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Satellite TV From a Moving Car

An anonymous reader sent us an article about an in-car digital satellite television system. that can stay trained on the satellite even while moving. Of course, Most amusing is all the comments about how TV in cars is for passengers, because as we know, the drivers are too busy talking on their cell phones.

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  1. Now if I could figure out..... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 4, Funny

    Where to mount my Tivo....wait.. will it work with my Tivo? I might miss something on tv while I am talking on my cell phone.

    1. Re:Now if I could figure out..... by jhkoh · · Score: 2, Informative
  2. heh dvd? by rwven · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Kinda reminds me of those DVD players that pop out of the head unit. My friend wants to get one of those so he can watch movies while driving. Kinda scares me to say the least. I think this is somewhat overdoing it. Cars are transportation, not audio/visual entertainment. As if there arent enough distractions already...

    1. Re:heh dvd? by NightSpots · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Cars are transportation, not audio/visual entertainment. As if there arent enough distractions already.

      There's no reason it can't be entertainment for the passengers. It just takes people being personally responsible for once in their lives.

      Anyone with kids knows that travelling is much, much easier if you give them something to do on long trips. DVDs in the headrests so the kids can watch/play from the back seat are a GOOD THING.

      Realistically, these shouldn't be much of a problem. The people who drive while watching will eventually hit something, and hopefully what they hit won't be a person. After that they'll either learn very quickly not to do it again, or go broke repairing everything they keep hitting. Eventually they will either learn not to do it, or they won't be able to afford a satellite dish.

    2. Re:heh dvd? by bpowell423 · · Score: 2, Informative

      hmmm... I think that in most states, it's illegal to have a TV mounted where the driver can see it. There's a reason TVs/DVDs (and now satellite, apparently) are showing up in vehicles... kids. It's a life saver on long trips. Of course, I realize the union of the sets "/.'ers" and "have kids" is rather small...

    3. Re:heh dvd? by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Excuse me but when I've got my kids confined in the car for long periods of time, I'd rather we discuss current events, history, science, and literature than have them zonked out in front of a passive entertainment device. Long car trips is a great time to talk to your kids - they can't get away. Try it out.

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    4. Re:heh dvd? by swestcott · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think most kids get enough TV how about talking to your kids or better yet on long trips I get a good audio book booth kids and parents can enjoy The Harry Potter books are excellent and we have enjoyed them many times we are currently listening to the Series of Unfortunate Events very funny for kids and adults.

  3. I wonder... by SharpFang · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...how well do those work under viaducts, in tunnels, in cities behind big buildings, in high mountains, in forests and mostly everywhere where large part of the sky is obscured.

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    1. Re:I wonder... by hookedup · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was just wondering the same thing in relation to XM Radio, to which i found this:

      XM-Radio is a Satellite Based Radio Broadcast System that operates around 2.3 GHz from two 15,000 watt satellites; one named "ROCK," at 115 Degrees West, the other named "ROLL" at 85.0 Degrees West. The significance of this service and that of Sirius Radio, a similar service, is that these services need to "fill in" the shadows caused by buildings and other structures that may block the satellite signal. To accomplish this, XM-Radio alone will set up about 1,500 high-power terrestrial repeaters. Each market will typically have dual repeaters at 2337.485 MHz and 2340.015 MHz. A hefty buffer is an integral part of each receiver, and is very practical when going through tunnels.

      Using a buffer of sorts for the signal would definitely deal with this issue. As for XM using 1,500 repeaters, i'm not really sure if this would be done for TV signals also.

  4. If you can do it in airplanes... by SamDrake · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...then I guess you can do it in an SUV. I'm always amazed by the system that JetBlue uses, which must be similar to this one - JetBlue has DirecTV onboard, and their antenna system tracks the satellite during most manoeuvers. Only when the plane goes into a really steep bank during final approach will the sat go out for a few seconds.

  5. How about some conversation by jwjcmw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "It's like you don't even have them. You can baby-sit and drive at the same time"

    Isn't it great that we don't have to pay attention to our children anymore in the car just like we don't pay attention to them at home. Why would we need to when the TV/computer/video game is there to "baby-sit" them? We can plug them in at any time...they don't talk to us about any of their inane, childish ideas. We can blissfully act like we are still freewheeling non-parents going off on some big adventure than like the haggard parents we really are who have been forced to "care" for these inferior beings.

    I have three of those annoying little brats, ages 3,5, and 7. I know how blissful a moment to yourself is, and how seductive it is to plug them in and tune them out.

    But you really need to remember that they will be getting their values/ambitions from whatever is raising them. I think most people would not want to think that they are basically raising their children to be ignorant, negative consumers, but they need to watch the shows their children watch, and pay close attention to the advertising that comes along with those "children's" shows.

    As fast as the world goes today, being in the car for a while might be one of the few times that a family can actually talk to each other for an extended period of time. Listen to those children, don't tune them out.

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  6. Re:Cell phones by ePhil_One · · Score: 3, Funny
    Look, it's obvious that cell phones are distracting too, but does ANYONE question that it must be more dangerous for a driver to be watching television vs talking on a phone ?

    Personally, I think having kids in the car is far more distracting than cell phones. And from experience, I've been hit by a woman driving on the shoulder fighting with her kids, but I've never been hit by someone talking on their cell phone.

    Plus, think of the benefits of banning children from cars. Its healthier for them (It will cut way back on the number of children killed in car accidents), Parents will have a hard time getting kids to movies and nice restaurants where they can annoy me, and it will improve the resale value of the cars since there will be far fewer juice stains on the back seats.

    Everybody wins.

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  7. Re:ROAD TRIP! by beady · · Score: 5, Funny

    Will be pretty sweet when you can hack this, and send signals of your band performing live to the big media mogul who just happens to be travelling through town... of course you may need to bounce it off a few satellites on the way... it all seems too easy!

  8. Bad idea because I was by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 4, Funny
    It is a bad idea. I was rear-ended by this woman on a cell phone who was too busy talking. It nocked my laptop off the front seat, interrupted my IRC chat and incomming fax and landed on the dinner I was cooking on the floor of the front seat.


    Can't these people pay attention and not do anything else while driving. I now have to get a new laptop for the car. Jeeeezzz.

  9. Old news by djupedal · · Score: 2, Funny

    We've had this in South Korea (SkyLife) for over a year....yawn. Once again, you guys assume it doesn't count if it's not in your backyard.

    Gives you something to watch while sitting in the routine 10 kilometer jam.

  10. they forgot to mention "Phased Array" by skelley · · Score: 2, Funny

    My understanding is that the "260 antenna elements that help draw in the signal" is basically a small fairly cheap phased array antenna system. You know, like on an Aegis cruiser. So with the proper emitter and a Beowulf like cluster of TracVisions ........

  11. Spoiler warning? by eMartin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Of course, Most amusing is all the comments about how TV in cars is for passengers, because as we know, the drivers are too busy talking on their cell phones.

    Seriously, what's the deal with giving away the best part of the article without a spoiler warning?

  12. TV in a car? by Mullen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With hundreds of channels of entertainment, from the Disney Channel to HBO, to keep them occupied, they're silent. "It's like you don't even have them. You can baby-sit and drive at the same time,'' Montag said.

    Am I the only America left that thinks this is gross? I pulled up next to a Lincoln Navigator, the other day, that had TWO flat panel screens in it and they were both on watching TV. Now, this seems like a great idea to keep the kids nice and quite, but how does a kid see the world while on a road trip? If I am going to haul the kids and wife off to a National or State Park, they are to be looking out the windows and not watching DVD movie or some Cartoon. I can't imagine how this is good for America's kids. Should we just surrender to the terrorists now since the future generations will have a attention span to short to track Al-Qaeda down?

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  13. on cell phones in cars by Evil+Willow · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I am hard pressed to see the difference between talking on a cell phone and talking with passengers in the vehicle. Watching how people tend to interact, I'm imagining someone swiveling all over the seat while talking to several people in the car. I am also hard pressed to see the differecnce in someone dialing a number and changing the radio station, or searching for a CD.


    Yes, cell phones can be a distraction, but are they any more of a distraction than the many, many things people do in their cars? I watch people read the paper across the steering wheel, I watch them put on makeup, I watch them eat entire meals, I even watch them search around the backseat of their cars - All while driving. If you take a hard look at what a lot of people do in their cars, cell phones are by far the least of the problem.


    There are a lot of places people dont need to be talking on their cell phones - Movie Theaters comes to mind as a prime example. Because of this I believe its become quite the trend to frown upon seeing anyone on a cell phone any time. The reality is they do have a place and they are here to stay - get used to it.

  14. Re:I wonder...- Works OK in most areas by RoundSparrow · · Score: 3, Informative

    These are pretty common on RV's these days. I full time in a 1987 Bluebird Wanderlodge bus (both mobile office and home).

    We installed a Tracstar SV360 9 months ago, one of the low-profile ones. This is supposed to be one of the better units.

    They work ok... yes, signal skips under bridges.

    I5 in southern Oregon is pretty much useless with mountain and tall trees next to the highway.

    DirecTV requires you to point "toward Texas" for the bird, so northern states are much worse. And these dishes tend to be smaller, so clounds can hurt you too. Seattle is not a good place for this... steep angle to aim and clouds consipire against you.

    I use the in-motion dish for "instant on" more than watching while cruising. It is nice to pull over at a rest area and be able to turn on the news for a few minutes.... since the in-motion always has signal lock, no need to wait to align like the lesser dishes.

    When camping in wooded areas, you pretty much decide what your priority is. Nice woodeed spot or clear TV reception? Low tech is often better for camping. 100' of coax and a regular dish on a tripod is much better for camping... as you can always carry the dish out into a clear area. So having a fancy expensive in-motion system isn't always the best... it depends on your needs.

  15. How fast can you go and have it still work by pozzy1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I want to know if Im cruizing along at 80mph will it still work. I saw this in popsci I think a long time ago and it had a top speed of 45mph. I didnt see them even address this at all. Im not going to slow down so I can watch tv.

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  16. laws and such by EvilOpie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know where the submitter of the article lives, but in New York it's illegal for a TV to be placed in a vechile within view of the driver. Then again it's also illegal for a driver here to use a cell phone that's not hands free, and we know how well people obey that law.

    Ah well, this is kinda a neat idea regardless. I mean, satellite TV for vechiles is not exactly a new idea, though before now they've been traditionally reserved for RV's and such, but this may be the first practical application for smaller cars.

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  17. Ah, the new generation of parenting by mblase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With hundreds of channels of entertainment, from the Disney Channel to HBO, to keep them occupied, they're silent. "It's like you don't even have them. You can baby-sit and drive at the same time,'' Montag said.

    I have my own kids -- four of them now. I grew up in a family of five kids, two parents. So I know full well what it's like to have them arguing, complaining, fighting, and griping all through a long car trip.

    But I still maintain that drugging them into submission with non-stop video signals is not the best solution. It's easy enough to get into that habit at home -- sit the kids in front of the TV after school until dinner, then after dinner until bedtime. They're entertained, you have peace and quiet. Then when they get older, you wonder why they're thirty pounds overweight before they've hit puberty and never do their homework at night.

    TV, either in the car or at home, should be a privilege. Give it to them when they've earned it, and turn it off when it's done. I prefer a DVD player to satellite TV, because (1) there's no commercials, (2) I can control what they do and don't watch, and (3) when the show's over, it's over--there's nothing "coming up next" unless I say there is.

    Our kids would be overjoyed to have satellite TV in the car for our periodic 3-hour drives to my in-laws. Instead we give them toys, books, children's music, and Magna-Doodle drawing boards. Works just as well, the noise is minimal, and their brains actually continue to develop instead of just rotting away inside their skulls.

  18. Re:Simple-Road Show. - PBS by RoundSparrow · · Score: 2, Interesting

    PBS is the most problem channel for 'on the road'! If you are a full time RVer or trucker, you can get Distant Network service that allows you special options.

    I guess the big problem is sports. People with RV's would go to sports games and have tailgate parties in the parking lot of the stadium during regional blackouts!

    You have to sign a special waiver to get the local network feeds when mobile. DirecTV does directional broadcast of 'local channels' only to the regions they are required. Once you drive out of your region, you can't get your local channels.

    They let you get around this by getting ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX from both New York and Los Angeles. Problem is that you can't get UPN / WB / PBS when you are outside your "home area". When you full time in a RV (no house, just live in your RV) - this is a pain - as your home area is just where you get your mail sent, not really where you are!

    PBS is the most problem. They really want those local pledge drives, so they won't let you have the "national PBS feed" unless your "home area" is in a place where there is no local PBS channel on DirecTV. So 90% of the locations you can't get the national PBS feed if you have the Distant Network package.

  19. The modern family by swb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is an invention of the 18th century. Until that time the rich simply forked their children over to governnesses, teachers, etc and forgot about them until their kids challenged them for their holdings.

    Everyone else either worked as many offspring as they could sire in the fields, sold them off as indentured servants, or, if they didn't need or want more, comitted post-natal abortion.

    The idea that one actually had some involvement with their kids is historically kind of new. The idea of "childhood" itself is even newer; it used to only last until you were old enough to do meaningful work. The fact that it now lasts until the mid-20s or the end of college is a very new phenomenon and probably as unhealthy as selling them off as servants when they turned 10.

    1. Re:The modern family by Jahf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Amazing how you can aspire to take one culture's historically bad sense of family and assume that it applied to everyone from that time. And even then your examples are acutely pessimistic. Are you trying to tell me that before 1701 there wasn't a single father or mother in western society who paid attention to their children and loved them for their own sake instead of for some ascribed selfish desire?

      Revisionist at best. And all of the things you mention as having existing before the 18th century still exist today in pretty much all cultures to some degree. Those selfish nasty actions don't invalidate the love that many families share.

      I see your point, but it's a very very small point that mostly illustrates why I'm glad my viewpoint of the world isn't any more cynical than it is. Your view is quite depressing.

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