smash that poor speck of light on the screen. That poor speck!
Any sports games are violent. And they cause violence.
Even Barbie games are totally violent.
And has anyone here played Aladdin for Sega Genesis? Geez. That was the roughest G-rated game I've ever played.
Even Tetris is violent the way I play it.
I can't think of one nonviolent game. So I guess these French guys want to not only cash in on the gaming industry, but they want to become famous by creating the first nonviolent video game!
What will they call it?
Clever Paint Drying 2005!
Somebody phone Disney okay? (I don't know if they have email.)
The second level was sticking it to the third and the first level stuck it to me for walking. I went to all of them and explained my situation. The little guy was mad because he was lied to, and I was supposed to design all the stuff he wanted (and was promised by the second guy's sales team); but I wasn't about to sell my soul for a measley $100 flat -- everyone's got a price, but only a real fool's price is $100 flat!!! Plus there was the issue of the SSL connection; it's just damn illegal to sell credit card transactions without a secure pipe.
The long and short of it was that I really put some thought into this decision before I followed through on it. I also got totally yelled at by the first customer, who was innocent of all this -- except the fact that they kept pressing me to please the second customer (who was using illegal methods to make money).
No prob!Salesmonkey: "Yes sir, your clients can order product online, even without a secure ssl or https line... we can just have their credit card numbers emailed to you with this link I like to call an "Electronic Mail Exchange Link". You get this and all the other great features of your new brochure site! All for under $500!"
Me: "I'm outta here!"
When I walked, I was not given any more work by the main customer, and even after explaining this to the boss lady, she just snarled at me for not falling in line. Sexual or no, it's really hard for consultants to make their way when there is so much power in the almighty buck. I will always make good ethical decisions in the future, but at a heavy cost to my business -- because it's sometimes hard to make such decisions knowing what the outcome will be (win for ethics == loss of profit (something I like to call the conscience tax)). In this case it was obvious, but some other cases were less than cut & dry. But there isn't really much of a recourse for consultants with ethics -- alternatively it's much more profitable for consultants to be the other way. And we wonder why the world is going to hell in a hand basket...
Learning about Cameron Diaz's wardrobe sessions for Charlie's Angels 2 is what I would call news (please include pix, Mr. CowboyNeal). New Linux info is news. Doom 3 level design information and lighting FAQs would be gaming news to me. A story on how BSP has developed since infancy is news, even though it's not new. Myth 2 is so old this might as well have been about Hexen or Quake, or even the new MunchMan game for your TI!
I can see it now::: Tomorrow on /. : how Thresh won a Ferarri and became the first real pro gamer.
Dear users, your sperm was stolen by the Al Qaeda. You are now the proud father of several terrorists. Have a nice day!
This is a terrible news story. I went to their site and it's just a bunch of script kiddies ranting about some game nobody cares about anymore. Plus, by posting this news, you have to admit you are giving these kids what they want - undue spotlight. I think this story doesn't fit slashdot, IMHO.
This is a good move for these guys and gamers everywhere should be very excited because when a few guys leave like this, a really cool game is around the corner. Look at Troika when they left Interplay/Black Isle. Arcanum is still a really amazing game and I can't wait for more from Troika... like The Temple of Elemental Evil (Dungeons & Dragons)
SMS is the most greedy disgusting sham I have ever heard of. Can you imagine the shitstorm if Mirabilis charges a dollar per text message? Can you imagine if MSN did that? In fact, because of SMS I will never get a phone that supports it and will continue to actively seek products that do not have the feature.
They have decided to let us know they are still working on it. Seriously I think all the 3dr guys must think the world is full of idiots. They should have cancelled this project years ago! Without being trollish, the guys at 3dR have made the public wait long enough that there is zero possibility that this game will sell any units or make any money at all. Because they kept falling behind the real pros with tech, 3dR has lagged and lagged this project to the bitter end. There is no possibility that this will be anything other than vapourware, and in the strict possibility that they release the product, they will definitely release an inferior product. There is nothing new to the shooters out there, really anyway. Sorry if I sound emotional over this project, but I strongly dislike companies that promise the world and fail to deliver. If you can't execute, you're lost in business. Give up. 3dR has proven time and time again that they can't deliver on promises, so their word is crap. Don't get me wrong, they have made some quality products, such as Max Payne, who was the basis for the guy in GTA3. But don't be fooled. 3dR cashes in on false promises, which is a real industry no-no, IMHO.
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these Million Man LANS!
I went and saw Sade in concert only after hearing an mp3 of hers. My wife and I would NEVER have done that without first hearing her latest music. She's come very far since the eighties.
The corporate machine is not fascist, or totalitarian. It's greedy, is all. The dummies who want to kill p2p are just shooting themselves in the foot because they aren't smart enought to realize that it BOOSTS the ecconomy. Come on Harvard, where are the papers to back this up!?!
Looks like MS has smashed through this whole anti-trust fiasco -- for the most part. I think this is a moderately appropriate legal decision from W. Va, because it shows they aren't just picking on a company. This is a good settlement, no matter what anyone says, IMHO.
:)
This sum might be chump change to Microsoft, but it still isn't going to make the market suffer as much as a larger settlement would have. This is good news for all the wrong reasons. It's sad to think that the customers are going to take these settlements on the chin, but at least we have some breathing room with this ammount. Spread it out and MS prices go up 2-3% above and beyond current inflation.
West Virginia should turn around and offer a 5% discount on MS products for all W. Va. residents!
Your best bet for assets is to study all aspects of game design yourself. I taught college game design and I'll tell you what I tell my students.
If you want something done you have to rely on yourself. Don't wait for your key models person to come and save your project. Don't rely on anyone at all. Be sure of your concept, and allow it to grow via the process, but remember that it's yours and you are ultimately responsible for the success or failure of the project. Learn to do the aspects of the game you need yourself. Take the time to learn Maya, and learn Soundforge and learn Photoshop. If you really canâ(TM)t do art at all, you will need to team up with an artist, but I would limit your team to two members until you have a demo. Otherwise you spend all your time managing the team and no time producing your vision.
"Smart bricks" invented this technology! I can just picture the board meeting where they sat around talking about how they could sell bricks for $220 USD ea.
Joking asside, construction material that provides feedback is likely better than construction material that does nothing but watch the paint flake.
I happen to like yaxay.com for images and PHP info. If you're into culture, although sometimes annoying, I like Kuro5hin.org.