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Japanese Deploying Powered Exoskeletons for Elderly

FoeNyx writes "The AFP is reporting that 30 Tokyo firms have planned to set up a joint-venture in next spring to market an 'exo-skeleton type power assist system' named HAL (Hybrid Assistive Leg) developed by Yoshiyuki Sankai, professor and engineer at the Sankai Lab, a Cybernetics specialized Laboratory of the Tsukuba University. When will the next generation be available?" The elderly with their exoskeletons and the bionic nurses will make quite a sight at Japanese nursing homes.

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  1. Good News / Bad News by JamesSharman · · Score: 5, Funny

    The good news is this will give far more mobility to the elderly.

    The bad news is that the computer runs Linux** and as such the elderly will need to pay SCO $699* every time they go for a walk

    *Introductory price only, increases after October 15th, 2003
    **This is a joke, it probably doesn't

    1. Re:Good News / Bad News by cerberusss · · Score: 5, Funny
      the computer runs Linux
      It'll be quite a sight when someone hacks it and takes command. Imagine a 80-year-old Japanese lady running at 80 mph through Tokio, all the while randomly kicking through people.
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    2. Re:Good News / Bad News by tiled_rainbows · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, thae bad news is that it doesn't have any weapons and can't turn into a fighter plane.

    3. Re:Good News / Bad News by brakk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or they can't combine several of them to create a bigger more powerful robot.

      Nobody would dare mess with a nursing home after that.

    4. Re:Good News / Bad News by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny
      The good news is this will give far more mobility to the elderly.

      The bad news is this isn't what I was led to expect from Gundam, RoboTech, etc. I expected bright-eyed nubile women, not crotchety old geezers.

      Of course, it does give me something to look forward to in my old age :-]

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    5. Re:Good News / Bad News by smatt-man · · Score: 5, Funny

      The $699 man, we can recompile him, we have the technology.

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    6. Re:Good News / Bad News by ozbird · · Score: 5, Funny

      It'll be quite a sight when someone hacks it and takes command.

      "It's the wrong trousers Gromit, and they've gone wrong!" (The villain, Feathers McGraw, looks rather like an evil version of Tux...)

    7. Re:Good News / Bad News by Mr.+Bad+Example · · Score: 4, Funny

      Imagine a 80-year-old Japanese lady running at 80 mph through Tokio, all the while randomly kicking through people.

      That'd be pretty cool. What worries me, though, is what'll happen when the inevitable naughty tentacles show up.

  2. Already Done here by Gothmolly · · Score: 5, Funny

    As seen here, Dr. Stephen Hawking, one of the smartest people in the world, has already perfected an exoskeleton for the disabled.

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  3. There is no way in hell... by ihummel · · Score: 4, Funny

    that I would buy any computerized/electronic product named HAL. Especially if it were going to go on my body.

    1. Re:There is no way in hell... by fishybell · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dave: I think I'll go to the park. HAL: I'm sorry. I can't let you do that.

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  4. Ob (someone's got to say it) by llamalicious · · Score: 4, Funny

    Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto.

    *ducks*

    Wild though, they envision pull-on exoskeletons in the future... but even if they could reduce the bulk another 50% it'd still be amazing.

    I've always wondered how fast/accurately they skeletons react to human initiated/controlled motion, say, I decide to start lifting my left leg. Well, if I'm walking, I don't want to lift it all the way, simply enough to move it forward a small amount to prepare for the same with the right leg. Do these skeletons sense resistance to movement and stop/switch directions? (I put a little force downward to let the exo-leg know I'm not doing the can-can?) /needs coffee.

    1. Re:Ob (someone's got to say it) by paroneayea · · Score: 4, Funny

      Perhaps soon enough we will be able to do away with the elderly, and replace them with these robotic suits!

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  5. Gread idea, but... by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I for one think this is a great idea. Many people have an injury, and can not walk for awhile and then its game over for them. If I'm not mistaken this is why nobody wants a broken hip, because the hip is the least of the worries. All of the complications from it and the fact that you will be in bed and not mobile and everything.

    A system like they are developing can have huge consequences, not only on the person's physical abilities, but also on their mental well being. It's no fun to live in a bed, and have to have others help you to do anything and everything except sleep.

    Now if only normal people could afford such a beast...

  6. I , for one, by Richthofen80 · · Score: 4, Funny

    welcome our robotically assisted elderly masters!

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  7. What I want to know is by TerryAtWork · · Score: 4, Funny

    When will one of them put on spandex and fight crime with one?

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  8. This can only lead to trouble... by Colin+Walsh · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Japanese should know better than to give the elderly access to powered exoskeletons.

    -Colin

  9. Oblig. Simpsons Ref. by handy_vandal · · Score: 4, Funny


    "One thing is certain: the exoskeletons will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new geriatric overlords ...."

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  10. The Wrong Trousers? by koniosis · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone reminded of the wrong trousers?

    Wallace And Gromit

    Imagine one of those exoskeletons going on a mad rampage with a pensioner

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  11. What about balance? by Syre · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One major problem older people have is balance.

    Balance is both a neurological and muscular issue. To balance you need:

    - A set of clear inputs from your feet telling you about the surface you're trying to stand on, its angles, its texture, etc.
    - Inputs from your inner ear, telling you what angle you are standing at.
    - Other proprioception to accurately judge joint angles.
    - The ability to integrate these inputs.
    - Output to your muscles to maintain balance, especially while walking or when stepping onto something uneven.

    This exoskeleton appears to amplify only a few muscle movements. Those connected with balance requiring strength in the ankle joints, the feet, etc. as well as angular motions of the knees don't appear to be covered in this device. Nor does it appear to help with balance.

    For such a device to be really practical for disabled elderly, it needs to be able to balance on its own. I'm sure that's coming eventually but this device doesn't appear to be it.

  12. This doesn't solve the biggest problem.... by Faeton · · Score: 5, Interesting
    that elderly people have, which is falling (this might surprise some of you). Elderly people falling is the *leading* cause of injury death (so heart attacks don't count) and severe injuries to old folks. Yes, gravity is the worst enemy for senior citizens.

    But this exo-skeleton does nothing really to solve that problem. In fact, it can even make the falling problem even more severe, by allowing people that have lost their sense of balance to walk. Just like the fact that some old folks shouldn't be driving, some should not be walking, for their own safety.

  13. ...in nursing homes by Bushcat · · Score: 5, Interesting
    ...will make quite a sight at Japanese nursing homes.

    Well this is exactly the problem. To slightly overstate the situation, there are no nursing homes in Japan. By which, I mean there are no transitional communities for the aged, no communities for the aged which retain a certain independence and dignity, nothing, nada, zilch. The traditional Japanese approach to the aged is that the oldest daughter in the family looks after the parents. Right now, the system is going titsup.com faster than you would believe because, firstly, all the daughters lived at home and delayed marrying as long as possible because their disposable income far exceeds what they can expect as a newlywed (there are entire cruise lines in Japan targeting women only), and secondly when they do marry, they move away from home and rarely return.

    There's no sensible infrastructure for looking after the aged in Japan. There are an infinite number of token gestures, such as buttons at train stations so staff will rush to place a small ramp on the platform so a chairbound person can get on, all trains have a seat-free area for a wheelchair, but there is nothing that offers older people the ability to live at home for as long as possible and then transition to a managed facility.

    To cope with this, industry is targeting older people partly because it is a growth market, and partly as a defensive survival tactic since the birthrate continues to decline. This can be seen in a range of products, such as hot water pots (ubiquitous in Japan) that phone home when the usage pattern changes, and small robotic pets that don't do a great deal but offer comfort and, again, have the ability to detect changes in usage patterns and transmit a warning.

    I figure building exoskeletons for everyone that needs one in Japan is probably cheaper than building the infrastructure everyone thought they were paying for with their compulsory pension fees.

    To witter on further and doom myself to be off-topic, consider this:

    A lady in an aged facility has a problem with her stomach. The facility has a doctor on call, who has no skill in that area.

    A family member decides a consultation is needed, so arranges for the lady to get scanned and have followup treatment, since stomach cancer is endemic in Japan.

    The facility can't accept that, and insists the lady is removed from the facility 24 hours before any consultation not arranged by their own doctor and returned at least 24 hours after the consultation, to protect the dignity of the doctor.

    Well, color me unimpressed, but if manufacturers in Japan make exoskeletons, emotion-surrogate robots, kitchen equipment that monitors daily patterns and anything else like that, it's fine by me, no matter how many westerners snigger.

  14. Balance might be an issue by The+Tyro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Loss of balance and muscular weakness seem to be the major factors I've seen in elderly hip fractures... that and frank syncope (loss of consciousness). This might help with the latter, but balance might still be up the the individual's own vestibular and proprioceptive systems. If you experienced syncope, I doubt this contraption would hold you up.

    You're quite correct regarding the complications. As far as hip fractures go, most orthopedists advocate agressive surgical repair of those injuries, with pinning/surgical fixation of some, and outright joint replacement for those that cannot be pinned (depends on the location and type of fracture). This is largely due to the risk of Thromboembolic disease (Deep Venous Thrombosis and Pulmonary Embolus) from prolonged immobilization and bed rest. Years ago, bed rest was the standard therapy for broken hips... God only knows how many people died as a result of that therapy (was thought at the time to be the best treatment... thank God for medical progress).

    The other question with these devices is how much they would lead to deconditioning of elderly patients. Exercise really IS good for you, and keeps your muscles strong through stimulus and use... anything that isn't used enough WILL atrophy. That's one of the reasons for "rehab" centers that have grown up, primarily to act as a bridge between hospitalization and home. Some elderly patients are so deconditioned after a long hospital stay (eg. for pneumonia or urinary tract infection) that they require physical therapy and reconditioning before they are able to go home and function. This device might lead people to become totally dependent upon it.

    To say nothing of the fact that it probably wouldn't help the extremely heavy patients. I regularly see 400 to 600 lb patients in my ER (takes half my staff, myself included, just to get them into a bed... often two ambulance crews get called to their homes just to get them to the hospital).

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  15. Re:Bad Idea by phurley · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Am I the only one who thinks this is a bad idea?
    I doubt you are the only one, but I am proud to not be in your company. I will avidly search out medical and mechanical advantage to increase my life span and ability - because of my sense of self worth. Time will defeat my flesh and I will die, but I will not give up without a fight.
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  16. Social commentary by Chagatai · · Score: 4, Informative
    Sligtly OT, I know, but Roujin Z was actually a witty social commentary on several factors in Japan. First, it criticized the social atmosphere in Japan where the elderly are increasingly being dumped by their families to caretakers and set aside to die slowly. However, compared to the number of convalescent homes in the US, the Japanese are still far more respective to their elderly than Americans overall. Think Grandpa Simpson.

    Second, it criticized the government and its lackluster attitude. This is an increasingly common theme in Anime and Japanese movies as people are becoming more irritated at their government, also illustrated in other well-known shows like Akira and Bubblegum Crisis. Wouldn't you be upset if your government had several trillion dollars in debt and an interest rate less than two percent? Oh, wait...

    Lastly, it also showed the gregarious overuse of technology as a means to solve all social ills. The bed that houses the "test" elderly man is designed to cater to his every need and technically keep him going without human interaction (though it is mentioned that he could communicate with other elderly via the bed's comm system). And, in case of nuclear attack, the bed will seal itself in concrete permanently.

    Altogether, Roujin Z was a funny film and a good satire. My favorite part is when the bed assimilates the Daibutsu (Giant Buddha) and goes for a walk to the hospital.

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