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Japanese Deploying Powered Exoskeletons for Elderly

FoeNyx writes "The AFP is reporting that 30 Tokyo firms have planned to set up a joint-venture in next spring to market an 'exo-skeleton type power assist system' named HAL (Hybrid Assistive Leg) developed by Yoshiyuki Sankai, professor and engineer at the Sankai Lab, a Cybernetics specialized Laboratory of the Tsukuba University. When will the next generation be available?" The elderly with their exoskeletons and the bionic nurses will make quite a sight at Japanese nursing homes.

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  1. Good News / Bad News by JamesSharman · · Score: 5, Funny

    The good news is this will give far more mobility to the elderly.

    The bad news is that the computer runs Linux** and as such the elderly will need to pay SCO $699* every time they go for a walk

    *Introductory price only, increases after October 15th, 2003
    **This is a joke, it probably doesn't

    1. Re:Good News / Bad News by cerberusss · · Score: 5, Funny
      the computer runs Linux
      It'll be quite a sight when someone hacks it and takes command. Imagine a 80-year-old Japanese lady running at 80 mph through Tokio, all the while randomly kicking through people.
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    2. Re:Good News / Bad News by tiled_rainbows · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, thae bad news is that it doesn't have any weapons and can't turn into a fighter plane.

    3. Re:Good News / Bad News by zzztkf · · Score: 2, Funny

      We will need to re-define what the word "traffic accident" means that day. Even pedestrian way will not be safe.

    4. Re:Good News / Bad News by brakk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or they can't combine several of them to create a bigger more powerful robot.

      Nobody would dare mess with a nursing home after that.

    5. Re:Good News / Bad News by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny
      The good news is this will give far more mobility to the elderly.

      The bad news is this isn't what I was led to expect from Gundam, RoboTech, etc. I expected bright-eyed nubile women, not crotchety old geezers.

      Of course, it does give me something to look forward to in my old age :-]

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    6. Re:Good News / Bad News by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 2, Funny

      Note: SCO license is a joke too.

    7. Re:Good News / Bad News by smatt-man · · Score: 5, Funny

      The $699 man, we can recompile him, we have the technology.

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    8. Re:Good News / Bad News by ozbird · · Score: 5, Funny

      It'll be quite a sight when someone hacks it and takes command.

      "It's the wrong trousers Gromit, and they've gone wrong!" (The villain, Feathers McGraw, looks rather like an evil version of Tux...)

    9. Re:Good News / Bad News by Mr.+Bad+Example · · Score: 4, Funny

      Imagine a 80-year-old Japanese lady running at 80 mph through Tokio, all the while randomly kicking through people.

      That'd be pretty cool. What worries me, though, is what'll happen when the inevitable naughty tentacles show up.

    10. Re:Good News / Bad News by brakk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      VOLTRON!!!!!

    11. Re:Good News / Bad News by togtog · · Score: 2, Funny

      HELP I'M RUNNING! AND I CAN'T STOP!

      *thud clunk thud clunk thud clunk thud clunk thud clunk thud clunk thud clunk thud clunk thud clunk thud clunk *

    12. Re:Good News / Bad News by Rethcir · · Score: 2, Informative

      What about the most underrated american action cartoon of all time, ExoSquad? God I loved that show back in the day. (don't worry, i was in 8th grade)

  2. hal.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    open the podbay doors hal.

  3. Already Done here by Gothmolly · · Score: 5, Funny

    As seen here, Dr. Stephen Hawking, one of the smartest people in the world, has already perfected an exoskeleton for the disabled.

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  4. There is no way in hell... by ihummel · · Score: 4, Funny

    that I would buy any computerized/electronic product named HAL. Especially if it were going to go on my body.

    1. Re:There is no way in hell... by fishybell · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dave: I think I'll go to the park. HAL: I'm sorry. I can't let you do that.

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  5. Havoc by te+amo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now the elderly don't even need cars to kill people. They have killer robot suits! ...To the farmer's market, Esther!

  6. Ob (someone's got to say it) by llamalicious · · Score: 4, Funny

    Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto.

    *ducks*

    Wild though, they envision pull-on exoskeletons in the future... but even if they could reduce the bulk another 50% it'd still be amazing.

    I've always wondered how fast/accurately they skeletons react to human initiated/controlled motion, say, I decide to start lifting my left leg. Well, if I'm walking, I don't want to lift it all the way, simply enough to move it forward a small amount to prepare for the same with the right leg. Do these skeletons sense resistance to movement and stop/switch directions? (I put a little force downward to let the exo-leg know I'm not doing the can-can?) /needs coffee.

    1. Re:Ob (someone's got to say it) by lovebyte · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've always wondered how fast/accurately they skeletons react to human initiated/controlled motion

      Grandpa to grandma: Come on! Let's put our exo-skeletons and have high-speed sex!

      Scary, but I would not mind seeing the movie....

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    2. Re:Ob (someone's got to say it) by hackstraw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not to be cruel or anything. But what has gotten into Americans/Japanese about this irrational fear of dying and the desire to be breathing (not necessarily alive) for incredibly long periods of time.

      If you had your brand new exoskeleton, what would that give you? Are you going to go to work, climb a mountain, ride a bike, drive a car, have children? At most it will give you the freedom to get out of a chair and get a glass of water, go to the bathroom, or whatever. If that was an improvement to my life and this was as good as it was going to get, I'd just as soon checkout.

      The eskimo had older people in thier societies as well. When they got to an age where thier wisdom, skills, etc were of no value to the society, it was understood that the older person would take a walk on the ice and go to sleep, and not wake up.

      Sheesh, what is next, cryogenically freezing people so they can come back later on? Oh, nevermind.

    3. Re:Ob (someone's got to say it) by paroneayea · · Score: 4, Funny

      Perhaps soon enough we will be able to do away with the elderly, and replace them with these robotic suits!

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    4. Re:Ob (someone's got to say it) by Zach+Fine · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to be cruel or whatever, but what has gotten into Americans/Japanese about this irrational fear of dying and the desire to keep their teeth in good condition as they age.

      Yeah if you brush your teeth three times a day, maybe your teeth will stay with you until you're 90. So what? Are you going to bother to eat chocolates when your 80? Will it make you young enough for me to not tease you about your incontinence? No of course not.

      The people in some other culture more wise than ours had old people too. And let me tell you, they were more natural about stuff and didn't have this fear of going to pot. They lost their teeth at 60 and died before 70. Those were the days.

      Sheesh, back when I was in school, I didn't have that irrational fear of getting bad grades, so I didn't study and failed, just like we were meant to do.

      On a more serious note, I can't understand how the poster to whom I'm responding could be serious in his/her criticisms of an invention that will allow old folk to have greater mobility and yes do more activities in their later years. This is about quality of life, not a life-extension.

    5. Re:Ob (someone's got to say it) by Shawn+Baumgartner · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Its all about keeping ahead of death until the situation can be improved. Medical science is flying and crazy new shit comes out every other month. Sure, there's not a whole lot that can be done to allow a 90 year old to look and feel 30. Yet. But there may be, so in the meantime I'll take any innovation, such as an exoskeleton that will help keep me from busting my head open, as a means of keeping just a step or two ahead of death in the hopes that I can delay long enough to get a real improvement that'll score me a few more quality years. Alive, I can still fight for a better future. Dead, I can only decompose.

      And yes, I will get cryogenically frozen if the opportunity should be available when I die. The narrow odds for survival offered by cryogenics are still far better than the impossibility of survival guaranteed by decomposition, cremation, or taxidermy.

  7. Beware of the drunk :) by Zemran · · Score: 2, Funny

    I want one of these to get me home when I am wasted :) Why do I have to wait until I am too old to enjoy it?

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    1. Re:Beware of the drunk :) by GlamdringLFO · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's like that artificial intelligence they put in those sneakers. You know, Smart Shoes they call them. No matter how blind drunk you were, they'd always walk you home. Problem is, one day they got tired of always getting kicked around. Wanted to see the world. But they kind of went nuts...stole my car and drove away right quick, stomping right on the pedal as they do. Problem is, they couldn't steer, what with no hands and all. So the car came to a bridge and went right over the side. They fished them out of the river 2 days later. I was so distraught...I loved those shoes...all the good times, in the bar, going for walks along the beach. I was so depressed. What had happened to them now? I finally went to the priest, looking for help. He told me that I didn't have anything to worry about. You see, as it turns out, shoes have souls.

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  8. Big cultural differences between us and the Japane by Hairy_Potter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    se.

    They like to keep everything in human form, the Asimo and now these exoskeletons.

    While, in the US, we put our infirm, fat and aged on scooters and wheel chairs, like rascals and hover-rounds.

    Then again, if this works, maybe we can start seeing late night infomercials about getting medicaid to pay for your exo-skeleton.

  9. Holy crap! by jwriney · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Robo-Grandma Vs. Godzilla", coming to theatres near you...

    --riney

    1. Re:Holy crap! by RLW · · Score: 2, Funny

      Today in the news: a roving band of exoskeleton-blue hairs held up a convenience store. In addition to taking all the cash they could nab, two of the perps were seen carrying off a row of shelves full of hair care products and over the counter medications. As an odd side note the only injury occurred after one of the robo-bandits instructed a by-stander to stop slouching. When the by-stander didn't respond he received a sharp rap across the back of his hand. He was later quoted as saying "That really hurt. I didn't think granny could hit so hard."

      Haha.. you fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is: Never get involved in a land war in Asia. Only slightly less well know is this: Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!
      - Vizzini

  10. Gread idea, but... by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I for one think this is a great idea. Many people have an injury, and can not walk for awhile and then its game over for them. If I'm not mistaken this is why nobody wants a broken hip, because the hip is the least of the worries. All of the complications from it and the fact that you will be in bed and not mobile and everything.

    A system like they are developing can have huge consequences, not only on the person's physical abilities, but also on their mental well being. It's no fun to live in a bed, and have to have others help you to do anything and everything except sleep.

    Now if only normal people could afford such a beast...

    1. Re:Gread idea, but... by ultraw · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Keep in mind, that the skeletion only aids the movement. It is not intended to replace broken bones (and/or other parts). The human skeletion still carries the weight of the human (plus the backpack with a computer, a battery pack, cooling fans,...)

      Although I guess that it can easily adopted to support broken limbs...

      Here, more than ever: "a small step for (a old) man,..."

  11. We can rebuild him... by henbane · · Score: 3, Funny
    Better, stronger, faster....

    sound

  12. I , for one, by Richthofen80 · · Score: 4, Funny

    welcome our robotically assisted elderly masters!

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  13. Re:Look out, it's Ultra Old Man! by 5.11Climber · · Score: 2, Funny

    Translation:

    Rook! Urtra Ord Man is fighting Mecha Ord Rady! Here comes Gojiro, we must Free!

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  14. What I want to know is by TerryAtWork · · Score: 4, Funny

    When will one of them put on spandex and fight crime with one?

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  15. Power assisted braces by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So what? This stuff exists, and has existed for a while.

    Just because this thing has wireless lan built in (for some reason? tracking by nurses?) doesn't make it all that new.

    Frankly if you cant get around with regular (unpowered) braces, you're probably going to find more mobility from a wheelchair.

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  16. This can only lead to trouble... by Colin+Walsh · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Japanese should know better than to give the elderly access to powered exoskeletons.

    -Colin

  17. Oblig. Simpsons Ref. by handy_vandal · · Score: 4, Funny


    "One thing is certain: the exoskeletons will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new geriatric overlords ...."

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  18. The Wrong Trousers? by koniosis · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone reminded of the wrong trousers?

    Wallace And Gromit

    Imagine one of those exoskeletons going on a mad rampage with a pensioner

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  19. Re:I am Glad by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Japan has always been the country of "embrace and extend". They didnt invent the radio, they just refined it. They didnt invent the microchip. They didnt invent the automobile, they just learned how to make them as efficiently as possible (a necessity after pissing all their resources away during WWII).

    They did invent the hello kitty vibrator, but that's another story.

    Japans a fine country with a lot of resourceful folk, but people tend to overestimate their technocracy. They came up with AIBO, we put men on the moon (and brought them back home safely), and the research involved lead directly or indirectly to over 80,000 consumer products.

    That said, they're at it again. They took leg braces and added actuators. I cant imagine who would prefer slowly lumbering around like a mecha-frankenstein to a wheelchair.

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  20. We are here to protect you by Thoguth · · Score: 2

    Grandma is protected. Grandma has gone down the stairs.

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  21. What about balance? by Syre · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One major problem older people have is balance.

    Balance is both a neurological and muscular issue. To balance you need:

    - A set of clear inputs from your feet telling you about the surface you're trying to stand on, its angles, its texture, etc.
    - Inputs from your inner ear, telling you what angle you are standing at.
    - Other proprioception to accurately judge joint angles.
    - The ability to integrate these inputs.
    - Output to your muscles to maintain balance, especially while walking or when stepping onto something uneven.

    This exoskeleton appears to amplify only a few muscle movements. Those connected with balance requiring strength in the ankle joints, the feet, etc. as well as angular motions of the knees don't appear to be covered in this device. Nor does it appear to help with balance.

    For such a device to be really practical for disabled elderly, it needs to be able to balance on its own. I'm sure that's coming eventually but this device doesn't appear to be it.

  22. Fast and the furious by geekmetal · · Score: 2, Funny
    With the equipment, the user can walk at a speed of four kilometres (2.5 miles) per hour with little physical exertion and avoid the jerky stop-go moves of ordinary robots.

    Yay! We can now have better races, those damn wheelchairs were no fun!

    But seriously this is an amazing thing worth applauding and encouraging.

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  23. New powers by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 2, Funny

    He's able to complain to the waiter faster than ever before, he's more powerful than a freshly charged "Rascal" scooter, his ability to write letters complaining to the newspaper editor is incredible. Watch out Miami Florida, here he comes.

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  24. Grandma's supposed to wear a backpack? by thentil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, sure - now grandma will need someone to get her in and out of the backpack/lifting system ... how much does that backpack weigh, anyhow? Her back is bad enough already...

  25. This doesn't solve the biggest problem.... by Faeton · · Score: 5, Interesting
    that elderly people have, which is falling (this might surprise some of you). Elderly people falling is the *leading* cause of injury death (so heart attacks don't count) and severe injuries to old folks. Yes, gravity is the worst enemy for senior citizens.

    But this exo-skeleton does nothing really to solve that problem. In fact, it can even make the falling problem even more severe, by allowing people that have lost their sense of balance to walk. Just like the fact that some old folks shouldn't be driving, some should not be walking, for their own safety.

  26. Bad Idea by nycsubway · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Am I the only one who thinks this is a bad idea? There comes a point when you can augment the human body so much. Especially when you augment it to the point of replacing it entirely. For people who actually have a sense of self worth, I for one, would be devestated to see that someone wanted to replace my body with a machine.

    When I become old and frail, I hope I can live with the dignity that all people should have at some point in their lives. Especially when they are getting old.

    1. Re:Bad Idea by phurley · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Am I the only one who thinks this is a bad idea?
      I doubt you are the only one, but I am proud to not be in your company. I will avidly search out medical and mechanical advantage to increase my life span and ability - because of my sense of self worth. Time will defeat my flesh and I will die, but I will not give up without a fight.
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  27. Oblig. Story about military use by aliens · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here

    I remember Popular Science(I think) doing a piece on an exoskeleton that would give soliders the ability to lift heavy objects etc. with ease. Not sure if this is the same.

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  28. RE: What about balance by koniosis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As slashdot has reported before the iBOT is Very good at balancing, you can sit in it and it'll hold you up right all by itself, quite impressive. If they can do it with an iBOT theres nothing to say they can't do it with this. Although working with wheels is a lot easier than an exoskeleton. Its just a mathmatics in the end and whether the skeleton can respond fast enough. Interresting point, I look forward to seeing how well it balances.

    Also checkout Asimo which shows brillant balance technology, being able to stand on one leg and compensate if its pushed.

    iBOT

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  29. Re:Big cultural differences between us and the Jap by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But the wheelchairs, scooters, and rascals are MUCH more practical.

    Falling can be catastrophic to an elderly person, with brittle bones and less ability to react to minimize the fall. I can only imagine how much worse it will be to fall with another 75 lbs of batteries and gizmos strapped to your back.

    Another cultural difference (I'm not japanese, nor have I been there but know some who have - correct me if wrong) is the proliferation of highrises and whatnot. In such a small country, much of the construction is going up and up.

    While america is sprawled out and (for the most part) easy to make accessible to wheelchairs, perhaps the ability to get up and down stairs is more practical in japan?

    Or perhaps this is just another goony inventors idea that wont go anywhere.

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  30. ...in nursing homes by Bushcat · · Score: 5, Interesting
    ...will make quite a sight at Japanese nursing homes.

    Well this is exactly the problem. To slightly overstate the situation, there are no nursing homes in Japan. By which, I mean there are no transitional communities for the aged, no communities for the aged which retain a certain independence and dignity, nothing, nada, zilch. The traditional Japanese approach to the aged is that the oldest daughter in the family looks after the parents. Right now, the system is going titsup.com faster than you would believe because, firstly, all the daughters lived at home and delayed marrying as long as possible because their disposable income far exceeds what they can expect as a newlywed (there are entire cruise lines in Japan targeting women only), and secondly when they do marry, they move away from home and rarely return.

    There's no sensible infrastructure for looking after the aged in Japan. There are an infinite number of token gestures, such as buttons at train stations so staff will rush to place a small ramp on the platform so a chairbound person can get on, all trains have a seat-free area for a wheelchair, but there is nothing that offers older people the ability to live at home for as long as possible and then transition to a managed facility.

    To cope with this, industry is targeting older people partly because it is a growth market, and partly as a defensive survival tactic since the birthrate continues to decline. This can be seen in a range of products, such as hot water pots (ubiquitous in Japan) that phone home when the usage pattern changes, and small robotic pets that don't do a great deal but offer comfort and, again, have the ability to detect changes in usage patterns and transmit a warning.

    I figure building exoskeletons for everyone that needs one in Japan is probably cheaper than building the infrastructure everyone thought they were paying for with their compulsory pension fees.

    To witter on further and doom myself to be off-topic, consider this:

    A lady in an aged facility has a problem with her stomach. The facility has a doctor on call, who has no skill in that area.

    A family member decides a consultation is needed, so arranges for the lady to get scanned and have followup treatment, since stomach cancer is endemic in Japan.

    The facility can't accept that, and insists the lady is removed from the facility 24 hours before any consultation not arranged by their own doctor and returned at least 24 hours after the consultation, to protect the dignity of the doctor.

    Well, color me unimpressed, but if manufacturers in Japan make exoskeletons, emotion-surrogate robots, kitchen equipment that monitors daily patterns and anything else like that, it's fine by me, no matter how many westerners snigger.

    1. Re:...in nursing homes by DenkiRaiden · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Having volunteered weekily in nursing homes across central Japan for several years, as well as having additional social work experience with multi-generational Japanese families, I can really relate to what Bushcat is saying here.

      Technologically, exoskeletons I think are cool. However, this particular need has been greatly increased if not caused by cultural negligence. If you get out of Tokyo, and head up into the Yamanaka sato (rural mountains), you will find yourself surrounded by legions of shriveled up and crippled elderly. This is primarily dietary and vitamin deficiency based. Imagine trying to walk while curled in the fetal position, then realize they can never lift themselves higher than that. Yet they have the most beautiful smiles always.

      Outside N.America and Europe, there is little history of collective social organizations or public welfare. This has been nearly exclusively left to the families to manage. Theoretically, it works as long as the family is able to meet the medical and financial demands.

      However, with post WW2 globalization trends, more de-emphasis has been placed on the family, with official government promotion of the 'unfettered' life, and putting mom and dad in 'the happy place'. These places for the most part are run like government factories where people line up waiting to 'graduate'.

      While this technology development is cool in its own right, it won't resolve bone density issues, musclear degeneration, or the other environmental and dietary ailments. This type of 'solution' is endemic to Japanese beaureaucracy, in that it is much more agreeable to patch things than fix the system. Everyone knows it sucks, everyone knows its wrong, but don't rock the boat and we'll pretend that the problem will go away. By the grace of the great cabocha (pumpkin) more people have not died as a result of the nuke 'whoopsies' there from this kind of management.

      Shouts out to 'genki na kamesan', an incredible onoe-of-a-kind retirement home in Sakado. That place was a fun, lively, 'LIVING' place.

  31. Progress? by gregarican · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Is this really progress? I have also read that genetic scientists are working on future projects that might be able to extend the average human lifespan to well over 100 years old. What is that worth? The people mentally would be out on Pluto.

    It is frigtening thinking of some shrivelled-up husk of a person (whom is alive by the definition of still possessing a pulse) squeaking around in a metal people-pod. It is frightening enough seeing them buzzing around the grocery store in those damn Larks and Rascals with their zombie mask expressions. Or seeing them barely peering over the steering wheel cutting people off without a clue.

    Extending lifespan and productivity of the human race is admirable to a certain degree but let's keep this in perspective. Now the medic alert bracelet will come with a key to the Jaws of Life so EMT's can pull old farts out of their rigs.

  32. Dont they watch movies in .jp? by rootofevil · · Score: 2, Interesting

    picking a name like HAL?

    im sorry dave, i cant move your leg.

    does it have a big glowing red eye? (the site appears to be slashdotted)

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  33. Balance might be an issue by The+Tyro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Loss of balance and muscular weakness seem to be the major factors I've seen in elderly hip fractures... that and frank syncope (loss of consciousness). This might help with the latter, but balance might still be up the the individual's own vestibular and proprioceptive systems. If you experienced syncope, I doubt this contraption would hold you up.

    You're quite correct regarding the complications. As far as hip fractures go, most orthopedists advocate agressive surgical repair of those injuries, with pinning/surgical fixation of some, and outright joint replacement for those that cannot be pinned (depends on the location and type of fracture). This is largely due to the risk of Thromboembolic disease (Deep Venous Thrombosis and Pulmonary Embolus) from prolonged immobilization and bed rest. Years ago, bed rest was the standard therapy for broken hips... God only knows how many people died as a result of that therapy (was thought at the time to be the best treatment... thank God for medical progress).

    The other question with these devices is how much they would lead to deconditioning of elderly patients. Exercise really IS good for you, and keeps your muscles strong through stimulus and use... anything that isn't used enough WILL atrophy. That's one of the reasons for "rehab" centers that have grown up, primarily to act as a bridge between hospitalization and home. Some elderly patients are so deconditioned after a long hospital stay (eg. for pneumonia or urinary tract infection) that they require physical therapy and reconditioning before they are able to go home and function. This device might lead people to become totally dependent upon it.

    To say nothing of the fact that it probably wouldn't help the extremely heavy patients. I regularly see 400 to 600 lb patients in my ER (takes half my staff, myself included, just to get them into a bed... often two ambulance crews get called to their homes just to get them to the hospital).

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  34. HAL by SugoiMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny
    "I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."

    But I really gotta go...BAD!

  35. Social commentary by Chagatai · · Score: 4, Informative
    Sligtly OT, I know, but Roujin Z was actually a witty social commentary on several factors in Japan. First, it criticized the social atmosphere in Japan where the elderly are increasingly being dumped by their families to caretakers and set aside to die slowly. However, compared to the number of convalescent homes in the US, the Japanese are still far more respective to their elderly than Americans overall. Think Grandpa Simpson.

    Second, it criticized the government and its lackluster attitude. This is an increasingly common theme in Anime and Japanese movies as people are becoming more irritated at their government, also illustrated in other well-known shows like Akira and Bubblegum Crisis. Wouldn't you be upset if your government had several trillion dollars in debt and an interest rate less than two percent? Oh, wait...

    Lastly, it also showed the gregarious overuse of technology as a means to solve all social ills. The bed that houses the "test" elderly man is designed to cater to his every need and technically keep him going without human interaction (though it is mentioned that he could communicate with other elderly via the bed's comm system). And, in case of nuclear attack, the bed will seal itself in concrete permanently.

    Altogether, Roujin Z was a funny film and a good satire. My favorite part is when the bed assimilates the Daibutsu (Giant Buddha) and goes for a walk to the hospital.

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  36. Why WLAN by photon317 · · Score: 2, Interesting


    The breif linked info page mentions a wireless lan connection, but it never says why it needs it. It seems the laptop inside is doing all the realtime calculations it needs, and WLAN remote computing would probably be too slow for muscle reactions anyways. What's up with the unit having a WLAN connection? And does that limit the user to being near a specific WLAN set up to work with the legs?

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    1. Re:Why WLAN by thebigmacd · · Score: 2, Informative

      Telemetery. Why do people have to make a big deal finding flaws when they just ignore the obvious?

  37. No more muggings.. by Channard · · Score: 2, Funny
    ... of the elderly, anyway.

    Mugger: 'Heh.. I'll just lurk around this retirement home and rob the next old lady who comes along. Aha.. here comes one now... Give me your money, lady or.. Holy Shi..'

    Exo-Eldster:'Rob this, you cheap hoodlum!'*whack**crunch* 'At last, technology I can appreciate.'

  38. What if you fall over? by SailFly · · Score: 2, Funny

    In Hal's voice:

    "Help I've fallen and I cant' get up."

  39. Roijin Z! by seebs · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now I'm worried.

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  40. Roujin Z by Robotech_Master · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The funny thing is, this must have been inspired, at least in part, by a 1991 anime called Roujin Z in which an elderly invalid's robotic caretaker/bed goes berzerk and menaces a city. Heh. Life imitates art.

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  41. Give it 5 years by TrippTDF · · Score: 3, Funny

    Apple's latest device:

    The iGranny.

    Robotic movement for your grandmother, plus a 100 GB hard drive for all your mp3s so you don't have to listen to her.

  42. Aunt Alice's Exoskelleton - Detroit Steel by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I have an 87 year old aunt in New Jersey (by the seashore, not up North where Tony Soprano dumps the bodies) and almost half the women in her garden club have busted their hips. While there are various scenarios, most of them were injured by slipping on the ice in the morning while getting their mail.

    Several years ago, Alice decided not to become a statistic. She had always been a swimmer, but made a point to continue her exercise, swimming every day at the community pool. She took an additional, somewhat unorthodox precaution.

    In the winter she changes her daily routine. Every morning, she opens her garage, backs her Buick down the length of her driveway, and parks the thing. She then leans out to get her mail from the box, cranks the engine, and returns.

    Her neighbors used to think she was nuts. She doesn't care. She has both hips intact.

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    "Prepare for the worst - hope for the best."

  43. Yikes! by jerkychew · · Score: 2, Funny

    I first read the title as "Japanese Deploying Powered Executions for Elderly" I was going to say - I knew that Japan was overpopulated, but wow!

  44. great now when grandma ling by Archfeld · · Score: 2, Funny

    hits the gas instead of the break it with be with some real authority...Put the people with the least reliable senses and judgement out there with indordinate strenght and possibly speed..I like

    I am the mad bomber that bombs at midnight, Baby

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    errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
  45. not just for elderly by utexaspunk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    there are lots of people this would be good for besides just the elderly. my father, for example has had to wear a brace on his right leg all his life because of polio. he has no control of it below the hip, and when he walks the brace just locks that leg straight, so he has to swing it around. he has difficulty with stairs, and the unbalanced load has caused a lot of problems with his left knee.

    this invention could very well lead to an active brace, which would give him much more mobility.