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The Borg MegaCube

Alien54 writes "Paramount Pictures this week revealed plans to release a DVD box set containing every single episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Called the 'Borg Megacube', the box set will include all seven seasons of TNG across 48 discs, thus collecting all the individual DVD sets into one package. As the name implies, the set comes in the form of a Borg cube. Due out at the beginning of November..."

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  1. Region 0? by mr.henry · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The Borg MegaCube, the ultimate DVD collection, contains the Complete Star Trek: The Next Generation series 1- 7 across 48 discs and is strictly limited to just 1000 numbered copies worldwide.

    I wonder if it's region encoded.

    The press release is full of foofoo crap ("By order of Starfleet Command...") and doesn't contain too many specs, like whether it's NTSC or PAL!

    It makes me cringe to think about people dropping 450 #'s on this thing and then not opening it up for fear of it losing the precious MINT, NIB collector's status. Personally, I'd rather have a complete run of the series in a nice binder. (On DVD-R.)

    1. Re:Region 0? by Dionysus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For people in Europe, it's pretty much irrelevant which region it's encoded for, since the majority of people get their DVD player fixed when they buy the machine.

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    2. Re:Region 0? by pla · · Score: 3, Informative

      I wonder if it's region encoded.

      Yes, they released it region coded.

      But wait for the kicker...

      They haven't yet announced a region-1 version!

      Good thing most of the people with an interest in this have the sense to buy a region-unlockable DVD player...

    3. Re:Region 0? by J_DarkElf · · Score: 2, Informative

      From that article:

      They're Not Really PAL or NTSC
      The first thing I need to clarify about DVD is that PAL and NTSC are words and formats that are applied to DVD for convenience, and because of historical convention. There is nothing fundamental about a DVD which makes it either PAL or NTSC, but for simplicity and brevity, I will continue to use these terms throughout this article.

      At their heart, DVDs are merely carriers of data files with compressed audio-visual information contained therein. This information can be placed on DVD in one of two resolutions; 720 x 576 pixels (PAL DVDs), or 720 x 480 pixels (NTSC DVDs), and with various frame rates (24, 25, and 30 frames per second are common). The DVD player itself takes this data file and formats it appropriately for display in either PAL or NTSC.

      Perhaps you should read what you link to?

      Yes, there is a difference in resolution, but this is compensated for in the player.

    4. Re:Region 0? by Dot.Com.CEO · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not PAL30. It's PAL 60. 99% of TV in the market today support it. 99% of the TVs in Europe support NTSC, as well. Basically, PAL is a superior format, resolutionwise, and has no problemwith inferior resolution NTSC video. Anyway, most DVD players convert NTSC-60 to PAL-50 flawlessly. You only there is some kind of conversion in extreme pan shots.

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    5. Re:Region 0? by pla · · Score: 2, Informative

      Can you explain the logic of this statement to me?

      Sure.

      US DVDs use region 1. Paramount has not yet announced anything but a region 2 (Western Europe) release of this set. Without a region unlocked player, Americans could not enjoy this product.

    6. Re:Region 0? by JonathanBoyd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The majority of people who by DVDs aren't even aware there is a region system, let alone know how to modify their player.

    7. Re:Region 0? by glesga_kiss · · Score: 2, Insightful
      What do you mean with "don't buy Sony or Pioneer?"

      Most of the easy region mods have been for the lower end of the market DVD players. Meanwhile, the more expensive players required hardware mods or updated firmware, which cost more to do.

      Many of the cheaper brands, such as Samsung, became infamous for selling machines that could be hacked by certain sequences on the remote-control. This started off back in the day when the legality of these hacks was still in question. The smaller brands were not members of the DVD consortium, and weren't forced to follow it's rules as closely. The reputation pretty much remains. It's interesting for Sony, because one division (movies) want's region coding, while the hardware division wants to do anything to increase sales, e.g. easy region free.

  2. Lack Of Continuity Explanation pop-ups... by FatSean · · Score: 3, Funny

    I heard that there will be 'pop ups' on the screen. You press 'enter' and text will explain why this episode contradicts other episodes...

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  3. Regional encoding strikes again by PoitNarf · · Score: 5, Informative

    From TrekToday:
    "The Borg Megacube is currently scheduled to hit stories in Region 2 (Europe) on November 3, 2003. It is not known whether a Region 1 (North America) version will also be released, but only 1000 copies will be on sale worldwide."

    http://www.trektoday.com/news/260903_01.shtml

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    1. Re:Regional encoding strikes again by Sirch · · Score: 2, Funny
      "The Borg Megacube is currently scheduled to hit stories in Region 2 (Europe) on November 3, 2003..."

      Those darn news sites, with their region-encoded text... good thing I cracked my browser so I can read Region 1 stories...
    2. Re:Regional encoding strikes again by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 3, Informative
      " most drives are firmware upgradeable to a region free mode. Also, for Windows users, there is "DVD-region free"."

      Just get the Free media player VLC which works on windows, os x, linux and some others as well. It will play all regions even if you don't have a region free DVD drive.

    3. Re:Regional encoding strikes again by SmittyTheBold · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most drives (there has been some hubbub lately about certain drives) allow you to read the encrypted data in the encrypted form - and CSS has proven relatively trivial to crack, so that's what some players such as VLC do.

      The region-locked drives just prevent you from reading the title key (or...one of the keys. I don't remember which) itself. As I mentioned before, some drives have started showing up that don't allow you to read the encrypted content if you're of the wrong region, but those drives are in the definite minority.

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  4. There go my savings. by SixDimensionalArray · · Score: 3, Informative

    Considering that in the US each single season goes for ~$100, how much could this cost?

    Oh well, there go my savings! And retirement benefits! And computer gadget money! :)

    1. Re:There go my savings. by Judg3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, if you RTFA you'd of seen that it retails for 449 pounds, which as of right now is about 750$ USD.

      It's a shame that there's only 1000 copies released. I'm not the biggest Trek fan, but I used to watch TNG fairly religously (still catch it now and then) and a whole set like this would of been real nice to have. But, like others have said, I'm going to guess that about 900 of those 1000 copies will be bought by die hard trekkies, never opened, and either safely tucked away in a nitrogen filled, cooled, tungsten safe or immediately put up on ebay with a starting bid of $10,000.

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  5. More ST stuff! by mr.henry · · Score: 4, Funny

    Paramount should market some 'Starfleet Lube' that fans can buy to ease the pain of merchandise-related anal rape. Berman personally tested it out on Brannon Braga.

  6. Somewhere in the night by Exiler · · Score: 2, Funny

    the nerd's collective personal hygine screams

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  7. Resistance is Futile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You will be Slashdotted.

  8. Storage... by SharpFang · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I guess if they used full DVD capacity (4-sided recording, 16G/disk) and some decent compression, they could fit it maybe in a typical 4 CD case.

    But then it wouldn't have such a marketing impact. 4 DVD set? What's so special about that?

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    1. Re:Storage... by herko_cl · · Score: 2, Funny

      " full DVD capacity (4-sided recording..."(Emphasis mine)
      No wonder it's called The Next Generation! <grin />

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    2. Re:Storage... by SlamMan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      True, but most people don't like to deal with dual sided dvds. Easier to damage when there's data on both sides instead of a label on one, plus they just seem cheaper.

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    3. Re:Storage... by shepd · · Score: 4, Informative

      Mmmhmmm...

      There's 168 star trek: TNG episodes total.

      Each episode is about 45 - 50 minutes long, IIRC.

      A "well encoded" DVD will fit not much more than 2 hours per layer. Since a layer change would be acceptable, but not a side change, during an episode, that's no more than about 5 episodes a side, or about 10 episodes a disc.

      That leaves us with a 17 disc _minimum_ requirement, which doesn't leave much room for enhacements. I agree, 48 is a bit much, but perhaps they want art on each disc for readability purposes? That leaves only 14 "extra" discs.

      Either way, since a pressed DVD costs less than $5 CDN to produce (evidenced by WalMart crap movies sales) even at 48 discs, that's a hefty premium for an already paid-up show.

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    4. Re:Storage... by ameoba · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, not having a label would make the disk -less- prone to damage. The label side is the one that, if damaged, causes a loss of information. If you look at a CD/DVD, you'll notice that the 'shiney side' is a fairly thick slab of clear plastic; the reflective surface is just a thin foil layer on the label side, which is poorly protected (you may notice that video rental places have been putting thick stickers over the labels for extra protection).

      Scratches to the media side can often be buffed/polished out without losing anything; scrathes through the label are uncorrectable, as the material carying the data is lost.

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    5. Re:Storage... by xkenny13 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, not having a label would make the disk -less- prone to damage. The label side is the one that, if damaged, causes a loss of information. If you look at a CD/DVD, you'll notice that the 'shiney side' is a fairly thick slab of clear plastic; the reflective surface is just a thin foil layer on the label side, which is poorly protected (you may notice that video rental places have been putting thick stickers over the labels for extra protection).

      This is true for CDs, but not for DVDs. DVDs have the data layer sandwiched between two clear polycarbonate layers. Here's a few links on the subject.

      In other words, having a label or not having a label does not truly affect the "safety" of your data layer, when it comes to DVDs. Apparently, all it affects is your overall capacity.

  9. I sense a slashdotting in the works... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Borg MegaCube
    The Complete Star Trek: Next Generation Seasons
    1-7DVD Collection

    Captain's Log 3rd November 2003

    By order of Starfleet Command, The Borg MegaCube, a DVD Box Set Collection unlike any other is to be released to commemorate the legendary voyages of the Starship USS Enterprise-D.

    The Borg MegaCube, the ultimate DVD collection, contains the Complete Star Trek: The Next Generation series 1- 7 across 48 discs and is strictly limited to just 1000 numbered copies worldwide. This collection is presented in the shape of a Borg Cube - both in recognition of the crew's struggles against one of mankind's greatest threats - The Borg - and in remembrance of the thousands of Starfleet lives lost at the battle of Wolf 359.

    A collective intelligence, formed of organic beings with cybernetic enhancements, the Borg wander the galaxy, seeking out cultures to assimilate. The Enterprise Crew are first introduced to the Borg in the second season episode 'Q - Who' and the Cyborgs have since become the single greatest threat facing the Federation......

    In 'The Best of Both Worlds', voted as the best ever TNG episode by the US public in a recent poll, the Borg arrive in Federation space to assimilate their people and technology. They capture Picard, turning him into 'Locutus of Borg' in an attempt to conquer the human race and set course for Earth. Acting Captain Riker must find a way to stop them before the Enterprise has to break off the pursuit.

    In 'I-Borg', the Enterprise discovers a crashed Borg scout ship with an injured survivor. Dr Crusher insists on saving his life, despite the concerns of the others. She is shocked when she discovers that Picard intends to use him to spread a virus that would destroy the Borg completely.

    'Descent' sees the Borg return to do battle with the Federation, boasting a new individuality. Things become complicated when they enable Data to feel his first emotion and an injured Borg starts to show individualistic tendencies.

    This Star Trek Next Generation box set collection also includes an individually numbered certificate of purchase commissioned by Starfleet Command and holds a special limited edition Star Trek Next Generation Clock, specifically designed for this exclusive release.

    The Borg MegaCube Box Set, with digitally re-mastered picture quality and Dolby surround sound, is available from Paramount Home Entertainment on 3rd November and costs 449.99 from major DVD retailers.

    Live Long and Prosper

    The Story of the Borg Ship

    At the time of the filming of 'Q-Who', there were two visual supervisors: Dan Curry and Rob Legato. They each had their own specifications for the design of the Borg ship:

    Rob Legato - The Borg ship should be a ball with a trench of detail around the middle.
    Dan Curry - The Borg ship should be a cube that looked smooth at a distance. As you got closer and closer, more detail would be revealed. (Dan had hired Special Effects for this job).

    The Rob Legato team experienced problems and the job of building the Borg Ship went to Special Effects. It took 14 modellers two weeks to finish the job. That is nothing short of amazing when you consider that while the specifications called for only one side finished, Special Effects supplied a Borg ship that was finished on all sides. In order to achieve that level of detail, F/X put everything in they could find, including R2-D2, toy soldiers, plastic model "rails", and the F/X logo.

    Highlights of Next Generation Seasons

    Season One includes the very first Next Generation episode, 'Encounter At Farpoint' which introduces us to the Crew of the Enterprise. Episode Guide - Q challenges the crew to prove the humanity of the human race through a series of tests on Farpoint - if they fail, they face certain death! When an unidentified ship begins firing on the old Bandi city, they learn that the people of Deneb IV have captured its mate and are holding it against its will. Will the crew of the Enterpris

  10. Lots of Currency by CGP314 · · Score: 4, Funny

    With 48 discs I'm sure it would take the combined financial resources of the collective to purchase the set.

  11. Perfect Story by CGP314 · · Score: 4, Funny

    What a perfect story for those reading slashdot on a Saturday night instead of going out.

    Err...

    Excluding myself.

  12. How long? by Ceadda · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So, its making its appearance in Europe.. so that means it'll take what... 3? 4 hours for the bit-torrent links to start popping up to fresh encoded episodes in dvd quality with surround sound? They might be making a HUGE mistake not putting it out in more than one market. And you know they're gonna throw a fit when everone in the rest of the world gets pirate versions.

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    1. Re:How long? by Kufat · · Score: 2, Informative

      All of the DVDs have already been released by season; only the packaging and pack-in items are unique to this set.

      And yes, pirated copies did start appearing when each season of ST:TNG was released, but they've all been out for quite some time now.

  13. This is excellent by borius · · Score: 2, Funny

    As a big Star Trek fan I can only like this. How much it will cost though? As a piss poor high school student (spends all money on music instruments) my budget is limited for stuff that can be... er.. acquired for free if need be.

    Btw, where are all the usual jokes? "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of Borg cubes?, "SCO has prior art", "CowboyNeal lives in my Borg cube", "In Soviet Russia Star Trek episodes watch you" etc etc.

  14. cbb by meeotch · · Score: 3, Funny
    Mod me down (or up) for typical Slashdot carping, but the packaging looks pretty weak. I was expecting some sort of detailed plasitc model, not just a painted box. For 750 bucks I think I'd rather have a hooker.

    o.k. o.k., fine - a hooker dressed up as Seven of Nine. Sheesh!

    mitch

  15. You all can thank me... by Shaheen · · Score: 2, Funny

    See, they announced this box set right after I completed my collection of the single season releases.

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  16. Re:article text in case of /.ing by Alien54 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Imagine the poor guys running or hosting www.dvddebate.com - probably out enjoying the sunshine. What could possible go wrong, especially on the weekend? Suddenly the pager rings...

    "Did you notice the smoke pouring out of the server?"

    "What smoke pouring out of the server?"

    [insert blood curdling scream here]

    Actually their content seems half decent

    Let's see the last bit of that tracer route:


    16 213.206.159.146 148.576 ms sle-rack-1-0.sprintlink.net
    17 212.100.227.18 148.589 ms vl130.aggr1.lon.rackspace.net (DNS error) [AS15395] Rackspace UK
    18 212.100.226.100 148.547 ms server2.architec.co.uk [AS15395] Rackspace UK

    Well, the server page claims they are doing fine ... ;-)

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  17. Wrong way to think about by lavalyn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Your 300MB number is coming from where? Most probably from sizes you can get with DivX - that is to say, MPEG4. DVDs are MPEG2, using slightly different algorithms and definitely a different quantization matrix... one that emphasizes sharpness instead of the H.264 used in MPEG4 that emphasizes low frequencies.

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    1. Re:Wrong way to think about by technix4beos · · Score: 4, Informative

      Your empirical evidence is bogus.

      I'm staring at a Star Trek The Next Generation DVD in my hand now. It contains 4 episodes, with each one being ripped to the hard drive producing 1.8 GIG files in size.

      The very first DVD contains Encounter at Farpoint (both parts), making it one of the exceptions. Each season ends with 3 episodes, and a "features" video. There are 48 DVD's in total, spread across the series so that there are on average 4 episodes on each (roughly, some have 3 and a feature).

      One more thing. Each episode on the DVD has approximately 42 minutes running time, since there are no commercials, and that's what the show's airtime was given.

      Just thought you might like to know some facts. ;)

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  18. Packaging!! by GrouchoMarx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good grief, look at the image of the packaging. It's awful. Rather than a binder-esque design, they've taken all seven of the horribly over-engineered boxes for the individual seasons that are an absolute pain to use or transport (my parents have the full set, naturally), and cramed them all into one over-sighed padded cardboard box.

    Come on, people! I want the movie, not lots and lots of plastic and foam and "collector's edition" space wasting. JUST GIVE ME THE BLOODY DISK!!!

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  19. Even The Good Book Has This Issue by horati0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Flanders: Why me, Lord? Where have I gone wrong? I've always been nice to people. I don't drink or dance or swear. I've even kept Kosher just to be on the safe side. I've done everything the bible says, even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!

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  20. Symbolic Gesture. by Executive+Override · · Score: 4, Funny

    Someone should buy one, set it on a metal plate or in a trash can, set it on fire, tape it while it burns, and put it on the Internet so Trekkies can feel the horror people who like good sci-fi feel when they watch Star Trek, specially Next Generation.

    1. Re:Symbolic Gesture. by Executive+Override · · Score: 2, Funny

      Good point! Let me just say that if they ever make a Voyager box such as this one, burning it wouldn't only be a symbolic gesture, it would be a service to mankind.

      "The ship has been miniaturized by Q and now we're being attacked by electrons! Send some positrons to avert impact!" God, I didn't think anything could suck that bad.

  21. Sony and Pioneer Players can be made codefree too by tempmpi · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sony and Pioneer Player can made codefree with a new firmware. The codefree Sony firmware also disables User Prohibitions, so you can skip to the next chapter whenever you want and you can always change subtitels, audio etc.
    Many recent Pioneer Players also can be made codefree with a code entered with the remote control. Sony and Pioneer are both manufacturing really nice dvd players and many retailers here(Germany) are offering them preloaded with a codefree firmware, so there is really no reason to avoid these players. You can get almost every player in a codefree version here, no matter which brand.

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  22. Re:Yet another way to turn the nickle by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Could you please enlighten the curious: Given that you already own copies of all seven seasons, what possible add-ons could they stuff in this cube that would make it worth $500-$1000 to you? How many hours of "never-before-heard commentaries"--that you'll never listen to--add up to $1000 in value? How many hours of "never-before-seen-deleted-scenes"--which were too crappy to make the first batch of "never-before-seen-deleted-scenes"--will satisfy your lust for Trek arcana? How many hours of blooper footage--mostly consisting of "Dr. Crusher flubbing her lines and everyone laughing" and "Worf running into the door that should have opened"--can you have before another hour of same adds no value?

    Unless you are really rich and plan on giving your old collection away as Christmas gifts, or are expecting that one of the "add-ons" is a coupon for sexual favors from the crew members of your choice, then I'm saddened that you would consider buying it under any circumstances.

    I don't mean to be blasting you in particular. It's your money, not mine. It's just that I see this as the as-yet-most-absurd example of the already absurd "special edition DVD" craze. It reminds me of the re-release of "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes". At the beginning, the director stands up in front of an audience to explain how wonderful it is to have all these deleted scenes back in. One audience member shoots back, "If they were so wonderful, why did you delete them in the first place?"

    My brother managed to snag "The Fellowship of the Ring" for $10 the first day the DVD was available. Nevertheless, when the "full six-DVD collection" came out, with its hours upon hours of deleted scenes and other goodies, he went out and bought it again. To this day, he's only watched about an hour's worth of all those "goodies," which makes for damned expensive entertainment.

    It's all a ploy to get the maximum amount of money from fans with a minimum of actual effort. I'd bet good money that, when George Lucas finally allows Episodes 4-6 out on DVD, there will be a "Special Edition" release (they never start with just a "regular edition"), then a "Director's Cut" edition, then throw in a "Directors Cut Gold," and so on up to "Director's Cut Gold Alpha Turbo Xtreme Edition" ($109.95, and includes deleted extended sequences and cameos by Jar-Jar).

    All these releases and re-releases don't add anything of value to the economy. It's all plastic and cardboard. At least with normal DVDs, you're paying for the content, but with re-releases, they've found a way to turn worthless behind-the-scenes footage into gold by using it as an excuse to sell us the same thing over again.

    In the end, it's up to the individual to decide whether or not the re-release adds enough value to warrant a separate purchase. But please think about the game they're asking you to play before you get roped into playing it.

    Note: The dude who was talking about putting seven seasons on four discs probably meant using some sort of DivX encoding.

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  23. Re:why does it matter? by DeathPenguin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not sure, either. I guess some people just like science-oriented nature of the program.

    I personally like Star Trek because it is very much different from other sci-fi shows which concentrate mostly on solving conflict with aliens by killing them. In Star Trek, the crew's mission is not to use violence unless absolutely necessary. In I-Borg, for example, the crew nurses to health an injured Borg, a mortal enemy of the Federation, while the Borg begins to understand what individuality is.

    Many episodes deal more with the social evolution of humanity rather than shooting 'phasers' at everything that doesn't look human. The very first one, Encounter at Farpoint, is probably the best example of this. After referring to humanity as a "dangerous, savage child-race," Q taunts the Enterprise crew hoping to make them fire upon an unidentified vessal attacking a planet. Rather than attacking it, they investigate the situation further to discover that another alien being is being held captive and forced into labor by the inhabitants of the planet. Of course, they make the right decision in the end and prevent the destruction of mankind at the hands of the Q.

    It seems the idea was that a much more evoloved society would investigate threats and come up with peaceful solutions whenever possible rather than taking a course of violent action like Q had expected of them in that first episode.

  24. Re:Let me know by brainthought · · Score: 2, Funny

    "...when I can get it on Kazaa..."

    This would make it the Orion Pirate edition I believe...