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Linux Kernel 2.6.0-test8 Released
djcapelis writes "It's that time again. Latest release is hot off the presses in this final bit of stabilization before 2.6.0 is finally released. Changelog: here. Use mirrors if you're nice, but kernel.org has a nice little bandwidth readout on the front page so you can see how hard their servers are being hit if you don't feel like tracking one down. A few XFS changes from SGI in there as well if anyone is still worried on that topic. Watch for the MM patches when they come out. The FTP server seems to be snappier for some."
Direct download link for the lazy (bz2)
Use 2.2 and avoid the fees.
fr1st p0stz0rz! i use the 2.6 kernels modified by Lovechild on gentoo forums they roxor!111
They still haven't fixed the problems in the framebuffers. Anyone know why this is so low priority?
You should use AdiumX on your Mac.
... but kernel.org has a nice little bandwidth readout on the front page so you can see how hard their servers are being hit...
;)
how many people are going to go there not to download, but just to see the nifty meter and end up slashdotting them
Is a spoofed download to a Goatse video.
Nasty. DO NOT DOWNLOAD!
-- The WIPO Avenger
It seems to me unless it's some real milestone kernel that these stories should just be left on freshmeat.
Yes, I know the inevitable replies of "don't read it" or "set preferences to not see it" will come, but I'm just pointing out that this takes up space on the front page and is not particularly interesting to anybody.
we got an AC here that needs to grow up.
Don't mod this guy up! Slashdot DOES give karma to AC's, if they post with the "anonymous option". I've noticed that recently, and it appears in my posting history too! So, for the sake of the kernel.org servers, MOD THE FUCKING PARENT DOWN!
there is a mirror here.
I'm a reg user and this isn't showing up in my posting history.
Oh no, I just finished downloading the Mythical Man Month and -test8 is already out!
Back to downloadin' (and drinkin'),
Elvira
Do I need to pay SCO $699 for this release too? Or does the license I purchased from them cover this as well?
Windows XP seems to be working well enough... why bother with this? I guess you have to be really geeky, or just really bored
Why is AC patch still needed under 2.6? I thought I've read enough of performance information to be convinced that 2.6 is the butter. I've been convinced of how the scheduler is supreme? Why I ask you...why is AC patch still needed?
Well I've been using test5+mm4 under heavy load with no problems. Now the mm4 did include the XFS fix and its been totally stable under constant I/O. Looks like 2.6 is shaping up very nicely. Would like to put it into real production but won't quite yet as there might be still one or two nasty little surprises. Overall thought hats off to Linus et al
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On the eve of the Linux 2.6 introduction for personal computers, Microsoft's General Manager, Windows Division, Dave Fester posted his thoughts on Linux Kernel 2.6.0-test8. In his comments, Fester concludes that Linux Kernel 2.6.0-test8 is too limited for PC users.
"Unless Linux decides to make radical changes to their service model, a Linux-based operating system will still remain a closed system, where PC owners cannot access content from other operating systems," said Fester. "Additionally, users of Linux are limited to programs from Redhat's install CD... this is a drawback for PC users, who expect choice in music programs, choice in games, and choice in Word Processors from a wide-variety of Microsoft products to use for various purposes. Lastly, if you use Linux's desktop environment along with Linux, you don't have the ability of using the over 40 different Windows XP-compatible GUI skins. When I'm paying for a desktop environment, I want to know that I have choices today and in the future."
When asked how the Linux Kernel 2.60-test8 differs from Windows-based services, Fester talks about Microsoft Office and the different types of options it will offer users. Fester concludes that it will be the best experience that ultimately wins over consumers.
"All told, copmputer fans should look for services that offer the best experience and take advantage of the best digital rights platform available for PCs. With Windows XP 2003, you get faster starts, better quality internet, and support for the most websites," Fester said.
Is this kernel the one that is written by the kernel hackers themselves, or just another one of the pre-2.6 ripoffs. By the way, do you guys ever give credits when you 'pick up' other's code? (no legal issue for BSD licenses)
if 2.6 has better serial ata support than currently? I still can't get it to work.
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Chris Morris r0x0rs my b0ll0x0r5!
Linux and his friends got a new patch of updates from their undisclosed friends at SCO, which they can now incorporate and sell as "open source". Hope McBride has enough gut to stomp on this gang of cyberpirates calling themselves "hockers".
Does anyone know where i can find a good list of new features that are included in the 2.6 kernel?
...kernel releases you!
Anybody know any good articles that explain exactly how things will differ for upgrading Linux users (non performance type things) i.e. what's happening with dev and proc? loadable modules? whatever?
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How do you plan to posting anonymously without the AC patch?
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rebels, which already had the support of Rwandan and Uganda Army.
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Kabila which force him to call off the assignment and deposite this money
Packed in a diplomatic case in a private finance company in holland, the
Netherlands, though he registered the content as precious stones the real
content is (US9.5M) meant for the purchase of arms for the Congolese Army.
My father went home for the funeral of the late president, but on his
arrival he was arrested, detained and tortured, unfortunately my father
sufferred cardiac arrest and died on the 17th of March 2001.
However,one of our numerous visits I and my mother paid him while in prison,
my father revealled this secret to me and advice that i should proceed to
the Netherlands to claim the money, he handed me all the relevant documents
that will enable me claim the box from the finance company,such as (CERTIFICATE
OF DEPOSIT)the telephone number and the fax number.
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sux your balls. Faggort.
Oi, it's not that hard. www.XX.kernel.org or ftp.XX.kernel.org, where XX is your two-letter country code, like fr for France.
The correct link is here.
Unless you find MSN search offensive.
Suck it, bitch!
Since it's a very fine morning here in Sydney Australia and I'm feeling more Aussie than usual today, I would just like to point out that Andrew Morton and Con Kolivas are both Australian. Go you good things!
go to hell with you SCO jokes. i can't take it any more.
This has been posted here before. Check out Dave's post-halloween document.
Here is the xterm dump of a serious problem I have had with 2.6.0-test7
/mnt/floppy
[droberts@localhost]$ uname - a
Linux 2.6.0-test-7 i686 localhost
[droberts@localhost]$ ls -l companyreport.ppt
xrw-xrw-rx 17493892 companyreport.ppt
[droberts@localhost]$ cp --time complanyreport.ppt
cp : Operation took 6321 seconds!
Thats almost two hours to copy a file to a floppy disk! That is unaceeptably slow! And yes, I DID enable DMA, and my floppy is NOT broken, the same operation under Linux 2.4.23 had this result.
cp : Operation took 58 seconds.#
So, can anybody explain whats wrong?
--
Dahn Roberts
Can anyone tell me what advantages Linux has as opposed to a more mature and stable operating system such as Solaris, *BSD or XP?
I've been running the 2.6 Test kernel (-mm patches usually) since -test5 and everything has been great.
Multitasking really is a dream. I'm able to compile, listen to music, and surf the web without any slowdown. Im no developer though, so I think that the 2.6 will really help Home/Desktop users.
Of course, home users will like improved multi media performance, but the coolest thing I saw was web page rendering. Web pages render twice as fast (for me) with the 2.6 kernel!! This is very noticable, and very enjoyable.
http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8906594941. html
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http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/resourceslatency
Assuming you really had a problem, have you reported it? Anyway, the file seems a little large to fit on a floppy. What were you using?
17493892 bytes?
You can put roughly 17MB of data on one floppy? Wow! I'm upgrading to test-8 ASAP.
(nice troll by the way)
-bbk
Any hints?
Uh, you must have a very special version of ls, that presumably expresses mode in xrw?xrwwrx notation (where ? is a mystery value), as opposed to standard drwxrwxrwx notation. I also notice the lack of link count, user and group ownership, and last modification date.
Real ls:
Fantasy-ls(tm):
Call me crazy, but I think someone needs to stop making up program output.
I compiled this and got it running on my dell laptop, but the nvidia drivers (for the GeForce2 Go 5200) won't compile for 2.6.0-test8. This is probably due to driver API changes. I haven't poked around to see if Nvidia is working on it though.
/pointer
[%- PROCESS life -%]
what programs are need upgrading to support such a change in the kernel type?
eg, I use mandrake 8.2 (still, I dont have the luxury of a highspeed connection or online ordering, nor do I ave those options, and after seeing the horrors of 9.x, I just compile from scratch)
anyways, what would I need upgraded to support this? what directories would I need added, etc?
I could use the multitasking on my poor 433.
yeah, I know I'm behind the times on many things. so I just have to deal with it, make the best of what I have.
2.6.0-test7 was a good 2% faster across the board on file system benchmarks then 2.6.0-test5, lets hope test8 continues that trend.
Benchmarks for both test7, and test8 will be posted on that site within the next week for all those interested in getting the maximum performance out of your Linux box.
Open Source Time and Attendance, Job Costing a
They do have some good food...
PCMCIA and serial devices did not work with HZ=1000. Anyone know if this has been fixed?
Oh please fix this bug before 2.6.0 is released. :-). There's a business model! hehe
I'll send a check for $20 to the developer who does it
I am already using 2.4.22.mm2 with Ingo's O(1) scheduler and mm patches from Andrew Morton. So what other benifits can I expect by upgrading to 2.6?
What's under yellowstone?
How long will it take until the requisite $699 post?
"Sufferin' succotash."
>It's like saying, "I'm not a Cubs fan, so why did the LA Times have their game 7 loss as a front page article?"
Because the LA Times is owned by the Tribune Company, which owns the Chicago Tribune. That's why you get the same signon page (except for the logo) when you try to read an article.
The -test8 changelog is only stuff since -test7. If you're coming from a 2.4 series kernel, the link you want is:
. tx t
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5
In particular, *NOTE THAT YOU NEED NEW 'modutils' PACKAGES*. Failure to update these will mean 'insmod' and friends *will not work*.
is linux's lack of driversupport. i dont have the skills or time to write my own, and if i dont have access to half of my hard drives, because my ide card is unsupported or wifi because the centrino wifi is unsupported you expect me to be happy and use linux anyway? well yeah i do have dual boot on my desktop but i need wifi on the laptop and its only a 40gb drive, not big enough for that.
Some Unix users couldn't care less that there's yet another test release of Linux.
I don't remember seeing any "Solaris 8 kernel revision 23 relased" front page stories, perhaps because they would be very uninteresting, but primarily becuase they wouldn't give a busload of dickless weenies the chance to tell everyone how they just built it on their Gentoo Athlon boxen with the gcc they pulled down from CVS through their iptables firewall. Oh and by the way they're posting with lynx, using screen because they're so leet. And isn't that what Slashdot's all about?
Remove all blank lines. Simple.
Find a job you like and you will never work a day in your life.
Seems that you are doing OK as it stands. Why not wait and see what develops?
So far all the 2.6 kernels have had fully broken support for the radeonfb console. It seems to work fine otherwise, but I am not interested if it means I must have 80x25 consoles.
I didn't notice anything about this in the changelog.
-fb Everything not expressly forbidden is now mandatory.
test4-mm ran for ~70 days uptime fine, I upgrade to test7 and get a kernel panic in 12 hours. And a corrupted reiserfs partition to top it off.
gah
100mbit mirror:
http://eddie.ratm.net/kernel/
.... in the xfsprogs package.
Oh, and there is xfs.fsck but it's a no-op. This
-is- a journaling filesystem you know....
Something I've always noticed about X is that it doesn't seem to "draw" or "paint" my screens as quickly as Windows does. For example if I grab a Window and move it around my screen quickly, X acts like it can't keep up. My CPU usage will shoot to 100%, the hard-drive will often start hammering away, and there will be tracer elements following the Window everywhere. Whereas in Windows (XP or otherwise), the system doesn't even flinch. (And my system isn't exactly slow. 1GB [512x2] of PC3200 Dual Channel RAM, AMD XP2500+, ASUS nForce2 mobo revision 2.0)
So is that a kernel issue, an X issue, both, neither?
Take a look at How to install Andrew Morton's -mm kernel for some links and explanations of the issues that the -mm patchset is addressing.
"free" software is worth what you pay for it.
Many X auto-configuration utilities will detect a graphics accelerator and enable the driver with an option for it to be safe on performance. Some drivers can't be enabled at full performance on a number of graphics accelerator and motherboard combinations. Check your /etc/X11/XF86Config file for your "Device" section for a 'Option "noaccel"' or 'Option "SWcursor"' and remove those lines. There are also many other "Option"(s) settings on drivers that may limit performance. Speaking of performance, why are you allowing XFree86 to be the king of the hill on your graphics accelerator? Go check DirectFB or FBdri to see if you can bump XFree86 off your graphics accelerator and put it on a Framebuffer device so you can benefit from a superior graphics subsystem. I'm not knocking XFree86 or X in general, it does things with telnet and XLib that Win32 users can only dream of. The point of using a Framebuffer driver is to optimize performance of your mostly-used applications; for example, if you have support in DirectFB then you can use DirectFB sub-project DirectFBGL and have openGL or GLX applications render quicker as well anything based on GTK+ will benefit as GTK+ support in DirectFB is native and lets you bypass any X overhead. Alas, the more people think of bypassing X technology then the worse applications can become, in perspective of flexibility and network-transparent graphics rendering. That's why X should always be built into applications, it is better to have flexibility than to have a castrated higher-performing product.
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So let me guess, you run Solaris x86 at home.
No wait, you have a Blade 2000. Riiiight.
I'm waiting for the kernel annouce release that convinces me it's time to upgrade. I like reading about it and monitoring the progress, because I'm hoping I'll be able to make a new shiny hardware shopping list soon.
And if you have a copy of Solaris you probably have a SunSolve account so you don't need to read Slashdot to know when important things are bubbling to the surface.
Christ man. Just stop reading developer/linux articles. You have a preferences page for a reason. Just enjoy UnixWare, mmmkay?
Fuck Beta. Fuck Dice
While I see the need to adapt to kernel changes in the modutils, I found the lack of functionality in the new module-init-tools annoying.
For example, I had set up a line in modules.conf that would automagically load my sound drivers, restore the mixer settings and do some other things - all without the slow alsa init scripts.
Doesn't work anymore. post-install is gone, probeall is gone. Can somebody explain why the modutils were changed so much?
BT download link available from http://www.distributedbandwidth.info/torrentmap/ex plorer.jsp?cat=Lin260.
Any chance of seeing a comparison of Solaris (x86 presumably) on the same hardware.
An HP-UX comparison would also be useful although you couldn't be sure the hardware was equivalent.
-- Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold.
From the DirectFB homepage, modules section, it says it has native support for Matrox upto G550 and nowhere mentions Parhelia support. This does not mean you lack ability to use DirectFB on your Parhelia if it is VESA compliant: from the DirectFB-Readme, provides,
/etc/lilo.conf:
/etc/fb.modes file. By default the first
DirectFB needs a Linux kernel with frame buffer support. Check the
documentation in the kernel tree (/usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/) on
how to enable the frame buffer device for your graphics card.
The generic VESA frame buffer device does not support mode switching
and you will not get hardware acceleration. To make DirectFB work with
veasfb, you should add the following lines to
append="video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr"
'ywrap' enables panning with wraparound.
'mtrr' enables setting caching type for the frame buffer to write-combining.
vga=791
This sets the mode on startup. 791 means 1024x768@16, 788 means 800x600@16.
All VESA Video Modes:
Bits 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 1600x1200
8 769 771 773 775 796
16 785 788 791 794 798
32 786 789 792 795 799
Other frame buffer devices support mode switching. DirectFB will only
support modes listed in your
entry found is used.
There are many known system setups where there is openGL support in DRI and no native 2D support for DirectFB, yet DirectFB can use VESA compatibility and allow applications to use VESA+DRI for accelerated openGL (and even GLX, with a hack to combine XDirectFB and DirectFBGL) in such a way as XFree86 can use the X_VGA16 server. If your Parhelia supports VESA, then you can use DirectFB. I don't know how anyone can simply "try it", due to the variation in Linux environments. Perhaps, try creating a seperate Linux partition and OS and manipulate DirectFB onto it. I use Linux From Scratch on a Alpha 164UX, and as well have available Debian 3.0 and RedHat 7 and GNU/HURD and all three *BSD. I mostly use Linux From Scratch on experimental software because it doesn't have any breakable components (.DEB/.RPM) and LFS is MUCH easier to repair because it is more simple. To begin with, did Matrox build Parhelia's accelerated-openGL driver as a closed-source DRI module? If Matrox used a DRI design, then it should work with DirectFB no problem. Oh and just to remind you, the DirectFB project also implemented its own native X Server, XDirectFB, and it works pretty well and lets you have all your favorite GNOME/KDE/etc X Clients connect to DirectFB just as they did in XFree86 or Xig or MetroLink. If you aren't enthused with XDirectFB, there is nothing stopping anyone from making XFree86 use a framebuffer device and co-exist with DirectFB.
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