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Zero Blaster Reviewed

Daniel Rutter writes "I've just reviewed the Zero Blaster, the smoke ring gun that ThinkGeek (among others) sell. It works. It's fun. It's a vortex ring physics demonstration with two triggers and a see-through mechanism. What more could you want for $20?" Thinkgeek and Slashdot are both owned by VA Software.

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  1. What, indeed..... by mao+che+minh · · Score: 2, Troll
    "What more could you want for $20?"

    Do I really even have to answer that question?

    Some possibilities:

    Answer #1
    Answer #2
    Answer #3

    1. Re:What, indeed..... by mesach · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'll take what's behind door #3 Monty.

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    2. Re:What, indeed..... by Alien+Being · · Score: 1
    3. Re:What, indeed..... by thanjee · · Score: 1

      They are only $20 each? I have $60, I will buy all three!!!!!!

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    4. Re:What, indeed..... by adyus · · Score: 1

      Jeez, you almost gave me a heart attack! I thought people knew better than to post links to possibly brain damaging material on Slashdot!

    5. Re:What, indeed..... by Killio · · Score: 1

      Please explain to me how I can "get" (?) Salma Hayek for 20 bucks. In fact, I'll dig up a whole stack of twenties for this purpose. Much obliged.

  2. How... by Wes+Janson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...did this make the main page on /.? Must be a slow news day if this makes front page, and Yahoo! News has a story about nine comedians on the front page.

  3. New category needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ads.slashdot.org

    1. Re:New category needed by Mikey-San · · Score: 1

      mikey% sudo echo "0.0.0.0 ads.slashdot.org" >> /etc/hosts

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    2. Re:New category needed by sketerpot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, at least the editors don't try to hide the fact that slashdot and thinkgeek are owned by the same company. Isn't integrity nice?

    3. Re:New category needed by Omnifarious · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's real integrity. Not some fluffy, patently false attempt to claim you've managed to expunge all trace of bias.

    4. Re:New category needed by cyril3 · · Score: 1
      Isn't integrity nice?

      Yes, integrity is great. If you can fake it you've got it made.

  4. right, pump trigger by taxman_10m · · Score: 1

    One of them you fill with the supplied fluid. The other one's for overflow, from overenthusiastic use of the pump-trigger.

  5. It's awesome, seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I own it and it's awesome. And if you READ THE DIRECTIONS it shoots the rings much farther than a few centimeteres (I have gotten several meters) and you can also get rings to shoot through other rings. And you can get scented fog solution that disperses in a couple of minutes. In summary, it is awesome and will scare the crap out of your dog.

    1. Re:It's awesome, seriously by RighteousFunby · · Score: 1

      For "Anonymous Coward" read, "CmdrTaco on commission from VA Software".

    2. Re:It's awesome, seriously by More+Karma+Than+God · · Score: 5, Funny

      >...and will scare the crap out of your dog.

      Let's try that trick outside.

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    3. Re:It's awesome, seriously by whereiswaldo · · Score: 1

      In summary, it is awesome and will scare the crap out of your dog.

      Ahh, quit blowing smoke up my ass.

      Said the dog.

    4. Re:It's awesome, seriously by Frank+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      "much farther than a few centimeteres (I have gotten several "

      I don't use the metric system you insensitive clod!!!

    5. Re:It's awesome, seriously by finallyHasANickname · · Score: 1
      I proudly announce now that I am a value-added reseller. For only $49.99 you can get not only the nifty thing to blow your "O" at your throng of ladies in thongs; now, when the amazing machine invariably scares the crap out of your dog, you get a poop scooper clipped to the handle in case you can talk someone into cleaning up the doggy crap.

      Yes. You heard it here first.

      Disclaimer:
      Keyboard key actuators are owned by Not-VA-but-ME Software, and any problems you have with said company are, um, the fault of Arthur Anderson and Associates and of most other currently defunct liability sinks. Furthermore, this is void where prohibited, must be 18 to enter, available only at participating retailers, except as is necessary to avoid flying "O" in the throng, operators are standing by, but that does not inhere liability to answer the phones, nor does it imply any fitness or suitability for any purpose. By agreeing to the terms of this disclaimer, you promise never to compare its performance to Java, which is solely the responsibility of Scott McNealy between eye-blackening sessions with most billionaires you have heard of.

    6. Re:It's awesome, seriously by JThundley · · Score: 1

      It is awesome, I bought one for my girlfriend and they shoot clear across the room. It does taste funny though.

  6. Spoilers by DorkHead · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thinkgeek and Slashdot are both owned by VA Software. Damn it! Here I was preparing a huge conspiracy post about how VA Software is abusing Slashdot's position among nerds to promote merchandise from one of it's other companies and then you just give it all away. What am I supposed to complain about today then? Couldn't you atleast give me a dupe or some bad grammar?

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    1. Re:Spoilers by Jacer · · Score: 1

      Daniel Rutter writes "I've just reviewed the Zero Blaster, the smoke ring gun that ThinkGeek (among others) sell. Grammar, shouldn't that read sells?

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    2. Re:Spoilers by gvonk · · Score: 1

      Nah, implying a plural subject with a singular word that signifies a group of people is one of those English constructions that is actually technically correct in some dialects...
      It's popular in Britain. The UK do it all the time...

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  7. ads by Kyle+Hamilton · · Score: 2, Interesting

    you know for every 10 bucks I spend on thinkgeek I sould get something like 20 page views added to my Slashdot account I would shop more at Thinkgeek then I would at http://www.Jinxhackwear.com

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    1. Re:ads by Kyle+Hamilton · · Score: 1

      you never know there are some hot geek girls *there where some at Linux World*

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  8. How about pictures or video of a demonstation? by fredistheking · · Score: 1


    There are many pictures of the actual device, but where are the pictures of operation?

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    1. Re:How about pictures or video of a demonstation? by bad_fx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Here. I must say I'm particularly excited about the ability of this device to "impress the laay-deees"... uhh.. yeah.

      oh, and there's a video here, though without any impressed "laay-deees." :(

  9. not much news by focitrixilous+P · · Score: 1

    Who can we say about this? SCO is not present, M$ is not present, there are no Linux Champions to praise... why? What can I say? Still, looks like a fun little toy to have. However, I prefer guns that leave marks in walls at 8 feet.

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  10. Hmm by Openadvocate · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think I would be happier WITH the dollar.

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  11. 20 dolla by zumbojo · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's $20 and produces smoke rings? Must be an eighth of...oh...nevermind it's a toy. :-P

  12. For those of you complaining about the 'ads' by Valar · · Score: 3, Funny

    Keep in mind that someone submitted this. And that the editors of slashdot are too busy on stage three (that's right PROFIT!!!) to care if Thinkgeek makes a couple of extra bucks here and there. Plus, admit it. You want one. Or maybe I'm part of the overarching conspiracy too. Bwahaha.

    1. Re:For those of you complaining about the 'ads' by SirDaShadow · · Score: 1

      Except for the fact that both thinkgeek and slashdot are owned by the same people. Then again, they have to pay the bills.

    2. Re:For those of you complaining about the 'ads' by finallyHasANickname · · Score: 1

      Posted by michael on Saturday August 09, @07:58PM from the scare-the-cat dept. Daniel Rutter writes "I've just reviewed the Zero Blaster, the smoke ring gun that ThinkGeek (among others) sell. It works. It's fun. It's a vortex ring physics demonstration with two triggers and a see-through mechanism with Linda Tripp sitting on the other side, eager to engage in girl talk. What more could you want for $20?" Thinkgeek and Slashdot are both owned by VA Software.

  13. Smoke Rings Eh? by Matt_Fisher · · Score: 1

    Well after i read these reviews I went over to my buddies place who just purchased one. I was not very impressed and like others have said it does kind of stink. I also agree with the other that this post on slashdot seem kind of pointless. I belive that most users of /. have seen and regularly for to thinkgeek.

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    1. Re:Smoke Rings Eh? by devilspgd · · Score: 1

      I belive that most users of /. have seen and regularly for to thinkgeek.

      What the fuck are you trying to say?

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  14. Darn, not what I thought by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny
    When I read the title I thought, "OMG! Someone made a sequel to Zero Wing?!"

    Oh well, a smoke-ring gun is pretty good.

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    1. Re:Darn, not what I thought by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      Yeah, it'd be tough to mix a bit of modern tech with the original style.

      But then again, you could always just play ping-pong (Coffee and Cats warning.)

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    2. Re:Darn, not what I thought by GQuon · · Score: 1

      I could say "I told you so!", but I won't.

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  15. among others by frovingslosh · · Score: 3, Insightful
    the smoke ring gun that ThinkGeek (among others) sell.

    So can anyone tell me who the among others are? Particularly anyone who might sell this toy from a retail store front? I would rather not mail order one and pay a steep shipping charge, and I do resent the Think Geek website approach of trying to make me "register" before I can even find out what the shipping cost is. (For all I know they might even be like other sites that make me give a credit card number before they will tell me the shipping charges, but I never got that far. I do buy on-line, but I never register or give a credit card number before I find out if I want to do business with the company, and for those that require it, I take my business elsewhere.

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    1. Re:among others by wfberg · · Score: 1

      the smoke ring gun that ThinkGeek (among others) sell.

      So can anyone tell me who the among others are?


      google can!
      They even lists what appears to be the manufacturer. Contact them for wholesale info.

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    2. Re:among others by Lord+Zerrr · · Score: 1

      I ordered a bunch of stuff from them and it came to $6.95 for 2nd day air. Stuff arrived neatly packed and well protected.

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    3. Re:among others by sketerpot · · Score: 1

      If you want to buy something, I'd recommend Froogle, which is proveded by Google.

    4. Re:among others by eap · · Score: 1
      So can anyone tell me who the among others are?

      I have never been there, but I have noticed The Discovery Channel Shop, which has retail locations sells some of the same stuff Thinkgeek has. They have remote controlled blimps and hovercrafts for one. You might try their website.

  16. Of all the stuff they could pimp by rinkjustice · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...and it's a "smoke-ring gun". I mean, if /. is gonna shamelessly promote their wares (hey, they got bills to pay like the rest of us), shouldn't the product being plugged at least have some practicality (smart drinks, hardware etc)?

    Maybe make a miscelaneous department for fluff stories like this.

  17. plus 6 AA batteries prices it $20 by thomasa · · Score: 1

    What is 6 AA batteries (batteries not
    included)? Five dollars?

  18. Make your own by Smidge204 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I saw 'Mr. Wizard' build one of these. Granted, not really as portable, but it worked.

    1 Medium size cardboard box (12" cube or better-long boxes with square bases are best)

    1 Smoke source. (Incense, fog solution, etc)

    1 sturdy plastic bag or thin sheet (to make a diaphram)

    Duct tape (Of course!)

    Cut 4" hole in base of box. Preferably in a "clean" edge (no flaps or seams). If you can't do that, make a bigger hole and cut the 4" circle in another peice of carbboard to make the orifice. Neatness counts!

    Completely remove the opposite end of the box, and cover it with the plastic sheet. Pull it tight and secure with duct tape. Make a good seal!

    Place smoke source in box (potential fire hazard? Be careful...) near the middle and wait for the box to fill up.

    Aim and slap the plastic sheet to "shoot" a ring of smoke.

    The kid on Mr Wizard was able to blow out a candle from about 15 feet away with this thing.
    =Smidge=

    1. Re:Make your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Even easier - take a 1 or 2 pound coffee can with a plastic lid. Cut off the bottom and put on a second plast lid with a 2" circular hole cut in it. Blow cigarette smoke into the can or figure out another smoke source. Whap the intact plastic lid hard with your fingers as if hitting a drum. You will get a smoke ring that rapidly travels across the room. And yes, you can put out a candle at 10 or 20 feet with it.

    2. Re:Make your own by heli0 · · Score: 1

      And if you paint the goatse man on the front you have just built the scariest halloween decoration EVER!

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    3. Re:Make your own by tunabomber · · Score: 2, Informative

      About 6 months ago, I went to a Frank Black concert in Albuquerque, and the opening act was "Scientific Phenomenolist" David Lovering. Most of the stuff he did were demos I remember my high school physics teacher doing, but the one thing that caught my eye was that he had constructed a giant smoke ring cannon out of a kick drum.
      The thing was hooked up to a big fog machine and could shoot rings a good 50 ft into the balcony, and by then they were 2-3 ft in diameter.
      I was really surprised that I'd never seen anything as cool as that at the raves I had been to.

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  19. Airzooka looks more fun by Daz3d · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Airzooka here looks a lot more fun, being able to fire invisible balls of air at people at around 20ft (& ruffle hair, etc) and it can do smoke rings too, IIRC. Check out the 'Airzooka action video' near the bottom :)

    1. Re:Airzooka looks more fun by enkidu · · Score: 1

      ThinkGeek has them also. I have one and I found the diaphram made of plastic too loud. It makes kind of a loud "PHWAPP" when you do a full power blast. To fix this (in true geek fashion) I modified the 'zooka. I disassembled the rear assembly, and replaced the plastic diaphram with a piece cut from a black T-shirt I never wore. Now, the blast is a little less powerful, but it makes a quiet "fwop". Don't have any measuring devices, but it's at least 3x quiter. Much more effective and much more fun.

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    2. Re:Airzooka looks more fun by finallyHasANickname · · Score: 1

      Well I, Mandark, have done the very same thing, emitting only 352.547 millifwops. Bwahahahaha.

  20. Better for Scaring the Cat: by CBNobi · · Score: 1

    An Airzooka.

    Granted, it's not as big of a deal as they make it, but it's more effective than a smoke ring.

    1. Re:Better for Scaring the Cat: by Torqued · · Score: 1

      The Airzooka looks pretty cool, but the Whamo Air Blaster was a better implementation of this concept, IMHO. I spent lots of time terrorizing our cats with that thing in the late 70's/early 80's.

    2. Re:Better for Scaring the Cat: by MegaHamsterX · · Score: 1

      Did anyone else notice they pulled many of the dangerous but fun toys off the store shelves in the late 80's.

      I remember those model rockets that were sold everywhere, I always bought them, then one day they all vanished except for a few private hobby shops, and I had a friend who ended up with third degree burns for being a bone head..

      The other one were those mega chemistry sets, the huge ones with what seemed like hundreds of bottles to make cool things, like neato toxic smoke, I filled the house with those vapors on many occasions (twitch-twitch).

      The final one were those lawn darts, tho they did provide ample evidence of darwin's theory with many a dart ending up stuck in bodies across the land, but they were cool anyhow.

      The slip and slides of death, where a dude obviously too big for it tried it out head first and had to piss in a bag from then on.

      I think the lesson here is these toys tought us that death and injury can be fun, what will the upcoming generations learn, especially with foam covered everything painted with lead free enamel, where's the paint chips to eat.

  21. woot by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: 1, Funny
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  22. Played with one by SamMichaels · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Friend of mine used to be the manager at Spencer Gifts...they started stocking these about a year and a half ago.

    I was yelled at quite often to stop blowing smoke rings at customers, at her cashiers, at her...and even at myself. Couldn't put the toy down.

    Smoke rings went for about 3 or 4 feet before they dissipated. Since I work in a club, I'm used to the smell of fog...and I'm one of the whackos who enjoy the smell of fog :)

    Get one for your home, your office, your car...everywhere. Your visitors will pick it up, start playing, and not be able to put it down. Some day you'll see smokeringjunkies.com from the addicts to this toy.

  23. Missing the point entirely by s20451 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "What more could you want for $20?"

    Awww, $20?? I wanted a peanut.
    With $20, you can buy many peanuts!
    Explain how!
    Money can be exchanged for goods and services.

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  24. Can it do clipper ships? by JThaddeus · · Score: 1

    It is cool but it's no Gandalff--only rings, no ships. Actually, one of the guys here has one--along with a air blaster and a rubber band machine gun. Serious toys in this shop (the company founder restores pipe organs and music boxes). I think that's why my wife thinks I can run all the errands or make all the daytime phone calls: This place hardly seems like work!

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  25. DIY Vortex Gun by istartedi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This reminds me of a DIY vortex gun I saw in a kids science comic thingy when I was like... 13 or something.

    Step 1. Get a sturdy cardboard box no more than 6 inches wide in any dimension. 6" by 6" square with 8-12" length is good. Something cylindrical like a Quaker Oats container might be even better.

    Step 2. Cut out one end and stretch a balloon over it. Firmly tape or otherwise fasten the balloon over the end.

    Step 3. (perhaps the trickiest part) Attach something to the center of the balloon so you can pull it back. IIRC, they suggested that you could use a brass notebook fastener and some tape to do this. The tricky part is not to tear the balloon.

    Step 4. Cut a circular hole in the middle of the other side. I want to say it should be about a 3rd the "diameter" of the box. Certainly no larger than that.

    To "fire" it, just pull back on the balloon and hold long enough for pressure to equalize (this happens almost instantly because the hole is pretty big). Then, release it in a SNAP! all at once.

    It's been a long time, but I think they promised a curious puff of air could be felt by people 10 or 20 feet away if you did it right.

    An afternoon of scrounging for parts, construction, and experimentation with your kids is probably a more valuable experience than just shelling out for a vortex gun with nasty smoke in it.

    For extra credit and to find out if your kids are mechanicly inclined, encourage them to come up with a handle/trigger mechanism for the thing so it can be pointed like a real gun.

    If your DIY version works, you can take the kids out for ice-cream and get some dry ice from the vendor. See if you can make your gun smoke with that. A fun afternoon and evening for the entire family!

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    1. Re:DIY Vortex Gun by Blofeld · · Score: 1

      See the ThinkGeek version, Airzooka, here

    2. Re:DIY Vortex Gun by spydir31 · · Score: 2, Informative

      btw, there's a link in the article, Make one it says.

    3. Re:DIY Vortex Gun by istartedi · · Score: 1

      Same deal with our neighbor's big V-8 non pollution-controlled cars back in the 70s. When they were burning oil they would occasionally blow smoke rings while warming up. The family had 3 sons and the father and sons were always working on cars. I envied the whole Home Improvement-like quality of that family. They paid the penalty for being Real Men (TM) though. All 3 sons inherited their father's early onset male pattern baldness. I swear I'm not making this up.

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    4. Re:DIY Vortex Gun by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 1

      I have one of these ( bought it at Terrific Scientific in Sydney, Au ). They're pretty cool, and a good way to demonstrate the self propagating vortex *except* for the fact that firing 'clear' air means the vortex is invisible.

      Some of them are curiously shipping without the self tapping screws driven through the handles ( or without screws at all, as in my case ), so make sure you check it before turning it over to Junior if you don't want him/her screaming about a broken toy ten minutes later.

      YLFI

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    5. Re:DIY Vortex Gun by finallyHasANickname · · Score: 1
      An afternoon of scrounging for parts, construction, and experimentation with your kids is probably a more valuable experience than just shelling out for a vortex gun with nasty smoke in it.

      Ah! Now I know who is to blame. It's you! It's all your fault! Now I'm adding "istartedi" to my list of scapegoats for the slow economy.

  26. Cheaper one by ModernGeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd just like to mention somewhere close to the top that you can get one cheaper here, and it is direct from the manufacturer.

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  27. They had them in the mid 1950s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    My Dad bought one of these when I was a kid. It used special smoke generating matches. A trigger operated hammer struck an internal rubber diaphram.
    see http://www.toytent.com/TrueReplica/4172.html

    I recently bought one on eBay but the diaphram is completely gone, but it shouldn't be too hard to fix. I've been looking for a good smoke source for it. I should check this one out.

  28. Battlebots! by More+Karma+Than+God · · Score: 2, Informative

    Make a one meter version of this, dump a fuel-air mixture into it, light it and knock over the other bots from across the ring.

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    1. Re:Battlebots! by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 1

      Actaully, i was just wondering what would happen if you filled it with an easy vaporizing inflammible liquid, lie gasoline or ether or somethign, and then shot it at a candle or ignited it at the muzzle. Would you get brief flame rings?

      Kids, dont try this at home. But if you do, keep me posted.

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    2. Re:Battlebots! by akedia · · Score: 1
      Hate to burst your bubble, but according to section 9.2.4 of the BattleBots Technical Regulations Version 3.1 (PDF file):

      Heat and fire cannot be used directly as weapons. This includes, but is not limited to:

      ...

      c. Flammable liquids such as gasoline, alcohol and MEK.

      d. Flammable gasses such as propane, butane and acetylene.

      e. High-temperature devices such as flame throwers or plasma torches.
      So, short answer, no.

      (I feel ashamed for being so geeky there...)
    3. Re:Battlebots! by More+Karma+Than+God · · Score: 1

      You arn't using the fuel-air mixture directly as a weapon, you're using it to produce a puff of air.

      In all seriousness I suspect that this would have little actual utility against a well-armored bot with a low center of gravity.

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  29. Re:This toy sucks by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ouch. If it stinks, then you can bet it's not going to impress women much. Besides, I don't think they have the same attraction to rings or holes that we do.

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  30. More fun with vortices- by echucker · · Score: 3, Informative

    Get an Airzooka. It shoots a harmless ball of air about 20-25 feet. Pretty cool for scaring cats off of TVs, blowing the co-worker's toupee off, or launching a fart at an unsuspecting party guest. Same price too - $20, including delivery by UPS ground. Color me a satisfied customer.

    1. Re:More fun with vortices- by RealBeanDip · · Score: 2, Funny

      "launching a fart at an unsuspecting party guest"

      If I see someone exhaling out their ass into an Airzooka, well, I'm just gonna have to beat them with a clue bat.

      Talk about socially unacceptable!

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  31. Glycol? by Combuchan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I find it interesting that Zero Toys would use glycol as the formula for the smoke solution, especially a cherry-scented concotion. Kids tend to equate cherries with stuff that tastes good, with perhaps disastrous results when we look at the defintion from wordnet:

    glycol
    n 1: a sweet but poisonous syrupy liquid used as an antifreeze
    and solvent [syn: {ethylene glycol}, {ethanediol}]

    Smells like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

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    1. Re:Glycol? by Random832 · · Score: 1

      Kids tend to equate cherries with stuff that tastes good when _i_ was a kid, "cherry flavored" meant "tastes like cough syrup".

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    2. Re:Glycol? by cfuse · · Score: 2, Funny

      It might smell like cherry, but I bet it tastes like ass.

    3. Re:Glycol? by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 1

      Tastes like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

    4. Re:Glycol? by Jade+E.+2 · · Score: 3, Informative
      From their FAQ:

      Q: What is in the fluid?
      A: A water based non-toxic liquid that is similar to the fluid used in special effects fog machines. The Fluid consists of Distilled Water, Glycerin (a USP kosher food additive) and Propylene Glycol (a USP kosher food additive ).

  32. What I find amusing.... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    What I find amusing is that the majority of +3 and up posts are commenting on how this is obviously an ad placement. I completely agree, and while I am upset about it, it certainly is Slashdot's perogative as to what they post in terms of stories. However, since there has been an overwhelmingly large number of complaints about this, will anything be done? Of course not! Have any of the higherups ever commented on this issue? Of course not! Will they ever? Of course not.

    As much as I hate how this happens, what recourse exists for us to get the changes made? None. O well, at least there are some other interesting stories.

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  33. Quick! by Zen+Programmer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Somebody get a hold of President Bush! We've found the smoking gun!

    1. Re:Quick! by mousse-man · · Score: 1

      Do you really mean they finally found the weapon of mass distraction?

    2. Re:Quick! by finallyHasANickname · · Score: 1

      I don't know what those bastards in Washington are telling you, but I say that it is not an actual smoking gun; it is a vortex-creating toy. And don't disparage me for being humorless. I get paid to be humorless. Sincerely, Hans Blix

  34. Hmm.... by Doppler00 · · Score: 1

    Do you think this guy Is really impressing anyone with this thing?

    "Hey laydies... look what I bought on ThinkGeek! Hey wait, come back!"

  35. You are probably thinking of the wrong glycol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Old" antifreeze was ethylene glycol, which was sweet poison.

    Most new antifreeze is propylene glycol, which doubles as a food and makeup additive (although just like every additive it has its share of detractors which swear it will kill us all) and is also used to generate smoke.

  36. Conflict of interest, not that users are confused by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Insightful
    New category needed ads.slashdot.org

    Agreed. What's particularly bad is that the editorial staff clearly recognizes the problem:

    Thinkgeek and Slashdot are both owned by VA Software.

    The issue I have is that they don't realize what the problem is. It's like they think the issue is readership not realizing thinkgeek is associated with slashdot. We don't have that problem when there's a blinking thinkgeek ad right above the story.

    Rather, the problem is that it's a plain and simple conflict of interest. OSDN trumpets slashdot as an "award winning news site", but slashdot editors continuously display zero journalistic integrities. Fact checking, not "reporting" about companies you accept advertising from, etc.

    If it were news about thinkgeek, the disclaimer would not only be appropriate, it would be necessary. This however, was entirely a product suck-up....complete with the linkage. All that was missing was a [add this to your cart and check out] link. The disclaimer is for when you think you need to disclaim to readers that there's a potential conflict of interest. The disclaimer does NOT justify posting blatant ads as legitimate news stories.

  37. more applications... by mboots · · Score: 1

    In reading up on vortex rings, I came across this page which has some interesting ideas for building vortex generators as well as some nifty (wierd?) applications. Most interesting is to power the vortex tube with a big loudspeaker, and control the size and spin of the smoke rings by sending it different shaped waveforms.

  38. At this point... by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 1

    At this point, I was glumly contemplating the task of trying to take pictures smoke rings while shooting them.

    How about, "At this point, I was contemplating getting out of my house and making some friends so they could take pictures of the smoke rings for me"

  39. ultimate office intimidation weapon by DdJ · · Score: 3, Funny

    My office-mate keeps a rifle that fires ping-pong balls in the office. I keep a Zero Fog Blaster. This means I always win in the intimidation battle.

    Why?

    I don't mind being pelted with ping-pong balls. But he absolutely can't stand to be subjected to the awful artificial cherry scent of the fog rings...

    1. Re:ultimate office intimidation weapon by rsm00th · · Score: 1

      LOL they do smell quite awfull!

  40. Re:What/Whos VA Software? Slashdot owned. by xSauronx · · Score: 1

    other things you should know: if you missed a story wait anywhere between 3 days and a year for the repost if you thought grammer would be professional and at least spell-checked...dont hold your breath

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  41. Smoke... Indeed. by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

    I'm one of those militant non-smokers Philip Morris warned you about. I live in Florida where smoking is outlawed in resturants. I don't allow people to smoke in my car. Your right to smoke stops where my right to clean air begins.

    This certainly it not a product I'd be interested in... However, if instead of producing smoke rings, it could be modified to produce a cigarette extinguishing vortex, it'd be quite useful. I'd love to have something I can use to point-and-click peoples' cigarettes out without the wet mess of a supersoaker.

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  42. Model Rockets by terrymr · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure model rockets were taken off the shelves for being dangerous ... rather than just lack of sales. Kids just want to play nintendo these days instead of getting out and flying rockets. Toys-r-us & Wal-mart still carry model rocket motors and smaller rockets.

    Check out my rocket page for some examples of current model rockets.

    1. Re:Model Rockets by MegaHamsterX · · Score: 1

      Well when I was a kid all the local hobby stores stopped carrying them, they might now, I'd say I've outgrown the smaller ones for sure.

      I bought a few copies of High Powered Rocketry and was going to get back into it, but after 9/11 I didn't want to be percieved as any sort of threat to anyone, the unfounded fear in others is understandable.

      I saw on your site this very issue is still being dealt with here.

      Really, this is a cool hobby, more slashdotters should get involved and maybe lend a hand in stopping these draconian laws from even being thought of.

      I'd hate to one day see that the chance to build and launch rockets into the skies is gone, especially for young kids.

      I learned to write one of my first "real" programs on a vic-20 with datasette just to figure out how high in the sky they went.

  43. Re:Conflict of interest, not that users are confus by cdrudge · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I tell you what. You go ahead and design a site, pay for the bandwidth, support a couple of million hits on a daily bases. At that point, then you can bitch and complain about your site maintaining journalistic integrity.

    Slashdot's editors are not journalists. Well, Roblimo would be, but Timothy, Taco, Hemos, etc. They repost news articles done by others. Journalistic integrity lies on the author of the article. The editors are there to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

    Besides, this really isn't news. It's a review. Many small manufactures link to reviews of their products. It's nothing new. So they are promoting an item. Who cares. If you don't like it, don't click on the link. Go turn off reviews in your preference. No one forces you to come here. You don't have to pay to get the content if you so choose.

  44. I always wanted one but my dad said NO ... by Tsu+Dho+Nimh · · Score: 1
    ... and now I can buy one.

    And I have three cats to test it on.

  45. Re: I don't care by Omnifarious · · Score: 1

    I think the heighth of journalistic integrity is plainly and simply stating your biases for all to see. That is all I want and all I need. If Slashdot becomes a site that largely carries stories that seem to be ads, I'll stop reading it because it won't be useful anymore.

    All this rot about journalistic integrity gets us our current news media, all of whom claim to be 'objective' while clearly being extremely biased in one way or another. Journalistic integrity is about saying who you are, where you're coming from, and letting the reader decide.

  46. Sissy! by UnassumingLocalGuy · · Score: 1

    Awww... c'mon. Smoke a cigar. It's not bad if you don't inhale. And if you start on cigars, you'll probably never move over to any other tobacco products. I rarely smoke cigars (basically only at parties to impress the ladies with my macho smoke rings.... sure.....) but I tried a cigarette today. Too weak, I might as well stick my head near the exhaust on my oven and inhale. Didn't taste a damn thing. Plus, cigars have the upside of being non-addicting (more or less).

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  47. I love mine! by dacetone · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I got one of these a few months ago, and it's been a lot of fun. I leave it on my coffee table, and it's a conversation piece (I guess it helps to have stoner friends). My cats hate it a lot, they tend to wrinkle up their noses and run away.

    I can't say that battery life has been a problem like he described, i've had the same set in since I got it. It doesn't push them with much force, but you can get better distance with practice. One thing i've found that helps the quality of the ring is to cover the smokehole with your hand while you pull the fog trigger, as if you don't, it will dribble smoke out. This produces thicker rings.

    Just don't try and use it in a room with a fan on, it will blow it right away. One thing that was neat about that was discovering the airflow patterns in my house, and which windows are really drafty.

    It's been more than $20 worth of fun, I think (just making your friends laugh like mine did is worth that) And no, I don't work for the company that makes or sells it, just an amused customer.

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  48. I got one for Christmas. by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 1

    The local Spencer's Gifts carried it. Don't know if they still do. It is an interesting contraption. But it definately has a novelty factor that can wear thin. I don't think I've used it since February? Really interesting to play with, though.

    PS: Some people will like the cherry scented smoke. Others will hate it. Animals seem to find it as a form of smelly attack.

    1. Re:I got one for Christmas. by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

      Animals seem to find it as a form of smelly attack.

      Don't see any dogs or cats sucking on cancer sticks, eh? Maybe animals aren't as dumb as they look. ;)

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  49. Re:Conflict of interest, not that users are confus by Daniel+Rutter · · Score: 1
    > This however, was entirely a product suck-up....complete with the linkage

    I'll admit that I deliberately submitted it that way in hopes of getting it posted (and it worked!). But in the review, I do mention that I bought my review Zero Blaster on eBay, cheaper than ThinkGeek sell it :-).

  50. Assuming there was a conflict.... by Mulletproof · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "The editors are there to seperate the wheat from the chaff."

    Oh, you really didn't just say that... Do you really want to recount the all too numerous number of hoaxes, spam headlines and just plain assnine stories that have made it to the front page with these so-called chaff seperating "editors" at the helm??? No, their work is more akin to strip-mining. They take stories that grab their attention and dump them wholesale onto this site with barely a cursorary background check at times.

    They aren't journalists and I can accept that. But even editors is too rich of a word for what they do. At most Slashdot is a hub where people post stories and the people who run it do the absolute minimum in their posting. In effect, everybody else does their job for them. Not that I have a problem with it, but lets overhype their job here.

    And to that other guy, it's only a conflict of intrests if you claim that your organization is some how unbiased or impartial in some way. To my knowledge, Slashdot has never claimed that and has every right to hype their own products on their own site. It doesn't exactly look the best when it comes to credibility, but then, neither do the dupes, spam and other crap that make the front page, so who am I to judge?

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  51. Re:Just Don't Read by happyhippy · · Score: 1
    The cheap whoring of this article makes me want SCO to win and sue the fuck out of every linux wanker.

    And every fucker who wrote saying they loved the piece of shit, over-priced gun, are declaring themselves as virgins.

  52. By the looks of those girls by Zen+Programmer · · Score: 1

    He was doing the right thing in scaring them off.

  53. Re:Conflict of interest, not that users are confus by Com2Kid · · Score: 1
    • The issue I have is that they don't realize what the problem is. It's like they think the issue is readership not realizing thinkgeek is associated with slashdot. We don't have that problem when there's a blinking thinkgeek ad right above the story.


    Oh read the freaking article, Dan has been posted to /. numerous times before, the article is EXTREMELY informative, DEFINITELY Nerdy, and downright COOL.

    Now if the /. EDITORS mentioned "and by the way, ThinkGeek sells this wonderful product as well!" THEN I would be bitching about integrity.

    As it is I would have checked Dansdata.com out next after /. anyways, so this just changed my order of reading.
  54. Polyethylene Glycol by LauraW · · Score: 1
    > glycol n 1: a sweet but poisonous syrupy liquid used as an antifreeze

    Not all glycols are poisonous, and some are even used in medical products. People having abdominal surgery or other procedures are sometimes required to clean out the plumbing first (a "bowel preparation" in the jargon) by drinking a gallon or so of polyethylene glycol the night before. They even have great flavors like cherry. You might even be able to use the stuff to make smoke rings.

    And I'm not saying how I know that.

  55. And someone actually enjoys this ? by bushboy · · Score: 1

    Wheee - lookie everyone, my gun that blows smoke rings ! - wheeee !

    What fun ! - hours and hours of fun, er, well, er - blowing smoke rings ! - whoooopeee - I don't have a life !

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  56. Now to one-up the other geeks... by krypt0s · · Score: 1

    Someone needs to make a gun that will fire smoke sailboats that will cruise through the center of the vastly less impressive smoke rings. Gandolf Blaster?

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  57. Perfect! by boer · · Score: 1

    As a frequent party goer, I'm constantly on the hunt for new gimmics to impress the laay-deees. And this device if anything should keep me on dates for the rest of the year. Thank you, Slashdot!

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  58. Re:Conflict of interest, not that users are confus by mrd_yaddayadda · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "I tell you what. You go ahead and design a site, pay for the bandwidth, support a couple of million hits on a daily bases. At that point, then you can bitch and complain about your site maintaining journalistic integrity."
    Don't be ridiculous. Going on that reasoning no one is allowed to complain about anything which they have not directly done themselves.
  59. Re:Conflict of interest, not that users are confus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Its an excellent point, and I think one that most of the complaining assholes on here seem to totally overlook.

    The costs of running Slashdot must be astronomical, and whatever methods it takes for them to fund the site i'd accept. If for whatever reason I DIDN'T like it, then i'd just go somewhere else - I wouldn't sit here bitching about it, like I knew how to do it much better.

    AC'd because of the trolls & flamers.

  60. Not working by TinoMNYY24 · · Score: 1

    I bought one of these things like 6 months ago, and after 2 weeks the primary firing trigger broke. I emaled thinkgeek twice, and no one ever responded. This is why the only thing I buy from thinkgeek is shirts, everything else I can find elsewhere. The gun was really awesome while it worked though.

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  61. Nice Fundraiser... by GeekDork · · Score: 1

    Now, that's a p(r)etty sly action Dan pulled there. Get a post through on slashdot (and crosslink it on your page), put a pointer towards your webhost on your page, PROFIT.

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  62. Bah! Vapour-Ware! by Lispy · · Score: 1

    Sorry, couldn't resist, old jokes are best.
    Could have also gone for:
    smoke and mirrors

  63. Re:google swing by VJTod · · Score: 1

    By putting google links on slashdot are you inadvertantly affecting the Google Timeline?

    At the end of the year, the Google Timeline will show huge a spike in these three picture searches on August 10 - but only for a day - maybe two. Then the searches will dwindle back to normal.

    Will the Site Referrer be availalble to analysts? Or will analysts be stuck with trying to figure out what major news event has linked these three honeys?

  64. Re: I don't care by borgboy · · Score: 1

    Actually, the "heighth" of journalistic integrity might begin by getting rid of that literary lisp.

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  65. Re: I don't care by Omnifarious · · Score: 1

    Yes, you noticed a spelling error. Congratulations. I should've dropped an 'e'.

  66. Re:Smoke... Indeed. by scp_1 · · Score: 1

    I'd love to have something I can use to point-and-click peoples' cigarettes out without the wet mess of a supersoaker.

    Easy enough, fill it with ethanol or your favorite flammable vapor. No cherry smell, no pretty smoke rings, but it should be clear when it reaches the cigarette.

  67. Re:This toy sucks by nagrahovyn · · Score: 1

    Soooo... Who wants to invent the "One Blaster"? :D

  68. 20 dolla?! by caveat · · Score: 1

    damn, what the hell are you getting? last time i spent 20 on that much, it had a pebble in it...

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  69. Gotta praise Daniel's sense of humor by GPS+Pilot · · Score: 1

    And you can, in time, make the place look like a Rastafarian rumpus room and smell like Strawberry Shortcake's sock drawer.

    Funniest line I've read all year!

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  70. Re:Supporting slashdot in any way, bad! by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

    aah, I see this guy's mistake. this site is selling both the one tg is selling AND a lower end model. the $16.95 one is the lower end one.