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Build Your Own Lava Lamp

Manip writes "My new project: 'The difficult part about making your own liquid motion lamp is, of course, the motion. We won't go into the lamp base too much. The store-bought ones use a 40w appliance bulb in a metal housing which directs the heat to the underside of the glass container. If you're making your own base, we recommend installing a dimmer switch so that you can control your heat output.'"

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  1. Fun projects by Pacer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, not only can you grow your own drugs, now you can make your own lava lamp.

    All the fun of enduring pop-subculture at a fraction of the price. How inspiring ... how lovely ... how un-American!

    1. Re:Fun projects by coryboehne · · Score: 1

      The two do seem to complement each other well don't they.. Now if we could only build our own plasma globes too... But I suspect that will have to wait for a while.

    2. Re:Fun projects by B3ryllium · · Score: 1

      Bah, why bother with that when you can just make a few tesla coils and/or a Van der Graff generator?

      I hear they work wonders for wireless networking.

    3. Re:Fun projects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Add a roll-your-own strobe light and black light, and we can open a nerd Spencer's Gifts.

    4. Re:Fun projects by josh+crawley · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Now if we could only build our own plasma globes too...

      You can... flyback transformer from a television, some steel wool, and a glass globe. Maybe a handful of other Radio-Shack components and wires. The toughest part is finding a suitable globe, evacuating the air from it, and filling it with gas to make the color you want, but it can be done with mostly off-the-shelf stuff.

    5. Re:Fun projects by homer_ca · · Score: 1

      I knew someone in college who built it himself using a light bulb and the high voltage supply from an old TV set. Actually he built it in high school and brought it to college. It was dimmer than the store bought ones, but it worked.

    6. Re:Fun projects by Kirin3 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Geeks on homegrown drugs making homegrown lava lamps...

      Hmm... and only a couple of week on the tail of this article... ;)

    7. Re:Fun projects by Felinoid · · Score: 1

      how un-American
      yeah just like we are communists for wanting to make our own operating system instead of using the offical operating system.

      After all downloading an operating system for free that permits you to change anything you please with zero restrictions what so ever...
      Thats oppression...

      Where as having no other choice but to buy Windows prepacaged with your PC in the configuration determined by Microsoft...
      Thats freedom.

      Now the question is...
      Are we in Alice in wonderland or 1984?

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    8. Re:Fun projects by KI0PX · · Score: 5, Interesting

      A computer engineering professor at my school made one out of a fishbowl. He used plexiglass and silicone to seal it shut, and built a small air compressor to evacuate the air from it.

    9. Re:Fun projects by enigmiac · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, while I was a waiting tables at a diner, I discovered that by putting cubes of jello in a glass of cold seltzer, you could create a minimalistic lava lamp. If the seltzer is cold enough, the jello won't melt, and the bubbles will adhere to the cubes, causing it float, and when it reaches the top, the bubbles will pop on the surface, leaving the jello to fall back down. Pretty neat trick to impress the customers, especially if you leave it sitting on the counter.

    10. Re:Fun projects by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I had shit that did that once or twice. You eat a lot of gassy foods (broccili, beans, cabbage). Some logs will float due to air in them. However, over time water seeps into the air pockets and the air works it way out due to softening over time. So then they sink back to the bottom one-by-one. I have yet to figure out how to make them come back up a second time, though. Any food ideas for that?

    11. Re:Fun projects by dondelelcaro · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Actually, while I was a waiting tables at a diner, I discovered that by putting cubes of jello in a glass of cold seltzer, you could create a minimalistic lava lamp.
      The classic example is raisins in 7-UP (or sprite, slice or ...) which works pretty much the same without the need for super cooled jelo.

      Just take about 20 raisins, rinse them and dump them into a glass of clear soda. Raisins go up, raisins go down.
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    12. Re:Fun projects by ajs318 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can do this! Take an old light bulb, preferably a clear one. It doesn't matter if the filament is broken. You also need a piezo gas igniter {the type used for lighting ovens when the built-in electric ignition has failed ..... pound stores sell them}, some well-insulated HT cable {spark plug cable is fine ..... obviously}, a hot-melt adhesive gun, a high-power soldering gun and various other home lab items.

      Determine which of the two contacts on the base of the bulb connects to the longer bit of filament, and solder the HT cable to it. This needs a high-power soldering gun as the contacts are themselves made out of solder. Alternatively, you could just splay the wire ends out and connect to both the terminals.

      Check the connection is sound {if you didn't heat it enough, or there was any dirt about, the wire will come off with a single tug} and then douse the whole thing with plenty of hot melt adhesive. The metal side part of the bulb base {with the locking pins} is not electrically connected to the two filament terminals, but should be insulated anyway otherwise a spark could jump from the terminal to the base, and from the base to your hand. Build up that adhesive. Set the whole thing in some kind of base, with the HT lead coming out the side. Don't bend it too sharply.

      Remove the metal guard from the end of the gas igniter, and push the spark electrode into the HT cable. If it is a loose fit, wrap aluminium foil, copper wire, or basically just about anything conductive around it to make it a better fit. Add much hot-melt.

      Darken the room. Place your hand on the bulb and click the igniter like mad. That's it!

      If it all goes wrong, the most likely thing to check for is that the igniter might be sparking back to the return terminal, either sometimes or always. Better insulation is the answer. Hot melt adhesive will easily withstand the voltage that can jump 10mm., which is about 30kV.

      You may obtain slightly better results if you ground the apparatus. Just run a length of green and yellow insulated wire from the terminal which used to press against the metal guard on the igniter to the earth terminal of a nearby power point.

      Usual disclaimers apply; if this doesn't work, or if you hurt yourself, then don't complain to me.

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    13. Re:Fun projects by PeterATV · · Score: 1

      To create a real lava lamp, though, don't you need to know the specific gravities of both the fluid and the wax? PeterATV peter@spamrants.com

    14. Re:Fun projects by enigmiac · · Score: 1

      but then you lose the translucent/colorful/jiggily aspect to it.

  2. Screw Lava by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want a full on Volcano Lamp

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    1. Re:Screw Lava by coryboehne · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I want a full on Volcano Lamp..

      Well, given that you are using flammable (possibly could even use somewhat explosive) substances to do this I'm sure with the proper mistakes you very well could have just that...

      Has anyone though about using the phosphorescent powder's available from United Nuclear? I'm sure you could create quite the lava lamp in this fashion..

    2. Re:Screw Lava by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      "I want a full on Volcano Lamp"

      Featuring Special Guest Star: Bob Saget!

    3. Re:Screw Lava by zephc · · Score: 4, Funny

      I want a build your own E-Z-Bake Oven HOWTO. Maybe one that could fit in a 5.25" drive bay?

      Sure, it takes 4 hours to bake a cupcake, but still. Just don't think about adding eggs unless you don't mind a little salmonella.

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    4. Re:Screw Lava by Bluetrust25 · · Score: 1

      I bought an ounce of the blue phosphorescent powder for my apartment. It's actually blue, and glows really well. The plan is to dump the stuff in clear paint ("sealer?") then paint the livingroom ceiling with it. I think it'll be neat.

    5. Re:Screw Lava by zeno_2 · · Score: 1

      Your sig reminds me of a poster I once saw..

      "You are unique.. just like everyone else."

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  3. Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    In case the site is slow, here is a mirror.

    Martin Studio Slashdot Policy

    1. Re:Mirror by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

      "In case the site is slow, here is a mirror."

      Here's a google mirror.

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    2. Re:Mirror by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Offtopic? I'd venture a guess that somebody with a mod-point didn't get your mirror joke.

  4. Case? by BrynM · · Score: 5, Interesting
    How long will it be before someone finally does a proper case mod with this information? Lots of folks have thought about it. I have yet to see someone who has done it though.

    How hot can an AMD chip get again?...

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    1. Re:Case? by Paul+d'Aoust · · Score: 3, Informative

      hmmmmmmmmm... no case mod involving a CPU as a heater, but this site documents the installation of a lava lamp into a very swanky stained-glass case. This site is the home of my favourite case mods in the world ^_^ Look at the very last case mod, number eight, to see the lava lamp.

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    2. Re:Case? by tignom · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I actually tried to convert an old Mac SE into a lava lamp. I wanted to do something cooler/more creative than the fish tank. The problem was that I couldn't find a sealant that would withstand a solution containing alcohol. I made two attempts (different solutions/sealants) before giving up. There's still some blue spots in my garage from the second attempt.

    3. Re:Case? by PrImED73 · · Score: 1

      How hot can an AMD chip get again?...
      I wouldn't have thought that any processor would produce that amount of heat, allow the heat to distribute within a contained space (which is what the movement is based on) and keep functioning properly at the same time.
      You would have to find a way to conduct the heat away from the processor to the end where the heat is going to be conducted to the "lava lamp" and not lose too much heat in the process, also a set of carefully balanced chemicals would have to be used to cause the movement at a lower temperature.

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    4. Re:Case? by Reziac · · Score: 1

      How practical would it be to have the lava lamp set up as a liquid-cooling system for the CPU??

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    5. Re:Case? by Evil-G · · Score: 1

      Would this be the sort of thing you could use a peltier for? Or would you have a problem keeping the heat at the lava lamp end together to build up enough to cause movement?

  5. Off Topic, But.... by Tsali · · Score: 5, Funny

    How many /.'ers actually own a lava lamp?

    Good.

    Now, how many of those who raised their hand are involved in a relationship with someone.

    Ahhh. You in the back. Anyone else? Good.

    Thanks.

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    1. Re:Off Topic, But.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Make sure the guy in the back understands that a hand does not count as 'someone.'

    2. Re:Off Topic, But.... by quizwedge · · Score: 2, Funny

      or try this....

      How many ./'ers are involved in a relationship with someone.

      Ahhh. You in the back. Anyone else? Anyone at all?

      No? Well, sir, do you have a lava lamp?

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    3. Re:Off Topic, But.... by Tsali · · Score: 1

      A testament to true love, no doubt.

      I am in the other camp, and the only thing I can get her tuned into is a Palm with a wireless keyboard.

      I still get help desk calls from home at work at least once a day. :-)

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    4. Re:Off Topic, But.... by Eosha · · Score: 1

      3 lava lamps and steady female companionship...

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    5. Re:Off Topic, But.... by Nasarius · · Score: 1

      Well I don't have a lava lamp, but my girlfriend does have a few. :)

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    6. Re:Off Topic, But.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I was involved with this one girl, but it got to be too expensive, so I outsourced to India and now save 80% on the cost of maintaining the relationship! .....sigh

    7. Re:Off Topic, But.... by Darwin_Frog · · Score: 1
      Ha HA! Not only do I have a lava lamp and a girlfriend, but she's the one that encouraged me to buy it!

      And she wasn't a geek before she met me. So there.

    8. Re:Off Topic, But.... by Galvatron · · Score: 1

      My girlfriend is fairly "girly" and non-tech oriented, but she has a lava lamp and I don't. She thinks they're pretty. No, neither of us do drugs. *shrug* Take from it what you will.

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    9. Re:Off Topic, But.... by CheshireCat · · Score: 1

      What if the lamp came with the girlfriend?

    10. Re:Off Topic, But.... by imsabbel · · Score: 2, Informative

      A nice yellow-orange lava-lamp is a really nice illumination if you want to have sex and you dont like a lot of candles (these things can fall over and create a real mess if things are getting a little "active"

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    11. Re:Off Topic, But.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Err, I think that hippies have a much bigger chance of having actual human relationships than other subgenres of geeks.

      Of course given a geek with a lava lamp, the big question is whether the geek is a hippie-geek or a computer-geek who wants to generate random numbers...

    12. Re:Off Topic, But.... by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 1
      I'm married, with a kid on the way, and I made my own lava lamp.

      Ha.

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    13. Re:Off Topic, But.... by yotto · · Score: 1

      Um...
      I own a lava lamp, and have owned 3 in my lifetime. My current one is displayed proudly in the front window of my house where I and my wife (Who bought it for me) live.
      My first lava lamp was purchased by me by my first "real" girlfriend in high school. We lived together for seven years, through high school and college, and when that first lava lamp broke (Her sister didn't understand that it was NOT all one unit, and picked it up by the base, quite violently) I myself purchased my second one, which said first girlfriend took with her when we, ahem, parted ways.
      I was lavalampless for a couple years (And a couple short term relationships) until I met my current wife.

      Looks to me like a lava lamp has HELPED my relationships with women. Lack of lamp, lack of relationship.

    14. Re:Off Topic, But.... by Suppafly · · Score: 1

      which type did you make?

  6. Dimmer by frovingslosh · · Score: 5, Informative
    If you're making your own base, we recommend installing a dimmer switch so that you can control your heat output.'"

    A good thing to do even with the store bought ones. I use an X10 lamp dimmer on mine, but have also used a wall mount lamp dimmer to replace a wall switch for a friend. After these things get hot they generally get very active and it results in too many too small blobs of lava to be enjoyable. With a dimmer you can adjust the flow to suit your preferences even when the lamp warns up.

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    1. Re:Dimmer by TClevenger · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Same here. My lava lamp tends to make everything stay near the top of the lamp, and doesn't get good flow. The bulbs tend to burn out every four weeks or so. I experimented with different bulbs, and it didn't help. A dimmer is essential for good results.

      Also get a timer, since they don't recommend running the lamp more than 10 hours a day. Mine was set to come on 30 minutes before I got to work, and shut off five minutes after I left.

    2. Re:Dimmer by VPN3000 · · Score: 1

      It sounds like you have a general over-heating problem if you are having both of those symptoms at once.

      I had problems like this a few years back with a generic lamp. I resolved the problem, initially, by putting the lamp in a cooler part of the room, under an AC vent. I later made a permanent fix by drilling 4 3/8" holes on the lamp's base, next to the bulb. This allowed enough hot air to escape to keep things around the right tempurature, even after many hours of continuous use.

      Having owned a number of lava lamps, I have found the brand Lava-lite to be the most consistent lamps. They have a secret formula that lava lamp hacks have been unable to duplicate effectively.

      One of the things I was considering trying, and would be open to ideas on, was to hook up a spare heatsink/peltier combo I have to the top and a heatpipe that evacuates the peltier's hot side to the bottom of the lamp. If I could get enough of the heat down to the bottom, then I could eliminate the applicance bulb completely, then go with cold cathode or superbright LED lighting on a chaser circuit... Nothing like taking a 40watt lamp and jazzing it up to use 180watts.. :)

      The stinker is finding flexible, heat conducting pipe... Any suggestions on where I can obtain this sort of thing?

  7. Next Week On Slashdot: by niko9 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Make your own Tie Dye T-shirts!

    Also, the top 10 best ways of looking like RMS!

  8. Yes, but... by OrthodonticJake · · Score: 2, Funny

    The real question is whether or not you can make it edible. Extra points if it tastes good while heated!

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    1. Re:Yes, but... by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 1

      Grain alchohol and olive or vegatable oil.

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  9. Random Numbers. by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 4, Funny

    So now I can build my own lava lamp, smoke grass, and have my very own source of Random Numbers.

    Cool. cough. cough. Anyone got a clip?

    wbs.

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    1. Re:Random Numbers. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Extra points if you use the RND with lava lamp as a vaporizer. The question is, does the smoke increase or decrease the randomness?

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  10. White Trash Lamp by BigBadBri · · Score: 1
    After reading that it was made out of an Ernest and Julio Gallo bottle -

    I realised I was white trash!

    Pass the 6-pack, Joe

    Damn - and I always thought Gallo was nice wine?

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    1. Re:White Trash Lamp by digitalunity · · Score: 1

      Actually, you should check them up in Wine Spectator. Ernest and Julio is mediocre at best. Julio did have a daughter though. Her name is Sara. She makes very good value priced wine and has won many, many awards. It goes by the name Gallo of Sonoma. They make the best chardonnay ever. Any ways...

      Ernest & Julio: -1, crap.
      Gallo of Sonoma: +1, great.

      In her price class, her wine is easily the best value. Hope this was interesting to someone on /.

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    2. Re:White Trash Lamp by lxs · · Score: 1

      simple test: if it comes in gallon jugs, it is not a nice wine.

    3. Re:White Trash Lamp by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      ** sniffs plastic cap ** Ahhhh, June...a good month

  11. Lava lamps are more than silly sixties items by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, lava lamps are cool from a scientific point of view too : they are considered a very good source of randomness for RNGs.

    Very shaggadelic ...

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    1. Re:Lava lamps are more than silly sixties items by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Check out the Lavanrand page too.

  12. While we're on the subject... by breon.halling · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... here's a litt bit about making those crazy lightshows from the sixties.

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  13. How would MacGyver do it? by Trikenstein · · Score: 2, Funny

    A chocolate bar, some turkey fat, glass tube, tincan, some wire... What else?

    1. Re:How would MacGyver do it? by HoneyBunchesOfGoats · · Score: 3, Funny

      DUCT TAPE!! This is the most important ingredient in any MacGyver creation!

    2. Re:How would MacGyver do it? by Trikenstein · · Score: 2, Funny
      *smacks forehead, ducttape, yea, what was I thinking.

      I also think he'd use a button. Probably ground up and used as a catalyst somehow.

    3. Re:How would MacGyver do it? by Webmoth · · Score: 1

      Lacking a light bulb (or a heavy one, for that matter) you can use a pencil lead across a transformer of appropriate rating.

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    4. Re:How would MacGyver do it? by whatch+durrin · · Score: 1
      Of course it wouldn't be possible without the uber-tool: the Swiss Army Knife.

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    5. Re:How would MacGyver do it? by buck_wild · · Score: 1

      Belly-button lint. Always seems heavily laden with explosive materials...

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    6. Re:How would MacGyver do it? by AkaXakA · · Score: 1

      Lava?

  14. Re:Build or Repair by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 4, Informative
  15. Worst summary ever. by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 1, Informative

    What kind of a summary/description was that supposed to be?

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  16. My Project. by magores · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've been working on a perpetual motion machine. But it seems like its taking forever and a day.

    1. Re:My Project. by n1nj4k3n · · Score: 1
      Obligatory 'Simpsons' quote...

      Homer: "In this house, we obey the Laws of Thermodynamics!"

  17. Useless! by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 2, Funny
    If I wanted a great oozing mass bouncing around my living room and changing shape randomly, I'd invite McBride or one of his SCO PR lackeys over.

    (Not enought SCO news today.. I really HAD to do something to get my fix)

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    1. Re:Useless! by josh+crawley · · Score: 1

      If I wanted a great oozing mass bouncing around my living room and changing shape randomly, I'd invite McBride or one of his SCO PR lackeys over.

      You misspelled "Cowboy Neal". Hope this helps.

  18. The real reason these things went out of fashion by meowsqueak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...is because they were found to be responsible for numerous house fires. I suspect the modern ones are far safer than those made in the 1970's, but I'd expect a home-made one to be potentially quite dangerous.

    So I guess /. is the right place for it! :)

  19. Lava Lamps? by Jonas+the+Bold · · Score: 5, Funny

    News for Hippies, stuff that matters

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    1. Re:Lava Lamps? by dupper · · Score: 1

      Dude, quit harshing my mellow!

    2. Re:Lava Lamps? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1
      Nerds can be hippies too...

      I saw the "white Trash" lamp a while back, and on that page it mentions that sooner or later, if you add dyes to your liquids, the colours will bleed across the interface.

      I did some experimenting with a selection of food dyes by means of a countercurrent extraction, a purification technique which is very cheap and simple to carry out (check any analytical chemistry textbook, or try Google) and I came up with a nice highly-polar blue dye that doesn't leak into the oil. Unfortunately, the dye bottles didn't say what the ingredients were.

    3. Re:Lava Lamps? by AbbyNormal · · Score: 1

      Dude, Far Out!

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  20. Radio Shack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    You can get a Lava Lamp for $10 at Radio Shack.

  21. Re:Build or Repair by physicsnerd · · Score: 5, Informative
    The Lava lamp uses a 40 watt appliance light bulb (the kind used in ovens). Most any supermarket or home improvenment store will have them.

    Physicsnerd

  22. Carbon Tetrachloride by bobbozzo · · Score: 4, Informative

    The patented formula uses carbon tetrachloride... VERY toxic and carcinogenic stuff. It used to be used as a cleaning agent until the FDA banned it in the 70's, IIRC.

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    1. Re:Carbon Tetrachloride by Gunnery+Sgt.+Hartman · · Score: 2, Informative

      We made one in my Organic I lab in college. We used dibutyl-phalate (sp?) and water with some salt to adjust specific gravity. I found some Sudan Red to dye the phalate and methyl orange to dye the water. We set it up each week before lab; it was sweet.

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  23. Expired Patents by jeffphil · · Score: 1

    Not sure why there is a warning about making the Lava Lamps for profit because of patents. At least in the US, both patents listed in the disclaimer are expired. 25 years is the maximum protection.

    1. Re:Expired Patents by MsGeek · · Score: 3, Informative

      No duh...this is why, a few years ago, faux LavaLamps started appearing in stores like Walgreens and Wal*Mart. The patent expired, send in the clones.

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  24. cool by jcgf · · Score: 1

    Damn...all the interesting stories appear on slashdot always show up after a huge bong hoot and a guy needs a HUGE one after that depressing outsourcing story.

  25. Good 'ol Google Groups (Circa 1995)... by Alton_Brown · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I posted this years ago and it still survives. NOTE: I did not originally post this, but I saved a text file at some point and I am now credited as the "owner" of this though I still give credit to an unknown source. For those who know me, this will divulge my secret identity ;)

    From: stormoen@sparc.isl.net (Stormoen MD)
    Newsgroups: alt.drugs
    Subject: Lava Lamp Plans Here.
    Date: 13 Jan 1995 08:08:15 GMT
    Message-ID:


    I've had SEVERAL requests for the plans, so here they are.

    Sorry, I guess I lost the name of the guy who gave 'em to me.

    (I recieved two versions, and I liked this one best).

    WARNING!! This electronic document deals with and involves subject matter and the use of materials and substances that may be hazardous to health and life. Do not attempt to implement or use the information contained herein unless you are experienced and skilled with respect to such subject matter, materials and substances. The author makes no representations as for the completeness or the accuracy of the information contained herein and disclaim any liability for damages or injuries, whether caused by or arising from the lack of completeness, inaccuracies of the information, misinterpretation of the directions, misapplication of the information or otherwise.

    Please note: The information contained in this electronic document can be found in the 1992 Edition of Popular Electronics Electronics Hobbyists handbook, published annually by Gernsback Publications Inc, USA.

    Inside a lava lamp are two immiscible fluids. If it is assumed that fluid 1 is water, then fluid 2 must be:
    • 1) insoluble in water;
    • 2) heavier than water;
    • 3) non-flammable (for safety);
    • 4) non-reactive with water or air;
    • 5) more viscous than water;
    • 6) reasonably priced.

    Furthermore, fluid 2 must not be:

    • 1) very poisonous (for safety);
    • 2) chlorinated;
    • 3) emulsifiable in water (for rapid separation).

    In addition, fluid 2 must have a greater coefficient of expansion than water. Check a Perry's handbook of Chemical Engineering, and the above list eliminates quite a few possibilities.

    Here is a list of possible chemicals to use:

    • 1) benzyl alcohol (sp.g. 1.043, bp 204.7 deg. C, sl. soluble);
    • 2) cinnamyl alcohol (sp. g. 1.04, bp 257.5 deg. C, sl. soluble);
    • 3) diethyl phthalate (sp. g. 1.121, bp 298 deg. C, insoluble);
    • 4) ethyl salicylate (sp. g. 113, bp 233 deg. C, insoluble).

    If desired, use a suitable red oil-soluble dye to color fluid 2. A permanent felt-tip pen is a possible source. Break open the pen and put the felt in a beaker with fluid 2.

    It is recommended to use benzyl alcohol as fluid 2. (Caution!! Do not come into contact with benzyl alcohol either by ingestion, skin, or inhalation.) In addition to water, the following items will be necessary:

    • 1) sodium chloride (table salt);
    • 2) a clear glass bottle, about 10 inches (25.4 cm) high;
    • 3) a 40 watt light bulb and ceramic light fixture;
    • 4) a 1 pint (473 ml) tin can or larger;
    • 5) plywood;
    • 6) 1/4 inch (0.635 cm) thick foam-rubber;
    • 7) AC plug with 16 gauge lamp wire;
    • 8) hardware;
    • 9) light dimmer (optional);
    • 10) small fan (optional).

    The performance of the lava lamp will depend on the quality of the water used. A few experiments must be conducted to determine how much sodium chloride is necessary to increase the water's specific gravity. Try a 5% salt concentration first (50 g of salt to 1 liter of water). Pour the red-dyed benzyl alcohol mixture in a Pyrex beaker. Add an equal or greater amount of water

  26. Re:Forgot to include the link! DOH! by Alton_Brown · · Score: 2, Informative
  27. Build your own fire hazzard by combinatorics · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now I can build something that:

    o has no documentation about it's foundation
    o is a potential fire hazzard

    and pay more than what a well engineered alternative would cost.

    Sounds like M$ to me.

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    Dada ended art.
  28. Dimmer switch explained by LINM · · Score: 2, Interesting

    FWIW, the reason that you want a dimmer switch is that:

    If the light is to hot -> the viscous fluid that you observe tends to turn into tons of small bubbles that go all over the place in not that cool of a way.
    If the light is too cold -> nothing will really happen.
    If the light is just right -> you'll get the sexy phallic undulating viscous membrane that women tend to prefer. Slight variations on this can be controlled with the switch.

    Just an FYI....

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    Hunger is the best sauce.

  29. Navier-Stokes Equations and Brunt Vaisala Frequenc by thedogcow · · Score: 1, Funny

    Lava lamps are a particular good example of the behavior of atmospheric and fluid dynamics.

    The Navier-Stokes Equations and Brunt Vaisala frequency come to mind.

    Of course this simplifies down to F = MA.

    God Bless Newton.

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    Yes! I listen to NYC Speedcore and do math at 3AM. I suggest you try it too.
  30. Re:The real reason these things went out of fashio by asavage · · Score: 2, Funny
  31. in high school... by paradesign · · Score: 1
    this guy was voted most likely to open a meth lab.

    well... hes almost there, a lil more carcinogenic though I think.

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  32. How to tie-dye a tie... and a tutu, too! by steveha · · Score: 2, Funny

    First you take the tie you're going to dye and tie it. When the tie is tightly tied, you dip the tie in the tie-dye dye! Ooh! When the tie-dyed tie is dried, you take the dye you just applied and set it aside. Re-tie the tie-dyed tie, take another dye, dip the re-tied tie in this dye, too. Take it out, let it dry, untie the tie, and you've got a tie-dyed tie. And a tie's not all you can tie-dye. You can tie-dye a tutu, too! Take the tutu, tie the tutu, dip it in the dye, let it dry like the tie we dyed, now tear the tutu in two. Now you've got two tutus to tie-dye! Take the two ties you tie-dyed, and the two tutus you've torn in two and tied, and dip them in the dye!


    http://www.comedy-zone.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic .cgi?forum=2&topic=18

    If anyone knows where this came from, and where I can buy a CD or something with this, please let me know. (I believe I saw this performed on a TV show called Laugh Tracks or something like that, but it predates that show.)

    steveha
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    1. Re:How to tie-dye a tie... and a tutu, too! by BrynM · · Score: 1

      Now my head is dead cause my eyes bled from what I just read.

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    2. Re:How to tie-dye a tie... and a tutu, too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      where I can buy a CD or something with this

      Buy CD-R blank
      Record self reciting instructions in jaunty manner
      Burn audio recording to CD
      Congratulate self on job well-done (optional).

      Or if you like, I can perform steps one through three and sell you the resulting CD for $19.95.

    3. Re:How to tie-dye a tie... and a tutu, too! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Lots of old schooly comics used to do stuff like this. I've heard both george carlin (in the sixties) and bill cosby (in the paleolithic) doing little rhyming routines.

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  33. Anyone know how to make the ocean things as well? by Monkelectric · · Score: 1

    I always thought they were much cooler then lava lamps. I used to have the formula when I was a kid. But my mother threw it out just because it was toxic!

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    Religion is a gateway psychosis. -- Dave Foley

  34. My Challenge to the World by K-Man · · Score: 1

    An outdoor lava lamp.

    I have some ideas, like taking a regular lamp and putting it inside a glass lantern/box, but there are probably some problems with getting the temperature right.

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  35. Re:Build or Repair by jtev · · Score: 1

    I saw several at wal-mar when I bought my plasma globe, right by the lava lamps amazingly

    please don't ding my spelling, I am way to drunk to be proofing.

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  36. Lava Lamp and Friends by annisette · · Score: 1

    The fluid dynamics of the lava lamp The aerodynamics of the frisbee The physical dynamics of our friend the bucky ball Yes a very cool, exclusive club, if anyone dares to add one, walk carefully through these constantly moving paths for we are smaller than they. How did I end up with a joint in each hand?

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    I eat my grapes at room temperature, cuz the cold ones hurt my teeth
  37. some ingredient info by bodrell · · Score: 1
    I haven't seen anyone post this yet, so . . .

    In college, for my chemical engineering plant design class, one group had a project producing dicyclopentadiene (aka DCPD). It's a solid white hydrocarbon that melts at a little over 100F or so (check www.chemfinder.com for exact numbers). Anyway, our professor said it was used in lava lamps.

    In addition, the link mentioned that propylene glycol is one of the chemicals that can be used (for the part that isn't lava), and said it was expensive. Not true. Ethylene glycol (EG) and propylene glycol (PG) are both used in antifreeze. EG will kill animals if ingested (causes kidney failure unless you saturate your system with ethanol, i.e., booze). PG is a nontoxic alternative. It's not always as easy to find, and it might be colored green, but it's cheap.

    Good luck out there, and don't start any fires you can't extinguish.

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    Si la vida me da palo, yo la voy a soportar Si la vida me da palo, yo la voy a espabilar
  38. Hopelessly inefficient... by Goonie · · Score: 4, Funny
    What kind of environmental vandal uses an incandescent bulb in a lava lamp? What right do you have to pollute the world by your wanton waste?

    With compact flourescent bulbs, there is now absolutely no excuse to emit all that completely pointless waste heat to illuminate your lava lamp! The lamp will be cheaper to run, and the bulb will last longer too!

    Just such an American thing to do...

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    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
    --Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
    1. Re:Hopelessly inefficient... by Zakabog · · Score: 1

      Yeah, you tell 'em! Why on earth would anyone want their lava lamp to get hot, I mean come on, who needs that stuff on the bottom to melt anyway. It just looks so nice their on the bottom. Let's do away with the bulb entirely, light up the lava lamp with a LED, all you really want to do is look at water anyway right?

      Anyway, I really hope you were joking. The reason you use such a bulb is because the stuff on the bottom of the lava lamp needs to get really hot before it'll start melting and floating to the top, it sinks back down to the bottom because as it reaches the top it cools down, when it reaches the bottom it gets hotter and starts moving towards the top again, wash, rinse, repeat. It's nice to have a dimmer though to control the power of the bulb, it only needs to be hot till the liquid starts moving then you can turn it down a bunch and create a lot less heat and still have the liquid moving.

    2. Re:Hopelessly inefficient... by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      yeah most of the point of the light is to provide heat.. and a normal bulb is excellent for that.

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  39. do not invert lava lamp bottle? by fwoomp · · Score: 1

    I've been wondering about this for years since I had one of those lava lamps as a kid. I vaguely remember reading in the instructions NOT to turn the lava lamp bottle upside down--and of course, I saw that AFTER I had already done so. Somewhere along the line, the lava lamp stopped working, even with the light bulb turned on. Maybe I'm remembering wrong about what it was that I was not supposed to do (but did anyway). Maybe that wasn't even why the thing stopped working. I was just a kid, so it was a long time ago. Has anybody heard of anything like this?

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    1. Re:do not invert lava lamp bottle? by schnits0r · · Score: 1

      I did this once. It was actaully my (now ex, for different reasons) girlfriend's lamp. There was a metal coil in the bottom of the bottle. My guess is that it helped disperse the heat and melt the coloured stuff on the inside. Anyways to fix it, we had to leave it on for like a day so all the stuff on the inside became liquid and rose to the the top of the bottle and the coil could go back to the bottom.

  40. Christ, liberals just aren't up for it. by PHAEDRU5 · · Score: 1

    Anonymous cowards, etc. An Arab is usually better.

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    668: Neighbour of the Beast
  41. All over the world.... by rat7307 · · Score: 1

    Breaking News:

    All over the world, intelligence agencies are reporting localized explosions which the CIA believe to be part of a terrorist plot.
    The source has been traced to the undergound web site 'The Slashdot' in which people were encoraged to build an incendery device with the following instructions:

    1. For the Blobby bit, use a wax based solution

    2. For the fluid, use something of lesser density (Petroleum would be a good start)

    3. Place in sealed glass container

    4. Heat over Bunsen Burner

    Police spoke to one of the bomb makers and he said he was 'trying to get laid by chikz0rz'

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  42. Here another DIY lava lamper... by mikeselectricstuff · · Score: 1

    http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/bigclive/lavalamp. htm

  43. Mathmos by alext · · Score: 1

    I pass Mathmos HQ every day - nice window display.

    They invented the lava lamp back in 1963, and are still going despite having to spend a fortune stopping far east manufacturers ripping off their designs. Quite a cute site so worth a plug.

    1. Re:Mathmos by alext · · Score: 1

      Oops, messed up the main link, sorry.

      PS I rather like the contrast between the original inventor chappie and the today's female sharp cookie CEO.

  44. what you could do... by CausticPuppy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...is replace the light bulb with a non-luminous heating element, and then just have some UV LED's in the base to "charge" the phosporescent goo periodically.

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    -CausticPuppy "Of all the people I know, you're certainly one of them." -Somebody I don't know
    1. Re:what you could do... by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 2, Informative

      While less geeky, you could just use a blacklight bulb and leave it on.

      As long as you don't mind the light spilling into the rest of the room...

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      "Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
  45. Erupting (and exploding) Lava Lamp by alekso · · Score: 1

    I built a Better-Than-Lava-Lamp a few years back - it more erupted than flowed and was quite cool to watch - but it was short lived. You see, what made it beautiful made it dangerous and it blew up real good! Check out Erupting Lava Lamp for a short video in Real format.

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    Aleks Oniszczak
    VividPicture.com/aleks

  46. Real Lava Light by DumbSwede · · Score: 1

    This is slashdot for God sakes, we want an article on how to make a lava lamp with real LAVA!

  47. Lava lamp - I want ons of those wave machines by azav · · Score: 1

    Does anyone remember those water wave machines with blue and white fluid (water/oil?) in them?

    I'd really like to find out how to make one of them.

    Always thought is was colored water & oil but I was rather young in the 70's

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    - Zav - Imagine a Beowulf cluster of insensitive clods...
  48. Did it with an Absolut Vodka bottle... by Hummercash · · Score: 1

    and it came out REALLY nice... I'll post some pics if I ever get around to taking them.

    .//chris

  49. Here's the recipe: by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 2, Informative

    1/2L Kerosene
    1/2L Water
    Blue food dye

    Pour water into approx. 1L glass or plastic container. Add blue food dye to taste. Float kerosene on top. (pouring it over the back of a spoon may help here) Seal container tightly, and shake gently to simulate rolling ocean waves.

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  50. Re:Anyone know how to make the ocean things as wel by ScottBob · · Score: 1

    I once made a pocket version using turpentine and colored water. I used one of the small square bottles of turpentine that comes with Testors model paints. It was half full, so all I had to do was add enough colored water to fill it up. I used to carry it in my pocket everywhere I went, pulling it out during a dull moment (usually junior high math class) and tipping it back and forth.

  51. Hope this works by x+e+q+u+a · · Score: 1

    Maxim had published faulty instructions on how to build your own lava lamp a few years back. Not only did it not work, it made a goddamn mess like you wouldn't believe... I hope your plans are better.

  52. Really Cool Lamps by ajs318 · · Score: 1

    Way back when I was doing my O-levels {shows age ..... O-levels were what we had before GCSE's} my school physics department had a cadmium-vapour lamp. This glew with a particularly wonderful electric-blue colour.

    I have never been able to find one. I wouldn't mind one though ..... even though it used some sort of high voltage power supply and toxic cadmium, that colour really made it worth all the dangers. {I think, from my spectroscopy experiment I did, that there is one red, one green, one blue and one violet line, but there may well be some invisible ones}.

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    Je fume. Tu fumes. Nous fûmes!
  53. FIRE WARNING!!! by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 1

    Do NOT use steel wool in your plasma globe project. STEEL WOOL IS HIGHLY FLAMMAMBLE. You can start it burning with a 9v battery.

    DO use copper Chore-Boy potscrubber. That is what everyone uses, and the idea originally came from a guy named Ray, who wandered around a grocery store looking for something to replace the bare-HV-wire-wrapped-on-a-grommet that would arc thru the glass after a few months.

    I worked at the first plasma globe mfr, as did Ray. If you see a plasma globe or tube in a museum, it might be one of ours.

  54. OMG by imsabbel · · Score: 1

    I normaly dont reply to myself, but i have to say that i think it is REALLY disturbing that my post was modded +1 informative.

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  55. Even better... by jo42 · · Score: 1

    1) Buy a Mac.

    2) Install OS X.

    3) Run iTunes with the Visualizer in full screen.

    Makes Lava Lamps look like hand puppets in front of a candle...